June 5, 2024 • 48 mins
I believe it is fair to say that we all want to be healthy and happy… And I believe it is also fair to say that we all go about being healthy and happy in our own way. Which is totally valid. Then, isn’t it curious how the health and wellness industries are in such demand? Though we are all different and we all go about our own pursuits in our own way, at the end of the day we still want information, guidance and support in this area that might not be our area of expertise.
Creating health and vitality so we can live long and gorgeous lives, requires we are intentional and invested in implemented healthy habits, routines, and approaches. It is important to have a holistic approach to our health and wellness to ensure we actually are healthy… Focusing on all the pillars involved in our health helps us in this quest:
~ Sleep, exercise, nutrition and supplementation, hydration, stress relief and mindfulness
But there are other factors to consider for our overall wellness, attention to not just our bodies, but mind and spirit as well… And all the other factors outside ourselves that impact us… All worthy of exploration as we pursue becoming our best self, creating our radiant relationship and living our best life.
In today’s episode I’m excited to have a conversation with Marvin Bee, a fellow podcaster about how to go about our own personal health journey. He focuses on removing unhealthy habits and all things not good for us in his approach to health and happiness…
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Marvin Bee is host of the popular "Uncle Marv's Unhealthy Podcast", where he shares his personal journey of overcoming unhealthy habits and lifestyle choices. With over 25 years of experience in the IT industry, Marvin is no stranger to the challenges of balancing work, health, and personal life. Through his own trial and error, Marvin discovered the power of functional nutrition, mindfulness practices, and technology-enabled wellness solutions. He now uses his podcast as a platform to share these insights and inspire others to take a holistic approach to their health, empowering others to break unhealthy habits and achieve lasting well-being. You can find him at Unhealthy Podcast.
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Emma Viglucci (00:07):
Hello, I am so excited to have you here for
another episode.
I have the pleasure of havingMarvin be with us today.
He is going to share somewonderful insights that he has
learned on his own journey ofbecoming more healthy.
Now he's a podcaster himself,so he's going to share the
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insights that he's learned onhis journey from other guests
that he's had on his show.
So today's show is a little bitdifferent and it's going to be
so exciting to hear where histakeaways have been, what he has
learned and how he has appliedall of the lessons to his own
life and how he see others applyit to theirs.
So, without further ado, I'mgoing to bring Marvin on in a
(00:51):
minute.
Stay tuned, you're in for atreat.
Welcome and hello.
I'm so excited to have Marvinwith us.
Let me read you his introbefore we say hello to Marvin.
Marvin B is the host of thepopular Uncle Marv's Unhealthy
(01:12):
Podcast, where he shares hispersonal journey of overcoming
unhealthy habits and lifestylechoices.
With over 25 years ofexperience in the IT industry,
marvin is no stranger to thechallenges of balancing work,
health and personal life.
Through his own trial and error, marvin discovered the power of
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functional medicine,mindfulness practices and
technology-enabled wellnesssolutions.
He now uses his podcast as aplatform to share this insight
and inspire others to take aholistic approach to their
health.
On his podcast, marvin bringson a wide range of expert guests
, from nutritionists and fitnesstrainers to mental health
(01:54):
professionals and sleepspecialists.
His engaging interview styleand deep industry knowledge
allows him to extract practicaltips and strategies that
listeners can immediately applyto their own lives.
His goal is to empowerlisteners to break free from
unhealthy habits and achievelasting well-being.
So, without further ado, I'msaying hello to Marvin.
(02:16):
Hi, marvin, I'm so excited thatyou're here with me today.
Marvin Bee (02:19):
Hello Emma, how are you?
Thank you for having me.
Emma Viglucci (02:22):
I'm doing well and thank you for being here.
I'm so excited that you're here.
We're going to have a funconversation with all the fun
takeaways that you have learnedyourself and will help others do
the same, right.
Marvin Bee (02:35):
That's what we're going to try to do.
Emma Viglucci (02:37):
That's the goal, that's the intention anyway.
So, marvin, it's so interestingthat you started in IT and so
you have a full blown careerbefore you became a podcaster.
So tell us a little bit aboutthat experience and what led to
your wellness journey and thento become a podcaster.
Marvin Bee (02:57):
Well, I'm going to zigzag a little through the
history here, because I haveactually had a podcast for seven
years through the IT business.
So that came first in this newpodcast I started just recently.
And the reason that I startedthat is because I've spent 27
years in IT, but most of thoseyears I was actually active
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working out playing basketball,eating right Well, I shouldn't
say eating right, but I wasactually active working out
playing basketball, eating rightWell, I shouldn't say eating
right, but I was working outenough that I could eat and
still look and feel healthy.
And IT, technically, is one ofthose types of jobs where you're
just kind of sitting around alot, but I have a type of
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business where I would go outand see clients.
So I was always active, alwayswalking, moving computers,
moving clients from one officeto another, so it wasn't that
big a deal.
So a few years ago I quitbasketball and I said you know
what?
I've spent the first 40 plusyears of my life always doing
(04:06):
something, whether it wasfootball, basketball, track,
running, softball.
And I said you know what I'mdone, who am I trying to impress
?
Fine, and then a few years thebelly starts getting a little
(04:27):
bigger, a little bit harder toget up in the morning, a little
sluggish and tired throughoutthe day, and I finally got to
the point where I said you know,I guess I got to start doing
something.
But then the hard part istrying to find out what I could
do that I would enjoy and thatwould work.
Then it was trying to find away to be accountable, because
telling my wife I want to eathealthy just wasn't working,
(04:51):
even though she had spent a lotof years in the weight loss
industry.
What she did for her patientsin the weight loss wasn't
working for me.
Emma Viglucci (05:01):
Oh, how interesting.
Marvin Bee (05:03):
So I said I got to go out and start finding what's
going to work.
So two years ago I actuallytried to reach out to people and
talk to them about what wasworking and what wasn't working,
and I thought, you know what?
I need to make this a podcastso that I could find a way to
force myself to be accountablewith the information that I
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learned.
And a podcast would be a a wayto force myself to be
accountable with the informationthat I learned.
And a podcast would be a goodway to get guests you know,
knowledgeable people, experts tocome on the show and share what
works for them.
So it was kind of a twofoldthing, and so I started that
about eight months ago.
(05:44):
And here we are doing betterNot 100%, but better.
Emma Viglucci (05:49):
I love it, so that's fascinating.
So you had this whole thinggoing on.
You were already podcast or youwere doing your things.
For some reason you just needto continue doing sports.
And you were like I'm good withall this sports, I've tried
them all already, I've enjoyedthem, I'm good.
But then you're like like, waita second, how do I get my
activity?
And if I'm not playing sportsand I'm not moving clients
around or working the same waythat I used to, right makes
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sense.
And I was like, okay, I have tofigure out how to do this
differently so that it works forme.
And let me tell you somethingwe get a little older.
It's not so easy, right?
Marvin Bee (06:20):
because no, it is not yes.
Emma Viglucci (06:23):
So whatever you did, what we did when we were
younger and it worked likeimmediately and I was like, okay
, I had to put a little bit moreeffort for it to do the same
things, right?
Marvin Bee (06:31):
well it's.
It's a lot of different things.
So, you know, I took offbasically about four to five
years before I started gettingserious again about working out,
eating right.
So I would get up in themorning and, you know, start to
do a little run or start to dosome jumping rope and, you know,
every few days something wouldhurt and I'd have to stop.
(06:53):
It was just something like,okay, I've been an athlete all
my life, things shouldn't hurt,but they did.
So obviously I had to make achange and I wanted to find a
way that I could do things thatyou know you see on the YouTube
videos.
You know, do these 10 things.
You know, eat what you want.
(07:14):
And I knew they were wrong.
We got by with eating healthyand not getting.
You know, in my case I'm goingto say fat without having to
work out, and you know CrossFitand do all that stuff.
(07:35):
So something in this world haschanged to where we have to work
harder to look and feel better.
So I wanted to find ways that,okay, how can I reverse that and
go back to what you know?
In the seventies and eighties Ididn't have to work this hard.
Now some of it's my age, but Ithink a lot of it is the things
(07:55):
that we do in life now with ourfood and our exercise and our
lifestyle and our environment.
Emma Viglucci (08:03):
Yeah, yeah, I'm hearing the knowledge that
you've gotten, that you'velearned recently, beginning to
come through.
I love it.
So why don't we jump in withthe first thing that you've kind
of learned or able to take awayfrom the experts that you
started working with, or ratherinterviewing and learning from?
(08:26):
So I'm seeing that one of thethings was you could look great
and feel great, but maybe you'restill not healthy, maybe
there's still something wrong.
Marvin Bee (08:36):
Right.
Emma Viglucci (08:36):
So that's very, very interesting concept,
because usually if we look greatand feel great again, we don't
like what's there to worry about.
Then Right, like, how do youknow that something's not right?
Marvin Bee (08:47):
Yeah, that was one thing.
Now I took it from the otherperspective because I named the
show unhealthy for a reason.
Emma Viglucci (08:54):
Right.
Marvin Bee (08:55):
Because we all hear about the things that we can do
from the healthy standpoint, butwhat about the things that
we're doing unhealthy, that areeither canceling out, or about
the things that we're doingunhealthy that are either
canceling out or battling thethings that we're doing healthy?
Emma Viglucci (09:09):
Yes.
Marvin Bee (09:09):
And one of the first things I realized that it's not
really about how you look andhow you feel, because there are
many people that we can see outevery day that look great, they
look fantastic and yet they'reunhealthy.
Emma Viglucci (09:27):
Right, what are they doing to look that way?
It's not very healthy.
Marvin Bee (09:29):
Right, right.
So either that or they're still, you know, running up and
getting sick, you know, on aconstant basis and things.
So I'm like, okay, it's, it'sgotta be more than just how we
look and feel.
There's gotta be some otherstuff.
So that was the first thing Istarted learning, when I was
talking to everybody where theywould talk about the same things
as me.
They were doing all the thingsthat they thought they were
(09:52):
supposed to be doing and forsome reason it either wasn't
working or they would do all ofthat stuff.
They would lose the weight,they would lose the inches, but
still be miserable.
Emma Viglucci (10:06):
Okay so.
