This week on Stronger Weekly, we break down the most important health & fitness headlines of the week:
- CDC advisers move away from blanket Covid vaccine recommendations, requiring shared clinical decision-making with providers.
- Parents testify before Congress about AI chatbots, warning of danger after children were encouraged toward self-harm.
- The American College of Sports Medicine releases its Top 10 Fitness Trends for 2025 — with wearable tech, HIIT, and strength training still leading the way.
- The rising spread of kissing bugs across the U.S. and the growing threat of Chagas disease.
- The Trump administration pushes states to enforce involuntary rehab for drug users, sparking debates over civil liberties, funding, and effectiveness.
Plus, I’m joined by returning guest Jeff Sutherland, aka Midlife Fit Club, to talk fitness, sobriety, faith, social media, and how to age well.
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Welcome to Stronger Weekly. I'm your host Jesse Carriage
jet. This week on the show, our
health and fitness headlines include CCC, new guidelines
around Covic vaccines, a Senate hearing this week around the
safety of AI chat bots for children, and the American
College of Sports Medicine releases its annual Top Ten
Fitness Trends. We'll cover all of those, plus
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others on the second-half of theshow.
Jeff Sutherland, my friend, AKA Midlife Fit Club, a very, very
influential fitness figure in the world, joins the show to
talk about health, fitness, aging well, and everything in
between. You don't want to miss it.
Let's go. All right, folks, welcome to
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Stronger Weekly. Thanks for being here.
I'm your host, Jesse Carajet. We've got some great headlines
to talk through this week. And as I mentioned in the intro,
Jeff Sutherland Midlife Fit Clubis coming back to the show.
He's our first repeat guest. Just catching up with him,
talking fitness, nutrition, lifestyle, his future plans and
all the things. It's always a very motivating
and encouraging and insightful conversation with Jeff, so
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certainly hang on towards the back end of the show and we'll
have a deep dive with him. But as always, we're going to
jump right into it. Let's get to our top five health
and fitness headlines of the week.
Big changes could be coming around how COVID shots are
recommended in the USCNN reporting, amongst other outlets
that CDC vaccine advisors met this past week and voted to move
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away from blanket recommendations and toward
shared clinical decision making between patient and provider.
Meaning people who want a COVID vaccine will need to consult
with a healthcare provider first.
The committee split six to six with a tiebreaker from.
The committee chair voted that aprescription should not be
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mandated to. Experts warn the move may
decrease COVID vaccine uptake and could reduce access,
depending on insurance and even provider willingness.
So the bottom line? Fewer automatic shots and
recommendations from the government, more individualized
conversations. And for you, this means your
next COVID dose will depend moreon a conversation between you
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and your doctor. More news from Capitol Hill this
week. So in a moving Senate hearing,
parents delivered searing testimony about the risks of AI
chat bots, including ChatGPT forchildren, NBC News reports.
Several families parents specifically described how their
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children had been encouraged towards self harm and even
suicide by chat bot responses. They called on lawmakers to stop
treating children as quote experiments and to force
transparency about how these AI bots are trained and more
importantly, monitored. Lawmakers are now considering
stricter rules on consent, data use and age based restrictions.
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New regulations could be coming that will strictly prohibit and
govern the way these chat AI bots interact with not just
children, but everybody. And as a parent, I caution,
please, please, please monitor your children's use of this
technology. If you haven't seen or heard the
testimony, strongly encourage you to look it up.
It is moving and disturbing and hopefully good comes from those
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Senate hearings and lighter news.
This week, the American College of Sports Medicine released its
annual top ten fitness trends report for 2025 is a they survey
thousands of, you know, organizations, people across the
country and they use data to tryto pinpoint what are the fitness
trends of the year. So rounding out the top five,
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number one for 2025, wearable technology, which is also number
one in 2024. So these are fitness trackers,
smart watchers, HR monitors, check, check, check up to all
the above. For myself, I use them all #2
high intensity interval trainingor HIT #3 strength training with
free weights specifically #4 functional fitness, especially
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with older adults, and #5 body weight training rounds out the
top five. So simple, accessible and
effective. The rest of the list features
things like health coaching, mobile apps, programs toward
aging populations, and some other ones on that list.
So wearable technology hit strength training, functional
fitness, and body weight training.
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The top five fitness trends of 2025.
New National Health news around kissing bugs So a USA TODAY
investigation shows that kissingbugs, which are an insect,
spread Chagas disease and they're becoming more common
across the southern US. At least 300,000 people in the
US are estimated to already be living with Chagas, and climate
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change is allowing the insects to expand their range more
northward in the country. Researchers have found kissing
bugs in 27 States and multiple new counties over the last
decade. Early infections of Chagas often
goes unnoticed, but chronic disease can cause life
threatening heart problems yearslater.
Public health experts warn that surveillance and testing aren't
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keeping up with the spread of Chagas.
For you, that means if you live in or travel through affected
states, awareness and preventionare critical.
So know what these insects look like and ask your doctor about
testing if any unusual symptoms arise.
So kissing bugs on the rise. So your final health and fitness
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headline of the week, The New York Times, amongst other
outlets, is reporting that President Trump and his
administration want to enforce involuntary civic commitment
laws for severe drug use and mental health disorders.
And his executive order this summer directs the attorney
general and HHS Secretary RFK Junior to support enforcement.
So under these laws, a judge whoif convinced by medical
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affidavits, can order that a person be committed to 90 days
of in house residential treatment whether or not they
consent. So these laws already exist in
34 States and DC, but are rarelyused or enforced.
If backed by federal support, they could be applied much more
aggressively. Supporters say this could get
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people off the streets quickly so that they avoid harm to both
themself and others. While critics say it tramples
civil liberties and won't work without more funding, more
treatment beds, which are already scarce.
So the bigger picture, this hasn't passed new legislation
yet, but Trump's directive couldsupercharge enforcement of
existing state laws. So some more laws coming that
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All right everybody, I am here with Jeff Sutherland from
Midlife Fit Club. What's up, Jeff?
Long time no see. Jesse, I, I appreciate it, man.
It's it's an honor to be here again and thank you.
Yeah, that's love having you. You are the 1st guest in two
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years or say put it this way, you are the first time I'm
having a guest back on the show for to to run it back.
So you've got that honor my friend.
So cool. Well, well, thanks for being
here. So I've got your YouTube channel
up over here to my right. Oh, cool.
And and I happen to notice you've been on YouTube for less
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than two years. Yeah.
And you have over 10 million views on YouTube.
Oh wow, I didn't. I didn't know how much.
You didn't know that. You know this subscribers was
like 50 something, but I didn't know the view.
So you're, you're crushing it, but I noticed two of your most
popular videos, one had to do with, as you put it quote,
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flipping the switch at 51. You're 53 years young, right,
Jeff? 53 yeah 54 in February.
God bless you shaming 20 year olds with your physique.
But anyways, your your other oneof your other most popular
videos had to do more of like AQand a so that to say that first
one right. So flipping the switch, how did
you make the change from going as you put it out of shape to
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shredded right? But like the question is why?
So like what? What happened for you in your
early 50s? Fifty one that made you be like,
OK, I'm flipping the switch. You know, there's not a lot of
guys that are fit around my age and I, but they, they can be if,
if they want to be. But I think as we've talked
about before, it was the, the, it started with the, the
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drinking thing. I was just at a point where I
was just sick and tired. So at 51, that's when I realized
I'm just done. I've been drinking for years and
years and, you know, since I wasin high school really and, and
through my 40s, it was just, youknow, a lot of partying and with
my wife and going out to dinner and just drinking.
