June 9, 2025 • 56 mins
Episode Description:
In this standout episode of the Stuck In My Mind Podcast, host Wize El Jefe welcomes Augustic Dunbar—a no-nonsense lifestyle coach for men, founder of the King’s Corner community, and proponent of unapologetic masculinity. With a reputation for helping men break limiting societal scripts and build lives of genuine freedom, Augustic brings his signature bold, unfiltered perspective to a conversation overflowing with insights on masculinity, money, mindset, and living life on your own terms.
The episode kicks off with Wize challenging Augustic to reveal the precise moment he turned away from society’s expectations. Augustic shares a raw, personal story about heartbreak, mentorship, and a pivotal lesson from his coach about self-reliance, compatibility, and the roots of embarrassment. He breaks down how truly knowing and accepting your human nature can dissolve negative emotions and free you from the burden of others’ opinions.
When it comes to masculinity, Augustic is unflinching. He dissects the idea of “king energy”—where self-respect and self-first living are non-negotiables—and recounts personal experiences that shape his views on relationships, gender roles, and the importance of men having clear standards and requirements. For Augustic, an “outstanding lifestyle” is defined by its inspirational power: living so audaciously that your life makes others marvel at what’s possible and motivates them to chase their own dreams. He strongly believes most men settle for less due to fear of sacrifice and change, not lack of opportunity.
Augustic doesn’t shy away from controversial topics. He tackles a major lie men need to unlearn: the notion that relationships are built by catering to what women want at the expense of their own needs. Through sharp analogies and hard-earned wisdom, he asserts that true success in relationships—and life—comes when men are purpose-driven, self-aware, and prioritize their goals and standards.
Shifting gears, Wize digs into Augustic’s role as a tech coach. Augustic details his journey in the lucrative tech field, especially in RPA (Robotic Process Automation), demystifying why now is the best time for men to break into tech and scale their income, all while maintaining work-life balance and peace of mind. His philosophy? Build from a place of rest, not constant hustle, and set boundaries so you can enjoy both material success and personal well-being.
The dialogue moves fluidly between practical advice and deeper, philosophical discussions. Augustic reflects on being a father from a young age and how parenthood shapes his values around leadership, authenticity, and legacy. He openly discusses vulnerability as a masculine strength, challenging stereotypes by sharing his own openness with emotions, and stresses the necessity for transparency and clear communication in male friendships and relationships.
Faith and spirituality also make an appearance as Augustic explains his evolving beliefs—from forced church attendance as a child, to passionate atheism, and now to a more mature, nuanced appreciation of spiritual growth and self-improvement, grounded in universal principles and self-love.
The societal landscape is a recurring theme, with Augustic and Wize analyzing why masculinity is often devalued or mislabeled as “toxic.” Augustic insists, with unwavering conviction, that both masculine and feminine energies are essential—and that true masculinity is about controlled power, not aggression or weakness. He sharply critiques trends that undermine male confidence, the demonization of traditional male roles, and the generational shift in relationship dynamics.
Listeners are given a front-row seat to advice on reinvention, overcoming the fear of “starting late,” and the crucial role of quality male friendships. Augustic’s answer to men feeling “behind”: progress, no matter how small, is the real source of happiness.
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And welcome to another episode of Stuck in my Mind
podcast. I am your host, W I Z E
and today's guest is not your average coach. He's a lifestyle
architect for men who is tired of being told to play small.
He's a straight talking, no fluff lifestyle coach, helping men
embrace their full masculine power while building freedom based
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lives on their on their terms. Whether he's coaching men
to six figure tech jobs with 20 hour work weeks
or helping them unlock any strength, Augustic is on a
mission to help you become unapologetically
yourself. He's the founder of King's Corner community, host of
Kings Corner podcast, and a rising voice in the pro
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masculine movement. Reminding men that being a man is a
privilege, not a problem. His bold message,
create an outstanding lifestyle by choosing you first.
Welcome to the show Augustic Dunbar.
Yo man, I'm glad to be here. I appreciate that introduction.
Phenomenal. A, A plus. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
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It's something I've, I've started to do more, is really
introduce my guests. Yeah, thank you. I appreciate it, man.
So let's just jump right into this, man.
What was the moment that made you say, I'm done living by
society script? You know what? That is
a phenomenal question. So I'll tell you.
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I had a relationship with a sugar baby, right? She had
left. I was sad. I won't, I won't say heartbroken. That's a little bit too
dramatic. But I was very, very sad, right? And I
hired a coach. His name is Miles Cunningham. Shout out to him. And
he is a, he runs what he calls the masculine
Identity membership, right? And he told me
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a couple of things. Two things. I learned lots of things, but two
things stuck out. One, he said, bro, you can't lose
a woman. She only makes room for
someone who's more compatible. And I'm like, that makes a
lot of sense. Because if she was compatible, if we were compatible, she,
we'd still be together, right? And the second thing he
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told me now to provide context on this.
I am very, very big on human nature
and science and biology. Like, I can read about the brain and the
human animal,
right? All day. I love it, love it, love it. And the more I understand
about humans, the more I understand about men, the more I understand about myself,
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right? It's really that simple. And once I'm understanding of myself, I don't need to
judge myself. It's just like, oh, okay, that's my nature. That's why it's so damn
difficult for me to be with these kids all day, that's not in my nature,
okay? And I. I
love to study emotions, okay? So anger, joy,
sadness, disappointment, like, each of them are
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generated by thoughts that we have in our subconscious that we
have yet to bring to our conscious. And I found that once I bring the
thought from my subconscious to my conscious, the emotion
goes away, is what I've learned, right? And I can nerd
about. Nerd out about that a little bit more. But essentially, what he told me,
we were talking about embarrassment, right? We were talking about. Because one of his rules
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is like, we don't care what people think about us. We do what we want,
not because of outside forces, but because we want to do them.
And the argument I hit him with, and I just knew I was going to
be right. I was like, well, there's the. Like, what if. What about
embarrassment, right? When you look at embarrassment, what it. What
it makes us want to do is like, kind of just hide and
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not be seen and be left alone, right? Whenever you're embarrassed, naturally that is your
body's response. And I look at the history
of human civilization and, like, how we
came to have it, and essentially what it was, it basically
became a thing. Because imagine it's thousands of years
ago, and you and I live in a tribe, right? There's 150 people, and
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let's say you do something egregious, just terrible, right?
And the thought is, if I get
kicked out of this tribe, I've not got a forage for my own
food, my own water. I've got a. I've got to fend for myself, and I'm
probably going to die. Henceforth, we developed embarrassment
such that we would sit still, stop doing whatever the hell that we did we
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were doing so that we're not ousted out of the tribe. That is where
I believe embarrassment comes from, right? Like,
we don't. I don't think anyone can prove it or whatever that that's the
scientist best guess, based on what I've read, right?
And so when I presented that to him, I'm like, yeah, no, I think it's
probably wise that I care about what people think or I care about fitting into
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society. And because that's where, you know, it came from, right? It was. It was
meant to keep us safe, okay? Or keep us alive.
And he was like. And this. I'll never forget this conversation. He
said, but being ousted from the tribe and the society
only matters if you don't know how to get your own food. If you
don't know how to get your own water if you don't know how to fend
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for yourself and, and stay alive. He's like, if you had the
proper knowledge, wisdom and, and abilities,
then you would be you, you would say what you want, you would do what
you want and you, and you wouldn't have to worry about being out there,
not being able to survive because you have survival skills, right?
And so that's when I realized, like, okay, basically on what
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he just said, there is no benefit to me wanting
to fit into society. There's, there's just no benefit to
that. And I think about all the great men, right? From the Michael Jordan, so
the Tony Robbins, the Tom Brady's, the, you know,
any great man. And I don't mean like a good man, I just mean a
very successful, influential man. They tend to stand out,
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right? And that is part of masculinity, right? One of the defining
characteristics of testosterone. Or a man who has a higher testosterone, he's more
disagreeable, he's more willing to say no. He's more likely to push
back, right? So once I had that conversation that day, I
literally just stepped, stop and think. I don't care
what people think about me. And when I do catch myself caring about what people
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think about me, I ask myself, what would I do if I, in this moment,
right here, right now, if I truly didn't care? And I proceed.
Okay, how, how
did the idea of king energy first come to life for you?
That's a good question too, man. So I am, I'm used to being
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pampered. I'll just put it plainly.
I'm used to being bathed, rub, put lotion on me, talk to me
kindly, nicely, all these, that's how I'm used to being treated. And if a woman's
not willing to treat me that way, then she just doesn't like me enough. Okay?
And I remember the first time I was like getting,
you know, bathed by a woman. Now, not just bathe because that means like a
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tub. I don't like subs. I do table showers, right? So it's kind of like
imagine like a shower room, but there's a table and you're laying down and you're
kind of getting. Someone gets a sponge or a towel. Like I was getting bathed
for the first time and I was like, wow, this is amazing,
right? Like, there's is, there's no way you can't be relaxed,
right? Like, to me, that feels like love. And I remember the
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first time it happened, I was like, man, this is amazing. This must be what
kings felt like, you know, way back in the day.
And I started to think to myself, well, what else did kings have? They had
multiple women, right? They had power, they had
influence, they had riches. And, like,
to top it off, like, they didn't have running water, they didn't have ac, they
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didn't have electricity. They didn't have a lot of the. Look, we all. If you're
in America today, you have more luxuries than
any and every king has ever had. So I looked at all that and
I'm like, bro, I am a king. Like, I feel like a king in this
moment, and I'm going to live as such day to day, right?
So that's. That's where it came from. That's where it started. And then I call
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myself, you know, the king maker, because it's like, once you start winning at such
a high level, it's like, well, what's next? Right? It's
helping the next person win at that level. Right.
And I think iron sharpens iron. And so I'm here to
literally just live my life out loud, be the best version of me that I
possibly can, and inspire other men to do the same.
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Okay, how do you define
an outstanding lifestyle? And why do most men settle for less?
Good question, man. So when I say outstanding
lifestyle, what I mean is. Let
me ask you something. Well, have you ever seen
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someone do something and you're like, holy, I didn't even know that was possible.
Yes. And it maybe inspires you to want to do something similar?
That's what I mean. That's what I mean by an outstanding life. Like, it's so.
Like, I look at Hugh Hefner and I'm like, how did he pull off when
he pulled off all those women loving him at his. He. I think he
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had like, seven, eight girlfriends at once. Or
you look at somebody like a. I don't know. I. I
don't. Did someone hit someone? A trillionaire, whoever the first trillionaire is
or is going to be or whatever. Like, that's an outstanding life. Like,
to. To. To do something at such a large scale.
Right. That it makes someone else say,
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damn, dude, that's impressive. That makes me want to go after my dreams if he
can do it. And that's the other thing. I don't ever see anyone do
anything that I believe that I can't do. Yeah, that's. That's just
how I am. I truly do believe whatever I put my mind to, I
can accomplish as long as I really really, really, truly want it.
So that's what I mean when I say an outstanding life, one that inspires someone
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else to say, damn, dude, that's cool. I want to go for my dreams, too.
And why most men settle, why most people settle is fear.
