January 2, 2023 • 52 mins
Dr. Stacy Baker is a Traditional Naturopath who specializes in Functional Medicine. After suffering from chronic illness for most of her life, she finally found relief in using a holistic approach to regain her health and correct her imbalances. Discovering Functional Medicine has been life-changing and she has set forth to help as many people as possible regain their health and quality of life. She has been in the health and wellness sphere for close to 15 years, she has a Doctorate in Traditional Naturopathy, a Level 2 Integrative Health certification along with a number of other health certifications.
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Dr. Stacy Baker (00:00):
That goal weight that a lot of women
(00:02):
struggle with.
You get to the goal weight andthen you're like, well, I mean,
I could do another 10, 20 poundsless.
You know what I mean?
It never stops.
And so much of that is becauseyou're not fixing what's in
here.
You have to really learn to loveyourself and find your value and
your purpose, or you will alwayshave something else physically
that you feel like needs to befixed for you to be to that
(00:23):
perfect place.
Michael Bauman (01:05):
Hello, everybody! Happy New Year!
Hopefully 2023 is going to bebetter than 2022.
But all we can do is try tocontrol the things that we can
amidst all the craziness that isthe world right now.
So one of those things that alot of people focus on in
January is health and fitness.
(01:25):
So this is why that's the topicfor this month.
I have experts on that providereally practical tips, top
advice on how you cansustainably improve this area of
your life.
And the emphasis is onsustainable because as longtime
listeners know of the podcast.
I'm all about consistentsustainable action 80% of new
(01:50):
year's resolutions actually failby February.
I think if I remember correctly,it's February 8th, where most
gym memberships get canceled.
Um, if you even go to the gymanymore.
So we need to focus on how wecan sustainably make these
improvements in a way thatchanges our life, um, but
changes in our life in a waythat we can actually continue to
(02:12):
do it over the long term.
So this is why I have experts onfrom everybody, from somebody
who has a PhD in naturopathic.
Just, I mean, it's a masterclasson health and nutrition.
Um, how you can balance yourhormones, it's amazing.
And then another expert we haveon is a sleep coach who gives
(02:32):
you really practical things youcan do straightaway to optimize
your sleep, which optimize everyother area of your life: focus,
cognition, relationships,emotions.
I mean, everything you can thinkof.
So very practical on that areaas well.
Then another guests we have onis actually a coach themselves
who transformed their life, wentfrom couch potato to an
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endurance runner.
it does a bunch of enduranceevents now and lost a bunch of
weight and has sustainably keptit off.
And they'll tell you how theydid that.
A little quick tip, a quicksneak peek on that.
It's all mindset.
So it's all how we think and howwe structure that in our brain.
And then we'll have a nationallyrenowned fitness expert, who
(03:15):
will give you very practicaladvice on how to structure your
exercise routine and maximizethat with the shortest period of
time possible.
So excited for this! Welcomeback! We're going to hit the
ground running Season 7 which iscrazy, but excited to be here.
Excited you guys are here andI'll provide a ton of value and
(03:37):
insight for you guys.
So here we go.
Let's jump into it.
I have Dr.
Stacy Baker on.
She's a traditional naturopathwho specializes in functional
medicine.
Herself suffering from a chronicillness for most of her life,
she actually found relief in aholistic approach that allowed
her to regain her health,correct her imbalances.
She discovered functionalmedicine.
Basically changed her life.
(03:58):
And she set forth to help asmany people as possible, which
is fantastic.
So been in health and wellnessfor close to 15 years.
Doctorate, traditionalnaturopath, naturopathy, I
always can't say that word.
Level two, integrative healthcertification.
Uh, here we go.
And then a bunch of otherfunctional medicine
certifications.
So I'm really excited for thisconversation.
(04:19):
we'll just cut to the chase.
Welcome to the show.
Let's just get to it.
Dr. Stacy Baker (04:22):
Yeah.
Michael Bauman (04:24):
Exactly.
You're great.
Okay.
Everybody knows.
All right.
So let's, let's talk about, Imean, your background, your
family of M MDs.
Um, you were the, as you callit, the sickest in the family of
eight.
So let's talk about kind of thatbackground and how that shaped,
you know, your formative years.
Dr. Stacy Baker (04:43):
The short express version, um, so my
parents are MDs, my olderbrother's an md.
Um, I had struggled for a longtime from, from early, early on
with things like anxiety, uh,gut issues, immune system
issues, dental issues, whichwould, you know, it all, all
just kind of snowballed andpiled on.
And a lot of it was, um,triggered by my dairy
(05:06):
sensitivity, which led me torounds and rounds of antibiotics
cuz I had chronic ear infectionsas a child.
Mm-hmm.
Um, so obviously my gut was, youknow, the.
Compromise than anyone else inmy family, which led to think
about oral antibiotics is gonnalead to more oral dysbiosis.
So dental issues, um, gut issuesare gonna lead to anxiety, and
so we just keep snowballing andsnowballing and snowballing.
(05:28):
And so, um, it just kind of, youknow, When I was getting into
my, you know, older years as faras like high school and things
like that, when I found out my,you know, MD parents didn't know
what was going on, you know,like of course they would send
me to the best doctors, butnothing was ever synchronizing
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with like my symptoms.
I wasn't at a disease level yet.
So it was kind of like, Maybethey're in your head.
Just take this anxietymedication and you know, and see
how it goes.
So it just, it wasn't until Ikind of thought outside the box,
outside this conventional boxand I was the worst patient ever
too in a conventional setting.
Cuz I'm like, tell me what'swrong with me.
(06:10):
I'm not taking any medicine youknow?
Mm-hmm.
And they don't really know whatto do with that.
So, um, so anyways, I'm a personwho is, when I wanna find
something.
I will do everything I can andlearn every single thing I can
so I can actually get to the,to, you know, the root of what
was going.
And a lot of that just led me tomy issues and trying to figure
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out why I got that way, how tofix it, and now how can I help
everybody else that's strugglingwith the same things.
Michael Bauman (06:39):
how that kind of came to a head early to mid, mid
twenties for you and what thestory was around that?
Dr. Stacy Baker (06:45):
Yeah, sure.
So, um, so like you, I was apersonal trainer right around
college years and even a littlebit after.
It was something I could dopart-time when I was home with
my children.
Um, and I really was.
Not only dealing with my ownissues with body image and
breast implants, which I'm surewe'll talk about the breast
(07:07):
implant, uh, aspect of healing.
But, uh, I was noticing I wasattracting clients who also had
very similar health issues.
So a lot of the autoimmune typeissues, the chronic fatigue,
inability to lose weight.
Um, and so not only was.
Inspired by them to kind oflearn more knowledge and it's so
(07:27):
much more than calories andcalories out when you have
things like mitochondrialdysfunction and gut issues and
high cortisol levels and thingslike that.
So it was really cool.
It was like everything was kindof falling into place to kind
of, um, inspire me to, to notonly learn for myself like how
to get people through this, butyou know how to help everybody
else.
That was like, kind of beingbrought to me in that situation.
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It's kind of full circle.
Mm.
Michael Bauman (07:52):
Yeah.
And so what did that look likefor you?
So you get diagnosed with like,uh, hyperthyroidism and that's
like six months or so after the,the breast implants.
And you didn't put it togetherat that period of time, but, and
then, you know, you had babiesand stuff like that.
Yeah.
So what, what kind of came, cameto a head for you?
Dr. Stacy Baker (08:08):
Being in the fitness industry, I had
definitely overtrained andoverstressed my body.
I already had all this, like,you know, I told you the baggage
from all my other health issuesfrom being young, uh, cue the
breast implants, thyroid issues,like you said, less than six
months after I had the implantsput in.
And then every year or so it wasanother.
Um, diagnosis, whether it wasvertigo or pots or you know, all
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of these other things that kindof, every single year it was a
new diagnosis and I was justlike, finally, I kind of got to
the point where I was, I waskind of looking at the breast
implant community.
It wasn't as big as it is now atthat time, you know, cuz you're
thinking this is.
uh, you know, seven years ago, Idon't know.
I'm not, I don't wanna agemyself too much, but it was a
(08:54):
while ago, and so I would kindalike peak at the symptoms of
breast and plain illness, and Iwas like, oh.
you know, I don't have all of'em, so maybe it's not it.
So I would try to heal and doother things, but I, it always
kind of led me back, likethere's, there's a bigger thing
that needs to be addressed.
And so one day it just hit me,like I, I've, I don't think I
can really fully heal until Iremove this constant stressor in
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this constant thing that issuppressing my immune system.
Um, so I, I scheduled to get'emout like within a couple months
of that like aha moment and, um,and it really had to be in the
right time because I had to makesure that, you know, it really
was part of my problem.
I just, I always have to learnthe hard way, and, but, but I
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will say in implant um, I wasn'tone of those magical, like, oh,
I feel better right away people.
I still had a lot of work to do.
I had a lot of gut balancing.
I had heavy metals.
I had mold.
I had a lot of other things thathad to be addressed.
But it was one thing that if Iwouldn't have addressed it, it
would've still been that, like Isaid, that suppression of the
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immune system, that would've notgone away.
Michael Bauman (10:02):
So I'm curious, I want to, you know, before we
get into all the, you know,nutrition and, and stuff like
that, I'm curious on like, theemotional side for, for you one,
I'm curious, uh, how did youfeel differently when you got
the breast implants in the firstplace?
Um, and then also like how wereyour emotions and stuff around
getting them removed?
(10:23):
I'm curious about that.
Dr. Stacy Baker (10:25):
Oh, I love that question.
I think when, when I was in mytwenties and I got my early,
early twenties.
I'm not that old, uh, And youknow, I was kinda, I was very, I
was in the fitness industry.
I was very focused on what mybody looked like.
I really had, I held a lot ofweight and value in what, you
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know, and, and that was kind ofa hard thing for me because when
I was starting to go throughthese health issues and started
to get to a point, my bodydidn't really look the way I
wanted it to look.
As a fitness professional, itwas really hard and really
challenging, and so I steppedaway from training, uh, because
I had to do some healing.
But getting into, so.
The breast implants were one ofthose things that I thought,
(11:10):
well, I can't change this on myown.
I can change, I can grow mybutt, I can, you know, I can get
toned, I can tow my arms,whatever.
I can't change that.
So that will be the missing linkand, and my body will be perfect
once I get them.
And sure enough, that's notexactly what happens.
You get'em and then there'ssomething else you wanna fix.
And the same with That goalweight that a lot of women
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struggle with.
You get to the goal weight andthen you're like, well, I mean,
I could do another 10, 20 poundsless.
You know what I mean?
It never stops.
And so much of that is becauseyou're not fixing what's in
here.
You have to really learn to loveyourself and find your value and
your purpose, or you will alwayshave something else physically
that you feel like needs to befixed for you to be to that
(11:53):
perfect place.
And so when it got to the pointof removing them, I had done a
lot of healing as far as my.
body dysmorphia, if you wannacall it that way.
Um, my, like I said, putting myvalue into how I looked and how
I, what my body looked like.
And, um, a lot of the women inthe breast implant illness
community were kind of like,give yourself grace.
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When you get'em out, you'regonna look a lot different.
It's gonna, you know, feel a lotdifferent.
But honestly, I was so relievedthat they were out.
I wasn't putting my value in mybody at that point in time.
And so I was like, this isgreat.
I don't care.
I can give better hugs.
I can be closer to people when Ihug'em.
Like, you know, I just tried tolook at different things that
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weren't physical when it came tothat.
And, um, yeah, there's a lot ofemotion tied to, to that,
especially for, you know, I, Iknow that men go through it as
well, but, um, a lot of women inthe breast implant, uh, illness
community, Tie a lot of theirvalue to having a certain breast
size, which is crazy, that we'repushed to that point in this
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society.
But feeling like that could betaken away from you.
And then what?
And then you lose who you are oryou kind of lose that identity.
That's a lot.
That's hard for people to think.
I have to regain a new identitynow.
Michael Bauman (13:09):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's interesting cuz I mean,it shows up for everybody just
in a different, different arena.
You know, A lot of athletes.
Yeah.
Like when they finish playingsports, they're just like, this
was everything to me, like I wasan athlete and now I'm not.
Or an entrepreneur.
Yeah.
You know, whatever it is, we allhave to get to that point where
we have to, you know, startfeeling enough apart from, you
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know, the money, the, the looks,the, you know, whatever it is,
the fame, the recognition.
Yeah.
I'm curious for you in that kindof healing on the mental side of
things.
You know, you said you came intothat action line, a very good
place, a very kind of acceptingplace, but what did that look
like on the mental side ofthings for you?
