October 20, 2021 • 59 mins
Episode 42 features Hannegan, mom to Mr. Brooks Roseberry the child actor who was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes 3 years ago.
THIS FAMILY OF FIVE IS SO FUN! The parents and their three boys are ALL heavily involved in the arts.
Brooks, the youngest and the T1D, enjoys being on stage, being in films, dancing, choreographing fight scenes, doing stunt work and dancing. Clearly, he has not let type 1 diabetes slow him down even for a second.
You're going to love listening in on our conversation as Hannegan tells us all about what it's like to live in a house with a T1D who loves to perform! Enjoy!
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(00:00):
This is episode 42 of the sugarmamas podcast.
And today I get to talk withHannigan Hannigan, his mom to
Brooks Roseberry, who was achild actor.
That's been living with type onediabetes for the past three
years.
You guys are going to lovehearing about life with this
family, their youngest sonBrooks, who's the T one D.
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So many fun theatricalactivities.
He does stage acting, film,acting he's into stunt
choreography.
He dances, they have their ownninja warrior course in their
backyard.
The list goes on and on, and heis not the only one in the
family who is involved in the.
Their entire family is creative,artistic, theatrical, musical,
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or something along those lines.
I'm just going to go ahead andtell you now that you're
definitely going to want tofollow them on both Instagram
and Tik TOK.
Their handle is at Hanniganunderscore Mr.
Brooks.
Alright, sit back and enjoy.
Hannigan is going to tell us allabout what it's like living with
a kid with type one who loves toperform.
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Enjoy.
Katie (01:11):
You're listening to the sugar mamas podcast, a show
designed for moms and caregiversof type one diabetics here.
You'll find a community oflike-minded people who are
striving daily to keep theirkids safe, happy, and healthy in
the ever-changing world of typeone.
I'm your host and fellow T one Dmom, Katie Roseboro.
(01:40):
Before we get started.
I need you to know that nothingyou hear on the sugar mamas
podcast should be consideredmedical advice.
Please be safe, be smart, andalways consult your physician
before making changes to the wayyou manage type one diabetes.
Thanks.
Hannegan (01:57):
Okay.
Hi everybody.
Hi Katie.
Thank you so much for asking youto be part of this.
It's been a lot of fun toconnect with other families and
moms and individuals over thelast year.
Through Instagram.
So thanks for this opportunity.
My name is Hannigan and I havethree sons and my T one D is our
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youngest, too many people knowhim on social media as Mr.
Brooks.
So we have three boys ages, 17,15 and 12, and Brooks is our
youngest.
And this week actually will behis third diver three on Friday.
So we started Three years ago,very unexpectedly.
(02:40):
I grew up actually with my mom,insulin dependent as a diabetic.
And so I I'm in that camp of, Ithought I knew things about
diabetes because I grew upwatching my mom take shots and
deal with that.
And it, it's amazing how muchyou don't realize is going on
with the non-stop.
(03:00):
Digital lens required to carefor somebody who is dealing with
type one diabetes.
And so it's breakfast diagnosed.
It was a great bondingexperience that we never asked
for with grandma she engaged inthat process with us and she was
right along our side, alongsidewith us as we learned how.
Do all of the things she'd beendoing for 40 years and they
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would lay out their insulin pensnext to each other on the table
before having a meal together.
And she said about six monthsafter he was diagnosed, she had
her best A1C that she'd had in30 years.
I must be paying more attentionto it.
Now I've got a little onewatching me.
Katie (03:40):
So Brooks diagnosis motivated her to take It, up a
as far as her management,
Hannegan (03:46):
It, did she?
Yeah.
You get comfortable and you findyour norms and, you know, she
doesn't deal with that.
She's been amazed by all of the,the newfangled technology works
with the bionic boy with aDexcom and an Omnipod insulin
pumps.
And she still does her MDImanagement.
She's just shocked all the time.
She does her long acting.
(04:07):
Her short acting insulin andthat's it.
So she is fascinated by all ofthe medical technology that's
come along.
She's so glad that it exists,but she's also like, well, I've
got my own ways of doing things.
I don't know if I can adapt thismany decades into all these new,
new tools that are available.
Katie (04:26):
I know, not even a CGM.
Have you talked her into a CGMyet?
Hannegan (04:30):
We've talked about it and she says, I can tell what my
sugar is.
She can just feel it.
So for better or worse, youknow, she is, I feel like way
more tuned into her highs andlows than Brooks at least is at
this age.
Cause he doesn't maybe have topay as much attention to the
physical sensations becauseyou've got alarms going off.
(04:50):
That's why I say for better orworse, but I'm grateful for
those technologies for sure.
Katie (04:55):
I know I've the podcast before, but part of me feels
like it might less stressful tohave it some days, cause you're
kind of like glued to it andalways watching it.
But then, but I don't, I don'ttry I'll just keep it,
Hannegan (05:09):
Yeah, the alarm's going off into the love, hate
relationships after my myself,how grateful I am.
Every time sugar mate calls meat 2:00 AM to go do something.
I, I curse.
And then I say, thank youtechnology for allowing me to
care for my child.
Better.
So love, hate relationship.
Katie (05:26):
absolutely.
So I'm curious his diagnosisstory with your mom being a type
one diabetic.
Did she, was she the one thatkind of picked up on signs and
symptoms?
Or how did that go down?
Hannegan (05:37):
You know, I would love to say that I was tuned into all
of the things because of havinga, you know, an experience
growing up, watching it, but nowit caught us all off guard.
Nobody was expecting it.
And I think, you know, we, weshare our experience with it
whenever we can, because I thinkit's so easy to miss.
(05:57):
And especially if you have akiddo who is an active kid, you
can explain a way of so many ofthe symptoms.
And so.
Works with diagnosed onSeptember 24th.
But as we tried to retrace oursteps of how did we miss this?
How did we not see this kind of.
That there were some signs thatstarted probably June or July
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prior to this diagnosis.
We had a few months ofincreasing what we now know
were, were indicators andsymptoms, but the school year in
our area starts the first weekof August.
And he was doing a musical atthe time at the high school.
And so he was nine years old atthe time and he is a dancer and
an actor.
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And so he is used to being very.
And this was a very rigoroushigh school production of
Matilda, the musical, which is afunny sentence to say Matilda,
the rigorous physical activity,but it was, it's a lot of
dancing for the kiddos.
And so he was dancing two orthree hours a day.
And it's August and it's thebeginning of a new school year.
So of course he's exhausted andthirsty and he appeared to be
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losing weight, which wasconcerning because he has a bit
of a, he describes himself as aspaghetti noodle body type.
He's a very, very slim kiddo.
So he just started lookingskinnier and skinnier and.
Had a checkup schedule becausehe had, you know, kind of
shadows under the eyes and wasjust looking really rough.
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We're like this musical istaking it out of him.
And I don't know if it's a momintuition thing or.
Growing up watching my own mom,but I did have in the back of my
mind, the slightest curiosity,if we might be dealing with the
diabetes thing and I'll neverforget it, it was a Monday at
school and I am also we're alltheater people in our health.
So I'm a high school theaterdirector as well, but this is a
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different high school.
So Brookstone.
You know, doing a show at a, ata neighboring high school, but
I'm at my own theater rehearsal.
Afterschool.
My husband came to pick upBrooks to take him to an
appointment at like one 30.
And it's one of those days youremember every minute of the
day, your kid is diagnosed witha thing that changes your life
trajectory and, and your.
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I sent a post-it with my husbandthat said, ask about type one
diabetes.
And I didn't even want to say itout loud because I am a little
prone to overthinking things andsuch and can be a bit neurotic.
And I own that.
So I'm like, I didn't even wantto be ridiculous and say that
out loud in front of him,because of course I'm being
(08:28):
ridiculous.
Set the post-it with thehusband, husband.
Yeah, slide that over to thepediatrician.
And he said, she looked at itand kind of raised their
eyebrows at him, but it waslike, there's a little finger
panic.
And she left the room, came backin a minute or so later and said
that can't be right when youneed to check something again.
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And Brooks has no idea what'sgoing on.
We've never talked aboutdiabetes other than yeah.
Grandma takes shots and that.
That was the extent of hisexperience at that point.
And so she finger pricked againand his sugar was over 600.
And so he, you know, then you gointo the slow-mo next few hours
there, but she said right nowyour fastest route to the
(09:11):
hospital is just getting yourcar and drive.
I can call an ambulance, butright now, are you more
comfortable just in Jason?
My husband is like, oh, we'regetting in the car, calling me
at school.
And then they went over.
The bridge, we're near a bigcity that has a children's
hospital.
So over the bridge to thechildren's hospital, and I get
the phone call while they'redriving.
And he says, Burke says you wereright.
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He has type one diabetes.
We're going to the hospital.
I don't know what's going on andmeet us there.
And I remember just walking outof my high school theater
rehearsal, going 40 teamslooking at me going, I have to
leave.
I'll see you all.
We'll see you all later, I'mgoing to leave.
And we were a very tight knit,amazing school community.
(09:54):
And another teacher jumped in.
Everyone's go, go, go, and getto the house.
I can go through that wholeprocess then, and then, you
know, you check it on a Monday,you'd get a life-changing
diagnosis.
They send you home on aWednesday telling you all these
things you have to do to keepyour kid alive.
And you're going, this is real.
This is how this happens.
I am not quiet.
(10:15):
I can't talk.
What do you mean?
I'm going to be givinginjections to keep my child
alive.
And so I, you don't know.
Lots of other medical things tocompare it to.
But I do feel like that was sucha shock to be given such an
enormous responsibility.
And what felt like, I mean, theydid a nice job training us, but
(10:37):
this was it.
Didn't.
I was like, no, we need to stayhere for at least two months
till we learn how to do this.
So, so off we go on a Wednesday,but Brooks bless his heart that
night he's in the house.
And he is very emotional thathe's missing dance,
choreography, rehearsal thatnight.
They're learning one of the bigsongs for Matilda.
(10:59):
And how is he going to get to bein the phone because he has to
get to rehearsal and we'regoing, oh honey, oh honey, we're
going to hold a minute here.
We're going to let your directorand choreographer know.
And this is most important rightnow is slowing down and just
getting oriented.
And he was back at rehearsal aweek later learned that
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choreography that he missed andgot right back in there.
And as absurd as saddle felt, Ithink there was something really
stabilizing and probablyconfidence boosting about
getting right back into liferight away.
And I'm not saying that's aroutine that works for everybody
because when I look back and Igo, oh, right away, we were in a
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show and doing all the thingsand.
My husband and I were performingin a show at the time.
I'm like, wait a minute.
Not only was he in a show, myhusband and I are in a show that
opened the Wednesday.
He got out of the hospitalopening night
Katie (11:58):
left the and went and got onstage.
Hannegan (12:01):
and perform.
Yup.
Katie (12:03):
goodness.
Hannegan (12:04):
we're never in shows together.
We take turns.
We're like, are you kidding me?
We're in a show.
Together is in my husband's thelead.
I'm like the secondary, likesupporting lead.
So I'm like, do you use.
These are the things that I'llshow up on opening night and
I'll know my stuff and it'll befine.
Katie (12:19):
Oh, my
Hannegan (12:19):
And again, I look back and go, holy crap, that was out
of control.
What were we doing?
But you know, I feel like theuniverse has a hand in things
sometimes.
And I feel like it was such ablessing to be foisted right
back into the things we weredoing, including a trip to New
York to the city a few weekslater.
And we were like, should wecancel?
(12:40):
We don't know what we're doing.
Should we cancel?
And we decided to go ahead andgo for it.
And right away, we had toperform those two weekends.
We had to get my husband'smother.
So the other grandma involvedwith Brooks's care immediately
out of the gate.
And it was so scary.
But my, my point was, I think,had we been enabled to just stay
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at home and hole up?
I feel like our fear would havebeen so hard to move through
and.
It would have been terrifying tolet someone else care for him or
to go and do anything again.
Cause it all would've felt soscary with this new set of
circumstances.
But we were, you know, we werein a train that had already left
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the station.
So we had to keep going, keepthe balls in the air.
And a lot of confidence camefrom that right out of the gate.
We wouldn't have necessarilychosen or planned it that way,
but when I look back.
I'm grateful that it all kind ofunfolded the way it did.
It was going to have to happen.
It was a trial by fire that has,has shaped.
(13:43):
I think our actions since then,
Katie (13:45):
I, oh, no, it definitely does.
And I think that, know, I thinkevery family is different.