It's fear because you typically have to give up
something to get what you want. Like, you have to. You can be good, but
in order to be great, you've got to give something up. It usually means you
got to spend more time on something and less time on something
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else. I see so many men who are in
these marriages where they say things like, happy wife, happy life. Those
are the most miserable men on planet Earth, in my opinion. I know, because I've
been there, right? And they want a great
marriage, right? But it's like they're afraid to leave and lose half
their stuff to this. To this person. So they kind of
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just stay out of fear. And the way I live my life is I don't
live with regrets. I'm. I will die with no regrets, okay? I'm going
to do any and everything that I set my mind to. And there. And that
comes with the. The unfortunate event
of sometimes of like, really setting your sights on something and
then getting it and then realize, man, I don't want this. But I wouldn't have
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known had I not gone for it, right? So
fear. Fear is the reason why most people end up settling.
You talk a lot about masculine identity. What's one lie men need to
unlearn immediately? Oh, man.
Oh, a lie that men need to unlearn. You know
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what? I'm be original with this, that
you get a woman by giving her what she wants. Is that
true? I. Tell me it. It really and truly does not matter
what a woman wants. And we could solve so many problems if we just took
that whole line of thinking out of our heads. Like,
it does not matter, bro. Because if a woman wants a relationship with you and
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the only way she can get is if you give it, right, then she must
do what it takes to earn that for you from you, right?
There's a lot of similarities or there's very few differences between
dating and, like, business, right? Or sex and business.
And I can say, I really, really, really want to work at Google, but
they're going to have rules and requirements for me, right? If I want to
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work there, so I can say, hey, I really, really want to work at Google
and I want to do nothing and get paid. Well, it's like, they're not going
to let that happen. They don't care what I want. They want me
to provide value to them in exchange for
income. So, so many men, they get lost
in this like, oh, happy wife, happy life. Or, you know, the wife wants this,
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she wants the car she wants. And it's like, that's how we end up with
burnout. You put what she wanted and what everybody else wanted ahead of you
for so long that you no longer know who you are. I talk to so
many men, and that's the problem. That's their issue. I know because, again,
that used to be me. But no one's going to appreciate you
more than you do. No one's going to cheer on you more than you do.
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No one's going to be in a. No
one's going to want what's best for you more than you, okay?
I tell men that women are selfish, okay? And I don't mean that in
a negative way. I think selfishness is good. So when I say selfish, I mean
they know what they want and they're willing to ask you for it over
and over and over again, okay? Until you give in or until you
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say no. And what
men do, I think is the exact opposite. They're so. They're so
selfish, selfless. So that might be another thing I think they need to
unlearn. Like, you ever been on the airplane and they say, hey,
you know, if the cabin pressure goes down
yourself, then others men do it backwards. We try to take care of
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everyone else and now we're burnt out, broke, busted and
disgusted and no one cares. Why would they care
about you more than you care about you? So I really do think
living the best lifestyle possible is based on
you being selfish, saying no more to saying no
to others more and saying yes to yourself more.
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My life has never been better.
You, you help men break into tech and scale to
250k a year. Why tech and why
now? So I've been in tech
now for over a decade, almost a decade and a half. And so
it's just my profession. This is just what I've been doing. It's the thing that
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I know easiest. It's the thing that I can turn my brain off and do.
It's almost like puzzle solving. Like it's. It comes very, very simple to me. I
find it fun. And so because
you know how they say that, which you have
a lot of access to, you tend to take for granted.
So I've just been in tech for so long. I've been living the tech lifestyle,
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making tech money, working remotely all these Things that I have
had it so long that I didn't realize that there's a whole world of people
out here who are really struggling. They really, really do want to get in. They
just have no idea what the hell they're doing, right? So I just realized I
have an opportunity now. The specific type of technology
that I teach and show people how to use is called RPA
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is short for Robotic Process Automation, which doesn't really tell you anything.
It's a marketing term, basically. Think about it like this.
When you're coding, what code is is just instructions that you give to a
computer to make it do a certain task, right? The
thing about coding, though, it's a relatively
difficult skill to learn by yourself with no support,
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no mentorship, no guidance, no nothing. Because there's a thing called syntax.
And syntax is basically like writing sentences, but within
code. And just like in a sentence, you need a period, you need
commas, you need punctuation. And if that's off, then your sentence is not
grammatically correct, right? Same thing with code, except it's.
You can have 200 lines of code and you could be missing one colon and
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the whole thing doesn't work. So it's a very tedious
thing to learn. Now, the thing about RPA is that
it's like coding, but it's significantly easier,
significantly simpler. The example that I give is that let's say you build
homes. Let's say I build homes. Let's say you build homes by
using hammer and nail and wood and you getting your knees and all that.
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Let's say that I 3D print homes. So I push a
button, I print a wall, I push that button two to three more times. I
print two to three more walls, I push another button, I print a roof, I
put it on top of the house, Boom, it's built, right?
So it's just going to be faster for me. It's going to. The learning curve
is going to be shorter for me, and I'm going to get good at this
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quicker than you're going to get good at building homes the way that you're doing,
right? The average developer, I'm sorry, RPA developer today
is earning a hundred and thirty thousand dollars and quite a
few of them, at least the ones that I know. The real players in the
game, they're working multiple jobs, right? So that's how they're making 250,
300, $400,000 a year. And
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now you say, why now? I just, I got to the point where my
taxes were insane. I was Working so many jobs, taxes were crazy. I was told
I needed to start a business. So that's why now. That's why I initially
started it. But the amount of relationships and the amount
of just help and service I've been
able to render to the marketplace has been really, really cool. So it's been more
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rewarding than I ever anticipated.
Okay, what's
one mindset shift that transformed your bank account and your
peaks? My bank account and my piece.
My bank account and my piece. I would say this idea of
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creating from a place of rest. We live in the western world
where we have what I call hustle culture, right? Which is
max out, do as much as you can, don't do enough, do
extra, do more. And at some point it's almost like, bro,
when is enough enough? Like, I have a mentor who I love, man. Dude's a
multi millionaire. And he was reviewing some kind of
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article that somebody wrote about Elon Musk. And he was like, look.
He was like, look, this guy works 16 hour days
every day for 10 to 12 years straight to make, you
know, a billion dollars or whatever. And he was like, bro, you can keep that.
He's like, you can keep that. I'd rather be at home, you know, every day
by 4:00. And I make several millions, right? And when I
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heard him talk like that, I'm like, bro, that's what I want. I don't. I'm
not out here competing. There's always going to be somebody with more money, more fame,
more success. I want to live a lifestyle on my terms,
right? Where I get to, I'm not working all damn day. I'm done by like
two or three o' clock. I've got time to spend with my family, with my
kids. I've got time to go see a comedy show. I've got time to go
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get a massage, right? So there's this idea of creating from a place of
rest and knowing that enough is enough, right? The goal that
you said is the goal that you set. Here's the amount of work that you
need to get done, or here's the. Here's the amount
of input that needs to be done and space it out over enough time
to where you build in time for rest. Because rest is important too,
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right? It goes work to
accomplish something. Rest and then celebrate.
Resting and celebrating is very important. And I think that in our
culture, we only focus on work. We don't focus on rest, nor do we focus
on celebration.
Was there ever a time you doubted your masculine energy
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was too Was there any ever a time you doubted masculine energy was
too much? Oh, all the time. All the time. I'm
very. I can be very direct. I can be very brash. I can
be very abrupt. And that's just the way I talk. That's the
way my dad talks. So, you know, he's my. He's my father, so I.
I get it from him. But I started to realize that my
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tone can rub people the wrong way inadvertently. And I've also
learned that I can say the exact same thing. Same exact words, same exact pace.
But if I change my tone and soften it, the. The message is received
a lot better. Right? So there was a point in time
in my life where in my young 20s, I was definitely an. I liked getting.
Getting under people's skin. I definitely liked. They call it jonesing. They're going
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back and forth. And until I got my feelings hurt, I said, you know what?
I'm not doing this no more. This does not benefit me. Only black people do
this. I don't think any other race does this as an adult.
So, yeah, that. That used to be a thing back in the day.
Okay,
hold on. How do you personally navigate relationships while staying
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rooted in your masculine frame? I actually find that
very easy to do. It's very simple. My rules are very, very, very simple.
One, you must have requirements for women. You must have requirements for
women. Most men don't value their time. Most people don't value their
time. And most men are sad. Most men are lonely. And what
they'll do is they'll get a woman, or they'll get a girlfriend or
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a sneaky link or whatever you want to call her, and they'll just spend time
with her inadvertently, like she doesn't have to qualify for his time. And then
when they are spending time together, they're not doing anything productive. Okay?
And I say that every. Any time
I'm dealing with any woman, she's doing something for me. She has a role
to play. I have a schedule. I have a set routine. And she's going to
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fit into my schedule, into my routine, or it's just not going to work.
Because if you start to. If you start to
do. Do things for women, now you're simping.
But when the woman does things for you, she's attracted,
right? So every relationship has the pursuer and the
pursued. Right? Every relationship has a power dynamic. There's
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never any two people in a relationship that like each other equally.
One person always likes the other person more, even if it's only a Little
bit. Okay. And from my experience and my research and all
these things, it just makes for a better relationship. When
the man is the one who is being pursued and the woman is the one
who's doing the pursuing, the person who is being pursued
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gets to be with the one who loves them.
The person who's doing the pursuing gets to be with the one they love,
the one who is getting pursued. They
don't have a high and low of the emotion. It's more of like
a consistent, like, you know, they're cool, I like them, you
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know, type of thing. But they get consistency. Okay.
The person who is pursuing gets the highs
and lows of love and anger and despair and all these other things that come
with relationship. And that's the thing about women. Women need
emotional volatility. Women are chaotic by their nature.
Okay? So it just fits that role, fits them better.
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Where men mess up, they swap it, and they are pursuing a woman,
they're chasing a woman. But, bro, if she's running, that means she doesn't want to
be caught, at least not by you. Right? Because that same woman you're chasing is
chasing someone else. So
I'm not gonna lie. I started rambling. I'm not sure how I remember the question,
but hopefully I answered it. Now you did.
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How has father fatherhood shaped your views on leadership
and legacy. Fatherhood? So I've been a father
since 19, so literally I graduated high school. A
year later I had a child. So I've been a father this entire time.
And so much so. I mean, I'm 30 something
now, so I'll. I'll be coming up shortly on having
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been a father longer than I had not been a father. And you said
on legacy and leadership. Yes, I, I, me personally.
So leadership, to me is a few things. It's, it's. It's service. It's
leading by example. It's being willing to have tough kind of
conversations, be honest with people. Right. Being able and being willing
to. To have
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confrontations when necessary. You said
leadership and legacy. I don't really think about legacy, to be totally
honest with you. Maybe I'm not old enough. Maybe I don't care enough right now.
But all at this very moment, man,
I just care that my legacy is, bro, this guy did what the he wanted
to do. He got up every day. He meant what he said, he said what
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he meant. And he lived the lifestyle that he said he was going to. And
when he was wrong, he said, hey, I was wrong. And when he was right,
he said, I Told you I was right. Right.
And so that's it, man. And I totally believe that no one makes
it out of their parents homes unscathed. Right. Both of my parents
were drug addicts growing up. They're both clean now. Very
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grateful for that. But at the same time, like you
ever heard that phrase, hard times make
strong men. Strong men make good times. Good times make
weak men. Yeah. Right. So I'm in a generation
now where all of my friends are far more successful than what their
parents were and our kids are far softer.
