June 9, 2025 • 38 mins
"We’re not parenting experts. We’re just trying not to cry into a $40 cupcake while wandering a Disney mall in the Florida summer…"
Amanda and Josh explore the complicated "relationship DMZ" that follows separation when kids are involved, sharing their personal experiences navigating co-parenting challenges and offering practical advice for others in similar situations.
Talking Points
- Disney Springs Review
- Free ferry boat ride
- Different approaches to post-separation living arrangements
- Domestic Did-you-knows
- Mailbag
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Familiar Wilson's Media Relationships are the
story.
You are made of meat, my friend, all the way down.
The following podcast useswords like and and also.
If you're not into any of thatshit, then now's your chance.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Three, two, one run.
I'm super familiar with you.
Wilson run.
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Get it.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Welcome to Super Familiar with the Wilsons.
I'm Amanda.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
And I'm Josh and we are the podcast that's about
marriage 2.0 with kids and allof the side quests, and today
we're going to talk about one ofthose side quests.
We're also going to talk aboutthe Marriage 2.0 part a little
bit.
We are going to delve into thatweird relationship, dmz that
(00:52):
happens right after you separatefrom your spouse.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Especially if you have kids.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yeah, that's super tricky.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
So we're going to chat a little bit about how we
did that, and maybe y'all outthere can relate.
It'll either convince you toyou know, really work hard to
try to do it right, or it mightconvince you to, hey, we need to
go to therapy and then not getdivorced.
I don't know what it'llconvince you to do, yeah, but
then some people go to therapyand still need to get divorced.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
So let's not put it out there that just because you
go to therapy, it means youshould stay married.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yes, that's true.
We're not saying that either.
That's true.
Okay, all right.
Well, that's a little bit toopointed.
You're saying that what we needto go to therapy, what's
happening right now?
I've considered it lately,menopause is getting in the way
of our congeniality Sounds likea you problem.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
No, friend, because you are like you.
Don't even let me finish mysentences anymore.
I'll start to say something andyou've, in your head, thought
what I'm going to say, and soyou cut me off.
And one it angers me becauseyou've cut me off.
And two, you're typically wrongabout you, think I'm going to
be pissy about something becauseI'm menopause and I'm not like
I'm just trying to say somethingelse, which makes it even worse
.
So, yeah, actually Maybe weshould go to some counseling so
(02:01):
that you can have strategies fordealing with me during
menopause and I can havestrategies for you dealing with
whatever it is that's happeningto you.
Why are you just staring at me?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Welcome to Super Familiar with Dr Wilson.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I'm.
Josh and this is Amanda.
This is Josh doing the podcastby himself, moving on to 3.0.
Oh God, no please forget it.
Nope, no, this is the last oneif this one doesn't work out,
you're done no, no, no, no, I'mgonna invest in the monkery.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Is that a thing?
I'm gonna become part of themonkery?
I don't know um, but first, wewent to orlando yesterday,
didn't we?
We did so that was fun forthose of you who live in florida
, or maybe for those of you whodon't.
Orlando is a place in thecenter of our state that is
supposed to be the happiestplace on the planet.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, lies, lies have been told to you by the
marketing company.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
But I do have a little bit of a review, my
review of the place that wevisited, Disney Springs.
Amanda, can you tell the folkswhat Disney Springs is if they
don't know what it is?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Sure, so Disney Springs was originally created
as Downtown Disney is what itwas called, and it's on the
outskirts of all of the themeparks and they created this
dining, shopping, nightlife clubexperience.
There used to be an under 18club there called Videopolis
that I went to in like the late80s, early 90s, like a teen club
(03:24):
.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Oh, I'm not familiar with this.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
like parents would drop us off and we would dance
in there.
It was kind of like the set ofmaybe apollo abdul video, like
the metal scaffolding whenthey're doing building, like
that kind of like.
Have you ever seen stomp theband?
Yeah yeah, or like the showstomp, like all the stuff that
they climb on.
We used to go and dance there.
One time when I was 14.
For my friend's 14th, herparents rented a limo for
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14-year-olds.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
No.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
And we lived about 40 minutes from there, right, just
straight down the interstate.
Her parents rented a limo, didnot go with us, left us with the
limo driver.
He took us to Orlando, droppedus off, we did all of the
dancing.
He picked us back up when itclosed at like one o'clock in
the morning and drove us home.
What?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
sort of weird like imprivileged life did you lead
there in Lakeland Florida?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I mean, that was my friend's birthday.
I was just along for the ride.
But also I can't imagine usletting any of our children at
14 get in a vehicle with a lotof 14 year olds and a strange
man we don't know and lettinghim drive them out of town and
bringing them back home at twoin the morning absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Nope, no, would not happen all right.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
So that used to be downtown disney, now it is
disney springs.
It is a giant entertainmentcomplex.
There is a lego store, there'sa rainforest cafe, there's a
t-rex cafe, cirque du soleil hasa venue there.
Tons of food and they're alllike hey morimoto and hey guy
fieri and like hey, all of thechefs have restaurants there and
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, uh, giant shopping things likethere's the world of disney,
which is massive, but thenthere's also like ron johns is,
it's a surf shop, if you're notfamiliar, and like Anthropologie
and Sephora, so regularshopping things, but then also
like a bakery that you have toget on a virtual queue in the
morning to get in line for, oryou're not getting in for the
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entire day.
It is just, it's a bigproduction.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
So that is your overview.
Now let's hear my review ofDisney Springs.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
All right, go for it.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Disney Springs is the upscale swamp mall where
children's dreams go to buyartisan lollipops and their
parents pretend capitalism isn'toff the rails.
It's not a theme park.
It's a consumeristhallucination wrapped in a
cartoon mouse carcass and toppedwith a working volcano.
It's like a luxury outlet mall.
Had a baby with an airportconcourse and then raised it on
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Instagram.
Ads and old childhood traumacoping mechanisms that is an
accurate description.
You'll walk three miles just tospend $40 on a cupcake that
tastes like an asbestos rainbow.
There'll be a Lego sea serpentjudging you from the lagoon like
a plastic god of poor spendingdecisions.
Above it, a tethered hot airballoon that charges you $25 to
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go nowhere slowly.
Doesn't that sound like an aptanalogy for life?
Right now, you'll eatoverpriced arepas next to a
steampunk paddleboat, while acosplaying bartender dressed
like a leather-bound wine listtries to convince your children
that this is called magic.
And then, because you'redelirious, you'll buy a scented
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candle labeled Haunted Mansionin August for $100, and you'll
call it a good deal.