Marvin Bee (10:06):
I'm like, okay, there's something we got to pay
attention to.
Emma Viglucci (10:10):
Right, Right.
Well, so with that piece ofinformation or awareness, did
you come across some otherthings that what the unhealthy
things are that people shouldnot be doing?
Marvin Bee (10:24):
Well, yeah, I'm getting a bunch of those, and
what's funny is they're reallyall the things that we've been
hearing for the past severalyears.
They're all about, you know,get good sleep.
They're all about change yourdiet, but not in the standpoint
of, you know, dieting as we knowit.
You know, diet should be justour regular food that we eat on
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a daily basis.
And getting away from everybodyknows to get away from sugar.
Everybody knows that you shouldeat less calories.
But it goes deeper than that.
It goes into what is it thatyou're actually eating?
What's going into the food thatwe're eating?
There's so many things that areconsidered healthy or low fat
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that they're really not.
They may, you know, they maynot have all the calories here,
but they've got all thesechemicals and ingredients that
are still leading to ourunhealthiness, whether it's, you
know I don't want to say toomany things you know outright
naming them, but you know thehigh fructose corn syrup, all
(11:33):
the chemicals that if you lookat a food label, why is this
acid in my food?
So that's a part of it too,where we've kind of conditioned
our bodies to accept theseunhealthy things and then, when
we try to be healthy, our body'sgot to get rid of all that crap
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you know what's reallyinteresting.
Emma Viglucci (11:59):
So one of the things that I've learned
recently I'm also a wellnessjunkie, right, so of course my
profession is mental health.
I specialize also a wellnessjunkie, right, so of course my
profession is mental health.
I specialize in working withcouples, couples therapy and all
of that, but this is my cup oftea on the side, right, like
learning all of the wellnessthings.
And so one of the things that Ilearned recently was that oils
are actually worse than sugarfor your body, because the sugar
(12:23):
you potentially could get ridof, you could release from your
body.
The oils actually stick to youand it takes I forget what the
number of years was like yearsand years and years for whatever
oil you took in like bad oil,for it to release or get out of
your body, for you to detox fromthat oil.
So all of it.
(12:43):
Like when you go through adrive-thru and you get French
fries, it's not just thepotatoes, it's like the fried,
but why?
Because it's fried in thatnasty oil.
So there's a bunch of oils andI'm not gonna you know, this is
not the type of podcast, rightbut so a bunch of different oils
that, for those of you who areinterested.
Who are listening?
Do the research.
There's a bunch of oils thatwhen you eat those, it's
(13:05):
impossible to get them out ofyour body and that's really,
really, really toxic.
That's like the worst thingthat you could eat, even worse
than sugar, and sugar is thedevil.
So very interesting, yeah.
So go right ahead, yeah.
Marvin Bee (13:19):
Yeah.
So, like you said, learningthose things are what's really
going to help us.
However, the second point thatI think I put down there is that
the journey is different foreveryone.
You know our bodies.
Yes, we're all kind of builtthe same.
We have the same organs, but,because of how we've lived, the
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things that work for some maynot work for all.
I learned this after one of myfriends gave me a whole bunch of
keto stuff when I firstannounced that, yeah, I like to
lose a few pounds off the bellyhere.
And she said, ok, well, here'sa whole bunch of keto stuff.
And I tried it and it did.
(14:04):
It just didn't ever work.
And it took talking to someother people where they said,
well, keto may work for some, itjust may not work for you.
And I learned, you know, not topoo-poo on any of the programs
out there.
Every program works forsomebody.
You just got to find what worksfor you.
Emma Viglucci (14:26):
Yep, for sure.
There are so many differentthings that affects who we are.
Just, if we have this type ofenzymes more than others, we
could digest the food betterthan somebody else, right?
Some people can't processcoffee and caffeine and some
people thrive on it.
Like there's actually enzymesand genes for this stuff.
(14:48):
It's like what, right?
So there's all kinds ofinformation out there in terms
of, like, we are very specificmachines and so just to learn
more about ourselves because,like you said, what might work
for you might not work for meand vice versa.
Correct, so right, excellent.
So what else about your journey?
That's made your journeyspecial?
You said it's about eightmonths in what have you?
(15:12):
What are some other things thatyou've, you've tried so far
that you feel like, okay, Imight be in the right track with
this one.
A keto, not so good.
So what else?
Marvin Bee (15:19):
Well, the biggest thing is maintaining consistency
in the changes we make.
I think one of the things thatwe do is you know, we'll do
something, and we have thistendency to believe that if it
doesn't work in a week, wellthen it must not be working.
And I'm learning that.
(15:40):
No, my body didn't get this wayin a week.
My body's been on this earthfor many, many years, so it will
take time to reverse theeffects of what I've done to it,
especially over the last fewyears.
For the first part of my life,I was working out, I was active
and stuff.
Well, being inactive, four tofive years that accumulates.
(16:06):
So, it may take me a good fourto five months, if not another
four to five years, to reversewhat I've let my body do.
So, changing up the diet,changing what I drink, those
were kind of the first things,but I'm doing them kind of in
baby steps, you know, not tryingto change everything at once,
(16:27):
because I think that kind of isan overload to our system and
you have to make the changes, orfor me, I had to make the
changes gradually and allow mybody to adjust to all the things
that I was going to startmaking you do.
Emma Viglucci (16:44):
Lovely, very good .
One of the things that I'vebeen playing with is sleep.
That's like a major thing and Idon't know if you've done
anything with that yet.
You mentioned that you hadsleep specialists on your
podcast, so if you have any goodtips, by all means I want to
hear them.
But definitely, aside fromgetting the seven to eight hours
everybody talks about, right,just making sure, like the whole
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circadian rhythm, the sleephygiene before you go to bed,
like all the things to make surethat you get good sleep, enough
sleep, and why sleep is soimportant, right?
So what do you got?
Anything that you'veaccumulated?
Marvin Bee (17:21):
Well, again, a lot of this stuff is what we've
heard before Get your seven tonine hours in, and you mentioned
the regimen before you go tobed.
A lot of times I was so guiltyof working up until the time it
was, you know, time to go to bed.
Yeah, whether I was so guiltyof working up until the time it
was time to go to bed, whether Iwas here at the office my
office is a thousand yards frommy home, so I could work till
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late at night and then go homeand think, oh, I'll just hop in
the bed and go to sleep.
And then, of course, I'mtossing and turning and the wife
is fidgeting.
She's like what is wrong withyou?
That sort of stuff.
So getting into a regimen ofwinding down before going to bed
was huge for me, giving myself,you know, at least an hour of
(18:09):
no working, you know, no eating,which was a big thing too.
I, you know, go home and eatsomething before hopping into
bed, right?
Emma Viglucci (18:19):
And then right there, that would do it.
That's like all the extrapounds right there.
Marvin Bee (18:24):
And turning off the TV.
You know, both the wife and Ilike to watch TV to fall asleep,
and I'm getting to the pointnow where, okay, I'll, I'll do
it for a few minutes, but atsome point TV's got to go off.
Emma Viglucci (18:39):
Yes.
Marvin Bee (18:40):
Got to focus on the sleep and allow your body to do
that.
And then I've got.
Actually, I found a trackingapp.
Now, I don't know how good itis, because even when the wife's
away, the numbers are the same.
Even when the wife's away, thenumbers are the same.
And so at first I thought, well, it's you know tracking her as
well if she moves, that's right.
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Or if both of us are snoring ortalking or getting up and going
to the restroom and stuff, butat least having something that
is, you know, physical enoughfor you to look at and see.
Okay, this is my pattern andthis is the percentage of sleep
that I'm getting each night.
What do I need to do to raisethat percentage?
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Do I need to sleep another halfan hour?
Do I need to find a way to stopmyself from snoring?
Do I?
You know all these things?
So the app, I think, is huge.
I hit 100% sleep the othernight.
Emma Viglucci (19:43):
So I totally hear you.
When I used to track mine, Igave up on it because, like you
said, it's tracking all thesethings.
My husband's there, the dog'sthere.
It's like, oh, you were movingall night long, no, I wasn't.
Or you were snoring no, Iwasn't.
My husband was snoring.
I was up, I was listening thewhole time and he's the one
that's snoring, like that kindof thing.
You know, oh, you got up, no, Ididn't.
My husband got up, you know,like so, definitely not tracking
me.
I was like, okay, this is notvery, very, you know, honed in.
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I know there's a gazillionmillion apps and gadgets.
Right, the aura rings arereally good, because then that's
tailored to you, right, right,or or the watch.
For me, those didn't workbecause I'm like I can't have
anything on me, everything comesoff.
So, like I'm very sensitive tostimuli, so I couldn't have any
devices on me to track.
I was like you know what I don'tneed to track.
I know if I slept okay or not,I could tell in the morning.
(20:28):
Right, that's good enough fornow, you know, until until I get
more fancy, I don't know, butyeah, so thank you for all of
those and I love the point thatyou made about.
Okay, so if the percentages arenot so good or if you're not
tracking it per se with devices,but in the morning you get up
and you're still very tired,even though you were in bed for
like all these hours andsupposedly you were sleeping for
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all of these hours, but youstill you get very, very tired.
Hmm, maybe that wasn't the bestsleep, right?
So how can I improve it?
You know, maybe the room needsto be cooler, maybe my pillow
needs to be thicker or softer orthis or that, like all those
little things.
Right, until you start hitting,like that little sweet spot.
Marvin Bee (21:08):
Right and it may take some time, but again,
consistency being willing tocontinue even when you don't
think it's working.
Yeah, it's like consistencybeing willing to continue even
when you don't think it'sworking.
Emma Viglucci (21:18):
Yeah, it's like okay, so I'm working on my sleep
.
So let me keep working on mysleep.
Let me keep cracking the codes,fine tuning, tweaking right and
staying on it.
Yeah, for sure.
Marvin Bee (21:30):
I like it.
I compare it to the game ofgolf.
So you know, most people thatplay golf will kind of admit
that there are those shots thatyou hit that are you're like, oh
, that was the shot that wasperfect, but yet you spend the
rest of the day.
How do I duplicate?
Emma Viglucci (21:51):
Right.