The healing?
Dr. Stacy Baker (13:50):
It was a lot, it was a lot of, um, for me it
was a lot.
I removed myself from socialmedia completely, uh, because it
was a constant reminder that youdon't look this way or you, you
know what I mean?
Mm-hmm.
So for me, I had to, Iliterally, like, until I started
really, uh, getting intofunctional medicine, I had no
social media, uh, because Icouldn't do it.
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it was just too much.
And so for me, I had to kind ofremove all those things that
were like little, like nags inmy head.
Like, you're not doing enough.
You don't look like this.
Because at that point in time,physically, I, I would be
inflamed.
I got so bad that I, I couldn'tlift weights without being
inflamed or feeling like I hadthe flu for a week later.
So I was really like, I wasforced to stop and slow down
(14:36):
and.
Looking for other ways to behappy and look for other ways
to, uh, you know, other thingsto identify with.
Um, so that brought me to, uh,you know, amazingly that was
part of my journey and my nextstep into, all right, I'm going
back to school.
Um, because my initial degreewas in interior design, my
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bachelor's a little bit ago,little, little time ago.
So I was like, So I had this,you know, personal training,
nutrition background.
And so it really pushed me intothis, Hey, you wanna figure all
this stuff out?
Now is your time.
You're stepping away frompersonal training.
Uh, now is your time to justpour yourself into everything
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you wanna learn about health andwellness.
And so that's what I did.
Michael Bauman (15:21):
I love that.
And I think that's, I thinkthat's super, super great.
I'm, I'm curious, you know, cuzyou mentioned social media and
now you have a, you know, a bigpresence on social media.
I'm curious, what are some ofthe challenges that you still
kind of face around that?
Because especially, I mean,Instagram that is catered to
that, right?
Like if you're in the health andfitness arena, it's like
everybody doesn't have theirshirts on and they're by a beach
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and, you know, whatever.
Right?
Like, and if you're not doingthat, you're like, you know
what's going on or you feel likeyou need to do that to, to get
there.
Um, I'm curious for you, likehow do you, how do you navigate
still showing up authentically?
Or even if you have certainthings that you.
you know, trigger that you'relike, oh, I'm getting off track
here.
In terms of what I'm doing, I,I'm curious what that looks like
for you.
Dr. Stacy Baker (16:03):
Ah, yeah.
Such a good question.
When I decided, okay, I have toget on back on social media
because this is how I'm going toreach more people, there's, it's
a love-hate relationship, right?
I hate that it's a time suck.
I hate that it literally drainspeople of their consciousness.
Um, but I've met some amazingpeople like you and connected
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with a lot of amazing peoplebecause I'm on there.
It is a, it is a gateway foropportunity for me to have new
experiences and make newconnections with people.
So I focus on that aspect of it.
It looks like I'm on there alot.
I literally.
Maybe spend 10 or 15 minutes onthere a day, and I'm off.
I don't scroll.
Mm-hmm.
I don't, you know, I don'twaste.
(16:45):
It's not, it's not a time suckfor me.
I can't do it.
Um.
Mm-hmm.
The one thing that I love about,and I've had such tremendous
growth on Instagram, and I'm sothankful and so appreciative,
but it means so much to mebecause it's not because I'm put
putting pictures of myself up.
You see my posts are all text.
It's everything that, you know,every once in a while you'll see
a picture.
(17:06):
Um, but it's not.
my value isn't what I look like.
And for one of the first timesin my life since I've been on
social media, I am finallyrealizing like people value me
for other things.
Like, how amazing is that?
Um, yes, that's amazing.
If I was posting sexy like beachpicks, maybe I'd get some more
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likes, but but I don't have togo there, right?
And so that, like, that is whatwarms my heart.
And that's a way that I feelgood about being on social media
because I'm like, no, thesepeople aren't like, Oh, you
know, I'm, I'm not sellingclothes and I'm not selling
beauty products and I'm not, youknow, selling myself in what I
look like.
People are really valuing me forhow I think about things, and
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that is just so heartwarming tome.
Michael Bauman (17:51):
That's huge.
That's huge.
Yeah.
Like where you've created it tobe, showing your authentic self
and your authentic self isbringing so much of that value.
You're like, you're coming herebecause this is giving value to
you um, and it changed my lifeand hopefully it can change
yours, which is amazing.
Dr. Stacy Baker (18:07):
and I don't post.
Um, you know, I, a lot of peopledon't know that I, I have kids,
I don't post a lot about my kidsbecause I don't want that to be
their normal and they are notold enough to make that decision
to be on my social media, youknow what I mean?
And I don't want them to be onsocial media.
So, so it's one of those thingspeople are like, oh, you have
kids?
It's like, Yeah, but I'm notgonna be posting their pictures
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all the time because I'm veryprotective of that.
So if I ever do, it's like theback of their heads or something
where it's not recognizable orwhatever.
Michael Bauman (18:35):
Yeah, that's a, that's a really interesting
aspect to navigate as well,because you're, you're right.
Like, you know, same kind ofthing.
I have these lovely, beautifulkids and I just Yeah, like,
don't wanna post them.
And they could, they could havewonderful.
Pictures, but I'm like, eh,don't.
Dr. Stacy Baker (18:51):
I know, right?
It's like, no, I don't wanna gothere.
Michael Bauman (18:54):
Yeah.
So let's circle back around.
I mean, one, I really appreciateyou sharing around kind of the
mental aspect and, and goingthrough that, I, I think it's
super valuable.
So I really appreciate that.
And I wanted to circle backaround to some of the functional
medicine, to some of the, thenutrition and things like that.
And the, the one thing I wantedto kind of talk about,
Especially in your life, so youhave these compounding issues.
(19:17):
You know, it's like, like yousaid, every year you're
diagnosed with something elseand it can start to feel like
you're just like, I am, I'mbroken.
Like I just, like every yearthere's something else that's
broken about me and nobodyknows, or even validates
sometimes like what you'refeeling.
Like I feel this, and they'relike, yeah, it's nothing, right?
Mm-hmm.
So can you talk about that andfor you, once you start to kind
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of unpack the things and you getto that root cause, how does
that feel to go?
Oh, like, I'm not broken.
There's these things that arecontributing to it, and I have
this plan to actually get outout of here.
Dr. Stacy Baker (19:51):
Yes.
Yeah, for sure.
Um, that's, that's one thingthat I was so intrigued and I
will say I, I discoveredfunctional medicine through the
breast implant and illnesscommunity.
So like, it's one of thosethings that like, Everything
happens for a reason.
And if you don't catch thosesynchronicities, like you don't
understand your power, you know?
I did discover functionalmedicine and so after my ex
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plan, I mentioned that I, Iwasn't better, like I felt a
little better, but I, I wasn't,like, I had a lot more work to
do and so I, I worked with afunctional medicine practitioner
myself.
Um, I was in school at the time,but naturopathy is not
functional medicine.
It's totally different.
You know, na naturopathy,traditional naturopathy is like
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getting back to nature.
Fasting, sunlight, all of thatstuff.
Um, functional medicine hasaspects of that, but it is, uh,
there's a lot of lab orientated,uh, you know, things that, that,
that happened.
And so for me, I love runningthe lab work because, Everybody
who's come to me has had tonsand tons and tons of labs that
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have ran and just say thatthey're okay and they feel like
crap, you know?
And so for me to validate theirexperience and say, look, this
is why you have anxiety.
You have.
Gut imbalances, your low inmagnesium.
Uh, we probably have to work onparasites, you know what I mean?
Like I can tell them exactlywhy, or you're having, you know,
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neurological symptoms becauseyou have x, y, z toxins in your
body that need to be cleared.
For me, I had heavy metals, Ihad mold, um, I had gut
imbalances.
I had lots and lots of work todo, um, to get to the place that
I'm at now.
And so for me, it is the mostvalidating.
I've had so many people justlike cry when we go over their
(21:36):
labs out of like happinessbecause they finally feel like.
I knew I wasn't crazy.
And, and that's if I can tellanybody and like reinforce it.
It, it is just that your body isnot messing up.
Your symptoms are your body'sway of communicating with you.
And the more that you're gas litand told that those aren't real
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things, the more disconnectedyou become with that body mind
connection.
You know, because then you juststart to think there's something
wrong with you, like with yourhead,
Michael Bauman (22:07):
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
It, it's so huge.
Um, uh, can you talk a littlebit about, so you, you talked
about these labs, and this is areally important feature of it,
right?
Because people get these labswork done, everything comes
back, quote unquote normal.
But can you talk about thenormal range and what that's
based on and.
Basically what is more of likean optimal health kind of range?
Dr. Stacy Baker (22:30):
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, for sure.
Um, so especially in the US I'msure the ranges may be different
there, I'm not sure.
But like in the US think aboutthe, uh, the conventional ranges
are based on a very sickpopulation.
So if you're like, oh, I'm theleast sick out of like a very
sick population, that's stillnot an optimal place to be.
(22:51):
Um, so functional medicine, evenif I don't like blood work, I
don't, blood work is, your bloodis amazing.
It's homeostatic.
It is not gonna show much inyour bloodstream because it's
recirculating all the time.
And that is what's gonna staythe most homeostatic in your.
So that's why I use differentmetabolites like urine and hair,
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um, to look for longer trends oftime and longer patterns of, um,
imbalances.
So even if you looked at bloodwork through a functional range,
it would be way more narrow.
Um, and you would see signs ofdysfunction looking at blood
work, um, if you actually lookedat the optimal range versus the,
let's look at the sickpopulation range.
Michael Bauman (23:35):
Yes, absolutely.
Talk, talk to us about, youknow, cuz you keep talking about
the, the relationship of the gutand then actually mood.
Can you talk about, you know,nur neurotransmitters, how like
Yeah.
So many of them are produced inthe gut and you get into that
and how that affects us, uh,mental health.
Dr. Stacy Baker (23:52):
Yeah, so most of our, uh, most of our
neurotransmitters, so serotonin,dopamine, um, those are produced
in the gut.
So the way I always explain itis if you have inflammation in
the gut, you're gonna haveinflammation in the brain.
You're gonna have neuroinflammation because the gut in
the brain are connected throughthe gut brain axis or the vagus
nerve.
Um, so if there's, let's justsay, um, you know, your body is
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constantly sending signals.
If there's a problem in the gut,it's gonna con, you know, have.
Stress signal that's sent up tothe brain.
So a lot of times, um, and thenyou can even have specific
bacteria overgrowth and thingslike that, that can, um, start
to cause havoc in the pathwaysthat neurotransmitters are
supposed to take.
So a lot of times you'll see onlab work, some of the in
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inhibitors.
Of things like serotonin anddopamine.
And so when you start to look atsome of these ratios, you're
like, yeah, I see exactly whyyou have, um, anxiety or a d d
behavior or things like that.
Because your dopamine isbuilding up, your body cannot
release it.
So it's really cool to be ableto validate, um, you know, and
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if you don't, if I, I'm lookingat it at their gut and I'm not
seeing the connection there,then it's generally a, um, a
deficiency.
So then we look at minerals anda lot of times it's a magnesium
deficiency.
And then there's even the, likeI said, the para, uh, the
parasite component to it.
Parasites definitely, uh, play arole in how our
neurotransmitters are alteredand things like that.
So a lot of times we're gonnahave to run through parasites as
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well.
If there's any sort of, uh,neurotransmitter I.
Michael Bauman (25:22):
Yeah.
And, and magnesium.
I wanna talk about magnesium fora little bit because it's a,
it's a lovely one, uh, that mostpeople are deficient in.
Can you talk about magnesium'srole in the body and what people
can do to, you know, just makesure they're getting enough of
it.
Dr. Stacy Baker (25:36):
Yeah.
So magnesium's important forlike over 600 enzymatic.
You know, processes in the body.
So, uh, those, the biggest onesbeing liver detoxification and,
uh, mitochondrial function.
So, um, and you gotta think too,magnesium is our calm mineral.
So when we're chronicallystressed, which.
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That's how our environment isthese days.
We're chronically stressed.
That's gonna be the first thingwe burn through.
And so you only have a certainreserve, right?
And so once that's gone, thenyour body's gonna start to
become catabolic, uh, becauseit's gonna find its magnesium in
other ways.
So making sure that you, I wouldsay literally everyone I have
test.
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Needs magnesium across theboard.
Mm-hmm.
Um, and, and you gotta thinktoo, our soil, our produce, all
of these things are more andmore deficient.
We have less and less, um, youknow, minerals in our soil.
And so that too is alreadyleading to this underlying
deficiency of, of things likemagnesium.
calcium, sodium, potassium aremain electrolytes.
