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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 1 (00:39):
You're listening to the Strangeology Podcast. I'm your host, Jeff Floren,
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forbidden knowledge, ancient mysteries, conspiracies and more. All right, folks,
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welcome back to the show. Today's episode, we are going
to have a new guest today. I've got Darcy Weir
with me to chat about his filmmaking and podcasting projects.
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So let's just get into it today because we've got
a lot of ground to cover. Darcy is the guy,
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the mastermind behind Occult Journeys, and he and I connected
a while back online, probably just as a response to
something I posted, maybe a meme. I don't know. We
run in similar circles, I don't really remember. But he's
got this prolific catalog of documentaries and film series that
you should really check out, all about anything, really for Tiana,
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all the stuff we talk about on the show on
a regular basis. Basically, he's on a mission to bring
the world's most captivating mysteries into the spotlight, like UFOs, cryptids,
even stuff like bitcoin and beyond. And he's been doing
this for over twenty years now. He's crafted fifteen feature
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length documentaries, all of which you can check out on
streaming services like Amazon or Apple TV and others, which
of course makes these enigmatic topics much more accessible to
the everyday person to help shed new light on the
mysteries surrounding us. So thanks for being here Darcy today.
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Glad to have you on the show. Finally, we've got
a lot of ground to cover, but why don't we.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Start with this.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Your films span topics all sorts of time topics, from
things like UFOs, alien abduction, crop circles, even Bigfoot? What
was the spark that kind of pulled you into the
whole world of high strangeness.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I think I've just always had like a very inquisitive
mind towards this stuff. I'm not you know, I probably
finished in the lowest percentile as an athlete in my family.
But I always focused on sensational stuff growing up. You know,
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I found horror movies and sci fi to be the
most engaging thing out there with my mind. And I
you know, I think the very first time that I'd
seen something about aliens being possibly real was when I
was maybe about like ten years old. I think I
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saw the film Fire in the Sky. Oh, and I
did not know until I was an adult or like
an adolescent, that that was a depiction of a true
story of Travis Walton's abduction case. And you know, fast
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forward to two thousand and I want to say, yeah,
probably two thousand and sixteen, I interviewed Travis Walton for
documentary I was making called Being Taken about the whole
abduction phenomenon and the many credible cases and what's commonly
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reported by abductees and you know, how far does this
go back?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And so on?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
And so forth, and yeah, I was at that point.
I was like on documentary three and I was in
you know, I was totally hooked to this object.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, you know, I feel like a lot of us
out there really have a similar backstory, you know, being
drawn towards books on Bigfoot UFO. You see the Patterson
Gimlin film, You're like, oh, there's there's something there. Maybe
it's a person in the suit, maybe it's not. I
don't know, but yeah, that's really that's awesome that you
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got to talk with Travis Walton. I did see him
speak back in twenty eighteen at Contact in the Desert,
and you know, his story was one that always was
just so interesting. I actually didn't watch Fire in the
Sky until I was probably close to thirty, just because
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the alien abduction phenomena always scared the hell out of me.
And I was just like, I saw some clips from
it and I was just like, yeah, I don't know,
but yeah, yeah for sure. Now, I mean, you've gotten
to talk to Travis Walton, You've gotten to talk to
other people like Richard Dolan and Stephen Bassett others. How
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has your perspective kind of changed over the years since
you've been you've been doing this.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, I always thought that maybe this phenomenon was related
to aliens from another solar system out there in the universe,
whether that's our galaxy or beyond, I guess. And yeah,
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I just thought there was only a possibility of extraterrestrial life.
And then, you know, just as things have moved forward
in the past five years, that conversation has really changed.
And I got introduced to Michael P. Masters, who wrote,
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you know, multiple books on the the X ray tempestree model,
which is, you know, maybe they're us from the future,
and maybe what we're seeing are you know, a super evolved,
genetically modified being that we could call like humanity, I
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don't know, three point oh, two point zero whatever, definitely
not what we're we are now. And then you know,
I've spoken to other folks like Tim Galladett, Rear admiral,
who served in the Navy for fourteen years. Seven of
those years he was like the chief oceanographer and was
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on exercise and saw the UAP video called the Go
Fast UAP. I believe that was shot in two thousand
and four, but he was working and had that received
that in an eel and it was considered a safety
of light risks. So they were discussing on that thread,
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this chain of command in the ipsect sort of encrypted server.
Should we scrap this exercise or should we keep going?
And I just find that that sort of phenomenon around
the ocean. People are starting to talk about, Hey, maybe
they're crypto terrestrials. Maybe there's something that's living at the
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bottom of our oceans that is out of sight and
out of sound most of the time. Or you know,
other people have said there's been things living in the
underground in the deep of you know, the solid rock
structures beneath their feet, or you know, whatever you may
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think is down there. Phil Schneider is one of the
very first documentaries I made, and he talked about trying
to build an underground base and getting into a firefight
with ets down there or grays or something.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
And so.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
It's out there to think that maybe there's something that's
been living here that's higher intelligence than we allow to exist.