Marvin Bee (21:54):
And the grass and the angle, and then the club,
and that's what we do with whenit comes to things like sleep
and our health.
Emma Viglucci (22:02):
That's why we say it's a journey and it's not a
destination, because we'reconstantly tweaking and fine
tuning and getting better.
Yep, Right.
So I used to say which I thinkthat we are familiar with it the
phrase practice makes perfect.
But there is no such thing,right?
So somebody corrected me, orrather instructed me, and said
how about practice makesprogress?
(22:24):
And I was like Ooh, so I'vebeen quoting this guy for a
while now.
I love that.
Yes, we just keep gettingbetter and better, right.
Marvin Bee (22:31):
Yeah.
Emma Viglucci (22:32):
Very good.
So now you mentioned that partof your journey when we were
talking about yourselves, and inthe material you sent me that
there was emotional eating alsoas part of this thing, right?
So any thoughts about that.
As a therapist, of course, Iunderstand this concept, but for
our audience, what have yourlearnings been and your
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takeaways, what you're workingon with that?
What have you learned?
Marvin Bee (22:58):
Well, this is one of those places where I actually
had another expert on and Ishould probably let your
listeners know I myself not evenclose to an expert.
I don't pretend to be an expert, this is just my journey that
I'm documenting talking to otherpeople.
But Renee Jones is a coach thatcame on a while back and in my
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mind I always associatedemotional eating with, you know,
the Lifetime movie or theHallmark movie where you know
the person sitting at home inbed upset, that their date, you
know, stood them up or somethingalong those lines.
But emotional eating is so muchmore than that.
(23:42):
You know.
Stress is an emotion.
Emma Viglucci (23:45):
That's right.
Marvin Bee (23:45):
So if we're stressed at work or stressed in
relationships or anything else,that affects how we eat, how we
entertain ourselves is anotherthing.
So again, I'm a sports guy, soI watch a lot of sports on TV
and we're just so conditionedthat if we're in front of the TV
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there's got to be a bucket ofwings or some fries, or some
burgers, soda or beer.
That just goes along with that.
Emma Viglucci (24:18):
Well, you know how to watch TV.
I was going to say popcorn, butman, you know what you're doing
over there.
Marvin Bee (24:23):
It is sports, so it's either going to the bar or
trying to duplicate the bar atthe home Right right.
So that all plays a part of itas well.
So this whole emotional part ofour eating.
Now, you wouldn't think thatsitting in front of the TV
watching sports is part of theemotional part of it.
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But how are you feeling whenyou're sitting in front of the
TV or you're out with your pals?
That's all part of the emotion.
You've got this adrenaline,you've got the dopamine, where
you're happy and excited andyou're just eating away.
So that was something that Ilearned that emotional eating is
(25:04):
not just that sad ice creamfilled moment that we think
Absolutely.
Emma Viglucci (25:09):
Yeah, you know, I love that example, because
usually that's not how I hearthe example of emotional eating.
So that's a nice other additionto it.
And, yeah, you're making theconnection to this is how I have
fun, this is how I enjoy things, this is how I connect with
people, this is how you watchsports Like, this is how it was
exciting.
And all of those even positivefeelings get all connected to
(25:32):
food, right, and so you need tohave the food to create the
whole experience and to have allthe fun, the connection, the
assignment, whatever theexperience, and so all those
associations are being made, andso there's emotional eating
involved in that.
That's interesting, I love that.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Marvin Bee (25:49):
Or if you're working late, throw in another pot of
coffee, order a pizza.
It's just part of the thingthat we have to adjust as part
of the emotional part of what wedo, as it relates to the eating
.
Emma Viglucci (26:04):
Yes, you know I'm going to add another angle on
this, and that is that we usefood for self-regulation, right
To moderate our feelings.
So if we are feeling anythingthat's sad, it's stress, not
good, upset, bored, you know weput a food in to self-soothe, to
self-regulate, like food iscomfort, so it's like okay, I'm
(26:26):
okay, I'm not gonna die, I havefood.
You know, psychologicallythere's like a thing there and
so that's how we take care ofourselves with food.
Everything that, anything like,let me take care of ourselves
with food.
Anything like, let me take careof it with food.
And the more physiological sideof that is also sometimes we
confuse the hunger cues, right,like we're thirsty but we think
we're hungry, so we'reconstantly eating Meanwhile
(26:47):
we're actually thirsty.
Those cues are very hard todistinguish sometimes.
Marvin Bee (26:52):
Yes, they are.
Emma Viglucci (26:53):
Yeah, so many things.
I hear you so much nuance toall of this right, because we
could talk about the food, thehydration, the exercise, the
sleep, the relax and we didn'ttouch on that yet.
Like all the pillars forwellness and each one of them
has like a zillion little parts.
(27:14):
Like you go granular with thiswith this right and it could be
overwhelming.
So the thing is like I lovewhat you said much earlier to
just focus on like take it easy,you know like one or two things
and just consistency and niceand steady wins the race, right.
Marvin Bee (27:33):
Yeah.
Emma Viglucci (27:34):
Beautiful.
Okay, so the next thing that wewant to touch on was that the
body is an interconnected system, so it's not just a little body
just here, and if I do this,everything's perfect.
So tell us more about whatyou're thinking about that.
Marvin Bee (27:49):
Well, some of the things that I've been learning
with some of the specialists isI've had people that have come
on and talked about specifictypes of alternative lifestyles
I guess it's the best way todescribe it you know, looking at
functional medicine or lookingat something like Ayurveda,
(28:10):
which has been around a lotlonger than we know about, but
what all of these do is theylook at the body as a whole and
we tend to focus more on justthe one thing that we think is
wrong.
Right, well, I'm fat, so I'lljust fix that and everything
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will be fine.
Where it might be that otherparts of our lives could be
affecting that particular area,we talked about emotional eating
, where how we interact withother people, how we interact
with TV that's part of thatholistic approach and how we
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feed our bodies, how we feed ourminds and how we treat our body
and minds kind of has to belooked at from a whole
perspective.
There is a show that I listen tothat I'm trying to get her on
the show where she's talkedabout this low-tox lifestyle
when, yes, there's a lot ofthings in our food that are
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making our body unhealthy, thatare making our body unhealthy,
but there's a lot of things inour environment where some
people have this weirdassociation with smells or
touches or sounds.
It's hard for me to put it inwords, but I've learned from all
of these practices that youhave to look at the body as a
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whole, because the symptom, thatyou have to look at the body as
a whole, because the symptomthat we have might be caused by
something completely differentthan what we think it is.
So that's one of the thingsthat I haven't quite grasped it
yet, but I'm learning that wehave to look at our body in a
multidimensional, holistic way.
Emma Viglucci (30:04):
I love that.
You know, at first I thoughtyou were going to say okay, so
if my stomach hurts, I havesomething wrong with my stomach,
right.
Or if I have headaches, okay,something's wrong with my brain,
right.
And then, but there might beother things, like what are you
putting in your body?
What are you eating?
Or maybe hormones are off, ormaybe other neurochemicals are
off, or whatever.
There might be other thingsgoing on in your body that are
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creating symptoms, in particularorgans or parts of your body.
So I thought that's where youwere going.
But then when you suggested,like, well, it's not just the
body, the body is part ofeverything else too, like
there's a whole context to yourlife, it's not just your body.
So that is so beautiful.
That's a fantastic way oflooking at this, right, because
usually when something's wrongwith the body, it's not well, it
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manifests as a physical thing,but that's the end product.
There's all of the things thatprobably affected it in the
first place, correct?
So I love that.
The whole thing with emotionsdefinitely they get stuck in the
body.
There's all kinds of thingsgoing on interrelational things,
stress, like all kinds ofthings.
They show up as symptoms in thebody, right and I love that.
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So from your side, when you'relooking at it holistically like
that, any thoughts on whatsystems are impacting the body,
as far as from your ownexperience for yourself or
things that you have heard fromyour guests?
Marvin Bee (31:27):
So I mean, I've heard a lot of things that I
have not yet experienced myself,so I'm in the process of trying
to figure out.
Am I going to go and get testedand figure out?
You mentioned hormones.
There are things, when it comesto hormones and vitamin
deficiencies and all of thosethings that we just don't think
(31:50):
of, that we may need to go andfind out.
Okay, is our body deficient inone of these areas?
And yeah, sometimes it might be, change your diet to get those
deficiencies.
Sometimes it's something wherewe might actually need to get
medical help to get thatdeficiency taken care of.
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There was another story that Imentioned the smell.
So there was a lady that gothelped by one of my people I
haven't had them on the show yetso I'm not going to say their
name but she was telling me thestory of somebody that for years
would have these headaches notat work, not out and about, but
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at home, and they could notfigure out why until somebody
came in and started looking attheir environment.
It turns out that they had beengetting these candles for years
and every night they would gohome and light candles because
they loved the smell and itturns out these particular
candles were triggeringsomething in their body and
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giving them pain.
And it got the candles removed,the headaches went away.
I mean, it's it's.
It's weird that we would hearsomething like that and most of
it, most of us would think comeon, really candles.
Emma Viglucci (33:15):
I believe you.
Marvin Bee (33:18):
But there are things in candles now that probably
shouldn't be in candles.
I mean, vanilla doesn't becomea candle.
Emma Viglucci (33:26):
Right, natural, that's right.
Oh, absolutely, I'm forgettingthe name for them.
But, yeah, definitely there'sstuff in candles that you're not
supposed to be inhaling.
So there's a healthier versionof candles that you're supposed.
If you love candles, you couldget.
There's other things, things inall of the places.
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It could be a rabbit hole man,let me tell you, rabbit hole.
Very good.
So, for overall health, foroverall wellbeing, any
recommendations for having aholistic approach to your life,
to your approach to health andwellness?
Marvin Bee (34:08):
In terms of an overall approach.
I think the last thing Imentioned just looking at your
body as a whole is not only agood place to start, but
something that you have torevisit over and over again.
Something that you have torevisit over and over again and
I was trying to think of thisword before we started recording
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but be more accepting ofyourself.
Emma Viglucci (34:35):
Compassionate.
Marvin Bee (34:37):
That's a good word, yes, Accepting.
And we don't have to lookperfect to be healthy, live
happy, which are the mantras ofmy show.