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Um, and then you have people whoare chugging plain water, um,
because they're, you know,influenced by the fitness
professionals.
And yes, you need to behydrated, but you gotta make
sure you're replacing thoseminerals or you're just flushing
even more of the good stuff thatyou already have that is already
deficient in the body.
So lots of factors come intoplay.
Uh, magnesium is definitely oneof those things that I could
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universally say everybody.
Michael Bauman (27:04):
Yeah.
Would that be in supplement formor through, you know, yeah,
definitely.
Green leafy vegetables or allthe above.
Dr. Stacy Baker (27:10):
I mean, I, I would love for it to be, um,
just through food, but like Isaid, even in food, uh, the
content of magnesium is less andless because our soil is so
depleted.
So magnesium, yes.
Um, a complex is gonna be thebest for everybody because each
strain of magnesium, there'seight of'em.
Each one does somethingdifferent.
So some of them are gonna helpwith bowel movements.
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Some's gonna help with at t vproduction.
Um, some's gonna help withsleep.
So if you just get on a complexthat's just kind of like
universal, uh, you can supportall of those areas without just
like guessing which one youneed.
Michael Bauman (27:45):
Fantastic Yeah.
So let's talk about the bigelephant in the room in
everybody's life right now isthe, is the stress.
Um, can you talk about juststress, talk about cortisol,
talk about inflammation, all thefun things?
Dr. Stacy Baker (27:59):
Yes.
I just did an adrenal likeburnout summit, so it's very,
uh, you know, it's somethingthat I deal with every day,
especially for a lot of womenwho are like, why can't I lose
weight?
It's like, um, you live offcoffee.
you skip breakfast, you don'tsleep.
You're high stress at your work.
You are.
You are raising children, likeeverything is contributing to
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high cortisol levels no matterwhat you eat.
If those cortisol levels arestill high, then your body will
not let you lose weight becausewhen your cortisol's high, your
blood sugar's gonna be high.
And vice versa, like if yourblood sugar drops too low, which
is something I see often withwomen because they, um, don't
eat enough protein and theirblood sugar's erratic.
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And a lot of that's just, itsdropping too low cuz they're
skipping meals and things likethat.
So, um, that is contributing sohighly to inflammation and I, I
often sit there and think likeif people ate the amount of
protein their bodies needs, ifthey balance their blood sugar
throughout the day, I reallywonder how much chronic
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inflammation would just go away.
Mm-hmm.
because foundationally, thosethings have to happen first.
you could take every supplementin the world to like lower
inflammation, but if you areconstantly, uh, living with
erratic blood sugar and you are,you know, high cortisol, you
can't manage your stress, you'renot taking time daily, you're
not getting sunshine, you're nottaking that time for mindfulness
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or whatever you need to set andreground, no supplement can fix
that.
It's all lifestyle
Michael Bauman (29:31):
at that.
Yeah, absolutely.
And it's really important cuz alot of times we want, we want
the supplement to fix all of ourproblems and we, because
lifestyle stuff is hard, right?
Yeah.
They're like, change that stuff.
What's the pi?
But you need to change thatstuff.
and then a supplement, it'scalled a supplement for a
reason.
right.
The supplement's what you'redoing or should be doing.
Right.
Exactly.
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No, this.
Super, super important.
Right.
Super, super important.
I'm curious, um, cuz you're,you're talking about skipping
meals and things like that.
I'm curious your thoughts aroundintermittent fasting mm-hmm.
and how that is, is it differentor do you still have, you know,
cortisol, you know, responsesand stuff to that?
What does that look like?
Dr. Stacy Baker (30:10):
Most people who come to me are not ready for
intermittent fasting.
And I, um, I mean it's just,it's that I just have to put it
out there.
They're not in a healthy bodythat has a good metabolism,
that's done the liver support.
You are stabilizing blood sugar.
You can go without skipping ameal and without being hangry or
having that blood sugar drop,you can play with some
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intermittent fasting, skipping,and the way I look at
intermittent fasting, it is morebeneficial to the body when it
comes to stress hormones to skipdinner.
than it is to skip breakfast.
The reason why is because wehave a cortisol rhythm and your
cortisol's higher, um, in themorning than it is at night.
And so if you are skippingbreakfast and your blood sugar's
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dropping and you already havehigh cortisol, then your body's
already gonna be in thatinflammatory state.
However, Dinner, that's when ourcortisol starts to taper off.
And so if you wanna extend thatfasting window, it's way more
beneficial for hormones, formetabolism, for all of those
things to skip dinner than itwould be to skip breakfast or
lunch.
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So it, when you ease or get intothe point where you can start
playing with intermittentfasting, that's the window I
always, uh, recommend starting.
Michael Bauman (31:25):
that's fascinating because you, you're
right, and most people don'trealize it, it is a stressor as
well.
Like your body is justfundamentally, like, I'm trying
to survive and all of a sudden Idon't have food.
So it's stressed, right?
Like it's going like, and likewhat you're talking about, if
you have a ton of cortisol and aton of inflammation already, um,
it's just an additionalstressor.
That's, yeah.
That's really fascinating.
I'm curious for you, what doesyour one kind of like self-care
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routine look like, um mm-hmm.
for yourself.
And then I'm curious as far aslike nutrition and exercise, you
know, what that looks like foryou.
Dr. Stacy Baker (31:57):
Yeah.
So finally I'm in a place whereI can work out again.
Um, you know, like I said, whenI was struggling, yes.
It was really hard when I, thatwas like, not only was it my
identity, but that's how I like,got the endorphins going and you
know, I love working out and Ilove, um, I love sharing that,
like in with people in to seewhen they start incorporating
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how different their lifechanges.
Um, so for me, I get up at four30 in the morning.
Um, I work out, I wait train foryou.
Well, the way, the way I look atit is like if I can do all this
when my family's asleep, youknow, and I can get a jumpstart
to the day I go to bed early.
So, um, I can get my well done.
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Well, your kids are still young.
When they, when they get alittle bit older, you
Michael Bauman (32:46):
like, yeah, they're my wake up alarm for
like five 30.
Hey dad.
I'm like, well, that goes myworkout.
That's not gonna happen.
.Exactly.
Dr. Stacy Baker (32:53):
Talk about high cortisol.
Yeah.
Uh, getting waken by childrenall day.
That's high cortisol.
Um, but yeah, so I, I, I.
Weight train.
I get some movement in.
Um, I do yoga a few times aweek.
I, um, I definitely, I make thetime to meditate every single
morning, um, in the saunausually.
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And so I'm sweating, making sureI'm moving things out.
Um, you know, I incorporatethings like dry brushing, castor
oil packs as often as I thinkabout probably I should do more,
but but I
Michael Bauman (33:25):
definitely, can you explain
Dr. Stacy Baker (33:26):
I
Michael Bauman (33:26):
definitely, can you explain those for people?
Dr. Stacy Baker (33:28):
Yeah, so dry brushing, think of it as moving
your lymphatic system.
So when you're, um, you know,Our lymph doesn't have a pump
like our heart does.
But it's very important because,uh, that's where a lot of our
toxins and our, you know, cellsthat have been died and that
need to move out and things likethat, that's where they're
located.
So moving your lymph is soimportant.
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Um, so whether that's drybrushing or rebounding or um,
lymphatic massage, whatever thatlooks like for me, I find it
most beneficial to do thatbefore a sauna because then you
sweat, you're utilizing thatskin pathway, you've already
moved your lymph, so you'removing those toxins out a little
bit quicker.
Um, and then the caster oilpacks.
Um, Are used to support liverinflammation.
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So, uh, and just an extra liversupport you can do to help
increase glutathione and thingslike that.
You sleep with some castor oilon your liver, that can
definitely be supportive.
Um, coffee enemas every now andthen can be really supportive
too.
But that's a little moreadvanced for some people.
For me, making sure I havemovement, making sure I have
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sunshine, making sure I'mfueling my body, um, correctly.
And for me that means eatingsignificant amounts of protein
throughout the day.
It is what's.
Stabilizes my blood sugar.
It's what helps with my musclegrowth and repair.
You need complete amino acidprofile to be able to not just
build muscle.
It's not about just being sw,right?
It's about building every littlething in our body.
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Our cells, ourneurotransmitters, our hormones.
All of those things need aminoacids.
Um, so when people come to meand they're like, you know, I'm
doing everything right, but, youknow, I'm, I'm not getting
better and I'm not, I'm not ableto build muscle.
And I'm like, well, how muchprotein are you eating?
You know, and they, they don'teven, you know, they pay track
or they're having like less than50 grams of protein a day.
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There's no adult that shouldhave less than a hundred grams
of protein a day.
That's one reason why we havethis epidemic of blood sugar
dysregulation and, you know,insulin resistance and things
like that.
Because for one, people aren'tweight training and for two,
they're not consuming enoughamino.
Mm-hmm.
Michael Bauman (35:31):
Yeah.
That's, that's really important.
What is, what does nutritionlook like for you on a daily?
Dr. Stacy Baker (35:37):
Yeah.
So I, I start my day off with agood, like 30 grams of protein a
day.
Um, usually I usually, um, workout fasted and it's not for any
sort of like fat loss purpose.
I just don't feel good with afull stomach for the most part.
Like, I don't work out well.
Um, so if I have energy, I willgo ahead and work out fasted.
If, if I'm feeling a littlesluggish sometimes I'll have
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something before.
Um, but I usually start my daywith just like some good, like a
collagen peptide.
uh, you know, protein, you know,smoothie or something like that.
Sometimes I'll mix in someblueberries, some antioxidant
fruits, something like that,just like low glycemic, um, to
start my day.
Lunch is when your digestion isthe strongest, so that's when I
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have like a big salad.
I'll have a big loaded withveggies, loaded with all that
good stuff.
Protein, of course.
Avocado, I have avocado everysingle day.
Um, making sure I give thosehealthy fats in.
So I really, really, um, do wellwith that.
I don't find that I snack thatmuch anymore.
Um, and I really feel like whenyou have.
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the amount of protein and fatthat your body needs, you really
don't snack.
If I do, I, you know, I'll justgrab, you know, some walnuts or
you know, some carrot chips andguacamole or something like
that.
Something, you know, healthy andsubstantial that has good fats
in it.
And then, um, dinner, you know,we're usually home at that
point, so dinner, we usuallyhave some sort of protein,
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whether it's, you know, chickenor I'm making, um, Chili, B
chili or something like that,whatever it is.
Um, we usually get in a fewroasted veggies and some
protein, and that's just, youknow, that's how, how hard the
day goes.
So making sure e each meal has agood amount of protein in it,
healthy fats for that, you know,substantial type meal.
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And just making sure that, beingcognizant that I'm not having
carbs alone and I'm not spikingmy blood sugar throughout the
day with, you know, giving mybody kind of time to digest and
metabolize the food that I eatby kind of waiting in between
meals to eat.
Michael Bauman (37:38):
Yeah.
No, that's, that's super, supergreat.
What, what does, um, do you doany prepping for that?
Or is this just kind of, youknow, you make it day off.
Dr. Stacy Baker (37:47):
Don't Uh, you should see my work.
Like when I bring my bag towork, I'll have like, like the
stuff to make a salad, but it'sall just like thrown in a tote.
I, I'm not the best
Michael Bauman (37:59):
lettuce outta the bottom of your,
Dr. Stacy Baker (38:04):
you're like boiled eggs loose in the, in the
tote.
The other day I was like, wow,this is dumb.
I should I should, I always tellpeople like, you know, failing
to prepare is preparing to fail,right?
But I, I know I can always throwit together.
If that's not you, thendefinitely prepare Um, but.
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Uh, yeah, I always make sure Ihave things on hand, but as far
as meal prepping, I don't likemeal prepping because, um, meal
prep, you know, the more I, the,I feel like when you reheat
food, it loses life the more youreheat and, you know, cook and
put things in the every
Michael Bauman (38:41):
time you just reheated chicken breasts, they
don't do it for you.
No No.They do not do it for me.
Dr. Stacy Baker (38:49):
No, I am, yeah, I'm just, I'm kind of a food
stop.
I don't, I don't love making allyour food like the week before.
I'm just kind of like, and two,I like to eat intuitively,
right?
Like some days I don't want thatchicken and rice and broccoli
from like three days ago.
That's kind of gross, right?
Michael Bauman (39:06):
Yes, yes.
There are definitely benefits toboth, but I think you're right.
You have to find.
You just have to find whatworks.
You know, so many times we justtry to put ourselves into some,
like expert said, you know, dothis or whatever, and it just
like doesn't work with yourlife.
