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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Greg Collins.
Substitute Teachers Lounge.
It is March 4th 2025 today, ormaybe I should say years ago,
maybe the first year of thispodcast, I told you how much I
liked short-term substituteteaching because I got to meet a
lot more students.
Later, when I got a long-termjob, I said long-term is the way
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to go.
In fact, that was in the sixthgrade.
Those kids are seniorsgraduating this year and I still
feel close to them.
One of them actually invited meto their graduation.
Then I had a long-term job.
That previous long-term job wasfrom just before spring break
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until the end of the year.
Then I had, because of COVID,right after COVID, I had a
long-term job that I had thesame students for an entire
school year.
Then, shortly thereafter, Irecorded an episode, probably
two years ago, that said youknow, I'm back to liking
short-term better because I gotto meet new students.
Well, it's changed again.
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No, not back to long-term, I'llcall this medium-term
substitute teaching.
I'll tell you what it means.
I'll tell you how I justexperienced it and loved it, and
we'll see if it might now beyour favorite too.
Substitute Teacher's Loud.
All right, guys, I actuallytold you in the last episode
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that I was coming up on afour-day assignment.
Obviously, that assignment isover now and I really enjoy it.
It's third grade.
I think some of the thirdgraders even listening to the
podcast.
I will tell you something I did.
I had them write last day.
I had them write somethingabout me and I'm going to read a
couple of those at the end ofthe episode because I thought
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they were really good, reallycreative, and I'll tell you the
parameters that I gave them towrite that it wasn't just about
me as a person.
I let them go fictional,science fiction, superhero,
villain.
However, they wanted to writesomething about me, and one of
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them it kind of humbled me alittle bit when they wrote it,
but in a nice way.
So all right.
So I'm going to call thatmedium term.
There's things that let's firstof all, let's just do long-term.
You know that and I assume allof you know this.
It's happened to me once thatwhen you get above a certain
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number of weeks in yourassignment, there are several
things that kick in In our area.
Let's just talk about the payhere.
I don't mind telling you at mylevel.
I am a non-credentialed teacherfrom the past.
I was a financial guy, but I dohave a master's degree.
So in our area I'm getting paid$135 a day.
So in our area I'm getting paid$135 a day.
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If I went on an assignment, Iwant to say 10 weeks, but now
that I say that that sounds long.
But if you go on a long-termassignment your pay goes to $185
.
Now, obviously my assignmentthat went for the whole year.
Well, guess what else kicks in?
Benefits.
You have all that insurance.
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Now it probably wouldn't workfor me now because I'm 67 and
Medicare is paying for mine.
So just from a legal standpointI'm sure the school would no
longer provide any insurance ofany kind.
In fact, it's kind of comical tome, regardless of whether I'm
short term, long term orwhatever, they require me to
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take some of my pay out forretirement.
You know I'm already retired.
I don't know how long I'm goingto do this, but sure enough I'm
in my seventh year.
And if I stay through 10 years,if I'd substitute, teach for 10
years, which I guess I would be70, then, holy cow, 70.
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Well, I get a teacher'sretirement.
That wouldn't be as much as mywife's, obviously, because she
was a credentialed teacher foralmost 30 years, but that's kind
of.
I would almost rather just havethe money for now, but what the
heck?
We'll see how that goes here inabout three years.
All right, this medium term is afour day assignment If you're
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going to do some long-term.
You got some inconvenience.
You got some conveniences andsome inconveniences.
To me, the biggest downfall isthat you are with the same kids
now for a long, long time, andjust as it is with teachers,
students are excited when theymeet their new teachers at the
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beginning of every year.
As the year progresses, theyget used to them.
They don't really getdisrespectful because they get
used to them, but they get usedto them and it's just not the
same.
Maybe the teacher has to nowlean on them a little bit more.
By the way, subbing a majorityof elementary school now my last
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eight days of assignments havebeen elementary school and it's
so refreshing to watch themstand up, do the Pledge of
Allegiance enthusiastically, dotheir classroom motto right
after that, almost, I mean loud.