The thing is to be healthy, youknow, and be happy.
So I may not have to look likeI did 20 years ago in order to
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feel like I did 20 years ago.
So I need to adapt some thingswhile adjusting others and being
able to realize that it's notjust the body, it's also the
mind, it's also the spirit, thesoul.
All of those things play acombined role in what we do.
Emma Viglucci (35:24):
Yeah, exactly so.
Have you integrated any habitsyet?
I don't mean to put you on thespot and if not, what are you
thinking about integrating interms of for the mind, for mind
health, mental health and forspiritual health or spiritual
well-being?
Because mind, body and spirit,right.
(35:46):
So the body you're working, andwhat are the two other areas to
bring it full circle?
Have you given them any thoughtyet?
Marvin Bee (35:53):
I'll tell you the things that I've already done
actively.
Emma Viglucci (35:56):
Okay, perfect, yes.
Marvin Bee (35:57):
So you know, in addition to adjusting, you know
what I eat, the diet.
Part of it adjusting myschedule.
Yes, so that I'm not working.
You know what I eat, the diet.
Part of it adjusting myschedule.
Emma Viglucci (36:06):
Yes.
Marvin Bee (36:07):
So that I'm not working you know, those 12, 14,
16 hours that I'm getting mysleep.
But also, what am I doingduring those daytime hours?
More breaks during the workday,so that I can simply give my
body a chance to just, you know,settle for a few minutes, get a
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little bit of recharge and thengo again.
Now I've not done anything withregards to meditation or
anything like that, but findingtimes to rest within the workday
has been huge and I think italleviates some of the stress.
The mind part of it is justlike.
(36:54):
This is going to sound horribleto some people, but I think
most will get it.
The type of work that I do.
If something doesn't happen,nobody's going to die.
So it sounds harsh, but I'mjust an IT guy and, yes, a
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computer may crash, a mouse maybreak, a piece of software
doesn't.
Emma Viglucci (37:18):
That feels like the end of the world, Marv, when
that happens.
Marvin Bee (37:21):
It does they call and you know I've got to get
this done, or you know, and mostof the times I have to just
stop myself and say, okay,what's the worst thing that
would happen if we can't getthis fixed right away?
Most of the time it's not asbig as they thought, now.
Granted, there are some timeswhere I've got a project that
(37:43):
I've got to get done in fiveminutes.
I worked with a lot ofattorneys, so of course
everything is critical to themGot to get it to the judge right
now.
But I do what I can and I don'tstress myself out about it.
And if I can get it done, great.
If not, I'm not going to beatmyself up Because at the end of
(38:05):
the day, nobody's going to die.
Emma Viglucci (38:09):
Yes, that's what a beautiful idea of like taking
life in stride, right, like notbeing so serious about the
little things, like most of itis not a matter of life and
death and most of it can wait acouple more minutes or another
day or a couple hours orwhatever it is.
And if we were to take thatstock and kind of like give
(38:31):
ourselves perspective onwhatever's freaking us out in
the moment?
Most of it is like not a bigdeal, right, most of the things
are not big deals.
Even the biggest trigger, thebiggest offense by your partner,
usually is not a big deal,usually, right, there are things
that people do, but for themost part, most things in our
life we could take a step backand be like it's going to be
(38:53):
okay, right, and if we could begentle with ourselves and the
thing that's happening, thenwe'll operate better and take
care of it easier and better.
Yeah, anyway, right, I.
And better.
Yeah, anyway, right, I love it.
Yeah, that's a great stressmanagement technique giving
yourself some perspective sothat you don't go, so you don't
take yourself on a ride andfreak yourself out for no reason
(39:16):
.
I love that, perfect.
And so what are some thingsthat you're thinking of adding
to your whole journey here Anycool habits that you think
you'll be integrating in thenear future.
What are the things that arekind of having you curious?
Marvin Bee (39:33):
So I can tell you what the wife would love for me
to do.
Okay, let's start there.
Take more vacations, sure, andthe types of vacations where the
computer doesn't go with, sothat, while I'm away, work is
away completely.
Because we have a tendency asIT people that, regardless of
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where we are because we can workremotely, anything that comes
up we're going to stop whatwe're doing and try to take care
of it.
So, again, that separation andallowing for things to just
happen.
Obviously there needs to be abackup in place to where, if I
can't take care of it, somebodycan, of course.
(40:17):
Yeah, so that's probably one ofthe big things we are.
One of the big things we are.
So we're committed to start, Ibelieve, next week or the week
after, to clean eating.
Emma Viglucci (40:32):
Okay, where we're looking at all the aspects of
whether it's organic orgluten-free or GMO.
Marvin Bee (40:53):
I mean it's looking at all of those things and
finding out, okay, how clean can?
We eat and still enjoy what weeat.
Emma Viglucci (40:58):
Right, yeah, that's a big journey, right.
You know, like I said before,for each thing there's so much
nuance, right, so many thingsthat can be done for each thing.
So that's a great approach ofremoving all of the toxicity
from our food, to begin with,right, and then anything that's
inflammatory like we said alsoearlier, everybody's different.
(41:21):
So gluten doesn't sit well withme, dairy not so much also, so
some things I have cleaned frommy diet, but there's all the
things like shellfish, peanuts,soy, it's like, oh, like there's
like a few things that arereally inflammatory.
Eggs, like some things thatjust people say, like people who
eat really, really, reallyclean, just don't eat any of
(41:41):
this inflammatory food, right?
So when you start removing allthat stuff, then it becomes
really challenging.
Okay, so what do I eat?
And so it's a matter of likefinding a healthy version and
then not an inflammatory version.
That's what keeps the weightstuck, a little bit Like when
we're eating food that inflamesthe body, right, so the body's
not optimally functioning tocleansing itself and digesting
(42:01):
and getting all the nutrientsinto cleansing itself and
digesting and getting all thenutrients.
But, yeah, so kudos to you andthe wife for taking on that big,
big goal.
I like it.
Marvin Bee (42:11):
That's a big goal.
Emma Viglucci (42:13):
That's a nice one , Very good, All right, Marvin.
Any last minute offers to theaudience like a message, like an
inspiration for them to go benot unhealthy.
Marvin Bee (42:26):
Well, the biggest thing I would probably say is
the premise of my show.
At first I thought was to justdocument my journey and figure
out what worked.
But it's turning into thisjourney of finding out what is
unhealthy, regardless of what itis, and reducing or eliminating
(42:49):
it, whether it's, you know, thediet, the exercise, because,
again, just because you're doingsomething that you think is
healthy, it may not be.
Some people exercise in anunhealthy way.
Yep, we eat a lot of times inan unhealthy way, we have
relationships in an unhealthyway, and all of that plays a
(43:12):
role into what we do.
So the concept now has beenfind all the things that are
unhealthy and either reduce oreliminate them and replace them
with something that is healthy.
Emma Viglucci (43:26):
I love it.
I'm going to put you on thespot.
Since you mentionedrelationships.
You got to be careful what youask for, emma, but any thoughts
on things that you know toremove from relationships that
are unhealthy, what would youoffer our audience?
Remove?
Marvin Bee (43:48):
So probably the one thing to remove would be our
image of what we think theperfect relationship is.
Emma Viglucci (43:59):
Oh, look at you See, there's wisdom there.
Marvin Bee (44:01):
So some of the work that I've done um with one of
the guests on the show has beento look at when we started our
relationships what, what was itthat we expected from the other
person, along with what is itthat we expect to provide them
(44:23):
in the relationship?
So that has been now just togive listeners a perspective.
I've been married to my wifenow 20 years.
I've known her for 27.
And I'm not going to say it'sperfect, but we've gone through
those times where it's like,well, you're not listening to me
(44:44):
and you're not taking thisseriously.
But when you step back andthink about, okay, what is it
that we expect?
Did we tell the other personthat we expected that?
Emma Viglucci (44:56):
Exactly.
Marvin Bee (44:59):
Did we ask them what they should expect of us, them
what they should expect of us.
So it's been an interestingthing now to kind of sit here,
you know, 20 years into amarriage, as if we're starting
over to be like okay when I whenI say this to you, what does it
really mean?
Emma Viglucci (45:16):
Oh gosh, music to my ears, yes, right.
And also I love that you saidwhat are they?
What are the?
What can they expect from me?
But also, do I know what theirexpectation of me is Like?
They might expect things Idon't even know right, and I
could very easily do thosethings as I'm no skin off my
back.
It's reasonable.
But I just don't know.
And I'm letting you down overand over because I don't know
right.
Marvin Bee (45:37):
Or you should know.
I'm not gonna tell you, youshould just know.
Emma Viglucci (45:41):
Don't even get me started with that.
Yes, you should read me,because if you love me, you
would know.
Marvin Bee (45:48):
Right.
Emma Viglucci (45:50):
If.
Marvin Bee (45:51):
I read minds maybe.
Emma Viglucci (45:53):
Yeah, very good, terrific.
So a lot of wisdom in there andI love that you're on this
journey and I am so proud foryou for having all these amazing
guests that you're bringing onfor your own journey, for your
own learning, and then you'resharing that, because a lot of
us do that on the side, forourselves, right, but we don't
create a platform or contextwhere we could share what we're
(46:14):
learning with others.
So I definitely subscribe tothat idea and I commend anybody
else who does as well.
So I love it that you're onthat journey and that you're as
you're learning, you're sharingit.
So that's amazing, so kudos.
Marvin Bee (46:26):
Well, I'm sharing it , and then I'm also sharing the
voices of the people that arecoming on the show.
A lot of them are in the midstof their own journey, where
they're finding out what worksfor them, and they're you know,
some of them are, you knowcoaches themselves, and so
they're looking for people thatthey can share their knowledge
with.
So, along with sharing myjourney, I'm sharing a platform
(46:50):
for them so that they can, youknow, get the word out about
what's worked for them andbasically try to help each other
out.
Emma Viglucci (46:59):
Yeah, exactly that's what I meant to say.
Maybe I didn't say it fully.
Right that in your journey,you're also bringing in your
learnings, like the people thatare helping you learn, right?
So that's so good, it's like awin-win-win, right?
They get to share your learning.
You're sharing with others.
Other people are learning sobeautiful, so amazing, so good,
perfect.