And then you've got the ET thing. You've got extra
dimensional explanations for, you know, a concealed non human intelligence
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presence here. It's all out there. David Grush is really
kind of the one that came forward in the past
five years, you know, with the help of Elizondo and
all these new whistleblowers coming out of intelligence and military backgrounds,
and hey, I mean I'm not like closed towards any
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of these ideas. A debunker immediately will say, well, it's
all b yes, but I'm open to any of these
theories being possible if science permits it to be right.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, it's interesting. You know, you mentioned the
phil Schneider case. That was probably one of my earlier
exposures to you know, the deeper down the rabbit hole
aspect of.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
You know, what are these things? What could they be?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Are they you know, something that's living underground in the oceans,
which you know, that's that's been a very heavy conversation
point of point of conversation lately in online circles I've
noticed and very well, very well could be. You know,
you've got legends from the Hopie that talk about the
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ant people and how they they a people saved the
Hope from a couple of different cataclysms that affected the world.
And you obviously we've got legends and myths from cultures
all around the world that talk about similar things. And
it's just really interesting that, you know, that's kind of
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a point a point of conversation these days. You know,
it seems like there's there's some gears moving in that
direction for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, I mean, you're you kind of it's like are
aliens cryptids? Or are cryptids sometimes mistaken for aliens? You know,
there's I ended up back a while ago now made
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two documentaries separately on the bigfooter Sasquatch you know, wild
men relic humanoid theory, and one documentary. The first one
was called Sasquatch mong wild Man. I licensed like the
famous Patterson Gimlin film, slowed it down, you know, zoomed in,
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enhanced the footage as much as I could, and that
was really what struck me as being a very credible
film of a supposed Bigfoot or Sasquatch. I don't think
we've ever had something like that since. And there's been
some other interesting videos and films that have come out,
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but we just need like more smoking gun footage like that,
you know what I mean. And it's interesting because when
you're in the Bigfoot community listening to people discussed these ideas,
they often say, hey, you know, bigfoot also jumps through
portals and appears to like materialize out of nowhere instead
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of like climbing down from a tree or popping up
from a bush or something like that, which would have
been my original thesis right on this cryptid. And I
often wonder sometimes like is this actually a bigfoot people
are seeing or is this like a non human intelligence
that is actually extraterrestrial or extra dimensional or something like that,
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And people are just saying, no, that's actually a bigfoot.
So I think there's a lot of like crossover when
it comes to people seeing things out there in the wilderness,
in the sky, in the oceans, you know, in their backyard,
I don't know that, or over military installations that is anomalous.
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And people's interpretations are constantly changing based on their own
ideologies or what they accept as to be real.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Right, Yeah, yeah, I mean it's interesting to think about that. Like,
you know, John Keel he once talked about the cosmic
trickster in relation to the seeming interconnectedness to the UFO
phenomena cryptids in general, like paranormal. I mean, do you
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think that idea kind of resonates more than then? You know,
these are just like separate things going on just coincidentally.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I think we would just need enough evidence to prove,
you know, whether they're connected or not, and whether it's
it could be identified as you know, a cryptid or
an alien or whatever. Right, that's really what we need.
And and you know, John Keel's description of the trickster
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is similar to you know, skinwalker ranches or in that
area of the world of the United States, the skin walker,
you know, so you know, you go to Ireland and
they describe fairies for thousands of years, and you know,
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the fairies are considered tricksters too. That can cause harm
to your health, to your psyche, they could destroy your
property or something like that. And then others have seen
these things without that sort of Irish Gaelic background of
interpretation of interpreting the phenomenon said I saw an alien.
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So it's like it just really depends on the context
and has has this phenomenon existed here for as long
as we have, if not longer, That's the other question
we have to ask, And is that why so many
different cultures from around the world have experienced it but
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given it their own name, their own their own take
on the story. I'll give an example in terms of
like the hardcore Bigfoot sort of cryptid side of things.
You go to China, you go to the Shenajia National
Rainforest and their wild Man sighting, which literally mirrors the
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Bigfoot or sasquatch description in Canada and the United States
is the erin It's a eight foot to ten foot
tall looking ape like man and it has hair brown
or dark black from head to toe, very large feet.
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There's researchers over there in China that have been tracked
these creatures for decades.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
You know.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I think one of the most famous cases happened in
the seventies and they actually had the Chinese army try
and track these things into the forest and they lost
sight of them. But they have foot casts that researchers
have taken over there in China that are exactly like
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mirror images of say what they cast at the sandbar
in Bluff Creek for the Patterson Gimlin sighting. You know
of Patty walking along that substrate and leaving massive footprints,
and those footprints showing a mid tarsal break and you know,
having prehensile ability at the front of the foot kind
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of like a hand, and you know, being of a
size anywhere between thirteen to sixteen inches in length, and
you know sometimes five of two six inches in width.
You know, like these are massive prints. So you know,
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you also go to places like the Caucus region of
eastern Europe that borders Russia and you know, Albania and
all these parts of Eastern Europe, and you have wild
men's sightings like the almosty, which you know, almost looks
like a more ape like version of what we have
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in the fossil record.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
As.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Like a Neanderthal. We know that these existed, We know
that we have our genetics are actually part Neanderthal. The
red gene, hair gene goes back to the Neanderthal lineage.
