When We Accidentally Checked Into a Twilight Zone, Part 1 with Theresa!

What began as a routine trip to Chicago for a hair convention transformed into something far more unsettling when Theresa and Melissa checked into the Embassy Suites by Hilton Chicago O'Hare in Rosemont. Neither was prepared for the bizarre reality distortion they were about to experience.

The hotel itself defied logic—a beautiful modern lobby connected to hallways that mirrored "The Shining," complete with identical carpeting and an eerie silence that shouldn't have been possible. Despite being steps away from a bustling hotel bar, the sound would completely disappear once you turned the corner. How could a packed hotel during a major convention remain so eerily quiet in its corridors?

Most disturbing was the unexplainable time loss. Sitting in their room for what felt like minutes, they'd suddenly discover hours had vanished. Plans to visit a nearby cemetery repeatedly fell through as time seemed to slip away without explanation. The hotel staff moved through the building like automatons—expressionless, never greeting guests, staring straight ahead as if not fully present in reality.

Theresa repeatedly spotted a mysterious older man with a bandage over his eye walking back and forth outside the hotel, but strangely, Melissa never saw him despite being right there. The elevators transported them to what felt like different dimensions of the building, with people appearing and vanishing in ways that defied explanation. Both women experienced personality changes—becoming irritable, confused, and mentally foggy throughout the stay.

Upon returning home and researching, they discovered the hotel is reportedly one of Chicago's most haunted locations, with numerous guests reporting similar phenomena—time distortions, strange figures, and a sense of disorientation. Was it a paranormal experience, a glitch in reality, or something else entirely? The mystery remains unsolved, but the experience has left an indelible mark on both women.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everyone.
It's your host, melissa, atStrange, strange Beyond Insane
Podcast, and tonight I haveanother guest on, teresa.
She's been on quite a few timeswith her kids and we're going
to talk about one of our recentstays in Chicago.
Alright, teresa, take it away.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hey everyone.
Okay, so I don't even knowwhere to start.
To be honest with you, so muchhappened in such a short time.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
I just want to start with her saying I found this
bad-ass hotel.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Oh, that's how you want me to start.
Okay, I found this bad-asshotel.
Honestly, I didn't know mydaughter's in a hair.
She was in a hair show causeshe's in cosmetology.
So to make up hours for a class, she to go to Chicago.
So I, without doing anyresearch, picked the closest
hotel that I could possibly findand I booked it.
So we took this trip to Chicagowithout knowing anything about

(00:54):
this hotel, without even knowingthe area at all, and we get
there and that's when just thecrazy shit started happening
this was Rosemont Chicago, right?

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yes, okay, rosemont Chicago, and it's like in the
airport part.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah, there's nothing but like hotels and restaurants
around that area.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
The DoorDash experience.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Oh God, that DoorDash experience that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
It put me in the fucking spiral, a downward
spiral.
Like that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
it put me in the fucking spiral, a downward
spiral, but that's not even theweirdest thing that happened
that weekend, though no, no, ofcourse my fat ass is thinking
about pizza.
So the pizza yeah, the chicagopizza, and it unfortunately
wasn't even that good okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Where do you want to start at?

Speaker 2 (01:45):
well, I'm trying to think back to the beginning.
So much stuff happened in thatlittle bit of time.
Okay, we originally wanted togo see that clown cemetery, what
was it called?

Speaker 1 (01:53):
again, oh shit, I have to pull it up, but it's
where all the clowns died in theearly 1900s, right?

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah well, that was supposed to be the spookiest
part of the weekend, but thatreally wasn't the spookiest part
of our weekend.
The whole experience was likefucking stepping into the
twilight zone.
I felt like we time warped, wejust time lapsed and it was just
the whole thing was off, like Ifelt off you and I got bitchy
with each other.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
It was just really really fucking weird the whole
entire time we would like laughafter, and then we'd be like one
of us would be like what timeis it?
And then I feel, or you'd be,like it's already three o'clock.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
I'm like wait, it was just 10 o'clock and you're like
, when I went online I looked upsome of the reviews and stuff
and everybody seemed to bebitching about these elevators,
how slow they were, how just howjust old and outdated they were
.
For one, I absolutely love thishotel.
Walking in there, I'm like, wow, this is nice, it is yeah, it
was nice.
So the elevators were weird.

(02:52):
But when you stepped on thoseelevators it was like you're
walking into a time warp.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yes, okay.
So let's start off with thefront, which is not really the
front of the hotel.
It is beautiful, gorgeous.
And then to the left is likethis newer urban restaurant,
which doesn't make sense, okay.
And then to the right is a longgated hallway that is actually

(03:18):
the main entrance that nobody,nobody fucking hangs out in.
But, yeah, it is completelydifferent from the hotel with
some creepy ass statue.
Okay, you guys, who's everwatched the show archive 81 on
Netflix?
It's, I'm Teresa's going towatch it tonight.

(03:39):
This, this hotel, is that fromthat fucking show, and I can't
say too much.
I don't want to ruin it for her, but I'm waiting to get a call
tomorrow.
I'll be like holy shit, anyways.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Oh no, I'm texting you tonight.
After I watch it I'd be like,oh my God.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
I think I'm going to start watching it again too.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Okay, so, first off, we get to the hotel and we walk
in there.
Well, I walked in there.
Melissa went and parked thetruck because she had to park in
a parking garage like acrossthe street.
So me and my daughter went upto the hotel room and Melissa
decides she's going to come backin and she goes down this
different hallway.
She calls me freaking out.
She's like oh my God, I think Ijust walked in the Shining.

(04:20):
I'm in the Shining, I'm likewhat are you talking about?
And she started facetiming me.
There's this whole separatehallway that literally looks
like the movie the shining samecarpet, same vibes, everything.
And it was so weird because ifyou walk down this hallway,
there's like nobody.
Now, mind you, there's a hairshow going on.
The whole entire hotel waspacked out.
There's nobody in this hallway,which I thought was just
bizarre, like I couldn't getover it.
And I kept telling melissa I'mlike how come there's nobody

(04:41):
down this hallway?
Which I thought was justbizarre, Like I couldn't get
over it.
And I kept telling Melissa I'mlike how come there's nobody
down this hallway?
So we decided to do some ghosthunting later on in the night in
this hallway because there'snobody there.
But if you walk down thishallway and not even 30 feet no,
not even what 10 feet Aroundthe corner is this bar where all
these people go to hang out,because there's nothing around

(05:03):
there but hotels and restaurants.
So a lot of people are going tothat hotel just to go to that
bar alone.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
And it wasn't even like a big bar.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
No, but it was loud and it was crazy.
There was tons of people inthat entryway, remember, we're
getting upset.
We're like damn, there's somany people here, man.
And then you walk around thehall just not even a whole
second later and it's completelydead silence.
Nobody hung out, nobody, but itwas silent.
You couldn't even hear thepeople at the bar.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
No, it was like a whole different.
Like time we're in, like we, itwas a time loop.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Not to sound like one of those weird psycho people,
but I swear it's like everybodywas just dead there.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yes, yes, yes, okay, now tell them about the people
at the counter each day.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Oh, they're wonderful peachy personalities.
Oh, they were so welcoming andinviting.
They had no personalities.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
They didn't even say hi by hey, how's your state?
It's like they were dead, likethey literally were just staring
out the front door, like thefront doors, like they didn't
even like I don't even thinkthey flinched, or like really
had any facial expressions.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
it was very weird no, and that's the only hotel that
I've ever stayed in and I knowyou travel more than I do that
you've ever stayed in, wherethey don't greet you, they don't
smile, they don't even look.
No, they don't even, weren'teven looking at you.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
they don't smile, they don't even look.
No, they don't even.
These people aren't evenlooking at you.
They don't even like help youwith like the carts, like
there's.
I'm like what did I say to her?
I go, well, where are all thecarts at you know?
And she's like, well,whatever's down here is down
here.
If not, then you don't get acart.
I'm like what?