So, marvin, why don't you sharewith our audience where they
(47:21):
could find you?
Tell them more about thispodcast and your social media,
or rather just a podcast, andthen I'll put the links in the
show notes.
Marvin Bee (47:28):
Well, everything starts with the website, so
unhealthypodcastcom, and onthere you'll find the past
episodes that I've done.
You'll also find all the linksand a contact page where they
can reach out to me.
Emma Viglucci (47:42):
Fabulous, Amazing Mr.
Thank you so much can reach outto me.
Fabulous, Amazing Mr.
Thank you so much for sharingtime with me.
A pleasure having you on andlearning from you and hearing
your wisdom and about how yourjourney is going so fun.
Thank you again for being here.
Marvin Bee (47:55):
Well, you're welcome .
Thanks for having me and goodjourneys to you as well.
Emma Viglucci (48:00):
Thank you and to the listeners until the next one
.
Bye.
Hello, I am so excited to have you here for
another episode.
I have the pleasure of havingMarvin be with us today.
He is going to share somewonderful insights that he has
learned on his own journey ofbecoming more healthy.
Now he's a podcaster himself,so he's going to share the
(00:30):
insights that he's learned onhis journey from other guests
that he's had on his show.
So today's show is a little bitdifferent and it's going to be
so exciting to hear where histakeaways have been, what he has
learned and how he has appliedall of the lessons to his own
life and how he see others applyit to theirs.
So, without further ado, I'mgoing to bring Marvin on in a
(00:51):
minute.
Stay tuned, you're in for atreat.
Welcome and hello.
I'm so excited to have Marvinwith us.
Let me read you his introbefore we say hello to Marvin.
Marvin B is the host of thepopular Uncle Marv's Unhealthy
(01:12):
Podcast, where he shares hispersonal journey of overcoming
unhealthy habits and lifestylechoices.
With over 25 years ofexperience in the IT industry,
marvin is no stranger to thechallenges of balancing work,
health and personal life.
Through his own trial and error, marvin discovered the power of
(01:32):
functional medicine,mindfulness practices and
technology-enabled wellnesssolutions.
He now uses his podcast as aplatform to share this insight
and inspire others to take aholistic approach to their
health.
On his podcast, marvin bringson a wide range of expert guests
, from nutritionists and fitnesstrainers to mental health
(01:54):
professionals and sleepspecialists.
His engaging interview styleand deep industry knowledge
allows him to extract practicaltips and strategies that
listeners can immediately applyto their own lives.
His goal is to empowerlisteners to break free from
unhealthy habits and achievelasting well-being.
So, without further ado, I'msaying hello to Marvin.
(02:16):
Hi, marvin, I'm so excited thatyou're here with me today.
Marvin Bee (02:19):
Hello Emma, how are you?
Thank you for having me.
Emma Viglucci (02:22):
I'm doing well and thank you for being here.
I'm so excited that you're here.
We're going to have a funconversation with all the fun
takeaways that you have learnedyourself and will help others do
the same, right.
Marvin Bee (02:35):
That's what we're going to try to do.
Emma Viglucci (02:37):
That's the goal, that's the intention anyway.
So, marvin, it's so interestingthat you started in IT and so
you have a full blown careerbefore you became a podcaster.
So tell us a little bit aboutthat experience and what led to
your wellness journey and thento become a podcaster.
Marvin Bee (02:57):
Well, I'm going to zigzag a little through the
history here, because I haveactually had a podcast for seven
years through the IT business.
So that came first in this newpodcast I started just recently.
And the reason that I startedthat is because I've spent 27
years in IT, but most of thoseyears I was actually active
(03:22):
working out playing basketball,eating right Well, I shouldn't
say eating right, but I wasactually active working out
playing basketball, eating rightWell, I shouldn't say eating
right, but I was working outenough that I could eat and
still look and feel healthy.
And IT, technically, is one ofthose types of jobs where you're
just kind of sitting around alot, but I have a type of
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business where I would go outand see clients.
So I was always active, alwayswalking, moving computers,
moving clients from one officeto another, so it wasn't that
big a deal.
So a few years ago I quitbasketball and I said you know
what?
I've spent the first 40 plusyears of my life always doing
(04:06):
something, whether it wasfootball, basketball, track,
running, softball.
And I said you know what I'mdone, who am I trying to impress
?
Fine, and then a few years thebelly starts getting a little
(04:27):
bigger, a little bit harder toget up in the morning, a little
sluggish and tired throughoutthe day, and I finally got to
the point where I said you know,I guess I got to start doing
something.
But then the hard part istrying to find out what I could
do that I would enjoy and thatwould work.
Then it was trying to find away to be accountable, because
telling my wife I want to eathealthy just wasn't working,
(04:51):
even though she had spent a lotof years in the weight loss
industry.
What she did for her patientsin the weight loss wasn't
working for me.
Emma Viglucci (05:01):
Oh, how interesting.
Marvin Bee (05:03):
So I said I got to go out and start finding what's
going to work.
So two years ago I actuallytried to reach out to people and
talk to them about what wasworking and what wasn't working,
and I thought, you know what?
I need to make this a podcastso that I could find a way to
force myself to be accountablewith the information that I
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learned.
And a podcast would be a a wayto force myself to be
accountable with the informationthat I learned.
And a podcast would be a goodway to get guests you know,
knowledgeable people, experts tocome on the show and share what
works for them.
So it was kind of a twofoldthing, and so I started that
about eight months ago.
(05:44):
And here we are doing betterNot 100%, but better.
Emma Viglucci (05:49):
I love it, so that's fascinating.
So you had this whole thinggoing on.
You were already podcast or youwere doing your things.
For some reason you just needto continue doing sports.
And you were like I'm good withall this sports, I've tried
them all already, I've enjoyedthem, I'm good.
But then you're like like, waita second, how do I get my
activity?
And if I'm not playing sportsand I'm not moving clients
around or working the same waythat I used to, right makes
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sense.
And I was like, okay, I have tofigure out how to do this
differently so that it works forme.
And let me tell you somethingwe get a little older.
It's not so easy, right?
Marvin Bee (06:20):
because no, it is not yes.
Emma Viglucci (06:23):
So whatever you did, what we did when we were
younger and it worked likeimmediately and I was like, okay
, I had to put a little bit moreeffort for it to do the same
things, right?
Marvin Bee (06:31):
well it's.
It's a lot of different things.
So, you know, I took offbasically about four to five
years before I started gettingserious again about working out,
eating right.
So I would get up in themorning and, you know, start to
do a little run or start to dosome jumping rope and, you know,
every few days something wouldhurt and I'd have to stop.
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It was just something like,okay, I've been an athlete all
my life, things shouldn't hurt,but they did.
So obviously I had to make achange and I wanted to find a
way that I could do things thatyou know you see on the YouTube
videos.
You know, do these 10 things.
You know, eat what you want.
(07:14):
And I knew they were wrong.
We got by with eating healthyand not getting.
You know, in my case I'm goingto say fat without having to
work out, and you know CrossFitand do all that stuff.
(07:35):
So something in this world haschanged to where we have to work
harder to look and feel better.
So I wanted to find ways that,okay, how can I reverse that and
go back to what you know?
In the seventies and eighties Ididn't have to work this hard.
Now some of it's my age, but Ithink a lot of it is the things
(07:55):
that we do in life now with ourfood and our exercise and our
lifestyle and our environment.
Emma Viglucci (08:03):
Yeah, yeah, I'm hearing the knowledge that
you've gotten, that you'velearned recently, beginning to
come through.
I love it.
So why don't we jump in withthe first thing that you've kind
of learned or able to take awayfrom the experts that you
started working with, or ratherinterviewing and learning from?
(08:26):
So I'm seeing that one of thethings was you could look great
and feel great, but maybe you'restill not healthy, maybe
there's still something wrong.
Marvin Bee (08:36):
Right.
Emma Viglucci (08:36):
So that's very, very interesting concept,
because usually if we look greatand feel great again, we don't
like what's there to worry about.
Then Right, like, how do youknow that something's not right?
Marvin Bee (08:47):
Yeah, that was one thing.
Now I took it from the otherperspective because I named the
show unhealthy for a reason.
Emma Viglucci (08:54):
Right.
Marvin Bee (08:55):
Because we all hear about the things that we can do
from the healthy standpoint, butwhat about the things that
we're doing unhealthy, that areeither canceling out, or about
the things that we're doingunhealthy that are either
canceling out or battling thethings that we're doing healthy?
Emma Viglucci (09:09):
Yes.
Marvin Bee (09:09):
And one of the first things I realized that it's not
really about how you look andhow you feel, because there are
many people that we can see outevery day that look great, they
look fantastic and yet they'reunhealthy.
Emma Viglucci (09:27):
Right, what are they doing to look that way?
It's not very healthy.
Marvin Bee (09:29):
Right, right.
So either that or they're still, you know, running up and
getting sick, you know, on aconstant basis and things.
So I'm like, okay, it's, it'sgotta be more than just how we
look and feel.
There's gotta be some otherstuff.
So that was the first thing Istarted learning, when I was
talking to everybody where theywould talk about the same things
as me.
They were doing all the thingsthat they thought they were
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supposed to be doing and forsome reason it either wasn't
working or they would do all ofthat stuff.
They would lose the weight,they would lose the inches, but
still be miserable.
Emma Viglucci (10:06):
Okay so.
Marvin Bee (10:06):
I'm like, okay, there's something we got to pay
attention to.
Emma Viglucci (10:10):
Right, Right.
Well, so with that piece ofinformation or awareness, did
you come across some otherthings that what the unhealthy
things are that people shouldnot be doing?
Marvin Bee (10:24):
Well, yeah, I'm getting a bunch of those, and
what's funny is they're reallyall the things that we've been
hearing for the past severalyears.
They're all about, you know,get good sleep.
They're all about change yourdiet, but not in the standpoint
of, you know, dieting as we knowit.
You know, diet should be justour regular food that we eat on
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a daily basis.
And getting away from everybodyknows to get away from sugar.
Everybody knows that you shouldeat less calories.
But it goes deeper than that.
It goes into what is it thatyou're actually eating?
What's going into the food thatwe're eating?
There's so many things that areconsidered healthy or low fat
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that they're really not.