It doesn't resonate.
So you just gotta figure outlike, what does it work well?
what does it work well?
What works with my life rightnow,
Dr. Stacy Baker (39:25):
Yeah, obviously, like from how I just
described my salad, you don'twanna follow me
Michael Bauman (39:30):
Right.
I also don't want those eggsthat are in the bottom of your
bank.
So, you know, reheated chicken,you know, little, little hard
eggs.
Yeah.
But you do you though, right?
Dr. Stacy Baker (39:44):
Yeah.
Michael Bauman (39:48):
What, uh, what does, what does supplements look
like for you?
Dr. Stacy Baker (39:52):
Kind of changes based on what, what I'm working.
So I, I just actually got doneworking through some Lyme and
co-infections personally.
I'm done clearing my system fora while.
I've been detoxing for such along time that I'm kind of in
more of a restorative place.
Um, so like I said, the, the,um, amino acids, collagen
peptides I take daily.
I take a probiotic dailymagnesium, B vitamins, um, and
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then I take binders, um, that Ikind of rotate binders.
Are you familiar?
Binders and explain it.
Explain what binders are.
Yeah, sure.
So binders are basically, eventhough I've detoxed, you know,
it's, it's a, it's a practice,right?
You don't just stop.
You're still exposed to lots ofthings.
It's in our
Michael Bauman (40:36):
Oh, you can't just eat hamburgers and french
fries like I detox, man.
Dr. Stacy Baker (40:40):
I'm good.
I I'm good.
I I did, I did a seven weekcleanse.
I'm good.
Michael Bauman (40:45):
I conquered inflammation.
That is in the past.
Dr. Stacy Baker (40:48):
Yeah.
No, so a good binder will forma, a bond with the toxins to
help your body remove itproperly, whether that's through
your sweat or through your colonor whatever it, it's gonna
target.
And so I, I use ones that targetspecific things based on
whatever I am, you know, like ifI'm, get my hair done, I'm gonna
have one that's gonna be, youknow, tailored to chemicals and
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environmental toxins.
Mm-hmm.
and things like that.
So, um, if I'm traveling,definitely I'm gonna use one.
Uh, that's gonna be, uh, moreattuned to glyphosate and things
like that because I can'tcontrol my food as much as I do
at home.
So I definitely use thosebinders before and after sauna
just to make sure I'm staying upwith my toxin load and I'm not
gonna get behind and crash likeI did, you know, so many years
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ago.
Michael Bauman (41:34):
Interesting.
What are, what are the ones thatyou use for hair and what's the,
what are the ones that you kindof do for, uh, travel?
Dr. Stacy Baker (41:42):
So I, I'm a huge, uh, believer in cell core
binders.
It's a, it's a company.
I'm not sure if they're there,but, uh, definitely big in the
US Uh, it's definitelysomething, yeah, it's, they're,
you have to order'em through apractitioner because they are
like heavy duty stuff.
Um, so they have ones that aretailored towards biotoxins,
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which like, when we're workingon the gut, that's what we're
gonna using.
They have ones that are tailoredtowards radiation and viruses
and chemicals.
So that's the one I usually usewhen I'm traveling.
And then they have one that's,uh, made for heavy metals and
environmental toxins.
So between those, I just kind ofrotate'em out cuz I know I'm
exposed, all that stuff, youknow, just living life.
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So I try to kind of, I'm kind ofa person that I like to do.
A lot of things in one, youknow, so if I can bind sweat,
meditate, all those things inlike one little setting, I'm
gonna do that.
Michael Bauman (42:36):
nice at four 30 in the morning.
Yeah, Good work.
Good work.
So what about all the peoplethat, uh, don't wake up at four
30 in the morning?
So I, I'm curious for you, like,where, where would you say
people can start.
Like what is, what is a goodstarting point?
You know, like obviously soindividual to, you know, the
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person to the circumstance, butif you were to kind of give some
general recommendations Yeah.
What would those
Dr. Stacy Baker (43:04):
be?
You know, it's, it's crazy.
Uh, we live in a world where Ihave to prescribe 10 minutes.
of mindfulness to people and 10minutes of like, uh, getting 20
minutes of sunshine a day.
Those are things I have toprescribe.
But I will say, so somethingthat I feel like everyone can
try and start, um, you know, ifyou work, you don't work for
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yourself and you work in anoffice, have lunch, some either
outside.
So you can get your sunshineand, you know, have that time to
rest and digest.
So you're, you're gettingmultiple things at once.
Um, and then possibly go on awalk afterwards to help with
those blood sugar management.
Get a little extra movement in.
So make sure you leave youroffice and like, don't eat
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lunch, like where you work.
That's like one thing I think alot of people can start to think
about and incorporate.
Um, if that, just find a time inthe day.
If you know that you can go on awalk, be outside.
We have such an epidemic ofpeople struggling with insomnia
and things like that, and a lotof that's because people aren't
getting sunshine and they're notgetting the photo receptor
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turning on their melatonin.
So finding a way if that'ssitting outside in the morning
and having, you know, Yourbreakfast outside and getting
that sunshine and sunlight andmaybe some grounding.
If you can just find little waysthat you can start to
incorporate a tiny bit of natureinto your life and it will make
such a dramatic difference.
(44:28):
Just having that time in themoment, um, where you're kind
of, like I said, you're justkind of soaking in things that
are around you and just kind ofpouring into yourself, even if
it's just 10 minutes a day.
Michael Bauman (44:40):
I love that.
I love that advice.
You don't have to, you know,overall haul everything, but,
you know, yeah, that's a,definitely a big bang for your
buck type of thing.
Mm-hmm.
So I think that's super great.
What about, um, what aboutsleep?
Like what, what, let's talkabout sleep and what are your
recommendations around that?
Dr. Stacy Baker (44:56):
Yeah, I'm a huge protector of my sleep, as
you know.
Super.
My kids were young too, at onetime, and that's why everybody's
like, do you want another baby?
I'm like, Nope.
I like sleeping.
Michael Bauman (45:08):
I'm.
Yes.
I like
Dr. Stacy Baker (45:10):
sleeping.
Yes.
Yeah.
Um, so I've had my sleep takenaway from me many a night.
Um, but I will say, so, um, likeI said, there's that kind of,
that epidemic of insomnia.
Uh, a lot of it's a lack ofsunshine.
A lot of it's, uh, blue lightexposure, um, wifi, running
through your house all night,you know.
So for me, um, making sure thatyou're not having your screens
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on.
Um, you know, throughout the,uh, as soon I guess from sunset
on, making sure you at leasthave a blue light filter on your
screen is gonna be supersupportive because that blue
light shuts off your melatoninlike that.
So as much as you can protectthat, and even throughout the
day, making sure, like, I have awarm filter on my devices all
day long, and you can reallytell the difference that makes
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in your ice strain, your nervoussystem, things like that.
So being really protective ofthat.
uh, making sure your room ispitch dark, you know, so your
melatonin can really kind ofturn on, make sure it's nice and
cool.
I like it like 66 degrees.
Cool.
Like, that's kind of like anideal temp.
Um, and, um, like I said, justkind of making sure you get your
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wifi on a timer.
Shut it off at night whileyou're sleep.
You don't, you don't need itgoing through your house.
I mean, I have a homeharmonizer, but I, I know
everybody's not, you know, therejust shut your wifi off you
know, and I start there beforeyou invest in all these other
things.
Um, so yeah, things like that.
Magnesium can be a hugeproponent, you know, some people
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do really well, taking a littlebit of mag their magnesium at
night, um, to support that deep,restful sleep.
But that's when we repair andrestore.
And so if you're not gettinginto that deep restful.
then you're kind of alreadywaking up with that stress.
Right.
And the stress hormones, like wetalked about, um, your body
can't rebuild.
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And so even if you're pushingyourself in the gym, if you're
not getting good restful sleep,the magic is in the rest.
Your muscles repair and rebuildin the, in the rest part, not
where you're, you know, doingyour bicep curls.
Michael Bauman (47:08):
Yeah, yeah.
People don't realize.
Dr. Stacy Baker (47:10):
Yeah, for sure.
Take a rest
Michael Bauman (47:12):
day.
You break it down when you'reworking out and you get stronger
when you sleep
Dr. Stacy Baker (47:17):
Yes.
Yes.
You gotta have both.
Yeah.
Michael Bauman (47:20):
Yeah, super important.
I had the, um, founder of exos,uh, and the N F l performance
Director on, and his firstfacility basically plastered up
on the wall work plus restequals success.
Yes.
And it's so important,especially in that peak
performance kind of mindset.
We're just like, work equalssuccess right.
We just take out that, thatrest, but it's actually like so
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important in every areacognitively.
So, gosh, mental health, oh mygosh.
Physically, whatever.
You can name it.
Yeah.
so I want to ask, you know, I'mcurious, and I usually ask this
question kind of as we, as wewrap up.
So for you, I'm curious, howwould you go about defining
success?
And then I'm also curious foryou, how you define success in
terms of your wellness, um, as aparent, you know, what does that
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look like for you?
Dr. Stacy Baker (48:06):
Yeah, I love this question.
Um, success to me is, livingyour truth and living your
passion.
And I don't mean like I, thatcan sound really cliche and
vague, but I mean like whatmakes the hair on the back of
your neck stand up?
Like the minute you find thatand pour into that, that is
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success.
And um, you know, it looks sodifferently for people.
You know, a lot of people thinksuccess is wealth and the money
comes.
if you're pouring into thatpassion, you know what I mean?
And it's not all about that.
It, you know, wealth can bewisdom and knowledge.
You know what I mean?
It's so much more than justmoney.
(48:47):
And so finding that drive andthat purpose and pouring
everything you have into that islike what I define success as
for sure.
And just like I said, beingreally true to your, um, your
inner being and your truenature.
And it's different foreverybody, right?
We all have our own gifts andour own things that we are meant
to bring into this world.
(49:07):
So really finding that andpouring into that, I think is,
um, what I would label asultimate success.
Now, when it comes to your body,I think, um, being intuitive,
listening, learning your body'ssignal.
It speaks in a language ofsymptoms.
Uh, you know, whether that'sfatigue or, you know, burnout
(49:29):
for some people, or anxiety orwhatever it is, your body's
communicating with you and don'tever let anybody take that away
from you and tell you it's notreal.
because your body is thesmartest machine we to, you
know, that we will ever, everknow, and it knows so much more
than we do.
So definitely don't ever lose.
So being intuitive with yourbody, being intuitive with your
(49:49):
mind and your nervous system,and know when it's time, like we
said, to take a break and totake that time to pour into
yourself, let yourself rest andrecover mentally, physically,
emotionally, all of that is soimportant.
And then as a parent, so youknow, we have this.
Environment where, uh, you know,we are our, it feels like our
(50:12):
world is always just set todivide and, um, you know, and
label and judge.
And I think as a parent, I, youknow, I.
I always tell my husband, like,we change the world by treating
our kids to allow people to bewho they are, to love them
unconditionally.
And you know, that's how wechange the world.
(50:32):
And so for me as a parent, if Ican teach my kids to always love
and, um, respect and haveempathy for everybody in every
situation, that's what I defineas parenting success.
Love that.
Michael Bauman (50:46):
I love all those things.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Yeah, I think those are allreally, really important.
So yeah, being authentic,living, you know, finding that
passion, finding what you know,makes your hair stand up and
going for it, I think is justamazing.
Yeah.
And like you said, with a, witha body, like actually valuing it
and listening to it and learningto pay attention.
(51:06):
And then parenting.
Yes.
you know, teaching them to beempathetic and to love people
and not be divisive.
That would be so great.
if we had more people's, so weneed Yeah.
You know, myself, myselfincluded.
Right.
Something to always, always workon.
So, yeah.
Thank you so much.
This was, this was a lot of fun.
We covered.
You know, a lot of ground, butwe had had fun doing it.
(51:27):
So I, I appreciate your time,
Dr. Stacy Baker (51:30):
Thanks so much for
Michael Bauman (51:31):
Absolutely.
Where, where can Where, wherecan people go to, um, connect
with the incredible stuff thatyou do?
Dr. Stacy Baker (51:37):
Yeah, thank you.
So I pour all of my energy intoInstagram, basically.
So, um, at dr or dr.
Dot, stacy dot nd is where youcan find me.
And then I do have my podcastvibing well with Dr.
Stacy that I, um, have too.
So I talk about my own things onthere too.
Michael Bauman (51:54):
Cool.
And I'll put, I'll put links toall those in the show notes, but
Cool.
Yeah.
Thank you.