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, I kept getting lost in the hallway.
I know it sounds funny, but Iwas getting pissed Like which
way do I fucking turn?
And all the hallways are thesame.
And that's the thing too for apacked out hotel.
You never, ever, heard anybodyin that hotel or seen anybody in
the hallways.
Like every time I walked downthere it was completely vacant.
There was nobody around.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Okay, now we get up to the hotel, like the actual
hotel rooms, it was a completelydifferent atmosphere.
Like this hotel does not makesense.
It's like they pieced all theselike pieces together.
It's like the atmosphere is sowacky wonky.
So I sent a picture to Paul andhe's like, oh, no shit, that

(07:25):
looks like the barracks.
And I'm like, oh my God, itdoes look like the barracks in
the military Like.
It looked like we were in likea villa like and we were outside
, but we weren't outside.
It's so weird.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
And I sent a picture to my son and he's like mom,
that looks like a video game.
I'm like what are you talkingabout?
He's like no, I'm serious.
And then he sent me thatpicture back.
Remember I showed you it lookedlike that fucking video game.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Oh yeah, and that's like a creepy game.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, it is, and he's like, that creeps me out.
Well, shit, now that creeps meout too.
Thanks, son.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yeah, and the elevators.
But this hotel was like huge,it was like had all these
different wings, but theelevators were from like the
1980s and they were like reallyghetto and like broken down and
it actually.
No, I think they were from likethe 60s.
But Teresa looked up when itwas built and you said it was
built in the 80s, right right,but see, I think it was rebuilt.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
It had to have been, but there's not so much
information on that hotel.
But I did go onto some websiteand I wish I would have
screenshotted it because I can'tfind it now where it did say
that was rated like the secondmost haunted hotel.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
We had no idea.
She had no idea, no clue.
She did not like try to find ahaunted place.
We just wanted to be close toher daughter, natalie.
Try to find a haunted place.
We just wanted to be close toher daughter, natalie.
Obviously, natalie was going tohave to walk back and forth to
the Donald.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
What is it called Donald Staples Center?
I don't even honestly rememberLike I'm trying to think back on
all these details and it's likefoggy to me.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Okay.
So as a hairstylist, I'm goingto step in and say this.
I don't know if it's the timethat we're in, whatever.
Okay For one.
When I used to go to hear showswhen I, you know, a long time
ago, the dinosaur ages umeverybody was like dressed up.
You know we would drink wellback then.
You know we were poor, becauseI mean people, the kids now they

(09:20):
make like $20 an hour.
Um, we would get like box wine.
You know we weren't of age, Imean I was 18 when I started
going to beauty school.
So we, like you were drunk, youwere stoned, you looked good,
you were woohoo, hoorah, Likehair show.
These bitches were dead, I'mtelling you.
I kept telling Teresa.

(09:40):
I'm like why does their hairnot look good?
Like I felt like I was infucking 2002.
Like people had like KellyClarkson hair when she was on
American Idol.
I was like what is happening?
Like nobody had like good hair.
No one was like smiling, likepeople were just eating and like
sitting there in like thecafeteria part and like they

(10:00):
were walking across the streetback and forth.
Nobody like really seemed likethey had a good fucking time and
nobody was like dressed to likebe at a hair show.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
No, that is weird.
The whole experience was weird.
Maybe we did lapse back to 2002.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
It was like it was tripping me out, and then Teresa
kept seeing this guy oh, yeah,that guy, okay.
Then Teresa kept seeing thisguy oh, yeah, that guy.
Okay, tell them about this guy,because I never once seen this
guy.
And Teresa says that she saidit to me like two or three times
, and I don't even remember hertalking about this yeah, what he
stood out to me is this weird,because, okay, nowadays you

(10:39):
don't see people wearing trenchcoats anymore.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
You just don't see that.
I mean, I don't, I don't knowabout anybody else, but that's
kind of random.
So this man, and what caught myattention is okay.
The first time I saw him I wasstanding outside.
I was actually waiting for youto go get the truck.
We had all of our stuff on thatlittle push cart thing and I
was waiting for you and you weregoing to go back and pick me up
.
He walked past me and I'm like,oh, I'm sorry, because I
thought I was in his way and hedidn't say nothing to me.

(11:03):
He just kept going.
His hands were balled up on hisside and he had a bandage over
his eye.
He was an older man, he hadglasses on, but the bandage
thing caught my eye too.
I'm like, okay, that's weird.
And he just walked right pastit and say a word Okay, fine, so

(11:26):
I'm standing there to go to theparking garage, get the truck
and come back and get me.
He must have walked back andforth about five different times
.
I'm like, what the hell?
So then we left and we went tothat little antique store and
then we had to come back to pickmy daughter up from the show
and we pulled up in front of thehotel to pick her up and well,
that's when you got that fuckingdoor dash dude.

(11:47):
Your truck was parked one way,the door dash guy was parked
right in front of your truck theother way.
And that guy came walking outagain and walked right in front
of the truck and I'm likeMelissa, melissa, there's that
guy and you're like what guy?
And then later on I brought itback up to you and you're like

(12:08):
what guy?
And then later on I brought itback up to you.
Know, like an incidental guy.
You're like, I don't evenremember you saying that to me.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Well, yeah, it was probably because you're about
ready to rip that dude's headoff because he was being an
asshole well, he was like madthat I parked there, but I was
trying to leave the outside, theleft part, open for, like the
shuttle buses, because it wasreally only only one way yeah,
but that wasn't even theweirdest fucking uber driver
experience there either.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
We ordered this chicago style pizza.
Tell sir, tell him the storyabout that okay.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
So we ordered this fucking pizza and I'm like, how
does that sound?
Like like you want to get likereal chicago pizza?
And she's like sure, whatever.
So I knew like right, when Iordered it it was there was like
an issue because it was takingforever.
And then all of a sudden Ifinally get this message that it
was delivered.
And I'm like no the fuck, itwasn't.
And I specifically put the roomnumber.

(12:57):
Now, if he didn't want to walkup to the room, that's fine, but
you at least have to let usknow where the fuck you put the
pizza.
So I'm like, no, it was notdelivered.
So I call him, he bitch buttonsme.
I call him again, he bitchbuttons me.
I call again and he picks upreally quick and he was like
what did I tell you?
He said like stop fuckingcalling me or something.