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Right. So, like, do I think that my children are going to make it out
of my home without something being scarred or me having said something that really
hurt their feelings? And they still feel that way in their late 20s. Ah, it's
probably gonna happen. I'm probably say all kind of. Right. I'm gonna do the best
that I can, though, just the same way that my parents did. Right? Yeah. And
that's. That's all I can do, is just do the best that I can do.
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Okay. What, what, what's your advice for men who feel like
they're late to the. Game in terms of what?
Everything. Care.
I would say there's never a. There's never. It's never too late to
reinvent yourself. It's never too late to reinvent yourself.
And here's the thing, bro, like I said, I'm in my early 30s. I can't
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wait to my 50s. Men don't reach their earning potential, their highest
earning potential, till their 50s. Right. That's also
when the most women want you. So, like, if you're under 50, it's 55, I
think. So if you're under 55, bro, you still have time. And,
and at the end of the day, bro, I heard Andrew Tate say
this, and I do believe it to be true. He says, whether you're homeless, under
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a bridge, and you're surrounded by good friends, or you're
in the air on a private jet flying across the Pacific and you're with good
friends. He's like, that's the best that life gets, period.
Like, after, like, regardless of the money and the fame and success, it
comes back down to relationships. And I only
associate and really call people friends who, who add
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value to me and who I really genuinely feel as though care for me. And
I have a very strong friend group. Right. And I make friends everywhere that I
go. So, yeah, man, it's never, it's never too late.
And just realize that not having what you want doesn't
mean that you're Late to the party or anything like that. We, bro, everybody doesn't
have what the they want. Like, we're on a constant pursuit of getting what we
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want. And then once you do get it, guess what? There's gonna be some more
that you want that you don't have. Right? So it's like, there's no need
to judge yourself compared to anyone else.
It's just get up and go, become the best version of you. Right? And
another thing I'll add to that is progress equals happiness. So if a man feels
like I'm not where I want to be and I'm behind and I'm late, it's
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like, well, what are you progressing on? I guarantee you, if you were progressing on
something, you'd feel good, right? If someone weighed 500 pounds and their goal was
to get to 150 the moment they saw the scale hit 498, they'd be
excited. Why? Because they're making progress. Do they have what they want yet?
No, but they're on their way. And if they're consistently making progress and they're
consistently happy.
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Can a man be masculine and still vulnerable? And how do you
personally balance that? Yes. I'm so glad you asked that. Yeah, man. I'm
very different in this regard. I. I cry, okay?
I've cried several times in my lifetime. I actually enjoy crying, okay? I don't
give a fuck what nobody thinks. It is a biological function meant to
help you when your emotions become too overwhelming. Okay? Crying and throwing
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up, both those two things I don't know about you, will. When I do those
two things where I feel way better than what I did before I got done
doing those things. So I don't cry often, but I
do believe that. I don't know if vulnerability is
the right thing to say, but I think that transparency and authenticity is a super
power. Right, people? We're all human, bro.
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And there are some people who are like, man, I'm fearless. I'm not scared of
nothing. It's like, bro, yes, the you are again. Fear is a biological function.
You're afraid of something. And I tend to get people to open up and trust
me rather quickly because I have nothing to hide. And I don't give a what
they think about me. I'm just open and honest. Like, hey, yeah, man, I did
this. I had, you know, a relationship with a girlfriend. I've been cheated on several
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times. I've cried, I boohooed, and I've taken all that. Now I've gotten better. So,
you know, when I. When. When I don't care what people think about
me, therefore I share everything. My shortcomings, my flaws, my
vulnerabilities, all that. It typically gets them to open up and say, damn, bro, this
is a real genuine dude. And then they feel comfortable sharing their
flaws and vulnerabilities and all that there too. So. And I think it's
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also really, really hard to have a, A quality relationship when you're not
being totally, truthfully, like, honest about how you feel and what,
what you're struggling with, right. I think that a lot of
men, maybe our parents generation, like, they didn't really
have therapy. They didn't have outlets. They didn't have, like,
the ability to work a corporate job and make six figures and then, you know,
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spend that extra time reinventing themselves or reading
books on therapy or emotions. Like, they,
they just didn't have that. And so I just know the best version of me
is able to accurately identify all of his emotions. He's able to communicate
them. He's able to be open and honest. And
I think that so many people, so many,
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so much conflict comes when there's miscommunications
and when there's a lack of vulnerability, right? Like, I have a
friend who like me and I have, like, this is one particular friend.
And he will literally say, he's like, hey, bro, that hurt my feelings,
right? Like, he'll come outside. Men don't say that, right? Men don't say
that. And so because me and him have that kind of conversation or that kind
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of relationship, we never really have conflict because it's like, ah, my bad, bro. I
didn't, I didn't mean it that way. This is what I meant. He's like, oh,
okay, I got you. Right? And when you learn how to have
effective relationships and communicate effectively, I would argue that it's
not possible without vulnerability.
What role does your faith or spirituality play in your
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mission? So I've.
I have a habit of going from one
extreme to another. Okay? So growing up, I was forced to go
to church by my mother and my aunt.
And my mother was the woman who would like, shout and
scream and pass out. And they put the little cloth over and I'm just
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like, this is so embarrassing. Please let me go home. Right? And so as I
got older, I really, when I say older, I
mean 18, 19, 20. I really like, shunned religion. Like, get that away from me.
That's. That's ridiculous. I can't see a guy in the sky. You think he's
the reason that the, the surgeon did. Well, what about all the, you know, years
of study that the surgeon put on himself and all that? And I was very
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much a hardcore like atheist at one point, right? And then
I realized, well, that's too much energy and effort. I don't care. Believe what you
believe. Just, just leave me alone. And as I'm starting to grow and
mature, I start to get mentorship
because self love and self investment. So there's no amount of money that I'm not
willing to spend on me, right? Even if I pay a mentor five grand
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a month, I'm paying him, but I'm investing in me, okay? Because I'm
extracting wisdom. And one of the things that I learned
is that there's some good stuff in the Bible, man, regardless of whether
I agree with all the principles or the teachings. And you then start to learn
a lot of the religions are based off all the same stuff. They have a
lot of the same principles and virtues and things like that.
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And one of the things I really and truly believe
is that if, if the Bible says that our job,
if, if the Bible says that we are made in God's image, right?
That means that we are all gods to some degree. Not the
God, not your God, not, you know, a
big guy, maybe a little God, a lesser God, but a God, right? If we're
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made in the image of a God. Because if I said I have a dog
or if I have something here in the image of a dog, you would say
that's a dog, right? So if we are all gods
and the Bible says that the job is for, for us is to become more
Christ like, meaning to become more like him. To me, that means
to improve my state of mind, my state of being, like to
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become the best version of me. And it also aligned with my idea
of selfishness, of doing what's best for me. So now when I
think about spirituality, I don't think of religion, right? If you look at
spiritual or spirits, spiritual it is thing. It basically
means things unseen, feelings, emotions,
songs, music, words like you can't see any of these things,
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but we know that they exist, right? So now
when I think spiritual, I think of it in more of a, in a tangible
way. It's just things unseen. And every man
is two men, right? You have your physical body, right? You want to strengthen
that. That's playing sports, lifting weights, drinking water, those kinds of things.
And then there's your spirit, the spiritual man, right? These are,
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or your spiritual muscles. These are things like courage, faith,
right? Fear is spiritual. You can't see fear, but you can. You can feel it,
right? So there's definitely a spiritual
world. Whether is there is or is not a
God, I don't know. Maybe I. I don't care. I just know that my job
is to become the best version of me, right? And that is in line with
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all of the. The. The religious
texts out there. And
yeah, bro, I mean, that's. That's really it. Spirit. Spiritual stuff is very big to
me. I still have much, much more to learn in that regard.
So. Speaking of spirit, bro, I'm a man of comfort. I love comfort. You see,
I'm in my Versace robe now. Like, I. If it's not comfortable, it's not for
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me. Some men are like, ah, comfort. Yes. You get too comfortable. I like comfort.
If you don't like comfort, go sleep under a bridge. What do you need? A
house where. If you don't like comfort, Bro, everybody likes comfort. Right? And that's a
spiritual thing, right? So one of my challenges is, like, as I become
more successful, I spend more money and things like this. Like, I need
to remind myself that you need discomfort too. Like,
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it's not comfortable when I'm in the gym. It's not comfortable to have
uncomfortable conversations. It's not comfortable to
spend $50,000 a month on marketing. Right? But I must
grow to be the kind of guy who can do all those things
and not get too comfortable with. With comfort, if that makes sense. Because too
much of anything can be a bad thing. I know you have to make yourself
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uncomfortable. That's. That's what drove me to start the
podcast and, and do. What I'm doing is. I mean, I stepped out of my
comfort zone, absolutely made myself uncomfortable, and started
doing stuff that I wasn't regularly doing.
And so that's what led me to build up the platform that I'm doing.
Yes, sir. Congrats to you for that, man. Thank you. It can be difficult. Oh,
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yeah, I can. It can. What's one societal trend that's killing
male confidence right now? Thinking that
masculinity is bad and femininity is good, when in
reality, we're just two halves of a whole. Like, we both
need each other. So there's the
red pill community and then there's feminism. Right?
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They are equal opposites. Like, feminism existed, and
men's response to that is like this red pill. And
feminists hate men, and red pill men hate women. Right? And it's just
like, no, bro. Like, both those extremes are stupid. We
need one another. If One of us stops existing or stops
having sex with the other, the whole race or the whole species goes extinct. Right?
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And so I think this comes from an inability to understand
one another, right? An inability to understand one another.
And so, yeah, man, this. This whole thing about
masculinity, I think we need to appreciate the differences, right?
So I remember I used to think, like, like, one of the things the red
pill guys say is all women are delusional. And they'll bring a bunch of women
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on a panel, and then they'll laugh at them and ask them a bunch of
questions, and they realize these. The women are dumb and they're. They're delusional, but it's
like, no, bro, like, delusion is their superpower. Like, they're go. They've
been delusional their entire life. They're going to continue to be delusional. That is
part of womanhood. Okay? Just like, I think guys
are dumb, right? Sometimes where, like. Well, like, if a guy
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makes a mistake or does something, or he might rub someone the wrong way or
just. Just do something stupid. I'm talking about young boys, really. I'm thinking, like,
13 to, like, 19. We do all kind of stupid, and it's typically because we
don't know any better. And that's just part of being young is.
Is being naive and not knowing any better, right? And so,
yeah, man, I think we don't need to demonize. I don't think femininity gets
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demonized. I think masculinity gets demonized. And you see men
dressing up in dresses and. Which is, bro, that's what you want to do. That's
what you want to do, but I'm not gonna applaud you for it. Like, you
don't get cookies. You don't get rewards. Like, but we have society
saying, hey, it is. It is better for you to be a nice man,
a weak man, an effeminate man, a man who would never harm
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anyone. And it's like, no, you need men to be dangerous
when it calls for danger, right? You want a man who.
You want to be a man who is dangerous, who is capable of being dangerous,
but who is wise enough to know when to. And when not to be.
That's the message that I think we need to be spreading.