They may, you know, they maynot have all the calories here,
but they've got all thesechemicals and ingredients that
are still leading to ourunhealthiness, whether it's, you
know I don't want to say toomany things you know outright
naming them, but you know thehigh fructose corn syrup, all
(11:33):
the chemicals that if you lookat a food label, why is this
acid in my food?
So that's a part of it too,where we've kind of conditioned
our bodies to accept theseunhealthy things and then, when
we try to be healthy, our body'sgot to get rid of all that crap
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you know what's reallyinteresting.
Emma Viglucci (11:59):
So one of the things that I've learned
recently I'm also a wellnessjunkie, right, so of course my
profession is mental health.
I specialize also a wellnessjunkie, right, so of course my
profession is mental health.
I specialize in working withcouples, couples therapy and all
of that, but this is my cup oftea on the side, right, like
learning all of the wellnessthings.
And so one of the things that Ilearned recently was that oils
are actually worse than sugarfor your body, because the sugar
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you potentially could get ridof, you could release from your
body.
The oils actually stick to youand it takes I forget what the
number of years was like yearsand years and years for whatever
oil you took in like bad oil,for it to release or get out of
your body, for you to detox fromthat oil.
So all of it.
(12:43):
Like when you go through adrive-thru and you get French
fries, it's not just thepotatoes, it's like the fried,
but why?
Because it's fried in thatnasty oil.
So there's a bunch of oils andI'm not gonna you know, this is
not the type of podcast, rightbut so a bunch of different oils
that, for those of you who areinterested.
Who are listening?
Do the research.
There's a bunch of oils thatwhen you eat those, it's
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impossible to get them out ofyour body and that's really,
really, really toxic.
That's like the worst thingthat you could eat, even worse
than sugar, and sugar is thedevil.
So very interesting, yeah.
So go right ahead, yeah.
Marvin Bee (13:19):
Yeah.
So, like you said, learningthose things are what's really
going to help us.
However, the second point thatI think I put down there is that
the journey is different foreveryone.
You know our bodies.
Yes, we're all kind of builtthe same.
We have the same organs, but,because of how we've lived, the
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things that work for some maynot work for all.
I learned this after one of myfriends gave me a whole bunch of
keto stuff when I firstannounced that, yeah, I like to
lose a few pounds off the bellyhere.
And she said, ok, well, here'sa whole bunch of keto stuff.
And I tried it and it did.
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It just didn't ever work.
And it took talking to someother people where they said,
well, keto may work for some, itjust may not work for you.
And I learned, you know, not topoo-poo on any of the programs
out there.
Every program works forsomebody.
You just got to find what worksfor you.
Emma Viglucci (14:26):
Yep, for sure.
There are so many differentthings that affects who we are.
Just, if we have this type ofenzymes more than others, we
could digest the food betterthan somebody else, right?
Some people can't processcoffee and caffeine and some
people thrive on it.
Like there's actually enzymesand genes for this stuff.
(14:48):
It's like what, right?
So there's all kinds ofinformation out there in terms
of, like, we are very specificmachines and so just to learn
more about ourselves because,like you said, what might work
for you might not work for meand vice versa.
Correct, so right, excellent.
So what else about your journey?
That's made your journeyspecial?
You said it's about eightmonths in what have you?
(15:12):
What are some other things thatyou've, you've tried so far
that you feel like, okay, Imight be in the right track with
this one.
A keto, not so good.
So what else?
Marvin Bee (15:19):
Well, the biggest thing is maintaining consistency
in the changes we make.
I think one of the things thatwe do is you know, we'll do
something, and we have thistendency to believe that if it
doesn't work in a week, wellthen it must not be working.
And I'm learning that.
(15:40):
No, my body didn't get this wayin a week.
My body's been on this earthfor many, many years, so it will
take time to reverse theeffects of what I've done to it,
especially over the last fewyears.
For the first part of my life,I was working out, I was active
and stuff.
Well, being inactive, four tofive years that accumulates.
(16:06):
So, it may take me a good fourto five months, if not another
four to five years, to reversewhat I've let my body do.
So, changing up the diet,changing what I drink, those
were kind of the first things,but I'm doing them kind of in
baby steps, you know, not tryingto change everything at once,
(16:27):
because I think that kind of isan overload to our system and
you have to make the changes, orfor me, I had to make the
changes gradually and allow mybody to adjust to all the things
that I was going to startmaking you do.
Emma Viglucci (16:44):
Lovely, very good .
One of the things that I'vebeen playing with is sleep.
That's like a major thing and Idon't know if you've done
anything with that yet.
You mentioned that you hadsleep specialists on your
podcast, so if you have any goodtips, by all means I want to
hear them.
But definitely, aside fromgetting the seven to eight hours
everybody talks about, right,just making sure, like the whole
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circadian rhythm, the sleephygiene before you go to bed,
like all the things to make surethat you get good sleep, enough
sleep, and why sleep is soimportant, right?
So what do you got?
Anything that you'veaccumulated?
Marvin Bee (17:21):
Well, again, a lot of this stuff is what we've
heard before Get your seven tonine hours in, and you mentioned
the regimen before you go tobed.
A lot of times I was so guiltyof working up until the time it
was, you know, time to go to bed.
Yeah, whether I was so guiltyof working up until the time it
was time to go to bed, whether Iwas here at the office my
office is a thousand yards frommy home, so I could work till
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late at night and then go homeand think, oh, I'll just hop in
the bed and go to sleep.
And then, of course, I'mtossing and turning and the wife
is fidgeting.
She's like what is wrong withyou?
That sort of stuff.
So getting into a regimen ofwinding down before going to bed
was huge for me, giving myself,you know, at least an hour of
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no working, you know, no eating,which was a big thing too.
I, you know, go home and eatsomething before hopping into
bed, right?
Emma Viglucci (18:19):
And then right there, that would do it.
That's like all the extrapounds right there.
Marvin Bee (18:24):
And turning off the TV.
You know, both the wife and Ilike to watch TV to fall asleep,
and I'm getting to the pointnow where, okay, I'll, I'll do
it for a few minutes, but atsome point TV's got to go off.
Emma Viglucci (18:39):
Yes.
Marvin Bee (18:40):
Got to focus on the sleep and allow your body to do
that.
And then I've got.
Actually, I found a trackingapp.
Now, I don't know how good itis, because even when the wife's
away, the numbers are the same.
Even when the wife's away, thenumbers are the same.
And so at first I thought, well, it's you know tracking her as
well if she moves, that's right.
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Or if both of us are snoring ortalking or getting up and going
to the restroom and stuff, butat least having something that
is, you know, physical enoughfor you to look at and see.
Okay, this is my pattern andthis is the percentage of sleep
that I'm getting each night.
What do I need to do to raisethat percentage?
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Do I need to sleep another halfan hour?
Do I need to find a way to stopmyself from snoring?
Do I?
You know all these things?
So the app, I think, is huge.
I hit 100% sleep the othernight.
Emma Viglucci (19:43):
So I totally hear you.
When I used to track mine, Igave up on it because, like you
said, it's tracking all thesethings.
My husband's there, the dog'sthere.
It's like, oh, you were movingall night long, no, I wasn't.
Or you were snoring no, Iwasn't.
My husband was snoring.
I was up, I was listening thewhole time and he's the one
that's snoring, like that kindof thing.
You know, oh, you got up, no, Ididn't.
My husband got up, you know,like so, definitely not tracking
me.
I was like, okay, this is notvery, very, you know, honed in.
(20:05):
I know there's a gazillionmillion apps and gadgets.
Right, the aura rings arereally good, because then that's
tailored to you, right, right,or or the watch.
For me, those didn't workbecause I'm like I can't have
anything on me, everything comesoff.
So, like I'm very sensitive tostimuli, so I couldn't have any
devices on me to track.
I was like you know what I don'tneed to track.
I know if I slept okay or not,I could tell in the morning.
(20:28):
Right, that's good enough fornow, you know, until until I get
more fancy, I don't know, butyeah, so thank you for all of
those and I love the point thatyou made about.
Okay, so if the percentages arenot so good or if you're not
tracking it per se with devices,but in the morning you get up
and you're still very tired,even though you were in bed for
like all these hours andsupposedly you were sleeping for
(20:50):
all of these hours, but youstill you get very, very tired.
Hmm, maybe that wasn't the bestsleep, right?
So how can I improve it?
You know, maybe the room needsto be cooler, maybe my pillow
needs to be thicker or softer orthis or that, like all those
little things.
Right, until you start hitting,like that little sweet spot.
Marvin Bee (21:08):
Right and it may take some time, but again,
consistency being willing tocontinue even when you don't
think it's working.
Yeah, it's like consistencybeing willing to continue even
when you don't think it'sworking.
Emma Viglucci (21:18):
Yeah, it's like okay, so I'm working on my sleep
.
So let me keep working on mysleep.
Let me keep cracking the codes,fine tuning, tweaking right and
staying on it.
Yeah, for sure.
Marvin Bee (21:30):
I like it.
I compare it to the game ofgolf.
So you know, most people thatplay golf will kind of admit
that there are those shots thatyou hit that are you're like, oh
, that was the shot that wasperfect, but yet you spend the
rest of the day.
How do I duplicate?
Emma Viglucci (21:51):
Right.
Marvin Bee (21:54):
And the grass and the angle, and then the club,
and that's what we do with whenit comes to things like sleep
and our health.
Emma Viglucci (22:02):
That's why we say it's a journey and it's not a
destination, because we'reconstantly tweaking and fine
tuning and getting better.
Yep, Right.
So I used to say which I thinkthat we are familiar with it the
phrase practice makes perfect.
But there is no such thing,right?
So somebody corrected me, orrather instructed me, and said
how about practice makesprogress?
(22:24):
And I was like Ooh, so I'vebeen quoting this guy for a
while now.
I love that.
Yes, we just keep gettingbetter and better, right.
Marvin Bee (22:31):
Yeah.
Emma Viglucci (22:32):
Very good.
So now you mentioned that partof your journey when we were
talking about yourselves, and inthe material you sent me that
there was emotional eating alsoas part of this thing, right?
So any thoughts about that.
