CrossFit Champion Jason Khalipa on Fitness, Family, and Faith | Plus This Week’s Top Health & Fitness News - Stronger Weekly

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All right, all right, welcome, everybody to the Stronger Weekly
Podcast. I'm your host, Jesse Carriage.
I thank you so much for being here this week.
Certainly hope you're enjoying the start of the fall season.
I know that I am. Give me the pumpkin, give me the
cool weather, give me the football, give me all of the
things. So hopefully your fall is off to
a happy and healthy start. We've got some great health and

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fitness headlines this week. By great, I mean, there's some
encouraging studies and just things that are happening that
we should all be encouraged about.
Also, some somewhat controversial things in the
world of health and fitness across America and the globe.
But what I'm super stoked about is our guest this week, Jason
Khalipa joins the podcast. Jason, if you don't know who he
is, he at one point was the world CrossFit champion.

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He's competed in the CrossFit Games for a while now.
Jason does a lot of different things, which is with his
massive platform of those. He has a Train Hard fitness app.
He does a Train Hard club locally near him where every
Saturday morning, 6:00 AM, sometimes up to 100 guys get
together and not just train, butalso just grow in community, be

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honest, be vulnerable and work hard together.
Should I say train hard togetherto be stronger and better
protectors, providers, husbands,fathers, friends, all the
things. He's also got a really
successful podcast called the Jason Khalifa Podcast, which I
love and just puts out all this really great, informative and
encouraging content across the Internet and across the world

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just to help people be healthierand happy.
So that's just some of the things that Jason does, but I'm
super stoked that he's joining the show.
But as always, we're going to kick off this episode with the
top five health and fitness headlines.
Let's dive in. So your top health and fitness
headline of the week. If you haven't heard, you'll
hear it now. Big news around Tylenol,

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vaccines and autism. So President Trump used the
White House podium this week to suggest prenatal Tylenol and
childhood vaccines have contributed to rapidly rising
autism diagnosis claims that energized the Make America
Healthy Again known as Maha coalition alongside HHS
Secretary Robert F Kennedy Junior AKARFK Junior.

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But his announcements alarmed medical experts, so multiple
outlets reporting, including ABCNews reports Trump urged
pregnant women to avoid Tylenol,even as the FDA's own guidance
is more nuanced. Calling this topic a quote
ongoing debate, scientists emphasized the evidence is
inconclusive and warrants further studies warning that

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avoiding needed fever treatment in pregnancy can be harmful for
both mom and baby. GOP Senator Bill Cassidy, a
gastroenterologist, pressed HHS to quote release the new data
and said, quote, the preponderance of evidence shows
this is not the case, warning women to be left with no options
to manage their pain during pregnancies.

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And what does it mean for you listening if you're pregnant or
planning to be pregnant? Talk to you, Ruby, talk to your
OBGYN. Don't rely on press conference
sound bites. It's too early.
Use clinical guidance on fever management and vaccine timing.
Your next health and fitness headline.
A huge breakthrough in treating Huntington's disease.

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BBC reporting doctors say Huntington's disease has been
successfully treated for the first time, the first time ever
with gene therapy that slowed progression of the disease by
75% in trial patient Professor Sarah Tabrizi, who led the UK
arm at UCL, called the results quote spectacular and said a

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decline that normally takes one year would now take up to 4.
Quoting we never in our wildest dreams would have expected a 75%
slowing to this catastrophic disease.
The one time neurosurgical treatment uses a viral vector to
silence the toxic Huntington protein.
This could transform care for a fatal inherited brain disorder

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and opens the door to preventative traits in gene
positive people before symptoms appear.
So if you know someone or you are suffering with Huntington's
disease, talk to your doctor, ask about these ongoing trials
because there could be hope for you or a loved one.

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Next up, personality traits could be linked to longevity and
health span. So new research in the Journal
of Psychosomatic Research found that specific personality
nuances such as being organized,responsible, hard working and
active are associated with lowermortality risk.
Independent of age and health, Professor Renee Motis said that

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these specific traits may be easier to change than the broad
big 5 domains saying quote. These small, somewhat trainable
behaviors, routines, reliability, staying active,
stack up over years and could actually be increasing your
health span. So don't overlook the importance
of being organized, responsible,hard working and active, not

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just to be productive because you could literally be here on
this earth longer. Your next health and fitness
headline has to do with dehydration and a linked to
stress response. So a Liverpool John Moores
University study in the Journal of Applied to Physiology showed
that under hydrated adults had a50% higher cortisol spike during

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a standard lab stress test versus well hydrated peers.
Lead professor Neil Walsh from the study said, quote cortisol
is the body's primary stress hormone.
Under hydrated subject in the study showed a 50% higher
exaggerated cortisol reactivity,which is associated with an
increased risk of get this heartdisease, diabetes and

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depression. Team member doctor Daniel Kashi
added quote, keeping a water bottle close could be a good
habit with potential benefits toyour long term health,
especially when confronted with stressful situations.
So if you're going to be stressed and you're dehydrated,
what this study is saying is that you'll be 50% more
stressed. So we all know hydration is key.

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This study shows for more reasons than we might have
assumed. So make sure we drink up, keep a
water bottle nearby, hydrate, hydrate, hydrate.
And your last health and fitnessheadline of the week has to do
with alcohol. If you followed the show for the
almost two years, you know I like to beat up on alcohol
whenever I can. So a landmark study from the

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University of Oxford, Yale in Cambridge, impressive places
published in BMJ Evidence based Medicine found that any alcohol
use increases dementia risk evenat moderate level.
So BBC News reports the analysiscombined data from over a half a
million people, plus genetic evidence from more than 2.4

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million participants across 45 studies.
So lots of people and lots of studies.
Lead author Doctor Anya Topawalla of Oxford said the
findings challenge quote the common belief that low levels of
alcohol are beneficial for brainhealth, adding that quote even
light or moderate drinking may increase the risk of future

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dementia and that cutting consumption could be a major
prevention tool. So according to this, there
appears to be no safe threshold for alcohol when it comes to
protecting the brain from futuredamage.
So look, whether you drink a little bit, you drink often,
you're a heavy drinker, this should be alarming for you.
So take it easy out there with the alcohol guys.