It was, it was a fun, it was afun conversation.
I really enjoyed it.
Thank you so much.
That goal weight that a lot of women
(00:02):
struggle with.
You get to the goal weight andthen you're like, well, I mean,
I could do another 10, 20 poundsless.
You know what I mean?
It never stops.
And so much of that is becauseyou're not fixing what's in
here.
You have to really learn to loveyourself and find your value and
your purpose, or you will alwayshave something else physically
that you feel like needs to befixed for you to be to that
(00:23):
perfect place.
Michael Bauman (01:05):
Hello, everybody! Happy New Year!
Hopefully 2023 is going to bebetter than 2022.
But all we can do is try tocontrol the things that we can
amidst all the craziness that isthe world right now.
So one of those things that alot of people focus on in
January is health and fitness.
(01:25):
So this is why that's the topicfor this month.
I have experts on that providereally practical tips, top
advice on how you cansustainably improve this area of
your life.
And the emphasis is onsustainable because as longtime
listeners know of the podcast.
I'm all about consistentsustainable action 80% of new
(01:50):
year's resolutions actually failby February.
I think if I remember correctly,it's February 8th, where most
gym memberships get canceled.
Um, if you even go to the gymanymore.
So we need to focus on how wecan sustainably make these
improvements in a way thatchanges our life, um, but
changes in our life in a waythat we can actually continue to
(02:12):
do it over the long term.
So this is why I have experts onfrom everybody, from somebody
who has a PhD in naturopathic.
Just, I mean, it's a masterclasson health and nutrition.
Um, how you can balance yourhormones, it's amazing.
And then another expert we haveon is a sleep coach who gives
(02:32):
you really practical things youcan do straightaway to optimize
your sleep, which optimize everyother area of your life: focus,
cognition, relationships,emotions.
I mean, everything you can thinkof.
So very practical on that areaas well.
Then another guests we have onis actually a coach themselves
who transformed their life, wentfrom couch potato to an
(02:53):
endurance runner.
it does a bunch of enduranceevents now and lost a bunch of
weight and has sustainably keptit off.
And they'll tell you how theydid that.
A little quick tip, a quicksneak peek on that.
It's all mindset.
So it's all how we think and howwe structure that in our brain.
And then we'll have a nationallyrenowned fitness expert, who
(03:15):
will give you very practicaladvice on how to structure your
exercise routine and maximizethat with the shortest period of
time possible.
So excited for this! Welcomeback! We're going to hit the
ground running Season 7 which iscrazy, but excited to be here.
Excited you guys are here andI'll provide a ton of value and
(03:37):
insight for you guys.
So here we go.
Let's jump into it.
I have Dr.
Stacy Baker on.
She's a traditional naturopathwho specializes in functional
medicine.
Herself suffering from a chronicillness for most of her life,
she actually found relief in aholistic approach that allowed
her to regain her health,correct her imbalances.
She discovered functionalmedicine.
Basically changed her life.
(03:58):
And she set forth to help asmany people as possible, which
is fantastic.
So been in health and wellnessfor close to 15 years.
Doctorate, traditionalnaturopath, naturopathy, I
always can't say that word.
Level two, integrative healthcertification.
Uh, here we go.
And then a bunch of otherfunctional medicine
certifications.
So I'm really excited for thisconversation.
(04:19):
we'll just cut to the chase.
Welcome to the show.
Let's just get to it.
Dr. Stacy Baker (04:22):
Yeah.
Michael Bauman (04:24):
Exactly.
You're great.
Okay.
Everybody knows.
All right.
So let's, let's talk about, Imean, your background, your
family of M MDs.
Um, you were the, as you callit, the sickest in the family of
eight.
So let's talk about kind of thatbackground and how that shaped,
you know, your formative years.
Dr. Stacy Baker (04:43):
The short express version, um, so my
parents are MDs, my olderbrother's an md.
Um, I had struggled for a longtime from, from early, early on
with things like anxiety, uh,gut issues, immune system
issues, dental issues, whichwould, you know, it all, all
just kind of snowballed andpiled on.
And a lot of it was, um,triggered by my dairy
(05:06):
sensitivity, which led me torounds and rounds of antibiotics
cuz I had chronic ear infectionsas a child.
Mm-hmm.
Um, so obviously my gut was, youknow, the.
Compromise than anyone else inmy family, which led to think
about oral antibiotics is gonnalead to more oral dysbiosis.
So dental issues, um, gut issuesare gonna lead to anxiety, and
so we just keep snowballing andsnowballing and snowballing.
(05:28):
And so, um, it just kind of, youknow, When I was getting into
my, you know, older years as faras like high school and things
like that, when I found out my,you know, MD parents didn't know
what was going on, you know,like of course they would send
me to the best doctors, butnothing was ever synchronizing
(05:49):
with like my symptoms.
I wasn't at a disease level yet.
So it was kind of like, Maybethey're in your head.
Just take this anxietymedication and you know, and see
how it goes.
So it just, it wasn't until Ikind of thought outside the box,
outside this conventional boxand I was the worst patient ever
too in a conventional setting.
Cuz I'm like, tell me what'swrong with me.
(06:10):
I'm not taking any medicine youknow?
Mm-hmm.
And they don't really know whatto do with that.
So, um, so anyways, I'm a personwho is, when I wanna find
something.
I will do everything I can andlearn every single thing I can
so I can actually get to the,to, you know, the root of what
was going.
And a lot of that just led me tomy issues and trying to figure
(06:32):
out why I got that way, how tofix it, and now how can I help
everybody else that's strugglingwith the same things.
Michael Bauman (06:39):
how that kind of came to a head early to mid, mid
twenties for you and what thestory was around that?
Dr. Stacy Baker (06:45):
Yeah, sure.
So, um, so like you, I was apersonal trainer right around
college years and even a littlebit after.
It was something I could dopart-time when I was home with
my children.
Um, and I really was.
Not only dealing with my ownissues with body image and
breast implants, which I'm surewe'll talk about the breast
(07:07):
implant, uh, aspect of healing.
But, uh, I was noticing I wasattracting clients who also had
very similar health issues.
So a lot of the autoimmune typeissues, the chronic fatigue,
inability to lose weight.
Um, and so not only was.
Inspired by them to kind oflearn more knowledge and it's so
(07:27):
much more than calories andcalories out when you have
things like mitochondrialdysfunction and gut issues and
high cortisol levels and thingslike that.
So it was really cool.
It was like everything was kindof falling into place to kind
of, um, inspire me to, to notonly learn for myself like how
to get people through this, butyou know how to help everybody
else.
That was like, kind of beingbrought to me in that situation.
(07:50):
It's kind of full circle.
Mm.
Michael Bauman (07:52):
Yeah.
And so what did that look likefor you?
So you get diagnosed with like,uh, hyperthyroidism and that's
like six months or so after the,the breast implants.
And you didn't put it togetherat that period of time, but, and
then, you know, you had babiesand stuff like that.
Yeah.
So what, what kind of came, cameto a head for you?
Dr. Stacy Baker (08:08):
Being in the fitness industry, I had
definitely overtrained andoverstressed my body.
I already had all this, like,you know, I told you the baggage
from all my other health issuesfrom being young, uh, cue the
breast implants, thyroid issues,like you said, less than six
months after I had the implantsput in.
And then every year or so it wasanother.
Um, diagnosis, whether it wasvertigo or pots or you know, all
(08:33):
of these other things that kindof, every single year it was a
new diagnosis and I was justlike, finally, I kind of got to
the point where I was, I waskind of looking at the breast
implant community.
It wasn't as big as it is now atthat time, you know, cuz you're
thinking this is.
uh, you know, seven years ago, Idon't know.
I'm not, I don't wanna agemyself too much, but it was a
(08:54):
while ago, and so I would kindalike peak at the symptoms of
breast and plain illness, and Iwas like, oh.
you know, I don't have all of'em, so maybe it's not it.
So I would try to heal and doother things, but I, it always
kind of led me back, likethere's, there's a bigger thing
that needs to be addressed.
And so one day it just hit me,like I, I've, I don't think I
can really fully heal until Iremove this constant stressor in
(09:17):
this constant thing that issuppressing my immune system.
Um, so I, I scheduled to get'emout like within a couple months
of that like aha moment and, um,and it really had to be in the
right time because I had to makesure that, you know, it really
was part of my problem.
I just, I always have to learnthe hard way, and, but, but I
(09:39):
will say in implant um, I wasn'tone of those magical, like, oh,
I feel better right away people.
I still had a lot of work to do.
I had a lot of gut balancing.
I had heavy metals.
I had mold.
I had a lot of other things thathad to be addressed.
But it was one thing that if Iwouldn't have addressed it, it
would've still been that, like Isaid, that suppression of the
(09:59):
immune system, that would've notgone away.
Michael Bauman (10:02):
So I'm curious, I want to, you know, before we
get into all the, you know,nutrition and, and stuff like
that, I'm curious on like, theemotional side for, for you one,
I'm curious, uh, how did youfeel differently when you got
the breast implants in the firstplace?
Um, and then also like how wereyour emotions and stuff around
getting them removed?
(10:23):
I'm curious about that.
Dr. Stacy Baker (10:25):
Oh, I love that question.
I think when, when I was in mytwenties and I got my early,
early twenties.
I'm not that old, uh, And youknow, I was kinda, I was very, I
was in the fitness industry.
I was very focused on what mybody looked like.
I really had, I held a lot ofweight and value in what, you
(10:48):
know, and, and that was kind ofa hard thing for me because when
I was starting to go throughthese health issues and started
to get to a point, my bodydidn't really look the way I
wanted it to look.
As a fitness professional, itwas really hard and really
challenging, and so I steppedaway from training, uh, because
I had to do some healing.
But getting into, so.
The breast implants were one ofthose things that I thought,
(11:10):
well, I can't change this on myown.
I can change, I can grow mybutt, I can, you know, I can get
toned, I can tow my arms,whatever.
I can't change that.
So that will be the missing linkand, and my body will be perfect
once I get them.
And sure enough, that's notexactly what happens.
You get'em and then there'ssomething else you wanna fix.
And the same with That goalweight that a lot of women
(11:32):
struggle with.
You get to the goal weight andthen you're like, well, I mean,
I could do another 10, 20 poundsless.
You know what I mean?
It never stops.
And so much of that is becauseyou're not fixing what's in
here.
You have to really learn to loveyourself and find your value and
your purpose, or you will alwayshave something else physically
that you feel like needs to befixed for you to be to that
(11:53):
perfect place.
And so when it got to the pointof removing them, I had done a
lot of healing as far as my.
body dysmorphia, if you wannacall it that way.
Um, my, like I said, putting myvalue into how I looked and how
I, what my body looked like.
And, um, a lot of the women inthe breast implant illness
community were kind of like,give yourself grace.
(12:15):
When you get'em out, you'regonna look a lot different.
It's gonna, you know, feel a lotdifferent.
But honestly, I was so relievedthat they were out.
I wasn't putting my value in mybody at that point in time.
And so I was like, this isgreat.
I don't care.
I can give better hugs.
I can be closer to people when Ihug'em.
Like, you know, I just tried tolook at different things that
(12:36):
weren't physical when it came tothat.
And, um, yeah, there's a lot ofemotion tied to, to that,
especially for, you know, I, Iknow that men go through it as
well, but, um, a lot of women inthe breast implant, uh, illness
community, Tie a lot of theirvalue to having a certain breast
size, which is crazy, that we'repushed to that point in this
(12:56):
society.
But feeling like that could betaken away from you.
And then what?
And then you lose who you are oryou kind of lose that identity.
That's a lot.
That's hard for people to think.
I have to regain a new identitynow.
Michael Bauman (13:09):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's interesting cuz I mean,it shows up for everybody just
in a different, different arena.
You know, A lot of athletes.
Yeah.
Like when they finish playingsports, they're just like, this
was everything to me, like I wasan athlete and now I'm not.
Or an entrepreneur.
Yeah.
You know, whatever it is, we allhave to get to that point where
we have to, you know, startfeeling enough apart from, you
(13:30):
know, the money, the, the looks,the, you know, whatever it is,
the fame, the recognition.
Yeah.
I'm curious for you in that kindof healing on the mental side of
things.
You know, you said you came intothat action line, a very good
place, a very kind of acceptingplace, but what did that look
like on the mental side ofthings for you?
The healing?
Dr. Stacy Baker (13:50):
It was a lot, it was a lot of, um, for me it
was a lot.
I removed myself from socialmedia completely, uh, because it
was a constant reminder that youdon't look this way or you, you
know what I mean?
Mm-hmm.