It's capitalism on paradewearing mouse ears and crooning
it's a small world, after allover a Bluetooth speaker.
And you will cry when thevolcano at the Rainforest Cafe
starts spitting fire, because bythen, it's the only thing
around that's showing genuineemotion.
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So yeah, we had a good time.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
And that damn volcano .
It only erupts like every 25minutes and so Winthrop wants to
see it erupt and so we have tosit there now.
Fortunately, you guys went onthe carousel because this is the
only like little ride he canget there because there's a
spinny thing in it.
So you sit in.
It spins around really fast.
You like took one for the team,but also you kind of like dug
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in my side a little bit becausehe asked me if I was riding with
him and I said no, because Iwould throw up.
And you said I'll do it withyou, winthrop, I love you, and I
was like you know what, goahead, and I hope you throw up,
because it was about 102 degreesand that.
But then, right when you guysgot off of that, the volcano
spewed its gassy fire and thenwe were able to go into the
Christmas store and recover fromthe heat.
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It it's the strangest place,but we did do something
yesterday that didn't cost usanything and was a nice break
from it, right.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
We did.
We got on the tugboat.
What is it?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
It's like a little ferry.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
There's a ferry that goes between this Disney Springs
Mall and all of the Disneyresorts, and so they have themed
resorts, they've got the FrenchQuarter Resort, they've got the
Key West Resort, they haveSaratoga Springs Resort, and you
can get on this boat and betaken to all these things for
free and, to be honest, that'sthe best time that I had there.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Okay, it was chill, it was about 20 minutes each way
.
Right, it doesn't go to all theresorts, it only goes to those
four.
But we went over and, you know,spent maybe 10 minutes in key
west and got on the boat andwent back, but it was about an
hour all told and it waswinthrop was very chill on the
boat.
It wasn't hot on the boat, itwas.
It was really nice.
So, pro tip, if you happen tobe at disney springs and the
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weather is not bad, because theywill stop running if there's
weather.
Uh, look for I think they'recalled the Friendship Boats.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
And go, look for that exit of Disney Springs which is
near Rainforest Cafe area andgo out and get the boats.
And I recommend you go toFrench Quarter We've been before
so we didn't this time but youcan go over there and get some
overpriced beignets and hearsome piped in jazz music and
then come back.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, price beignets and hear some piped in jazz
music and then come back, yeah,and the reason why we ended up
going to disney springs in thefirst place is because we had to
drop muffy off at the airportin orlando and we decided that,
since we are in orlando anyway,let's go do this.
I knew what I was in for.
I've been to disney springsmany times.
It's super crowded, but I willsay that this boat trip made it
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worth it yeah because it wasdifferent and it was calm and
all the things.
So yeah, that is our review andour overview of disney springs.
I don't know if we recommend itor not.
I think I would give it like Idon't know two and a half stars.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I think if you're there and it's in the evening,
it's fine.
It just was about 174 degrees.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yes, and speaking of the volcano, I too was spewing
hot fire after the meal I ate.
That's a different story.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Oh okay, excellent, Good, but did you notice?
I pointed out to you.
So we were eating like a reallyexpensive counter service
barbecue meal.
We were sitting outside, rightoutside of the restaurant and we
were eating like a reallyexpensive counter service
barbecue meal.
We were sitting outside, rightoutside of the restaurant, and
we were watching people go by.
Zero people look happy there.
Like no one looks happy there.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
You want to know why?
Because vacations, these days,aren't supposed to be happy.
You've got too much to do.
You got to get there.
You got to make sure to get inline and spend your money.
There's no room for happinessthere.
The happiness comes later, whenyou realize that you're home in
your own bed.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I know I spent all this money to just be happy for
my own bed.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah, there you go Excellent.
So this is a little bit of aserious topic.
I'm not sure we're going totreat it that way, but bit of a
serious topic.
I'm not sure we're going totreat it that way, but it is a
serious topic.
If you're listening to this andyou're in the middle of
separating from your spouse andyou have kids, take a breath.
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It's going to be hard, but wedid it and we're here to talk
about it.
And also if you're listeningand you've also gone through
this and you've navigated thesewaters, I want to hear from you.
Familiarwilson's at gmailcom.
I will tell you that it'spossible that going through this
experience will change youdrastically.
(11:15):
For example, I probably cannotlisten to any Adele songs
anymore.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Just that was it.
That was that period in timefor you.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
But I survived.
So there you go.
Wait, just that was that wasthat period in time for you, but
I survived.
So there you go.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Wait, I didn't know this about you.
Was it because you were?
Because Adele's very much likepining and being sad.
Were you being sad that it wasover?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
No, but it was a sad experience and Adele just
happened to be all over theradio at that point.
So yeah, I also appreciate theGloria Gaynor song.
Appreciate the Gloria Gaynorsong, I Will Survive.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yes, I will survive.
I think my anthem during thattime was Someday by Rob Thomas.
You know this song.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yes, I do.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Because it just felt like it was such a long process
and I feel like mine took longerthan yours and I was just like
it is someday we're going to beokay, but it's taking us a while
.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
It's a tough transaction because really what
you're doing is you're dealingwith your own emotional mess
right, yeah.
But then also there is, likethis project that you're working
on together, right?
You got to be able tocommunicate with your ex, almost
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despite the emotional stuff,because now you're doing shift
work in this new company ofGrumpy Little people llc.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Right, that is the most important thing out of this
whole thing, yeah, and I thinkthat it's it's.
I mean I'm not saying it waseasier or harder.
It was different for youbecause the boys had each other
and muffie was just by herself,and so that was that was
difficult, because she was goingback and forth.
So we did it different than youdid.
You guys kept the kids in thehouse for a while and shifted in
and out of the house.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
And we couldn't figure out how to make this work
, because I didn't really wantto pay mortgage on this house
that we owned and then also gorent a house, and so what we did
for a little while was I wouldlive in the house for a week
with the children, and then I'dgo stay at a friend's house and
then she would live at the housefor a week and the children
would stay, and then she wouldgo stay in her parents' house.
That just became, I don't know.
That just didn't work.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
It didn't work.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
We as the adults who needed to keep ourselves really
together were very unsettled bythat and I don't feel like it
set a good foundation for us tobe able to deal.
I think it came from a goodplace.
It just didn't functionallywork out.
So I ended up going and rentinga house and then she came and
she moved back into the oldhouse and that's how we did it.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
How long did you do that for?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Not very long.
We didn't do it for very long.