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And that's it for the health andfitness headlines for this week.
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All right, everybody, Special guests of the week is here.
It's an honor and privilege to have the powerful Jason Khalifa
on the Stronger Weekly podcast What's up Jason?
Hey, good, good. What afternoon?
Yeah, it's good to good to be here.
Thanks for having me. Most people know who you are,

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but for those who don't, how would you?
Cuz you've done so many things, how would you kind of introduce
yourself? Who is Jason Khalifa?
I mean, I think first and foremost I'm a husband.
My wife and I met when we were 15 and we've been together ever
since. So we've been either 25 years.
I'm a dad of two. I have a 14 year old daughter

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and a 11 year old son. I'm AI call myself a fitness
entrepreneur, lifetime competitor.
I competed professionally in CrossFit for a long time, got
into jiu jitsu recently. I'm last couple years been into
shooting sports. But I've I've, I've owned gyms,
I've operated gyms. I still own gyms.
I've that kind of stuff. So fitness entrepreneurship.

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I've written a book, I host a podcast.
So I'd say in general though, I'm just a dude who hosts weekly
men's clubs who's on a mission to help elevate guys.
And a lot of things have taken me to that point, but that's
where I'm currently at. And it's a, it's a strong
mission of mine and, and, and that's what I'm going.
To do when you talk about showing up, your family, your

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faith and community, why do you think it's so important for men
to focus on these roles now? Or why is it important in
general? Father, husband, protector,
provider. Yeah, I mean, I think to clarify
what I mean by protect and provide, what I mean is my #1

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duty as a husband, as a father, is to protect and provide.
And what that means to me is theability to run, jump, climb,
Sprint. Like you have three kids.
If one of those kids is running towards the street, you need to
have the physical capability to go, to go grab them.
My son years ago fell into a bonfire.
He got pushed by his sister on accident.

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It's a long story, but I was right there and boom, I left up,
left, up and jumped them over right.
Having the physical capability to do that I think is critical.
Sure. Is there fighting involved?
Do I grapple, Do I stand up fight?
Sure. But the likelihood of me getting
a fight is very, very slim. But the likelihood of me having
to protect in those ways, I think is, is very common for

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most guys listening to this show.
And I want to be able to enhancetheir fitness, be able to get
there. The provide piece is even more
important, I'd say, or just as important.
I think a lot of people look at that in terms of finances, and I
think finances are very important, very important.
I think if you train hard, I think you're going to show up
better at work. But what I also mean is the
ability to provide experiences for your kids.

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And I don't know how many parents I could talk to who are
tired after work, who can't go do things with their kids
because they lack the physical fitness to be able to go do it.
And I never want anybody that I engage with to be limited on
what they can do for their kids to protect and provide because
of their fitness. You should be able, if your son
comes home, like your kids as they get older.
Dad, let's go do this. Dad, let's go do that.

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It's like, yeah, let's go do it.I don't want to be limited
because I'm too tired or physically I can't even do it.
Like my son comes home from school every day.
Let's go to this and I want to be able to do it.
So that's what I mean by protectand provide.
And, you know, and then obviously being a good husband,
I think is, is the priority number one.
You know, my wife and I, as far as I'm concerned, like we burn

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the boats at 14. Like that's it.
I mean, when we got married in 2009, like we made a commitment
to each other and I'm going to do everything in my power to
continue that commitment becauseafter the kids get older, it's
just back to us anyways. So keeping date nights, keeping
our relationship strong is the number one priority so that our

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children can see what a good relationship looks like.
And that once they're in collegeor off from home, my wife and I
still have like a relationship. And we didn't just, you know,
get engulfed in the kids and forget about us.
And obviously there's seasons toeverything and what not, but I
think that parents need to work really hard at keeping their
relationship strong. And if you're not engaging

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regularly on date nights, you'rejust missing out.
You're you have to start that tomorrow.
Hey man, where'd you learn this?Was this?
Was this modeled for you and your household?
Yeah, you know, my, my mom and dad, they definitely grew up
different than I did. You know, my dad came from Iran.
My mom, she lost her father really young to a drunk driver.
So her background was just different and unique.

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But yes, definitely they, they raised me in a very loving,
caring, supportive family with their relationship being, I
think from my view vantage point, very good.
I think for my wife and I, when our daughter got sick with
leukemia, one of the first pieceof advice we heard was to keep
date nights. And at the time I didn't really

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understand it. Frankly.
I, I, I, I, I, I couldn't relateto the, the nurse told me that
she's like, Hey, keep your date nights.
I'm just thinking like, lady, like, what are you talking
about? And it turned out to be like one
of the most valuable piece of advice I've ever received
because it allowed my wife and Iwhen we were in the hospital for
months and months and months to break out, go date, sometimes

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have too many cocktails, but that's what we needed and and
recharge and go back to the to the to the hospital.
So yeah, I think it's critical. Yeah, shout out to frontline
healthcare workers, but how longago was your, if you don't mind
talking about it? How long ago was your daughter
diagnosed with leukemia? She was diagnosed in 2016, So
what, nine years ago? And the way that form of

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leukemia is treated is it's a 2 1/2 year treatment plan.
So it's a pretty long time to get treated.
It's a lot of ups and downs, lotof lessons learned, lot of very
difficult times, learned a lot, grew a lot.
And then after treatment, then five years after, they consider
you cured. So she's in the cured stage.

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But that was like a whole, I mean, you know, and I think back
on it, you know, I was 3030 maybe, yeah, 30 when when, when
she was diagnosed. And the blessing there is that
I'm going to be able to have that perspective for the rest of
my life, right. Like I gained so much
perspective to that experience. I I can't even begin to tell you

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how much that changed my life. And yeah.
What you when you were saying I just wrote it down, you said so
many lessons learned and it sounds like perspective.
If you had to kind of whittle itdown to maybe 234 or just free
flow, what is some of the most valuable perspective you and
your family took from that experience?

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I mean, I'd say to try and frontload as much as you can when
life is good, you know, I believe that life is going to be
hard. Like the expectation is that
life is going to be hard and youneed to do whatever is in your
power to prepare yourself today to overcome life's challenges.
And that means having good relationships.
That means working hard to develop a financial hedge.
It means showing up at the gym and making sure you take care of

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yourself physically. All of those things I think are
very important. So one of the big lessons I
learned is like, I'm grateful wehad locked in our relationship,
we had locked in on finances, wehad locked in our fitness.
So when this struggle did hit, we were as best prepared as
possible. That's like #1 #2 you learn a
lot about family. You learn a lot about family and
support and just how important it is you.