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It was becoming our identity really.
And I just got, so we both just got kind of like, what are we
doing? It's just stupid and I but I
never really thought I'd be ableto get out of that phase of
drinking. Like it was kind of just
something we did together. So that was really the
beginning. But really the main thing was I
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found God. That was the main thing and,
and, and I didn't really talk about it at the beginning.
There is some posts early on where I do talk about it, where
I talk about the Holy Spirit literally came into my life and
it was tangible. I felt it, it was like there's,
there's just this feeling that came into me.
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It's just, it was incredible andit was just time to change.
And now looking back, it's just so empowering to do something
that most dudes aren't doing. And so I guess I just wanted to
prove to myself that, you know, just feeling everything, being
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completely sober, I just needed to prove to myself that I could
do it. And now I look back on and I
just think it's a badass thing to do.
So with you, you know, essentially like earning a
living online and being online all the time, I wanted to ask
you like how, how has that impacted you in how long you've
been doing this stuff? Two years now.
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Over 2 years now over. Two years can you, can you
notice a difference between maybe like your head and heart
health, like how you felt two years ago versus now?
Yeah. And yeah.
So this business has been two years as far as making content.
It's really, I've been doing it since like Instagram was there
just to let everyone know that Iam a content creator.
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This, it's kind of what I've always done, but through I've
been an art director for, you know, a lot of surf companies
and in that world, graphic design.
So the content creation of what I do is what I love.
I I love to do this. But yeah, so the fitness came,
you know, in just over 2 years with, with this particular
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business and content creator andhow it's been, it's been, it's
been a grind harder than I've ever worked in my life.
And it's amazing when people reach out to me about they asked
me what do I do for a living? And it's like, well, do you
really want to know? I mean, if you want to work
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24/7, go be a content creator ifyou're trying to make a living
at it. I mean, it's, it's a constant
grind. I'm constantly, I do it all
myself with thank God, I have mywife.
She helps me too. It's our only source of income
right now. She recently just lost her job.
So I mean, putting that post outabout God last night, you know,
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it was kind of a, you know, I'm just giving it all to God on
this one man because it is our only source of income, you know,
and there's a lot of people thatwhen you talk about God, get
uncomfortable and they just click on follow and, you know,
potentially loss of business. And but that's part of being a
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follower of Jesus, man. And that's what I've learned and
it's been, it's kind of been slightly, I'm so new at it that
it's, it is still kind of uncomfortable for me, but it's,
it's a, it's a tough world out there.
And you're right. I I see it more because I'm in
this world. Public figure.
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Yeah, I guess so. I never think of myself this
way. I am.
I'm a really humble guy. That's what's a trip about all
this, because I, I get a commentall the time.
It's like, do you own shirts andstuff like this?
But if they really knew me, I, I, I, I'm always wearing a
shirt. Oh, you are right now, thank.
You for that right now, but it kind of became my brand and it's
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it's kind of like I said to you yesterday, it's like it's it's
my business card. I'm a I'm in my 50s and I feel
comfortable not wearing a shirt.So I want to show that, you
know, if if you put in the work,you could not wear your shirt
too. Plus I live in Southern
California. It's look, it's, it's sunny.
Look, man, like you're trying toadvise people on how to get fit
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and like T-shirts can hide A lot.
So like you just showing like, hey, not only do I talk the
talk, I'm walking the walk. I think it's totally probably.
So you keep the shirt off, dude,you go.
I want to hit on another one of those popular videos that you
have. So you are shredded and you know
that. So I want to so you did a video
and I thought it was great. You bet.
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You essentially asked a lot of your own audience member and
followers. You answered their questions
like there was AQ and a what areyour most common questions?
So I guess I'll just, I'll just throw it over to you, Jeff.
What are some of the most commonquestions that you get on
regular basis on how to live like you and look like you?
And then if you could just kind of give your best answer to some
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of those questions. I took some notes on the
questions, but like what are what are like the top five
questions that you get all the time?
Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, number one question is,
well, there's a couple. What do I eat and do I do TRT or
steroids or your peptides or anything like that?
That's, that's probably the number one question.
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I don't think people believe that you can be in good shape
without being on TRT at my age. And you know, the answer is no.
I, I don't, I, when I first started working out, I never
even thought twice. As a matter of fact, I didn't
know what it was. I, I, I just didn't think.
I just, I just knew, oh dude, I just got to go work out and eat
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healthy, you know? Right.
Yeah. So that's what I did.
And I just stick to that. And that's still what I do.
So that's probably #1 and then number 2 is the food I eat.
What, what do you eat to stay lean year round like that?
My wife and I, we made it a lifestyle.
You know, it's, we eat at home now.
Like I said earlier, we used to go out to, to bars.
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Now we eat at home and that's our new lifestyle and we enjoy
spending time together. So that's that's.
Pretty pretty well-rounded on the carbs, fats and proteins.
Pretty I. Definitely.
I could probably pick up on carbs and actually I have been,
I've been adding like potatoes, like starchy potatoes to my diet
a few times a week. But I would say definitely lean
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on protein more than anything. You know, that's the other
question, like how many grams ofprotein do you try to get a day?
And it's like, you know, I'm 170lbs.
So that's what I shoot for 170 grams of protein.
But I, I think I try to get more.
I'll try to get more if I can. As far as the science behind it,
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I just, I just go off my gut andeverything on everything I do.
But it I know #1 is I do want tostay lean and feeling good.
And so that's why I just focus on protein.
Love it. One of the questions in that, in
that exact video, I think someone asked like what is your
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your workout routine? I think you said three
individual like body part focus and then a whole body.
Can you talk about that a littlebit?
Yeah, yeah, totally. I do, I do.
I guess it's a, it's a four day a week split.
I'll I'll call it. It always hits full body.
So I say like I do like leg shoulders in one day.
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It's just what I've always done.It's, and I still do it to this
day. So on, on, on Mondays, that's
what I do, shoulders and legs. But then I, I, and then I, I add
full body because I in a lot of my workouts, I'll swing the
kettlebell. And to me that's really kind of
a full body workout because you're, you're, you're getting
grip strength, forearms, really arms, your, your posterior, your
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whole posterior chain, your, your lower back, your, your
core. I really attribute my core
strength to the kettlebell swingtoo.
But so, yeah, so Monday, then Tuesday I focus on arms, full
body. Wednesdays it's chest, back,
full body. And then Thursday I rest and
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then Friday I do a fun full bodylike kettlebell workout.
Normally a lot of single bell bell workouts, maybe double
kettlebell stuff. I try to have fun with a Friday
workout and I structured it thatway too because you get it done,
get those three days done early in the week, take a rest
Thursday, then it's Friday. You have fun with that workout
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and then you're done. I just rest on the weekends,
although I'll swing my maceball a lot, I'll still do push ups
and I'll, you know, maybe try tobeat my record of I think it's
18 or I think I got 18 pull ups.Is my in in a row straight in a
really strict pull ups? I'm shooting for 20.
I haven't gotten there yet but I'll I'll do stuff like that on
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the weekends. But you know, not crazy full
workouts or anything. Well, you just cause a lot of
people get so fixated on having like a really strict structure
and every single workout has to be like methodical and building
on the previous one. On those weekend ones where you
just kind of want to, it sounds like move a little bit and do
something. Do you just go out there and
just do whatever you feel like doing?
Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah.
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And I'll practice the kettlebelllike I'll practice on doing like
really clean cleans, if you knowwhat I mean, Like as as clean as
possible. Have it just really float in
there really nice. And you know, because a lot of
those times you'll, you'll come up for a clean and it's not as
good as you want, but the next one will be better.
So you're always just trying to make it a little better.
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Yeah, I think 1. Thing I want to say before I
forget walking, I, I walk seven days a week with my wife that
that is like key, especially formy mind when I am feeling down,
I mean, and also fitness in general when I'm feeling down,
get outside and, you know, move your body and that helps every
time. I love that when you walk, do
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you guys have like a scheduled time every day?
Is it morning? Afternoon every day, later
afternoon between 2:00 and 3:00.So I'd say a lot of times we'll
get out and walk. It's when we kind of got through
all our work and then we'll kindof unwind with a walk.
But is that like the only specific thing that you do
outside of the workouts themselves with the kettles and
everything? Yeah, Yeah.
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I would say yeah, that's really more the more intentional cardio
because I I call it brisk walk. We, we hit it pretty hard,
really intentionally walk, walk pretty hard.
But man, I would say like with the kettle bells though,
endurance and I would say athleticism is what you'll kind
of get with those. And so I, I do feel, I mean, out
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of all the exercises I do, that's the one that gets my
heart really pumping. And sometimes I have to sit down
for a minute after and, you know, get my electrolytes in
and. Just take a.
Take a quick break. But maybe just maybe last
question, maybe one other followup on fitness before we move on.
But if someone wants to introduce kettle bells into
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their regular routine, not necessarily changing it to be
like yours, But if they've got a, a pair of kettle bells and
they're staring at it and like, I don't even know what to do
with that. And like, let's just say at the
end of a strength training session, give us like a walk to
what what can they do? What can they do for both that
you know, the cardio benefit, but also everything else you
mentioned athleticism, mobility,and even strength.
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I mean, I would just go right for the swing.
That just seems like the most logical approach.
But yeah, kettlebell swing, double kettlebell swing.
I love doing a little swinging in the to a clean.
You know, there's just so much you could do with them.
Goblet squats. I mean, really, if you only have
one kettlebell, you could do so much.
And that's the other thing I want to talk about is my
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workouts are fast. It's like I, I would say they're
anywhere from 20 to like 45 minutes.
And it's been really working well for me.
You know, look, I'm not looking to be a professional bodybuilder
or I'm not looking to be in shows or anything like that.
This is just simply about wanting to say fit at my age so
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I don't have time to, you know, mess around.
You know, man, when I, when I listen to you, it's it's so
refreshing and it should be encouraging because when I ask
you these questions you have this way about you, you're like,
yeah, I do strength training, but I don't overdo it.
And yeah, I eat clean, but I'm not like obsessing.
And yeah, I do cardio, but I enjoy it with my wife and I get
my cardio, you know, in my strength training.
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And yeah, I do core, but I'm kind of doing core anyway.
When I'm strength training, your, your whole kind of posture
towards fitness is like, Hey, I'm passionate.
I do it, I'm consistent, I work hard, but I'm efficient.
I get it done. And to look at you and to hear a
guy who's like, you're not sitting here saying like, Oh, I
count calories and I have this you, you have like an 8 pack and
you're shredded and you're 53. And I think that should be
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encouraged for people to hear because it's like sometimes when
you start to, you know, consume people's guidance, it can get
overwhelming because they're like, oh, you have to, you have
to get under a barbell and you have to train for, you know, an
hour a day. So to hear that you can achieve
and you can flip the switch at 51 and look like you do at 53
with this very, I think approachable kind of attitude
about it should be very encouraging for anybody
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One question I wanted to ask you, Jesse, is that I had been
thinking about. And because I get a lot of
people reaching out, it's like, well, you have all the time in
the world to work out. And even me, I, I really, I
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don't as much as you think, because people think that that's
all I do. But I, I'm really actually busy
doing so many other things. But with you, my, my two
daughters are grown adult daughters.
So they don't, I'm not taking care of them anymore.
But I know with you, Jesse, you have three young children.
So how and also you, do you knowother businesses and how, how do
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you do it, man? That's what I'm getting at.
Where? Do you find the time to get your
workouts in there? Yeah, I don't sleep.
No, man, not that. Look, trust me, you're you're
touching on a, a hot button for me because sometimes I don't
feel like I have the hours in the day to do what I need to do.
And let's rank those things right?
Like be, show up, show up as a husband, and especially show up
as a husband, as a teammate for three young kids.
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And they're 7 1/2, five and a half, 2 1/2.
And by 2 1/2, it's girl, girl, boy.
And that boy is what, what whatever you're thinking of like
a, you know, prototypical 2 1/2 year old boy, like breaking
stuff, throwing stuff, yelling loud.
He's that. So how do I, how do I show up
for them? How do I show up for my.
I mean, as you mentioned, I'm a COO of a, of a community Health
Center. And then of course, I have this
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awesome show. So fitness is a priority as
well. But like to get to your, to your
answer. How do I do it?
Yeah, I've found. I've found that.
But First off, working out is like therapeutic for me.
Yeah. So if I don't, all those other
things feel harder. So if I try to squeeze my
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training into the middle of my day, which is jammed, it just
won't happen. And then I'm like tense because
I'm trying to get to and I can't.
So all that, to answer your question, I train, I wake up at
5:15, I cold plunge within 10 minutes.
It's a whole other conversation.It wakes me up like endorphins.
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It just kind of cracks me out oflike, oh, I'm awake now.
I try to hit my training like I try to be moving and working out
by like, I don't know, 5:40. And then I just give myself an
hour and I just fill that hour with whatever my training is.
That way it's done. It's like I, I like to say that
I, I do all my hardest work, like before anyone in my family
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even opens their eyes, but it feels, I feel like a strong
doing that and I feel like a provider because what I'm doing
is I'm making sure that my training doesn't eat away from
the responsibilities that matterthe most, which is like my kids
are waking up. I'm helping them get on the bus.
I'm, I'm, I'm cleaning up the house and then I start my work
and then I'm there and I'm supportive to my wife.
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So I guess the short answer could have been I do it first.
I do it early. And unfortunately, Jeff and I
know this is not the best habit,but even if it means I don't
sleep as much, and that's something that I'm starting to
like, I'm trying to be disciplined to go to bed by
10:00 so that I get at least 7 hours in bed when that alarm
goes off. Yeah.
But pretty good but. You know, sometimes I want to
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spend a little bit more time with my wife or we unfortunately
watch that second episode of whatever show we're watching
together. So.
I think I sacrifice sleep a little bit and maybe I
shouldn't, but it's all about prioritizing it and then like
committing to it. Like I I'm the type of guy that
like if I say I'm working out atthis time tomorrow, it's going
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to take 103 fever for me to not do it.
I'm like, I'm doing that shit. Well, there's nothing, I guess.
So it's, I guess a little bit ofdiscipline there, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, and that's the discipline you need to.
That's crazy, man. That's awesome.
So that's how you do it. Everyone that's.
How I do it, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, we're gonna just move on
to kind of a yeah, final question or two, but I'm gonna
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do my best to summarize what I and we just learned from you and
then just ask you one more finalquestion around fitness.
Just like, is there anything else?