So like there's evidence that all these different cultures describe
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these sort of wildman types of beings. And I explored
that in the second Cryptid doc that I did, Bigfoot
Sasquatch Doc, which is called Sasquatch among wild Men.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's interesting to think about that, for sure.
I mean, there's bigfoot, sasquatch, whatever you want to call it,
sightings in every corner of North America. It seems some
seem to have their own subtype or maybe even their
their different cultures. Even recently, I was I was chatting
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with Trey from from Squatch me Now, and he was
telling me the story from about the I think he
called him the rock Apes, and they were supposed to
be up in like Quebec, which is in my neck
of the woods.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I mean, oh, you're in Canada.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
No, I'm I'm in Vermont actually, okay, yeah, I'm about
like an hour from the border, so oh cool. Oh yeah,
I haven't been up there in a while, but yeah,
he told me the story about you know, back in
the eighteen hundreds there, or even in like you know,
colonial times, there were villages that would get raided by
these like eight to ten foot tall, like hairy ape
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men from the woods, and they'd come in and like
take food or they might take a woman. You know,
it's like like stuff like that. But then also you
also have like on the other side of the world
in Australia, you've got the Yowie. You know, it's uh,
you know, there's there's stuff going on out there. Yeah,
for sure, for sure, I agree.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
And you know that goes for like the indigenous tribes
that you're talking about, like across North America from Canada
right down to the US. They all have similar stories
of this like wild ape like man that has existed
in deep wilderness that they come across. And in British Columbia,
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which is on the west coast of Canada, they have
the saskette, which is the word that JW. Burns actually
messed up sort of pronouncing, and that's how we got
the word sasquatch from JW. Burns, an English teacher in
the eighteen hundreds living among the native tribe there. So
the sasket is what they called this creature. There's another
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tribe that calls it the Skukum. And often the tale
is to children not to go into the forest alone
because if they do, perhaps the sasquatch, the sascat, the Scucum,
the wild man will get you and eat you. Right,
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And that might sound like just a tale to keep
kids at bay from wandering too far, but there is
a history of primates eating other prime I mean it's children.
It happens all the time with gorillas and chimpanzees, and
you know across all of the primate domain, monkeys do
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it to other monkeys that it just happens. So you know,
we are an upper primate were the top of the
food chain, so to speak. We've dominated the planet. So
you know, it doesn't mean that they wouldn't need our
children type thing.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah, yeah, certainly unsettling to think about that aspect of it, right. Yeah,
It's like, well humans, humans made their way across Africa
into the Middle East and into Europe, and you know
how however that pathway worked, you know, and they encountered Neanderthal,
they encountered probably the denis Ovin's that we know very
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little about, but you know, there there was, there were
other Prominids out there, and who's who to say, you know,
if if Bigfoot is a flesh and blood being, you know,
there could be small pockets or maybe they are somehow
related to the UFO phenomenon as well, and it's hard
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to say. Maybe they have some something similar to the
terrestrial Bigfoot or something like that, who knows.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
I don't know. But I always find it interesting that
when you look at anthropology and archaeological records that trace
back how long we've existed as Homo sapiens on Earth
and how long other upright ape like men have as well.
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Given the fossil record, carbon dating and all that stuff.
When they find remains. You know, you look at the
description of the gigantapithekis Blackie that comes out of the
Asia area, and at one point point our two lands
were connected across you know, the the Pacific with the
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Bearing Land Bridge or Bearing Ice Bridge that connected North
America to Asia and Russia. And you know the gigantic
pithecust Blackie almost fits the description of a sasquatch identically, right, Yeah,
but it's said to have died off and not be
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around anymore. As far they found some teeth in like
the Himalaya region region or something like that, and they
carbon dated many of those to about like one hundred
and fifty thousand to like almost two hundred thousand years ago.
We showed up probably about like three hundred to two
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hundred and fifty thousand years ago, scientists are saying now.
So that still gives you like fifty thousand to seventy
thousand years that we were wandering the same lands as them,
and we have dominated the earth. Part of that domination
has just been killing everything as groups as we move around, right,
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everything has been a threat. When we're setting up our
colonies or towns or tribal lands and stuff. So I
just wonder if these things never really died off, they
still exist, but in various scarce populations deep in deep
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wilderness in different parts.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Of the world. Yeah, I mean, I would have to
think that, you know, there's got to be a certain
level of intelligence that they would have achieved and to know,
after encountering us in our bloodthirsty, murderous ways, that they
might want to, you know, try to stay as far
away from us as they can.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Totally, Yeah, I would, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Now on the on the topic of cryptids, I'm love
I'm loving this this cryptid talk here. We'll circle back
to UFOs in a little bit. But are there any
other cryptids out there that that you've covered, want to cover,
or that you think, you know, I have a good
chance of existing, like a bigfoot.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
I I did a trip to Puerto Rico in the
past two years, and there is something that lives in
the forest there, the Junke National Rainforest, which crosses the
whole island pretty much, and people have described this creature
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as being like a gargoyles or a gargoyle like it
has like a gray skin. They seem to be almost
like a as swan. That's described out of parts of
the Philippines, right, yeah, and lives in the forest or
lives in the rainforest, and the people there seem to
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come across it every now and then. There aren't pictures.