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You learn what it's like to connect with your spouse on a
very, very deep, deep level. And that could only drive you.
You can drive you closer. You can separate you.
Like while we were in the hospital, I witnessed a lot, I
saw a lot of relationships fall apart, which was really hard to
see. And I saw a lot of relationships

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come together. And for us, fortunately, we
both, we both had the same entire like my wife the night
that my daughter was diagnosed. We're in the hospital, whatever.
And they tell you the news and obviously it's, it's very gut
wrenching, right? And I get the news and I start
crying, which I don't really like cry very much.
After that, I started crying a lot more, but I don't cry very

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much. And you know, I go in, I and it
was my wife and my father-in-lawin the room.
He just so happened to be there.It's like 2:00 AM.
So I take my wife Ashley outsideand I'm like, hey, look, this is
what happened. And you know, she's just a rock.
She's just a rock star. She's like, she's like, all
right. You tell our family what's going
on and you tell everybody, there's no tears in front of our

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daughter. We're going to beat this.
And then walk back into the room.
It was like a it was like a Super Bowl speech.
That's her first reaction. First reaction, I swear to you.
I mean, like, like first reaction was exactly that,
verbatim. Hey, we're going to beat this.
Like you tell our family there'sno tears in front of our
daughter and walk back in. I remember feeling like, like,
like a, like John Matt, you know, like, like I felt like,

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you know what I mean? Like, but I'm a on a whole
different level, right? Because this is, this is, this
is real life. This is, this is serious.
And yeah, she's jump started it and it, it changed the way I
approach things. And we connected through it.
So I'd say at a highest level, Isaw a lot of empathy, a lot of
empathy from a lot of people. You got to see the good side of

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humanity. You know, like a week in the
diagnosis, I was like, really broken.
Like just broken. It's devastating.
What's that? This is devastating.
I can't even. I can't even imagine.
Getting yeah, I was just broken,right.
And I'm, I'm, I'm like a pretty generally like pretty positive
guy. And I'm out and I'm like, I'm
grabbing a coffee from the shop.And this guy could tell man,
like he we're in like the ICU type area.

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Like we, he could tell like, youknow, we're not like we're not
here for a, you know, pinky. And the guy's like, you know, he
just some older guy just put hisarm, you know, like just kind of
like, hey, man, whatever you're going through, it's going to be
good or something like that. And then, and then Fast forward,
right. We would take my daughter after
she lost her hair to restaurantsand you'd watch the way people
would react. And like, I'm, I'm not kidding.

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Just like, if you don't believe in humanity, you take a sick kid
anywhere. And I'm telling you, you could
have a, a gangster of this or that.
It doesn't matter who they are. Just roll out the red carpet for
you, man. And it, and it really redefines
how, how it just it, I can't speak highly enough about it.
It made me feel a very certain way.

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And now if I would ever see that, I'm going to roll out the
red carpet times 10 because of the way it made me feel, you
know? Hey, man, yeah, absolutely.
So at that point, did did you and Ashley both have strong
faith at the time? I don't know if you'd say
strong. I'd say that it was theirs.
It was, it was present. I don't know if I'd say it was

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strong, but I really tried to regain it.
I tried to build it while we were in that that moment, You
know, they had like a non denominational Chapel there at
the hospital and I visit it everyday and I was seeking, I
was searching, I was praying I was in in I was I was true about
what I was doing. I was I was really trying to
create a connection, a relationship.

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I think that Ashley kind of. Worked it in her own way, but I
wouldn't say that was like a shared thing that we did
together. I was kind of like on my path,
she was on hers and it was working great, right?
It just wasn't something we did together.
Yeah, yeah. This episode's about you, not
me, but I'll just, I'll just relate with you.
I lost my father as a teenager to AIDS.
So I'd spent some time in the ICU there.

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And then unexpectedly, you know,a couple decades later, I lost
my stepfather, who essentially stepped up in a huge way to
replace my father. I shouldn't say that replace,
but you know, be there for me and I lost him and I spent some
time in ICU and, and I'll just say sometimes, you know, not to
go too preachy, but God can use pain and struggle and hurt and
challenge to reach people. You know, and I think your

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comment about how like the humanity that comes out when a
child is sick like that, even though of course you're, you're
desperate and you're afraid and you're doing everything camp for
your daughter. There is some some good that
comes when people struggle and you see that humanity kind of
come out. So man, it's, it's a beautiful
thing. It did start to change the way I
looked at some people, right? Like, I mean, I'm telling you it
was, it was, you know, because social media has done a lot of

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positive and a lot of negative. And I think there's a lot of
screaming, a lot of yelling. And, and I, I watched just, you
know, it was, it was special. It was, it was special what
people did for us. And I'll never forget how that
made me feel, you know? Yeah, so they regained my my
faith in humanity. In humanity.
Amen. I love it.
I love it. I'm gonna I'm gonna kind of pull

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up and go to a post that you recently wrote and it was called
The reason most men fail. What are what are some of the
biggest traps or mistakes that men are falling into today that
would make them fail? I mean, I think that they get
stuck in like they need to cut the typically it's going to be
the crutch, right? They're going to end up having

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some type of crutch, whether that's drugs, alcohol, women,
social media, pornography, you name it.
I think that more times than not, what I'm noticing and I, I
serve many, many men. I, I engage with many, many guys
on a regular basis, whether it'straining in the garage or, you

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know, every week I host a free men's club.
I think tomorrow we'll have 100 people show up and we'll grab
coffee after. I would say that more times than
not, what's holding a lot of guys back from reaching their
potential is, is I, I think 1 isthat they feel like they can't,
they don't have any outlets. They feel very isolated and they
need to be surrounding themselves with more men.
I think that's very important. And by doing so, they get

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different support. Like I was actually talking to
somebody about this this morning.
When a woman, like when my wife is talking about one of her
problems, she's not necessarily looking for me to solve it or
say anything. She just wants me to listen and
just listen. She doesn't want me to try and
say, what you got to do is this.When a guy is sharing a problem
with another guy, typically it'slike, hey, I'm having this