So for me, I had to, Iliterally, like, until I started
really, uh, getting intofunctional medicine, I had no
social media, uh, because Icouldn't do it.
(14:11):
it was just too much.
And so for me, I had to kind ofremove all those things that
were like little, like nags inmy head.
Like, you're not doing enough.
You don't look like this.
Because at that point in time,physically, I, I would be
inflamed.
I got so bad that I, I couldn'tlift weights without being
inflamed or feeling like I hadthe flu for a week later.
So I was really like, I wasforced to stop and slow down
(14:36):
and.
Looking for other ways to behappy and look for other ways
to, uh, you know, other thingsto identify with.
Um, so that brought me to, uh,you know, amazingly that was
part of my journey and my nextstep into, all right, I'm going
back to school.
Um, because my initial degreewas in interior design, my
(14:57):
bachelor's a little bit ago,little, little time ago.
So I was like, So I had this,you know, personal training,
nutrition background.
And so it really pushed me intothis, Hey, you wanna figure all
this stuff out?
Now is your time.
You're stepping away frompersonal training.
Uh, now is your time to justpour yourself into everything
(15:17):
you wanna learn about health andwellness.
And so that's what I did.
Michael Bauman (15:21):
I love that.
And I think that's, I thinkthat's super, super great.
I'm, I'm curious, you know, cuzyou mentioned social media and
now you have a, you know, a bigpresence on social media.
I'm curious, what are some ofthe challenges that you still
kind of face around that?
Because especially, I mean,Instagram that is catered to
that, right?
Like if you're in the health andfitness arena, it's like
everybody doesn't have theirshirts on and they're by a beach
(15:43):
and, you know, whatever.
Right?
Like, and if you're not doingthat, you're like, you know
what's going on or you feel likeyou need to do that to, to get
there.
Um, I'm curious for you, likehow do you, how do you navigate
still showing up authentically?
Or even if you have certainthings that you.
you know, trigger that you'relike, oh, I'm getting off track
here.
In terms of what I'm doing, I,I'm curious what that looks like
for you.
Dr. Stacy Baker (16:03):
Ah, yeah.
Such a good question.
When I decided, okay, I have toget on back on social media
because this is how I'm going toreach more people, there's, it's
a love-hate relationship, right?
I hate that it's a time suck.
I hate that it literally drainspeople of their consciousness.
Um, but I've met some amazingpeople like you and connected
(16:24):
with a lot of amazing peoplebecause I'm on there.
It is a, it is a gateway foropportunity for me to have new
experiences and make newconnections with people.
So I focus on that aspect of it.
It looks like I'm on there alot.
I literally.
Maybe spend 10 or 15 minutes onthere a day, and I'm off.
I don't scroll.
Mm-hmm.
I don't, you know, I don'twaste.
(16:45):
It's not, it's not a time suckfor me.
I can't do it.
Um.
Mm-hmm.
The one thing that I love about,and I've had such tremendous
growth on Instagram, and I'm sothankful and so appreciative,
but it means so much to mebecause it's not because I'm put
putting pictures of myself up.
You see my posts are all text.
It's everything that, you know,every once in a while you'll see
a picture.
(17:06):
Um, but it's not.
my value isn't what I look like.
And for one of the first timesin my life since I've been on
social media, I am finallyrealizing like people value me
for other things.
Like, how amazing is that?
Um, yes, that's amazing.
If I was posting sexy like beachpicks, maybe I'd get some more
(17:27):
likes, but but I don't have togo there, right?
And so that, like, that is whatwarms my heart.
And that's a way that I feelgood about being on social media
because I'm like, no, thesepeople aren't like, Oh, you
know, I'm, I'm not sellingclothes and I'm not selling
beauty products and I'm not, youknow, selling myself in what I
look like.
People are really valuing me forhow I think about things, and
(17:49):
that is just so heartwarming tome.
Michael Bauman (17:51):
That's huge.
That's huge.
Yeah.
Like where you've created it tobe, showing your authentic self
and your authentic self isbringing so much of that value.
You're like, you're coming herebecause this is giving value to
you um, and it changed my lifeand hopefully it can change
yours, which is amazing.
Dr. Stacy Baker (18:07):
and I don't post.
Um, you know, I, a lot of peopledon't know that I, I have kids,
I don't post a lot about my kidsbecause I don't want that to be
their normal and they are notold enough to make that decision
to be on my social media, youknow what I mean?
And I don't want them to be onsocial media.
So, so it's one of those thingspeople are like, oh, you have
kids?
It's like, Yeah, but I'm notgonna be posting their pictures
(18:29):
all the time because I'm veryprotective of that.
So if I ever do, it's like theback of their heads or something
where it's not recognizable orwhatever.
Michael Bauman (18:35):
Yeah, that's a, that's a really interesting
aspect to navigate as well,because you're, you're right.
Like, you know, same kind ofthing.
I have these lovely, beautifulkids and I just Yeah, like,
don't wanna post them.
And they could, they could havewonderful.
Pictures, but I'm like, eh,don't.
Dr. Stacy Baker (18:51):
I know, right?
It's like, no, I don't wanna gothere.
Michael Bauman (18:54):
Yeah.
So let's circle back around.
I mean, one, I really appreciateyou sharing around kind of the
mental aspect and, and goingthrough that, I, I think it's
super valuable.
So I really appreciate that.
And I wanted to circle backaround to some of the functional
medicine, to some of the, thenutrition and things like that.
And the, the one thing I wantedto kind of talk about,
Especially in your life, so youhave these compounding issues.
(19:17):
You know, it's like, like yousaid, every year you're
diagnosed with something elseand it can start to feel like
you're just like, I am, I'mbroken.
Like I just, like every yearthere's something else that's
broken about me and nobodyknows, or even validates
sometimes like what you'refeeling.
Like I feel this, and they'relike, yeah, it's nothing, right?
Mm-hmm.
So can you talk about that andfor you, once you start to kind
(19:40):
of unpack the things and you getto that root cause, how does
that feel to go?
Oh, like, I'm not broken.
There's these things that arecontributing to it, and I have
this plan to actually get outout of here.
Dr. Stacy Baker (19:51):
Yes.
Yeah, for sure.
Um, that's, that's one thingthat I was so intrigued and I
will say I, I discoveredfunctional medicine through the
breast implant and illnesscommunity.
So like, it's one of thosethings that like, Everything
happens for a reason.
And if you don't catch thosesynchronicities, like you don't
understand your power, you know?
I did discover functionalmedicine and so after my ex
(20:12):
plan, I mentioned that I, Iwasn't better, like I felt a
little better, but I, I wasn't,like, I had a lot more work to
do and so I, I worked with afunctional medicine practitioner
myself.
Um, I was in school at the time,but naturopathy is not
functional medicine.
It's totally different.
You know, na naturopathy,traditional naturopathy is like
(20:34):
getting back to nature.
Fasting, sunlight, all of thatstuff.
Um, functional medicine hasaspects of that, but it is, uh,
there's a lot of lab orientated,uh, you know, things that, that,
that happened.
And so for me, I love runningthe lab work because, Everybody
who's come to me has had tonsand tons and tons of labs that
(20:55):
have ran and just say thatthey're okay and they feel like
crap, you know?
And so for me to validate theirexperience and say, look, this
is why you have anxiety.
You have.
Gut imbalances, your low inmagnesium.
Uh, we probably have to work onparasites, you know what I mean?
Like I can tell them exactlywhy, or you're having, you know,
(21:15):
neurological symptoms becauseyou have x, y, z toxins in your
body that need to be cleared.
For me, I had heavy metals, Ihad mold, um, I had gut
imbalances.
I had lots and lots of work todo, um, to get to the place that
I'm at now.
And so for me, it is the mostvalidating.
I've had so many people justlike cry when we go over their
(21:36):
labs out of like happinessbecause they finally feel like.
I knew I wasn't crazy.
And, and that's if I can tellanybody and like reinforce it.
It, it is just that your body isnot messing up.
Your symptoms are your body'sway of communicating with you.
And the more that you're gas litand told that those aren't real
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things, the more disconnectedyou become with that body mind
connection.
You know, because then you juststart to think there's something
wrong with you, like with yourhead,
Michael Bauman (22:07):
Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
It, it's so huge.
Um, uh, can you talk a littlebit about, so you, you talked
about these labs, and this is areally important feature of it,
right?
Because people get these labswork done, everything comes
back, quote unquote normal.
But can you talk about thenormal range and what that's
based on and.
Basically what is more of likean optimal health kind of range?
Dr. Stacy Baker (22:30):
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, for sure.
Um, so especially in the US I'msure the ranges may be different
there, I'm not sure.
But like in the US think aboutthe, uh, the conventional ranges
are based on a very sickpopulation.
So if you're like, oh, I'm theleast sick out of like a very
sick population, that's stillnot an optimal place to be.
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Um, so functional medicine, evenif I don't like blood work, I
don't, blood work is, your bloodis amazing.
It's homeostatic.
It is not gonna show much inyour bloodstream because it's
recirculating all the time.
And that is what's gonna staythe most homeostatic in your.
So that's why I use differentmetabolites like urine and hair,
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um, to look for longer trends oftime and longer patterns of, um,
imbalances.
So even if you looked at bloodwork through a functional range,
it would be way more narrow.
Um, and you would see signs ofdysfunction looking at blood
work, um, if you actually lookedat the optimal range versus the,
let's look at the sickpopulation range.
Michael Bauman (23:35):
Yes, absolutely.
Talk, talk to us about, youknow, cuz you keep talking about
the, the relationship of the gutand then actually mood.
Can you talk about, you know,nur neurotransmitters, how like
Yeah.
So many of them are produced inthe gut and you get into that
and how that affects us, uh,mental health.
Dr. Stacy Baker (23:52):
Yeah, so most of our, uh, most of our
neurotransmitters, so serotonin,dopamine, um, those are produced
in the gut.
So the way I always explain itis if you have inflammation in
the gut, you're gonna haveinflammation in the brain.
You're gonna have neuroinflammation because the gut in
the brain are connected throughthe gut brain axis or the vagus
nerve.
Um, so if there's, let's justsay, um, you know, your body is
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constantly sending signals.
If there's a problem in the gut,it's gonna con, you know, have.
Stress signal that's sent up tothe brain.
So a lot of times, um, and thenyou can even have specific
bacteria overgrowth and thingslike that, that can, um, start
to cause havoc in the pathwaysthat neurotransmitters are
supposed to take.
So a lot of times you'll see onlab work, some of the in
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inhibitors.
Of things like serotonin anddopamine.
And so when you start to look atsome of these ratios, you're
like, yeah, I see exactly whyyou have, um, anxiety or a d d
behavior or things like that.
Because your dopamine isbuilding up, your body cannot
release it.
So it's really cool to be ableto validate, um, you know, and
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if you don't, if I, I'm lookingat it at their gut and I'm not
seeing the connection there,then it's generally a, um, a
deficiency.
So then we look at minerals anda lot of times it's a magnesium
deficiency.
And then there's even the, likeI said, the para, uh, the
parasite component to it.
Parasites definitely, uh, play arole in how our
neurotransmitters are alteredand things like that.
So a lot of times we're gonnahave to run through parasites as
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well.
If there's any sort of, uh,neurotransmitter I.
Michael Bauman (25:22):
Yeah.
And, and magnesium.
I wanna talk about magnesium fora little bit because it's a,
it's a lovely one, uh, that mostpeople are deficient in.
Can you talk about magnesium'srole in the body and what people
can do to, you know, just makesure they're getting enough of
it.
Dr. Stacy Baker (25:36):
Yeah.
So magnesium's important forlike over 600 enzymatic.
You know, processes in the body.
So, uh, those, the biggest onesbeing liver detoxification and,
uh, mitochondrial function.
So, um, and you gotta think too,magnesium is our calm mineral.
So when we're chronicallystressed, which.
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That's how our environment isthese days.
We're chronically stressed.
That's gonna be the first thingwe burn through.
And so you only have a certainreserve, right?
And so once that's gone, thenyour body's gonna start to
become catabolic, uh, becauseit's gonna find its magnesium in
other ways.
So making sure that you, I wouldsay literally everyone I have
test.
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Needs magnesium across theboard.
Mm-hmm.
Um, and, and you gotta thinktoo, our soil, our produce, all
of these things are more andmore deficient.
We have less and less, um, youknow, minerals in our soil.
And so that too is alreadyleading to this underlying
deficiency of, of things likemagnesium.
calcium, sodium, potassium aremain electrolytes.
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Um, and then you have people whoare chugging plain water, um,
because they're, you know,influenced by the fitness
professionals.