I think that that would havetotally what am I trying to say?
I think that would have totallystressed some to be involved in
all these things, but I feellike the people.
Yeah.
But I feel like the peoplemight've really thrown for a
loop probably wouldn't in allthose place.
(14:06):
You know what I mean?
they might've might not havebeen involved in like, you know,
Two different major productionstage productions at the same
time.
So I feel, I just feel likeeverybody has a different
tolerance what they life and,you you know, if you need to
cancel everything.
Yeah,
Hannegan (14:24):
Exactly.
And sometimes that's absolutelywhat you should do.
So I definitely say that that isnot the way I would necessarily
recommend anyone diagnose goabout things.
But if there is a lesson there,I guess the lesson that I hope
could be universal would be tonot let fear rule your world
with your kiddo and what arethey?
Very scary.
(14:44):
Unpredictable.
Circumstance.
So type one diabetes, you can beso good at it.
And then people who are go withit, we laugh.
So like there's no such thing asbeing good.
It changes all the time,especially if your kiddos are
little and still growing.
I joke that Brooks has adifferent body every week right
now.
So his, his numbers and hisneeds change every week.
(15:06):
And you really don't know untilyou deal with it up close and
you see how very difficult itis.
So people type one, diabeticsare rockstars and the people who
care for them are doing so muchall day every day and make it
look you see, but we know whatthe labor looks like.
So it's very, very demanding.
Katie (15:28):
gosh.
So demanding and people reallyhave no clue and I don't them to
a clue unless they're living it.
I feel like people get up inarms a little bit sometimes.
know, when people maybequestions that seem ignorant,
but I mean, they don't, justdon't know they're living it
every Like we are we see it upclose 24 7.
I love what you said about notfear your decisions.
(15:49):
That's definitely our mottostoo.
And
Hannegan (15:51):
Yeah, because you could easily let cause it is
scary.
You could easily let that ruleyour world.
So you have to actively kind ofpush back on it and make sure.
You get to do the things youwant to do and let your kid
empower them to not be scared ofwhat they're dealing with.
And it's we try to work togetheras a team to do.
Katie (16:11):
I know had to listen not too long ago and asked me about
vacation.
She had planned with her fairlynew, newly diagnosed type one.
And she was kind of thinkingwhat do I the trip?
feel like we shouldn't go.
No, say whatever you just go onthe know it's scary and know
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like you know you're doing, butlike do not, I would not show
your child that like, you know,we're all these things just
because you have type one.
I, I told her, I like, look, asyou boxes, and candy, like you
are going come out of thing.
Oh.
alive and well.
And kids probably having greattime, like the numbers probably
(16:53):
aren't going to great, but.
Like just live life and you canfigure out later.
Hannegan (17:00):
They'll come, they will come.
Katie (17:01):
exactly.
Well, tell me about Brooks's asbecause he, mean, what I see on
he does all sorts of He's actor.
He does a lot work.
like into ninja warrior courseSo I want kind of want to know a
little bit about everything, butwhen did he start acting?
I mean, obviously he was nine, Iwhen he was in that show.
So before then.
Hannegan (17:23):
Right.
Well, it, you know, and he andI, I was showing him your
questions this morning and wewere getting a kick out of it.
Just kind of like thinkingabout.
When did this start and youknow, he's he's at all.
Three of our sons arefascinating, unique individuals
where we feel very fortunate toget to parents, to them.
They are wild men and they'vegot a lot of different things
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going on.
But Brooks, you know, happens tobe the one that people might
know because some of hisactivities that he engaged us
with, you know, demand anaudience.
So you can infer what you likefrom that.
He's the baby of the family.
They'd be, the family tend tolike it, but.
So we started doing our socialmedia escapades, like so many
folks did during the pandemicand we, our school went virtual
(18:09):
and we were virtual for a goodyear and a half.
We just went physically backinto the building this last
month.
And so we're a house full oftheater people, as I said.
And so.
Theater people stuck at homewithout an audience need some
creative outlets.
So that's where we ended up kindof teaming up and having a lot
of fun on first pick talk, andthen later Instagram, and now we
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kind of juggle both and have funwith it.
But he, the two of us are theextroverts of the household.
So there are five of us, but myhusband and our older two sons
are very much fine without anaudience.
They would prefer to do theircreative endeavor.
Behind the themes are in thevisual arts world.
So Brooks and RPS in a pub.
(18:51):
So we were climbing the wall,stuck at home and hence the
social media fun, which has beena really fun bonding and
creative outlet for us.
So go figure that's one of thefew silver linings of the,
what's been a very challengingyear.
So with the pandemic anyway.
So when did he get into acting?
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I asked him that the throat andhe was like, huh, well, oh, I
first put, you know, like alittle old man.
He's 12 years old way back inthe day.
He said, remember I waschampioned beauty and the beast.
And so his first his firsttheater production, he was three
years old.
And.
He was, it was at my school.
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I was directing beauty and thebeast, and we're like, we need
an ADB darling chip to cue thereaction at the end when he's my
mama, you know, I'm a boy again.
And so I should have known, thisis the moment we've created.
A future thespian becausehearing that crowd go and you're
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a little freer, forget it.
It was, that was a done deal atthat point.
But really it was probably evenprior to that he said, well,
probably you all.
Because my husband and I've metin college 25 years ago we were
both musical theater,performance majors since, so we
met and built our world arounddoing showtunes together.
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And such, we're both fingers andactors and now, and now both of
us prefer to direct and I alsomusical direct and teach other
people to sing.
And we find a lot of joy andpurpose in yeah, helping others
to find their joy on stage andto, to find their talents and
such.
So.
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All three of our boys have grownup surrounded by theater
productions because daddy usedto be a high school theater
director too.
So mommy be teaching voicelessons in one room and daddy in
the next room at school would bedirecting the play.
Or I was pregnant with all threeof them and in a show all three
times.
So the oldest I was doing secretgarden, the middle and other
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show Brooks and other show.
And so we.
Even in utero, they weresurrounded by show tunes.
Cause if I wasn't on stage, Iwas playing piano and singing
and teaching other people tosing show tunes.
So they all came out with jazzhands instantly, but we had to
have very funny conversationswith each of them, probably
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around five or six when they hadto have the realization that
what do you mean everybodydoesn't sing?
Because their experience of thepeople in their home and the
people who came and hung outwith us or going to school and
seeing us, teaching everybodysang and dance.
And that was what it meant to bea human.
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And I think what a beautiful wayto look at the world that the
world is full of people, singingand dancing and working through
emotions on stage.
That's how you do it.
So,
Katie (21:51):
love it.
I would love it.
If people actually live lifelike a musical, like just all of
a just broke out into song anddance.
I think the world would be muchhappier place.
Hannegan (22:00):
I'm telling him we would work it out.
You do the power ballads, you dothe angry, you can do it all.
The whole range of emotion canbe sung and we would all be a
lot healthier for.
So, uh, so Brooks truly, youknow, was going to shows and
seeing things and sitting inrehearsals, you know, from the
moment he was.
And a baby carrier, you know,heading to things.
(22:22):
And so beauty and the beast withhis first time actually
performing.
And then he would go to littlecamps and workshops and things
like that.
And so his trajectory is, youknow, he, all three of our kids
have been great teachers to usin terms of.
Are very much a follow the childkind of family.
(22:43):
We're a Montessori family aswell.
We go to a Montessori.
I teach at and my sons go to aMontessori school and that's a
whole other podcast, butMontessori philosophy, if you
had to boil it down to onesentence is follow the child.
And it's all about empoweringand cultivating individual
interests and pursuits andincorporating those into their
(23:05):
education.
I can see the impact thatMontessori education has had on
them as curious young people whoknow how to question and pursue
information.
And so Brooks, as we go back,you know, circling back here you
mentioned he has all thesevarious interests and things
that you will get to see alittle window into, through
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social media, but all thatcuriosity comes from.
His educational background.
And so when he's wondering aboutsomething, he will follow that
wild hair and exhaust himselfcreatively through research and
studying people.
Thank goodness for technology.
Um, when I look at YouTube andwhat I would have done with
YouTube 30 years ago, cause Iwas that way, but we didn't have
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the resources.
Then you had to go to thelibrary and get an encyclopedia.
You got one paragraph, if youwere lucky and now.
Through Instagram and YouTubeand tick talk.
If you want to learn how to doevery kind of stunt fall under
the sun or how to do fightchoreography, you have access to
the pros and they're sharingtheir passions and the things
that they know how to do, theyshare them.
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And then the next generation canstudy it.
And so he is a Renaissance manin that way.
But we are theater people.
We are not film actors.
So Brooke's crossed over intothis other world.
That's been a lot of fun tolearn about because it's all
acting, but theater people andstage performers are often,
(24:33):
especially musical theater,stage performers.
We're a very different kind of.
Energy, then the subtle tworequired of a film.
So me, I would be a hot mess onfilm because I just there's too
much happening too much space,too much everywhere energy, but
Brooks was one of those kiddoswho can adapt and can pivot
between the two worlds reallywell.
(24:55):
And so he's been dancing anddoing theater camps and things
since he was 80 bitty.
And then he.
We got an opportunity to sub in,at a professional Shakespeare
production when he was fixed, hegot to do one performance.
That was it.
It was a production of aMidsummer night's dream.
And there's a changeling boy,for those of you who are
(25:17):
Shakespeare fans, you're like,oh yeah, yeah.
To Tanya and Oprah on they'refighting over the boy.
So he got the sub in one nightfor this kiddo and we were we
were nervous.
We're like, well, he doesn'tappear to.
Nurse or anything, but he's atiny child and this is a huge
outdoor performance space.
And the role required him to bethe first person on stage.
(25:40):
He had to come out and hislittle Victorian nightcap and
long night dress and come on outand hit all these various marks
has opened up this treasure boxand do all these things.
He screws up the whole thing.
And we're not saying any ofthat, you know, we've got our
actor faces on our shore.
Yes, honey.
Have fun.
(26:00):
Oh my gosh.
And then at the end of the show,the last person on stage with
this actor is this wonderful manwho played puck, who had like
horns.
And he was really kind ofcreepy, magical looking.
And it's three hours passed atthat time.
You know, 10
Katie (26:15):
gosh.
Hannegan (26:15):
Are you kidding me?
Six years old.
He had the best side of hislife.
He loved it.
He hit all of his marks, butmost importantly, he loved
hanging out with the actressbackstage.
He brought along his doctor whobook and his book about world
war II.
And they talked about world warII and Dr.
Who the whole night and thesewonderful professionally.
(26:39):
We're awesome to him.
And I, I do feel like thingsjust kind of happen how they're
supposed to, that led to anotherfriend reached out and said, oh,
I need to do a photo shoot.
I need a kid for this magazine.
And I know you've got yourlittle one.
Can he just come and do thisthing?
And so he went and like did amodeling thing where he was
(27:03):
supposed to be the son of somedads and, you know, did this
cute little funny photo.
And afterwards, he was like, hi,really liked doing that.
And we said, modeling, what is,I don't know anything about that
world.
Do you have interest in that?
Like what even?
And he said, oh yeah, I'd loveto do anything like that.
So that led to more curiosity.
And we, we reached around or putout feelers to the actors that
(27:25):
we know out in the community.
And there's, I feel.
Lucky things.
And that, as I said, we live inproximity to a big city.
It's not a huge city, but it's abig enough city to have some
access to opportunity.
And we happen to have a reallyfantastic talent agency.
We've got several in our area,but the one that we signed with
(27:46):
happens to be 10 minutes away.
Yeah.
Many of the actors we know said,oh, I work with Haman.
And so Haman talent agency islinked like at our Instagram bio
and they've got multiplelocations around the Midwest and
they do fantastic work.
And so we, we reached out andsaid, we've got the little one,
he does theater.
(28:06):
He does dance.
He kind of like the modelingthing, although really acting.
Yeah.
He loves.
And they said, well, come onover and we can talk.
And that, that all just kind ofsnowballed from there.
The really cool way.
He was eight when we signed withthem and we went and we met with
them and they interviewed himand then wanted to sign him at
(28:30):
the end of the interview.
But like, this is a whole newworld to us.
I knew nothing about it.
We didn't have any expectations.
It was just, let's go learnmore.
And that's the philosophy.
We've tried to keep through allof it as these are all.
Learning experiences.
And as long as you are enjoyingyourself and having fun, then
we'll, we'll go have fun andsupport it.
If it becomes stressful or westart to like ride an emotional
(28:54):
roller coaster with it.