And. And right now, it's like
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they're talking about masculine energy is toxic. No
such thing. There's no such thing as toxic masculinity. And it's crazy because
it. It's like you want.
Just because you want a certain lifestyle because you want a certain thing
that it's toxic. Especially. I was. I'm. I'm from
a different generation. I was born in night in the 70s, and.
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And I. I was brought up completely different.
And so I see how a lot of these relationships now, and
I'm like, this is crazy. Like, what's. What's the craziest thing
you think, like, what. What are you seeing happen today? That if you saw happen
in, like, the 80s, you'd be like. They'd be like, what the.
Oh, yeah.
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It's like, if you're a man's man, there's something wrong with
you. Like, if. If you're. If you're. If you're
the kind of man that wants. I'm not saying my
wife has to be weighing on me hand and feet and everything like that,
but there's. There's roles into this. There's certain
rules that we have, and. And they just don't want
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to. They just seem to, like, want to get rid of them.
Yeah, I agree. They. They. I think. Here's what I.
Here's what I. I have a friend who. Who said this. He said.
Hold on one second. My apologies. Hold on one second. Just
give me one second. Sorry, everybody. And in real life, I have
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my grandson here, and I have to pay attention to him. Right?
Quick, give me.
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Sorry about that, everybody. My apologies,
but. Yeah, where were we?
We were talking about masculinity
and it being toxic. Yes. Yeah, that's not. That's not a thing.
Oh. Oh. I was saying that masculinity
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has made the world so safe that we almost don't value it.
Not even almost, that it's not valued. I have a friend who says
that women really, every day wake up and
think, oh, I don't need a man, or we don't need men. And it's like,
who do you think builds these roads in these buildings and in
these machines and these. Like. It's
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like there are so many men who are invisible
to a woman. Like the guys who are working on
farms, who are building things, who are fixing things, who are maintaining
things, who are cleaning things, right? And it's like. Because
there are hundreds of thousands and millions of men doing that. And
now food shows up in the grocery store and nail polish shows
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up at the fucking nail salon, and food shows up at the restaurant.
It's like they real. They think they don't need men. No, you don't need
a man to be yours, to take care of you. But if those
men all stopped, your life would Cease as you know
it, right? So it's like the world is so safe that they don't,
they really start to think that they don't need men. But it's like
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the menace. The world is safe because of men, right? Men
don't come and attack our country because there are men at the borders
keeping them from, from doing so. They know they will be hurt by other men,
right? And I had, I heard a comedian, Ryan Davis, say this. I really did
not like this when I first heard it, but he's, he's true. He's right.
He said the most dangerous thing to a man, I'm sorry, to a woman,
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is a man, Right? Because the average woman cannot fend
for herself against a man, right? And so when you look at that problem,
I say, okay, if I have a daughter and I wanted her to be safe
and, and this, the most dangerous thing to her is a man, well, then how
does she defend herself? I don't think she tries to defend herself by herself. I
think she finds a good man that wants to love, honor and
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protect her. Right? So I think it's more fair to say that the most
dangerous thing to a woman can be a man if she chooses
wrong. But most men aren't violent. Most people don't even know how to
fight, right? So, yeah, I think
masculinity is not valued because we live in a world that is relatively
so safe. Like, we're not in barbarian times. You're not having a barter for things.
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It's not, you know, meet a woman, bonker over the head and drag her back
to your cave. None of that is happening. So much so that women can go
out, be drunk, be inebriated, ass out, titties
out, and get back home safely without anything ever happening to her,
right? That is, that in and of itself is a miracle.
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I kind of know what's going to be answered this, but how do you feel
with critics who say your message is too
aggressive? I don't care. They don't have to listen to me. They don't have to
follow me. It's like, bro, I'm speaking two men and four men in a time
where masculinity is not appreciated, bro, like I tell me, bro, my
pillars are self love, self respect, self acceptance, and gratitude, right?
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And when I talk about self acceptance, going back to what I said earlier
about, like, I learned more about human nature, then I learned more about
male nature, and I'm learning more about myself in the process, and I start to
realize, okay, there's nothing Wrong with me, bro. Like, this is just my
nature. For example, there was a
point in time in history where women would be stoned when they got their periods
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right, when they were bleeding, right? And it's like, how stupid is that? They can't
control that. It's literally going to happen. It is in their nature.
Likewise, a man's nature is to want
multiple women. That's just what it is. There are very, very,
very few monogamous creatures in nature, and. And humans
ain't one of them. Okay? So when I think about living an outstanding life
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and the best life I can, it's like, one woman is not what's best for
me. I don't think one. Anything is what's best for anybody. One
job, one source of income, one car, one home. Like
you're trying to sit here and tell me that to have no options and only
have one option because one. One is not even really an option is what's best
for me or what's best for me. That's not what's best for men. So then
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when women get out here and they're like, I don't understand why men cheat. It's
so easy for me to be monogamous. Love. There. There's a.
There's a. There's a hormone called oxy. Oxytocin, Right?
It's the love hormone. It's the one that makes you feel good. Okay?
This is how. This is the hormone that helps us bond between
one another. And women are full of the. They have an
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excess of it. They have lots of it. And so they. They. This is why
you hear some people say women are love. Because they're full of that hormone. They're
full of all kind of hormones, but they're full of that one. Men,
we have a significantly. We have
significantly less of that hormone in our body. Do you know when
that hormone increases? No.
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When we're having sex and when we're bonding with
children, Right? So in order
for us to feel love how they feel it by. By
default, we need to be. Or rearing children,
right? So that's why it's harder for a man to be monogamous,
especially in a relationship where a woman is not having sex with him. Come on.
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That's not. That's not the same thing. That's like me saying, well, I don't believe
once a month. Why the. Do you believe once a month? That would be stupid,
right? That's not in my nature. You wouldn't buy a dog and get
disappointed when it barks. Barking is in your dog's nature. So this is what
I mean when I say self acceptance, bro. Like, I don't care what people think,
and I damn sure don't care what women think. Especially not single women. I got
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a podcast coming up soon. I'm gonna say this,
they're gonna hate it, but it's okay. So follow mathematics. Right here, right
here, Will. So 9%
of the people who live in poverty in America today, or the last time I
looked at this study, are married. So.
Meaning 91 of the people who are in poverty are single.
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Okay. All men of all
races out earn. All women of all races. Like,
not all. Like there. Are there some. What I'm saying is the
average black man earns more than the average black woman. The average white man earns
more than the average white woman, so forth and so on. All races. Now, are
there some women who out earn some men? Yes. But by and large,
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men are earning more than. Than women.
Have you ever rocked pot? Walked by a piece of gold on the sidewalk?
Piece of gold? No, never. Why?
Because someone would have picked it up way before you got there, right? Yeah. So
I tell that to single women, especially after their 30s. It's like, maybe if you
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were so valuable, someone would have. You wouldn't be out in these streets. So when
we look at the data, I say single women. Oh,
there's one more piece of thing I gotta add. I have a mentor
who's. He's had a lot of women, right? And I remember telling him, I was
like, hey, like. Or he said to me, he said, I don't
date broke women. And I said, why? Right? Because I had low expectations of
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women. Because I saw my mother make bad decisions. And he was like, because that's
proof she's been making bad decisions her entire life. And I was like,
damn, bro, that's so true. Because if you saw a broke guy, you'd be like,
yeah, he's been making bad decisions his whole life. So if you start to judge
them by the same standards you judge men, you start to realize a lot of
these, they're just poor quality. So adding all of that
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up together, what conclusion do I come to specifically about single
women? One, they're the poorest people in this country.
Two, they're not all that valuable because they'd be out of the streets. Three,
they make bad decisions their entire life, the broke ones, right?
Why in the world would I give a. With that demographic
of people? Think.
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I think there's some people who say that, like, in order to vote, you should
Be married. Like, like households get votes, not single people.
I'm not saying I agree with that, but I understand, because the people who are
in households have the resources, right? At that point, we're letting
families make decisions on where the country is going, not individuals. Right.
So I'm not worried. I think this, this message resonates with
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men. And if it's a man who it doesn't resonate with, then he's probably
a feminist and whatever, screw him. Or they're probably a woman and their
feelings are hurt, and that's okay. It takes a, it takes a masculine man
to stand up and say, nah, that's that. We're not doing that around here. You
can do whatever you want to do, but I'm not, you're not doing that around
me. Well, what makes King's Corner
different from other men's communities? Man,
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it's, it's a place where men can be
open, honest, vulnerable, transparent. And
honestly, bro, like, there, depending on what,
which of my offers we're working together on, it takes, it costs tens of thousands
of dollars to work with me, right? King's Corner is a free community,
right? Where I go live in the group once every other week. And
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it's like we're real men coming together to discuss real problems, real
issues, real strategies on how to improve their lives and,
and make themselves better. Right? No judgment. And,
and, and I honestly believe, man, men compete in different
ways, right? So, like, you can compete financially, you can
compete with, like, your physique, you can compete with, you know, how smart you
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are, how tall you are, how good. Look, you can compete in all these other
areas. And I don't care what anyone thinks. Well, actually, I, I, I'll,
I'll ask you this question. What would it look like? Like,
do you really think it's possible to live a great life where you win in
all these fucking areas, but when it comes to women, you're
clueless. Like, you, you're alone. You don't know what you're doing. You
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keep getting taken advantage of. Like, you're just not winning in that area. Right. Do
you think that would be a miserable life, long term? Yeah,
I agree. So no one is out here showing men, like,
bro, this is how you have an effective, productive,
high quality, effortless relationship with women. That
is a, that is an area of life that men have to conquer, which is
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totally different than being great in your career or having a great body or being
really smart, intellectual. Like, women are a, that is a
category in it of itself. And I've made every mistake that you
possibly can. I've had every kind of relationship you can have with a woman
except the sugar mama. Unless you know sugar mama's listening, I might be open,
you know what I'm saying? Hit your boy up. But I've had every relationship and
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I tell men like learn from my mistakes so you don't have to learn from
them yourself. But inevitably most men fall in love and then
they start making stupid ass decisions anyway. So they're going to learn the
lessons one way or another. And King's Corner is a place where we can
kind of come together, congregate and just improve as
men. Awesome.
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If you can give one piece of advice to your younger self, what would it
be?
Love yourself, do what you want. Put yourself first.
Love yourself. That's what I mean. I'm saying the same thing when I say love
yourself, put yourself first. Be incredibly selfish
and do what you want and just watch how far you go.
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Awesome. Awesome. Well, we've come to the part of the show where you
get the solo screen and you get to plug away. Let everybody know where they
can find, mind you, everything. Absolutely. I appreciate it, man.
So if you're interested in the tech stuff, you want to learn how
to get into the tech space, make a hundred thousand making
quarter million, working from home, working less than 30 hours a week, you can find
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me on Instagram.com backslash the
R as in Robert, P as in Paul, A as in Apple guy.
Okay? That's the RPA guy on Instagram.
And if you are interested in more of the masculinity content
then you can find me on Instagram backslash
(53:25):
or at Kings Corner podcast. And if
you can't remember any of those things I just named you, go to my website.
All my links to everything is there is makeme
king.net tap in with me, get some coaching,
get some game. Let me show you how to live an outstanding life, which is
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you, love you, honor you for who you are, not what you have. Okay?
