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And welcome to another live episode. I am your
host, Wize, and I have a very special
guest. She's a minister, spiritual connection specialist,
and animal communicator. Welcome to the show,
Karen. Cleveland. Awesome. Thank
you. It's such a pleasure to be here.
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It's my pleasure. All right, Karen,
can you tell us a little something about so you're a minister,
spiritual connection specialist, and animal
communicator. What exactly is an animal communicator?
That's a really good question. And because I do it,
I'm always surprised that so many people don't know what it
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is. But that's okay. So I
discovered and I took some classes that I have this ability
to connect deeply with animals, and mostly
I practice mostly with pets. So if you have a dog or a
cat that you're having an issue with, I
sit down remotely with them, usually through a picture,
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connect with their energy and find out
what's going on so if they're behaving
in a way you don't want them to behave. Some
people call us pet psychics. We don't predict the future
or anything, but we can find out what's going on in their field.
Is there something upsetting them? Are they in a habit? Is
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something physically not feeling good with them?
So I help people, I guess, with their relationships with
their animals and help shift behaviors a little bit.
Okay. And it's fun. It's a lot of fun. I can
imagine it's different. And
listen, if it's
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something you love doing and it's something
that's amazing. So how do you incorporate spirituality
and animal communication into your coaching? Yeah,
I realize that probably sounds unusual, too, but
here's kind of how my view of the universe
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works.
Let's talk about some spiritual practices
that are very common. So visualization, for example.
Yes. Or even the laws of
expectation, but let's say visualization. So we put out into the
universe what we want, right? We think about it. We see
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ourselves excelling at the meeting we're going
into, or getting the raise from the boss, whatever it is that
we want, we visualize that ahead of time. So we're prepared when
we do that, and we hope that our vibration is matching
that to make it happen. So the same thing sometimes with the
animals. If someone has a cat that's not using the litter
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box and they want it to use the
litter box. Then when I sit down and connect with a
cat, I go through the same visualization process and show
them that we want them to use the litter box or show them that we
want them to stop scratching on their furniture and to
scratch on the scratching post instead. So there's a lot of things
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that are a spiritual practice that actually apply
to how we relate to the animals. And when we don't
realize it, we do it accidentally. Just
like life. Okay, so just
like if I'm putting negative thoughts out there
about how broke I am and I never have any money at the end of
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the month, sometimes that's usually
how it is for mindset reasons, for energy reasons, all kinds of
reasons. Same with the animals. We don't realize we're telling
them to not do something. So
we're giving them the negative form of what we want them to do.
And they don't understand because just like God in the
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Universe, which is seeing basically a
picture of what we want, when we say something, we're
creating a picture of what we want and the animals pick it up the
same way we do. It's actually how they communicate with each other, one of the
ways they communicate with each other. And so we can communicate with them
that way as well.
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Okay.
How do you help your clients overcome their personal struggles to
unlock their full potential?
Great question. And I should
say that while I do work with animals, I don't work
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exclusively with people with animals. So most of the
people, though,
at least let me back up just a minute a little
bit. I do often take people, like on
safari and start the process there, for example.
But you don't have to be a person that likes animals or have
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animals to work with me necessarily. It's
just one of the ways I help people connect.
But I like to use a real
holistic method. I think a lot of people there's a lot of talk
about mindset these days, which is really important,
but it's not the only thing. Excuse me,
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I just started losing my voice right before right before
this. It's not the only thing.
I believe we need a more holistic view of
goal setting or of trying to achieve our dreams.
And mindset is certainly a big part of it, the mind,
but also the body. We need to learn how to check in
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with our emotions, with our energy and
vibrations and just recognize the
real physical parts of what our body is telling
us. And of course, our body also has to take
the movement for the inspired action that we get checking
in with our soul or our spirit, our heart
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so many times. I'm sure you've seen this with people,
they achieve a goal and they're not happy
still because it wasn't really their dream to start
with. They might be influenced by others
they might have thought they always wanted it but never
really checked in to see if it was truly one of their personal
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dreams. So incorporating
everything into this process of goal setting or what we want
to go after, I think is really important.