Cause we're trying, we'reprotecting his tiny heart and
he's eight years old.
Adults who know that being aprofessional performer means
rejection 95% of the time.
And every once in a while, youget to do a show.
So we're going, oh my gosh, wedon't want you to get into this
world.
That's going to hurt your heartor put you at risk of worrying
about, am I good enough forthis?
(29:15):
Am I go to Beth for that?
And so we had lots of chats withhim early on and I'm so pleased
that four years in, he stilllooks at all the experiences I
asked.
So I'm going to learn more.
I get to go share things that Ienjoy.
And he'll even say to otherpeople, you go to a million
auditions, you don't get most ofthem.
(29:36):
You let it go after you do it.
And every once in a while, youget to do a cool project and
then that's it.
He goes to list this life.
It
Katie (29:44):
a
Hannegan (29:44):
has.
Been really good to see andanybody who is interested in
getting into performance, Ihighly recommend.
That approach because you don'twant to ever, especially if
you're parenting a youngperformer, you don't want them
to ever put their value or senseof self in the hands of the
people on the other side of thecasting table.
And that's not to knock thecasting people.
(30:06):
They want you to be great.
They want you to beat.
Cause I I've cast lots of shows.
They want you to be the personthey're looking for.
Everyone's doing the best theycan.
My testing is all about puttinga puzzle together.
And there are factors in thatyou can control, but there's
lots of factors you can untilyou can't take it personally.
It's just out there.
It's just an opportunity toshare what you enjoy doing, but
(30:28):
then shake it off and go dosomething fun afterwards.
You know, you let it go.
And sometimes you get to do coolthings.
Katie (30:34):
that's awesome.
It sounds like type one has notstopped him at all, not held him
back at But I, I'm just curiousto know, like when you go an
audition for whatever it do youlike offer information to the
are casting?
Like, by the way know, he doescondition, he has type one
diabetes, or do you just kind ofnot and it either, either ones,
(30:58):
I don't really have an opinionabout either.
I'm to know.
Well, well, well, what is thisfun new music in the middle of
the show?
Well, I wanted to startsomething new with you guys and
each week feature a new resourceor product that is helpful to my
(31:18):
audience, moms and caregivers oftype one diabetics.
I know a lot of you out thereare also type one diabetics.
And these resources and productswill help you too.
So to kick off our product ofthe week feature, we're going to
start with the digital foodscale that I use in my own home.
It is the tech city food scale,and you can find it on Amazon.
I will leave an affiliate linkin the show notes, so you can
(31:40):
just click on it and see it foryourself.
But you guys I'm telling youhaving a food scale in your
kitchen is a game changer.
When it comes to carb countingand calculating proper boluses
for meals.
I love this food scale so muchbecause it allows me to waive
foods that are hard to bolus forlike breakfast, cereal, and
pasta.
And I find that when I'm usingthe actual weight of the food,
(32:01):
To convert that into how manycarbs are in that serving our
blood sugar management is justso much better.
Plus this particular food scalecomes with a bowl, so you can
just drop whatever it is you'remeasuring into the bowl.
So you don't have to pull up itright down on the surface of the
food scale.
You can throw the bowl in thedishwasher when you're done and
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You also don't have to use thebowl that it comes with.
You can put a plate on top ofit.
(32:22):
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scale you can do.
All you have to do is push alittle button that zeros.
And then you can put the foodinside that you want to measure.
It's battery operated, which Iknow might sound a little
annoying, but I'm telling you,we have used this food scale for
the past year, actually morethan a year, and the batteries
have not died on me yet.
(32:43):
And that's pretty amazing.
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All right.
Let's get back to.
Hannegan (34:37):
Right.
And I think it's a greatquestion.
And it's one that it's aconversation we've had with his
agency.
And he also now has managementthat is LA based.
So he works with his Midwestagents.
And then additionally with ateam that's in LA to do That
scale of project as well.
And so we've had thisconversation and we have it time
(34:59):
and again, because I think eachaudition and each opportunity is
you're weighing pros and cons ofdifferent things.
And so ideally, you know, youwould not worry about any of
that.
And technically, you know, thereare they are.
You can't say I'm not going tohire somebody because I see
(35:19):
their medical devices.
You can't say that of course.
But we try to weigh that processfrom the casting side, you know,
because again, my husband and Iboth have casting experience.
If somebody has somethingdistracting going on to where
I'm going to be.
Looking at that and wonderingabout that, and then it's taken
(35:39):
me out of their audition.
Like I'm not listening as youknow, isn't in gauged up a
manner as you want, you get,you're like 10 seconds with the
casting team.
So if they're wondering thewhole time about what that thing
is, then you've lost them.
And so in that instance, it'ssometimes the best to lead with
it and just demystify theprocess.
(36:00):
Because I think it shows.
Like there's so many things thatas a person casting somebody
that, that impresses the heckout of there's the grit
resilience component of look atthis pardon me?
You can edit this out, look atthis.
Bad-ass cutting in here doingthe thing.
Wow.
Look at them.
And with acting, you know,almost all of the time costuming
(36:21):
can handle any of those, youknow if you happen to have an
insulin come or, or a Dexcom,but Other times, you know, he
will, and I let him choose whathe, what he wears it, auditions
and things too.
And so some of it is if he'swearing a t-shirt that day and
he's swinging his arm around andyou see it, we just don't worry
about it because film auditionsaren't in person, you're filming
(36:43):
it.
You know, you submit a video,whereas the theater audition
you're up there dancing around.
They see you you're live in thesame space.
And so in that instance, Let,you know, if he wants to wear
something that's showing, thenrock it out, man.
And we, we just let it go.
And we don't say anything aboutit.
And then other times he willshare that and have that
(37:06):
conversation ahead of time.
But once he's cast in aproduction, whether it's a
theater production or he's goingon set for a film production,
then we do have theconversation.
So once you're you're hiring.
Then it's important that peopleknow what's going on, but he
just shot he was just on set fora Netflix TV show just a few
(37:27):
weeks ago.
And it was a one night onlything.
It was a show that they were inpost production on they've
already shot it.
It's an animated production.
So we'll share what the title isonce they like put it out in the
spring.
You're not supposed to say titleahead of time.
You know, he just was doing thisfun one night only doubling in
thing where he had to run for.
(37:50):
Oh, it was about three hours.
He's the only kid.
He's the only actor on.
It was 103 heat index and he hadto run from here to there over
and over and over wearing aflannel fleece lined shirt,
jeans, and a button up shirts.
And I'm going okay withoutdiabetes.
(38:12):
That is a nightmarish physicalchallenge and I'm going, oh my
gosh.
So I have just got pounds oflike fruit snacks and we've got
water and the production teamwas great.
So they've got like, everybody'ssurround with like water and
fans and towels.
And so after each shoot, hewould come back like a box or go
into the corner and I'm throwingsugar in his mouth.
(38:34):
And one of the costuming peopleis patting him down and
everybody's around trying tokeep him well.
We didn't tell them that aheadof time, we just got on set and
said, here's the deal.
He's a diabetic.
He's going to be eating a lot ofsugar.
We'll let you know if there's anissue.
And they're like, what?
So, and it went great.
(38:56):
He's in a production right now.
He's in a theater production.
And theater is actually harderthan film
Katie (39:02):
Yeah, you can't stop.
Hannegan (39:04):
can't stop.
You can't just not go on foryour entrance.
You can't, you can't stop.
Has done quite a few shows sincebeing diagnosed about three
years ago and each time it'sbeen a different experience
because he's at a different agein life and hormones, you know,
we're 12, we're almost 13.
So we're, we're riding the wholerollercoaster body changes.
(39:26):
So this show each night, we justmake sure and my husband and I
take turns being backstage withhim.
He's the only kid in the show aswell.
So he doesn't have like peopleto hang with.
So we just take turns beingbackstage with him and we turn
off all of his alarms.
And then one of us is justwatching on the decks, the
follow app the whole time.
And two of the last three biteswe've had performances.
(39:48):
He's been, if those of you whohave a Dexcom gonna know what it
means, a hundred, 107 doublearrows down like minutes before
curtain.
And we're going, oh, we're justspending insulin.
We're 10 bays laying down.
We're throwing fruit snacks andthen cheese crackers.
And you're just trying to get itback up.
Two nights ago, we ended up thendealing with a rebound high the
(40:11):
whole night overnight, forgetsleeping, but last night it went
better and he just hung rightaround one 60 ish the whole,
after we got out of that initiallow.
And so it's got turned off allthose alarms and just watch it.
Cause you can't.
That was our fear is going out.
You're entering.
It's a very serious show.
(40:31):
And now
Katie (40:32):
Yeah.
Right.
Hannegan (40:34):
yes.
Katie (40:34):
Yeah.
That's true.
I guess the only alarm you don'tchoice over is the urgent low.
They turn that one on for goodreason.
think that's
Hannegan (40:42):
for good reason.
And so we just sit there andjust pass.
Fruit snacks the whole time.
And he was at a show at school afew years ago, and I had a high
school student who is going intonursing.
And so we jokingly, but alsolike good future experience.
Put her in charge of himbackstage as the, his medical
(41:03):
assistants.
And this gal is now a senior andshe's about to graduate and is
going into that field and she'lltell people, oh, I had backstage
theater experiences, the medicalassistants.
James and James and the giantpeach, like I was his person.
So he'd come off stage and she'dcheck all the things and did a
great job.
And so I think it's good to knowthat having people on your team,
(41:26):
that you can build littlesupport, pods, you whatever
you're doing in life.
You've got to know how toself-advocate know how say what
you need and then keep peopleinformed.
But it's still a high wire actwhen you're on today.
Katie (41:40):
know my daughter does not do any acting.
I mean, she does other actuallynot too long ago.
She was mommy, I think when Igrow I want to be an actress and
I was oh, okay, great.
Well, we probably to get you.
Well, I like, oh, well weprobably need to get you into
like classes and voice lessons.
And she's like, No, I don't ThenI'm like, okay.
(42:00):
I don't think you reallyunderstand the work that has to
go into wanting be an actor oran actress You grow up.
But does dance in, she's, it's,that's totally different.
Cause with theater, you, youmight have long time dance.
You're usually in and out liketo five So, so yeah, that was
her, her first recital cup backin June little for just,
Hannegan (42:23):
I remember seeing those posts.
Yeah.
Katie (42:25):
you just don't want send her out she's to have low, But
really happen in course of fiveminutes?
Like not whole lot.
So I, I had to keep remindingonly stage five minutes.
if she some sort of.
Treatment, know, she'll be, beoff soon, but you know, but like
there's so excitement being onstage and like, you know, it's
(42:48):
the whole Yeah.
Yeah.
Nerves.
Yep.
I
Hannegan (42:54):
And you know, if they're getting older too, like
I, you know, I find myself nowworrying about things.
Taking a test in class, youknow, he's going to be 13 this
year.
And so he's still in middleschool, but he takes algebra up
with the high schoolers.
And so this is his first kind oflike adult to you're looking
academic class and all of asudden, you know, I'm going, oh
(43:15):
my gosh, he's taking a test tosugar 240 right now, is that
affecting?
I don't know.
You know, he's not done thatkind of academic more
traditional looking academicwork that way before.
And so there's so much.
Every year, you know, it's a newset of challenges that you're
figuring out.
And it's really hard adjustingback to in-person.
(43:37):
School has been really hard thisyear.
Like our numbers have been amess this month and we're three
years in like we're on a callwith the endocrinologist every
couple of days right now going,okay.
Here's what we're seeing nowbecause I like to try to keep
numbers as tight as I can.
So I do get frustrated when Isee.
Katie (43:54):
Yeah.
Hannegan (43:55):
Figure it out, you know, have like, I've been doing
this for two years.
Why don't I have anendocrinology agree degree back
to remind myself yeah, you, youdo the best you can, but
sometimes you've just got to gethelp and get the pros to sort
things out.
So,
Katie (44:11):
Oh, yeah, And then just you've said, like, obviously so
much Like kind of in thosechanging quickly and all the
time his age and getting readyto hit the teen years then this
huge transition to school, youknow, I think I think, I think
that's totally normal to have.
Some weeks where everything Wedefinitely experienced that at
(44:33):
the beginning of the year.
It was just hot the first coupleof weeks.
But you know, we, know what donow to get it it's frustrating
while you're trying to it out,
Hannegan (44:44):
Oh, yeah.
And I'm definitely prone to likerage bolusing.