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They like to do it loud becauseit's still fun for them.
Bless our hearts as we getolder and we get stuck in our
ways.
You know we find reasons.
Well, maybe I don't want to sayit this time, maybe I even want
to sit down.
I've told students before inhigh school that I can't tell
them to stand up during thePledge of Allegiance, but I make
them be quiet.
Some of them were talkingthrough it and I said I can't
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make you stand up, but you'renot going to distract from my
enjoyment of the Pledge ofAllegiance.
I didn't go all political onthem, but that's what I told
them.
It was kind of refreshing.
That is a side note.
So it was with these kids fourdays.
I'll just give you theconclusion first.
I now think that this mediumrange maybe just for a week is
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the perfect length of time forme, because it gave me time to
get to know them.
But yet I still get a new batchof students every week or so.
So I really like it.
And the thing I like most isthat the teacher it's funny In
elementary school those kids areso programmed to do the same
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thing at the same time every day.
This is our extra math time,this is our reading time, this
is our writing time.
When I got to day three,there's a lot of times when we
would come in from recess orlunch or whatever.
We'd been out of the room and Iwould say, all right, what's
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everybody working on now?
And they would all say writing.
They would all say thattogether or whatever the project
was at the time.
So these kids were soprogrammed I really wouldn't
have had to do anything.
Obviously, the specificassignment changes every day.
You're writing about somethingdifferent or you're reading
about something different, andthey had stations where some of
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them were doing iReady and someof them were doing independent
reading and some of them weredoing a specific reading that
had a paper to go with it thatthey were supposed to answer
questions about, and I got tohelp them a little bit.
I'm not as savvy about stufflike that as I would be about
math.
I could help them.
I'm pretty decent withpunctuations.
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There was one assignment wherethey had to put quotes around
when people were talking, allthat kind of stuff.
But the four-day thing, everyday, he gave me the freedom of
doing things for the first 15minutes, I should say for the
doing things.
That will help me and thestudents get better acquainted.
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So the first day I asked themwhat their favorite food was and
then I told them mine.
I asked them what theirfavorite TV show was.
I asked them what theirfavorite thing to do outside,
stuff like that.
And then by day four I wasrunning out of things.
So I said you know they'regoing to be writing at 8.15.
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Anyway, I said, all right, kids, here's what I want you to do
today.
Take out a piece of paper.
You're going to write a coupleparagraphs about me.
Now, it doesn't have to betruthful, it can be fiction.
They knew what fiction was.
It can be.
You can make me a superhero,you can make me a villain, or
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you can make me something else.
And I'm looking forward toreading this to you, because I
tell them from the beginning.
Now, you all are going to thinkthis is kind of harsh, and I do
this more in high school than Ido in third grade, but it was
really a good class.
So I told them now, guys, I'mvery sarcastic.
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Do you all know what that means?
And every hand went up.
And then I had some of themdescribe what it means and then
I said, all right, I'll give youan example of sarcasm here in
just a moment.
Then I went on to tell them soI have found out that they are
delivering some wood out in thecourtyard, out here in a couple
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hours and we get to build alife-size dollhouse together.
Some of them knew right away Iwas being sarcastic and some of
you listening are hating meright now for doing that to them
.
But then I told them that's anexample of sarcasm because
that's really not going tohappen.
And some of them were fussingabout it but they laughed really
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not going to happen.
And so they were fussing aboutit but they laughed.
And then it was funny.
I did that on Monday and as thedays progressed they knew when
I was being sarcastic and Ialways made sure if I was being
truthful about something.
I said all right, guys, this isnot sarcasm.
I wouldn't do them that.
I wouldn't say this is notsarcasm when it was, but that's
what led to what they werewriting the last day.
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But I really think I like thesemedium-term substitute teaching
best Now.
I like having that four-dayassignment.
It was someone I had knew forseveral years because he used to
work with my wife when she wasstill teaching before she
retired.
He was very highly organized.
It was kind of helpful to knowthat the routine was the same
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every day and they knew where toturn papers in and they knew,
you know, they had the relatedarts stuff in the same hour
every day.