(13:19):
Yeah, it was fucking rude.
And then he hung up.
So I text him.
I'm like, excuse you, like ourpizza was not delivered.
He's up.
So I text him.
I'm like, excuse you, like ourpizza was not delivered.
He's like it's in the lobby andI'm like, oh, fuck you.
And I was already getting pissedlike going down the elevator
Cause I'm like I knowsomething's wrong with this.
I I walk up, I'm looking at theperson at the desk and I have

(13:42):
my handout Like what the fuck?
And they're just looking at me.
So I go and I grab this pizzawhile the box feels really wet
and I'm like, oh my god.
So Chicago style pizza isreally deep and it's like
obviously very wet becausethere's it's deep with like a
lot of sauce.
And as soon as I felt thewetness, I'm like that's fucking
sauce.
So this guy literally likethrew the pizza around, and

(14:03):
anybody knows, delivering pizzalike you cannot throw it around,
it has to be flat.
Oh, I was so pissed, dude, Ibrought it up and I fucking
slammed it on the table.
I'm like, no, that's fuckingshit, fucking $60.
What a fucking asshole.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Okay, well, I for one was having six kids and I don't
drive it.
I order a lot of fuckingDoorDash and I don't know if
it's a Michigan thing or if it'sdifferent Chicago, but again,
you know not to sound like abroken record that hotel was
packed out, so those Uberdrivers were going back or not?
Uber drivers I'm sorry,doordashers were going back and
forth constantly.
Okay, so we decided we werestill hungry because we ate that

(14:43):
pizza and it tasted like shit.
Neither one of us felt verygood, so we ordered braising
canes and it's.
It was.
At what time?
Was it 12 o'clock?
I mean it was pretty late whenwe ordered that food.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
And it was the same guy, yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
And I told you like not even seconds before that I'm
like what if we get that sameasshole again?
And we're laughing about it,you know laying in the bed
laughing about it.
And then you're like, oh my God, I go what you go, it's the
same fucking guy.
I'm like no way, there is nofucking way.
What are the chances of thatBusy Chicago, tons and tons of
Uber drive.
I keep saying fucking Uber Go.
And then we get the same damnguy, the one that bitch-buttoned

(15:25):
you and told you to basicallyfuck off, who threw our food.
Here's this guy coming againwith the food.
I'm like, oh my God, you've gotto be fucking kidding me.
But he was super nice.
Yeah, he was really nice.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
I think he was afraid of you when he got out of the
car.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, I'd be afraid of you, and our food was fine,
none yeah, he was all nice, hegot out, he handed it right to
you.
He's like melissa, all happy.
I know I'm like oh hey, thankyou.
Are you sure that's the sameguy?
Nope, same guy.
Oh, my god, that was weird.
Just the whole experience wasso weird.
And then you and I went to thatone little lounge room I don't
think we were supposed to be inwhere you took the mints from

(16:03):
yeah, I just got done eatingthose too, like a week ago.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Oh, you're finally out, huh?
Yeah, I'm finally fresh out ofthe restaurant.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
We should have just went back and took them all.
There's no reason not to no,but even thinking about it now,
like everything didn't makesense, we would.
It was like the energy was justdrained.
I know I was aggravated andjust the energy was just so off
the whole entire weekend.
And what was only what?
Two days really.

(16:30):
It felt like a week.
Just.
There were so many differentpersonalities and so much shit
going on there.
It was just.
It was crazy.
We made plans to go out to thecemetery I don't know how many
times, but for some reason wedidn't end up going Like
something would would happen.
But we spent a lot of time inthat room, but it was like we're
sitting there and the nextthing you know, hours had gone
by.
I'm like, wait a minute, thatwas only like 10 minutes ago

(16:52):
yeah, that was a crazy.
That was crazy, but I can'trecall for that time either,
like, what did we do in thattime?

Speaker 1 (16:59):
no, it was so.
Okay, you guys this.
The hotel we stayed at wasEmbassy Suites by Hilton Chicago
O'Hare, rosemont.
Um, a lot of bad reviews.
Um, wow, um, this is a mustmiss, even if you're staying at

(17:19):
a hotel for a convention.
The front desk is friendly, butnothing after that.
Nothing is good.
Rude staff everywhere.
Even the bartender at thereception hour was rude.
Um, it goes on and on.
Wow, you found reviews.
Huh yeah, someone says greatvalue for the price.
Who cares if the front desklady is disinterested?

(17:40):
You'd probably be disinterestedtoo if this was your job.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Damn See the staff.
Staff was even friendly to them, Nope.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
This guy is saying the hotel itself was extremely
disappointing.
This place clearly has not beenupdated in decades.
The elevator is so painfullyslow, which becomes a major
issue when traveling with alarger group.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Oh my god, there's so many umbut what about that statue?

Speaker 2 (18:15):
though?
It never explained that statuein the middle of the hallway,
that was creepy yeah, and Idon't know what the fuck that is
.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
No, no clue.
Embassy Suites Okay, let melook this up.
Embassy Suites by HiltonChicago.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
But you want to know what's weird, too is I have so
much to say about this hotel,but now that it's my time to say
it, I can't even think like I'mdrawing a blank.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
That's how you said you felt when we were there.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, I'm trying to put these pieces together and
it's like I can't even remember.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
But I know as soon as I get off the phone with you.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
I'm going to be like, oh yeah, that happened and that
happened.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
But right now it's just like I can't even think
about it.
Okay, I'm trying to find thestatue and if they, and it's
kind of like hidden.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
So if they don't show it, it's you guys.
It's the weirdest it's just so.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
No, it's going into that weird hallway.
Oh, here's the hallway.
Okay, do they show the statue?
Oh, it's fucking got shining.
It's even got the red doors.
Oh yeah, it was freaky.
No statue, no statue.
I don't think they're gonnashow it.
There's just something weirdabout this statue.

(19:36):
It's almost like like a buddhaslash.
I don't know, it just looks,but it looks very like old and
that somebody like auctioned it.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
It like should not be there no, and it don't make
sense either in the placement ofit.
It's just so random like Iwould never think in a million
years I'd walk into a hotel andsee a creepy ass statue just
standing there like that here itis okay, but they don't show it
up close.
God, it's so cruel.
Does it explain what it is?

Speaker 1 (20:12):
No, and the fucked up thing is that, remember I took
a picture of the plaque, yeah,and it's blurred, it's blurred.
I can't even you can't evenread the plaque from my photo,
yeah.
And then like, yeah, I don'tknow, and then these African
ladies were talking to Teresa inthe elevator and they were
telling you about, like, someweird convention they had that

(20:34):
day.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Remember she was from africa yeah, but that's all I
remember.
I don't even remember theconversation that we were and I
had but then I was like, oh, isit a convention you're having?