But so on the fitness side of things, strength training
intentionally 4 times a week right now, three more body part
focused, always working in the kettles, getting the core in and
then having a rest day and then a full body day on the cardio
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side. Sounds like you're, you're,
you're getting kind of multitasking.
You're spending quality time with your spouse while also
doing a brisk walk 7 * a week and then also relying on your
strength training for the cardioside of things.
Supplementation seems pretty minimal.
Nothing crazy, no TRT peptides, nothing like that.
Me neither. Yeah.
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And then on the nutrition side, feels like just well-rounded,
healthy Whole Foods. And you're not counting
calories. You're just relying on eating
good stuff and kind of going by your going by your gut.
Did I miss anything? No, that's exactly it man.
It's just the way God designed us to be is just to eat healthy
food and, you know, exercise. We're we're meant to be workers
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and move our body. So it's just that simple.
That's my that's my philosophy with this whole thing.
Amen with that important thing. No alcohol and no weed.
No alcohol? No.
Yep. No, no.
Yeah, and I do, I do take creatine with protein and water
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every day, 30 grams of I do supplement a little bit of
protein just to push it there, you know, but so creatine,
protein, but those are the and what's what's that?
Oh, collagen. I I do, I'll take some collagen,
but. I heard you say electrolytes,
you said before. The electrolytes, I'll put that
in my water as well with with that, yeah.
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Yeah, well, awesome man. You heard it.
I'm going to link to all your resources.
I know you have a an app and fitness programs and and
nutritional guides. It sounds like now, but then I I
kind of want to pivot to what wetouched on earlier.
The way I put it was you're not quote just about fitness.
You have your faith journey, which is relatively new.
You have your sobriety journey, which is relatively new.
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I know from getting to know you that you're incredibly loyal and
committed to being a good husband and a good father.
So when you think about these central parts of who you are and
what makes Jeff Sutherland who he is, especially Jesus and your
relationships and all those things.
As you look forward into your kind of online presence and how
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you're guiding people. And then you know how you're
inspiring people, What, what, what's on your mind?
What might change in terms of your message?
What are you thinking about and,and kind of what's, what's in
the future for the Jeff Southernthat's 53 years young?
Yeah, I it's exciting I but to be completely honest, I'm not
sure where it's going to go. I do know that I want to
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continue to be better and working on being better.
I feel like we all have that in us to be better human beings.
I don't know how it all incorporate because I don't want
to come across like, you know, I'm some preacher dude that's
makes people feel like they haveto follow my faith journey or
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anything like that. I, I want to be careful with
that because I, I still want people that may not believe in
God to follow me as long as they're not negative.
I don't want negative people on my page anymore.
So that's why it's kind of good.I'm people are dropping off and
is when I do talk about God a little bit, but I, I don't want
it to scare people away because.And in that way, I still have
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dreams. We still working towards our
dreams. My wife and I to, you know, my
wife's family's from Idaho, dreams of driving up there and
having trips and just having more free time.
I can see it going that way. We've talked about, you know,
renting our house out and buyinga van and getting on the road
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for a while. RVRV owing it and doing that and
bringing some kettle bells with me.
I think it could make some cool content and storytelling there
that that would be really cool. But right now we're not there.
Right now we're just in the grind trying to just, you know,
just keep going and just keep trying to be a good human being.
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You know, I really have a blessed life, as challenging as
it is through social media and doing this.
It's I know he put me in this position.
It sounds weird to say he entrusted me in doing this by
giving me this following becausehonestly, when I first started
putting videos out on on Instagram, I never thought that
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this amount of people would end up following me.
So I really think that was God, just like, OK, dude, I'm gonna
here you go do the right thing with this.
And so that's what I'm trying todo.
Yeah, we'll think about how manypeople start out and and create
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businesses or accounts on socialmedia with the intent of, of it
turning into something that could be, you know, sustainable
and providing. And you've done it.
And I don't know the statistics,but it's not it's not common.
I think it and so much it has todo with not not how you look,
Jeff, but like who you are. And I just, I just want to
relate with you for a second. And this shows more about you
than me, but I'm a Christian, you know?
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That, yeah. And I as a creator as well, I
mean, podcasting is creating, creating with other people too,
with guests. But you know, I think about it
now and then, like, am I saying enough?
Am I revealing enough about who I am in my heart and, and about
Jesus? Like there's, there's always
that tension for me because you can't spend time without, with
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me, without getting to know me. And my faith comes out.
But I don't necessarily lead with that all the time because I
have this fear that I could alienate people because the way
you put it, it's like, I'm not trying to preach, but if if
you're, if your faith is so, so built into who you are, how can
you not share it? But there is that that sort of
fine line between when all of a sudden do I crossover and
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become, you know, Jesse, the Christian guy with the podcast,
not just like the good guy trying to lead a better life and
help people that happens to be aChristian.
And I feel like there's that kind of like fine line that you
have to kind of like straddle and, and I, I come back to my,
my life 1st and it's actually tattooed on my, on my hand here,
which is 2 Timothy 17. And I think it's exactly what
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you and I are like thinking about and maybe even wrestling
with. And that verse is for God did
not give us a spirit of fear or timidity, but of power, love and
self-discipline, fear and timidity on one side, power and
love and self-discipline. So all that to say, now I sound
like a preacher here. It's like if you truly invite
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God in to be a part of the decisions that you make, then
you can't be fearful of where heleads you.
And as I talked to you, I just think like if you follow your
heart and your fate story becomes part of not just your
online story, but your entire story, then you'll be in good
hands wherever you land, my friend.
That's my. Yeah, totally.
And that's, that's when you're relatively new Christian like
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myself. That's where I struggle.
You know, you really, it's a practice, you know, of really
just putting all faith and like,oh please, I I need to make a
living. But at the same time, you know,
my wife and I will be fine. We'll figure something else out.
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So I'd rather do the right thingand, you know, start talking
what God's done for me in my life.
It's it's only been a good thing.
Yeah, if if you, if you get the van, if you go the van route,
rent out your house. You mentioned Idaho, Colorado's
not much further. You're going to swing around in
Colorado. Yeah.
Oh heck, love. To.
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Have you? Oh good, good to know.
We could. Maybe we could park it there for
a while? Good go.
I got a guest room a little bit that.
'D be cool. Amazing man.
Yeah. So final, final thoughts from
you. We'll, we'll wrap up.
But anything else in terms of finding you, following you, and
learning from you, anywhere you want to direct my listeners to
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engage with you, Jeff? Yeah, well you could find me on
Instagram. Midlife fit club, YouTube
midlife fit club, you can find me on TikTok, Facebook, you
could kind of find me everywhereand all the social media
networks. I guess I just would leave with,
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I think a lot of us, I've heard this before and a lot of fitness
people talk about, excuse me, taking those baby steps towards
bettering yourself. Just don't beat yourself up if
you know, we all have our individual pains and hurts.
I know I, I do, but I've, I've learned to, you know, feel that
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pain, but use that pain to be better and, and change the
trajectory of where my hurts come from.
And you and I know what my main hurt is.
We've talked about that. So I just wish everyone the
best. I just want them to know that
everything that I'm doing is coming from the goodness of my
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own heart. And I genuinely want to help
people reach whatever goal they want to reach.
And you know, and we all have something special with inside
ourselves it and that's really it.
Yeah, wise words. Wise words, man.
Well said. Thank you man.
Good advice for anyone you're here hey love to do this again
sometime if you want to come back and we.
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Can connect you with yeah, yeah.Cuz you're awesome, Jesse.