And we're just gonna become the best version of yourself. And you would be,
you would be shocked at just how good life can be,
right? If you just get rid of all the shame, all the fear.
Stop focusing on what people think about. You only give a what you think about.
You wake up every morning and make you proud. That's what we show you how
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to do. Awesome, man, awesome. Thank you
for being such a great guest, man. Drop some great nuggets for men out there.
I greatly appreciate you spending. Spending this time
with me and. And dropping. Did you drop some
real gems, man? I greatly appreciate it. I tried, man. I'm trying. It was. It
was a pleasure. It was an honor to be here. Like I tell people, bro,
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I'm competing with Hugh Hefner. So you're gonna see me out here, and I'm gonna
give back to the world, and I'm. I'm. I'm gonna do it in such a
way, they're gonna be like, damn. When he. When he's gone, it's like, damn, bro.
Dude left the mark. My life is forever better because of him. And he had
a lot of too. You know what I'm saying? That's all I want to do.
All right, but don't leave just yet. Let me close out the show, bro. And
we're gonna shout off the air, but thank you, man, once again
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for being such a great guest. Thank you, sir.
All right, everybody, another great show is coming to an end. I
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It.
And welcome to another episode of Stuck in my Mind
podcast. I am your host, W I Z E
and today's guest is not your average coach. He's a lifestyle
architect for men who is tired of being told to play small.
He's a straight talking, no fluff lifestyle coach, helping men
embrace their full masculine power while building freedom based
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lives on their on their terms. Whether he's coaching men
to six figure tech jobs with 20 hour work weeks
or helping them unlock any strength, Augustic is on a
mission to help you become unapologetically
yourself. He's the founder of King's Corner community, host of
Kings Corner podcast, and a rising voice in the pro
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masculine movement. Reminding men that being a man is a
privilege, not a problem. His bold message,
create an outstanding lifestyle by choosing you first.
Welcome to the show Augustic Dunbar.
Yo man, I'm glad to be here. I appreciate that introduction.
Phenomenal. A, A plus. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
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It's something I've, I've started to do more, is really
introduce my guests. Yeah, thank you. I appreciate it, man.
So let's just jump right into this, man.
What was the moment that made you say, I'm done living by
society script? You know what? That is
a phenomenal question. So I'll tell you.
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I had a relationship with a sugar baby, right? She had
left. I was sad. I won't, I won't say heartbroken. That's a little bit too
dramatic. But I was very, very sad, right? And I
hired a coach. His name is Miles Cunningham. Shout out to him. And
he is a, he runs what he calls the masculine
Identity membership, right? And he told me
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a couple of things. Two things. I learned lots of things, but two
things stuck out. One, he said, bro, you can't lose
a woman. She only makes room for
someone who's more compatible. And I'm like, that makes a
lot of sense. Because if she was compatible, if we were compatible, she,
we'd still be together, right? And the second thing he
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told me now to provide context on this.
I am very, very big on human nature
and science and biology. Like, I can read about the brain and the
human animal,
right? All day. I love it, love it, love it. And the more I understand
about humans, the more I understand about men, the more I understand about myself,
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right? It's really that simple. And once I'm understanding of myself, I don't need to
judge myself. It's just like, oh, okay, that's my nature. That's why it's so damn
difficult for me to be with these kids all day, that's not in my nature,
okay? And I. I
love to study emotions, okay? So anger, joy,
sadness, disappointment, like, each of them are
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generated by thoughts that we have in our subconscious that we
have yet to bring to our conscious. And I found that once I bring the
thought from my subconscious to my conscious, the emotion
goes away, is what I've learned, right? And I can nerd
about. Nerd out about that a little bit more. But essentially, what he told me,
we were talking about embarrassment, right? We were talking about. Because one of his rules
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is like, we don't care what people think about us. We do what we want,
not because of outside forces, but because we want to do them.
And the argument I hit him with, and I just knew I was going to
be right. I was like, well, there's the. Like, what if. What about
embarrassment, right? When you look at embarrassment, what it. What
it makes us want to do is like, kind of just hide and
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not be seen and be left alone, right? Whenever you're embarrassed, naturally that is your
body's response. And I look at the history
of human civilization and, like, how we
came to have it, and essentially what it was, it basically
became a thing. Because imagine it's thousands of years
ago, and you and I live in a tribe, right? There's 150 people, and
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let's say you do something egregious, just terrible, right?
And the thought is, if I get
kicked out of this tribe, I've not got a forage for my own
food, my own water. I've got a. I've got to fend for myself, and I'm
probably going to die. Henceforth, we developed embarrassment
such that we would sit still, stop doing whatever the hell that we did we
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were doing so that we're not ousted out of the tribe. That is where
I believe embarrassment comes from, right? Like,
we don't. I don't think anyone can prove it or whatever that that's the
scientist best guess, based on what I've read, right?
And so when I presented that to him, I'm like, yeah, no, I think it's
probably wise that I care about what people think or I care about fitting into
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society. And because that's where, you know, it came from, right? It was. It was
meant to keep us safe, okay? Or keep us alive.
And he was like. And this. I'll never forget this conversation. He
said, but being ousted from the tribe and the society
only matters if you don't know how to get your own food. If you
don't know how to get your own water if you don't know how to fend
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for yourself and, and stay alive. He's like, if you had the
proper knowledge, wisdom and, and abilities,
then you would be you, you would say what you want, you would do what
you want and you, and you wouldn't have to worry about being out there,
not being able to survive because you have survival skills, right?
And so that's when I realized, like, okay, basically on what
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he just said, there is no benefit to me wanting
to fit into society. There's, there's just no benefit to
that. And I think about all the great men, right? From the Michael Jordan, so
the Tony Robbins, the Tom Brady's, the, you know,
any great man. And I don't mean like a good man, I just mean a
very successful, influential man. They tend to stand out,
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right? And that is part of masculinity, right? One of the defining
characteristics of testosterone. Or a man who has a higher testosterone, he's more
disagreeable, he's more willing to say no. He's more likely to push
back, right? So once I had that conversation that day, I
literally just stepped, stop and think. I don't care
what people think about me. And when I do catch myself caring about what people
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think about me, I ask myself, what would I do if I, in this moment,
right here, right now, if I truly didn't care? And I proceed.
Okay, how, how
did the idea of king energy first come to life for you?
That's a good question too, man. So I am, I'm used to being
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pampered. I'll just put it plainly.
I'm used to being bathed, rub, put lotion on me, talk to me
kindly, nicely, all these, that's how I'm used to being treated. And if a woman's
not willing to treat me that way, then she just doesn't like me enough. Okay?
And I remember the first time I was like getting,
you know, bathed by a woman. Now, not just bathe because that means like a
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tub. I don't like subs. I do table showers, right? So it's kind of like
imagine like a shower room, but there's a table and you're laying down and you're
kind of getting. Someone gets a sponge or a towel. Like I was getting bathed
for the first time and I was like, wow, this is amazing,
right? Like, there's is, there's no way you can't be relaxed,
right? Like, to me, that feels like love. And I remember the
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first time it happened, I was like, man, this is amazing. This must be what
kings felt like, you know, way back in the day.
And I started to think to myself, well, what else did kings have? They had
multiple women, right? They had power, they had
influence, they had riches. And, like,
to top it off, like, they didn't have running water, they didn't have ac, they
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didn't have electricity. They didn't have a lot of the. Look, we all. If you're
in America today, you have more luxuries than
any and every king has ever had. So I looked at all that and
I'm like, bro, I am a king. Like, I feel like a king in this
moment, and I'm going to live as such day to day, right?
So that's. That's where it came from. That's where it started. And then I call
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myself, you know, the king maker, because it's like, once you start winning at such
a high level, it's like, well, what's next? Right? It's
helping the next person win at that level. Right.
And I think iron sharpens iron. And so I'm here to
literally just live my life out loud, be the best version of me that I
possibly can, and inspire other men to do the same.
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Okay, how do you define
an outstanding lifestyle? And why do most men settle for less?
Good question, man. So when I say outstanding
lifestyle, what I mean is. Let
me ask you something. Well, have you ever seen
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someone do something and you're like, holy, I didn't even know that was possible.
Yes. And it maybe inspires you to want to do something similar?
That's what I mean. That's what I mean by an outstanding life. Like, it's so.
Like, I look at Hugh Hefner and I'm like, how did he pull off when
he pulled off all those women loving him at his. He. I think he
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had like, seven, eight girlfriends at once. Or
you look at somebody like a. I don't know. I. I
don't. Did someone hit someone? A trillionaire, whoever the first trillionaire is
or is going to be or whatever. Like, that's an outstanding life. Like,
to. To. To do something at such a large scale.
Right. That it makes someone else say,
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damn, dude, that's impressive. That makes me want to go after my dreams if he
can do it. And that's the other thing. I don't ever see anyone do
anything that I believe that I can't do. Yeah, that's. That's just
how I am. I truly do believe whatever I put my mind to, I
can accomplish as long as I really really, really, truly want it.
So that's what I mean when I say an outstanding life, one that inspires someone
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else to say, damn, dude, that's cool. I want to go for my dreams, too.
And why most men settle, why most people settle is fear.
It's fear because you typically have to give up
something to get what you want. Like, you have to. You can be good, but
in order to be great, you've got to give something up. It usually means you
got to spend more time on something and less time on something
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else. I see so many men who are in
these marriages where they say things like, happy wife, happy life. Those
are the most miserable men on planet Earth, in my opinion. I know, because I've
been there, right? And they want a great
marriage, right? But it's like they're afraid to leave and lose half
their stuff to this. To this person. So they kind of
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just stay out of fear. And the way I live my life is I don't
live with regrets. I'm. I will die with no regrets, okay? I'm going
to do any and everything that I set my mind to. And there. And that
comes with the. The unfortunate event
of sometimes of like, really setting your sights on something and
then getting it and then realize, man, I don't want this. But I wouldn't have
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known had I not gone for it, right? So
fear. Fear is the reason why most people end up settling.
You talk a lot about masculine identity. What's one lie men need to
unlearn immediately? Oh, man.
Oh, a lie that men need to unlearn. You know
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what? I'm be original with this, that
you get a woman by giving her what she wants. Is that
true? I. Tell me it. It really and truly does not matter
what a woman wants. And we could solve so many problems if we just took
that whole line of thinking out of our heads. Like,
it does not matter, bro. Because if a woman wants a relationship with you and
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the only way she can get is if you give it, right, then she must
do what it takes to earn that for you from you, right?
There's a lot of similarities or there's very few differences between
dating and, like, business, right? Or sex and business.
And I can say, I really, really, really want to work at Google, but
they're going to have rules and requirements for me, right? If I want to
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work there, so I can say, hey, I really, really want to work at Google
and I want to do nothing and get paid. Well, it's like, they're not going
to let that happen. They don't care what I want. They want me
to provide value to them in exchange for
income. So, so many men, they get lost
in this like, oh, happy wife, happy life. Or, you know, the wife wants this,
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she wants the car she wants. And it's like, that's how we end up with
burnout. You put what she wanted and what everybody else wanted ahead of you
for so long that you no longer know who you are. I talk to so
many men, and that's the problem. That's their issue. I know because, again,
that used to be me. But no one's going to appreciate you
more than you do. No one's going to cheer on you more than you do.