First of all, I wasinconveniencing our very good
friends who were being very kindto me but, I, felt bad about
doing it and, like I said, itwas just wearing us both down.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
I do think it comes from a good place, because it is
hard for kids to go back andforth.
It is what we did for Muffy,was we got her hamsters so they
could go back and forth with her, since she didn't have a
sibling.
That ended tragically with onehamster eating the other hamster
while she was at the otherhouse and I midnight or 10
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o'clock or nine o'clock,whatever, and triage all of that
.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
So that it was difficult.
The one hamster, though, stayeduntil almost till you and I got
married.
Like that one hung out for awhile, but our process took a
little bit longer, just with youknow, legal fees and everything
to have it, because gettingdivorced is not inexpensive
either, and I don't think eitherone of us really had a
contentious divorce.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Oh no, not inexpensive either.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
And I don't think either one of us really had a
contentious divorce oh no, notat all, and so it was just we.
I think we wound up using anattorney as a mediator.
I think you guys didn't evenhave to use an attorney.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
No, no, no, no.
That's what.
That's what the online formsare for, yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
But that was not going to happen just due to
other things in that previousrelationship.
So it took a while and it's notan inexpensive process.
So the more that you can beamenable to each other, the
better off it will be for you.
And I was very, very careful tonot say anything about the
other parent to the child,although sometimes it's really
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hard because you want to bedefensive of yourself but you
can't because it's not about youat that point, it's about the
child.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
One of the things that I intuited very quickly is
that my children are not myemotional support animals.
That's what pets and friendswho can buy you expensive things
are for right.
Who can take you out and sayokay we're going to go get wine
or beer or whatever.
But you can be sad.
I was sad in front of them.
I did not want them at all tothink that I didn't care, but I
never wanted them to feelresponsible for my feelings.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
My parents stayed together until I moved out, when
I was like right after collegeand was 25, and my parents got
divorced.
But I knew they were unhappyand I always felt responsible
for my mom's happiness.
She didn't say that I was, butI just felt that I was because I
knew she was unhappy.
So I didn't ever want to bethat and one of the reasons why
I decided that this was a thingthat needed to happen is that
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Muffy used to say to me mommy,why don't you smile?
You don't smile as like athree-year-old and so that was
really like, okay, something Ineed attention to what it what
I'm putting out into the world.
Sure, so, and we did thecounseling route.
So I'm not saying that youshouldn't do it, you should do
it, and sometimes things areirreparable and sometimes
they're irreparable.
But it will definitely help toum, to focus on the children.
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But do you remember the firstthing you said to me when you
guys got separated?
no, I don't so this, so this ishow I remember this.
So you and I knew each otherright, but we didn't hang out or
anything like that, we justknew each other and we kind of
occupied the same social circlesand so we were at an event and
I was there, had Muffy with mebecause it was a family event.
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I think you were showing someartwork.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
And you came up to me .
I was sitting down and you cameup to me.
I said hey, baby.
No, you did not.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
And you just held your left hand out at me and you
didn't have your wedding ringon, but I had no idea what you
were doing.
You were just like showing meyour left hand.
I was like okay, and you werelike something's missing.
I was like okay, dude, we don'tknow each other like this and
I'm really confused and I washolding my hand out for you to
kiss it.
You were not like, yeah, likeWinthrop when he came out of his
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surgery and made us all kisshis hand because he thought he
was a little prince coming outof anesthesia.
That's a whole different story,anyway.
And then you said you know weseparated.
And you said can you and I havecoffee sometime, because I've
been watching you and the otherperson and you seem to be doing
it well for Muffy.
So I don't know if this wasyour intro line or we really
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were just expressing to theworld that we were doing it well
, even though I was going alittle insane.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
But that was our first conversation.
Let's be very clear that thatwas totally innocent and, yes, I
was definitely not ready tojump back into anything at all.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
No and yes, I was definitely not ready to jump
back into anything at all.
No and.
I think that we sporadicallyhad coffee for like a year or so
and I wasn't even.
I think you guys kind offast-tracked it and got divorced
a lot quicker.
And then the day that I went tothe courthouse and we signed
everything, I texted you and youcame and had coffee with me.
But we were still friends atthat point in time.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
We were just sort of supporting each other through
this, this really awful thing.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yep, yep.
And the other thing again.
I kind of already mentioned it,but the other thing I wanted to
reiterate is the fact that youneed to learn how to communicate
with your ex in a way that isconstructive.
You know, for me we had thatpretty early on, because it was
such an amicable thing where wewere both just like, okay, it's
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time for this separation tohappen and we want to make sure
that our kids get the best.
But I know that that doesn'thappen all the time and so I'm
not trying to paint thiswonderful pictures with flowers
and fairy tales and butterflies,but it just so happened.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
It wasn't always smooth and easy, but we worked
really hard to try to keep theemotion out of what's best for
the kids yeah and yeah andthat's hard, no matter what, and
recognizing that there are somepeople who are in situations
where you know like they've beenbetrayed or hurt and that makes
it so much harder.
My suggestion there is get areally strong support system
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around you and your children anddefinitely seek help from a
counselor to maybe mediate yourconversation so that you know
how to talk to your kids or youknow if one person's wanting it
and the other person isn't.
Nothing went wrong, it's justit's clear that this is not the
right person for you.
Then that can be a little bittricky too, but I think that if
you continue to focus on thepoint is to get the kids through
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it the best they can, the bestyou can, then that helps, you
know, if you both agree on ithelps anchor you in something
Not saying you won't say to afriend I need to go get wine and
talk a lot of trash abouteverything, because you will,
but you know that's like youdon't talk bad about the boss at
work, but you can go talk badabout the boss after work with
your colleagues.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
That I never do that.
The other thing to keep in mindis that your kids need someone
to talk to about it.
That's not you or not your ex.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
And I think a lot of people miss that.
And you, I've talked to theboys.
It's been like 12, 13 years orwhatever, and they're both
adults now and I've talked tothem even recently and learned
things about their process andlearned things about what they
thought and how they werefeeling that I never knew yeah
you know so, but luckily both ofthem have talked to therapists,
you know, throughout theirlives so my last little thing
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here is don't rush to introducenew people to your children yeah
, no, yeah and when I say newpeople, I mean like new people
new significant others or newpossible significant others, and
that's the problem.
Well, there's several problems,but the problem is is if you
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bring someone in and you're like, oh, this is the thing and you
do not want your kids to getattached to that person, only
for them to leave, Yep.