That's what you're a good dude. And so thank you so much for
having me. I sure appreciate it.
Yeah, thanks for being here, man.
Jeff Sutherland, everybody checkthem out.
So that's it for the show this week, folks.
Hope you enjoyed and learned from the health and fitness
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headlines. Looking forward into fall 2025,
we got some exciting guests joining the show that we think
are going to help you in your pursuit to grow stronger every
single week. So thanks for joining us.
We'll be back this Monday with more health and fitness
headlines as well as a great guest, so wishing you a good
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week. Be healthy, be strong, and we
will see you next time.
Welcome to Stronger Weekly. I'm your host Jesse Carriage
jet. This week on the show, our
health and fitness headlines include CCC, new guidelines
around Covic vaccines, a Senate hearing this week around the
safety of AI chat bots for children, and the American
College of Sports Medicine releases its annual Top Ten
Fitness Trends. We'll cover all of those, plus
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others on the second-half of theshow.
Jeff Sutherland, my friend, AKA Midlife Fit Club, a very, very
influential fitness figure in the world, joins the show to
talk about health, fitness, aging well, and everything in
between. You don't want to miss it.
Let's go. All right, folks, welcome to
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Stronger Weekly. Thanks for being here.
I'm your host, Jesse Carajet. We've got some great headlines
to talk through this week. And as I mentioned in the intro,
Jeff Sutherland Midlife Fit Clubis coming back to the show.
He's our first repeat guest. Just catching up with him,
talking fitness, nutrition, lifestyle, his future plans and
all the things. It's always a very motivating
and encouraging and insightful conversation with Jeff, so
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certainly hang on towards the back end of the show and we'll
have a deep dive with him. But as always, we're going to
jump right into it. Let's get to our top five health
and fitness headlines of the week.
Big changes could be coming around how COVID shots are
recommended in the USCNN reporting, amongst other outlets
that CDC vaccine advisors met this past week and voted to move
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away from blanket recommendations and toward
shared clinical decision making between patient and provider.
Meaning people who want a COVID vaccine will need to consult
with a healthcare provider first.
The committee split six to six with a tiebreaker from.
The committee chair voted that aprescription should not be
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mandated to. Experts warn the move may
decrease COVID vaccine uptake and could reduce access,
depending on insurance and even provider willingness.
So the bottom line? Fewer automatic shots and
recommendations from the government, more individualized
conversations. And for you, this means your
next COVID dose will depend moreon a conversation between you
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and your doctor. More news from Capitol Hill this
week. So in a moving Senate hearing,
parents delivered searing testimony about the risks of AI
chat bots, including ChatGPT forchildren, NBC News reports.
Several families parents specifically described how their
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children had been encouraged towards self harm and even
suicide by chat bot responses. They called on lawmakers to stop
treating children as quote experiments and to force
transparency about how these AI bots are trained and more
importantly, monitored. Lawmakers are now considering
stricter rules on consent, data use and age based restrictions.
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New regulations could be coming that will strictly prohibit and
govern the way these chat AI bots interact with not just
children, but everybody. And as a parent, I caution,
please, please, please monitor your children's use of this
technology. If you haven't seen or heard the
testimony, strongly encourage you to look it up.
It is moving and disturbing and hopefully good comes from those
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Senate hearings and lighter news.
This week, the American College of Sports Medicine released its
annual top ten fitness trends report for 2025 is a they survey
thousands of, you know, organizations, people across the
country and they use data to tryto pinpoint what are the fitness
trends of the year. So rounding out the top five,
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number one for 2025, wearable technology, which is also number
one in 2024. So these are fitness trackers,
smart watchers, HR monitors, check, check, check up to all
the above. For myself, I use them all #2
high intensity interval trainingor HIT #3 strength training with
free weights specifically #4 functional fitness, especially
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with older adults, and #5 body weight training rounds out the
top five. So simple, accessible and
effective. The rest of the list features
things like health coaching, mobile apps, programs toward
aging populations, and some other ones on that list.
So wearable technology hit strength training, functional
fitness, and body weight training.
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The top five fitness trends of 2025.
New National Health news around kissing bugs So a USA TODAY
investigation shows that kissingbugs, which are an insect,
spread Chagas disease and they're becoming more common
across the southern US. At least 300,000 people in the
US are estimated to already be living with Chagas, and climate
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change is allowing the insects to expand their range more
northward in the country. Researchers have found kissing
bugs in 27 States and multiple new counties over the last
decade. Early infections of Chagas often
goes unnoticed, but chronic disease can cause life
threatening heart problems yearslater.
Public health experts warn that surveillance and testing aren't
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keeping up with the spread of Chagas.
For you, that means if you live in or travel through affected
states, awareness and preventionare critical.
So know what these insects look like and ask your doctor about
testing if any unusual symptoms arise.
So kissing bugs on the rise. So your final health and fitness
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outlets, is reporting that President Trump and his
administration want to enforce involuntary civic commitment
laws for severe drug use and mental health disorders.
And his executive order this summer directs the attorney
general and HHS Secretary RFK Junior to support enforcement.
So under these laws, a judge whoif convinced by medical
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of in house residential treatment whether or not they
consent. So these laws already exist in
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If backed by federal support, they could be applied much more
aggressively. Supporters say this could get
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people off the streets quickly so that they avoid harm to both
themself and others. While critics say it tramples
civil liberties and won't work without more funding, more
treatment beds, which are already scarce.
So the bigger picture, this hasn't passed new legislation
yet, but Trump's directive couldsupercharge enforcement of
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All right everybody, I am here with Jeff Sutherland from
Midlife Fit Club. What's up, Jeff?
Long time no see. Jesse, I, I appreciate it, man.
It's it's an honor to be here again and thank you.
Yeah, that's love having you. You are the 1st guest in two
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years or say put it this way, you are the first time I'm
having a guest back on the show for to to run it back.
So you've got that honor my friend.
So cool. Well, well, thanks for being
here. So I've got your YouTube channel
up over here to my right. Oh, cool.
And and I happen to notice you've been on YouTube for less
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than two years. Yeah.
And you have over 10 million views on YouTube.
Oh wow, I didn't. I didn't know how much.
You didn't know that. You know this subscribers was
like 50 something, but I didn't know the view.
So you're, you're crushing it, but I noticed two of your most
popular videos, one had to do with, as you put it quote,
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flipping the switch at 51. You're 53 years young, right,
Jeff? 53 yeah 54 in February.
God bless you shaming 20 year olds with your physique.
But anyways, your your other oneof your other most popular
videos had to do more of like AQand a so that to say that first
one right. So flipping the switch, how did
you make the change from going as you put it out of shape to
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shredded right? But like the question is why?
So like what? What happened for you in your
early 50s? Fifty one that made you be like,
OK, I'm flipping the switch. You know, there's not a lot of
guys that are fit around my age and I, but they, they can be if,
if they want to be. But I think as we've talked
about before, it was the, the, it started with the, the
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drinking thing. I was just at a point where I
was just sick and tired. So at 51, that's when I realized
I'm just done. I've been drinking for years and
years and, you know, since I wasin high school really and, and
through my 40s, it was just, youknow, a lot of partying and with
my wife and going out to dinner and just drinking.
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It was becoming our identity really.
And I just got, so we both just got kind of like, what are we
doing? It's just stupid and I but I
never really thought I'd be ableto get out of that phase of
drinking. Like it was kind of just
something we did together. So that was really the
beginning. But really the main thing was I
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found God. That was the main thing and,
and, and I didn't really talk about it at the beginning.