Like, well, if you have astubborn high or then a stubborn
low, so that, that rollercoaster where you
overcompensate, because you'refrustrated because why can't I
just care enough to fix this formy kid?
I think that's one of thehardest.
Part of parenting, it is whycan't I just care enough to fix
(45:05):
this?
And that's just not how it goes.
So now it goes to, you've got tobe kind to yourself and be
patient with the process.
Cause it's hard.
Katie (45:13):
I know.
what do you think?
do you think favorite?
Thing he's done recently, Iguess I can't say his whole
career.
Cause that started when he wasthree years old, but like do you
think prefers theater or prefersprefer, it sounds he just kinda
little bit of everything, butlike on more.
What
Hannegan (45:31):
Yeah, well, that's a great question in him.
He is very socially motivated.
So I would say anything he getsto do that has other kids
involved, whether it's, youknow, we're, we're the group of
kids and Matilda where you'reoff stage together and you're on
stage together.
He loves a social scene.
He very much derive energy fromother folks.
(45:53):
Who's a true extrovert.
So the experiences in theater,he, you know, he was in a
production of Macbeth a fewyears ago, which you would not
think, oh boy, what a delightfulshow for a child.
it was a really.
They were inspired by the horrormovie, the ring, which I haven't
even seen, but I know it's gotlike the creepy little girl with
(46:14):
like the hair ever face.
So they cast three teen girls asthe three witches and Macbeth.
And they did like the very muchlike the ring, the hair and the
white nightgown, super creepy.
And they went like splasher gorefast, like blood splattering on
wall.
It was a Berry.
Impressive production.
And we have a professionaltheater company in the city that
(46:37):
we're 10 minutes away from.
That is like an internationallyrenowned theater company.
I'm not giving names.
Cause I don't like to give lowyou get it.
Yeah.
Locations, location.
Katie (46:46):
No worries.
Hannegan (46:47):
So he was like a child soldier in it.
They were only on onstage forprobably less than 10 minutes,
but there were about a dozenboys, his age and they were all
about this was pre diagnosis.
So I guess this would have beenwhen he was eight, that first
year he signed with this agency.
So all these little boys hangingaround just getting to have the
(47:08):
best time ever backstage.
And then they got to go out andbe part of this very creepy
production.
But when.
About some of the things he'sinto now, which is fight
choreography, stunt performing,I think back to that show and
go, oh my gosh, he loved tostand in the wings and watch
these amazing, full grown menwith their giant.
(47:29):
Broadswords doing astoundingfive choreography and he loved
it because it's dance to peoplewho do it.
And so you would think of how onearth would a show tonight?
Dancer boy ended up doing this,but it's all choreography.
And when he wants to see hisvideos and he watches people
learn how to do it.
(47:49):
It's just like learning dance.
You know, everybody has to beexactly where they're supposed
to be and you have to count.
You've got to have all yourmoves just right.
So to him, it's all part of thesame world, but he loved
watching those guys fight.
And he would tell me about likethe different, special effects
each night.
Well, the intestines tonight didthis, which sounds very dark and
(48:10):
horrible, but it's hilarious ifyou're involved in theater and
he, you know, he didn't find anyof it scary because he's like,
this is mommy.
They have a baby pool backstagewhere they rinse the blood off
the, if you thought it
Katie (48:23):
amazing, sweetheart.
Hannegan (48:25):
it's amazing.
So the intestines hit theground.
You say.
So he loved being in Macbeth.
And then as far as filmprojects, his favorite one that
he's been in in terms of like,he loves the finished product
too.
Like he loved the movie is amovie called ICU that starts
(48:45):
Helen Hunt.
So if you remember Helen Hunt,
Katie (48:48):
Twister
Hannegan (48:49):
so yeah, All the things you.
So the movie I see you, everyoneshould go see it.
His eye MDB is linked in ourInstagram.
If you want to go look up a fewtitles and such, he's gotten to
do some good ones, but I see youwas the win-win because he got
be with another little boy.
And so he, and this kid, thiskid is.
(49:11):
Young, Sheldon.
Why at McClure is his name?
He's a great kid actor.
He's on young Sheldon.
So it was he and why it had thebest time just hanging around on
set.
And they got to work with astunt choreographer, which now
works us.
Like I want to go back in timeand ask that man, everything.
Cause this was pre pre stunts,Spencer like a, this year thing,
(49:32):
but they got to work with achoreographer because they had
to run through the.
That was it.
There's just running, runningthrough the woods, but they had
to, you know, there was safetythings.
They had to keep in mind whothey're renting and they got to
paddle around on like railroadtracks and things like that.
So it's just a handful of littleflashback scenes, but he had
such a great learningexperience.
(49:53):
The end had a lot of fun withthe other kiddo.
So every time he's onset, heloves learning.
You know how they set up all thescenes and like being, being in
films.
It's a very slow process.
You sit around on set for 12hours to shoot for less than 15
minutes.
Katie (50:09):
Oh, my gosh.
Hannegan (50:11):
So you've got to really be interested and patient
to do that, that process.
And so for him, it's justlearning everywhere.
You're looking at how they'relighting it, how they're solving
problems, how they're doingcontinuity things.
And so for a curious person,it's a masterclass.
Learning how large-scalecollaboration and patients over
(50:33):
time, how, how that all comestogether to make a finished
product and is very much thatway as well.
That'd be very patient andcomfortable with chaos.
Katie (50:42):
Yes.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
I, have no idea.
Honestly.
I've been in the, I did theaterwhen I high school, but I've
never film world, but yeah, it ahuge production.
My and I are watching all theHarry movies now, or like the
books and then watching themovies and we watched Yeah, we
watched a little bit like themaking kind of like behind
scenes And just when, when youwere talking about all of I was
(51:07):
just thinking like the scenesand how massive all that was.
it just
Hannegan (51:12):
it's incredible
Katie (51:14):
Hey, I got to
Hannegan (51:14):
forever.
Katie (51:16):
Oh, I know.
curious because has he Cobra Kaion Netflix?
Hannegan (51:23):
Oh, we love Coca-Cola.
Katie (51:25):
And I'm sure he does.
He know that Mary can't evenremember her name on the show,
but that's her name in reallife?
She's a T one D
Hannegan (51:32):
Yeah.
She's a T one B he figured thatout.
Actually.
I didn't know that.
And so he found that outsomewhere and now we follow her
on Instagram as well.
I would love to know how they.
Yeah, handle the sugar with allthe action sequences and things.
I'm sure, you know, it's thesame way.
The rest of them all too.
You just have to plan ahead.
(51:54):
I was telling my mom thismorning that, you know, Brooks
goes to a par core class eachweek and his par core class
starts at seven 30 and nights.
We start getting ready to go atfive.
We start temp bailing back, andstart slowly getting your sugar
up because you can go in therewith your sugar and great range
and be 50 double arrows downwithin 20 minutes of flipping
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and jumping and running.
And so I'm sure she has tohandle it all the same way.
You just gotta start planningahead of time to make sure you
land where you need to land atthe right time.
But some of the fight sequencesincredible.
So good.
Katie (52:29):
I feel like that would be right up his alley.
Not only is it likechoreographed fight sequences,
but she's also type one thatsets.
awesome.
So how do you, I, I know I justgot up before we sign off.
got to know like, how do Youguys handle it when he's like
set for something, with your,with your work and everything?
how do you, cause you have to bethere.
right?
assuming
Hannegan (52:49):
have to be there.
Yes.
Yeah, one of us has to be there.
Yes.
And so my husband, we'refortunate in that he has a job
that can be flexible.
And this was before everybodywas working remotely, his
company, he was able to workremotely a few years ago.
So when the rest of us allsigned on to zoom for the first
time, he's like welcome to ourworld.
(53:10):
This is what we've been doing.
And he has, he has a wonderfuljob and he's in a position.
He has the precedent in hiscompany.
And so he has some flexibilityand freedom.
He works his butt off, but he'sable to do it wherever.
And so when Brooks has had to dothings that are out of state, I
mean, it kills me because, youknow, Brookside the little peas
(53:31):
in a pod.
So it kills me.
I want to go so bad.
And if something is within anhour or so, and it's just a day
or two, then I can do.
But if it's something that'sgoing to be a couple of weeks or
more of than my husband is theone that gets to go do it.
And so they go, they have awonderful adventure.
They keep me posted, butteaching is not a flexible job.
(53:52):
And so you know we definitelyhave to rely on my husband's job
being more flexible becausesomebody gotta be able to go.
You got to go with.
And move.
And you don't often have a lotof notice, especially with film
theater, you see it coming andthere's a rehearsal schedule.
There's a process we're filmed.
You can audition and forgetabout it.
Cause we always just forgetabout it.
(54:12):
After you submit, we go on withour lives, what that was fun,
move on.
And then you get a call and youneed to be on set in a day and
it's, you know, you got totravel, you've got to figure it
all out.
And so it you do have to figureout a way as a family.
Keep some level of flexibilityand that's hard, but we also,
you know, we try to make surethat this is one part of his
(54:34):
world and he is one member ofour family.
So we also make sure that ourfamily is very balanced and
that, that isn't the centerpieceof our world.
And I say that with love that,you know but I know some
families make choices.
Have like a live in a differentcity for part of the year and
(54:55):
things like that.
And they kind of like make thechild's career, the center of
everything.
And we have definitely made achoice as a family unit to not
do that.
And no judgements people who do,but our interest is healthy,
happy, mentally.
Well, young men, if they moveinto adulthood and we feel like
being balanced with yourinterests and balanced with your
(55:17):
family is what we find to be themost important.
So
Katie (55:21):
Oh yeah, definitely.
Hannegan (55:22):
that makes sense.
Katie (55:23):
I, Yeah.
it definitely does.
It's a great
Hannegan (55:25):
So it's a fun adventure.
It is not the centerpiece of hisworld.
And that is by choice because wefeel like that's part of taking
care of him.
Yeah.
Katie (55:33):
think that's have really loved having you on, hearing
about your family and aboutBrooks and, and you guys cannot
see, but there's also, there'sbeen a co guest this whole time,
little miss DocSend has sittingon Hannigan's lap and She is so
cute.
I had doxins growing And sothat's bringing back.
Hannegan (55:53):
approves of all of this.
Yes.
Katie (55:55):
sh she clearly does.
She is like, love living it up.
She's like snuggled up to hershoulder.
I always get so jealous ofpeople with small dogs, because
I love my dog so much.
And I would just be so excitedif He, could sit, sit in my lap
right now while I'm talking toyou, but he's 80 pounds and it
would
Hannegan (56:12):
He, yeah, well, she's our, she's our big, tiny dog,
and this is how tiny shoes, butwe have a Chihuahua, half her
thighs, a little bunny that yousometimes see on Instagram.
And then our big dog is awhopping 20 pounds.
The Boston terrier Tucker and.
Bonnie and Tucker tend to end upon Instagram more than the
queen.
(56:32):
The queen is very much, I'm nota big fan of social media.
So if you get camera out, likeshe will like scoff and doxins
are very, very smart.
That's right then.
Yes The 12 on Boston terrier,their game, they love the
Instagram and the pig talk.
So.
Katie (56:50):
I, love it.
Speaking of Instagram and ticktalk, I will definitely put in
the notes and I'll mention it ineither the intro or the ultra of
the show where people can findyou guys and I'll put a link
Hannegan (57:00):
Oh boy.
Katie (57:01):
if
Hannegan (57:01):
Yep.
Katie (57:01):
with it, I'll put a link to Brooks's.
I am DB and
Hannegan (57:05):
yeah, I think that's delightful.
Katie (57:07):
you're comfortable with, but
Hannegan (57:09):
Yeah, I think that's lovely.
Well, thank you so much.
This has been great fun toactually get to see you and chat
with you.
So thank you.
Katie (57:16):
you're welcome.
All right.
Well, you
Hannegan (57:18):
I'll look forward to hearing it then.
You say hi to your little.
Katie (57:23):
I will.
don't even doing right now.
Dad.
I rarely record on the weekends.
It's a Sunday right now forthose people listening, but not
sure where they, I feel liketried get him out of the though
I, or they're watching football.
I'm not sure if one or the oneor the other.
Hannegan (57:37):
very quiet here too.
I'm like w where is everybody?
So enjoy it and join the peaceand quiet mom.
Katie (57:43):
Exactly.
Hannegan (57:44):
All right, well, I'll see you on Instagram them.
Katie (57:47):
So you're there.
Well, that's it for our showtoday.
I hope you guys love thatconversation with me and
Hannigan.