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problem at home, right? And he's looking for insight and
feedback and in a direction. It's just a different way of
looking at it. And by the way, I'm totally
using general terms here. Of course there's exceptions,
but I feel like a lot of guys, they need to be surrounded.
Iron sharpens iron shoulder to shoulder and they need to have
another guy be like, dude, like you got to go take ownership of

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this. Like this is the problem and
that might be the jolt they need.
I think that's ultimately what'sholding a lot of guys back.
I mean, I had a guy the other day, we were at the men's club
and we will grab coffee after and he just clearly said he's
like, look, man, I have an addiction to porn.
It's been really difficult for me.
And there was like 6-7 guys there who we've created a very

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strong relationship. This group of them.
There was also like another 30 guys, but they weren't in that
conversation. And guys, instead of like, you
know, you're a dirtbag, you're this, you're that, it's more
like, hey, man, have you had a conversation with your wife?
Have you done this? Have you done that?
And I think that there's definitely this shame, this
escape, this feeling like you can't be vulnerable or talk to

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somebody because a lot of guys, they're just not thinking about
the most guys schedule. They go to work, they come home,
they have their family or whatever is going on.
You know, guys don't do a great job at all of connecting, going
out to lunch, going to coffee. I mean, I can't tell you the
last time that a guy and I like and I have a lot of friends.

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Like I can't tell you last time I was like, hey man, you want to
go to lunch together? It just, I mean, it's very
uncommon, right? But women have lunches all the
time and they do a great job fostering that connection.
Now, I work out with guys every single day.
I connect with guys all the time.
I go on trips with them, I do things.
But that's ultimately what I think is happening is that they

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get in this cycle where they just feel like, dude, I'm going
to work, I'm going home, I'm going to work, I'm going home.
I lack any form of connection. So I'm getting it this escape by
using these different tools and I think a great way for them to
solve it. Dude, just go work out with
another dude and you'll be shocked after you're done
working out what type of conversation happens.
I, I can't remember last time that you know, someone said,

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let's go grab coffee and I'm like, no, because it feels like
I, it's like almost like not productive it tangibly speaking,
right? It just feels kind of like a
threat. My wife this week, she went on a
double date with kiddos to a park.
She grabbed coffee with a friend.
She had her mom over like she's intentional and she enjoys it.
What did I do? My buddy showed up two days in a

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row at five O 5 in the morning and we jumped in the cold
plunge. We worked out together.
We were done by 6:30 and then we're off our ways.
And I'm going to tell you, Jason, man, it felt like it felt
great. Like you talk as you're working
out, you connect. But if, for me anyway, it just
feels like I'm multitasking and I'm doing two things at once and
it just works, you know what? I.
Mean well guys like to be guys like to have like purpose they

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like to they like to feel like they're on a mission right like
like slaying the dragon type of thing they like to feel like
there's purpose to it and like this morning another guy and I
sell from mind pump. We did a 2 hour podcast while
working out. So we hit weights and podcasts
and that that, that that conversation really flowed well

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because we're like, we're pumping iron.
We're getting after it and we'rehaving a conversation.
Same thing happens every day forme.
You know, I invite guys over, wetrain hard and then the coffee.
So to your point, I can't remember the last time I was
like, hey man, you want to go grab coffee?
But every week I go grab coffee with many men and I we sit down
and we talked for a long time, but it happens after the

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workout. And so I think, I think, you
know, the mission I'm on, just full transparency, is that I'm
on a mission to to get as many men as possible into a train
hard men's club or into a way for them to meet up with the
other guys so they can go shoulder to shoulder workout and
then go grab coffee. I think it's going to change.
I think it could change the nextgeneration.

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That's how powerful I feel aboutit.
I love it. So what is train hard?
Just explain that. So the my original business was
NC fit, Norcal fit, brick and mortar gym owners, all the
things. It was great.
It still is great. We still own gyms.
Train Hard was launched about 18months ago with really the
vision of helping men train so they can protect and provide.

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And I started a men's club about2 1/2 / 2 years ago where every
week for two years we've met in a parking lot.
And it started off with five guys and 10 guys and 15 guys and
30 guys and 40 guys. You know, last week we had 70
something. And I think tomorrow we'll have
100. And it's just been word of

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mouth. It's always free.
We bring sandbags. And I would, you know, one of
the things I'm about to do is put out on social media a like
Google form. And I'm going to ask for
people's e-mail location and phone number.
And I'm going to, I'm looking for captains.
I'm looking for guys who want tobe captains, not coaches, but
captains to run a club and not aclass.

(28:01):
This isn't about me telling you what to do, It's about me doing
it with you. And we're going to grab coffee
after that and we're going to get tons of clubs across the
country that are then going to impact the youth of this
country. And it's going to be phenomenal.
That's what we're doing. Nice.
I hope we can take that sound bite right there.
And I'm going to use that like ayear from now when we have, you
know, 100, you know, whatever. I'll send it to you, man.

(28:22):
I know we're recording right now, but you're sitting here
thinking, did you have, do you have a what'd you say?
Is it a coach or a captain? What'd you call it?
Yeah, we're not. We're not looking for coaches,
we're looking for captains. Yeah, you got a captain in
Northern Colorado yet? There you go.
No, you got it. See, And the reason why we want
captains, not coaches is because, you know, I've been
coaching for 20 years. I've met with the best coaches

(28:43):
in the world for CrossFit. I mean, I competed there for a
decade and coaches are great, awesome.
What we're looking for here is more of a locker room, more of a
team delivery. I want to have a captain who's
guiding the warm up, guiding theworkout, but they're just one of
the team, man. They're just, it's just, it
brings you back to high school sports, college sports.

(29:04):
And we're doing this together. And then afterwards, when we all
know how crappy we feel because we just did a bunch of burpees,
we're going to grab some coffee.One more question on that, what
do you guys all meet up at the same time?
Is your vision that like every single club would meet up at the
same time every week or you justkind of do it whenever you can?
This is the current vision and the current vision is to become
a captain, you either need to come to this current vision, you

(29:26):
need to come to one of the trainhard men's clubs that I'm
hosting in California or anywhere else that I go travel
to. So you could feel the culture
and the energy and what I'm trying to accomplish.
It's welcoming. It is, dude.
I don't care if you're £500. I don't care.
At our clubs, we have a group ofguys that are in a
rehabilitation for being in likegang life.