There is some posts early on where I do talk about it, where
I talk about the Holy Spirit literally came into my life and
it was tangible. I felt it, it was like there's,
there's just this feeling that came into me.
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It's just, it was incredible andit was just time to change.
And now looking back, it's just so empowering to do something
that most dudes aren't doing. And so I guess I just wanted to
prove to myself that, you know, just feeling everything, being
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completely sober, I just needed to prove to myself that I could
do it. And now I look back on and I
just think it's a badass thing to do.
So with you, you know, essentially like earning a
living online and being online all the time, I wanted to ask
you like how, how has that impacted you in how long you've
been doing this stuff? Two years now.
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Over 2 years now over. Two years can you, can you
notice a difference between maybe like your head and heart
health, like how you felt two years ago versus now?
Yeah. And yeah.
So this business has been two years as far as making content.
It's really, I've been doing it since like Instagram was there
just to let everyone know that Iam a content creator.
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This, it's kind of what I've always done, but through I've
been an art director for, you know, a lot of surf companies
and in that world, graphic design.
So the content creation of what I do is what I love.
I I love to do this. But yeah, so the fitness came,
you know, in just over 2 years with, with this particular
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business and content creator andhow it's been, it's been, it's
been a grind harder than I've ever worked in my life.
And it's amazing when people reach out to me about they asked
me what do I do for a living? And it's like, well, do you
really want to know? I mean, if you want to work
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24/7, go be a content creator ifyou're trying to make a living
at it. I mean, it's, it's a constant
grind. I'm constantly, I do it all
myself with thank God, I have mywife.
She helps me too. It's our only source of income
right now. She recently just lost her job.
So I mean, putting that post outabout God last night, you know,
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it was kind of a, you know, I'm just giving it all to God on
this one man because it is our only source of income, you know,
and there's a lot of people thatwhen you talk about God, get
uncomfortable and they just click on follow and, you know,
potentially loss of business. And but that's part of being a
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follower of Jesus, man. And that's what I've learned and
it's been, it's kind of been slightly, I'm so new at it that
it's, it is still kind of uncomfortable for me, but it's,
it's a, it's a tough world out there.
And you're right. I I see it more because I'm in
this world. Public figure.
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Yeah, I guess so. I never think of myself this
way. I am.
I'm a really humble guy. That's what's a trip about all
this, because I, I get a commentall the time.
It's like, do you own shirts andstuff like this?
But if they really knew me, I, I, I, I'm always wearing a
shirt. Oh, you are right now, thank.
You for that right now, but it kind of became my brand and it's
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it's kind of like I said to you yesterday, it's like it's it's
my business card. I'm a I'm in my 50s and I feel
comfortable not wearing a shirt.So I want to show that, you
know, if if you put in the work,you could not wear your shirt
too. Plus I live in Southern
California. It's look, it's, it's sunny.
Look, man, like you're trying toadvise people on how to get fit
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and like T-shirts can hide A lot.
So like you just showing like, hey, not only do I talk the
talk, I'm walking the walk. I think it's totally probably.
So you keep the shirt off, dude,you go.
I want to hit on another one of those popular videos that you
have. So you are shredded and you know
that. So I want to so you did a video
and I thought it was great. You bet.
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You essentially asked a lot of your own audience member and
followers. You answered their questions
like there was AQ and a what areyour most common questions?
So I guess I'll just, I'll just throw it over to you, Jeff.
What are some of the most commonquestions that you get on
regular basis on how to live like you and look like you?
And then if you could just kind of give your best answer to some
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of those questions. I took some notes on the
questions, but like what are what are like the top five
questions that you get all the time?
Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, number one question is,
well, there's a couple. What do I eat and do I do TRT or
steroids or your peptides or anything like that?
That's, that's probably the number one question.
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I don't think people believe that you can be in good shape
without being on TRT at my age. And you know, the answer is no.
I, I don't, I, when I first started working out, I never
even thought twice. As a matter of fact, I didn't
know what it was. I, I, I just didn't think.
I just, I just knew, oh dude, I just got to go work out and eat
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healthy, you know? Right.
Yeah. So that's what I did.
And I just stick to that. And that's still what I do.
So that's probably #1 and then number 2 is the food I eat.
What, what do you eat to stay lean year round like that?
My wife and I, we made it a lifestyle.
You know, it's, we eat at home now.
Like I said earlier, we used to go out to, to bars.
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Now we eat at home and that's our new lifestyle and we enjoy
spending time together. So that's that's.
Pretty pretty well-rounded on the carbs, fats and proteins.
Pretty I. Definitely.
I could probably pick up on carbs and actually I have been,
I've been adding like potatoes, like starchy potatoes to my diet
a few times a week. But I would say definitely lean
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on protein more than anything. You know, that's the other
question, like how many grams ofprotein do you try to get a day?
And it's like, you know, I'm 170lbs.
So that's what I shoot for 170 grams of protein.
But I, I think I try to get more.
I'll try to get more if I can. As far as the science behind it,
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I just, I just go off my gut andeverything on everything I do.
But it I know #1 is I do want tostay lean and feeling good.
And so that's why I just focus on protein.
Love it. One of the questions in that, in
that exact video, I think someone asked like what is your
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your workout routine? I think you said three
individual like body part focus and then a whole body.
Can you talk about that a littlebit?
Yeah, yeah, totally. I do, I do.
I guess it's a, it's a four day a week split.
I'll I'll call it. It always hits full body.
So I say like I do like leg shoulders in one day.
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It's just what I've always done.It's, and I still do it to this
day. So on, on, on Mondays, that's
what I do, shoulders and legs. But then I, I, and then I, I add
full body because I in a lot of my workouts, I'll swing the
kettlebell. And to me that's really kind of
a full body workout because you're, you're, you're getting
grip strength, forearms, really arms, your, your posterior, your
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whole posterior chain, your, your lower back, your, your
core. I really attribute my core
strength to the kettlebell swingtoo.
But so, yeah, so Monday, then Tuesday I focus on arms, full
body. Wednesdays it's chest, back,
full body. And then Thursday I rest and
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then Friday I do a fun full bodylike kettlebell workout.
Normally a lot of single bell bell workouts, maybe double
kettlebell stuff. I try to have fun with a Friday
workout and I structured it thatway too because you get it done,
get those three days done early in the week, take a rest
Thursday, then it's Friday. You have fun with that workout
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and then you're done. I just rest on the weekends,
although I'll swing my maceball a lot, I'll still do push ups
and I'll, you know, maybe try tobeat my record of I think it's
18 or I think I got 18 pull ups.Is my in in a row straight in a
really strict pull ups? I'm shooting for 20.
I haven't gotten there yet but I'll I'll do stuff like that on
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the weekends. But you know, not crazy full
workouts or anything. Well, you just cause a lot of
people get so fixated on having like a really strict structure
and every single workout has to be like methodical and building
on the previous one. On those weekend ones where you
just kind of want to, it sounds like move a little bit and do
something. Do you just go out there and
just do whatever you feel like doing?
Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah.
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And I'll practice the kettlebelllike I'll practice on doing like
really clean cleans, if you knowwhat I mean, Like as as clean as
possible. Have it just really float in
there really nice. And you know, because a lot of
those times you'll, you'll come up for a clean and it's not as
good as you want, but the next one will be better.
So you're always just trying to make it a little better.