But of course some days it waslibrary, some days it was the
gymnasium or I guess they stillcall it PE, some days it was
music, some days it was art.
So they got to do all that andI really enjoyed that class guys
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and if I do have students outthere listening to this, you all
were a great class.
They wanted me to say.
I had subbed the class acrossthe hallway, which is another
third grade.
I had the students they weren'tchanging classes, by the way,
so I had the same students allday long.
And if that last sentencesounded funny, it's because I
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guess I'm talking too fast and Ijust bit my tongue, so I hope I
can get through the rest ofthis.
So I loved the four-day stuff.
So If you're trying to thinkabout what's going to work best
for your wheelhouse, I think youcould consider longer
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assignments, like I'll callmedium term one or two weeks, I
hope this.
Yesterday I'm recording this onthe day of You're hearing it
the same day I'm recording it.
Yesterday I subbed for a fourthgrade class at a different
school and it was great too, butthere was just something about
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being with those same kids thefour days.
I don't walk up to kids and hugthem, of course, but you know
some of those kids wanted to hugme when they left the last day
and you know that was special tome.
There might have been two orthree kids that I had to
discipline, just verballydiscipline, more so than others.
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Even those kids were coming upto me on the last day and say oh
, mr Collins, can you come backand substitute teach?
And I felt like saying you wantme to come back as much as I
have Fussed at you this week fordoing various different things.
And they really did.
So we got along great and I amhere to tell you that my
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favorite is now this medium termsubstitute teaching.
Now I'm going to read these twostories.
I'll read some more.
I know some of them arelistening, so I'll read some
more.
This first one was very clever.
I think the student was tryingto teach me a lesson about being
sarcastic, so they titled it MrSarcastic.
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And here it goes.
Mr Sarcastic loves to besarcastic, so one day he was so
sarcastic nobody believed himanymore.
One day, the window was openand a fox came in and Mr
Sarcastic yelled.
There's a fox in my classroom,but nobody believed him.
Now I like that a lot.
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Maybe that's trying to teach mea lesson, like the little boy
who cried wolf.
Now, this last one's the lastone I'll do.
It's a little bit longer and ofcourse, it was written by a
third grader, so I'll try toread it so that it flows fairly
quickly.
This kid worked on itthroughout the day and it ended
up being three pages written inbig letters, so that's not as
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long as it sounds, but here'sthe way it goes.
All right, he titles thisCollins Rescue and it starts out
get out of here.
And then he says oh, he wasjust dreaming.
I get out of bed and go outsidefor the last day of teaching
class, best class in the world.
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Anyway, it's the last day MrCollins being here.
Everyone was yelling Just superduper.
Cool looking ninja broke throughthe glass.
He stole Mr Collins and lockedhim in the prison because it was
made of plastic steel.
How will all of this work out,and will he call me buddy?
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They started playing Minecraftand they got into the diamond
phase, but I told them get outof here and they broke and
didn't go through.
Now what are we going to do?
Meanwhile, it still can't breakthrough the plastic by jail.
I hit the wall.
He's escaping him too late.
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Now he gets away.
Anyway, back in the classroomhere these plastic breaks, or
maybe the ninja are made ofplastic.
Yeah, then the ninja broke, butthey have a plastic bleaker
made of plastic.
Yeah, then the Ninja broke, butthey have a plastic bleaker.
So no, we're made of plastic.
And the bleak, no one helped.
And then they ran away and MrCollins came back.
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Well, a little run on there,but that was pretty creative.
We got Ninjas in there, we gotprisons, we got breaking through
plastic.
So bless your all's hearts.
If you're listening to this, Ireally enjoyed everything you
wrote.
I enjoyed those four days withyou.
I saw some of them on TV hererecently because they were at a
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ball game that was beingtelevised, so it's always cool
to see them again.
I hope I get to go back to thisschool a lot.
It's the closest one to where Ilive and I like substitute
teaching there, so I know theshort-term teaching has its
highlights.
The long-term teaching has itshighlights.
I believe I'm a medium-term guynow and I bet if you try it,
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you will be too.