Now with you, though, like Iintroduced you, but it was
definitely just this is a friendof mine, type of thing again
because we existed in the samesocial circle.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
We would have events where the boys would be there
with you and Muffy would bethere with me and we would just
be like hey and chatting.
So we were just friends.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
But you and I were just friends for a long time and
you know, and you continue toknow, my ex-wife and you all
were were friendly acquaintances.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Yeah, no, I mean I had worked with her while you
guys were still married and sheand I get along very well and
you know we get along very wellwith her husband.
She's been married about thesame time that we have and and
you respect him as a, as astepfather for the boys, and so
we really do have the best ofwhat could be a really difficult
situation, um, and we're verygrateful for that, but I think
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everybody worked hard at that.
Like I understood, my space wasnever to insert myself in the
boys' life and or disciplinethem, but to support them.
And so from the very beginningwhen I think when you and I got
married I said to the boys Iknow it's not my job to
discipline you because they wereolder, they were like in middle
school and going into highschool.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I know it's not my job to discipline you and I
won't, but it is my job to keepyou safe.
It didn't hurt that you were ateacher.
You're used to dealing withother people's children.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
And I'd say if a teacher would say it to you, I'm
going to say it to you, and Ithink they respected that and we
were fine.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
One more thing I would say is pretty important as
we moved into different housesand we upend our children's
lives.
That what I did is I workedreally hard to start new rituals
.
Like, okay, we don't do thisthing that we used to do all
together as a family, but me andthe boys, now we're gonna go to
the bagel place everyone canget a bagel, which is one of the
things that we and that was ournew ritual and that instantly
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gave them new grounding.
Like this is a thing now thatwe're gonna do, and it's new and
it's different, but it'sconsistent.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
And then when we started blending, even when we
were still just kind of friendsor maybe like denying things to
ourselves, I think I denied alot longer than you did.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah, you did.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
I would see people out and they would oh, it's
raining.
Sorry, that's not what theywould say.
I just happen to look out thiswindow and it's raining.
That does not bode well for thepool situation that winthrop's
hoping for.
Um, but I would see people outand they would see us together
and you would say they would say, oh, are you on a date?
I'm like, oh no, I would getlike, really, I was like, no,
I'm not on a date.
Um, I didn't mean ooh towardsyou, just the idea of dating.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
No, I didn't.
I love you and you're veryhandsome, but once we got
together, I think that you werethinking marriage before I was,
weren't you?
Speaker 3 (23:57):
no, yeah, no, you brought it up no, sir, you
brought it up and if you want totalk about it we will, but we
should discuss what happened,because it's a little bit of an
intimate situation, before wetalk about that.
So that can be the next one ohno, I don't what.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Is okay, we'll.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
We'll talk about this offline I don't know what
you're thinking about, but no,no, okay, listen, josh,
definitely brought it up beforeme.
There you go um, but anyway now,I'm all curious what I was
saying is that we and everybodyelse is curious too write in and
say what you think happenedthis?
This will be fun.
It's like fanfic for thepodcast.
(24:34):
Well, my point is that when westarted blending the kids
together, like we would dothings out not at anybody's
house, like we go play at thepark or we go to dinner, but
then we started building ritualswith them, because we wound up
having the exact same schedulewith the kids.
So on the nights off, we hadbuilt-in date nights.
(24:54):
And then, when we had the kids,so every Tuesday night, muffy
and I would come to your house,you'd have the boys, you'd cook
dinner and we would watchMasterChef and the Voice, and
then Muffy and I would go home.
And they still talk about thatnow.
They're like remember when weused to do this?
So we started creating a ritualearly on when we blended them,
(25:17):
yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
So final thing, and I'll say this with all the love
in my heart you're gonna screwit up, you're gonna mess it up
and that's okay.
Just go back, say that you'resorry and you try again, and
then one day maybe they'll growup as fully formed and healed
human beings and start a podcastabout how weird their parents
were.
That's right, and that's okay.
And now it's time for TotallyTrue Domestic Did, did, you
(25:51):
knows, with the Wilsons.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Okay, things I'm not aware of.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
No, I want to do more educating on this podcast.
We talked about a little bit ofa serious subject there and I
want to share our wisdom thatwe've gleaned as human beings on
this planet about domesticthings, about the house and
laundry and all those things.
Ready Music please, musicplease.
Tip number one the best way tofind your children is to yell.
(26:22):
I just cleaned this three timesinto an empty room.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
So true, god they're like little wrecking balls he
finds the clean clothes when Ifold it.
I can.
He can be downstairs and I'llbe up here.
I've folded laundry on the bedand he will come running up the
stairs and dive.
No one's told him him, no one'slet him know.
It's like a heat seekingmissile.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Next tip Did you know that your dishwasher doesn't
actually dry dishes, because itruns on the fact that you have
trust issues?
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Sometimes See, no, my dishwasher's playing with me
because sometimes it will drythem and sometimes it won't, and
so I keep coming back for more.
It's got me on the hook.
It's like it's being nice to meone time and then like
gaslighting me the next.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
That's right, trust issues, and that's where it gets
its power from.
Did you know that the onlyknown predator of throw pillows
is a dog?
Speaker 3 (27:14):
A hundred percent.
He's got all these damn toysand he just keeps going for the
throw pillows wait, his littlebed, that's right, there has got
fuzz coming out of it I know?
Speaker 1 (27:25):
did you know that every time you open up your
underwear drawer, it passive,aggressively judges you?
Speaker 3 (27:31):
why, just because of old underwear my no, sir, that's
you I, I.
I keep track of mine and throwaway the stuff that needs to go
away next one.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Did you know that there's no correct way to load
the dishwasher, only anincorrect way?
Speaker 3 (27:47):
and you found it.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I don't think I've discovered yet what your correct
way to load the dishwasher is.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Tetris.
I am going to get as much as Ipossibly can in there.
You'll put a bowl and it'll layover three like slots that you
could be putting stuff on.
I appreciate you loading thedishwasher Sometimes.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Oh, thank you for that.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Sometimes, because I'm just so appreciative of you,
I don't even look in thedishwasher.
I just I know you've loaded.
I open it up, I put soap in it,I close it, I don't look.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Well, that's perfect, that's perfect, that.
So you have a coping skill.
Yeah, that's right.
Did you know that the junkdrawer is the spleen of
household spaces?
Speaker 2 (28:22):
What does that even mean?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
All of the detritus and junk is just filtered into
that.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I keep trying to organize it and it keeps getting
unorganized.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, and then, lastly, did you know that no one
has ever actually finishedfolding a fitted sheet Like
grief?
It's a process, not a task.