(29:47):
We have another group for drug life and we have billionaires
that are tech tycoons. And I don't care who you are,
where you come from, how out of shape you are.
We welcome everybody. That's got to be the spirit.
And there's no winner, there's no loser.
There's not even a range of motion.
Hey, the goal is to kind of get deep on a squat.
If you only go halfway, I don't care.
We're just here to train hard toget after it and then connect.

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And so that that's the the culture is number 1.
And we're looking for captains who could bring that culture to
life and, and chaperone it. Like, like to really champion
that. And then, you know, my
recommendation is Saturday mornings at 6:00 AM.
But, you know, I don't care whenpeople do it as long as they're

(30:31):
doing it. I'm going to put out a workout
every week. We do it every Saturday at 6:00
AM in the same parking lot and people can kind of figure it out
from there. I love it.
You heard it first here on the air.
If you're looking to join the Northern Colorado train hard
group, reach out to hopefully ifI qualify your your captain,
Jessie Carajet, send me some info.
You got your first. I don't know if I'm your first,

(30:52):
but. I, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I got
to get you on the, the Google Sheet.
But no, seriously, it's, it's, it's, it's something I feel
deeply drawn to. I feel, I feel like I'm on a
mission to, you know, looking atlike the proverb iron sharpens
iron 2717. Like dude, I feel like I feel
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Some of your content that I I listened to is one of your
podcasts. You talked about advice to your
son. I just, I just freaking love
talking about parenting. I, I absolutely love it.
I'm in it right now, you know that.
But in that episode you basically tried to distill down
like, like what? What lessons can I should I give
to my in this case, you're talking about your son,

(32:21):
especially as he moves towards adulthood.
But how would you for any parents listening, mom or dad,
right? What would those lessons be?
What should we be teaching our children's as they get to
prepare to go out into this increasingly complicated world?
Yeah, I mean, I have, I have my list of 10, but I think at the

(32:43):
end of the day here, I'll, I'll tell you my 10.
These are the 10 that I want to write for my son.
Find your queen. What that one's all about is,
you know, finding your the, the ride or die.
Like they're the person that is just going to have your back no
matter what, because life is going to be hard, business is
going to be hard. And when you have someone behind

(33:03):
you on your side who's always got your back, no matter what,
it's like a superpower for a guy.
And so find your queen or king in my kids case, whatever, train
hard, non negotiable, seize, getdegrees and that's it.
This kind of got some conflict when I put it up on on I put it

(33:24):
up one time on AIG story. People didn't understand what I
meant. What I meant to say was seize,
get degrees. And that's it means that in life
when you're going through school, there's a pass or fail.
Like if you get AC, you get you graduate, but that's like the
minimum standard. As long as you hit it, you get
the same degree. Like if you and I, if you got As
and I got CS, we still graduate from the same school with the

(33:46):
same degree. This is true, right?
But when you finish out of school, that's all it gets you.
After that, it's either you reach your potential or you
don't. There's no more of this.
Like OCS are enough to get me toagree.
You're either you're either working hard enough to make the
next step or you're not. So that's what I mean by CS get
degrees and that's it. How do you want to be

(34:07):
remembered? Embrace the AMRA mentality.
That's about being present and focused on whatever you're
doing. Say that one again, Jason, I'm
sorry. The AMRA mentality is this idea
of like kind of amrapping each facet of your life.
So when you're doing this with you, I'm focused on you.
When I'm moving on to the next thing, I'm focused on that
really being present and focusedon each area as you transition
through and. That's a book that you.

(34:28):
Read Yeah, I wrote the book. Yeah.
Yep. Find a tribe that Mom would want
over for dinner. That's all about just
surrounding yourself with peoplethat you would feel confident
when they go in front of your mom, like you're proud of them.
They're not sitting there, you know, jerking around, swearing
all over the place, talking bad about people.
They're good people with good spirit that shake a hand, that

(34:50):
say hello, that kind of stuff. As you get older, you'll
understand the power and need for faith.
Be open minded and stay curious.They can take everything but the
skills and education you have attained.
This one I got from my dad. My dad came from Iran with at
the time he came from Iran, he was good.
Then the revolution happened andmy grandparents came with

(35:13):
nothing. They came from being very rich
in the oil industry to having nothing.
So my dad from an early age would always teach me they can
take everything away from you but they can't take away your
education. He just kept saying that over
and over again and he thought about it more in terms of like
school. I think about it more in terms
of attaining knowledge. So whether that's through
school, trade school, this that it's just about being really

(35:36):
good at stuff. Do it right or don't do it.
Final one of the 10 embrace perspective, which means that,
you know, be mindful of different people's perspectives,
be open minded on your own perspective, that kind of stuff.
I'm going to, I'm going to double click on the faith one,

(35:57):
one second just to a little bit deeper and then we'll probably
land the plane geeking out on fitness a little bit, if that's
all right with you. Is that all?
Right double click you could youcould land the plane.
You can do whatever you want like.
All right, cool. So let's talk about faith for a
little bit because it's came up twice, but I want to talk about
a little essential. So I do listen to, you know,
some of your show, which again, why I love the Jason Khalifa
podcast. For anyone who hasn't checked it

(36:18):
out, please go check it out. It's amazing.
It's you and two of your friends, essentially.
And you call it the home team episodes, right?
Yeah, yeah, it's fantastic. But one of them, you talked
about faith. You shared that you grew up
Catholic. So far so correct.
Yeah. And then my words, definitely
not yours, but not as intentional around your faith.
But then more recently, this kind of reinvigoration around

(36:40):
it. I know that, you know, praying
out loud, at least when I the episode I listened to you, I've
been doing it for a year. That's made a huge difference in
your life. But can you talk a little bit
about maybe how and why faith came back into your life the way
that it did, and also how and why it matters to you now and
how it changes you? I don't know how it came back

(37:05):
into my life so strong, but it did.
Obviously that's just, that's just the pool, right?
That's the pool. I would say that all of my life,
you know, I grew up private Catholic schools, so I'm very
familiar with the church and there was a lot of religion and
not much of a relationship for many years.
And I think that when things gethard, you seek and then things

(37:28):
get better and you stop seeking,right?
And I think that I've had to remind myself to like, you know,
I, I've been seeking, I've been seeking a relationship.
I've always wanted that for manyyears, but it wasn't until a
couple of years ago that I really started saying to myself,
like, this is important to me. I and so I started reading books
like I don't have enough faith to be an atheist.