And then I have a
whole implementation plan how we do this,
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which we can talk about if you want to. But
I think if people would start to slow down and really listen to what their
heart actually wants and start to make
some movement towards that instead
of what they think they want, what society has told them, they want,
what their parents have told them they want, or their spouse.
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It would make a big difference in
our happiness level or a
meaningful life success level.
How do you have your clients approach, setting and
achieving goals? Yeah,
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so I have what I call the
evolve process, and it's a
continual circle, really, or hopefully a spiral
upwards, but starting with the emotions. So starting with the
body part, what's not making you happy?
And sometimes we think it's our whole
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life. Nothing's right. Nothing's going right. I hate
life, but really
I have found that sometimes it's one thing that spills
over into everything or maybe two things that spills over. And
once we can get that fixed, maybe some of the other things aren't
so bad, or we work on those later.
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When do you feel the worst? Is it when you think about going to your
job? Is it when you think about going to a
family reunion? Just
really check in. And when do you feel the worst? When does the
body feel like, I don't want to
do this? And then
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from that space so you know what you don't want? You
want to stop feeling that way and then
sit and take time to actually vision. So the V
is vision, evolve,
vision what you do want,
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because maybe you don't want to quit your job. And actually, I read not too
long ago in the newspaper, a whole bunch of people quit their
job in the great resignation in the last few
years, and they have found that many of them aren't any
happier. Okay, so they quit their jobs and now they're not
any happier because maybe it wasn't quitting the
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job and maybe it wasn't getting a new job. Maybe it was
the aspect of the job. Or
it could be the people, it could be the details you're doing. It could be
a lot of things. So what do you want? Sitting down and
actually listening to taking some meditation or some journaling
or some contemplation, some kind of way
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to connect with the soul, with the spirit.
What you do want?
I believe once we figure out what we want, then we
say out loud, like an affirmation statement,
basically, what do I want? It's like, okay, I want a job where I'm
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respected and well paid and
saying that out loud. Then
I tell people just for a while, we allow the inner critic to come up
for a minute and tell us why we can't have that. Why aren't we in
that position right now? And this is where we get into some of the mindset
work. Because when I say that,
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usually a whole bunch of reasons come up, right? Why I can't have it, why
I'm not there. It's like, well, I don't know. I can't change my job. I
need to go back to school. I don't have the connections.
All kinds of excuses come up why we can't get what it is
we want, and those are what we need to pay attention to.
So starting the mindset work from there, as far
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as why we can't do that,
I had a bunch of mindset work to do. So I had my own
little, I call it a transformation year several
years ago. And I had to work hard to overcome some of the
things that now seem like
ridiculous beliefs. I totally believed that as a
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single woman, I couldn't buy my own house. Not
me. Other people could, but for some reason I couldn't do it. So
I had a lot of stuff to get over. But anyway, so start the mindset
work. Why? One of the things is
when we tell these stories to ourselves, they might
seem true. So one of my stories was I have
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bad credit, okay? Or, I mean, it was good credit, but it
wasn't excellent or however
they rank them. So I figured I didn't have good enough credit. And if
you look at it, that's a fact. It was a fact. It was
600 something. But
what my assumption was the lie that I was
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telling myself is that I needed good credit to buy a
house. And so sometimes we might
say, but these are all facts. This is why it's not going to
work. And these are facts. And sometimes the
facts aren't really facts, they're assumptions.
It was an assumption that I needed a down payment and I
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didn't have one because people have always said that,
but it turned out I didn't need a down payment. So anyway, so
doing mindset work even on the things that we think are facts, because
the universe has a million ways to make things happen
once we start being open to it.
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EVOL out loud and then listen. Listen to
the inner critic and then v volition putting into
action a plan.
