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December 19, 2025 41 mins

You save the money, you find the money, and then you invest it because we all owe it. But it's the opportunity to invest those savings that will ultimately generate long-term wealth through a tax strategy.

In this episode of Strength in Numbers, Marcus Crigler sits down with BEC CFO tax partner Kaden Hackney to explain why the mindset of paying zero taxes can actually slow down wealth creation.

Listen as they break down the real purpose of tax strategy. From depreciation and real estate investing to understanding when not to eliminate taxes, this conversation brings clarity to one of the most misunderstood parts of running a successful real estate business. Enjoy the show!

You’ll Learn How To:

  • Why paying zero taxes is often a bad financial decision
  • Understand the difference between tax preparation and tax strategy
  • Use real estate and depreciation to legally reduce taxes
  • Build a tax strategy that supports long-term financial freedom

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

(03:25) Kaden’s path into tax strategy and real estate

(05:17) What makes strong business partnerships work

(07:30) Why company culture and accountability matter in growth

(09:33) Tax preparation vs. tax strategy

(13:04) Tax savings only matter if you invest them

(16:21) Compliance risk and why documentation matters

(18:07) Key takeaways from the new tax law changes

(18:42) Hiring your kids as a legitimate tax strategy

(22:55) Tax rates as an important part of tax strategy

(24:06) Why 15–18% is the sweet spot for most entrepreneurs

(25:30) The danger of chasing zero taxes

(27:09) Bonus depreciation and real estate strategies explained

(29:12) Choosing between selling deals or holding rentals

(31:45) What a cost segregation study actually does

(32:27) How tax benefits influence which assets to buy

(35:35) Alternative tax-efficient investments beyond direct ownership

(37:30) Understanding tax-efficient investments at higher income levels

Who This Episode Is For:

  • Real estate entrepreneurs who are earning high incomes
  • Business owners who are tired of surprise tax bills
  • Anyone trying to turn tax savings into real wealth

Why You Should Listen:

Paying zero taxes might sound good, but it’s rarely the smartest move. This episode explains why intentional tax planning, paired with the right investments, creates far better outcomes over time.

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