That was the thing when I was like making this
documentary in Puerto Rico, is asking a researcher like are
their videos or pictures? Like, come on, give me this.
But because there's been so many reports of these things,
I'm sure there has to be pictures and video out there.
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I'd love somebody to send them to you. If they
follow you from Puerto Rico or me, feel free to.
But yeah, that is an interesting cryptid. Actually, also out
of Puerto Rico is the chupacabra, which translates to loosely
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goat sucker. And that was a whole thing, you know,
like these sheep goats people had on their properties through
a Puerto Rico for a time. We're finding them, you know,
deeply wounded and their blood drained and they're either dead
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or like right on death's door. And when people had
seen it, this creature, it looked, you know, kind of
like this hairless, kind of reptilian almost looking short creature
that was violent.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
You know, and.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I wonder if there's any chance of documenting that also
in Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Yeah, yeah, the the case of L. Schiopicabre is definitely
it's an interesting one. You know, showed up in the
mid nineteen nineties and there's this big flap and all
these livestock killings, and then people throughout South America, Central
America and even like the American Southwest reports something that
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they call it a chepicabra, But it's it's it seems
to be something different, more like a wolf or coyote
hybrid or something like that. Oh yeah, yeah, have you
ever looked into into that, like the Texas chupacabra slash,
blue dogs, terror dogs or something.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
There's all sorts of different names.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah, Like that name kind of spread like wildfire, and
it's been used to describe basically some kind of violent
prey animal that's, you know, taking over and killing livestock
on farms, even in places like Peru. So it's it's
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it's strange. I don't know what, you know, could be
just a fairal dog or mixed with coyote slash you
know whatever. I don't know, wolf, who knows.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, yeah, it's uh certainly certainly interesting, uh to think about,
you know, I mean there's all sorts of weird K
nine cryptid stories. You know, You've got the the shunka
Waraquin and like Montana, which people think were dire wolves,
and now we have genetics companies reintroducing or they're not
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really dire wolves. I'm sure you've seen the news story
about the genetic engineering and using trade the guys howling, right, yeah, yeah,
I guess you know, it's kind of like, you know,
you see all the news and they're like, oh, they're
they're they de extincted the dire wolf, but it's they're
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really like wolves with just some like modified traits to
make them look more like dire wolves or something like that,
which is you.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Know, yeah, they're genetically modified dogs pretty.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Much, right, Yeah, I think that's I think that's the case.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
So we're not quite we're not quite at the playing
the hand of God completely yet, but it is an
interesting world that we're we're living in right now.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
With respect to.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Like Jurassic Park, t Rex saying like please please please
do this next or something, and I'm just like, wow, yeah,
let's not I think we're too far off from that.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Now I wanted to, uh, I wanted to circle back
to UFOs for a little bit here. I was wondering,
you know, there's so many different cases out there, and
obviously there's a lot of like big ones. You've got Roswell,
Rendall shim are there. What do you think is like
the most credible case out there that that hasn't really
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been explained yet and and what what makes that stand
out to you from your perspective typically, Well.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
You know, I released this doc actually last year early
last year that got completely overlooked. It's a documentary about
my trip to Puerto Rico to speak to the guy
who actually leaked the Aguadilla twenty thirteen UAP footage. Yeah,
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he worked for CBP on behalf of Department of Homeland Security,
and he saw the footage and spoke to the people
that caught the footage firsthand and got the whole backstory,
and then he released that through an individual named Jorge Martin,
who's Puerto rican native who's been covering the sort of
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UFO and anomalists beat for forty plus years. So we
kind of hooked up with them and we traveled around
Puerto Rico. So I feel like Puerto Rico is like
it's a hotbed of anomalists activity. It's really overlooked the
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ocean surrounding. It has been the home of USOS and
UAP activity UFOs for decades now. And you know, it's
at the corner of the Bermuda Triangle. It's where Chipicabo
crumbs from and people report the gargoyles. There's also a
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report of a roswell type crash that happened in the
adjugate National Rainfores there that people said, NASA and the
United States military, we're flying these strange planes over for
like over a month, and they closed off the National
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rainfores from anybody entering. There's still part so that rainforest
that are still off limits to everyone. Oh yeah, and
there's you know a history of people experiencing non human
intelligence over there, so you know, abductions or contact cases.