So taking inspired action every day. And that means
listening to our soul's input, listening to our heart's
input, however you want to say it, listening to God,
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whatever we're being told to do, to take action on that
plan, put it into action and do it, actually do
it. Do your spiritual practice, whether it's
meditation or gratitude or forgiveness or
whatever the practice is, whatever the physical action is, to
do it and then execute
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everything. So do it. Make a commitment to it.
And then we start over and we check in with the emotions, how's it going?
Is this still the right direction I want to go? Or
maybe I misunderstood. Maybe I discovered I don't actually like it as well as
I thought I did. So always checking in and it's kind of a continual process
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to bring it. And I think
it's important to pay attention to the process
because I think we all deserve to live
a certain amount of happiness or contentment or
to get out of the struggle.
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So what are some of the things you do personally
to help you
adapt with the times?
What is it that you do that evolves so that you can help
your clients and customers? Yeah,
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I'm a forever student, so I'm always
learning. Since I've started doing podcasts, I have
so many saved ones to listen to all the time. There's
so many great podcasts to listen to that have great information out
there. But I also like to read books and watch
videos and stuff. But I have
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a morning practice that I have had for at least five or
six, seven years now that
I just kind of check in with.
I call it my leadership team.
And what's going on, what should I do today,
what do I need to know, basically?
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And it's really important to me to have
some quiet time, partly for that and
partly just to be still, I
guess, be in the stillness.
And I like to pay attention to signs
like coincidences,
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little things that happen, and see how
if there's any meaning to it. There may or may not be meaning to it,
or there might be, but I don't know what it is. But
just to help me know which direction to go.
I feel like I usually have a pretty good sense of
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where I'm going, which way I'm heading, but it's always nice
to check in and get feedback on that because sometimes
I get messages that really, I should do
that. I'll try it, I don't know,
actually. So I also have a podcast and it was a direct result
of some guidance I got in
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my morning routine one time.
How long have you been podcasting? Not very long. I
started about six, seven months ago. But I
would say it's been in mind and in progress for
about a year, so it took me a while to actually do
it. What was
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it that delayed the process.
Mindset? You
know, because
I had one and wanted to start my podcast since 2019.
And I had purchased the equipment and everything.
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I had set up an account on Podbean and forgot
about it, and I just had the equipment on. And then
so when I get furloughed for my job in 2020, because of the
pandemic, I had this equipment here and I would
mess with it, but I would just record and delete, record and
delete, record and delete. Until I finally decided to press
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record and upload it.
That's how I started. And it was a five minute episode, and
with each episode, it grows. And now I
do video. I started strictly audio, so now I do audio and
video. Yeah. And it's great, isn't
it? Yeah.
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I waited because who's going to listen
and what am I going to say? Those
exact words are the same words that I would use.
Who's going to want to listen to me? I sound horrible. Oh,
please. Nobody's going to tune in.
And at first they didn't, but then
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as I kept wanting to grow and
learn and started seeking out information, what
kind of mic do I need? What kind of program helps me with
my editing? What camera should I once I started
checking that out and really deep diving into that, it
was like, okay, all right, I see this
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now. The more I did it, the more I
improved with each episode. Exactly. You can see the difference.
And my nephew was like, no. When I first did the first episode, he
was like, we shouldn't release it. I was like, Why not? He was like, no,
let's practice. We got to need to eat to be perfect. And I'm like,
I want people to see the growth. I want them to see where we started
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at, to where we're at now, to
where I started at from.
I started doing solo episodes, and I didn't
enjoy them so much because
the energy of the content wasn't what I wanted.
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And so when I switched it more to interview based show
and started having these great conversations with people, that's when the show really
started. This is what I want to do, right?
This is the kind of show I want to have, where I have people come
on, share their stories, and who knows
who out there is listening to the story. And it might benefit
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them. They might take something from this end.
And it happens. People send me messages saying, hey, thank you for this episode.