No listen, finish folding afitted sheet Like grief.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
It's a process, not a task.
No, listen, I've watched thevideos where they show you how
to fold it.
They lie, they edit it, theyuse CGI.
It's not possible.
You ball that thing up and youthrow it in the linen closet.
That's how you fold that.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
So those are our domestic.
Did you knows?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
hey, josh.
Has anyone reached out to us togive us all the wisdom and or
tell you how wrong you are?
Speaker 1 (29:15):
isn't that what you're here to do?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
yes, so.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
So we do occasionally get emails.
People email us atfamiliarwilsons at gmailcom with
advice, with complaints tomanagement, and so let's see, we
have an email from friend Leo.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Hey Leo.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Leo says this.
Hey, Wilson, it's been a whilebut, as I'm sure you can attest
to, sometimes life seems to movea million miles a minute.
Yes, more and more as we age.
Just a few things to catch upon.
Oh boy, let's see how many.
One, two, three, four, oh, lotsof things that Leo.
I guess he listened to all ofour episodes.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
So he's cataloging?
Yes, he is.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
He says he's shocked by the things that I said about
the farmer's market.
So I don't know if you remember, but I was bemoaning the fact
that they can sell all sorts offruit and veg at the farmer's
market without properlypesticiding them so you can have
maggots and bugs and germs andall the things on this fruit and
vegetable assortment that youcan buy.
And Leo is not agreeing with myassessment.
(30:18):
He says specifically when itcomes to chemicals on vegetables
.
That's one of the reasons whywe frequent the many farmers
markets here Little to no harshchemicals on the vegetables.
Listen, if God didn't meanthere to be chemicals on
vegetables, he wouldn't haveinvented the chemicals.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
I'm with Leo on this one and this is the point.
This is why we wash the fruitand the vegetables.
Now I won't get the pasteurizedmilk.
That concerns me a little bit.
I'm a little concerned aboutthis.
People who sell shrimp out of acooler.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Don't you mean, you won't get the unpasteurized?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
milk.
That's what I meant.
I want pasteurized milk.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
God created pastures as well.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
So we need to have those in our milk, all right.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I referenced the need to have a hat with a curtain.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Yes, Do you remember?
Speaker 1 (30:59):
this yes yes, he says .
As for the hat curtain, yearsago, Prince released a video for
the song my Name is Prince inwhich he wears a hat with a gold
chain curtain.
And yes, I do remember that, IfI am not mistaken, the hat
curtain may have actuallyoriginated with the dandy
movement.
Don't quote me on that, though.
I won't, because I don't knowwhat that means.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I actually do.
I looked up dandy recently andI'm trying to remember why.
I think it was because of themovie centers.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Oh, okay.
Well, there you go.
He continues on.
He says yes, bifocal contactlenses are a thing.
How the hell can you havebifocal contact lenses?
That makes no sense to me.
He says I've worn them for manyyears now.
I have the worst eyesight onthe planet, so macular
degeneration was a foregoneconclusion as I've aged.
Wow, that got heavy.
(31:47):
Don't ask me how they work.
He says Doc gave me a pamphletexplaining it, yet I'm still
clueless.
Something, something, somethingfrom the center of the contact
lens outward.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, no, none the wiser, contact lens outward.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah no, none the wiser, I still want flip up
contact lenses, like DwayneWayne.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Like Dwayne Wayne, I'm glad that they work for you,
leo yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
He says.
I agree with Amanda abouthaving kids stick with the
things they set out to try, evenif it sucks.
My wife and I think it helps inthe long run, and so far it has
.
Our kids are much older now andhave actually mentioned how
stick-to-it-ness.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Stick-to-it-iveness.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Well, he says stick-to-it-ness.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Has helped them in the long run.
Well, he's referencing the factthat we were thinking about
letting Winthrop not continuesoccer.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
But he continued soccer.
Now we might be done withsoccer, who knows?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
No, no, we're going back in the winter league.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
We also talked about what happens to the Halloween
candy.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
And whether we should hide it from them or whether we
should eat it or throw it away,as opposed to giving them the
big pot of candy he says this weused to be the parents who did
the give it to them a little ata time thing.
When it came to Halloween candyOne year my wife declared she
was sick of policing this andsuggested we let them have at it
.
Her reasoning was they wouldburn themselves out and moderate
(33:07):
.
Naturally.
Guess what she was right.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Oh really.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Not to mention our two boys saw it as a bit of a
competition which one could maketheir candy supply last longer.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Okay, a couple of problems that I have with that.
Number one, I'm not willing toclean up the puke.
And number two, I don't knowwhat sort of arrest that would
send them into possibly.
He says yes, I remember Ryan'ssteakhouse.
It rivaled Ponderosa'ssteakhouse.
Yes, there you go.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
See, they got it all the way up where Leo is from.
It wasn't just a Lakeland thing.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
And he says Lastly, I personally do not subscribe to
the AI doomism.
Like anything else, it will bea disruptor in some specialized
segments of the workforce, butAI is not going to take all the
jobs.
Make sure you follow the sourceof the doomism.
You may be surprised to knowthat the ones who are feeding
into it are actually the onesselling you the AI tools.
(34:03):
It's the old game of I'vecreated something so deadly that
I'm the only one who can saveyou from it.
Well, we shall see.
I hope you're right.
I hope you're right.
I hope that AI is used fornothing but to benefit human
beings and that it won't be usedby the ultra rich to take
advantage of all of the rest ofus and take all of our money.
(34:26):
Wink, wink.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
You are so cynical.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah, I am.
I'm in my 50s.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
I'm now in my 50s.
This is the first time I'vesaid that on the podcast and I
am not cynical.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Okay, very good for you, and yes, you are here.
We and I am not cynical.
Okay, very good for you, andyes, you are.
He says love you guys and Istill listen faithfully to every
episode.
Hopefully, as the dust settlesfrom projects I'm working on,
I'll be able to stay in touchmore frequently and even come on
the podcast.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Yes, please.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Well, I added that last bit.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Oh sorry, I got really excited.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Well, no, but still I want him to.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
No, but Leo may not want it.
But thank you, leo, it was goodto hear from you.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Thanks, Leo.
If you'd like to get in touchwith us,
familiarwilsonsatgmailcom.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
I sing that in my head every time.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Very good, very good.
All right, Amanda, that's allthere is.
There is no more.
What'd you think of all that?
Speaker 3 (35:25):
I'm well, I don't remember.
What did we talk about?