And yes, you need to behydrated, but you gotta make
sure you're replacing thoseminerals or you're just flushing
even more of the good stuff thatyou already have that is already
deficient in the body.
So lots of factors come intoplay.
Uh, magnesium is definitely oneof those things that I could
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universally say everybody.
Michael Bauman (27:04):
Yeah.
Would that be in supplement formor through, you know, yeah,
definitely.
Green leafy vegetables or allthe above.
Dr. Stacy Baker (27:10):
I mean, I, I would love for it to be, um,
just through food, but like Isaid, even in food, uh, the
content of magnesium is less andless because our soil is so
depleted.
So magnesium, yes.
Um, a complex is gonna be thebest for everybody because each
strain of magnesium, there'seight of'em.
Each one does somethingdifferent.
So some of them are gonna helpwith bowel movements.
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Some's gonna help with at t vproduction.
Um, some's gonna help withsleep.
So if you just get on a complexthat's just kind of like
universal, uh, you can supportall of those areas without just
like guessing which one youneed.
Michael Bauman (27:45):
Fantastic Yeah.
So let's talk about the bigelephant in the room in
everybody's life right now isthe, is the stress.
Um, can you talk about juststress, talk about cortisol,
talk about inflammation, all thefun things?
Dr. Stacy Baker (27:59):
Yes.
I just did an adrenal likeburnout summit, so it's very,
uh, you know, it's somethingthat I deal with every day,
especially for a lot of womenwho are like, why can't I lose
weight?
It's like, um, you live offcoffee.
you skip breakfast, you don'tsleep.
You're high stress at your work.
You are.
You are raising children, likeeverything is contributing to
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high cortisol levels no matterwhat you eat.
If those cortisol levels arestill high, then your body will
not let you lose weight becausewhen your cortisol's high, your
blood sugar's gonna be high.
And vice versa, like if yourblood sugar drops too low, which
is something I see often withwomen because they, um, don't
eat enough protein and theirblood sugar's erratic.
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And a lot of that's just, itsdropping too low cuz they're
skipping meals and things likethat.
So, um, that is contributing sohighly to inflammation and I, I
often sit there and think likeif people ate the amount of
protein their bodies needs, ifthey balance their blood sugar
throughout the day, I reallywonder how much chronic
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inflammation would just go away.
Mm-hmm.
because foundationally, thosethings have to happen first.
you could take every supplementin the world to like lower
inflammation, but if you areconstantly, uh, living with
erratic blood sugar and you are,you know, high cortisol, you
can't manage your stress, you'renot taking time daily, you're
not getting sunshine, you're nottaking that time for mindfulness
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or whatever you need to set andreground, no supplement can fix
that.
It's all lifestyle
Michael Bauman (29:31):
at that.
Yeah, absolutely.
And it's really important cuz alot of times we want, we want
the supplement to fix all of ourproblems and we, because
lifestyle stuff is hard, right?
Yeah.
They're like, change that stuff.
What's the pi?
But you need to change thatstuff.
and then a supplement, it'scalled a supplement for a
reason.
right.
The supplement's what you'redoing or should be doing.
Right.
Exactly.
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No, this.
Super, super important.
Right.
Super, super important.
I'm curious, um, cuz you're,you're talking about skipping
meals and things like that.
I'm curious your thoughts aroundintermittent fasting mm-hmm.
and how that is, is it differentor do you still have, you know,
cortisol, you know, responsesand stuff to that?
What does that look like?
Dr. Stacy Baker (30:10):
Most people who come to me are not ready for
intermittent fasting.
And I, um, I mean it's just,it's that I just have to put it
out there.
They're not in a healthy bodythat has a good metabolism,
that's done the liver support.
You are stabilizing blood sugar.
You can go without skipping ameal and without being hangry or
having that blood sugar drop,you can play with some
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intermittent fasting, skipping,and the way I look at
intermittent fasting, it is morebeneficial to the body when it
comes to stress hormones to skipdinner.
than it is to skip breakfast.
The reason why is because wehave a cortisol rhythm and your
cortisol's higher, um, in themorning than it is at night.
And so if you are skippingbreakfast and your blood sugar's
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dropping and you already havehigh cortisol, then your body's
already gonna be in thatinflammatory state.
However, Dinner, that's when ourcortisol starts to taper off.
And so if you wanna extend thatfasting window, it's way more
beneficial for hormones, formetabolism, for all of those
things to skip dinner than itwould be to skip breakfast or
lunch.
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So it, when you ease or get intothe point where you can start
playing with intermittentfasting, that's the window I
always, uh, recommend starting.
Michael Bauman (31:25):
that's fascinating because you, you're
right, and most people don'trealize it, it is a stressor as
well.
Like your body is justfundamentally, like, I'm trying
to survive and all of a sudden Idon't have food.
So it's stressed, right?
Like it's going like, and likewhat you're talking about, if
you have a ton of cortisol and aton of inflammation already, um,
it's just an additionalstressor.
That's, yeah.
That's really fascinating.
I'm curious for you, what doesyour one kind of like self-care
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routine look like, um mm-hmm.
for yourself.
And then I'm curious as far aslike nutrition and exercise, you
know, what that looks like foryou.
Dr. Stacy Baker (31:57):
Yeah.
So finally I'm in a place whereI can work out again.
Um, you know, like I said, whenI was struggling, yes.
It was really hard when I, thatwas like, not only was it my
identity, but that's how I like,got the endorphins going and you
know, I love working out and Ilove, um, I love sharing that,
like in with people in to seewhen they start incorporating
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how different their lifechanges.
Um, so for me, I get up at four30 in the morning.
Um, I work out, I wait train foryou.
Well, the way, the way I look atit is like if I can do all this
when my family's asleep, youknow, and I can get a jumpstart
to the day I go to bed early.
So, um, I can get my well done.
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Well, your kids are still young.
When they, when they get alittle bit older, you
Michael Bauman (32:46):
like, yeah, they're my wake up alarm for
like five 30.
Hey dad.
I'm like, well, that goes myworkout.
That's not gonna happen.
.Exactly.
Dr. Stacy Baker (32:53):
Talk about high cortisol.
Yeah.
Uh, getting waken by childrenall day.
That's high cortisol.
Um, but yeah, so I, I, I.
Weight train.
I get some movement in.
Um, I do yoga a few times aweek.
I, um, I definitely, I make thetime to meditate every single
morning, um, in the saunausually.
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And so I'm sweating, making sureI'm moving things out.
Um, you know, I incorporatethings like dry brushing, castor
oil packs as often as I thinkabout probably I should do more,
but but I
Michael Bauman (33:25):
definitely, can you explain
Dr. Stacy Baker (33:26):
I
Michael Bauman (33:26):
definitely, can you explain those for people?
Dr. Stacy Baker (33:28):
Yeah, so dry brushing, think of it as moving
your lymphatic system.
So when you're, um, you know,Our lymph doesn't have a pump
like our heart does.
But it's very important because,uh, that's where a lot of our
toxins and our, you know, cellsthat have been died and that
need to move out and things likethat, that's where they're
located.
So moving your lymph is soimportant.
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Um, so whether that's drybrushing or rebounding or um,
lymphatic massage, whatever thatlooks like for me, I find it
most beneficial to do thatbefore a sauna because then you
sweat, you're utilizing thatskin pathway, you've already
moved your lymph, so you'removing those toxins out a little
bit quicker.
Um, and then the caster oilpacks.
Um, Are used to support liverinflammation.
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So, uh, and just an extra liversupport you can do to help
increase glutathione and thingslike that.
You sleep with some castor oilon your liver, that can
definitely be supportive.
Um, coffee enemas every now andthen can be really supportive
too.
But that's a little moreadvanced for some people.
For me, making sure I havemovement, making sure I have
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sunshine, making sure I'mfueling my body, um, correctly.
And for me that means eatingsignificant amounts of protein
throughout the day.
It is what's.
Stabilizes my blood sugar.
It's what helps with my musclegrowth and repair.
You need complete amino acidprofile to be able to not just
build muscle.
It's not about just being sw,right?
It's about building every littlething in our body.
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Our cells, ourneurotransmitters, our hormones.
All of those things need aminoacids.
Um, so when people come to meand they're like, you know, I'm
doing everything right, but, youknow, I'm, I'm not getting
better and I'm not, I'm not ableto build muscle.
And I'm like, well, how muchprotein are you eating?
You know, and they, they don'teven, you know, they pay track
or they're having like less than50 grams of protein a day.
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There's no adult that shouldhave less than a hundred grams
of protein a day.
That's one reason why we havethis epidemic of blood sugar
dysregulation and, you know,insulin resistance and things
like that.
Because for one, people aren'tweight training and for two,
they're not consuming enoughamino.
Mm-hmm.
Michael Bauman (35:31):
Yeah.
That's, that's really important.
What is, what does nutritionlook like for you on a daily?
Dr. Stacy Baker (35:37):
Yeah.
So I, I start my day off with agood, like 30 grams of protein a
day.
Um, usually I usually, um, workout fasted and it's not for any
sort of like fat loss purpose.
I just don't feel good with afull stomach for the most part.
Like, I don't work out well.
Um, so if I have energy, I willgo ahead and work out fasted.
If, if I'm feeling a littlesluggish sometimes I'll have
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something before.
Um, but I usually start my daywith just like some good, like a
collagen peptide.
uh, you know, protein, you know,smoothie or something like that.
Sometimes I'll mix in someblueberries, some antioxidant
fruits, something like that,just like low glycemic, um, to
start my day.
Lunch is when your digestion isthe strongest, so that's when I
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have like a big salad.
I'll have a big loaded withveggies, loaded with all that
good stuff.
Protein, of course.
Avocado, I have avocado everysingle day.
Um, making sure I give thosehealthy fats in.
So I really, really, um, do wellwith that.
I don't find that I snack thatmuch anymore.
Um, and I really feel like whenyou have.
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the amount of protein and fatthat your body needs, you really
don't snack.
If I do, I, you know, I'll justgrab, you know, some walnuts or
you know, some carrot chips andguacamole or something like
that.
Something, you know, healthy andsubstantial that has good fats
in it.
And then, um, dinner, you know,we're usually home at that
point, so dinner, we usuallyhave some sort of protein,
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whether it's, you know, chickenor I'm making, um, Chili, B
chili or something like that,whatever it is.
Um, we usually get in a fewroasted veggies and some
protein, and that's just, youknow, that's how, how hard the
day goes.
So making sure e each meal has agood amount of protein in it,
healthy fats for that, you know,substantial type meal.
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And just making sure that, beingcognizant that I'm not having
carbs alone and I'm not spikingmy blood sugar throughout the
day with, you know, giving mybody kind of time to digest and
metabolize the food that I eatby kind of waiting in between
meals to eat.
Michael Bauman (37:38):
Yeah.
No, that's, that's super, supergreat.
What, what does, um, do you doany prepping for that?
Or is this just kind of, youknow, you make it day off.
Dr. Stacy Baker (37:47):
Don't Uh, you should see my work.
Like when I bring my bag towork, I'll have like, like the
stuff to make a salad, but it'sall just like thrown in a tote.
I, I'm not the best
Michael Bauman (37:59):
lettuce outta the bottom of your,
Dr. Stacy Baker (38:04):
you're like boiled eggs loose in the, in the
tote.
The other day I was like, wow,this is dumb.
I should I should, I always tellpeople like, you know, failing
to prepare is preparing to fail,right?
But I, I know I can always throwit together.
If that's not you, thendefinitely prepare Um, but.
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Uh, yeah, I always make sure Ihave things on hand, but as far
as meal prepping, I don't likemeal prepping because, um, meal
prep, you know, the more I, the,I feel like when you reheat
food, it loses life the more youreheat and, you know, cook and
put things in the every
Michael Bauman (38:41):
time you just reheated chicken breasts, they
don't do it for you.
No No.They do not do it for me.
Dr. Stacy Baker (38:49):
No, I am, yeah, I'm just, I'm kind of a food
stop.
I don't, I don't love making allyour food like the week before.
I'm just kind of like, and two,I like to eat intuitively,
right?
Like some days I don't want thatchicken and rice and broccoli
from like three days ago.
That's kind of gross, right?
Michael Bauman (39:06):
Yes, yes.
There are definitely benefits toboth, but I think you're right.
You have to find.
You just have to find whatworks.
You know, so many times we justtry to put ourselves into some,
like expert said, you know, dothis or whatever, and it just
like doesn't work with yourlife.
It doesn't resonate.
So you just gotta figure outlike, what does it work well?
what does it work well?