Thank you for that episode. To have that, it's an
amazing feeling. Yeah,
and I totally agree. So I started
almost solo for every show, and now I'm doing a lot more
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interviews, and
it's so fun and it's so great making connections. It's so
great talking to people and learning something from
all my guests. Fantastic. Oh,
no. At one point, I
was, like, kind of feeling bad because I was like because like you said, I
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was learning from people. And I was like, oh, man,
should I feel selfish that I'm wanting to speak to these
people and have these interviews and learn? And one of my guests pointed
out to me, like, no, that's not being selfish. That's you self loving
yourself and the fact that you're sharing it with your audience. There's nothing
selfish about what you're doing. Right? Exactly. You know how your
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mind works if it trick you and makes you feel bad
with my guests? Like, no, what
you're doing is the complete opposite. Yeah.
I actually interviewed one of my friends not long ago,
and I put off editing it till the last minute because
I thought, oh, it's going to take a lot of editing because
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she's a friend. And I'm sure we laughed and we talked and stuff,
but when I went back and finally looked at it to release it,
it's like it's perfect. It's like we were totally at home and
comfortable with each other and it took very little editing. I think
it's a great episode.
Yeah. Enjoy the people you're interviewing because I think
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that's really important. It is.
It makes it much easier. And that's another reason I go
live now, is to save on the editing because
once I go live, it happens.
What am I going to erase? It happens. I take the audio
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and I upload it, but I look at
it as it gives me time to do other things as well.
It's funny because I enjoy editing other people's because
I do it for a living. But when it comes to mine, I'm like,
let me just save time on it and get it out.
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But it works. I have a great time doing it.
I love the guests that I've had this past year has just
been amazing. Some
of the guests that I've been able to have on the show. And
it's really helped,
really, because when I first started, I didn't
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really have a niche. I didn't have a
certain type of guest. I was
all over the celebrities,
actors, comedian. But then when I decided
to focus on bringing more entrepreneurs,
coaches, teachers,
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those episodes are really the ones that really started building
me up and me wanting to learn
about branding and marketing and all this other stuff,
it's helped me grow as a business management. Because
being able to speak to these people and learn from
them and be able to take the things that you
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learn and apply it, yeah.
It'S pretty amazing. So you do production now, right?
You're a producer. I mean, you would have never guessed in
2019. It's like, okay, let's start a podcast so I can become a
producer. Right.
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It was not a thought. It was not something that I was like, oh yeah,
I'm going to start podcasting. I'm going to start producing other people's podcasts.
It wasn't something, but
I found my purpose and I enjoy doing it.
It was something to be able to
it's my therapy now. It's my way of being able
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to express myself because I get to be myself when I'm behind the mic and
when I'm with interviewing my guests. Yeah,
exactly. Well, and I think that's why
so you just kind of went with the flow. You went with how you felt.
You were feeling good and you just kept moving with it. When I started doing
more guest episodes and well, just doing more episodes,
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period. First, I was releasing them like once every two weeks or so.
I decided, you know what, this is a lot of fun. I'm just going
to keep doing this because if I'm doing what I
love, something good is going to show up.
Not that there's not good or a lot
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of things that aren't good in my life right now, but something I
love is going to show up and I don't know where
it's taking me. I'm loving doing the podcast, so we'll just see where it goes.
Before I started my podcast, honestly, I didn't know my
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purpose. I didn't know what it was I was supposed to do
or what was meant for me. And
when I started podcasting
and I finally got the courage and
released the first episode, it just released so
much, lifted this big weight off of me,
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like, okay, did it here. You released it. It
didn't kill you. You're fine. You're still here standing.
What's the problem? Let's get it going. And I've
been grinding ever since.
It's been an amazing journey. I've
released episode 186 on my audio podcast.
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That's amazing. This past Monday,
and actually in the past five
months,
I've actually more than doubled
my audience. Oh, wow. Congratulations.
Doubled my downloads, like I said,
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because this last year alone has been
the guests that I've been bringing on the show.
You're an energy person, so you know the vibration. So the energy that
you put out there attracts the guests that you want. Right? And I've
been blessed to have those amazing
guests that come on and you know
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that the chemistry is there, the energy is there, just flowing. You're
able to have a great conversation as if you've known each
other for years and you just met just a few minutes ago.