Speaker 1 (35:29):
and we talked about separation and co-parenting and
orlando and disney springs and,and just to give you all a peek
behind the curtain, we haverecorded this particular episode
over several hours.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
That's why I don't remember what we talked about.
It's now nighttime.
We started when it was morning.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yes, because that's just the nature of the lives of
the Wilsons.
But anyway, thank you all forjoining us.
I hope something that we saidwas helpful and now it's end
credits time, Amanda.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Thank you to all of the people Josh is just going to
talk about now.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
This episode was recorded live beneath a
suspiciously shady pop-up tent,wedged between a tarot reader
and a man selling ethical beefjerky.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
No.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
And it's brought to you At the farmer's market.
That's right, and it's broughtto you by At the Farmer's Market
.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
That's right, and it's brought to you by Antonio.
At the Kombucha Stand, JoshScar who loudly buys radishes.
Daniel Buckets offering seashanties and half-price flounder
.
Chicken Tom for selling spaceeggs.
Monique ask her about the timeshe made pickled eels.
(36:41):
Joey, Joey.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Jolly.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Jolly Leo for selling lavender oil Refined Gay Jeff,
who's now available in smallbatch, locally sourced.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Can I finish this Now ?
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
He's available in small batch, locally sourced
bottles.
Mark and Rachel I don't knowwhy.
It's funny what.
It is Mark and Rachel who haveeaten many empanadas, and Dan
and Gavin who just say I'm justbrowsing we love you all so
(37:18):
until next time you all, take iteasy and be safe go, be kind
bye.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Thank you.
Familiar Wilson's Media Relationships are the
story.
You are made of meat, my friend, all the way down.
The following podcast useswords like and and also.
If you're not into any of thatshit, then now's your chance.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Three, two, one run.
I'm super familiar with you.
Wilson run.
I'm super familiar with theWilsons.
Get it.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Welcome to Super Familiar with the Wilsons.
I'm Amanda.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
And I'm Josh and we are the podcast that's about
marriage 2.0 with kids and allof the side quests, and today
we're going to talk about one ofthose side quests.
We're also going to talk aboutthe Marriage 2.0 part a little
bit.
We are going to delve into thatweird relationship, dmz that
(00:52):
happens right after you separatefrom your spouse.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Especially if you have kids.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yeah, that's super tricky.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
So we're going to chat a little bit about how we
did that, and maybe y'all outthere can relate.
It'll either convince you toyou know, really work hard to
try to do it right, or it mightconvince you to, hey, we need to
go to therapy and then not getdivorced.
I don't know what it'llconvince you to do, yeah, but
then some people go to therapyand still need to get divorced.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
So let's not put it out there that just because you
go to therapy, it means youshould stay married.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yes, that's true.
We're not saying that either.
That's true.
Okay, all right.
Well, that's a little bit toopointed.
You're saying that what we needto go to therapy, what's
happening right now?
I've considered it lately,menopause is getting in the way
of our congeniality Sounds likea you problem.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
No, friend, because you are like you.
Don't even let me finish mysentences anymore.
I'll start to say something andyou've, in your head, thought
what I'm going to say, and soyou cut me off.
And one it angers me becauseyou've cut me off.
And two, you're typically wrongabout you, think I'm going to
be pissy about something becauseI'm menopause and I'm not like
I'm just trying to say somethingelse, which makes it even worse
.
So, yeah, actually Maybe weshould go to some counseling so
(02:01):
that you can have strategies fordealing with me during
menopause and I can havestrategies for you dealing with
whatever it is that's happeningto you.
Why are you just staring at me?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Welcome to Super Familiar with Dr Wilson.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I'm.
Josh and this is Amanda.
This is Josh doing the podcastby himself, moving on to 3.0.
Oh God, no please forget it.
Nope, no, this is the last oneif this one doesn't work out,
you're done no, no, no, no, I'mgonna invest in the monkery.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Is that a thing?
I'm gonna become part of themonkery?
I don't know um, but first, wewent to orlando yesterday,
didn't we?
We did so that was fun forthose of you who live in florida
, or maybe for those of you whodon't.
Orlando is a place in thecenter of our state that is
supposed to be the happiestplace on the planet.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, lies, lies have been told to you by the
marketing company.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
But I do have a little bit of a review, my
review of the place that wevisited, Disney Springs.
Amanda, can you tell the folkswhat Disney Springs is if they
don't know what it is?
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Sure, so Disney Springs was originally created
as Downtown Disney is what itwas called, and it's on the
outskirts of all of the themeparks and they created this
dining, shopping, nightlife clubexperience.
There used to be an under 18club there called Videopolis
that I went to in like the late80s, early 90s, like a teen club
(03:24):
.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Oh, I'm not familiar with this.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
like parents would drop us off and we would dance
in there.
It was kind of like the set ofmaybe apollo abdul video, like
the metal scaffolding whenthey're doing building, like
that kind of like.
Have you ever seen stomp theband?
Yeah yeah, or like the showstomp, like all the stuff that
they climb on.
We used to go and dance there.
One time when I was 14.
For my friend's 14th, herparents rented a limo for
(03:49):
14-year-olds.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
No.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
And we lived about 40 minutes from there, right, just
straight down the interstate.
Her parents rented a limo, didnot go with us, left us with the
limo driver.
He took us to Orlando, droppedus off, we did all of the
dancing.
He picked us back up when itclosed at like one o'clock in
the morning and drove us home.
What?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
sort of weird like imprivileged life did you lead
there in Lakeland Florida?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I mean, that was my friend's birthday.
I was just along for the ride.
But also I can't imagine usletting any of our children at
14 get in a vehicle with a lotof 14 year olds and a strange
man we don't know and lettinghim drive them out of town and
bringing them back home at twoin the morning absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Nope, no, would not happen all right.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
So that used to be downtown disney, now it is
disney springs.
It is a giant entertainmentcomplex.
There is a lego store, there'sa rainforest cafe, there's a
t-rex cafe, cirque du soleil hasa venue there.
Tons of food and they're alllike hey morimoto and hey guy
fieri and like hey, all of thechefs have restaurants there and
(04:55):
, uh, giant shopping things likethere's the world of disney,
which is massive, but thenthere's also like ron johns is,
it's a surf shop, if you're notfamiliar, and like Anthropologie
and Sephora, so regularshopping things, but then also
like a bakery that you have toget on a virtual queue in the
morning to get in line for, oryou're not getting in for the
(05:16):
entire day.
It is just, it's a bigproduction.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
So that is your overview.