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There's an island called Vikas which used to have a functioning,
fully functioning naval research station for the US Navy that's
now defunct, but there's a history of UFOs landing over
in vs And Jorge Martin wrote a book about a
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number of people that worked as security guards that were
local Puerto Ricans worked at the base in a security
sort of role, and they said they witnessed the UFO
touchdown a non human entity, get out, meet with a
Navy personnel from the American Navy, and then walk into
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the facility and have a meeting. So there is some
really odd stuff that's happened in the Puerto Rico sort
of history of UFOs, and the Alguadilla footage has been mentioned,
for example, at the Louel Zondo hearing on UAP that
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happened November the thirteenth with Tim Galladett and I'm kind
of Michael the journalist that released the Immaculate Conception documents
and kind of read that into Congressional record there. But
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that was a historic event. They talked about the Aguadilla
footage and that EUAP being, you know, quite remarkable. Then
you know that's been fully poured over by a group
of scientists called the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies the SEU,
and they said there's something anomalous here. It's not a
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mylar balloon bird or something like that. I ended up
when I made this documentary called trans Medium Puerto Rico's UFOs,
I spoke with Dave Falch, who is a professional high
end fleer camera repair and technician. Professional because he basically
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works on the systems that they put on the fighter jets,
like the Fa teens that we're tracking, the the tik
tak and stuff like that. The systems are made by
a company called Westcam and they're anywhere between like a
few million dollars to hundreds of thousands of dollars. This
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is not off the shelf tech. And when he looked
at that EUAP footage which was recorded in Flear by
a CPP plane or yeah, it would have been I
think it was a plane. They would have ruled out
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immediately those agents that this is a balloon or a
bird or whatever. And they tracked it for so long
until it entered the ocean, duplicated into two and then
flew off. And Dave Falch said he had never seen
anything like that in Flear footage with an object that
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was being tracked before in his life. So yeah, that,
you know, we enhanced that footage. We got all the
background story and the strange anomalist behavior and activities that
had been happening around that airport where the footage was shot.
It's called the Raphael Hernandez International Airport, and people have
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seen like strange beings running along the beach at night
and the pitch dark fishermen because fishermen, you know, are
along the side of the island fishing day and night.
It just depends when they go out, and they won't
go and fish near the Rafael International Airport beach anymore
(38:47):
because it spooks them out so much the things they
see there, objects entering and exiting the ocean at high speeds,
all kinds of civilians recording on their cell phones taking pictures.
This has been pretty well documented. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Yeah, the Aguadilla footage is wild. If anyone out there listening,
definitely check it out. It's I remember first seeing it
when I think I first started this whole thing, and
I was just like, whoa, you know, it's it's it's
it's something that's not Yeah, maybe it's of this world,
(39:35):
but it's it's well beyond what conventional aircraft technology can
do can do. Yeah, you know, this thing's flying around
and it was on the FLEAR right, which is.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
It's flear is.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Is forward looking infrared, Yeah, camera technology. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Was it was it visible to the naked eye or
was it only visible on the infrared spectrum?
Speaker 2 (40:02):
That's a great question. So the CBP personnel that we
interviewed for the dock, he said, like all the people
on the ground, the people in the tower at the airport,
the control tower, the people that were in excuse me,
(40:25):
the people that were in the plane tracking this object,
they could not see this with their naked eye. Only
the Fleer camera was picking it up. And that's why
they were like, well, let's track this. This is really weird.
If it was a balloon. The people you could actually
see in the footage, there's a parked plane and there's
like three people standing on the ground when this thing
(40:49):
flies over top of them near the beginning of the footage.
They couldn't see it, you know, So it was just
really strange. Were cars going by at the same time.
This thing drove over the road that leads to the airport,
and there was a parking garage it went over. Many
(41:10):
different people could have witnessed this, but there was only
tracked by the Fleer camera operator in the Fleer footage.
So whatever it was didn't want to be seen. It
was trying to travel around incognito. And at the very
end of this interaction just kind of like a hint
that this thing was highly intelligent and much more, you know,
(41:38):
showing that it wanted to evade detection. When it goes
into the ocean, it seems to duplicate. It seems to
break into two and then fly off in different directions.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
So yeah, that's the craziest part of that to me,
is like it kind of dips into the water and
then comes out and splits.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
It's just like, what is that? You know, like, what
is that?
Speaker 1 (42:04):
It's uh, it's crazy, and you know, it's it's interesting
that there's all this activity happening down near Puerto Rico,
and you know, within the last year or so. You know,
it's like take it with a grain of salt. But
there were people on you know, Reddit, four Chan or
whatever potential whistleblowers I'm not sure talking about, you know
(42:27):
how there's and there was even like news coverage on this,
I think at the end of last year where people
were talking about UFO bases in the ocean, potentially in
the Bermuda triangle, and that's that's a hop, skip and
a jump away from Puerto Rico and and the other
(42:49):
islands of the Caribbean. So who's to who's to say
exactly what's.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Going on there?
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Are you familiar with, like the story of the alleged
UFO UAP factory that like builds builds the craft for
certain mission parameters and that's like it and then they
just ditch them.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Yeah, you're talking about the I think that was like
the Reddit or the four chan whistleblowers something.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Yeah, it was supposedly the tic TAC manufacturer or something
like that. So it's a larger mobile ocean based object
that was being tracked by the Navy, and supposedly the
tic TAC objects, which are smaller, were being emitted from
(43:42):
it through the ocean and then into the atmosphere and
flying around. This was discussed by, believe it or not,
this British journalist named Chris Sharp. He published a Liberation
Times article about it and apparently had sources to confirm
(44:09):
that story. It seems to follow the same sort of
information that lou Elizondo and Tim Galladett have been trying
to point people towards recently. In the past let's say
(44:30):
three years, they've been mentioning the ocean. The ocean, that's
where a lot of the key is to this thing
right which you know, Ryan Graves, David Fraver, Alex Dietrich
separate missions. But these people all described chasing these things
(44:50):
and encountering these things over the ocean. For Ryan Graves
it was off the coast of Virginia. For Dietrich and Fraver,
it was in the Pacific Ocean near California. So I
mean it's possible that's their domain. These UFO usos are
the same thing. They're just staying more out of our
(45:15):
purview by being in the ocean.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Yeah, it's a perfect spot, you know. I mean we
can only go down so far, and whether or not
they're from elsewhere or they're a breakaway civilization, ultraterrestrial or whatever,
it's the perfect spot for them to be. I know
a lot of people ask too, you know. It's like
(45:42):
I always see on like any of my social media
posts about UFOs and you know, especially like the whole
drone fiasco that happened around December last year, right with
New Jersey and all that, people are always like, why
is this only in America?