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Yeah, I think 1. Thing I want to say before I
forget walking, I, I walk seven days a week with my wife that
that is like key, especially formy mind when I am feeling down,
I mean, and also fitness in general when I'm feeling down,
get outside and, you know, move your body and that helps every
time. I love that when you walk, do
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you guys have like a scheduled time every day?
Is it morning? Afternoon every day, later
afternoon between 2:00 and 3:00.So I'd say a lot of times we'll
get out and walk. It's when we kind of got through
all our work and then we'll kindof unwind with a walk.
But is that like the only specific thing that you do
outside of the workouts themselves with the kettles and
everything? Yeah, Yeah.
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I would say yeah, that's really more the more intentional cardio
because I I call it brisk walk. We, we hit it pretty hard,
really intentionally walk, walk pretty hard.
But man, I would say like with the kettle bells though,
endurance and I would say athleticism is what you'll kind
of get with those. And so I, I do feel, I mean, out
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of all the exercises I do, that's the one that gets my
heart really pumping. And sometimes I have to sit down
for a minute after and, you know, get my electrolytes in
and. Just take a.
Take a quick break. But maybe just maybe last
question, maybe one other followup on fitness before we move on.
But if someone wants to introduce kettle bells into
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their regular routine, not necessarily changing it to be
like yours, But if they've got a, a pair of kettle bells and
they're staring at it and like, I don't even know what to do
with that. And like, let's just say at the
end of a strength training session, give us like a walk to
what what can they do? What can they do for both that
you know, the cardio benefit, but also everything else you
mentioned athleticism, mobility,and even strength.
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I mean, I would just go right for the swing.
That just seems like the most logical approach.
But yeah, kettlebell swing, double kettlebell swing.
I love doing a little swinging in the to a clean.
You know, there's just so much you could do with them.
Goblet squats. I mean, really, if you only have
one kettlebell, you could do so much.
And that's the other thing I want to talk about is my
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workouts are fast. It's like I, I would say they're
anywhere from 20 to like 45 minutes.
And it's been really working well for me.
You know, look, I'm not looking to be a professional bodybuilder
or I'm not looking to be in shows or anything like that.
This is just simply about wanting to say fit at my age so
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I don't have time to, you know, mess around.
You know, man, when I, when I listen to you, it's it's so
refreshing and it should be encouraging because when I ask
you these questions you have this way about you, you're like,
yeah, I do strength training, but I don't overdo it.
And yeah, I eat clean, but I'm not like obsessing.
And yeah, I do cardio, but I enjoy it with my wife and I get
my cardio, you know, in my strength training.
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And yeah, I do core, but I'm kind of doing core anyway.
When I'm strength training, your, your whole kind of posture
towards fitness is like, Hey, I'm passionate.
I do it, I'm consistent, I work hard, but I'm efficient.
I get it done. And to look at you and to hear a
guy who's like, you're not sitting here saying like, Oh, I
count calories and I have this you, you have like an 8 pack and
you're shredded and you're 53. And I think that should be
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encouraged for people to hear because it's like sometimes when
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to get under a barbell and you have to train for, you know, an
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One question I wanted to ask you, Jesse, is that I had been
thinking about. And because I get a lot of
people reaching out, it's like, well, you have all the time in
the world to work out. And even me, I, I really, I
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don't as much as you think, because people think that that's
all I do. But I, I'm really actually busy
doing so many other things. But with you, my, my two
daughters are grown adult daughters.
So they don't, I'm not taking care of them anymore.
But I know with you, Jesse, you have three young children.
So how and also you, do you knowother businesses and how, how do
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you do it, man? That's what I'm getting at.
Where? Do you find the time to get your
workouts in there? Yeah, I don't sleep.
No, man, not that. Look, trust me, you're you're
touching on a, a hot button for me because sometimes I don't
feel like I have the hours in the day to do what I need to do.
And let's rank those things right?
Like be, show up, show up as a husband, and especially show up
as a husband, as a teammate for three young kids.
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And they're 7 1/2, five and a half, 2 1/2.
And by 2 1/2, it's girl, girl, boy.
And that boy is what, what whatever you're thinking of like
a, you know, prototypical 2 1/2 year old boy, like breaking
stuff, throwing stuff, yelling loud.
He's that. So how do I, how do I show up
for them? How do I show up for my.
I mean, as you mentioned, I'm a COO of a, of a community Health
Center. And then of course, I have this
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awesome show. So fitness is a priority as
well. But like to get to your, to your
answer. How do I do it?
Yeah, I've found. I've found that.
But First off, working out is like therapeutic for me.
Yeah. So if I don't, all those other
things feel harder. So if I try to squeeze my
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training into the middle of my day, which is jammed, it just
won't happen. And then I'm like tense because
I'm trying to get to and I can't.
So all that, to answer your question, I train, I wake up at
5:15, I cold plunge within 10 minutes.
It's a whole other conversation.It wakes me up like endorphins.
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It just kind of cracks me out oflike, oh, I'm awake now.
I try to hit my training like I try to be moving and working out
by like, I don't know, 5:40. And then I just give myself an
hour and I just fill that hour with whatever my training is.
That way it's done. It's like I, I like to say that
I, I do all my hardest work, like before anyone in my family
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even opens their eyes, but it feels, I feel like a strong
doing that and I feel like a provider because what I'm doing
is I'm making sure that my training doesn't eat away from
the responsibilities that matterthe most, which is like my kids
are waking up. I'm helping them get on the bus.
I'm, I'm, I'm cleaning up the house and then I start my work
and then I'm there and I'm supportive to my wife.
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So I guess the short answer could have been I do it first.
I do it early. And unfortunately, Jeff and I
know this is not the best habit,but even if it means I don't
sleep as much, and that's something that I'm starting to
like, I'm trying to be disciplined to go to bed by
10:00 so that I get at least 7 hours in bed when that alarm
goes off. Yeah.
But pretty good but. You know, sometimes I want to
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spend a little bit more time with my wife or we unfortunately
watch that second episode of whatever show we're watching
together. So.
I think I sacrifice sleep a little bit and maybe I
shouldn't, but it's all about prioritizing it and then like
committing to it. Like I I'm the type of guy that
like if I say I'm working out atthis time tomorrow, it's going
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to take 103 fever for me to not do it.
I'm like, I'm doing that shit. Well, there's nothing, I guess.
So it's, I guess a little bit ofdiscipline there, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, and that's the discipline you need to.
That's crazy, man. That's awesome.
So that's how you do it. Everyone that's.
How I do it, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, we're gonna just move on
to kind of a yeah, final question or two, but I'm gonna
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do my best to summarize what I and we just learned from you and
then just ask you one more finalquestion around fitness.
Just like, is there anything else?
But so on the fitness side of things, strength training
intentionally 4 times a week right now, three more body part
focused, always working in the kettles, getting the core in and
then having a rest day and then a full body day on the cardio
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side. Sounds like you're, you're,
you're getting kind of multitasking.
You're spending quality time with your spouse while also
doing a brisk walk 7 * a week and then also relying on your
strength training for the cardioside of things.
Supplementation seems pretty minimal.
Nothing crazy, no TRT peptides, nothing like that.
Me neither. Yeah.
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And then on the nutrition side, feels like just well-rounded,
healthy Whole Foods. And you're not counting
calories. You're just relying on eating
good stuff and kind of going by your going by your gut.
Did I miss anything? No, that's exactly it man.