What works with my life rightnow,
Dr. Stacy Baker (39:25):
Yeah, obviously, like from how I just
described my salad, you don'twanna follow me
Michael Bauman (39:30):
Right.
I also don't want those eggsthat are in the bottom of your
bank.
So, you know, reheated chicken,you know, little, little hard
eggs.
Yeah.
But you do you though, right?
Dr. Stacy Baker (39:44):
Yeah.
Michael Bauman (39:48):
What, uh, what does, what does supplements look
like for you?
Dr. Stacy Baker (39:52):
Kind of changes based on what, what I'm working.
So I, I just actually got doneworking through some Lyme and
co-infections personally.
I'm done clearing my system fora while.
I've been detoxing for such along time that I'm kind of in
more of a restorative place.
Um, so like I said, the, the,um, amino acids, collagen
peptides I take daily.
I take a probiotic dailymagnesium, B vitamins, um, and
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then I take binders, um, that Ikind of rotate binders.
Are you familiar?
Binders and explain it.
Explain what binders are.
Yeah, sure.
So binders are basically, eventhough I've detoxed, you know,
it's, it's a, it's a practice,right?
You don't just stop.
You're still exposed to lots ofthings.
It's in our
Michael Bauman (40:36):
Oh, you can't just eat hamburgers and french
fries like I detox, man.
Dr. Stacy Baker (40:40):
I'm good.
I I'm good.
I I did, I did a seven weekcleanse.
I'm good.
Michael Bauman (40:45):
I conquered inflammation.
That is in the past.
Dr. Stacy Baker (40:48):
Yeah.
No, so a good binder will forma, a bond with the toxins to
help your body remove itproperly, whether that's through
your sweat or through your colonor whatever it, it's gonna
target.
And so I, I use ones that targetspecific things based on
whatever I am, you know, like ifI'm, get my hair done, I'm gonna
have one that's gonna be, youknow, tailored to chemicals and
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environmental toxins.
Mm-hmm.
and things like that.
So, um, if I'm traveling,definitely I'm gonna use one.
Uh, that's gonna be, uh, moreattuned to glyphosate and things
like that because I can'tcontrol my food as much as I do
at home.
So I definitely use thosebinders before and after sauna
just to make sure I'm staying upwith my toxin load and I'm not
gonna get behind and crash likeI did, you know, so many years
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ago.
Michael Bauman (41:34):
Interesting.
What are, what are the ones thatyou use for hair and what's the,
what are the ones that you kindof do for, uh, travel?
Dr. Stacy Baker (41:42):
So I, I'm a huge, uh, believer in cell core
binders.
It's a, it's a company.
I'm not sure if they're there,but, uh, definitely big in the
US Uh, it's definitelysomething, yeah, it's, they're,
you have to order'em through apractitioner because they are
like heavy duty stuff.
Um, so they have ones that aretailored towards biotoxins,
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which like, when we're workingon the gut, that's what we're
gonna using.
They have ones that are tailoredtowards radiation and viruses
and chemicals.
So that's the one I usually usewhen I'm traveling.
And then they have one that's,uh, made for heavy metals and
environmental toxins.
So between those, I just kind ofrotate'em out cuz I know I'm
exposed, all that stuff, youknow, just living life.
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So I try to kind of, I'm kind ofa person that I like to do.
A lot of things in one, youknow, so if I can bind sweat,
meditate, all those things inlike one little setting, I'm
gonna do that.
Michael Bauman (42:36):
nice at four 30 in the morning.
Yeah, Good work.
Good work.
So what about all the peoplethat, uh, don't wake up at four
30 in the morning?
So I, I'm curious for you, like,where, where would you say
people can start.
Like what is, what is a goodstarting point?
You know, like obviously soindividual to, you know, the
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person to the circumstance, butif you were to kind of give some
general recommendations Yeah.
What would those
Dr. Stacy Baker (43:04):
be?
You know, it's, it's crazy.
Uh, we live in a world where Ihave to prescribe 10 minutes.
of mindfulness to people and 10minutes of like, uh, getting 20
minutes of sunshine a day.
Those are things I have toprescribe.
But I will say, so somethingthat I feel like everyone can
try and start, um, you know, ifyou work, you don't work for
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yourself and you work in anoffice, have lunch, some either
outside.
So you can get your sunshineand, you know, have that time to
rest and digest.
So you're, you're gettingmultiple things at once.
Um, and then possibly go on awalk afterwards to help with
those blood sugar management.
Get a little extra movement in.
So make sure you leave youroffice and like, don't eat
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lunch, like where you work.
That's like one thing I think alot of people can start to think
about and incorporate.
Um, if that, just find a time inthe day.
If you know that you can go on awalk, be outside.
We have such an epidemic ofpeople struggling with insomnia
and things like that, and a lotof that's because people aren't
getting sunshine and they're notgetting the photo receptor
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turning on their melatonin.
So finding a way if that'ssitting outside in the morning
and having, you know, Yourbreakfast outside and getting
that sunshine and sunlight andmaybe some grounding.
If you can just find little waysthat you can start to
incorporate a tiny bit of natureinto your life and it will make
such a dramatic difference.
(44:28):
Just having that time in themoment, um, where you're kind
of, like I said, you're justkind of soaking in things that
are around you and just kind ofpouring into yourself, even if
it's just 10 minutes a day.
Michael Bauman (44:40):
I love that.
I love that advice.
You don't have to, you know,overall haul everything, but,
you know, yeah, that's a,definitely a big bang for your
buck type of thing.
Mm-hmm.
So I think that's super great.
What about, um, what aboutsleep?
Like what, what, let's talkabout sleep and what are your
recommendations around that?
Dr. Stacy Baker (44:56):
Yeah, I'm a huge protector of my sleep, as
you know.
Super.
My kids were young too, at onetime, and that's why everybody's
like, do you want another baby?
I'm like, Nope.
I like sleeping.
Michael Bauman (45:08):
I'm.
Yes.
I like
Dr. Stacy Baker (45:10):
sleeping.
Yes.
Yeah.
Um, so I've had my sleep takenaway from me many a night.
Um, but I will say, so, um, likeI said, there's that kind of,
that epidemic of insomnia.
Uh, a lot of it's a lack ofsunshine.
A lot of it's, uh, blue lightexposure, um, wifi, running
through your house all night,you know.
So for me, um, making sure thatyou're not having your screens
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on.
Um, you know, throughout the,uh, as soon I guess from sunset
on, making sure you at leasthave a blue light filter on your
screen is gonna be supersupportive because that blue
light shuts off your melatoninlike that.
So as much as you can protectthat, and even throughout the
day, making sure, like, I have awarm filter on my devices all
day long, and you can reallytell the difference that makes
(45:53):
in your ice strain, your nervoussystem, things like that.
So being really protective ofthat.
uh, making sure your room ispitch dark, you know, so your
melatonin can really kind ofturn on, make sure it's nice and
cool.
I like it like 66 degrees.
Cool.
Like, that's kind of like anideal temp.
Um, and, um, like I said, justkind of making sure you get your
(46:14):
wifi on a timer.
Shut it off at night whileyou're sleep.
You don't, you don't need itgoing through your house.
I mean, I have a homeharmonizer, but I, I know
everybody's not, you know, therejust shut your wifi off you
know, and I start there beforeyou invest in all these other
things.
Um, so yeah, things like that.
Magnesium can be a hugeproponent, you know, some people
(46:36):
do really well, taking a littlebit of mag their magnesium at
night, um, to support that deep,restful sleep.
But that's when we repair andrestore.
And so if you're not gettinginto that deep restful.
then you're kind of alreadywaking up with that stress.
Right.
And the stress hormones, like wetalked about, um, your body
can't rebuild.
(46:56):
And so even if you're pushingyourself in the gym, if you're
not getting good restful sleep,the magic is in the rest.
Your muscles repair and rebuildin the, in the rest part, not
where you're, you know, doingyour bicep curls.
Michael Bauman (47:08):
Yeah, yeah.
People don't realize.
Dr. Stacy Baker (47:10):
Yeah, for sure.
Take a rest
Michael Bauman (47:12):
day.
You break it down when you'reworking out and you get stronger
when you sleep
Dr. Stacy Baker (47:17):
Yes.
Yes.
You gotta have both.
Yeah.
Michael Bauman (47:20):
Yeah, super important.
I had the, um, founder of exos,uh, and the N F l performance
Director on, and his firstfacility basically plastered up
on the wall work plus restequals success.
Yes.
And it's so important,especially in that peak
performance kind of mindset.
We're just like, work equalssuccess right.
We just take out that, thatrest, but it's actually like so
(47:42):
important in every areacognitively.
So, gosh, mental health, oh mygosh.
Physically, whatever.
You can name it.
Yeah.
so I want to ask, you know, I'mcurious, and I usually ask this
question kind of as we, as wewrap up.
So for you, I'm curious, howwould you go about defining
success?
And then I'm also curious foryou, how you define success in
terms of your wellness, um, as aparent, you know, what does that
(48:04):
look like for you?
Dr. Stacy Baker (48:06):
Yeah, I love this question.
Um, success to me is, livingyour truth and living your
passion.
And I don't mean like I, thatcan sound really cliche and
vague, but I mean like whatmakes the hair on the back of
your neck stand up?
Like the minute you find thatand pour into that, that is
(48:27):
success.
And um, you know, it looks sodifferently for people.
You know, a lot of people thinksuccess is wealth and the money
comes.
if you're pouring into thatpassion, you know what I mean?
And it's not all about that.
It, you know, wealth can bewisdom and knowledge.
You know what I mean?
It's so much more than justmoney.
(48:47):
And so finding that drive andthat purpose and pouring
everything you have into that islike what I define success as
for sure.
And just like I said, beingreally true to your, um, your
inner being and your truenature.
And it's different foreverybody, right?
We all have our own gifts andour own things that we are meant
to bring into this world.
(49:07):
So really finding that andpouring into that, I think is,
um, what I would label asultimate success.
Now, when it comes to your body,I think, um, being intuitive,
listening, learning your body'ssignal.
It speaks in a language ofsymptoms.
Uh, you know, whether that'sfatigue or, you know, burnout
(49:29):
for some people, or anxiety orwhatever it is, your body's
communicating with you and don'tever let anybody take that away
from you and tell you it's notreal.
because your body is thesmartest machine we to, you
know, that we will ever, everknow, and it knows so much more
than we do.
So definitely don't ever lose.
So being intuitive with yourbody, being intuitive with your
(49:49):
mind and your nervous system,and know when it's time, like we
said, to take a break and totake that time to pour into
yourself, let yourself rest andrecover mentally, physically,
emotionally, all of that is soimportant.
And then as a parent, so youknow, we have this.
Environment where, uh, you know,we are our, it feels like our
(50:12):
world is always just set todivide and, um, you know, and
label and judge.
And I think as a parent, I, youknow, I.
I always tell my husband, like,we change the world by treating
our kids to allow people to bewho they are, to love them
unconditionally.
And you know, that's how wechange the world.
(50:32):
And so for me as a parent, if Ican teach my kids to always love
and, um, respect and haveempathy for everybody in every
situation, that's what I defineas parenting success.
Love that.
Michael Bauman (50:46):
I love all those things.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Yeah, I think those are allreally, really important.
So yeah, being authentic,living, you know, finding that
passion, finding what you know,makes your hair stand up and
going for it, I think is justamazing.
Yeah.
And like you said, with a, witha body, like actually valuing it
and listening to it and learningto pay attention.
(51:06):
And then parenting.
Yes.
you know, teaching them to beempathetic and to love people
and not be divisive.
That would be so great.
if we had more people's, so weneed Yeah.
You know, myself, myselfincluded.
Right.
Something to always, always workon.
So, yeah.
Thank you so much.
This was, this was a lot of fun.
We covered.
You know, a lot of ground, butwe had had fun doing it.
(51:27):
So I, I appreciate your time,
Dr. Stacy Baker (51:30):
Thanks so much for
Michael Bauman (51:31):
Absolutely.
Where, where can Where, wherecan people go to, um, connect
with the incredible stuff thatyou do?
Dr. Stacy Baker (51:37):
Yeah, thank you.
So I pour all of my energy intoInstagram, basically.
So, um, at dr or dr.
Dot, stacy dot nd is where youcan find me.
And then I do have my podcastvibing well with Dr.
Stacy that I, um, have too.
So I talk about my own things onthere too.
Michael Bauman (51:54):
Cool.
And I'll put, I'll put links toall those in the show notes, but
Cool.
Yeah.
Thank you.
It was, it was a fun, it was afun conversation.
I really enjoyed it.
Thank you so much.
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