Speaker 3 (46:01):
But it's not, you know, yeah, it was a global phenomenon.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
It was over first was witnessed over UK air bases.
I want to say, like Heath Heath.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
That he throws to the big like international airport. I'm
not sure about British basis, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Yeah, So it started there and then the next month
it was appearing over New Jersey and I was actually
speaking to this past weekend. I was in San Francisco
for a conference and I was interviewing an individual who's
come forward recently said that he's had interactions with non
(46:46):
human entities.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
He has a military background, doctor John Blitch, and he
when I asked him about the UAP's over Jersey, I said, like,
could this be an exercise that you know, the Mayor
(47:10):
of Jersey or the local authorities like the police and
the Department of Homeland Securities CBP do not have the
need to know about And he said absolutely, Like there
could have been a terrestrial explanation for this. But if
(47:31):
you if this has to do with American security from
a DoD or you know, up the chain of command
in terms of security and defense, those you know, other
authorities may not have the need to know about this operation.
So it could have been And people were reporting right
(47:56):
that these looked like drones, but we're the size of
a car or something like that.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
We do have drones that are that are the size
of a car that are operating over war zones right now,
that are operating over Ukraine and and uh you know,
parts of ease, uh of Middle the Middle East, right,
but they're not routinely seen over major cities on the
(48:32):
east coast of the United States. So that was that
spooks people, right that they've never really seen this mass
deployed before. But I do think that there was credible
UFO sightings or UAP sightings at the same time, because
there were videos that were surfacing online around that time
(48:54):
that seemed to show these more traditional sort of of
car sized drones let's say, approaching the UAP and then
they would just get like shot out of the sky
that they would like fall or they wouldn't be able
to approach closer. And a lot of people were reporting
(49:15):
like light orbs and strange things like that. Yeah, so
I think it possibly was an event that had a
combination of the both of both things happening at the
same time. UAP and you know, unacknowledged flight operations of
(49:38):
some kind of drone stuff. And yeah, it makes sense
if you're looking into the sky. There's so many people
that are paying attention to the drone swarm. They're going
to have their cameras out and they're going to be
looking and paying attention to the sky, and they might
(50:00):
i'd actually pick up something that they wouldn't pick up
before because there's so much attention at that time all
in the.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Sky, right, Yeah, Yeah, it was definitely an interesting time.
You know, when when mass hysteria kicks in or mass
awareness at least of something going on, everyone's like looking
out and I feel like I've heard that there's been
some some sightings recently of like drone looking objects in
(50:31):
the sky, but they're not really drones, you know, even
out as far as like Ohio and like the Midwest,
so perhaps there's there's still some some stuff going on, but.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Yeah, maybe, Yeah, I remember people were, you know, at
the time that the Jersey drones were happening, there was
drones over California and Arizona, so people were just noticed,
you know, more more often than not.
Speaker 3 (51:03):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
It also kind of goes to show, you know, everyone's
got a phone in their pocket these days, and yeah, exactly,
you know, people people are always like, well that image
is blurry. It's it's a bad bad photo, bad video.
There's nothing there and all that, and you know, what
(51:26):
you actually need to get the shot is something a
lot more powerful than a cell phone camera for sure.
But with you know, increased awareness and people looking up
into the skies, it certainly can gather more compelling or
interesting evidence. But totally Yeah, Now, so you you talked
(51:49):
to this this guy who's military. I'm wondering, you know,
have you ever kind of like felt like you've gotten
too close to something and been warned off by anyone
throughout all your works.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
I mean, I've been threatened and accused of being things
that I'm not by people that are in the community.
I feel like the community itself is its own worst enemy. Oh,
it's so tribal and cult like sometimes in terms of
(52:33):
people trusting and believing in only certain people leaders of
the discussion that you know, if you say something like,
oh I don't agree or I'm on the fence of
believing this or something, you're immediately kind of labeled as
an enemy or you know somebody who's you know, not
(52:56):
with them, so that you're against them. That's where I've
really noticed most of the sort of negative behavior towards me.
I've had flight I fly around a lot for my work,
so one time I got flagged with a quadruple S,
(53:20):
so they had to do like an additional search of me.
And I found that so odd because I've never like
broken any laws or you know, done something that would
require scrutiny of myself or the things I'm traveling with.