Speaker 1 (20:46):
and she's like um, she said something like run on,
run on, don't, don't be too nosy.
And I'm like what Dude?
It's one of those fuckinghotels where shit goes on Like
there's Colts and stuff.
There.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
I'm telling you, there has to be.
Yeah, because I don't know thewhole entire feeling was just
off the whole entire time and Idon't know why.
And it was such short stay that, thinking about it now, I
literally cannot rememberanything and I'm kind of pissed
at myself because I shouldremember this and we're doing
the podcast on it and I'm justlike drawing blanks right and
left here and we've talked aboutthis I don't know how many

(21:22):
times it just the hotel itselfdoes not make any sense.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
It was like a maze.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
It was really hard to like you would come down an
elevator a different way and notknow what part of the lobby you
were in.
It was just weird shit.
I couldn't even find my wayback to the room in the fucking
lobby.
No, I had to keep.
I got lost.
Every time I'm like where thehell am I going?
You're like come on now.
I'm like what the fuck?
I don't know.
And I've walked that hallwayhow many times since I was there
I could not find my way back wecould not like I don't
understand how we lost so muchtime sitting in that room.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
And then we'd be like , well, why are we not leaving?
And then I would get pissylater and be like, well, why
aren't we doing anything that wewanted to do?
And you'd be like I don't know,why didn't we.
And I'm like I don't know whydidn't we.
And you're like what time is it?
And I don't know Like what timeis it be doing all that time?
I don't know.
That's what I'm saying.
It's weird.

(22:12):
Like we were getting like pissyand then we were like both
confused and then you would gettired.
And I mean I would get tiredfirst and you said you'd kind of
get tired and then, like youwere like struggling to go to
the shower that one night.
I'm like just get in the shower.
You're like I don't know, Idon't, I feel weird.
I'm like okay, because yourstomach was weird.
And then you said I was talking.

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And then I fell asleep and Isaid I was.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Oh yeah, a big conversation and then you're out
.
One time I was talking aboutpistachios, another time you're
telling me you're manifesting apuppy.
It was just weird.
And then I'm sitting theretalking, answering you back, and
you're over there sleeping.
I'm like Melissa, melissa, areyou?

Speaker 1 (22:51):
okay, remember the last time that happened with you
on your porch.
I went somewhere else, but Idon't remember astral projecting
there.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
So if I did I don't remember it yeah, but that's the
weirdest thing in the world.
Why the hell would you talkabout manifesting a puppy, I
don't know.
Right before you fall asleep,too, like you're like, no, I
don't need nothing right now,blah, blah, blah.
And the next thing you know,you're like I'm manifesting a
puppy.
I'm like, oh okay, all right.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
And then I girl in the window.
I yeah, oh yeah, it's like thatwas another thing, like that
was weird.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Tell them about the girl in the window across at the
hotel well, I work by thewindow because you know, I look
in the hotels next to us just tosee, you know, and there's this
chick staring at me.
So I'm staring at her back,we're doing the stare down.
I'm like, oh, she's probablynot even looking at me, she
can't see me.
So I start waving at this chick.
You know I'm waving, waving,waving.
She's just standing therestaring at me and then you walk

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up and then she closed thecurtains real fast.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
I know, it's always me.
They're like oh, that's thedevil.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
No, but that was weird because she and for the
rest of the time I didn't seeanybody else in any of those
hotel rooms and I kept lookingto because I want to see if she
opened her curtains back up.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
I'm like I want to see if this bitch is back, but
it was weird.
She looked like a nurse hotellady from like the 1960s.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, everybody there looked like they were in a
different time zone.
Nobody looked like they werefrom the freaking nobody, not
one person that I seen, not thehotel staff.
The only person I actuallyliked was the maid she was nice.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah, she was really nice.
She like, liked talking to ustoo yeah, but that was the only
person.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Even when she came in , she's like, oh hi, how excited
to see us.
It's like she knew who we were,but everybody else there was
just so weird and random.
I don't know.
I'd like to go back there, butat the same time I really don't
want to.
But just, we were in the midst.
I mean, we didn't even have togo investigating anywhere else.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
We were in the fucking twilight zone in that
hotel so they're saying um, okay, I stayed in room 1522 and it's
definitely, without a doubt,haunted.
I'm an open minded skeptic andI never had a paranormal
encounter until I stayed here.
Oh, really, um, on reddit, thisperson saying stayed there a

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few years back with my kid andwe hated it.
Creepy as fuck, our door keptmaking the key card noise all
night.
Wow, um, embassy Suites by Hill, chicago, o'hare, rosemont, by
a team Haunted, or, I'm sorry,midwest Haunters.
Um, so that was that.
It was definitely haunted.

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I stayed there after a shorttrip to Chicago for a trade show
.
I had a 6 am flight, so Ipicked this hotel.
It was two minutes from theairport.
Never again.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
I wonder if they saw anything or heard anything like
remember when we kept sitting,we were in the hallway and you
had the spirit box going and thesecurity guard kept walking
back and forth.
He didn't say that one word tous?
No, but he was kind of like, Ithink he wanted to know, like,
what we were getting yeah,because I'm sure there's other
people that stayed there thatwanted to investigate too, like
if you're into the paranormaland you walk in there and you

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feel it okay.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
so a user is reported on here saying that they had a
haunted experience, including acold phantom touching and
phantom voices.
Another recounted a creepyexperience at a chic Chicago
hotel with odd knocking and keycard noises leading them to
believe it was haunted.
A third person described a darkfigure they saw in a Chicago

(26:42):
hotel room, but they're notsaying which hotel it is.
Yeah, all I have to say is whenyou watch this show, you are
literally going to be like whatthe fuck?
You made me go to this place?
I'm like bitch, you picked it.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Right, but I mean, that's the first time Well, I
don't get out much, you know andthis was like really, really
random, and it was last minute.
She asked me to go with her andI'm like, yeah, okay, so I just
booked the first hotel.
That was the closest.
I never even researched it ornothing.
Usually I like to do a littlebit of research and find out
what's around there.
But I was just like, yeah,whatever, this one's fine and
that was it.
But we just went in there notknowing anything.

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And it's just weird too,because usually I always
research, no matter what,walking in there didn't know
nothing, didn't know nothingaround there.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
And we there didn't know nothing, nothing around
there, and I thought we pickedthe haunted hotel, not even on
purpose.
Okay, so it's saying that itwas built in 1987 and it was
renovated in 2016.
This archive 81 is from the 80s.
I'm telling you this is, oh, mygod, what if they like, made
this show about this hotel, holyshit well, if they renovated
that hotel, why is that onehallway still the same?
Yeah, they said they renovated.
It's old as hell.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
It said they renovated in 2016 they must not
even touch that part, that.
But what I found was so weird,though.
Like I said, that bar was rightthere and it was live, like the
music was playing.
There was people laughing anddrinking and getting drunk.
You take three steps away,right the counter, and you can't
even hear them laughing in themusic, and the music was loud.
How do you walk three stepsaway from it and not hear shit?

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I don't know, how is that evenphysically possible?
And I kept telling you that isso fucking weird.
How is that even possible?
You walk down this hallway andthere's nobody at all in this
hallway For a packed out hotel,hotel.
How is there nobody down there?
And there's bathrooms overthere too, so that that doesn't
add up to me.
It was just so fucking strangeif you would still hear the

(28:44):
music and people laughing fromwhere we were at.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Nope, you walk around the corner, it's dead silence I
just want to know, like why wekept losing all this time, like
we were both getting sofrustrated.
We're like what the hell is, Idon't know.
It was just so weird, it was sobizarre.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
But we can't recall anything like what did we do in
that time?