Yeah, that's right. That's so
true. Well,
my podcast is called The Connectedness Podcast because I believe in all this
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connection. So, yeah, you're definitely speaking my language.
And just to go back though, you were talking about finding your
purpose. And I think it's interesting because obviously if
you had felt like you found your purpose ten years ago,
it changes because there were probably
podcasts ten years ago, but certainly not like there are
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today. And so I think
these things change for us. And being aware of
it and paying attention to what is drawing you next is
important. Not that you couldn't be happy being in production the rest of your
life, maybe, but probably something more, something
bigger is going to call to you eventually also.
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Okay, so people want to rush to get they want
to get their podcast monetized and all this other stuff.
And I've come to learn that
I've been able to monetize the skills that I've
learned from podcasting. So
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I don't necessarily need sponsors for my shows.
I've developed skills that I can offer my services to other people
now and charge the price I want to charge
because nobody wants to do it.
People don't want to spend time editing, don't want to spend time
clipping videos and I enjoy doing
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it. Yeah, well that's good.
Have you ever read what's the book? The big leap. Gay Hendrix.
It's about having a zone of excellence and a zone of genius.
So essentially there's four zones. Two of them we don't like.
Well, to work in. Zone of excellence is something we're really good at,
but we don't like it. So we usually stay in jobs in our zone of
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excellence because we're really good at it and we don't know how we ever make
that much money. But our zone of genius is where we love
it and we succeeded it. And very few of us make
that leap to the zone of genius, to where we
love what we're doing and we're supported by it.
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So if your zone of genius right now is editing
podcasts, videos fantastic. Or
audios, because you're right, it's not. For
everyone, it is not.
Good for you. Yeah, lots of business. Oh
no, it's been great. And then again,
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I've learned so many different other things as well. I've
been learning about automation, how to automate the whole
process of the podcast, getting out, sending out
emails to building an email list,
learning how to build the email list, so many different things
that I've learned as a podcaster that
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I can apply to a business. So
it's a blessing to being able to do what I
love and learn other skills and
talents to help me further
along. Yeah. I'm curious,
are you a teacher at all? Are these skills you'd want to teach other people
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or you just like doing it yourself? No,
I love teaching. I love being able to help
people. So when people ask me with certain things
on how to podcast or editing issues,
I'm more than willing to show people how to do it.
So that's why, I mean, it's opened up other avenues for me
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where eventually, I know eventually the ultimate
goal is to get into coaching as far as doing podcasts
and creating shows.
Yeah, that's fantastic.
So can I turn the tables here for a little bit?
Do you have a practice that you like to do as far as energy
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or connection with the world or the
universe? So when I get up in the morning,
because I have to be at work at four in the morning, so
I'm up by two. So from
215 to 230
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I sit down,
I wash up and brush my teeth and have my cup of coffee and just
sit down and just focus on what I want my day to be like.
And then after that I start, get in my shower, get
ready for work and send out whatever emails or whatever
stuff I need to prepare for that day. Because I
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work four to twelve. So when I get out of twelve, I come home, take
a nap and I start getting ready for my show.
For that day, I have
a little routine that I work on. But
it wasn't always like that. When I first started, it
was nothing like that. It was no structure to it whatsoever.
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I was just recording and just recording and recording. I had no
structure, no scheduling. But you started. Yes,
that was the key. That was the key. And that's one of the
things when people talk about visualization doesn't
work, is because
when you visualize it, yes, it's there, you see it, but if you don't
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start putting in the work to it, it's not going to happen.
So it's more than just visualizing it. You have to
actually put in the work. You have to really take that step and
take that risk. Right? Yeah,
totally. Putting the movement, the
action in. Absolutely.
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Nice. All right,
how do you help your clients identify the values and
align their goals with those values?