I just so badly want to beadopted into their family.
I was a thespian in high schooland I just love all things
(58:07):
related to theater and musicalsand the arts and, and bonus.
They just went on a giant tripto Disney world and I'm a huge
Disney fan.
So.
If you guys are ever looking forlike bonus family members or
extra family members, Roseberryfamily I'm available.
I'm just, just throwing it outthere.
I'm available again.
(58:28):
You guys need to go follow themon Instagram and Tik TOK.
There are lots of fun to follow.
Always doing fun, silly, goofystuff, and really amazing stuff.
Their handle is at Hanniganunderscore.
Brooks, I will put a link tothat in the show notes as
always.
Okay.
Sugar mamas have a fabulousweek.
This is episode 42 of the sugarmamas podcast.
And today I get to talk withHannigan Hannigan, his mom to
Brooks Roseberry, who was achild actor.
That's been living with type onediabetes for the past three
years.
You guys are going to lovehearing about life with this
family, their youngest sonBrooks, who's the T one D.
(00:21):
So many fun theatricalactivities.
He does stage acting, film,acting he's into stunt
choreography.
He dances, they have their ownninja warrior course in their
backyard.
The list goes on and on, and heis not the only one in the
family who is involved in the.
Their entire family is creative,artistic, theatrical, musical,
(00:45):
or something along those lines.
I'm just going to go ahead andtell you now that you're
definitely going to want tofollow them on both Instagram
and Tik TOK.
Their handle is at Hanniganunderscore Mr.
Brooks.
Alright, sit back and enjoy.
Hannigan is going to tell us allabout what it's like living with
a kid with type one who loves toperform.
(01:05):
Enjoy.
Katie (01:11):
You're listening to the sugar mamas podcast, a show
designed for moms and caregiversof type one diabetics here.
You'll find a community oflike-minded people who are
striving daily to keep theirkids safe, happy, and healthy in
the ever-changing world of typeone.
I'm your host and fellow T one Dmom, Katie Roseboro.
(01:40):
Before we get started.
I need you to know that nothingyou hear on the sugar mamas
podcast should be consideredmedical advice.
Please be safe, be smart, andalways consult your physician
before making changes to the wayyou manage type one diabetes.
Thanks.
Hannegan (01:57):
Okay.
Hi everybody.
Hi Katie.
Thank you so much for asking youto be part of this.
It's been a lot of fun toconnect with other families and
moms and individuals over thelast year.
Through Instagram.
So thanks for this opportunity.
My name is Hannigan and I havethree sons and my T one D is our
(02:19):
youngest, too many people knowhim on social media as Mr.
Brooks.
So we have three boys ages, 17,15 and 12, and Brooks is our
youngest.
And this week actually will behis third diver three on Friday.
So we started Three years ago,very unexpectedly.
(02:40):
I grew up actually with my mom,insulin dependent as a diabetic.
And so I I'm in that camp of, Ithought I knew things about
diabetes because I grew upwatching my mom take shots and
deal with that.
And it, it's amazing how muchyou don't realize is going on
with the non-stop.
(03:00):
Digital lens required to carefor somebody who is dealing with
type one diabetes.
And so it's breakfast diagnosed.
It was a great bondingexperience that we never asked
for with grandma she engaged inthat process with us and she was
right along our side, alongsidewith us as we learned how.
Do all of the things she'd beendoing for 40 years and they
(03:23):
would lay out their insulin pensnext to each other on the table
before having a meal together.
And she said about six monthsafter he was diagnosed, she had
her best A1C that she'd had in30 years.
I must be paying more attentionto it.
Now I've got a little onewatching me.
Katie (03:40):
So Brooks diagnosis motivated her to take It, up a
as far as her management,
Hannegan (03:46):
It, did she?
Yeah.
You get comfortable and you findyour norms and, you know, she
doesn't deal with that.
She's been amazed by all of the,the newfangled technology works
with the bionic boy with aDexcom and an Omnipod insulin
pumps.
And she still does her MDImanagement.
She's just shocked all the time.
She does her long acting.
(04:07):
Her short acting insulin andthat's it.
So she is fascinated by all ofthe medical technology that's
come along.
She's so glad that it exists,but she's also like, well, I've
got my own ways of doing things.
I don't know if I can adapt thismany decades into all these new,
new tools that are available.
Katie (04:26):
I know, not even a CGM.
Have you talked her into a CGMyet?
Hannegan (04:30):
We've talked about it and she says, I can tell what my
sugar is.
She can just feel it.
So for better or worse, youknow, she is, I feel like way
more tuned into her highs andlows than Brooks at least is at
this age.
Cause he doesn't maybe have topay as much attention to the
physical sensations becauseyou've got alarms going off.
(04:50):
That's why I say for better orworse, but I'm grateful for
those technologies for sure.
Katie (04:55):
I know I've the podcast before, but part of me feels
like it might less stressful tohave it some days, cause you're
kind of like glued to it andalways watching it.
But then, but I don't, I don'ttry I'll just keep it,
Hannegan (05:09):
Yeah, the alarm's going off into the love, hate
relationships after my myself,how grateful I am.
Every time sugar mate calls meat 2:00 AM to go do something.
I, I curse.
And then I say, thank youtechnology for allowing me to
care for my child.
Better.
So love, hate relationship.
Katie (05:26):
absolutely.
So I'm curious his diagnosisstory with your mom being a type
one diabetic.
Did she, was she the one thatkind of picked up on signs and
symptoms?
Or how did that go down?
Hannegan (05:37):
You know, I would love to say that I was tuned into all
of the things because of havinga, you know, an experience
growing up, watching it, but nowit caught us all off guard.
Nobody was expecting it.
And I think, you know, we, weshare our experience with it
whenever we can, because I thinkit's so easy to miss.
(05:57):
And especially if you have akiddo who is an active kid, you
can explain a way of so many ofthe symptoms.
And so.
Works with diagnosed onSeptember 24th.
But as we tried to retrace oursteps of how did we miss this?
How did we not see this kind of.
That there were some signs thatstarted probably June or July
(06:18):
prior to this diagnosis.
We had a few months ofincreasing what we now know
were, were indicators andsymptoms, but the school year in
our area starts the first weekof August.
And he was doing a musical atthe time at the high school.
And so he was nine years old atthe time and he is a dancer and
an actor.
(06:38):
And so he is used to being very.
And this was a very rigoroushigh school production of
Matilda, the musical, which is afunny sentence to say Matilda,
the rigorous physical activity,but it was, it's a lot of
dancing for the kiddos.
And so he was dancing two orthree hours a day.
And it's August and it's thebeginning of a new school year.
So of course he's exhausted andthirsty and he appeared to be
(07:03):
losing weight, which wasconcerning because he has a bit
of a, he describes himself as aspaghetti noodle body type.
He's a very, very slim kiddo.
So he just started lookingskinnier and skinnier and.
Had a checkup schedule becausehe had, you know, kind of
shadows under the eyes and wasjust looking really rough.
(07:24):
We're like this musical istaking it out of him.
And I don't know if it's a momintuition thing or.
Growing up watching my own mom,but I did have in the back of my
mind, the slightest curiosity,if we might be dealing with the
diabetes thing and I'll neverforget it, it was a Monday at
school and I am also we're alltheater people in our health.
So I'm a high school theaterdirector as well, but this is a
(07:46):
different high school.
So Brookstone.
You know, doing a show at a, ata neighboring high school, but
I'm at my own theater rehearsal.
Afterschool.
My husband came to pick upBrooks to take him to an
appointment at like one 30.
And it's one of those days youremember every minute of the
day, your kid is diagnosed witha thing that changes your life
trajectory and, and your.
(08:06):
I sent a post-it with my husbandthat said, ask about type one
diabetes.
And I didn't even want to say itout loud because I am a little
prone to overthinking things andsuch and can be a bit neurotic.
And I own that.
So I'm like, I didn't even wantto be ridiculous and say that
out loud in front of him,because of course I'm being
(08:28):
ridiculous.
Set the post-it with thehusband, husband.
Yeah, slide that over to thepediatrician.
And he said, she looked at itand kind of raised their
eyebrows at him, but it waslike, there's a little finger
panic.
And she left the room, came backin a minute or so later and said
that can't be right when youneed to check something again.
(08:49):
And Brooks has no idea what'sgoing on.
We've never talked aboutdiabetes other than yeah.
Grandma takes shots and that.
That was the extent of hisexperience at that point.
And so she finger pricked againand his sugar was over 600.
And so he, you know, then you gointo the slow-mo next few hours
there, but she said right nowyour fastest route to the
(09:11):
hospital is just getting yourcar and drive.
I can call an ambulance, butright now, are you more
comfortable just in Jason?
My husband is like, oh, we'regetting in the car, calling me
at school.
And then they went over.
The bridge, we're near a bigcity that has a children's
hospital.
So over the bridge to thechildren's hospital, and I get
the phone call while they'redriving.
And he says, Burke says you wereright.
(09:33):
He has type one diabetes.
We're going to the hospital.
I don't know what's going on andmeet us there.
And I remember just walking outof my high school theater
rehearsal, going 40 teamslooking at me going, I have to
leave.
I'll see you all.
We'll see you all later, I'mgoing to leave.
And we were a very tight knit,amazing school community.
(09:54):
And another teacher jumped in.
Everyone's go, go, go, and getto the house.
I can go through that wholeprocess then, and then, you
know, you check it on a Monday,you'd get a life-changing
diagnosis.
They send you home on aWednesday telling you all these
things you have to do to keepyour kid alive.
And you're going, this is real.
This is how this happens.
I am not quiet.
(10:15):
I can't talk.
What do you mean?
I'm going to be givinginjections to keep my child
alive.
And so I, you don't know.
Lots of other medical things tocompare it to.
But I do feel like that was sucha shock to be given such an
enormous responsibility.
And what felt like, I mean, theydid a nice job training us, but
(10:37):
this was it.
Didn't.
I was like, no, we need to stayhere for at least two months
till we learn how to do this.
So, so off we go on a Wednesday,but Brooks bless his heart that
night he's in the house.
And he is very emotional thathe's missing dance,
choreography, rehearsal thatnight.
They're learning one of the bigsongs for Matilda.
(10:59):
And how is he going to get to bein the phone because he has to
get to rehearsal and we'regoing, oh honey, oh honey, we're
going to hold a minute here.
We're going to let your directorand choreographer know.
And this is most important rightnow is slowing down and just
getting oriented.
And he was back at rehearsal aweek later learned that
(11:21):
choreography that he missed andgot right back in there.
And as absurd as saddle felt, Ithink there was something really
stabilizing and probablyconfidence boosting about
getting right back into liferight away.
And I'm not saying that's aroutine that works for everybody
because when I look back and Igo, oh, right away, we were in a
(11:42):
show and doing all the thingsand.
My husband and I were performingin a show at the time.
I'm like, wait a minute.
Not only was he in a show, myhusband and I are in a show that
opened the Wednesday.
He got out of the hospitalopening night
Katie (11:58):
left the and went and got onstage.
Hannegan (12:01):
and perform.
Yup.
Katie (12:03):
goodness.
Hannegan (12:04):
we're never in shows together.
We take turns.
We're like, are you kidding me?
We're in a show.
Together is in my husband's thelead.
I'm like the secondary, likesupporting lead.
So I'm like, do you use.
These are the things that I'llshow up on opening night and
I'll know my stuff and it'll befine.
Katie (12:19):
Oh, my
Hannegan (12:19):
And again, I look back and go, holy crap, that was out
of control.
What were we doing?
But you know, I feel like theuniverse has a hand in things
sometimes.
And I feel like it was such ablessing to be foisted right
back into the things we weredoing, including a trip to New
York to the city a few weekslater.
And we were like, should wecancel?
(12:40):
We don't know what we're doing.
Should we cancel?
And we decided to go ahead andgo for it.
And right away, we had toperform those two weekends.
We had to get my husband'smother.
So the other grandma involvedwith Brooks's care immediately
out of the gate.
And it was so scary.
But my, my point was, I think,had we been enabled to just stay
(13:02):
at home and hole up?
I feel like our fear would havebeen so hard to move through
and.
It would have been terrifying tolet someone else care for him or
to go and do anything again.
Cause it all would've felt soscary with this new set of
circumstances.
But we were, you know, we werein a train that had already left
(13:22):
the station.
So we had to keep going, keepthe balls in the air.
And a lot of confidence camefrom that right out of the gate.