(37:49):
I started reading a bunch of different books like that really
sort of like open my mind and belike, and then I was like, you
know what, I just felt called and I'm going to start reading
the Bible. And this was probably, you know,
just like on my mind. I, I was, I was, I was listening
a lot of podcasts, whatever. And then I think what really
kind of like put me over the edge was the iron sharpens iron

(38:12):
story that I shared a little bitago on my Instagram where I had
heard of the proverb 2717 iron sharpens iron as one man
sharpens another. And it really resonated with me
just because of all the work I'mdoing.
And I'm in the sauna and I'm researching it and I want to
text a few friends and I decide not to.
Then I get out, it's early in the morning and I text only one

(38:33):
person. His name is Sal.
And I was like, look, man, this is just all my heart.
Just check this proverb out. And the guy goes, that's weird.
I'm literally wearing that shirtright now.
And he text me a picture of him wearing that shirt.
And like a Proverbs 2717 is not a popular shirt.
It's not like people are wearingthat shirt every day.

(38:54):
So I was like, OK, maybe God's speaking to me a little bit.
And that really stemmed. And then from there, I got sent
a Bible from a friend of mine that had the same inscription of
Proverbs 2717, and he knew nothing about anything else.
And so I chose on that day that when he sent me the Bible, I
chose to read from page one on. So I started at Genesis and I

(39:16):
just now got on the Romans. Starting with page one in the
Old Testament gets kind of funky, but it there's a lot to
learn and I've learned a lot. You know, I just finished Acts
prior to that, you know, John was really great.
Now I'm on Romans and I feel like that's going to be very
powerful. And I feel like my daily

(39:38):
schedule is Bible coffee burpee.So that what I, what I do every
morning because I wake up, I walk outside and I go, I go pray
out loud and I express my gratitude for all the blessings
that we have. I come back in, I make coffee, I
read the Bible and I go do burpees.
I do it every day and it just has really grounded me and I

(40:00):
feel like it's just making me a better person and I've been
sharing it more. I love it.
I love it. I find, and I've found that
often times it's the people around us that that can that can
bring us closer to God or to faith.
And those things you mentioned, obviously that they're not
coincidences. You know, you're thinking about
a verse your friend's wearing ATshirt.
Someone sends you a Bible. It's got the verse.
It's like, come on, like put thedots together.

(40:21):
And then and then I'll say that to say, like, I'm, I'm so
grateful that you're being open consistently with your faith and
how it makes a difference on youwithout like leading with that,
because I think you have the opportunity to reach so many
people, men in particular. And if they get to know you and
then they're inspired by you andthey understand that faith is a
big part of makes you who you are, and then they want to be

(40:43):
like you, they're going to be that much more open to it.
You know, So I think it's a beautiful thing, man.
So well done. Yeah.
I mean, one thing I will say is that there was a time where we
would interview a lot of guests on our podcast.
And I would say that a large majority, almost all of them of
high performing guys that I, I find to be living a good code.
I'd say almost all of them were were rooted in faith.

(41:06):
Almost all of them. And, you know, I heard a quote
this morning from a buddy of mine told me this quote.
I don't know. I got to go look this one up.
He said the average divorce rateis 50%.
OK, that's a, that's a fair statistic, right?
We know that. He said the average divorce rate
of a couple that prays together is less than 1%.
I've heard this. You've heard this too.

(41:29):
Yeah, I have. I don't know about the one.
I don't know if it was one percentage that I heard it, but
I heard something connecting couples that pray together with
a very low percentage. Of the yeah, I mean, 1% seems
really low nonetheless, you know, obviously that's, that's
that that's interesting to me, right?
Because I think, I think, I think ultimately as you get

(41:50):
older and as life throws you curveballs, whether it's, you
know, with, with your father, your stepfather or name anything
else that comes up, right? Leukemia.
Life, life, life will come up right.
And, and I think that when you have an anchor, when you can
really align with, with something, I think that if you

(42:10):
could deeply believe it, I don'tknow, I, I, there's something
powerful there. And I think more people explore
in the Bible and, and more people trying to live like Jesus
is never going to be a bad thing.
Like we need more of that than less because there's so much
dissension. But I think when people just try
and like, dude, they just try and live love, that's it.

(42:34):
Like, dude, if everybody just did that, we'd be, we'd be
crushing it, you know? We'd be good, but to your point
about 35 minutes ago, it's like,go on, go on social media and
love can be hard to find something.
Yeah, for sure, for sure. But you know, it's it's it's,
it's funny enough though, and I,I, I, I'm looking forward to
hearing about this Colorado chapter.
It's funny enough when you, whenyou, one of the ideals of this

(42:56):
trainer men's club is, is 1 handshake at a time.
And what I believe is just like,hey, we meet.
We, I shake your hand, I look you in the eye.
And I think that when you do that, dude, you might have
different political views than me.
You might have different religious views than me.
But I guarantee you we are more in common than we are not.
And I think that we've lost that.

(43:16):
And that's unfortunate. Yeah, I think we focus too much
on the differences, which are, you know, this much, but there's
so much we haven't. I agree.
And humanity being, you know, first and foremost, but but
yeah, absolutely so. And I'm serious about that
Northern Colorado chapter. I'm you're just getting to know
me. I'm dead serious about doing
that because I'm already doing it.
I'm already doing it. Just give me some structure and
some coaching and inspire me andI'm I'm in it, man.

(43:38):
All right. Do you mind if we talk about
fitness? No man, I I, I do not like
talking about fitness. Right, all right, cool.
So again, piggybacking off of a an awesome episode that you did
on your show, which was a study around which is the most
effective, my words, it was CrossFit style hybrid training,

(44:00):
strength and conditioning, right.
So just using that as a launching pad in your mind right
now, if someone like me who is focused on efficiency, does not
have a very, very specific competitive goal, wants to be
strong, wants to look good, be capable, right?