But you know, otherwise it's been pretty easy going, and
(53:44):
I think there is a lot of paranoia. I have
been paranoid myself about situations and whether, you know, I'll
attract some kind of negative attention from authorities, but it
hasn't really hasn't really happened to.
Speaker 3 (54:03):
Me, gotcha. Gotcha?
Speaker 1 (54:06):
Well that's uh, you know, probably a blessing and uh
in that respect, but yeah, you know, the the trivelness
of the community is certainly something that can push people away,
I guess is the best way way to put it.
How do you find yourself kind of dealing with with
(54:27):
that kind of rampant Uh, It's it's almost like they're
they're being as bad as skeptics and debunkers that don't
believe in this stuff. You know. Sometimes you know, it's
uh seems counterintuitive, uh, to the whole process in learning
the truth about what's going on.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
Yeah, so somebody attacks me personally rather than attack as
what I'm saying and proves what I'm saying wrong, then
I know something is strange. You know, some some some
(55:11):
kind of like cult like behavior is going on. If
they prove me wrong, I'm open to that, you know,
and come with proof, come with facts, show me, Uh,
you know that my view on something is off, I'm
open to that. I think everybody should be open to
that sort of stuff, but not every everybody is. And
(55:36):
you're right, it does harm the subject when people don't
get along and you know, reach across the aisle and
you know, have an olive branch and discuss things in
a civil way. Oftentimes though, where somebody shows how poor
they are at communicating their ideas and you know they
(56:00):
easily get offended and start attacking rather than discussing. You know,
that just shows me who these people are. And I'm
not against blocking and moving on. I think that's an
important thing. You don't there's people that master arguing at
(56:21):
a lower level of discourse.
Speaker 1 (56:25):
And.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
You know you're not going to be able to just
if you sync to their level and you argue at
that level, then you're you're probably going to lose a
because they've mastered it and be you're not going to
convince them because they are suffering from like cognitive dissonance.
They basically have their mind made up and no new
ideas or thoughts are uh, you know, have the ability
(56:50):
to enter their mind. That's that.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
Yeah, yeah, well it's definitely a thing where you, yeah,
walk away. You don't need to engage the trolls. Don't
feed the trolls everyone. Yeah, now you've got this, uh,
one of your one of your films, I wanted to
ask about this. One of your films is on the
(57:15):
the TR three B, the triangular craft, And obviously there
was a there was a flap of sightings in like
Belgium in the early nineties. I saw a black triangle.
As my listeners know, I won't go into too many details,
but you know, back in like nineteen ninety seven, I
(57:36):
saw a black triangle, three lights on each each corner.
I always forget. It's like the uh, not the Apex,
but the angle. And driving home from the movies one
night with my brother when we drove right under this thing.
It was probably bigger than the seven forty seven hovering
silently above the tree line.
Speaker 3 (57:57):
Crazy, right.
Speaker 1 (57:58):
That was kind of the moment where I was like, Okay,
there's something weird going on here. But you know a
lot of people say that this is uh, this is
military uh, reversed engineer tech. Maybe what's your what did
you find? What's your perspective after looking into that?
Speaker 2 (58:17):
Yeah, So I think that that documentary I was really
exploring the idea of, like, had we made a breakthrough
reverse engineering, you know, possibly a non human intelligence craft
and cracking the gravity barrier, you know, being able to
fly our own test craft that propelled it propels itself
(58:42):
on some kind of like anti gravitic effect and with
the the t R three excuse me with a TR
three B. What is said about that craft is that
it propels itself with a m FD, a magnet magnetic
field disruptor that lowers the weight of the craft up
(59:03):
to ninety eight ninety nine percent, So it takes something
super heavy and makes it light as a feather. And
supposedly with that craft, it's rumored to have its maiden
flight in nineteen seventy nine, maybe not, you know, just
going up and down, but not going you know, into
(59:26):
space or you know, across the planet like they possibly
could do now. But this craft had this rotating superconductor
in the middle of it in a circular uh sort
of engine, this MFD thing, and that would rotate. It
(59:50):
was like a liquid cooled supposedly mercury based revolving fluid,
and it created this effect of lift and low weight.
And then on the corner of each angle or you know,
(01:00:13):
vertices to the triangular craft was a more conventional hydrogen
propelled propelled thruster to turn the craft and maybe move
it a certain way forward sometimes who knows. And you know,
(01:00:36):
that craft was rumored by a gentleman who really started
speaking about it in the UFO community, was named Edgar
Rothschild Fouchet. He became famous in the nineties for coming
out being like a whistleblower and speaking about this craft,
(01:00:56):
saying that he worked at Area fifty one and they
were working on that type of craft there while he
was there and for longer. It's supposedly a massive craft though,
like you know, something akin to what was seen over
(01:01:19):
the Phoenix, Arizona area, like the Phoenix Lights in the
nineteen nineties and the craft actually that the Phoenix Lights
was much bigger in size, but it was supposed to
be bigger. It was supposed to carry almost like an
apartment's worth of people, apartment building worth of personnel, a tank,
(01:01:41):
you know, it could carry heavy things and many things,
and it was supposed to be rumored to be a
space doc. So TR we could see in military code
(01:02:03):
names as like technical tactical reconnaissance or something. Right supposedly,
we do know of a t R three A which
was featured in a popular popular mechanics article back in
the day. But that was supposed to run on traditional
(01:02:23):
fossil fuels, you know, or jet propulsion technology. But it
was meant to fly over Iraq in the Iraqi War,
the Gulf War, and uh it had this black manta shape,
this sort of curved black black triangle sort of shape.