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No one's going to be in a. No
one's going to want what's best for you more than you, okay?
I tell men that women are selfish, okay? And I don't mean that in
a negative way. I think selfishness is good. So when I say selfish, I mean
they know what they want and they're willing to ask you for it over
and over and over again, okay? Until you give in or until you
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say no. And what
men do, I think is the exact opposite. They're so. They're so
selfish, selfless. So that might be another thing I think they need to
unlearn. Like, you ever been on the airplane and they say, hey,
you know, if the cabin pressure goes down
yourself, then others men do it backwards. We try to take care of
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everyone else and now we're burnt out, broke, busted and
disgusted and no one cares. Why would they care
about you more than you care about you? So I really do think
living the best lifestyle possible is based on
you being selfish, saying no more to saying no
to others more and saying yes to yourself more.
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My life has never been better.
You, you help men break into tech and scale to
250k a year. Why tech and why
now? So I've been in tech
now for over a decade, almost a decade and a half. And so
it's just my profession. This is just what I've been doing. It's the thing that
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I know easiest. It's the thing that I can turn my brain off and do.
It's almost like puzzle solving. Like it's. It comes very, very simple to me. I
find it fun. And so because
you know how they say that, which you have
a lot of access to, you tend to take for granted.
So I've just been in tech for so long. I've been living the tech lifestyle,
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making tech money, working remotely all these Things that I have
had it so long that I didn't realize that there's a whole world of people
out here who are really struggling. They really, really do want to get in. They
just have no idea what the hell they're doing, right? So I just realized I
have an opportunity now. The specific type of technology
that I teach and show people how to use is called RPA
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is short for Robotic Process Automation, which doesn't really tell you anything.
It's a marketing term, basically. Think about it like this.
When you're coding, what code is is just instructions that you give to a
computer to make it do a certain task, right? The
thing about coding, though, it's a relatively
difficult skill to learn by yourself with no support,
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no mentorship, no guidance, no nothing. Because there's a thing called syntax.
And syntax is basically like writing sentences, but within
code. And just like in a sentence, you need a period, you need
commas, you need punctuation. And if that's off, then your sentence is not
grammatically correct, right? Same thing with code, except it's.
You can have 200 lines of code and you could be missing one colon and
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the whole thing doesn't work. So it's a very tedious
thing to learn. Now, the thing about RPA is that
it's like coding, but it's significantly easier,
significantly simpler. The example that I give is that let's say you build
homes. Let's say I build homes. Let's say you build homes by
using hammer and nail and wood and you getting your knees and all that.
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Let's say that I 3D print homes. So I push a
button, I print a wall, I push that button two to three more times. I
print two to three more walls, I push another button, I print a roof, I
put it on top of the house, Boom, it's built, right?
So it's just going to be faster for me. It's going to. The learning curve
is going to be shorter for me, and I'm going to get good at this
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quicker than you're going to get good at building homes the way that you're doing,
right? The average developer, I'm sorry, RPA developer today
is earning a hundred and thirty thousand dollars and quite a
few of them, at least the ones that I know. The real players in the
game, they're working multiple jobs, right? So that's how they're making 250,
300, $400,000 a year. And
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now you say, why now? I just, I got to the point where my
taxes were insane. I was Working so many jobs, taxes were crazy. I was told
I needed to start a business. So that's why now. That's why I initially
started it. But the amount of relationships and the amount
of just help and service I've been
able to render to the marketplace has been really, really cool. So it's been more
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rewarding than I ever anticipated.
Okay, what's
one mindset shift that transformed your bank account and your
peaks? My bank account and my piece.
My bank account and my piece. I would say this idea of
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creating from a place of rest. We live in the western world
where we have what I call hustle culture, right? Which is
max out, do as much as you can, don't do enough, do
extra, do more. And at some point it's almost like, bro,
when is enough enough? Like, I have a mentor who I love, man. Dude's a
multi millionaire. And he was reviewing some kind of
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article that somebody wrote about Elon Musk. And he was like, look.
He was like, look, this guy works 16 hour days
every day for 10 to 12 years straight to make, you
know, a billion dollars or whatever. And he was like, bro, you can keep that.
He's like, you can keep that. I'd rather be at home, you know, every day
by 4:00. And I make several millions, right? And when I
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heard him talk like that, I'm like, bro, that's what I want. I don't. I'm
not out here competing. There's always going to be somebody with more money, more fame,
more success. I want to live a lifestyle on my terms,
right? Where I get to, I'm not working all damn day. I'm done by like
two or three o' clock. I've got time to spend with my family, with my
kids. I've got time to go see a comedy show. I've got time to go
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get a massage, right? So there's this idea of creating from a place of
rest and knowing that enough is enough, right? The goal that
you said is the goal that you set. Here's the amount of work that you
need to get done, or here's the. Here's the amount
of input that needs to be done and space it out over enough time
to where you build in time for rest. Because rest is important too,
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right? It goes work to
accomplish something. Rest and then celebrate.
Resting and celebrating is very important. And I think that in our
culture, we only focus on work. We don't focus on rest, nor do we focus
on celebration.
Was there ever a time you doubted your masculine energy
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was too Was there any ever a time you doubted masculine energy was
too much? Oh, all the time. All the time. I'm
very. I can be very direct. I can be very brash. I can
be very abrupt. And that's just the way I talk. That's the
way my dad talks. So, you know, he's my. He's my father, so I.
I get it from him. But I started to realize that my
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tone can rub people the wrong way inadvertently. And I've also
learned that I can say the exact same thing. Same exact words, same exact pace.
But if I change my tone and soften it, the. The message is received
a lot better. Right? So there was a point in time
in my life where in my young 20s, I was definitely an. I liked getting.
Getting under people's skin. I definitely liked. They call it jonesing. They're going
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back and forth. And until I got my feelings hurt, I said, you know what?
I'm not doing this no more. This does not benefit me. Only black people do
this. I don't think any other race does this as an adult.
So, yeah, that. That used to be a thing back in the day.
Okay,
hold on. How do you personally navigate relationships while staying
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rooted in your masculine frame? I actually find that
very easy to do. It's very simple. My rules are very, very, very simple.
One, you must have requirements for women. You must have requirements for
women. Most men don't value their time. Most people don't value their
time. And most men are sad. Most men are lonely. And what
they'll do is they'll get a woman, or they'll get a girlfriend or
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a sneaky link or whatever you want to call her, and they'll just spend time
with her inadvertently, like she doesn't have to qualify for his time. And then
when they are spending time together, they're not doing anything productive. Okay?
And I say that every. Any time
I'm dealing with any woman, she's doing something for me. She has a role
to play. I have a schedule. I have a set routine. And she's going to
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fit into my schedule, into my routine, or it's just not going to work.
Because if you start to. If you start to
do. Do things for women, now you're simping.
But when the woman does things for you, she's attracted,
right? So every relationship has the pursuer and the
pursued. Right? Every relationship has a power dynamic. There's
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never any two people in a relationship that like each other equally.
One person always likes the other person more, even if it's only a Little
bit. Okay. And from my experience and my research and all
these things, it just makes for a better relationship. When
the man is the one who is being pursued and the woman is the one
who's doing the pursuing, the person who is being pursued
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gets to be with the one who loves them.
The person who's doing the pursuing gets to be with the one they love,
the one who is getting pursued. They
don't have a high and low of the emotion. It's more of like
a consistent, like, you know, they're cool, I like them, you
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know, type of thing. But they get consistency. Okay.
The person who is pursuing gets the highs
and lows of love and anger and despair and all these other things that come
with relationship. And that's the thing about women. Women need
emotional volatility. Women are chaotic by their nature.
Okay? So it just fits that role, fits them better.
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Where men mess up, they swap it, and they are pursuing a woman,
they're chasing a woman. But, bro, if she's running, that means she doesn't want to
be caught, at least not by you. Right? Because that same woman you're chasing is
chasing someone else. So
I'm not gonna lie. I started rambling. I'm not sure how I remember the question,
but hopefully I answered it. Now you did.
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How has father fatherhood shaped your views on leadership
and legacy. Fatherhood? So I've been a father
since 19, so literally I graduated high school. A
year later I had a child. So I've been a father this entire time.
And so much so. I mean, I'm 30 something
now, so I'll. I'll be coming up shortly on having
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been a father longer than I had not been a father. And you said
on legacy and leadership. Yes, I, I, me personally.
So leadership, to me is a few things. It's, it's. It's service. It's
leading by example. It's being willing to have tough kind of
conversations, be honest with people. Right. Being able and being willing
to. To have
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confrontations when necessary. You said
leadership and legacy. I don't really think about legacy, to be totally
honest with you. Maybe I'm not old enough. Maybe I don't care enough right now.
But all at this very moment, man,
I just care that my legacy is, bro, this guy did what the he wanted
to do. He got up every day. He meant what he said, he said what
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he meant. And he lived the lifestyle that he said he was going to. And
when he was wrong, he said, hey, I was wrong. And when he was right,
he said, I Told you I was right. Right.
And so that's it, man. And I totally believe that no one makes
it out of their parents homes unscathed. Right. Both of my parents
were drug addicts growing up. They're both clean now. Very
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grateful for that. But at the same time, like you
ever heard that phrase, hard times make
strong men. Strong men make good times. Good times make
weak men. Yeah. Right. So I'm in a generation
now where all of my friends are far more successful than what their
parents were and our kids are far softer.
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Right. So, like, do I think that my children are going to make it out
of my home without something being scarred or me having said something that really
hurt their feelings? And they still feel that way in their late 20s. Ah, it's
probably gonna happen. I'm probably say all kind of. Right. I'm gonna do the best
that I can, though, just the same way that my parents did. Right? Yeah. And
that's. That's all I can do, is just do the best that I can do.
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Okay. What, what, what's your advice for men who feel like
they're late to the. Game in terms of what?
Everything. Care.
I would say there's never a. There's never. It's never too late to
reinvent yourself. It's never too late to reinvent yourself.
And here's the thing, bro, like I said, I'm in my early 30s. I can't
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wait to my 50s. Men don't reach their earning potential, their highest
earning potential, till their 50s. Right. That's also
when the most women want you. So, like, if you're under 50, it's 55, I
think. So if you're under 55, bro, you still have time. And,
and at the end of the day, bro, I heard Andrew Tate say
this, and I do believe it to be true. He says, whether you're homeless, under
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a bridge, and you're surrounded by good friends, or you're
in the air on a private jet flying across the Pacific and you're with good
friends. He's like, that's the best that life gets, period.
Like, after, like, regardless of the money and the fame and success, it
comes back down to relationships. And I only
associate and really call people friends who, who add
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value to me and who I really genuinely feel as though care for me. And
I have a very strong friend group. Right. And I make friends everywhere that I
go. So, yeah, man, it's never, it's never too late.
And just realize that not having what you want doesn't
mean that you're Late to the party or anything like that. We, bro, everybody doesn't
have what the they want. Like, we're on a constant pursuit of getting what we
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want. And then once you do get it, guess what? There's gonna be some more
that you want that you don't have. Right? So it's like, there's no need
to judge yourself compared to anyone else.