As a therapist, of course, Iunderstand this concept, but for
our audience, what have yourlearnings been and your
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takeaways, what you're workingon with that?
What have you learned?
Marvin Bee (22:58):
Well, this is one of those places where I actually
had another expert on and Ishould probably let your
listeners know I myself not evenclose to an expert.
I don't pretend to be an expert, this is just my journey that
I'm documenting talking to otherpeople.
But Renee Jones is a coach thatcame on a while back and in my
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mind I always associatedemotional eating with, you know,
the Lifetime movie or theHallmark movie where you know
the person sitting at home inbed upset, that their date, you
know, stood them up or somethingalong those lines.
But emotional eating is so muchmore than that.
(23:42):
You know.
Stress is an emotion.
Emma Viglucci (23:45):
That's right.
Marvin Bee (23:45):
So if we're stressed at work or stressed in
relationships or anything else,that affects how we eat, how we
entertain ourselves is anotherthing.
So again, I'm a sports guy, soI watch a lot of sports on TV
and we're just so conditionedthat if we're in front of the TV
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there's got to be a bucket ofwings or some fries, or some
burgers, soda or beer.
That just goes along with that.
Emma Viglucci (24:18):
Well, you know how to watch TV.
I was going to say popcorn, butman, you know what you're doing
over there.
Marvin Bee (24:23):
It is sports, so it's either going to the bar or
trying to duplicate the bar atthe home Right right.
So that all plays a part of itas well.
So this whole emotional part ofour eating.
Now, you wouldn't think thatsitting in front of the TV
watching sports is part of theemotional part of it.
(24:44):
But how are you feeling whenyou're sitting in front of the
TV or you're out with your pals?
That's all part of the emotion.
You've got this adrenaline,you've got the dopamine, where
you're happy and excited andyou're just eating away.
So that was something that Ilearned that emotional eating is
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not just that sad ice creamfilled moment that we think
Absolutely.
Emma Viglucci (25:09):
Yeah, you know, I love that example, because
usually that's not how I hearthe example of emotional eating.
So that's a nice other additionto it.
And, yeah, you're making theconnection to this is how I have
fun, this is how I enjoy things, this is how I connect with
people, this is how you watchsports Like, this is how it was
exciting.
And all of those even positivefeelings get all connected to
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food, right, and so you need tohave the food to create the
whole experience and to have allthe fun, the connection, the
assignment, whatever theexperience, and so all those
associations are being made, andso there's emotional eating
involved in that.
That's interesting, I love that.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Marvin Bee (25:49):
Or if you're working late, throw in another pot of
coffee, order a pizza.
It's just part of the thingthat we have to adjust as part
of the emotional part of what wedo, as it relates to the eating
.
Emma Viglucci (26:04):
Yes, you know I'm going to add another angle on
this, and that is that we usefood for self-regulation, right
To moderate our feelings.
So if we are feeling anythingthat's sad, it's stress, not
good, upset, bored, you know weput a food in to self-soothe, to
self-regulate, like food iscomfort, so it's like okay, I'm
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okay, I'm not gonna die, I havefood.
You know, psychologicallythere's like a thing there and
so that's how we take care ofourselves with food.
Everything that, anything like,let me take care of ourselves
with food.
Anything like, let me take careof it with food.
And the more physiological sideof that is also sometimes we
confuse the hunger cues, right,like we're thirsty but we think
we're hungry, so we'reconstantly eating Meanwhile
(26:47):
we're actually thirsty.
Those cues are very hard todistinguish sometimes.
Marvin Bee (26:52):
Yes, they are.
Emma Viglucci (26:53):
Yeah, so many things.
I hear you so much nuance toall of this right, because we
could talk about the food, thehydration, the exercise, the
sleep, the relax and we didn'ttouch on that yet.
Like all the pillars forwellness and each one of them
has like a zillion little parts.
(27:14):
Like you go granular with thiswith this right and it could be
overwhelming.
So the thing is like I lovewhat you said much earlier to
just focus on like take it easy,you know like one or two things
and just consistency and niceand steady wins the race, right.
Marvin Bee (27:33):
Yeah.
Emma Viglucci (27:34):
Beautiful.
Okay, so the next thing that wewant to touch on was that the
body is an interconnected system, so it's not just a little body
just here, and if I do this,everything's perfect.
So tell us more about whatyou're thinking about that.
Marvin Bee (27:49):
Well, some of the things that I've been learning
with some of the specialists isI've had people that have come
on and talked about specifictypes of alternative lifestyles
I guess it's the best way todescribe it you know, looking at
functional medicine or lookingat something like Ayurveda,
(28:10):
which has been around a lotlonger than we know about, but
what all of these do is theylook at the body as a whole and
we tend to focus more on justthe one thing that we think is
wrong.
Right, well, I'm fat, so I'lljust fix that and everything
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will be fine.
Where it might be that otherparts of our lives could be
affecting that particular area,we talked about emotional eating
, where how we interact withother people, how we interact
with TV that's part of thatholistic approach and how we
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feed our bodies, how we feed ourminds and how we treat our body
and minds kind of has to belooked at from a whole
perspective.
There is a show that I listen tothat I'm trying to get her on
the show where she's talkedabout this low-tox lifestyle
when, yes, there's a lot ofthings in our food that are
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making our body unhealthy, thatare making our body unhealthy,
but there's a lot of things inour environment where some
people have this weirdassociation with smells or
touches or sounds.
It's hard for me to put it inwords, but I've learned from all
of these practices that youhave to look at the body as a
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whole, because the symptom, thatyou have to look at the body as
a whole, because the symptomthat we have might be caused by
something completely differentthan what we think it is.
So that's one of the thingsthat I haven't quite grasped it
yet, but I'm learning that wehave to look at our body in a
multidimensional, holistic way.
Emma Viglucci (30:04):
I love that.
You know, at first I thoughtyou were going to say okay, so
if my stomach hurts, I havesomething wrong with my stomach,
right.
Or if I have headaches, okay,something's wrong with my brain,
right.
And then, but there might beother things, like what are you
putting in your body?
What are you eating?
Or maybe hormones are off, ormaybe other neurochemicals are
off, or whatever.
There might be other thingsgoing on in your body that are
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creating symptoms, in particularorgans or parts of your body.
So I thought that's where youwere going.
But then when you suggested,like, well, it's not just the
body, the body is part ofeverything else too, like
there's a whole context to yourlife, it's not just your body.
So that is so beautiful.
That's a fantastic way oflooking at this, right, because
usually when something's wrongwith the body, it's not well, it
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manifests as a physical thing,but that's the end product.
There's all of the things thatprobably affected it in the
first place, correct?
So I love that.
The whole thing with emotionsdefinitely they get stuck in the
body.
There's all kinds of thingsgoing on interrelational things,
stress, like all kinds ofthings.
They show up as symptoms in thebody, right and I love that.
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So from your side, when you'relooking at it holistically like
that, any thoughts on whatsystems are impacting the body,
as far as from your ownexperience for yourself or
things that you have heard fromyour guests?
Marvin Bee (31:27):
So I mean, I've heard a lot of things that I
have not yet experienced myself,so I'm in the process of trying
to figure out.
Am I going to go and get testedand figure out?
You mentioned hormones.
There are things, when it comesto hormones and vitamin
deficiencies and all of thosethings that we just don't think
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of, that we may need to go andfind out.
Okay, is our body deficient inone of these areas?
And yeah, sometimes it might be, change your diet to get those
deficiencies.
Sometimes it's something wherewe might actually need to get
medical help to get thatdeficiency taken care of.
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There was another story that Imentioned the smell.
So there was a lady that gothelped by one of my people I
haven't had them on the show yetso I'm not going to say their
name but she was telling me thestory of somebody that for years
would have these headaches notat work, not out and about, but
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at home, and they could notfigure out why until somebody
came in and started looking attheir environment.
It turns out that they had beengetting these candles for years
and every night they would gohome and light candles because
they loved the smell and itturns out these particular
candles were triggeringsomething in their body and
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giving them pain.
And it got the candles removed,the headaches went away.
I mean, it's it's.
It's weird that we would hearsomething like that and most of
it, most of us would think comeon, really candles.
Emma Viglucci (33:15):
I believe you.
Marvin Bee (33:18):
But there are things in candles now that probably
shouldn't be in candles.
I mean, vanilla doesn't becomea candle.
Emma Viglucci (33:26):
Right, natural, that's right.
Oh, absolutely, I'm forgettingthe name for them.
But, yeah, definitely there'sstuff in candles that you're not
supposed to be inhaling.
So there's a healthier versionof candles that you're supposed.
If you love candles, you couldget.
There's other things, things inall of the places.
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It could be a rabbit hole man,let me tell you, rabbit hole.
Very good.
So, for overall health, foroverall wellbeing, any
recommendations for having aholistic approach to your life,
to your approach to health andwellness?
Marvin Bee (34:08):
In terms of an overall approach.
I think the last thing Imentioned just looking at your
body as a whole is not only agood place to start, but
something that you have torevisit over and over again.
Something that you have torevisit over and over again and
I was trying to think of thisword before we started recording
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but be more accepting ofyourself.
Emma Viglucci (34:35):
Compassionate.
Marvin Bee (34:37):
That's a good word, yes, Accepting.
And we don't have to lookperfect to be healthy, live
happy, which are the mantras ofmy show.
The thing is to be healthy, youknow, and be happy.
So I may not have to look likeI did 20 years ago in order to
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feel like I did 20 years ago.
So I need to adapt some thingswhile adjusting others and being
able to realize that it's notjust the body, it's also the
mind, it's also the spirit, thesoul.
All of those things play acombined role in what we do.
Emma Viglucci (35:24):
Yeah, exactly so.
Have you integrated any habitsyet?
I don't mean to put you on thespot and if not, what are you
thinking about integrating interms of for the mind, for mind
health, mental health and forspiritual health or spiritual
well-being?
Because mind, body and spirit,right.
(35:46):
So the body you're working, andwhat are the two other areas to
bring it full circle?
Have you given them any thoughtyet?
Marvin Bee (35:53):
I'll tell you the things that I've already done
actively.
Emma Viglucci (35:56):
Okay, perfect, yes.
Marvin Bee (35:57):
So you know, in addition to adjusting, you know
what I eat, the diet.