Speaker 1 (29:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
I don't know yeah, we must have time lapse.
You go in the elevator andyou're going back in time.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
You're losing hours it was so slow.
It put us back 10 years.
That's pretty bad.
So what did you think about theshowman's rest cemetery?

Speaker 2 (29:27):
oh, I liked it.
I thought it was really cool.
Um, walking through there I gotsome creepy vibes just walking
here and especially I knew thatbali's grave and seeing all
somebody put a bunch of penniesdown on the graves.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yep, and we went and got changed and you guys, we all
put it.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, but it was sad, you know, I just felt like a
really bad sadness being there.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
So you guys, the Showman's Rest Cemetery is in
Forest Park, illinois.
It's a 750-plot section of awoodlawn cemetery, mostly for
circus performers, owned by theShowman's League of America.
Oh, that's what the SL, that'swhat that meant, okay, oh yeah,
we did look that up right, wefigured that out, yep.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Do you know what's weird, though For that being the
main attraction, it wasactually kind of hard to find,
even though it was right out inthe open where we were.
The graves weren't that easy tofind at first?
No, they weren't, they were not.
And there was this other chickthat pulled up there in the car
and they were just, I don't know, they were bitches.
I don't think they wanted totell us anything.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah, they were weird .
We're like, hey, are you guyshere investigating?

Speaker 2 (30:34):
And they're like now.
But yeah, they were.
You could clearly see that'swhat they were fucking doing.
I just don't think they wantedto tell us what they were
finding or what they werelooking for, because they were
out there looking at the gravestoo and that one girl was
telling the other girl she waspointing at something, yeah, and
they, I was trying to find out.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
They went behind the graves.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah, there's something over there, but why
wouldn't she just say that?
No, she was really bitchy aboutit too.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
We should have beat her ass and stole the evidence,
fuck around and find out.
That's exactly what we shouldhave did.
So the showman's rest is due tothe Hammond Circus train wreck
in 1918.
So just to give you guys alittle quick highlighted history

(31:20):
part of it.
The Showman's League of America, formed in 1913 with Buffalo
Bill Cody as its first president, had recently selected and
purchased the burial ground forits members in Woodlawn Cemetery
at the intersection of SurmarkRoad and Des Plaines Avenue in
Forest Park, illinois.
The first performers and showworkers buried in showman's rest

(31:43):
were between 56 and 61employees and they had all died
in the train wreck on June 22,1918, in Hessville, indiana.
22nd 1918 in Hessville, indiana, as many as 86 people were
killed early that morning whenan empty Michigan Central
Railroad troop train travelingfrom Detroit, michigan, to

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Chicago, illinois, plowed intoHagenbeck-Wallace's circus train
after the troop's train'sengineer, engineer alonzo
sergeant, had fallen asleepamong the dead.
Um, so, like the great directsbrothers, they were in strongman
act and the jenny ward todd ofthe flying wards services for

(32:30):
the victims buried at Showman'sRest were held five days after
the train wreck.
And then there's a historicalmarker in their statues of
elephants, and inscribed are thewords Showman's Rest.
From the corners of theShowman's Rest plot.
A fifth, larger elephant statueis at the center with the words

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Showman's League of Americaelephant statue is at the center
with the words showman's leagueof america.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
You know what was.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Sad, though, is all those unknown graves, like
unknown male, unknown feet.
That that's what was sad.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, that's really, because there's kids too, but
there were so many of them thatwere unknown just walking
through there, just looking atthat, it's just like you got the
chills and it was just.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
It was just that deep sadness yeah, it was sad, it
was definitely sad yeah, allthose unknown people like, how
do you have like a full?

Speaker 2 (33:19):
and I get that, you know it was a real horrific
accident.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
But all those people they had to have family or
something well, yeah, a lot ofthem had their kids and their
wives with them, because theyused to travel together yeah,
that was really sad, though justwalking through there and you
could pick up on the kid vibestoo.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
I don't think there was an evil clown there.
Like I've heard rumors of anevil clown, I think it was.
Maybe possibly a sad clown.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
I think it's a sad clown, but I think people go and
fuck with him too there, and Ithink people try to get
something to happen and peopleare mean about clownss.
Clowns have a very bad stigmaand I think, like he could
definitely turn evil if you'regonna go and you're gonna, like
you know, belittle him at hisresting spot, right, right.

(34:05):
So the haunting legacy is thatthe tragic history and the
presence of an elephant with theheadstone, symbolic of the
animals that also perished Iforgot about that.
The elephants did oh yeah, andthey're buried, aren't they
buried there?
Oh, I don't know.
It says, though, on a separatetrain, have contributed to

(34:26):
stories of ghostly sounds,especially at night, and then
there's been like creepy clownsightings.
And then there's been likecreepy clown sightings, but they
want you to understand thatit's not a clown cemetery.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
So so, Baldi, was that a clown?
Did we ever figure that out?

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Okay, that's what I'm going to look up.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Baldi yeah, see if you can Google it.
I mean not exactly when I lookup Baldy.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Baldy is a clown that is buried at Showman's Rest.
One of the victims of thebodies pulled from the
Hagenbeck-Wallace Circus trainwreck, and he was mangled.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Okay okay, so he wasn't clown.
I wonder if that's who theyreferred to as the evil clown.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
I think that's what they said, right?
Uh, the cowboys, wrestlers, thetumblers, the clowns, the
rastabouts, the move, the showat dawn, they're all part of the
tragic tour offered bygraveside paranormal when I
remember you were saying um,play, play circus music.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
And as soon as you said that, start playing the
circus music in the backgroundyeah yeah, I don't know I that
was the first time that I'veever used those noise canceling
headphones, did you?

Speaker 1 (35:54):
like them.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Oh, I loved them.
I didn't want to take them off,I just I loved them.
They're so cool.
But the stuff that I washearing on there, I don't know
Like you would ask how old areyou and then next thing you know
, the phone would go off and saythe same thing.
That's why I asked you, I said,are these two connected?
You're like no, uh-uh.
I'm like wow, because I heardthat whisper before it even came
on the phone.

(36:15):
Whoa, so that's what I reallythought was cool.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
That's what I was telling you.
With those headphones, you'llpick up disembodied voices.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah, I like that, though I thought that was so
neat how it did that, becauseI've never even put a pair of
those on before, so to actuallyIsn't it crazy.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
I'm trying to think, or I'm trying to.
Okay, so you can find gravemarkers with nicknames or names
like Baldi, baldi Smiley,alongside markers for roles like
four horse driver, and then hesimply labeled unknown male or
unknown female.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Well see, I walked through there and I know you did
too quite a few times.
I don't remember seeing amarker that said Smiley.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
I don't.
I didn't see Smiley.
They said I seen Baldi.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
I seen the horseman.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Besides Baldy, other notable burials include Smiley,
um.
The majority of these buriedare unknown, many being rust
abouts and temporary workershired the day before the
accident.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Oh man, that's sad.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Miley, stop, I'm sorry, miley's snoring.
So Miley took over Luca's spot.
Now she, when I podcast, shehangs out down on the recliner
and she snores just like Lucadid.
Aw, yeah, they're.
I feel like they were nice tous.
They were very respectfulspirits that we talked to, I

(37:55):
know.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
I don't know.
A couple times they said somenuts and I stepped up?

Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yeah, they did call me an asshole.
What did they call you?
A retard?
Well, you know what, though?
Here's the thing, Back you know, early 1900s, unfortunately, if
you were autistic anythingdifferent, retard was like a
word I think that they used.
Right, if you were autisticanything different, they retard
was like a word.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
I think that they used Right Right.
You know, they were just theydid call us a couple of names.
I mean, you have it on uh whenyou go through your evidence.
It's in there.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
But yeah, so that will be.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
that will be part two of this, but um that was kind
of funny, though it's like whatdid we do?
Thanks, did you, but um, thatwas kind of funny though it's
like what did we do?

Speaker 1 (38:35):
thanks, did you think it was haunted there?
I?

Speaker 2 (38:39):
don't think it's haunted, I you could definitely
feel the spirits.
Like I said, as soon as youwalk in there or walk over to
the grave site, there's asadness.
You could feel the sadness.
It was like a heavy feeling inyour chest.
Well, that's how I felt anyways.
It's just like a sadness, and Ithink they're confused, like
they don't know.
I think that they don't realizewhat's going on, like they want

(39:00):
to know who you are.
They kept asking how old areyou?
Or you know questions like that, like I don't know if it was a
child that I was talking to, butyou definitely.
How old are you?
And then you'd ask them aquestion and sometimes they
didn't respond, but it felt likeit was kind of like well,
they're part of a circus, right,they're entertainers, they
perform, so it's like they'retrying to trick you.

(39:20):
I don't know how to explain it,but I didn't feel there's
definitely spirits there, but itwasn't like a scary feeling
what do you think it would havebeen like at nighttime?

Speaker 1 (39:31):
I?

Speaker 2 (39:33):
don't know.
Um, I think it probably wouldhave been like the same maybe,
or maybe they come out more atnighttime because it's dark and
a lot of people aren't therebecause, for it being okay, it
was a sunday afternoon.
When we're there, for it beinga sunday afternoon, there was a
lot of people in and out of thatplace.
That I know.
It's like you notice that carthat drove by like three
different times the same car.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah, there was quite a bit of people there.
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
So maybe at nighttime you know the spirits like well,
my whole thing, my whole takeon that is you go to the same
place all the time.
It's the same people all thetime asking the same questions.
That's a popular spot lot, so alot of people go there and I
don't know.
Sometimes spirits get tired ofthe same thing over and over and
over again.
Could you imagine what, ifyou're dead, if the same people

(40:19):
kept coming to you asking thesame questions over and over
again?
I, oh, I'd fuck with them, Imean yeah, but you just you get
tired of it at some point Iwould, but I would have to fuck
with people because I'd have tomake an entertaining right, but
they're entertainers too, so atnighttime it'd probably be a
little bit more lively there.
Like I wouldn't mind taking atrip back there in the future

(40:39):
and I definitely want to stay atthat hotel.
I don't know.
Like I said, I want to staythere to investigate, but at the
same time it's like I can'teven recall the details that
happened that.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
We should take the Don.
We should take the Don to thatcemetery.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Oh no, he'd piss him off, He'd wild him off for sure.
That guy, he's fucking nuts.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
If there's anybody that's going to get him to come
out and play, it's definitelygoing to be him and then I was
so tired driving Like I feltlike we never slept, but we did
sleep.
We slept a lot at the hotel andthen driving home was like
rough.
Yeah, we were all tired yourears or your gird or whatever
was acting up.

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Natalie was really quietterrible.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Yeah, she was sleeping most of the time.
She was crashed out in the back, but man, it was terrible the
whole entire time.
Remember I showed you I bloatedup like I was fucking pregnant.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
My stomach was huge then you, you got freaked out at
the Mexican restaurant and Ididn't.
The thing is that creeps me outthat place, I know, but when
you guys tell me that, I don'teven like remember, even
realizing that.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
But what place locks the fucking door?
Like they were locking the doorafter us.
I'm like why are you lockingthe door?
And I looked around, there'sonly five people in there.
There's a little casino off tothe side, but they're all men.
Like there's no females inthere.
I just got weird vibes for amoment.
That's why I stopped the guyand I asked him.
I said excuse me, why are youlocking the door?
He's like oh, because we lockedthe door and we ran out of food

(42:04):
.
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Well, how did they serve us food then?

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Right, and that's.
He's like don't worry, we gotyour food.
I'm like, okay, this don't makesense.
You guys aren't closed till 9o'clock, but yet here it is.
It's what?
6 o'clock and you're lockingthe door because you ran out of
food.
That just did not sit rightwith me.
It was just a weird fuckingexperience there too.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
It was crazy, I don't know.
It felt like we were goneforever, but we were only gone
like overnight.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Right, that's insane.
And now, thinking back on it,like I know, I'm going to be so
mad when I get off the phonewith you because I'm going to
remember all this shit that Iwant to say about this place,
but I can't remember, I can'teven recall it.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Well, write it down or text it.
And then part two, because Iwant you to hear the evidence
too.
Like we'll do that soon, okay,and then you'll remember
everything, but it was a verybrainless time, like I feel,
like both of our brains weremush no, but if you're ever in
chicago, there would definitelybe a spot to check out and
investigate, because there'ssomething up with.

(43:07):
I mean, go in the elevator,you'll feel it yeah, every time
we went to fucking elevator welike teleported somewhere
different.
We're're like where are we?
Yeah, and I'm like we only cameout here for like 15 minutes.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Oh Jesus.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
I know we didn't even fucking think about that.
That's so funny.
We snuck in the conference room.
Now that's where I got theheebie-jeebies.
I felt, when you watch thisshow, you're gonna see, you're
gonna be like, oh my god, now Isee why she was so freaked out
by this conference room.
Just wait, girl, just wait.
You're gonna watch this showand you're going to see, you're
going to be like, oh my God, nowI see why she was so freaked
out by this conference room.

(43:56):
Just wait, girl, just wait.
You're going to, you're goingto watch a show and you're going
to be like, oh my God, we haveto go back there, yep.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Yeah, but for people that have conferences there all
the time, there was never aconference.
There was never a conference.
And that African lady.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
I feel like she like a convention and she basically
nicely told me to mind mybusiness.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
She was voodoo queen, for sure.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
And I know her mom was bald, her mom had a wig on,
but her mom had really crazylooking like African, egyptian
eyes and she just kept staringat me and I'm like, um, and then
those tall girls that you leftme alone with in the elevator,
dude, there was like three tallass women behind me and like I
could feel them behind me, likethey would not.