Now let's hear my review ofDisney Springs.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
All right, go for it.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Disney Springs is the upscale swamp mall where
children's dreams go to buyartisan lollipops and their
parents pretend capitalism isn'toff the rails.
It's not a theme park.
It's a consumeristhallucination wrapped in a
cartoon mouse carcass and toppedwith a working volcano.
It's like a luxury outlet mall.
Had a baby with an airportconcourse and then raised it on
(05:54):
Instagram.
Ads and old childhood traumacoping mechanisms that is an
accurate description.
You'll walk three miles just tospend $40 on a cupcake that
tastes like an asbestos rainbow.
There'll be a Lego sea serpentjudging you from the lagoon like
a plastic god of poor spendingdecisions.
Above it, a tethered hot airballoon that charges you $25 to
(06:16):
go nowhere slowly.
Doesn't that sound like an aptanalogy for life?
Right now, you'll eatoverpriced arepas next to a
steampunk paddleboat, while acosplaying bartender dressed
like a leather-bound wine listtries to convince your children
that this is called magic.
And then, because you'redelirious, you'll buy a scented
(06:36):
candle labeled Haunted Mansionin August for $100, and you'll
call it a good deal.
It's capitalism on paradewearing mouse ears and crooning
it's a small world, after allover a Bluetooth speaker.
And you will cry when thevolcano at the Rainforest Cafe
starts spitting fire, because bythen, it's the only thing
around that's showing genuineemotion.
(06:57):
So yeah, we had a good time.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
And that damn volcano .
It only erupts like every 25minutes and so Winthrop wants to
see it erupt and so we have tosit there now.
Fortunately, you guys went onthe carousel because this is the
only like little ride he canget there because there's a
spinny thing in it.
So you sit in.
It spins around really fast.
You like took one for the team,but also you kind of like dug
(07:20):
in my side a little bit becausehe asked me if I was riding with
him and I said no, because Iwould throw up.
And you said I'll do it withyou, winthrop, I love you, and I
was like you know what, goahead, and I hope you throw up,
because it was about 102 degreesand that.
But then, right when you guysgot off of that, the volcano
spewed its gassy fire and thenwe were able to go into the
Christmas store and recover fromthe heat.
(07:42):
It it's the strangest place,but we did do something
yesterday that didn't cost usanything and was a nice break
from it, right.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
We did.
We got on the tugboat.
What is it?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
It's like a little ferry.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
There's a ferry that goes between this Disney Springs
Mall and all of the Disneyresorts, and so they have themed
resorts, they've got the FrenchQuarter Resort, they've got the
Key West Resort, they haveSaratoga Springs Resort, and you
can get on this boat and betaken to all these things for
free and, to be honest, that'sthe best time that I had there.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Okay, it was chill, it was about 20 minutes each way
.
Right, it doesn't go to all theresorts, it only goes to those
four.
But we went over and, you know,spent maybe 10 minutes in key
west and got on the boat andwent back, but it was about an
hour all told and it waswinthrop was very chill on the
boat.
It wasn't hot on the boat, itwas.
It was really nice.
So, pro tip, if you happen tobe at disney springs and the
(08:40):
weather is not bad, because theywill stop running if there's
weather.
Uh, look for I think they'recalled the Friendship Boats.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
And go, look for that exit of Disney Springs which is
near Rainforest Cafe area andgo out and get the boats.
And I recommend you go toFrench Quarter We've been before
so we didn't this time but youcan go over there and get some
overpriced beignets and hearsome piped in jazz music and
then come back.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, price beignets and hear some piped in jazz
music and then come back, yeah,and the reason why we ended up
going to disney springs in thefirst place is because we had to
drop muffy off at the airportin orlando and we decided that,
since we are in orlando anyway,let's go do this.
I knew what I was in for.
I've been to disney springsmany times.
It's super crowded, but I willsay that this boat trip made it
(09:26):
worth it yeah because it wasdifferent and it was calm and
all the things.
So yeah, that is our review andour overview of disney springs.
I don't know if we recommend itor not.
I think I would give it like Idon't know two and a half stars.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I think if you're there and it's in the evening,
it's fine.
It just was about 174 degrees.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yes, and speaking of the volcano, I too was spewing
hot fire after the meal I ate.
That's a different story.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Oh okay, excellent, Good, but did you notice?
I pointed out to you.
So we were eating like a reallyexpensive counter service
barbecue meal.
We were sitting outside, rightoutside of the restaurant and we
were eating like a reallyexpensive counter service
barbecue meal.
We were sitting outside, rightoutside of the restaurant, and
we were watching people go by.
Zero people look happy there.
Like no one looks happy there.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
You want to know why?
Because vacations, these days,aren't supposed to be happy.
You've got too much to do.
You got to get there.
You got to make sure to get inline and spend your money.
There's no room for happinessthere.
The happiness comes later, whenyou realize that you're home in
your own bed.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I know I spent all this money to just be happy for
my own bed.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah, there you go Excellent.
So this is a little bit of aserious topic.
I'm not sure we're going totreat it that way, but bit of a
serious topic.
I'm not sure we're going totreat it that way, but it is a
serious topic.
If you're listening to this andyou're in the middle of
separating from your spouse andyou have kids, take a breath.
(10:55):
It's going to be hard, but wedid it and we're here to talk
about it.
And also if you're listeningand you've also gone through
this and you've navigated thesewaters, I want to hear from you.
Familiarwilson's at gmailcom.
I will tell you that it'spossible that going through this
experience will change youdrastically.
(11:15):
For example, I probably cannotlisten to any Adele songs
anymore.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Just that was it.
That was that period in timefor you.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
But I survived.
So there you go.
Wait, just that was that wasthat period in time for you, but
I survived.
So there you go.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Wait, I didn't know this about you.
Was it because you were?
Because Adele's very much likepining and being sad.
Were you being sad that it wasover?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
No, but it was a sad experience and Adele just
happened to be all over theradio at that point.
So yeah, I also appreciate theGloria Gaynor song.
Appreciate the Gloria Gaynorsong, I Will Survive.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yes, I will survive.
I think my anthem during thattime was Someday by Rob Thomas.
You know this song.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yes, I do.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Because it just felt like it was such a long process
and I feel like mine took longerthan yours and I was just like
it is someday we're going to beokay, but it's taking us a while
.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
It's a tough transaction because really what
you're doing is you're dealingwith your own emotional mess
right, yeah.
But then also there is, likethis project that you're working
on together, right?
You got to be able tocommunicate with your ex, almost
(12:28):
despite the emotional stuff,because now you're doing shift
work in this new company ofGrumpy Little people llc.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Right, that is the most important thing out of this
whole thing, yeah, and I thinkthat it's it's.