(44:23):
What would you recommend? I can't wait to see where we go,
what style, what. I mean, it's going to be, I mean
it's going to be our train hard daily program on the train Hard
app. I mean, I know it sounds like a
it's, it's it, it is a evolutionof my training, right?
So CrossFit was all about constantly varied function
movements at a high intensity. And the variance piece was broad

(44:43):
from Olympic weight lifting to sprinting to this, to that, to
handstand push ups to muscle UPS, whatever.
Where that's narrowed down for me now that I'm almost 40 is
just bang for the buck. So I work with a lot of
different law enforcement agencies and we service a lot of
different law enforcement agencies.
And my goal is to make those guys as physically capable as
possible so they can get home totheir families.

(45:04):
And if they're getting injured, that's not helping them.
If they're not training, that's not helping them either.
So my recommendation is our TH daily program is structured on
A5 day cycle. You could also do three days if
you want. We have some days that are kind
of like a cross training days where it's a little bit more
CrossFit ish, right? Where it's like some strength
work into like a 12 to 20 minuteconditioning piece.

(45:27):
We have some days a little bit more aerobic zone 2.
We have some days a little bit more strength focused
bodybuilding focus to kind of get some accessory lifts in.
And I think that's ultimately where I settle at is that if
someone was in their mid 30s to 40s fifties and they want to get
in better shape, I'd recommend to follow our like basically we
have Ath 5 nutrition principles.More or less what that comes

(45:50):
down to is trying to get in 45 grams of protein before 9:00 AM.
And the reason why it's so important is that when you front
load protein, it allows you to make better nutrition choices as
the day goes on. So what often times happens if
you don't eat breakfast and you just grab coffee is that midday
comes around and you're just starving.

(46:11):
So by prioritizing protein early, you can make better
nutrition choices as the day goes on.
I would focus on that. I would also say that if you're
not physically where you're at, where you want to be and you
don't look the way you want, take out alcohol for 45 days.
If you do that, it'll probably change your life.
And I don't mean to say that youcan't drink anymore.
I drink, but I've taken it out enough times that I know how to

(46:35):
reintroduce it with intentionality and not as a
crutch. So when you take it out for 45
days, you're going to listen, you're going to I, I promise
this is what's going to happen about 30 days.
Then you're going to be like, I get why this guy recommended
this because what you're going to learn is that there's been
many of times you don't really care if you have a drink or not.
And there's very few times whereman, you kind of wish you'd have

(46:57):
that glass one with your wife and kind of enjoy that moment
together. And those are the signs that
when you're done with this challenge, reintroduce that.
So it could become intentional and not just like, dude, I had a
hard day at work and I go pop 5 IP as right, that's that's where
you're getting in 1000 calories at night and you're not even
realizing it. So I'd say 45 grams of protein,
I'd say remove the alcohol for 45 days and follow our train

(47:19):
hard daily program on the train hard app.
I can send you a link for it andyou'll be rock solid.
If you want to really like ramp it up, start your morning off
the way I do by doing 45 burpeesas well.
And how long? Just as long as it takes the
burpees. Yeah, I mean, you can do 5
minutes of nine, you can do 3 minutes of 15.
There's a variety of ways you can do it.

(47:40):
But at the end of the day, the burpee just burns a lot of
calories and get your body through a full range of motion.
It's a great way to wake you up.But you know, I, I think to, to
summarize your question, I thinkI, I think I did that.
OK, But to summarize, every guy,every, every woman, definitely
every woman, everybody needs to be weight training.
This idea that a woman's going to get bulky or a guy is strong

(48:02):
enough. It's like, dude, everybody needs
to be touching an external load multiple times a week.
Everybody should be pushing, pulling and squatting once a
week. Looking at it in terms of the
like, what is the goal of the movement?
Not the muscles we're using, right?
So that's what is the function we're trying to perform, not

(48:24):
what muscle groups we're using. So look, in terms of function, I
want to be able to squat, press and lift for the rest of my
life. OK, well, let's do that, right?
I want to have good conditioningthat allows me to Sprint after
my kid, but also allows me to gorun a 10K if I want.
OK, let's do that. That's ultimately where where I
recommend and I would avoid things like the fringe stuff

(48:47):
unless that's something you desire to do, like handstand
push ups, muscle UPS, snatches. It's really unnecessary unless
that's something you desire to do.
That's a whole different case. Got it.
How important are barbells in general?
I think barbells are pretty important because they allow you
to kind of load. I don't think like if you were
like on a big budget, I'd recommend, you know dumbbells

(49:10):
before anything. But if you had a budget, I'd
recommend to get a barbell only because you could load it up
more than you can dumbbells. OK, I'm going to get your
reaction to some, I'll call thembuzzwords in the fitness world.
Thanks to people like Peter, Peter Otia and Andrew Huberman.
Excuse me, Doctor Otia and Dr. Huberman.
And I just want to get your kindof reaction to it, right?
So let's start with this one. How important is frequency in

(49:32):
terms of training your muscles frequently?
And I know like a lot of people say, you have to hit muscle
groups twice a week. How important is that in your
opinion? I think consistency above all
else is the number one. Like you can't let momentum get
to 0. So whether you hit your biceps
twice or 10 times in a week, it's irrelevant to me as long as

(49:53):
I mean, maybe not ten, but it's irrelevant as long as you're
consistently keeping your momentum.
You you have the momentum can't get to 0.
You have to continue the sled movement forward.
You don't need to push it hard. You just need to keep it going.
Because if we could do that day after day, week after week,
month after month, year after year, we're going to be very fit
over time. Whether you expose your muscle
group once to it, twice to it, or three times a week, in the

(50:15):
grand scheme of things, big picture, I think it's
irrelevant. You obviously don't want to
overtrain and you want to get exposure, but I think the secret
sauce is you have to move your body every day.
You should probably get in five days of training if you really
want to like kind of amplify 3 at a minimum.
Yeah. And it sounds like that program
that you started to give an overview of earlier which I will
link to and I'll get that link from you.