We wouldn't have necessarilychosen or planned it that way,
but when I look back.
I'm grateful that it all kind ofunfolded the way it did.
It was going to have to happen.
It was a trial by fire that has,has shaped.
(13:43):
I think our actions since then,
Katie (13:45):
I, oh, no, it definitely does.
And I think that, know, I thinkevery family is different.
I think that that would havetotally what am I trying to say?
I think that would have totallystressed some to be involved in
all these things, but I feellike the people.
Yeah.
But I feel like the peoplemight've really thrown for a
loop probably wouldn't in allthose place.
(14:06):
You know what I mean?
they might've might not havebeen involved in like, you know,
Two different major productionstage productions at the same
time.
So I feel, I just feel likeeverybody has a different
tolerance what they life and,you you know, if you need to
cancel everything.
Yeah,
Hannegan (14:24):
Exactly.
And sometimes that's absolutelywhat you should do.
So I definitely say that that isnot the way I would necessarily
recommend anyone diagnose goabout things.
But if there is a lesson there,I guess the lesson that I hope
could be universal would be tonot let fear rule your world
with your kiddo and what arethey?
Very scary.
(14:44):
Unpredictable.
Circumstance.
So type one diabetes, you can beso good at it.
And then people who are go withit, we laugh.
So like there's no such thing asbeing good.
It changes all the time,especially if your kiddos are
little and still growing.
I joke that Brooks has adifferent body every week right
now.
So his, his numbers and hisneeds change every week.
(15:06):
And you really don't know untilyou deal with it up close and
you see how very difficult itis.
So people type one, diabeticsare rockstars and the people who
care for them are doing so muchall day every day and make it
look you see, but we know whatthe labor looks like.
So it's very, very demanding.
Katie (15:28):
gosh.
So demanding and people reallyhave no clue and I don't them to
a clue unless they're living it.
I feel like people get up inarms a little bit sometimes.
know, when people maybequestions that seem ignorant,
but I mean, they don't, justdon't know they're living it
every Like we are we see it upclose 24 7.
I love what you said about notfear your decisions.
(15:49):
That's definitely our mottostoo.
And
Hannegan (15:51):
Yeah, because you could easily let cause it is
scary.
You could easily let that ruleyour world.
So you have to actively kind ofpush back on it and make sure.
You get to do the things youwant to do and let your kid
empower them to not be scared ofwhat they're dealing with.
And it's we try to work togetheras a team to do.
Katie (16:11):
I know had to listen not too long ago and asked me about
vacation.
She had planned with her fairlynew, newly diagnosed type one.
And she was kind of thinkingwhat do I the trip?
feel like we shouldn't go.
No, say whatever you just go onthe know it's scary and know
(16:32):
like you know you're doing, butlike do not, I would not show
your child that like, you know,we're all these things just
because you have type one.
I, I told her, I like, look, asyou boxes, and candy, like you
are going come out of thing.
Oh.
alive and well.
And kids probably having greattime, like the numbers probably
(16:53):
aren't going to great, but.
Like just live life and you canfigure out later.
Hannegan (17:00):
They'll come, they will come.
Katie (17:01):
exactly.
Well, tell me about Brooks's asbecause he, mean, what I see on
he does all sorts of He's actor.
He does a lot work.
like into ninja warrior courseSo I want kind of want to know a
little bit about everything, butwhen did he start acting?
I mean, obviously he was nine, Iwhen he was in that show.
So before then.
Hannegan (17:23):
Right.
Well, it, you know, and he andI, I was showing him your
questions this morning and wewere getting a kick out of it.
Just kind of like thinkingabout.
When did this start and youknow, he's he's at all.
Three of our sons arefascinating, unique individuals
where we feel very fortunate toget to parents, to them.
They are wild men and they'vegot a lot of different things
(17:43):
going on.
But Brooks, you know, happens tobe the one that people might
know because some of hisactivities that he engaged us
with, you know, demand anaudience.
So you can infer what you likefrom that.
He's the baby of the family.
They'd be, the family tend tolike it, but.
So we started doing our socialmedia escapades, like so many
folks did during the pandemicand we, our school went virtual
(18:09):
and we were virtual for a goodyear and a half.
We just went physically backinto the building this last
month.
And so we're a house full oftheater people, as I said.
And so.
Theater people stuck at homewithout an audience need some
creative outlets.
So that's where we ended up kindof teaming up and having a lot
of fun on first pick talk, andthen later Instagram, and now we
(18:31):
kind of juggle both and have funwith it.
But he, the two of us are theextroverts of the household.
So there are five of us, but myhusband and our older two sons
are very much fine without anaudience.
They would prefer to do theircreative endeavor.
Behind the themes are in thevisual arts world.
So Brooks and RPS in a pub.
(18:51):
So we were climbing the wall,stuck at home and hence the
social media fun, which has beena really fun bonding and
creative outlet for us.
So go figure that's one of thefew silver linings of the,
what's been a very challengingyear.
So with the pandemic anyway.
So when did he get into acting?
(19:12):
I asked him that the throat andhe was like, huh, well, oh, I
first put, you know, like alittle old man.
He's 12 years old way back inthe day.
He said, remember I waschampioned beauty and the beast.
And so his first his firsttheater production, he was three
years old.
And.
He was, it was at my school.
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I was directing beauty and thebeast, and we're like, we need
an ADB darling chip to cue thereaction at the end when he's my
mama, you know, I'm a boy again.
And so I should have known, thisis the moment we've created.
A future thespian becausehearing that crowd go and you're
(19:53):
a little freer, forget it.
It was, that was a done deal atthat point.
But really it was probably evenprior to that he said, well,
probably you all.
Because my husband and I've metin college 25 years ago we were
both musical theater,performance majors since, so we
met and built our world arounddoing showtunes together.
(20:14):
And such, we're both fingers andactors and now, and now both of
us prefer to direct and I alsomusical direct and teach other
people to sing.
And we find a lot of joy andpurpose in yeah, helping others
to find their joy on stage andto, to find their talents and
such.
So.
(20:35):
All three of our boys have grownup surrounded by theater
productions because daddy usedto be a high school theater
director too.
So mommy be teaching voicelessons in one room and daddy in
the next room at school would bedirecting the play.
Or I was pregnant with all threeof them and in a show all three
times.
So the oldest I was doing secretgarden, the middle and other
(20:57):
show Brooks and other show.
And so we.
Even in utero, they weresurrounded by show tunes.
Cause if I wasn't on stage, Iwas playing piano and singing
and teaching other people tosing show tunes.
So they all came out with jazzhands instantly, but we had to
have very funny conversationswith each of them, probably
(21:19):
around five or six when they hadto have the realization that
what do you mean everybodydoesn't sing?
Because their experience of thepeople in their home and the
people who came and hung outwith us or going to school and
seeing us, teaching everybodysang and dance.
And that was what it meant to bea human.
(21:40):
And I think what a beautiful wayto look at the world that the
world is full of people, singingand dancing and working through
emotions on stage.
That's how you do it.
So,
Katie (21:51):
love it.
I would love it.
If people actually live lifelike a musical, like just all of
a just broke out into song anddance.
I think the world would be muchhappier place.
Hannegan (22:00):
I'm telling him we would work it out.
You do the power ballads, you dothe angry, you can do it all.
The whole range of emotion canbe sung and we would all be a
lot healthier for.
So, uh, so Brooks truly, youknow, was going to shows and
seeing things and sitting inrehearsals, you know, from the
moment he was.
And a baby carrier, you know,heading to things.
(22:22):
And so beauty and the beast withhis first time actually
performing.
And then he would go to littlecamps and workshops and things
like that.
And so his trajectory is, youknow, he, all three of our kids
have been great teachers to usin terms of.
Are very much a follow the childkind of family.
(22:43):
We're a Montessori family aswell.
We go to a Montessori.
I teach at and my sons go to aMontessori school and that's a
whole other podcast, butMontessori philosophy, if you
had to boil it down to onesentence is follow the child.
And it's all about empoweringand cultivating individual
interests and pursuits andincorporating those into their
(23:05):
education.
I can see the impact thatMontessori education has had on
them as curious young people whoknow how to question and pursue
information.
And so Brooks, as we go back,you know, circling back here you
mentioned he has all thesevarious interests and things
that you will get to see alittle window into, through
(23:26):
social media, but all thatcuriosity comes from.
His educational background.
And so when he's wondering aboutsomething, he will follow that
wild hair and exhaust himselfcreatively through research and
studying people.
Thank goodness for technology.
Um, when I look at YouTube andwhat I would have done with
YouTube 30 years ago, cause Iwas that way, but we didn't have
(23:49):
the resources.
Then you had to go to thelibrary and get an encyclopedia.
You got one paragraph, if youwere lucky and now.
Through Instagram and YouTubeand tick talk.
If you want to learn how to doevery kind of stunt fall under
the sun or how to do fightchoreography, you have access to
the pros and they're sharingtheir passions and the things
that they know how to do, theyshare them.
(24:11):
And then the next generation canstudy it.
And so he is a Renaissance manin that way.
But we are theater people.
We are not film actors.
So Brooke's crossed over intothis other world.
That's been a lot of fun tolearn about because it's all
acting, but theater people andstage performers are often,
(24:33):
especially musical theater,stage performers.
We're a very different kind of.
Energy, then the subtle tworequired of a film.
So me, I would be a hot mess onfilm because I just there's too
much happening too much space,too much everywhere energy, but
Brooks was one of those kiddoswho can adapt and can pivot
between the two worlds reallywell.
(24:55):
And so he's been dancing anddoing theater camps and things
since he was 80 bitty.
And then he.
We got an opportunity to sub in,at a professional Shakespeare
production when he was fixed, hegot to do one performance.
That was it.
It was a production of aMidsummer night's dream.
And there's a changeling boy,for those of you who are
(25:17):
Shakespeare fans, you're like,oh yeah, yeah.
To Tanya and Oprah on they'refighting over the boy.
So he got the sub in one nightfor this kiddo and we were we
were nervous.
We're like, well, he doesn'tappear to.
Nurse or anything, but he's atiny child and this is a huge
outdoor performance space.
And the role required him to bethe first person on stage.
(25:40):
He had to come out and hislittle Victorian nightcap and
long night dress and come on outand hit all these various marks
has opened up this treasure boxand do all these things.
He screws up the whole thing.
And we're not saying any ofthat, you know, we've got our
actor faces on our shore.
Yes, honey.
Have fun.
(26:00):
Oh my gosh.
And then at the end of the show,the last person on stage with
this actor is this wonderful manwho played puck, who had like
horns.
And he was really kind ofcreepy, magical looking.
And it's three hours passed atthat time.
You know, 10
Katie (26:15):
gosh.
Hannegan (26:15):
Are you kidding me?
Six years old.
He had the best side of hislife.
He loved it.
He hit all of his marks, butmost importantly, he loved
hanging out with the actressbackstage.
He brought along his doctor whobook and his book about world
war II.
And they talked about world warII and Dr.
Who the whole night and thesewonderful professionally.
(26:39):
We're awesome to him.
And I, I do feel like thingsjust kind of happen how they're
supposed to, that led to anotherfriend reached out and said, oh,
I need to do a photo shoot.
I need a kid for this magazine.
And I know you've got yourlittle one.
Can he just come and do thisthing?
And so he went and like did amodeling thing where he was
(27:03):
supposed to be the son of somedads and, you know, did this
cute little funny photo.
And afterwards, he was like, hi,really liked doing that.
And we said, modeling, what is,I don't know anything about that
world.
Do you have interest in that?
Like what even?
And he said, oh yeah, I'd loveto do anything like that.
So that led to more curiosity.
And we, we reached around or putout feelers to the actors that
(27:25):
we know out in the community.
And there's, I feel.
Lucky things.
And that, as I said, we live inproximity to a big city.
It's not a huge city, but it's abig enough city to have some
access to opportunity.
And we happen to have a reallyfantastic talent agency.
We've got several in our area,but the one that we signed with
(27:46):
happens to be 10 minutes away.
Yeah.
Many of the actors we know said,oh, I work with Haman.
And so Haman talent agency islinked like at our Instagram bio
and they've got multiplelocations around the Midwest and
they do fantastic work.
And so we, we reached out andsaid, we've got the little one,
he does theater.
(28:06):
He does dance.
He kind of like the modelingthing, although really acting.
Yeah.
He loves.
And they said, well, come onover and we can talk.
And that, that all just kind ofsnowballed from there.
The really cool way.