(44:47):
I smiled at them, they wouldn'tsmile at me and they were all
like seven feet that's anotherthing, though these people like
I'm not a big people personeither.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Okay, I don't really go out of my way to make
conversation with people,especially in the elevator, but
these people were coming inthere in groups and they're all
together like they know eachother, and nobody even said
nothing to anybody no, no onetalked it was the most random
thing.
Like I said, I don't get outmuch, but the few and far times
that I do go on vacation or gostay at a hotel or something,

(45:18):
I've never experienced nothinglike this place.
No, no, it's definitely worthchecking out.
Just make sure you have a lotof time, because you lose time.
Don't sleep, because you'lllose like 10 hours even if you
only sleep two.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
And then, like the last night that we were sleeping
, like, when I woke up I'm likewhere'd Teresa go?
Dude, you were all the way atthe end of the bed rolled up in
a ball with your blanket overyou.
I was almost scared because I'mlike, is that Teresa underneath
there?
Like what is that?
That's so weird.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
I don't ever sleep like that though.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
I'm like what is that ?
And when I would wake up Iwould just be like what is
happening?
Like what?
Like we were, what was what?
I don't know.
We just lost.
We just lost time.
I don't know what happened.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Yeah, but that's weird too, because, like the
first night, I was what normal Ifeel like, and I always freaked
out at home too.
So to be balled up on the edgeof her bed.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
But it was so creepy looking because like she had
this, like she had like herlittle blanket over.
I mean, remind you Teresa'slike four foot eight, but it
looked so weird at the end ofthe bed I'm like, is that her?
Like?
What is that?
Like?
It was weird.
I didn't know if, like you leftand like I was scared, like I
wasn't about to pull back theblanket.
I was like it's like a horrormovie.
No, thank you, no it wasdefinitely me.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
I was in that room, as far as I know it was so weird
, it was just so weird.
I don't know, some hotels creepme out, but I walked into that
hotel, not creeped out at all.
I think we got there reallylate and I was tired and I just
wanted to get in the room andjust you know, that's it.
That's all I wanted to do.
I just wanted to get in theroom and just you know, that's
it.
That's all I wanted to do wasjust get to my room and just

(47:03):
relax.
And then you know, of course wehad to get up early in the
morning.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
I just didn't think much of it.
I didn't feel creeped out, Iwas just weirded out.
I was really confused.
I was confused the whole timethere.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Well, yeah, because as soon as you and I took a
different elevator, I'm like ohmy God, where am I?

Speaker 1 (47:29):
I thought I was in a different hotel.
I felt very uncomfortable.
I felt very uncomfortable bymyself in that hallway.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
Yeah, I don't know, that was fucking weird.
Just sitting up in that room,though, was weird, Like the
whole atmosphere, Like you walkout of that room, it was.
I don't know if you felt thisway, but I got the chills every
time I walked in that room,because it was like you're
walking into a different.
I don't know how to explain itLike a different dimension.
Yes, yes, absolutely.
You walk out of the room andit's like you're in a whole

(48:05):
different place.
Yeah, I don't but to not hearnobody in those rooms and it's
packed out Like there was afucking hair convention.
They didn't even have any otherrooms.
It's so packed out and just inthat hotel, but to not even hear
nothing the whole entire timeyeah, that is true.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
That is true.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
We didn't hear anything and there was over 300
people there yeah, because everytime we go outside there was
tons of people constantly in andout.
When we walked through thatplace it was packed out.
It's like, oh my god, all thesefucking people and then the bar
being right there and all thoseyoung people coming from
everywhere to go party at thisbar, and if you walk around the
hall and it's dead silent, youknow some of those people are

(48:45):
staying in that hotel too.
Like a lot of people are therefrom all across the country for
this hair show.
It was a big, it was a big hairshow, right.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
And then not to hear anybody, like nothing, not even
see people walking down the hallor nothing I feel like so
drained that now that we'vetalked about this, I'm like I
know I do too.
I feel like we're back thereagain.
I don't know, but I don't.
My dreams I can't.
I don't even remember dreamingthere, like I don't recall

(49:14):
astral projectings.
You know, with you I do that,obviously.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Right, but you know what, though I don't know,
something does not want us totalk about this, because I
seriously, as soon as I got onthe phone with you, you're like
you're ready, yep, I'm ready, Ihave so much to say, and then
I'm drawing a blank.
It's like I'm back in thathotel again.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Yeah, we're getting late, shit our brains were like
mush, it was just, and Natalielike was pretty quiet yeah,
she's normally pretty quiet, butI don't know.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
I don't think she wanted to be there either.
To be honest with you, I thinkshe was feeling kind of off.
I haven't even talked to herabout it since.
We've been home.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Oh, yeah, then she.
It's been over a month yet shelost her bank card there, too,
didn't she?
Or her ID, yeah?

Speaker 2 (50:00):
her license and that their tune in she or her id,
yeah, her license.
And that I think, uh, yeah, andI don't understand, because I
swear she grabbed that off thefucking table.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
That night she had to .
She was going out to dinnerwith her friends right.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
But there was because , remember, she came in.
She's like did you find my keys?
I'm like, yeah, they're on thetable and I swear that she
grabbed them and brought themwith her.
But even her friends, when theycame up to the room, were
really quiet yeah, they did notno one seemed like they were
having a good time no, it's likeyou walk in that hotel and it
just changes you.
I got very bitchy being there metoo, me too, I was like on edge

(50:31):
the whole entire time and Imean I know it's weird me being
away from my kids, because Idon't ever leave my kids and I
was worrying shit.
But I was like so on edgebecause I was picking up on all
these different feelings, likeand they weren't good feelings
either like there was a lot ofnegativity there and I swear and
I know I sound crazy sayingthis, but I'll say it again
those people they had to havebeen dead.
We time-lapsed, we went, wewent back in time to 2002, where

(50:54):
things were just completelydifferent, and that's why we're
so creeped out that's what Ithink happened.
I think we time-lapsed yeah, butI've never seen no shit like
that.
I mean, when they redid thathotel, I think they I wonder if
there was like I wonder why theyredid it.
Did they redo it becausesomething happened there?
Or they did because 1980, Imean, yeah, that's old, but it

(51:14):
ain't that old and they didn'ttouch the one hallway.
There's got to be some kind ofhistory behind that hotel that
they're not saying.
Even when I called thereremember I called there because
I was trying to figure out whathappened to Natalie's keys I
kept calling there and I couldnot get through to anybody.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
You called, you got through right away.
Yeah, that was weird.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Oh, yeah, that was the day after.
Yeah, I could not get throughto anybody and I was trying to
find this place online.
I was calling, I was gettingsome weird recording and then
it'd hang up on me.
I'm like what the hell is goingon and I was bitching at you
and then you call and you getthrough right away.
You're like, well, I told herto call you back.
I'm like how the how the helldid you get through, when I've
been calling for like the lastfucking hour?

Speaker 1 (52:00):
And she called you back.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
She did the next day.
Yeah, it wasn't well.
I knew the news that she wasgoing to tell me shit front of
the keys.
I already knew that was goingto happen, but she did.
She called me back.
She's like no, I'm sorry, Ididn't find nothing.
I'm like okay, well in case youdo, you know you have my number
call dude like what if we didlike cross through like a dead
zone?
something happened that was notnormal.