It's just the way God designed us to be is just to eat healthy
food and, you know, exercise. We're we're meant to be workers
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and move our body. So it's just that simple.
That's my that's my philosophy with this whole thing.
Amen with that important thing. No alcohol and no weed.
No alcohol? No.
Yep. No, no.
Yeah, and I do, I do take creatine with protein and water
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every day, 30 grams of I do supplement a little bit of
protein just to push it there, you know, but so creatine,
protein, but those are the and what's what's that?
Oh, collagen. I I do, I'll take some collagen,
but. I heard you say electrolytes,
you said before. The electrolytes, I'll put that
in my water as well with with that, yeah.
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Yeah, well, awesome man. You heard it.
I'm going to link to all your resources.
I know you have a an app and fitness programs and and
nutritional guides. It sounds like now, but then I I
kind of want to pivot to what wetouched on earlier.
The way I put it was you're not quote just about fitness.
You have your faith journey, which is relatively new.
You have your sobriety journey, which is relatively new.
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I know from getting to know you that you're incredibly loyal and
committed to being a good husband and a good father.
So when you think about these central parts of who you are and
what makes Jeff Sutherland who he is, especially Jesus and your
relationships and all those things.
As you look forward into your kind of online presence and how
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you're guiding people. And then you know how you're
inspiring people, What, what, what's on your mind?
What might change in terms of your message?
What are you thinking about and,and kind of what's, what's in
the future for the Jeff Southernthat's 53 years young?
Yeah, I it's exciting I but to be completely honest, I'm not
sure where it's going to go. I do know that I want to
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continue to be better and working on being better.
I feel like we all have that in us to be better human beings.
I don't know how it all incorporate because I don't want
to come across like, you know, I'm some preacher dude that's
makes people feel like they haveto follow my faith journey or
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anything like that. I, I want to be careful with
that because I, I still want people that may not believe in
God to follow me as long as they're not negative.
I don't want negative people on my page anymore.
So that's why it's kind of good.I'm people are dropping off and
is when I do talk about God a little bit, but I, I don't want
it to scare people away because.And in that way, I still have
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dreams. We still working towards our
dreams. My wife and I to, you know, my
wife's family's from Idaho, dreams of driving up there and
having trips and just having more free time.
I can see it going that way. We've talked about, you know,
renting our house out and buyinga van and getting on the road
(31:51):
for a while. RVRV owing it and doing that and
bringing some kettle bells with me.
I think it could make some cool content and storytelling there
that that would be really cool. But right now we're not there.
Right now we're just in the grind trying to just, you know,
just keep going and just keep trying to be a good human being.
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You know, I really have a blessed life, as challenging as
it is through social media and doing this.
It's I know he put me in this position.
It sounds weird to say he entrusted me in doing this by
giving me this following becausehonestly, when I first started
putting videos out on on Instagram, I never thought that
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this amount of people would end up following me.
So I really think that was God, just like, OK, dude, I'm gonna
here you go do the right thing with this.
And so that's what I'm trying todo.
Yeah, we'll think about how manypeople start out and and create
(32:59):
businesses or accounts on socialmedia with the intent of, of it
turning into something that could be, you know, sustainable
and providing. And you've done it.
And I don't know the statistics,but it's not it's not common.
I think it and so much it has todo with not not how you look,
Jeff, but like who you are. And I just, I just want to
relate with you for a second. And this shows more about you
than me, but I'm a Christian, you know?
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That, yeah. And I as a creator as well, I
mean, podcasting is creating, creating with other people too,
with guests. But you know, I think about it
now and then, like, am I saying enough?
Am I revealing enough about who I am in my heart and, and about
Jesus? Like there's, there's always
that tension for me because you can't spend time without, with
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me, without getting to know me. And my faith comes out.
But I don't necessarily lead with that all the time because I
have this fear that I could alienate people because the way
you put it, it's like, I'm not trying to preach, but if if
you're, if your faith is so, so built into who you are, how can
you not share it? But there is that that sort of
fine line between when all of a sudden do I crossover and
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become, you know, Jesse, the Christian guy with the podcast,
not just like the good guy trying to lead a better life and
help people that happens to be aChristian.
And I feel like there's that kind of like fine line that you
have to kind of like straddle and, and I, I come back to my,
my life 1st and it's actually tattooed on my, on my hand here,
which is 2 Timothy 17. And I think it's exactly what
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you and I are like thinking about and maybe even wrestling
with. And that verse is for God did
not give us a spirit of fear or timidity, but of power, love and
self-discipline, fear and timidity on one side, power and
love and self-discipline. So all that to say, now I sound
like a preacher here. It's like if you truly invite
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God in to be a part of the decisions that you make, then
you can't be fearful of where heleads you.
And as I talked to you, I just think like if you follow your
heart and your fate story becomes part of not just your
online story, but your entire story, then you'll be in good
hands wherever you land, my friend.
That's my. Yeah, totally.
And that's, that's when you're relatively new Christian like
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myself. That's where I struggle.
You know, you really, it's a practice, you know, of really
just putting all faith and like,oh please, I I need to make a
living. But at the same time, you know,
my wife and I will be fine. We'll figure something else out.
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So I'd rather do the right thingand, you know, start talking
what God's done for me in my life.
It's it's only been a good thing.
Yeah, if if you, if you get the van, if you go the van route,
rent out your house. You mentioned Idaho, Colorado's
not much further. You're going to swing around in
Colorado. Yeah.
Oh heck, love. To.
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Have you? Oh good, good to know.
We could. Maybe we could park it there for
a while? Good go.
I got a guest room a little bit that.
'D be cool. Amazing man.
Yeah. So final, final thoughts from
you. We'll, we'll wrap up.
But anything else in terms of finding you, following you, and
learning from you, anywhere you want to direct my listeners to
(36:20):
engage with you, Jeff? Yeah, well you could find me on
Instagram. Midlife fit club, YouTube
midlife fit club, you can find me on TikTok, Facebook, you
could kind of find me everywhereand all the social media
networks. I guess I just would leave with,
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I think a lot of us, I've heard this before and a lot of fitness
people talk about, excuse me, taking those baby steps towards
bettering yourself. Just don't beat yourself up if
you know, we all have our individual pains and hurts.
I know I, I do, but I've, I've learned to, you know, feel that
(37:02):
pain, but use that pain to be better and, and change the
trajectory of where my hurts come from.
And you and I know what my main hurt is.
We've talked about that. So I just wish everyone the
best. I just want them to know that
everything that I'm doing is coming from the goodness of my
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own heart. And I genuinely want to help
people reach whatever goal they want to reach.
And you know, and we all have something special with inside
ourselves it and that's really it.
Yeah, wise words. Wise words, man.
Well said. Thank you man.
Good advice for anyone you're here hey love to do this again
sometime if you want to come back and we.
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Can connect you with yeah, yeah.Cuz you're awesome, Jesse.
That's what you're a good dude. And so thank you so much for
having me. I sure appreciate it.
Yeah, thanks for being here, man.
Jeff Sutherland, everybody checkthem out.
So that's it for the show this week, folks.
Hope you enjoyed and learned from the health and fitness
(38:07):
headlines. Looking forward into fall 2025,
we got some exciting guests joining the show that we think
are going to help you in your pursuit to grow stronger every
single week. So thanks for joining us.
We'll be back this Monday with more health and fitness
headlines as well as a great guest, so wishing you a good
(38:27):
week. Be healthy, be strong, and we
will see you next time.
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