Yeah, I will
say some people, they resist it a
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little bit, and
sometimes it takes time. So many people say,
I can't sit down and be quiet and clear my mind
and try to figure out
what my divine wisdom is telling me to do.
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And
I think there's a lot of, I guess, expectation and
myths about what it means to meditate or
to sit down and be quiet. We think we have to have this nothing
in our head, which isn't true at all. Everyone has
thoughts coming in our head all the time, no matter what we're doing. It's just
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a matter of how we respond to it
and how we try to move forward. So
I actually
so I think at first, a really good way to do it, and I
actually still do this a lot, is
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I record my own little guided meditation for the
morning because sometimes when I sit down in
my chair, I just start thinking about
everything. There's a lot of life going on right now.
Sometimes I have a hard time focusing on what I
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should be focusing on. So I
record a meditation for myself and
I just kind of walk myself in this
meditation through what's my
dream, see myself achieving my dream. What's the steps to take
now? What's the stories? Why haven't I done this by now?
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And I also offer this to other people. They can
have my meditation or I recommend recording their own
because it's so much easier when,
like I said, those times of life just come up and you can't even think
about anything, to just hit the play button and just sit
and listen and just go through, listen to the
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meditation. At least for me, it's easier. So my point
was, though, sometimes that's what other people need as well,
and I like to have it
guided in a special way
so that I don't flat out ask, what is my
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purpose? What is my goal? It's not something like. That
it's from the point of you've already achieved
it. So you're here, you are this person that you think you want to
be. How did you get there? What did it take
to get there? Because it's amazing what things will come up
when we can get our little thinking brain out of the way
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and just being quiet in those few moments.
Although, I have to tell you so I get up at five or
530, getting up at 02:00 and doing something like that. I don't
know if I'd stay awake. Do you ever have problems or are you so used
to it by now that it's no problem?
Naps are my best friends. So when I get home
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from work, I'll come home and I'll take a nap.
Then I'll do the rest of what
I have to do to prepare for the show.
But I do believe in naps, believe me. Yeah,
that's a good idea.
Sorry, I just had to ask. That just an aside. I wanted to ask that
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so that's one of the ways I help people. The other thing I think is
important, and I want to make sure I say this, because
again, some people think we have to meditate and we don't.
Journaling is a way
writing down a question and leave the pen on the
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paper don't stop writing. But to the people that are
writers and journalers, I suggest they do something different. So
I suggest they either they paint or they start talking.
So turn on the recorder on the voice phone or
the voice recorder on the phone and just start talking
about something. Because sometimes
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our brain is expecting certain things when we're writing, if we're a writer.
So if we already do that a lot, we might
not get to our divine wisdom
as easy as if we just start
taking a paintbrush to paper, because it's
something you don't do. So you have to allow a different kind of wisdom come
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in through you. I always recommend
people try things that they don't do all the time
and see what happens. And it might
lead to podcasting, it might lead to being a writer, it might lead to being
an artist. You never know. That's not the goal here. The goal is to
get divine inspiration and what our next
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steps is, or what our dreams are. But
even gardening, something like that. So just some kind of
creative connection with spirit.
It's funny, because prior to podcasting,
I wouldn't say I was considered
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myself a creative type or whatever, which is not true, because back when I
was younger I enjoyed drawing and stuff. But
once I started podcasting, it's like these
creative juices just started flowing and I started doing graphic design
and I started doing all these different things.
And all it took was for me to
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believe that I was capable of doing something, believing in myself, that I
was creative, I was capable of creating
something. And so
it's being able to express yourself in a way
if you're a writer, maybe take a paintbrush and paint
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it. For me, it was being able to
speak and express myself
verbally. Right.
Did you do that much before? Were you much of a talker before?
No. Me either. I found myself talking.
I found myself talking when I was having
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interesting conversations where
knowledge was being exchanged. Okay.
So I found myself to
be more yes. As far as conversations
go, yes. But I didn't consider myself
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someone who's always talking all the time, though. Right? Now I
do.
Yeah, it's true. And you had mentioned
canva before and you were just talking about doing some of the graphics and stuff.