He was eight when we signed withthem and we went and we met with
them and they interviewed himand then wanted to sign him at
(28:30):
the end of the interview.
But like, this is a whole newworld to us.
I knew nothing about it.
We didn't have any expectations.
It was just, let's go learnmore.
And that's the philosophy.
We've tried to keep through allof it as these are all.
Learning experiences.
And as long as you are enjoyingyourself and having fun, then
we'll, we'll go have fun andsupport it.
If it becomes stressful or westart to like ride an emotional
(28:54):
roller coaster with it.
Cause we're trying, we'reprotecting his tiny heart and
he's eight years old.
Adults who know that being aprofessional performer means
rejection 95% of the time.
And every once in a while, youget to do a show.
So we're going, oh my gosh, wedon't want you to get into this
world.
That's going to hurt your heartor put you at risk of worrying
about, am I good enough forthis?
(29:15):
Am I go to Beth for that?
And so we had lots of chats withhim early on and I'm so pleased
that four years in, he stilllooks at all the experiences I
asked.
So I'm going to learn more.
I get to go share things that Ienjoy.
And he'll even say to otherpeople, you go to a million
auditions, you don't get most ofthem.
(29:36):
You let it go after you do it.
And every once in a while, youget to do a cool project and
then that's it.
He goes to list this life.
It
Katie (29:44):
a
Hannegan (29:44):
has.
Been really good to see andanybody who is interested in
getting into performance, Ihighly recommend.
That approach because you don'twant to ever, especially if
you're parenting a youngperformer, you don't want them
to ever put their value or senseof self in the hands of the
people on the other side of thecasting table.
And that's not to knock thecasting people.
(30:06):
They want you to be great.
They want you to beat.
Cause I I've cast lots of shows.
They want you to be the personthey're looking for.
Everyone's doing the best theycan.
My testing is all about puttinga puzzle together.
And there are factors in thatyou can control, but there's
lots of factors you can untilyou can't take it personally.
It's just out there.
It's just an opportunity toshare what you enjoy doing, but
(30:28):
then shake it off and go dosomething fun afterwards.
You know, you let it go.
And sometimes you get to do coolthings.
Katie (30:34):
that's awesome.
It sounds like type one has notstopped him at all, not held him
back at But I, I'm just curiousto know, like when you go an
audition for whatever it do youlike offer information to the
are casting?
Like, by the way know, he doescondition, he has type one
diabetes, or do you just kind ofnot and it either, either ones,
(30:58):
I don't really have an opinionabout either.
I'm to know.
Well, well, well, what is thisfun new music in the middle of
the show?
Well, I wanted to startsomething new with you guys and
each week feature a new resourceor product that is helpful to my
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I know a lot of you out thereare also type one diabetics.
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(31:40):
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When it comes to carb countingand calculating proper boluses
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And I find that when I'm usingthe actual weight of the food,
(32:01):
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(32:22):
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(32:43):
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All right.
Let's get back to.
Hannegan (34:37):
Right.
And I think it's a greatquestion.
And it's one that it's aconversation we've had with his
agency.
And he also now has managementthat is LA based.
So he works with his Midwestagents.
And then additionally with ateam that's in LA to do That
scale of project as well.
And so we've had thisconversation and we have it time
(34:59):
and again, because I think eachaudition and each opportunity is
you're weighing pros and cons ofdifferent things.
And so ideally, you know, youwould not worry about any of
that.
And technically, you know, thereare they are.
You can't say I'm not going tohire somebody because I see
(35:19):
their medical devices.
You can't say that of course.
But we try to weigh that processfrom the casting side, you know,
because again, my husband and Iboth have casting experience.
If somebody has somethingdistracting going on to where
I'm going to be.
Looking at that and wonderingabout that, and then it's taken
(35:39):
me out of their audition.
Like I'm not listening as youknow, isn't in gauged up a
manner as you want, you get,you're like 10 seconds with the
casting team.
So if they're wondering thewhole time about what that thing
is, then you've lost them.
And so in that instance, it'ssometimes the best to lead with
it and just demystify theprocess.
(36:00):
Because I think it shows.
Like there's so many things thatas a person casting somebody
that, that impresses the heckout of there's the grit
resilience component of look atthis pardon me?
You can edit this out, look atthis.
Bad-ass cutting in here doingthe thing.
Wow.
Look at them.
And with acting, you know,almost all of the time costuming
(36:21):
can handle any of those, youknow if you happen to have an
insulin come or, or a Dexcom,but Other times, you know, he
will, and I let him choose whathe, what he wears it, auditions
and things too.
And so some of it is if he'swearing a t-shirt that day and
he's swinging his arm around andyou see it, we just don't worry
about it because film auditionsaren't in person, you're filming
(36:43):
it.
You know, you submit a video,whereas the theater audition
you're up there dancing around.
They see you you're live in thesame space.
And so in that instance, Let,you know, if he wants to wear
something that's showing, thenrock it out, man.
And we, we just let it go.
And we don't say anything aboutit.
And then other times he willshare that and have that
(37:06):
conversation ahead of time.
But once he's cast in aproduction, whether it's a
theater production or he's goingon set for a film production,
then we do have theconversation.
So once you're you're hiring.
Then it's important that peopleknow what's going on, but he
just shot he was just on set fora Netflix TV show just a few
(37:27):
weeks ago.
And it was a one night onlything.
It was a show that they were inpost production on they've
already shot it.
It's an animated production.
So we'll share what the title isonce they like put it out in the
spring.
You're not supposed to say titleahead of time.
You know, he just was doing thisfun one night only doubling in
thing where he had to run for.
(37:50):
Oh, it was about three hours.
He's the only kid.
He's the only actor on.
It was 103 heat index and he hadto run from here to there over
and over and over wearing aflannel fleece lined shirt,
jeans, and a button up shirts.
And I'm going okay withoutdiabetes.
(38:12):
That is a nightmarish physicalchallenge and I'm going, oh my
gosh.
So I have just got pounds oflike fruit snacks and we've got
water and the production teamwas great.
So they've got like, everybody'ssurround with like water and
fans and towels.
And so after each shoot, hewould come back like a box or go
into the corner and I'm throwingsugar in his mouth.
(38:34):
And one of the costuming peopleis patting him down and
everybody's around trying tokeep him well.
We didn't tell them that aheadof time, we just got on set and
said, here's the deal.
He's a diabetic.
He's going to be eating a lot ofsugar.
We'll let you know if there's anissue.
And they're like, what?
So, and it went great.
(38:56):
He's in a production right now.
He's in a theater production.
And theater is actually harderthan film
Katie (39:02):
Yeah, you can't stop.
Hannegan (39:04):
can't stop.
You can't just not go on foryour entrance.
You can't, you can't stop.
Has done quite a few shows sincebeing diagnosed about three
years ago and each time it'sbeen a different experience
because he's at a different agein life and hormones, you know,
we're 12, we're almost 13.
So we're, we're riding the wholerollercoaster body changes.
(39:26):
So this show each night, we justmake sure and my husband and I
take turns being backstage withhim.
He's the only kid in the show aswell.
So he doesn't have like peopleto hang with.
So we just take turns beingbackstage with him and we turn
off all of his alarms.
And then one of us is justwatching on the decks, the
follow app the whole time.
And two of the last three biteswe've had performances.
(39:48):
He's been, if those of you whohave a Dexcom gonna know what it
means, a hundred, 107 doublearrows down like minutes before
curtain.
And we're going, oh, we're justspending insulin.
We're 10 bays laying down.
We're throwing fruit snacks andthen cheese crackers.
And you're just trying to get itback up.
Two nights ago, we ended up thendealing with a rebound high the
(40:11):
whole night overnight, forgetsleeping, but last night it went
better and he just hung rightaround one 60 ish the whole,
after we got out of that initiallow.
And so it's got turned off allthose alarms and just watch it.
Cause you can't.
That was our fear is going out.
You're entering.
It's a very serious show.
(40:31):
And now
Katie (40:32):
Yeah.
Right.
Hannegan (40:34):
yes.
Katie (40:34):
Yeah.
That's true.
I guess the only alarm you don'tchoice over is the urgent low.
They turn that one on for goodreason.
think that's
Hannegan (40:42):
for good reason.
And so we just sit there andjust pass.
Fruit snacks the whole time.
And he was at a show at school afew years ago, and I had a high
school student who is going intonursing.
And so we jokingly, but alsolike good future experience.
Put her in charge of himbackstage as the, his medical
(41:03):
assistants.
And this gal is now a senior andshe's about to graduate and is
going into that field and she'lltell people, oh, I had backstage
theater experiences, the medicalassistants.
James and James and the giantpeach, like I was his person.
So he'd come off stage and she'dcheck all the things and did a
great job.
And so I think it's good to knowthat having people on your team,
(41:26):
that you can build littlesupport, pods, you whatever
you're doing in life.
You've got to know how toself-advocate know how say what
you need and then keep peopleinformed.
But it's still a high wire actwhen you're on today.
Katie (41:40):
know my daughter does not do any acting.
I mean, she does other actuallynot too long ago.
She was mommy, I think when Igrow I want to be an actress and
I was oh, okay, great.
Well, we probably to get you.
Well, I like, oh, well weprobably need to get you into
like classes and voice lessons.
And she's like, No, I don't ThenI'm like, okay.
(42:00):
I don't think you reallyunderstand the work that has to
go into wanting be an actor oran actress You grow up.
But does dance in, she's, it's,that's totally different.
Cause with theater, you, youmight have long time dance.
You're usually in and out liketo five So, so yeah, that was
her, her first recital cup backin June little for just,
Hannegan (42:23):
I remember seeing those posts.
Yeah.
Katie (42:25):
you just don't want send her out she's to have low, But
really happen in course of fiveminutes?
Like not whole lot.
So I, I had to keep remindingonly stage five minutes.
if she some sort of.
Treatment, know, she'll be, beoff soon, but you know, but like
there's so excitement being onstage and like, you know, it's
(42:48):
the whole Yeah.
Yeah.
Nerves.
Yep.
I
Hannegan (42:54):
And you know, if they're getting older too, like
I, you know, I find myself nowworrying about things.
Taking a test in class, youknow, he's going to be 13 this
year.
And so he's still in middleschool, but he takes algebra up
with the high schoolers.
And so this is his first kind oflike adult to you're looking
academic class and all of asudden, you know, I'm going, oh
(43:15):
my gosh, he's taking a test tosugar 240 right now, is that
affecting?
I don't know.
You know, he's not done thatkind of academic more
traditional looking academicwork that way before.
And so there's so much.
Every year, you know, it's a newset of challenges that you're
figuring out.
And it's really hard adjustingback to in-person.
(43:37):
School has been really hard thisyear.
Like our numbers have been amess this month and we're three
years in like we're on a callwith the endocrinologist every
couple of days right now going,okay.
Here's what we're seeing nowbecause I like to try to keep
numbers as tight as I can.
So I do get frustrated when Isee.
Katie (43:54):
Yeah.
Hannegan (43:55):
Figure it out, you know, have like, I've been doing
this for two years.
Why don't I have anendocrinology agree degree back
to remind myself yeah, you, youdo the best you can, but
sometimes you've just got to gethelp and get the pros to sort
things out.
So,
Katie (44:11):
Oh, yeah, And then just you've said, like, obviously so
much Like kind of in thosechanging quickly and all the
time his age and getting readyto hit the teen years then this
huge transition to school, youknow, I think I think, I think
that's totally normal to have.
Some weeks where everything Wedefinitely experienced that at
(44:33):
the beginning of the year.
It was just hot the first coupleof weeks.
But you know, we, know what donow to get it it's frustrating
while you're trying to it out,
Hannegan (44:44):
Oh, yeah.
And I'm definitely prone to likerage bolusing.
Like, well, if you have astubborn high or then a stubborn
low, so that, that rollercoaster where you
overcompensate, because you'refrustrated because why can't I
just care enough to fix this formy kid?
I think that's one of thehardest.
Part of parenting, it is whycan't I just care enough to fix
(45:05):
this?
And that's just not how it goes.
So now it goes to, you've got tobe kind to yourself and be
patient with the process.
Cause it's hard.
Katie (45:13):
I know.
what do you think?
do you think favorite?
Thing he's done recently, Iguess I can't say his whole
career.
Cause that started when he wasthree years old, but like do you
think prefers theater or prefersprefer, it sounds he just kinda
little bit of everything, butlike on more.
What
Hannegan (45:31):
Yeah, well, that's a great question in him.
He is very socially motivated.