(50:35):
But it's what what I was hearingwas I heard Zone 2 in there.
I heard some functional movements, I heard some high
intensity, I heard strength training and I even heard
hypertrophy. You said bodybuilding style.
So feels very well. Rounded in in one Sprint day,
which I think is important. Like not always like sprinting
outside, but Sprint conditioning.
So like 30 seconds on, one minute off, 30 seconds on, one

(50:56):
minute off. These are these are very, very
important energy systems that wehave to work and you should have
a broad inclusive program that allows you to get there.
Good and perfect Segway, that energy system you just mentioned
on sprints, high intensity running and things, VO2 Max
either for fitness generally nowor longevity, how important is

(51:17):
that? I think as long as you're
getting on and you're doing likesteady state cardio at, you
know, a, a fraction of your heart rate and you're trying to
consistently go out there for 30-40 minutes, you're winning.
I think that, you know, we're humans of the world and stuff.
I think that they have a lot of knowledge and Peter and Tia and
I think they, they drive a lot of awareness and knowledge for

(51:38):
these things. And I think that's incredible.
I think that a lot of us are getting are not seeing the force
for the tree, like through the trees.
Like if you're worried about redlight therapy, more cold plunges
or your next supplement, but you're not just training three
to five days a week and getting like you're, you're just missing
the big picture. So you need to go long, you need

(51:58):
to go short, you need to go heavy, you need to go a little
bit lighter, you need to do highintensity and you stay
consistent for decades. If you do that, your VO2 Max
will improve or stay the same asyou age and your bone density
will also improve. And I think those are important
factors. I love it.
Well said, man. You just kind of simplify it in
a really helpful way because it don't get caught up in all like
the the hype and the hoopla if you're not just focusing on.

(52:20):
The the hype and the hoopla is what get what's get what gets
clicks, right. So it's, you know, if you had a
conversation with these guys, they'd be like, yeah, dude, I
agree exactly what Jason just said.
But what's going to get more clicks And, and I'm not saying
this is what you'll see online is more stuff that's like, you
know, a little bit more like a, it's not very sexy to tell

(52:41):
somebody, hey, you need to stay consistent for, you know, 10
years. And you'll, you know, that's,
you'll find the fringe stuff that they'll be discussing.
When in reality, you have to have your baseline down.
Like when people aren't happy with the way they look or the
way they feel, you just ask somebasic, simple questions.
Dude, what does your nutrition look like?
How are you hydrating? How are you sleeping?

(53:02):
And what does your training looklike?
You can learn a lot from that before you start doing a bunch
of other stuff. I don't normally put numbers on
fitness anymore because I did for so many years.
But I want to be fit, I want to be capable, and I want to go win
a jujitsu competition and go wina shooting competition.
I've had to learn that by me doing these things.
I have to be mindful of having aconversation with my spouse

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about what that will take in thecommitment level that I'm
prepared to make. And that's all I'm saying.
Like when I hear something for guys to be mindful of is that
when you set out these goals, before you set out the goal,
remind yourself of your bigger why.
Like what is my bigger Why my bigger Why is I want to be the
best protector, provider, husband, father I could possibly

(53:44):
be. That's my big why.
And if the goal is aligned with the big why, Hell yeah.
But they start to detract you because you're spending way more
time training than you are with your family.
That's where the issue comes in.Yeah, I might edit that out so
my wife doesn't listen to it andturn it in my face and say hey,
Jess. Your goals aren't crazy, but I'm
just saying if you said, hey, I want to be an ultra marathon
runner and back squat 600 lbs atthe same time, Beck all right,

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well, you got a lot of training to do.
So I think this whole like bro split of upper body, lower body
has been pretty popular for manyyears.
I think there's a surge in full body splits, which would be, you
know, some upper body, some lower body.
So you don't tack, tack tacks, but you in the span of a week,
you're actually going to hit themuscle group potentially even
more. But you're doing it in a way

(54:28):
that allows you to still feel like good and not overly tacked.
So when you talk about hitting Bulgarian split squats, Romanian
deadlifts and whatever, and thenyou're trying to run for 40
minutes at a certain zone pace, it's hard because your legs are
going to feel heavy. You're going to feel like you're
running through cement. But if you took that same day
and reduced the volume and increased volume on, let's just
say pull ups that day and you did both, maybe your body would

(54:52):
react in a way where you're still getting the stimulus, just
not so much tax that it then makes you super fatigued.
But what I tell myself, and I'lltell you too, is like I train
every day, seven days a week. I probably haven't taken like a
full resting as long as I remember.
I follow our TH daily program five days a week and I add in

(55:14):
jiu jitsu on top of that. I feel great.
But I've had to adjust my intensity.
So if I go for my workouts at RPE 9 or 10, that's rate of
perceived exertion and then I dojiu jitsu, I'm toast.
I feel like shit. I don't perform.
So what I've had to learn and todo is either make my work out of
seven or my jiu jitsu is 7 and then balance my RPE throughout

(55:36):
the week so I can feel great. But if you feel great and if you
look great, you should just keepdoing what you're doing until
you don't. Then at that point re evaluate
and then find out the next step.Well that was super selfish.
Thanks for indulging me. If you want to send me your
Venmo for the private lesson, I can.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And.
Percy for that man. So this has been great.

(55:57):
I'm going to let you go. You've been so generous with
your time. I guess I'll, I'll close with
this. Jason, you talked about, you
know, your vision for the futureof having these clubs all over
the country. I think it's beautiful.
I think it's amazing and it's needed.
What else are you excited about as you look forward to close
2025 and 2026? And where is the best place?
Not that my audience will have ahard time finding you, but where

(56:17):
would you direct him to come learn more.
Check out your app, your podcast, and all the things you
do. Yeah, I would say, I mean,
obviously I'm looking forward tomy kids finishing out their
sports seasons and getting on tothe next season.
It's really exciting. So it's very exciting season of
our life. And then go to my Instagram at
Jason Khlipa, JSONKHALIPA. And there I linked to the Train

(56:39):
Hard website where you can see the app.
Aside from that, that's probablythe best place to go.
So check that out. I have a weekly newsletter you
could you could join in there, which we could probably do a
better job promoting. But every week I put out a
newsletter. That's a lot of fun, too.
Let's go, Jason. Man, it's been an honor.
Thanks so much for coming on theshow.
You're an inspiring guy. I really appreciate you.
Yeah. Thank you all.
Right, Jason Kleepa, everybody. Well, that's it for this week's

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episode. Thanks for listening to the
Stronger Weekly podcast for yourhealth news, fitness insights
and motivation. Wishing you a strong and healthy
week ahead. See you next time.

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