(52:24):
Like I said, it changed how youare.
It changed how I was the wholeentire time, like I was so
excited, looking forward to thisvacation.
And I can't even fuckingremember it right now no, I
can't either, like I'm when you.
I do remember details from thecemetery and I remember details,
very vivid, from that Mexicanrestaurant.
I remember everything like thebagel shop, everything outside

(52:44):
the antique shop, everythingoutside the hotel.
I remember, clear as day, theride there, the ride back that
hotel.
I can't remember shit.
I mean, I barely, right now, tobe honest with you, remember
what the room even looked like.
What was our room number?

(53:16):
Dude, that's crazy out here andthere's going to be somebody
dead in there.
Don't ask me why.
I kept thinking that, dude,that's crazy.
And then we kept taking theworkers elevator and that was
just strange.
Yeah, but I'm telling you rightnow, that guy that I kept
seeing walking back and forthlike what do you keep walking
back and forth?

(53:37):
For he didn't have any luggageor baggage with him, he just
kept walking back and forth.
Same look on his face, thisbald up on the side of him.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Where are you going and what are you doing and why
do you keep walking back andforth?
Maybe, maybe, he was dead andthat was his residual haunting.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
That's the last thing he remembered doing.
So yeah, I bet you know what.
I think he was dead becausethere's no way and it was like
he just walked.
You weren't even in that garagelong enough for you to keep
walking back and forth.
You know, I mean, I canunderstand if you're going
somewhere, you walk to thegarage and you take off or you
have to get something out ofyour car or whatever.
But he wasn't in the garagelong enough to get something out

(54:12):
of his car and here he comeswalking back again, and then he
walks the opposite way again,right back to the parking garage
.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
What the fuck is this guy doing?
I?

Speaker 2 (54:23):
don't even remember you talking about this guy, let
alone seeing him.
I don't even.
Yeah, he creeped me out Like Iwas really creeped out by that
guy, In fact, that's.
The only thing that reallystands out to me about the whole
entire time was that fuckingbandaid over his eye and that
black coat and his fist balledup.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Oh boy, yeah, I'm like drawing a blank and I
remember you saying, like youdon't remember, I told you twice
and I'm like I don't even, Ididn't even hear you.
Like what, like what guy?

Speaker 2 (54:48):
That's what's weird about it too, because I know I
did tell you.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Yeah, and you said he walked right in front of my
truck and I'm like what?

Speaker 2 (54:54):
He did.
But the weird part is, Melissa,he walked right in front of
your truck when you were staringat that door.
I don't remember even seeing aguy.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
I don't think I see them.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
What the hell?
Yeah, that was creepy and hewas coming out of that hotel
going to that parking garage.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
We should have investigated that parking garage
too that parking garage gave mecreeps when I, oh my god, the
first night oh, I'm, I'm, um.
When I walked out and I had towalk through that little hallway
thing to get back, oh oh no, Idid not feel good, I would not
turn around.
I'm like, I'm not turningaround, I'm just going to keep

(55:47):
walking, walk, walk, walk, walk.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Yeah, because you were by yourself too.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
It had nothing to do with the parking garage.
It was this feeling that I had.
Oh my God, you know what I justremembered when I walked back
across to go get the truck toget you and Natalie.
Yeah, um, it took fuckingforever on this elevator, okay.
So then it kept like openingand then there would be like 10

(56:14):
plus people in there.
Then there'd be four morepeople and I'm like and this one
guy was waiting as long as Iwas I remember him looking at me
and I looked at him.
I go, this doesn't make sense.
He's like I don't know what thehell is going on.
He's like it's only one stairsup.
He's like where'd all thosepeople come from?
I'm like I don't know.
And then we had to get into theelevator.

(56:34):
Then there was like 20 peoplein there and I'm like like what
the where did these people?

Speaker 2 (56:39):
because you, there's nowhere that they can go, like
we're all on the same groundyeah, that is weird, but you
know, what's even weird aboutthat, too, is where those
fucking people even come from.
Anyways, I was standing thereand I didn't see like 20 people
go walking into that parkinggarage.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
I have no idea, because they were going up, but
how were they already in theelevator?
Oh oh, I'm getting the freaks.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
Ooh yeah, see, I didn't even know that.
That is fucking weird.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
It creeped me out, oh my God, when I seen daylight
and I clicked the thing and theyou know the arm came up.
I'm like, oh, and I seen youand Natalie standing there.
I'm like, oh, thank God.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
It's almost like we.
It was like almost like weird,like a do-over, if you think
about it that way, because Ikept seeing the same guy, we had
the same dasher, we lost allthat time.
It's like it just keptrepeating in a different way.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
Oh, yeah, but I remember waiting, though, to go
up and I finally said, fuck it,I'm gonna take the stairs, and
then every time I would say thatthe door would open.
But there would be like all,all these people in there and
I'm like, where did they comefrom?
Like they, they're going up too, so they would have had to be
on the same ground as me andthat guy, and they were, I don't
know.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
It's so weird.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
No, it's only I don't know, but they were multiplying
every time the door would open.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Oh, that's weird.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
And there was this lady.
She was like really foreign.
I don't know if she was likeMexican, I don't think she spoke
English.
Hi, Mama, but she aw, he goeshi Mama, Mom, why?

Speaker 2 (58:14):
are you in Bobby's room?
I'm talking to Aunt Mel.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Hey, buddy, how are you feeling?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you feel good.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Talk.
You can say hi to her, hi.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Do you feel okay?

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Hey look, Michael, I got you two new Two new.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
You got a new.
Two new yeah, you got.
I can't see that so hard.
You got a new one.
You got a new.
Yeah, you got a new one.
Good, I'm so happy for you,buddy.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
Aww.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Her son just had surgery.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
My kid was just sleeping.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Well, we brought the crazy out in him.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
He probably heard us talking about ghost stuff yeah,
he's just, he would never evenknow he had surgery today that's
crazy yeah, he's acting likenormal, like nothing's wrong
with him.
He's fantastic and I'm happyabout it.
I just find it odd how he'sjust recuperating so fast.
Well, he's, I don know.
A lot of shit's been weird.
But ever since we got back fromChicago though like that first

(59:23):
week just everything was weird.
It was, I felt, so off, like itwas hard to get back in the
normal groove with things, andwe weren't even gone for what?
Two fucking days, I know.
I felt like I was gone for likea month.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
It was very bizarre.
I I've never stayed at a hotellike that in my life.
But let's end it here, becauseI want you to be able to get a
couple episodes, and once youstart watching this show, you're
not going to be able to stop.
I think there's like eight ornine, maybe 10.
Um, we're going to have torevisit this conversation when
we do the live recordings.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
I hope I don't keep drawing blanks then.
Either I'm going to startwriting this crap down as soon
as I start remembering it,because I know like as soon as I
get off the phone with you, I'mgoing to be like oh yeah, I
should have said this, or Ishould have explained this more,
even trying to talk about it,when we first started this
conversation off.
I'm like, uh, where do we start?

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
But thank you for coming on here and um, I we've
we've been wanting to talk aboutthis since you know we've we
went over a month ago, right,Yep, March April, oh, April,
yeah, so a couple months ago,All right.
Well, you guys, if you have anyum stories to add to this, or

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