Part of it adjusting myschedule.
Yes, so that I'm not working.
You know what I eat, the diet.
Part of it adjusting myschedule.
Emma Viglucci (36:06):
Yes.
Marvin Bee (36:07):
So that I'm not working you know, those 12, 14,
16 hours that I'm getting mysleep.
But also, what am I doingduring those daytime hours?
More breaks during the workday,so that I can simply give my
body a chance to just, you know,settle for a few minutes, get a
(36:31):
little bit of recharge and thengo again.
Now I've not done anything withregards to meditation or
anything like that, but findingtimes to rest within the workday
has been huge and I think italleviates some of the stress.
The mind part of it is justlike.
(36:54):
This is going to sound horribleto some people, but I think
most will get it.
The type of work that I do.
If something doesn't happen,nobody's going to die.
So it sounds harsh, but I'mjust an IT guy and, yes, a
(37:14):
computer may crash, a mouse maybreak, a piece of software
doesn't.
Emma Viglucci (37:18):
That feels like the end of the world, Marv, when
that happens.
Marvin Bee (37:21):
It does they call and you know I've got to get
this done, or you know, and mostof the times I have to just
stop myself and say, okay,what's the worst thing that
would happen if we can't getthis fixed right away?
Most of the time it's not asbig as they thought, now.
Granted, there are some timeswhere I've got a project that
(37:43):
I've got to get done in fiveminutes.
I worked with a lot ofattorneys, so of course
everything is critical to themGot to get it to the judge right
now.
But I do what I can and I don'tstress myself out about it.
And if I can get it done, great.
If not, I'm not going to beatmyself up Because at the end of
(38:05):
the day, nobody's going to die.
Emma Viglucci (38:09):
Yes, that's what a beautiful idea of like taking
life in stride, right, like notbeing so serious about the
little things, like most of itis not a matter of life and
death and most of it can wait acouple more minutes or another
day or a couple hours orwhatever it is.
And if we were to take thatstock and kind of like give
(38:31):
ourselves perspective onwhatever's freaking us out in
the moment?
Most of it is like not a bigdeal, right, most of the things
are not big deals.
Even the biggest trigger, thebiggest offense by your partner,
usually is not a big deal,usually, right, there are things
that people do, but for themost part, most things in our
life we could take a step backand be like it's going to be
(38:53):
okay, right, and if we could begentle with ourselves and the
thing that's happening, thenwe'll operate better and take
care of it easier and better.
Yeah, anyway, right, I.
And better.
Yeah, anyway, right, I love it.
Yeah, that's a great stressmanagement technique giving
yourself some perspective sothat you don't go, so you don't
take yourself on a ride andfreak yourself out for no reason
(39:16):
.
I love that, perfect.
And so what are some thingsthat you're thinking of adding
to your whole journey here Anycool habits that you think
you'll be integrating in thenear future.
What are the things that arekind of having you curious?
Marvin Bee (39:33):
So I can tell you what the wife would love for me
to do.
Okay, let's start there.
Take more vacations, sure, andthe types of vacations where the
computer doesn't go with, sothat, while I'm away, work is
away completely.
Because we have a tendency asIT people that, regardless of
(39:57):
where we are because we can workremotely, anything that comes
up we're going to stop whatwe're doing and try to take care
of it.
So, again, that separation andallowing for things to just
happen.
Obviously there needs to be abackup in place to where, if I
can't take care of it, somebodycan, of course.
(40:17):
Yeah, so that's probably one ofthe big things we are.
One of the big things we are.
So we're committed to start, Ibelieve, next week or the week
after, to clean eating.
Emma Viglucci (40:32):
Okay, where we're looking at all the aspects of
whether it's organic orgluten-free or GMO.
Marvin Bee (40:53):
I mean it's looking at all of those things and
finding out, okay, how clean can?
We eat and still enjoy what weeat.
Emma Viglucci (40:58):
Right, yeah, that's a big journey, right.
You know, like I said before,for each thing there's so much
nuance, right, so many thingsthat can be done for each thing.
So that's a great approach ofremoving all of the toxicity
from our food, to begin with,right, and then anything that's
inflammatory like we said alsoearlier, everybody's different.
(41:21):
So gluten doesn't sit well withme, dairy not so much also, so
some things I have cleaned frommy diet, but there's all the
things like shellfish, peanuts,soy, it's like, oh, like there's
like a few things that arereally inflammatory.
Eggs, like some things thatjust people say, like people who
eat really, really, reallyclean, just don't eat any of
(41:41):
this inflammatory food, right?
So when you start removing allthat stuff, then it becomes
really challenging.
Okay, so what do I eat?
And so it's a matter of likefinding a healthy version and
then not an inflammatory version.
That's what keeps the weightstuck, a little bit Like when
we're eating food that inflamesthe body, right, so the body's
not optimally functioning tocleansing itself and digesting
(42:01):
and getting all the nutrientsinto cleansing itself and
digesting and getting all thenutrients.
But, yeah, so kudos to you andthe wife for taking on that big,
big goal.
I like it.
Marvin Bee (42:11):
That's a big goal.
Emma Viglucci (42:13):
That's a nice one , Very good, All right, Marvin.
Any last minute offers to theaudience like a message, like an
inspiration for them to go benot unhealthy.
Marvin Bee (42:26):
Well, the biggest thing I would probably say is
the premise of my show.
At first I thought was to justdocument my journey and figure
out what worked.
But it's turning into thisjourney of finding out what is
unhealthy, regardless of what itis, and reducing or eliminating
(42:49):
it, whether it's, you know, thediet, the exercise, because,
again, just because you're doingsomething that you think is
healthy, it may not be.
Some people exercise in anunhealthy way.
Yep, we eat a lot of times inan unhealthy way, we have
relationships in an unhealthyway, and all of that plays a
(43:12):
role into what we do.
So the concept now has beenfind all the things that are
unhealthy and either reduce oreliminate them and replace them
with something that is healthy.
Emma Viglucci (43:26):
I love it.
I'm going to put you on thespot.
Since you mentionedrelationships.
You got to be careful what youask for, emma, but any thoughts
on things that you know toremove from relationships that
are unhealthy, what would youoffer our audience?
Remove?
Marvin Bee (43:48):
So probably the one thing to remove would be our
image of what we think theperfect relationship is.
Emma Viglucci (43:59):
Oh, look at you See, there's wisdom there.
Marvin Bee (44:01):
So some of the work that I've done um with one of
the guests on the show has beento look at when we started our
relationships what, what was itthat we expected from the other
person, along with what is itthat we expect to provide them
(44:23):
in the relationship?
So that has been now just togive listeners a perspective.
I've been married to my wifenow 20 years.
I've known her for 27.
And I'm not going to say it'sperfect, but we've gone through
those times where it's like,well, you're not listening to me
(44:44):
and you're not taking thisseriously.
But when you step back andthink about, okay, what is it
that we expect?
Did we tell the other personthat we expected that?
Emma Viglucci (44:56):
Exactly.
Marvin Bee (44:59):
Did we ask them what they should expect of us, them
what they should expect of us.
So it's been an interestingthing now to kind of sit here,
you know, 20 years into amarriage, as if we're starting
over to be like okay when I whenI say this to you, what does it
really mean?
Emma Viglucci (45:16):
Oh gosh, music to my ears, yes, right.
And also I love that you saidwhat are they?
What are the?
What can they expect from me?
But also, do I know what theirexpectation of me is Like?
They might expect things Idon't even know right, and I
could very easily do thosethings as I'm no skin off my
back.
It's reasonable.
But I just don't know.
And I'm letting you down overand over because I don't know
right.
Marvin Bee (45:37):
Or you should know.
I'm not gonna tell you, youshould just know.
Emma Viglucci (45:41):
Don't even get me started with that.
Yes, you should read me,because if you love me, you
would know.
Marvin Bee (45:48):
Right.
Emma Viglucci (45:50):
If.
Marvin Bee (45:51):
I read minds maybe.
Emma Viglucci (45:53):
Yeah, very good, terrific.
So a lot of wisdom in there andI love that you're on this
journey and I am so proud foryou for having all these amazing
guests that you're bringing onfor your own journey, for your
own learning, and then you'resharing that, because a lot of
us do that on the side, forourselves, right, but we don't
create a platform or contextwhere we could share what we're
(46:14):
learning with others.
So I definitely subscribe tothat idea and I commend anybody
else who does as well.
So I love it that you're onthat journey and that you're as
you're learning, you're sharingit.
So that's amazing, so kudos.
Marvin Bee (46:26):
Well, I'm sharing it , and then I'm also sharing the
voices of the people that arecoming on the show.
A lot of them are in the midstof their own journey, where
they're finding out what worksfor them, and they're you know,
some of them are, you knowcoaches themselves, and so
they're looking for people thatthey can share their knowledge
with.
So, along with sharing myjourney, I'm sharing a platform
(46:50):
for them so that they can, youknow, get the word out about
what's worked for them andbasically try to help each other
out.
Emma Viglucci (46:59):
Yeah, exactly that's what I meant to say.
Maybe I didn't say it fully.
Right that in your journey,you're also bringing in your
learnings, like the people thatare helping you learn, right?
So that's so good, it's like awin-win-win, right?
They get to share your learning.
You're sharing with others.
Other people are learning sobeautiful, so amazing, so good,
perfect.
So, marvin, why don't you sharewith our audience where they
(47:21):
could find you?
Tell them more about thispodcast and your social media,
or rather just a podcast, andthen I'll put the links in the
show notes.
Marvin Bee (47:28):
Well, everything starts with the website, so
unhealthypodcastcom, and onthere you'll find the past
episodes that I've done.
You'll also find all the linksand a contact page where they
can reach out to me.
Emma Viglucci (47:42):
Fabulous, Amazing Mr.
Thank you so much can reach outto me.
Fabulous, Amazing Mr.
Thank you so much for sharingtime with me.
A pleasure having you on andlearning from you and hearing
your wisdom and about how yourjourney is going so fun.
Thank you again for being here.
Marvin Bee (47:55):
Well, you're welcome .
Thanks for having me and goodjourneys to you as well.
Emma Viglucci (48:00):
Thank you and to the listeners until the next one
.
Bye.
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