I mean, that's a great creative outlet. And I love Canva. It's
so much fun. The background canva,
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is that right? Yeah, that can background. I have it in the background. I use
canva to make it. Wow. Yeah. That's
fantastic.
A couple of intro videos that I've done for people. I've used
canva.
It's a great tool to use. I'm someone when
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someone tells me about a tool or something that will help
improve or make life easier for me as far as my
podcast goes, I start
going into it. I'll be looking videos, find
out how to use it, the best way to use it, whatever, how to create
them. YouTube is
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a great teacher for me. Oh, yeah, that's
good. Yeah. YouTube is wonderful, isn't it? Yeah,
I've learned so much. If there's something that if
it's a piece of equipment that I'm using and I don't know how to use
it properly, I am watching a video on
YouTube. Yeah, we have a lot of
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information available. It's great to be able to have access and put
it to use. Yeah, it is. Yeah.
I love it. But now is the time
where you get the solo layout and you get to plug away and let people
know where they can find you. Website, everything all
right. Fantastic, thanks. So my website is
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Revcarencleveland.com, and on there
you will find a couple of free resources. So if you
don't have any kind of a spiritual practice or a morning routine and you want
to figure out how to start something, I have
a free ebook on there called
seven Short and Simple Spiritual Practices that Will Change Your Life.
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Because it just takes a couple of minutes a day to start
changing your life. If there's something you want to shift in your life. So you
can pick that up at revcarencleveland.
comGIFT. And I
have a few other free things on there as well that I can't remember.
If you like animals, check me out. And I have different
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animal communication classes. I do take people on
safari, which is a fantastic transformational
experience in addition to being a triple lifetime
bucket list item. And
I look forward to connecting with anyone and everyone later so you can find
just about everything@revcarencleand.com, including
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my YouTube, my podcast, my free
gifts. Everything is there. And thank you. It's been
great to be here today. No, thank you.
How many times do you take people out to safari? A year? Yeah. Isn't that
crazy? I can't believe it. The first time I went
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on safari, it's like, okay, I'm going to check this item off, and
I have great pictures. Had a good time.
So I've taken two trips. Well, I've taken
several. I've been to Kenya five or six
times. I'm taking another group of
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16 people in September. Next year, we'll be going
back. I'm not sure what month yet, but
have you ever been? No.
You don't have to like animals.
It's an amazing experience. And not only the animals, but
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even being if someone is not used to being in
a world where there isn't always running water or
electricity and stuff, it brings up a lot in us
Westerners often, and even for
me, we're
going for almost two weeks this time in
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September. And, I mean, I like it.
So, full disclosure, I met a man and
married on my very first safari.
We got married. He lives here in the States with me, but
he has some great resources that I use to take people back
there. Awesome. Yeah. Oh,
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man, that's dope. To be able
to take people on safari, that's amazing.
You didn't think that would be something you would be doing, right?
Never. I always wanted to go on
safari, but that was never a goal of mine
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to take other people on safari. And it wasn't
until the end of the first safari I was like,
I think I should bring people back here because
every day of that trip was magical. It just got
more and more magical. And so, yeah,
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other people need to experience this. Awesome.
Thank you for being a guest. I greatly appreciate it. Don't leave
just yet. Let me close out the show and we'll chat a little bit off
the air. But it's been a pleasure having you on the
show. All right, well, thank you so much. It's been great to be here.
All right. And now it is time for
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shout outs. Big shout out to everybody
who's watching at home if you catch us on the replay.
Thank you. Big shout out to Ben from the BS Three network. How's it
going, Ben? Big shout out to my real wise FAM,
Poppy, J, brandy, J. Love you guys. Big shout out to the boss
lady, FINA. Love you and appreciate you, babe. Big shout out
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to our guests, Karen Cleveland, for coming through and having
a great conversation. Thank you. And as always,
a big, big shout out to all the essential workers out there. God bless you.
I'll be safe. You know? How wise does it? Peace out.