It's just get up and go, become the best version of you. Right? And
another thing I'll add to that is progress equals happiness. So if a man feels
like I'm not where I want to be and I'm behind and I'm late, it's
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like, well, what are you progressing on? I guarantee you, if you were progressing on
something, you'd feel good, right? If someone weighed 500 pounds and their goal was
to get to 150 the moment they saw the scale hit 498, they'd be
excited. Why? Because they're making progress. Do they have what they want yet?
No, but they're on their way. And if they're consistently making progress and they're
consistently happy.
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Can a man be masculine and still vulnerable? And how do you
personally balance that? Yes. I'm so glad you asked that. Yeah, man. I'm
very different in this regard. I. I cry, okay?
I've cried several times in my lifetime. I actually enjoy crying, okay? I don't
give a fuck what nobody thinks. It is a biological function meant to
help you when your emotions become too overwhelming. Okay? Crying and throwing
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up, both those two things I don't know about you, will. When I do those
two things where I feel way better than what I did before I got done
doing those things. So I don't cry often, but I
do believe that. I don't know if vulnerability is
the right thing to say, but I think that transparency and authenticity is a super
power. Right, people? We're all human, bro.
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And there are some people who are like, man, I'm fearless. I'm not scared of
nothing. It's like, bro, yes, the you are again. Fear is a biological function.
You're afraid of something. And I tend to get people to open up and trust
me rather quickly because I have nothing to hide. And I don't give a what
they think about me. I'm just open and honest. Like, hey, yeah, man, I did
this. I had, you know, a relationship with a girlfriend. I've been cheated on several
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times. I've cried, I boohooed, and I've taken all that. Now I've gotten better. So,
you know, when I. When. When I don't care what people think about
me, therefore I share everything. My shortcomings, my flaws, my
vulnerabilities, all that. It typically gets them to open up and say, damn, bro, this
is a real genuine dude. And then they feel comfortable sharing their
flaws and vulnerabilities and all that there too. So. And I think it's
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also really, really hard to have a, A quality relationship when you're not
being totally, truthfully, like, honest about how you feel and what,
what you're struggling with, right. I think that a lot of
men, maybe our parents generation, like, they didn't really
have therapy. They didn't have outlets. They didn't have, like,
the ability to work a corporate job and make six figures and then, you know,
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spend that extra time reinventing themselves or reading
books on therapy or emotions. Like, they,
they just didn't have that. And so I just know the best version of me
is able to accurately identify all of his emotions. He's able to communicate
them. He's able to be open and honest. And
I think that so many people, so many,
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so much conflict comes when there's miscommunications
and when there's a lack of vulnerability, right? Like, I have a
friend who like me and I have, like, this is one particular friend.
And he will literally say, he's like, hey, bro, that hurt my feelings,
right? Like, he'll come outside. Men don't say that, right? Men don't say
that. And so because me and him have that kind of conversation or that kind
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of relationship, we never really have conflict because it's like, ah, my bad, bro. I
didn't, I didn't mean it that way. This is what I meant. He's like, oh,
okay, I got you. Right? And when you learn how to have
effective relationships and communicate effectively, I would argue that it's
not possible without vulnerability.
What role does your faith or spirituality play in your
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mission? So I've.
I have a habit of going from one
extreme to another. Okay? So growing up, I was forced to go
to church by my mother and my aunt.
And my mother was the woman who would like, shout and
scream and pass out. And they put the little cloth over and I'm just
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like, this is so embarrassing. Please let me go home. Right? And so as I
got older, I really, when I say older, I
mean 18, 19, 20. I really like, shunned religion. Like, get that away from me.
That's. That's ridiculous. I can't see a guy in the sky. You think he's
the reason that the, the surgeon did. Well, what about all the, you know, years
of study that the surgeon put on himself and all that? And I was very
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much a hardcore like atheist at one point, right? And then
I realized, well, that's too much energy and effort. I don't care. Believe what you
believe. Just, just leave me alone. And as I'm starting to grow and
mature, I start to get mentorship
because self love and self investment. So there's no amount of money that I'm not
willing to spend on me, right? Even if I pay a mentor five grand
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a month, I'm paying him, but I'm investing in me, okay? Because I'm
extracting wisdom. And one of the things that I learned
is that there's some good stuff in the Bible, man, regardless of whether
I agree with all the principles or the teachings. And you then start to learn
a lot of the religions are based off all the same stuff. They have a
lot of the same principles and virtues and things like that.
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And one of the things I really and truly believe
is that if, if the Bible says that our job,
if, if the Bible says that we are made in God's image, right?
That means that we are all gods to some degree. Not the
God, not your God, not, you know, a
big guy, maybe a little God, a lesser God, but a God, right? If we're
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made in the image of a God. Because if I said I have a dog
or if I have something here in the image of a dog, you would say
that's a dog, right? So if we are all gods
and the Bible says that the job is for, for us is to become more
Christ like, meaning to become more like him. To me, that means
to improve my state of mind, my state of being, like to
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become the best version of me. And it also aligned with my idea
of selfishness, of doing what's best for me. So now when I
think about spirituality, I don't think of religion, right? If you look at
spiritual or spirits, spiritual it is thing. It basically
means things unseen, feelings, emotions,
songs, music, words like you can't see any of these things,
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but we know that they exist, right? So now
when I think spiritual, I think of it in more of a, in a tangible
way. It's just things unseen. And every man
is two men, right? You have your physical body, right? You want to strengthen
that. That's playing sports, lifting weights, drinking water, those kinds of things.
And then there's your spirit, the spiritual man, right? These are,
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or your spiritual muscles. These are things like courage, faith,
right? Fear is spiritual. You can't see fear, but you can. You can feel it,
right? So there's definitely a spiritual
world. Whether is there is or is not a
God, I don't know. Maybe I. I don't care. I just know that my job
is to become the best version of me, right? And that is in line with
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all of the. The. The religious
texts out there. And
yeah, bro, I mean, that's. That's really it. Spirit. Spiritual stuff is very big to
me. I still have much, much more to learn in that regard.
So. Speaking of spirit, bro, I'm a man of comfort. I love comfort. You see,
I'm in my Versace robe now. Like, I. If it's not comfortable, it's not for
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me. Some men are like, ah, comfort. Yes. You get too comfortable. I like comfort.
If you don't like comfort, go sleep under a bridge. What do you need? A
house where. If you don't like comfort, Bro, everybody likes comfort. Right? And that's a
spiritual thing, right? So one of my challenges is, like, as I become
more successful, I spend more money and things like this. Like, I need
to remind myself that you need discomfort too. Like,
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it's not comfortable when I'm in the gym. It's not comfortable to have
uncomfortable conversations. It's not comfortable to
spend $50,000 a month on marketing. Right? But I must
grow to be the kind of guy who can do all those things
and not get too comfortable with. With comfort, if that makes sense. Because too
much of anything can be a bad thing. I know you have to make yourself
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uncomfortable. That's. That's what drove me to start the
podcast and, and do. What I'm doing is. I mean, I stepped out of my
comfort zone, absolutely made myself uncomfortable, and started
doing stuff that I wasn't regularly doing.
And so that's what led me to build up the platform that I'm doing.
Yes, sir. Congrats to you for that, man. Thank you. It can be difficult. Oh,
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yeah, I can. It can. What's one societal trend that's killing
male confidence right now? Thinking that
masculinity is bad and femininity is good, when in
reality, we're just two halves of a whole. Like, we both
need each other. So there's the
red pill community and then there's feminism. Right?
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They are equal opposites. Like, feminism existed, and
men's response to that is like this red pill. And
feminists hate men, and red pill men hate women. Right? And it's just
like, no, bro. Like, both those extremes are stupid. We
need one another. If One of us stops existing or stops
having sex with the other, the whole race or the whole species goes extinct. Right?
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And so I think this comes from an inability to understand
one another, right? An inability to understand one another.
And so, yeah, man, this. This whole thing about
masculinity, I think we need to appreciate the differences, right?
So I remember I used to think, like, like, one of the things the red
pill guys say is all women are delusional. And they'll bring a bunch of women
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on a panel, and then they'll laugh at them and ask them a bunch of
questions, and they realize these. The women are dumb and they're. They're delusional, but it's
like, no, bro, like, delusion is their superpower. Like, they're go. They've
been delusional their entire life. They're going to continue to be delusional. That is
part of womanhood. Okay? Just like, I think guys
are dumb, right? Sometimes where, like. Well, like, if a guy
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makes a mistake or does something, or he might rub someone the wrong way or
just. Just do something stupid. I'm talking about young boys, really. I'm thinking, like,
13 to, like, 19. We do all kind of stupid, and it's typically because we
don't know any better. And that's just part of being young is.
Is being naive and not knowing any better, right? And so,
yeah, man, I think we don't need to demonize. I don't think femininity gets
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demonized. I think masculinity gets demonized. And you see men
dressing up in dresses and. Which is, bro, that's what you want to do. That's
what you want to do, but I'm not gonna applaud you for it. Like, you
don't get cookies. You don't get rewards. Like, but we have society
saying, hey, it is. It is better for you to be a nice man,
a weak man, an effeminate man, a man who would never harm
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anyone. And it's like, no, you need men to be dangerous
when it calls for danger, right? You want a man who.
You want to be a man who is dangerous, who is capable of being dangerous,
but who is wise enough to know when to. And when not to be.
That's the message that I think we need to be spreading.
And. And right now, it's like
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they're talking about masculine energy is toxic. No
such thing. There's no such thing as toxic masculinity. And it's crazy because
it. It's like you want.
Just because you want a certain lifestyle because you want a certain thing
that it's toxic. Especially. I was. I'm. I'm from
a different generation. I was born in night in the 70s, and.
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And I. I was brought up completely different.
And so I see how a lot of these relationships now, and
I'm like, this is crazy. Like, what's. What's the craziest thing
you think, like, what. What are you seeing happen today? That if you saw happen
in, like, the 80s, you'd be like. They'd be like, what the.
Oh, yeah.
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It's like, if you're a man's man, there's something wrong with
you. Like, if. If you're. If you're. If you're
the kind of man that wants. I'm not saying my
wife has to be weighing on me hand and feet and everything like that,
but there's. There's roles into this. There's certain
rules that we have, and. And they just don't want
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to. They just seem to, like, want to get rid of them.
Yeah, I agree. They. They. I think. Here's what I.
Here's what I. I have a friend who. Who said this. He said.
Hold on one second. My apologies. Hold on one second. Just
give me one second. Sorry, everybody. And in real life, I have
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my grandson here, and I have to pay attention to him. Right?
Quick, give me.
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Sorry about that, everybody. My apologies,
but. Yeah, where were we?
We were talking about masculinity
and it being toxic. Yes. Yeah, that's not. That's not a thing.
Oh. Oh. I was saying that masculinity
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has made the world so safe that we almost don't value it.
Not even almost, that it's not valued. I have a friend who says
that women really, every day wake up and
think, oh, I don't need a man, or we don't need men. And it's like,
who do you think builds these roads in these buildings and in
these machines and these. Like. It's
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like there are so many men who are invisible
to a woman. Like the guys who are working on
farms, who are building things, who are fixing things, who are maintaining
things, who are cleaning things, right? And it's like. Because
there are hundreds of thousands and millions of men doing that. And
now food shows up in the grocery store and nail polish shows
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up at the fucking nail salon, and food shows up at the restaurant.