So I would say anything he getsto do that has other kids
involved, whether it's, youknow, we're, we're the group of
kids and Matilda where you'reoff stage together and you're on
stage together.
He loves a social scene.
He very much derive energy fromother folks.
(45:53):
Who's a true extrovert.
So the experiences in theater,he, you know, he was in a
production of Macbeth a fewyears ago, which you would not
think, oh boy, what a delightfulshow for a child.
it was a really.
They were inspired by the horrormovie, the ring, which I haven't
even seen, but I know it's gotlike the creepy little girl with
(46:14):
like the hair ever face.
So they cast three teen girls asthe three witches and Macbeth.
And they did like the very muchlike the ring, the hair and the
white nightgown, super creepy.
And they went like splasher gorefast, like blood splattering on
wall.
It was a Berry.
Impressive production.
And we have a professionaltheater company in the city that
(46:37):
we're 10 minutes away from.
That is like an internationallyrenowned theater company.
I'm not giving names.
Cause I don't like to give lowyou get it.
Yeah.
Locations, location.
Katie (46:46):
No worries.
Hannegan (46:47):
So he was like a child soldier in it.
They were only on onstage forprobably less than 10 minutes,
but there were about a dozenboys, his age and they were all
about this was pre diagnosis.
So I guess this would have beenwhen he was eight, that first
year he signed with this agency.
So all these little boys hangingaround just getting to have the
(47:08):
best time ever backstage.
And then they got to go out andbe part of this very creepy
production.
But when.
About some of the things he'sinto now, which is fight
choreography, stunt performing,I think back to that show and
go, oh my gosh, he loved tostand in the wings and watch
these amazing, full grown menwith their giant.
(47:29):
Broadswords doing astoundingfive choreography and he loved
it because it's dance to peoplewho do it.
And so you would think of how onearth would a show tonight?
Dancer boy ended up doing this,but it's all choreography.
And when he wants to see hisvideos and he watches people
learn how to do it.
(47:49):
It's just like learning dance.
You know, everybody has to beexactly where they're supposed
to be and you have to count.
You've got to have all yourmoves just right.
So to him, it's all part of thesame world, but he loved
watching those guys fight.
And he would tell me about likethe different, special effects
each night.
Well, the intestines tonight didthis, which sounds very dark and
(48:10):
horrible, but it's hilarious ifyou're involved in theater and
he, you know, he didn't find anyof it scary because he's like,
this is mommy.
They have a baby pool backstagewhere they rinse the blood off
the, if you thought it
Katie (48:23):
amazing, sweetheart.
Hannegan (48:25):
it's amazing.
So the intestines hit theground.
You say.
So he loved being in Macbeth.
And then as far as filmprojects, his favorite one that
he's been in in terms of like,he loves the finished product
too.
Like he loved the movie is amovie called ICU that starts
(48:45):
Helen Hunt.
So if you remember Helen Hunt,
Katie (48:48):
Twister
Hannegan (48:49):
so yeah, All the things you.
So the movie I see you, everyoneshould go see it.
His eye MDB is linked in ourInstagram.
If you want to go look up a fewtitles and such, he's gotten to
do some good ones, but I see youwas the win-win because he got
be with another little boy.
And so he, and this kid, thiskid is.
(49:11):
Young, Sheldon.
Why at McClure is his name?
He's a great kid actor.
He's on young Sheldon.
So it was he and why it had thebest time just hanging around on
set.
And they got to work with astunt choreographer, which now
works us.
Like I want to go back in timeand ask that man, everything.
Cause this was pre pre stunts,Spencer like a, this year thing,
(49:32):
but they got to work with achoreographer because they had
to run through the.
That was it.
There's just running, runningthrough the woods, but they had
to, you know, there was safetythings.
They had to keep in mind whothey're renting and they got to
paddle around on like railroadtracks and things like that.
So it's just a handful of littleflashback scenes, but he had
such a great learningexperience.
(49:53):
The end had a lot of fun withthe other kiddo.
So every time he's onset, heloves learning.
You know how they set up all thescenes and like being, being in
films.
It's a very slow process.
You sit around on set for 12hours to shoot for less than 15
minutes.
Katie (50:09):
Oh, my gosh.
Hannegan (50:11):
So you've got to really be interested and patient
to do that, that process.
And so for him, it's justlearning everywhere.
You're looking at how they'relighting it, how they're solving
problems, how they're doingcontinuity things.
And so for a curious person,it's a masterclass.
Learning how large-scalecollaboration and patients over
(50:33):
time, how, how that all comestogether to make a finished
product and is very much thatway as well.
That'd be very patient andcomfortable with chaos.
Katie (50:42):
Yes.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
I, have no idea.
Honestly.
I've been in the, I did theaterwhen I high school, but I've
never film world, but yeah, it ahuge production.
My and I are watching all theHarry movies now, or like the
books and then watching themovies and we watched Yeah, we
watched a little bit like themaking kind of like behind
scenes And just when, when youwere talking about all of I was
(51:07):
just thinking like the scenesand how massive all that was.
it just
Hannegan (51:12):
it's incredible
Katie (51:14):
Hey, I got to
Hannegan (51:14):
forever.
Katie (51:16):
Oh, I know.
curious because has he Cobra Kaion Netflix?
Hannegan (51:23):
Oh, we love Coca-Cola.
Katie (51:25):
And I'm sure he does.
He know that Mary can't evenremember her name on the show,
but that's her name in reallife?
She's a T one D
Hannegan (51:32):
Yeah.
She's a T one B he figured thatout.
Actually.
I didn't know that.
And so he found that outsomewhere and now we follow her
on Instagram as well.
I would love to know how they.
Yeah, handle the sugar with allthe action sequences and things.
I'm sure, you know, it's thesame way.
The rest of them all too.
You just have to plan ahead.
(51:54):
I was telling my mom thismorning that, you know, Brooks
goes to a par core class eachweek and his par core class
starts at seven 30 and nights.
We start getting ready to go atfive.
We start temp bailing back, andstart slowly getting your sugar
up because you can go in therewith your sugar and great range
and be 50 double arrows downwithin 20 minutes of flipping
(52:15):
and jumping and running.
And so I'm sure she has tohandle it all the same way.
You just gotta start planningahead of time to make sure you
land where you need to land atthe right time.
But some of the fight sequencesincredible.
So good.
Katie (52:29):
I feel like that would be right up his alley.
Not only is it likechoreographed fight sequences,
but she's also type one thatsets.
awesome.
So how do you, I, I know I justgot up before we sign off.
got to know like, how do Youguys handle it when he's like
set for something, with your,with your work and everything?
how do you, cause you have to bethere.
right?
assuming
Hannegan (52:49):
have to be there.
Yes.
Yeah, one of us has to be there.
Yes.
And so my husband, we'refortunate in that he has a job
that can be flexible.
And this was before everybodywas working remotely, his
company, he was able to workremotely a few years ago.
So when the rest of us allsigned on to zoom for the first
time, he's like welcome to ourworld.
(53:10):
This is what we've been doing.
And he has, he has a wonderfuljob and he's in a position.
He has the precedent in hiscompany.
And so he has some flexibilityand freedom.
He works his butt off, but he'sable to do it wherever.
And so when Brooks has had to dothings that are out of state, I
mean, it kills me because, youknow, Brookside the little peas
(53:31):
in a pod.
So it kills me.
I want to go so bad.
And if something is within anhour or so, and it's just a day
or two, then I can do.
But if it's something that'sgoing to be a couple of weeks or
more of than my husband is theone that gets to go do it.
And so they go, they have awonderful adventure.
They keep me posted, butteaching is not a flexible job.
(53:52):
And so you know we definitelyhave to rely on my husband's job
being more flexible becausesomebody gotta be able to go.
You got to go with.
And move.
And you don't often have a lotof notice, especially with film
theater, you see it coming andthere's a rehearsal schedule.
There's a process we're filmed.
You can audition and forgetabout it.
Cause we always just forgetabout it.
(54:12):
After you submit, we go on withour lives, what that was fun,
move on.
And then you get a call and youneed to be on set in a day and
it's, you know, you got totravel, you've got to figure it
all out.
And so it you do have to figureout a way as a family.
Keep some level of flexibilityand that's hard, but we also,
you know, we try to make surethat this is one part of his
(54:34):
world and he is one member ofour family.
So we also make sure that ourfamily is very balanced and
that, that isn't the centerpieceof our world.
And I say that with love that,you know but I know some
families make choices.
Have like a live in a differentcity for part of the year and
(54:55):
things like that.
And they kind of like make thechild's career, the center of
everything.
And we have definitely made achoice as a family unit to not
do that.
And no judgements people who do,but our interest is healthy,
happy, mentally.
Well, young men, if they moveinto adulthood and we feel like
being balanced with yourinterests and balanced with your
(55:17):
family is what we find to be themost important.
So
Katie (55:21):
Oh yeah, definitely.
Hannegan (55:22):
that makes sense.
Katie (55:23):
I, Yeah.
it definitely does.
It's a great
Hannegan (55:25):
So it's a fun adventure.
It is not the centerpiece of hisworld.
And that is by choice because wefeel like that's part of taking
care of him.
Yeah.
Katie (55:33):
think that's have really loved having you on, hearing
about your family and aboutBrooks and, and you guys cannot
see, but there's also, there'sbeen a co guest this whole time,
little miss DocSend has sittingon Hannigan's lap and She is so
cute.
I had doxins growing And sothat's bringing back.
Hannegan (55:53):
approves of all of this.
Yes.
Katie (55:55):
sh she clearly does.
She is like, love living it up.
She's like snuggled up to hershoulder.
I always get so jealous ofpeople with small dogs, because
I love my dog so much.
And I would just be so excitedif He, could sit, sit in my lap
right now while I'm talking toyou, but he's 80 pounds and it
would
Hannegan (56:12):
He, yeah, well, she's our, she's our big, tiny dog,
and this is how tiny shoes, butwe have a Chihuahua, half her
thighs, a little bunny that yousometimes see on Instagram.
And then our big dog is awhopping 20 pounds.
The Boston terrier Tucker and.
Bonnie and Tucker tend to end upon Instagram more than the
queen.
(56:32):
The queen is very much, I'm nota big fan of social media.
So if you get camera out, likeshe will like scoff and doxins
are very, very smart.
That's right then.
Yes The 12 on Boston terrier,their game, they love the
Instagram and the pig talk.
So.
Katie (56:50):
I, love it.
Speaking of Instagram and ticktalk, I will definitely put in
the notes and I'll mention it ineither the intro or the ultra of
the show where people can findyou guys and I'll put a link
Hannegan (57:00):
Oh boy.
Katie (57:01):
if
Hannegan (57:01):
Yep.
Katie (57:01):
with it, I'll put a link to Brooks's.
I am DB and
Hannegan (57:05):
yeah, I think that's delightful.
Katie (57:07):
you're comfortable with, but
Hannegan (57:09):
Yeah, I think that's lovely.
Well, thank you so much.
This has been great fun toactually get to see you and chat
with you.
So thank you.
Katie (57:16):
you're welcome.
All right.
Well, you
Hannegan (57:18):
I'll look forward to hearing it then.
You say hi to your little.
Katie (57:23):
I will.
don't even doing right now.
Dad.
I rarely record on the weekends.
It's a Sunday right now forthose people listening, but not
sure where they, I feel liketried get him out of the though
I, or they're watching football.
I'm not sure if one or the oneor the other.
Hannegan (57:37):
very quiet here too.
I'm like w where is everybody?
So enjoy it and join the peaceand quiet mom.
Katie (57:43):
Exactly.
Hannegan (57:44):
All right, well, I'll see you on Instagram them.
Katie (57:47):
So you're there.
Well, that's it for our showtoday.
I hope you guys love thatconversation with me and
Hannigan.
I just so badly want to beadopted into their family.
I was a thespian in high schooland I just love all things
(58:07):
related to theater and musicalsand the arts and, and bonus.
They just went on a giant tripto Disney world and I'm a huge
Disney fan.
So.
If you guys are ever looking forlike bonus family members or
extra family members, Roseberryfamily I'm available.
I'm just, just throwing it outthere.
I'm available again.
(58:28):
You guys need to go follow themon Instagram and Tik TOK.
There are lots of fun to follow.
Always doing fun, silly, goofystuff, and really amazing stuff.
Their handle is at Hanniganunderscore.
Brooks, I will put a link tothat in the show notes as
always.
Okay.
Sugar mamas have a fabulousweek.
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