(01:02:48):
And so the theory is that that might have been
used during the Iraq War. It might have been a
smaller version of it, It might have been something that
was allowed to be known out there. But the t
R three B is the anti gravity version of it.
There was this much larger object used to transfer people
(01:03:14):
and things to space secretly, and you know, It kind
of makes one wonder if there is a secret space
program that exists in which, you know, went beyond the
Apollo age moon landings and you know these tin cans
(01:03:39):
that were launched into space via liquid fuel rockets, but
instead something like this, a big black triangle was carrying
out those missions, going to planets, maybe carrying out research
in space.
Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
Wow, well that's it's a very comprehensive overview of the
TR three B.
Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
Thanks for that.
Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
I feel like I feel like you're the first person
that's ever come on the show that's actually like gone
through all the details there.
Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
That's great. That's great.
Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Well, it looks like we're at the top of the
hour here, Darcy, before we go, Do you have any
new projects on the horizon for twenty twenty five that
you can talk about?
Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Yeah, I have a documentary, I have two docu series.
I'm starting to do more series. I have one that
came out in October of last year called Dark Alliance.
It's about the the scandalous story of individuals who came
(01:04:52):
to the UFO community and started like suing everybody and stuff.
Have you ever heard of like Corey Good Yeah, Yeah,
so that Dark Alliance that's actually available on Amazon Prime,
Roku two b TV. It's a two part docu series.
We spoke to people that were embroiled in this lawsuit
and stuff with him, the former head of production over
(01:05:14):
at Gaya, Leon I sorry, I'm Jay Widner, Hollywood actor
Leon Isaac Kennedy, Jordan Satherer who worked with them on
the documentaries they produced and stuff. And that's been out
for just a little bit. Now there's another one I
did on the abduction case of Pasca Goula nineteen seventy
(01:05:39):
three with Calvin Parker and Charlie Hickson. That's a four
part docu series that's available on Roku, Amazon Prime actually
YouTube movies if people are you know, go to the
premium side of YouTube, and that's a four part docu series.
(01:06:01):
Each episode is about an hour long. The first episode
is Charlie Hickson's experience and his perspective until he passed away.
Then the second is Calvin Parker. The third episode is
Maria Blair and Jerry Blair, these new witnesses that came
forward that said they were on the other side of
(01:06:21):
the river that were abducted that night. And then the
final episode, the fourth is a story about Philip Mantle,
the British individual who kind of narrates and hosts the
whole story throughout the episodes, a bit of a biography
on him, his UFO experience and how he got into
(01:06:44):
covering the abduction phenomenon and stuff from England. And then
I'm working on a series that came out in January
of this year. And then I'm working on a new
Documenttrey that's about an hour and forty minutes, and that's
got Thomas Jane, the actor, Russell targ Paul Smith, Tracy Dolan,
(01:07:14):
Chris Ramsey, UH, and Jeff Tarrant, a bunch of people
that are discussing and trying to get to the bottom
of esp extrasensory perception, telepathy UH and the non human
intelligence linked to that. How every time we hear about,
(01:07:35):
you know, abductees or experiencers that see craft or meet
the entities that came off of it or whatever, it
seems that this common thing is reported, which is a
telepathic communication or the ability for humans to be psychic
(01:07:59):
and apparent be them too. Maybe that's this like universal language.
Who knows, but yeah, that should be out this year
later this year. I'm just kind of working on.
Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
That now awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Well, that's a lot of a lot of great stuff
for everyone to check out before we go. Where's the
best place to find you and your work online?
Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
Yeah, my studio site is ocult journeys dot com. People
can check out the film posters, the trailers, synopsis, and
if they click on the poster, it will usually go
through to a site that they can watch the film
for free or near free. And then yeah, I'm on
(01:08:47):
Twitter as o culd journeys at ocult Journeys, Instagram, Darcyweir Films,
and then just myself on Facebook and I'm also on
TikTok at o cult Journeys, So yeah, feel free to
connect them. Always down to chat.
Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Great, Well, thanks so much again for hanging out today, Darcy.
It was a pleasure to have you on. We'll have
to do it again sometime.
Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Thanks man, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
Yeah, no problem, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Thanks again to Darcy Weir for coming onto the show today,
and thank you all for hanging out and listening. Definitely
check out all of his work, his films and all
of that. He's one of the real ones putting in
the footwork and covering these stories of UFOs and high
strangeness that seems to continually happen around us out there.
Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
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Beyond is back. Darcyweir was able to hang out for
a little while longer to chat with me about the
secret space program. It's a wild topic, a wild conversation,
so you won't want to miss it, so members, stick
with me and for everyone else, make sure to take
care of yourselves and each other and keep it strange.
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All right, Members, welcome back to Strangeology Beyond your exclusive
portion of the show. Today's episode with mister