It's like they real. They think they don't need men. No, you don't need
a man to be yours, to take care of you. But if those
men all stopped, your life would Cease as you know
it, right? So it's like the world is so safe that they don't,
they really start to think that they don't need men. But it's like
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the menace. The world is safe because of men, right? Men
don't come and attack our country because there are men at the borders
keeping them from, from doing so. They know they will be hurt by other men,
right? And I had, I heard a comedian, Ryan Davis, say this. I really did
not like this when I first heard it, but he's, he's true. He's right.
He said the most dangerous thing to a man, I'm sorry, to a woman,
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is a man, Right? Because the average woman cannot fend
for herself against a man, right? And so when you look at that problem,
I say, okay, if I have a daughter and I wanted her to be safe
and, and this, the most dangerous thing to her is a man, well, then how
does she defend herself? I don't think she tries to defend herself by herself. I
think she finds a good man that wants to love, honor and
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protect her. Right? So I think it's more fair to say that the most
dangerous thing to a woman can be a man if she chooses
wrong. But most men aren't violent. Most people don't even know how to
fight, right? So, yeah, I think
masculinity is not valued because we live in a world that is relatively
so safe. Like, we're not in barbarian times. You're not having a barter for things.
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It's not, you know, meet a woman, bonker over the head and drag her back
to your cave. None of that is happening. So much so that women can go
out, be drunk, be inebriated, ass out, titties
out, and get back home safely without anything ever happening to her,
right? That is, that in and of itself is a miracle.
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I kind of know what's going to be answered this, but how do you feel
with critics who say your message is too
aggressive? I don't care. They don't have to listen to me. They don't have to
follow me. It's like, bro, I'm speaking two men and four men in a time
where masculinity is not appreciated, bro, like I tell me, bro, my
pillars are self love, self respect, self acceptance, and gratitude, right?
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And when I talk about self acceptance, going back to what I said earlier
about, like, I learned more about human nature, then I learned more about
male nature, and I'm learning more about myself in the process, and I start to
realize, okay, there's nothing Wrong with me, bro. Like, this is just my
nature. For example, there was a
point in time in history where women would be stoned when they got their periods
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right, when they were bleeding, right? And it's like, how stupid is that? They can't
control that. It's literally going to happen. It is in their nature.
Likewise, a man's nature is to want
multiple women. That's just what it is. There are very, very,
very few monogamous creatures in nature, and. And humans
ain't one of them. Okay? So when I think about living an outstanding life
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and the best life I can, it's like, one woman is not what's best for
me. I don't think one. Anything is what's best for anybody. One
job, one source of income, one car, one home. Like
you're trying to sit here and tell me that to have no options and only
have one option because one. One is not even really an option is what's best
for me or what's best for me. That's not what's best for men. So then
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when women get out here and they're like, I don't understand why men cheat. It's
so easy for me to be monogamous. Love. There. There's a.
There's a. There's a hormone called oxy. Oxytocin, Right?
It's the love hormone. It's the one that makes you feel good. Okay?
This is how. This is the hormone that helps us bond between
one another. And women are full of the. They have an
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excess of it. They have lots of it. And so they. They. This is why
you hear some people say women are love. Because they're full of that hormone. They're
full of all kind of hormones, but they're full of that one. Men,
we have a significantly. We have
significantly less of that hormone in our body. Do you know when
that hormone increases? No.
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When we're having sex and when we're bonding with
children, Right? So in order
for us to feel love how they feel it by. By
default, we need to be. Or rearing children,
right? So that's why it's harder for a man to be monogamous,
especially in a relationship where a woman is not having sex with him. Come on.
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That's not. That's not the same thing. That's like me saying, well, I don't believe
once a month. Why the. Do you believe once a month? That would be stupid,
right? That's not in my nature. You wouldn't buy a dog and get
disappointed when it barks. Barking is in your dog's nature. So this is what
I mean when I say self acceptance, bro. Like, I don't care what people think,
and I damn sure don't care what women think. Especially not single women. I got
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a podcast coming up soon. I'm gonna say this,
they're gonna hate it, but it's okay. So follow mathematics. Right here, right
here, Will. So 9%
of the people who live in poverty in America today, or the last time I
looked at this study, are married. So.
Meaning 91 of the people who are in poverty are single.
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Okay. All men of all
races out earn. All women of all races. Like,
not all. Like there. Are there some. What I'm saying is the
average black man earns more than the average black woman. The average white man earns
more than the average white woman, so forth and so on. All races. Now, are
there some women who out earn some men? Yes. But by and large,
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men are earning more than. Than women.
Have you ever rocked pot? Walked by a piece of gold on the sidewalk?
Piece of gold? No, never. Why?
Because someone would have picked it up way before you got there, right? Yeah. So
I tell that to single women, especially after their 30s. It's like, maybe if you
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were so valuable, someone would have. You wouldn't be out in these streets. So when
we look at the data, I say single women. Oh,
there's one more piece of thing I gotta add. I have a mentor
who's. He's had a lot of women, right? And I remember telling him, I was
like, hey, like. Or he said to me, he said, I don't
date broke women. And I said, why? Right? Because I had low expectations of
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women. Because I saw my mother make bad decisions. And he was like, because that's
proof she's been making bad decisions her entire life. And I was like,
damn, bro, that's so true. Because if you saw a broke guy, you'd be like,
yeah, he's been making bad decisions his whole life. So if you start to judge
them by the same standards you judge men, you start to realize a lot of
these, they're just poor quality. So adding all of that
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up together, what conclusion do I come to specifically about single
women? One, they're the poorest people in this country.
Two, they're not all that valuable because they'd be out of the streets. Three,
they make bad decisions their entire life, the broke ones, right?
Why in the world would I give a. With that demographic
of people? Think.
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I think there's some people who say that, like, in order to vote, you should
Be married. Like, like households get votes, not single people.
I'm not saying I agree with that, but I understand, because the people who are
in households have the resources, right? At that point, we're letting
families make decisions on where the country is going, not individuals. Right.
So I'm not worried. I think this, this message resonates with
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men. And if it's a man who it doesn't resonate with, then he's probably
a feminist and whatever, screw him. Or they're probably a woman and their
feelings are hurt, and that's okay. It takes a, it takes a masculine man
to stand up and say, nah, that's that. We're not doing that around here. You
can do whatever you want to do, but I'm not, you're not doing that around
me. Well, what makes King's Corner
different from other men's communities? Man,
(50:06):
it's, it's a place where men can be
open, honest, vulnerable, transparent. And
honestly, bro, like, there, depending on what,
which of my offers we're working together on, it takes, it costs tens of thousands
of dollars to work with me, right? King's Corner is a free community,
right? Where I go live in the group once every other week. And
(50:28):
it's like we're real men coming together to discuss real problems, real
issues, real strategies on how to improve their lives and,
and make themselves better. Right? No judgment. And,
and, and I honestly believe, man, men compete in different
ways, right? So, like, you can compete financially, you can
compete with, like, your physique, you can compete with, you know, how smart you
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are, how tall you are, how good. Look, you can compete in all these other
areas. And I don't care what anyone thinks. Well, actually, I, I, I'll,
I'll ask you this question. What would it look like? Like,
do you really think it's possible to live a great life where you win in
all these fucking areas, but when it comes to women, you're
clueless. Like, you, you're alone. You don't know what you're doing. You
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keep getting taken advantage of. Like, you're just not winning in that area. Right. Do
you think that would be a miserable life, long term? Yeah,
I agree. So no one is out here showing men, like,
bro, this is how you have an effective, productive,
high quality, effortless relationship with women. That
is a, that is an area of life that men have to conquer, which is
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totally different than being great in your career or having a great body or being
really smart, intellectual. Like, women are a, that is a
category in it of itself. And I've made every mistake that you
possibly can. I've had every kind of relationship you can have with a woman
except the sugar mama. Unless you know sugar mama's listening, I might be open,
you know what I'm saying? Hit your boy up. But I've had every relationship and
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I tell men like learn from my mistakes so you don't have to learn from
them yourself. But inevitably most men fall in love and then
they start making stupid ass decisions anyway. So they're going to learn the
lessons one way or another. And King's Corner is a place where we can
kind of come together, congregate and just improve as
men. Awesome.
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If you can give one piece of advice to your younger self, what would it
be?
Love yourself, do what you want. Put yourself first.
Love yourself. That's what I mean. I'm saying the same thing when I say love
yourself, put yourself first. Be incredibly selfish
and do what you want and just watch how far you go.
(52:43):
Awesome. Awesome. Well, we've come to the part of the show where you
get the solo screen and you get to plug away. Let everybody know where they
can find, mind you, everything. Absolutely. I appreciate it, man.
So if you're interested in the tech stuff, you want to learn how
to get into the tech space, make a hundred thousand making
quarter million, working from home, working less than 30 hours a week, you can find
(53:05):
me on Instagram.com backslash the
R as in Robert, P as in Paul, A as in Apple guy.
Okay? That's the RPA guy on Instagram.
And if you are interested in more of the masculinity content
then you can find me on Instagram backslash
(53:25):
or at Kings Corner podcast. And if
you can't remember any of those things I just named you, go to my website.
All my links to everything is there is makeme
king.net tap in with me, get some coaching,
get some game. Let me show you how to live an outstanding life, which is
a life on your terms where you're dealing with women who like
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you, love you, honor you for who you are, not what you have. Okay?
And we're just gonna become the best version of yourself. And you would be,
you would be shocked at just how good life can be,
right? If you just get rid of all the shame, all the fear.
Stop focusing on what people think about. You only give a what you think about.
You wake up every morning and make you proud. That's what we show you how
(54:09):
to do. Awesome, man, awesome. Thank you
for being such a great guest, man. Drop some great nuggets for men out there.
I greatly appreciate you spending. Spending this time
with me and. And dropping. Did you drop some
real gems, man? I greatly appreciate it. I tried, man. I'm trying. It was. It
was a pleasure. It was an honor to be here. Like I tell people, bro,
(54:31):
I'm competing with Hugh Hefner. So you're gonna see me out here, and I'm gonna
give back to the world, and I'm. I'm. I'm gonna do it in such a
way, they're gonna be like, damn. When he. When he's gone, it's like, damn, bro.
Dude left the mark. My life is forever better because of him. And he had
a lot of too. You know what I'm saying? That's all I want to do.
All right, but don't leave just yet. Let me close out the show, bro. And
we're gonna shout off the air, but thank you, man, once again
(54:54):
for being such a great guest. Thank you, sir.
All right, everybody, another great show is coming to an end. I
greatly appreciate everybody for their patience earlier in. In the interview.
I greatly. I am so humbled. For everybody out there who's
tuning in, watching the live, catching the replay. If you
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haven't subscribed, please subscribe to the channel. Hit the
notification bells. As always, big shout out to
my Real Wives fan, Poppy J, Brandy J. Love you guys. Shout out
to the boss lady. Love you. And appreciate everything you do. And as always,
a big, big shout out to all the essential workers out there. God bless y'
all. Be safe. You know your boy wise does it. Peace out.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
Ridiculous History
History is beautiful, brutal and, often, ridiculous. Join Ben Bowlin and Noel Brown as they dive into some of the weirdest stories from across the span of human civilization in Ridiculous History, a podcast by iHeartRadio.