I mean I'm not saying it waseasier or harder.
It was different for youbecause the boys had each other
and muffie was just by herself,and so that was that was
difficult, because she was goingback and forth.
So we did it different than youdid.
You guys kept the kids in thehouse for a while and shifted in
and out of the house.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
And we couldn't figure out how to make this work
, because I didn't really wantto pay mortgage on this house
that we owned and then also gorent a house, and so what we did
for a little while was I wouldlive in the house for a week
with the children, and then I'dgo stay at a friend's house and
then she would live at the housefor a week and the children
would stay, and then she wouldgo stay in her parents' house.
That just became, I don't know.
That just didn't work.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
It didn't work.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
We as the adults who needed to keep ourselves really
together were very unsettled bythat and I don't feel like it
set a good foundation for us tobe able to deal.
I think it came from a goodplace.
It just didn't functionallywork out.
So I ended up going and rentinga house and then she came and
she moved back into the oldhouse and that's how we did it.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
How long did you do that for?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Not very long.
We didn't do it for very long.
First of all, I wasinconveniencing our very good
friends who were being very kindto me but, I, felt bad about
doing it and, like I said, itwas just wearing us both down.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
I do think it comes from a good place, because it is
hard for kids to go back andforth.
It is what we did for Muffy,was we got her hamsters so they
could go back and forth with her, since she didn't have a
sibling.
That ended tragically with onehamster eating the other hamster
while she was at the otherhouse and I midnight or 10
(14:29):
o'clock or nine o'clock,whatever, and triage all of that
.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
So that it was difficult.
The one hamster, though, stayeduntil almost till you and I got
married.
Like that one hung out for awhile, but our process took a
little bit longer, just with youknow, legal fees and everything
to have it, because gettingdivorced is not inexpensive
either, and I don't think eitherone of us really had a
contentious divorce.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Oh no, not inexpensive either.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
And I don't think either one of us really had a
contentious divorce oh no, notat all, and so it was just we.
I think we wound up using anattorney as a mediator.
I think you guys didn't evenhave to use an attorney.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
No, no, no, no.
That's what.
That's what the online formsare for, yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
But that was not going to happen just due to
other things in that previousrelationship.
So it took a while and it's notan inexpensive process.
So the more that you can beamenable to each other, the
better off it will be for you.
And I was very, very careful tonot say anything about the
other parent to the child,although sometimes it's really
(15:27):
hard because you want to bedefensive of yourself but you
can't because it's not about youat that point, it's about the
child.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
One of the things that I intuited very quickly is
that my children are not myemotional support animals.
That's what pets and friendswho can buy you expensive things
are for right.
Who can take you out and sayokay we're going to go get wine
or beer or whatever.
But you can be sad.
I was sad in front of them.
I did not want them at all tothink that I didn't care, but I
never wanted them to feelresponsible for my feelings.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
My parents stayed together until I moved out, when
I was like right after collegeand was 25, and my parents got
divorced.
But I knew they were unhappyand I always felt responsible
for my mom's happiness.
She didn't say that I was, butI just felt that I was because I
knew she was unhappy.
So I didn't ever want to bethat and one of the reasons why
I decided that this was a thingthat needed to happen is that
(16:22):
Muffy used to say to me mommy,why don't you smile?
You don't smile as like athree-year-old and so that was
really like, okay, something Ineed attention to what it what
I'm putting out into the world.
Sure, so, and we did thecounseling route.
So I'm not saying that youshouldn't do it, you should do
it, and sometimes things areirreparable and sometimes
they're irreparable.
But it will definitely help toum, to focus on the children.
(16:45):
But do you remember the firstthing you said to me when you
guys got separated?
no, I don't so this, so this ishow I remember this.
So you and I knew each otherright, but we didn't hang out or
anything like that, we justknew each other and we kind of
occupied the same social circlesand so we were at an event and
I was there, had Muffy with mebecause it was a family event.
(17:07):
I think you were showing someartwork.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
And you came up to me .
I was sitting down and you cameup to me.
I said hey, baby.
No, you did not.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
And you just held your left hand out at me and you
didn't have your wedding ringon, but I had no idea what you
were doing.
You were just like showing meyour left hand.
I was like okay, and you werelike something's missing.
I was like okay, dude, we don'tknow each other like this and
I'm really confused and I washolding my hand out for you to
kiss it.
You were not like, yeah, likeWinthrop when he came out of his
(17:38):
surgery and made us all kisshis hand because he thought he
was a little prince coming outof anesthesia.
That's a whole different story,anyway.
And then you said you know weseparated.
And you said can you and I havecoffee sometime, because I've
been watching you and the otherperson and you seem to be doing
it well for Muffy.
So I don't know if this wasyour intro line or we really
(17:58):
were just expressing to theworld that we were doing it well
, even though I was going alittle insane.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
But that was our first conversation.
Let's be very clear that thatwas totally innocent and, yes, I
was definitely not ready tojump back into anything at all.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
No and yes, I was definitely not ready to jump
back into anything at all.
No and.
I think that we sporadicallyhad coffee for like a year or so
and I wasn't even.
I think you guys kind offast-tracked it and got divorced
a lot quicker.
And then the day that I went tothe courthouse and we signed
everything, I texted you and youcame and had coffee with me.
But we were still friends atthat point in time.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
We were just sort of supporting each other through
this, this really awful thing.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yep, yep.
And the other thing again.
I kind of already mentioned it,but the other thing I wanted to
reiterate is the fact that youneed to learn how to communicate
with your ex in a way that isconstructive.
You know, for me we had thatpretty early on, because it was
such an amicable thing where wewere both just like, okay, it's
(18:59):
time for this separation tohappen and we want to make sure
that our kids get the best.
But I know that that doesn'thappen all the time and so I'm
not trying to paint thiswonderful pictures with flowers
and fairy tales and butterflies,but it just so happened.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
It wasn't always smooth and easy, but we worked
really hard to try to keep theemotion out of what's best for
the kids yeah and yeah andthat's hard, no matter what, and
recognizing that there are somepeople who are in situations
where you know like they've beenbetrayed or hurt and that makes
it so much harder.
My suggestion there is get areally strong support system
(19:38):
around you and your children anddefinitely seek help from a
counselor to maybe mediate yourconversation so that you know
how to talk to your kids or youknow if one person's wanting it
and the other person isn't.
Nothing went wrong, it's justit's clear that this is not the
right person for you.
Then that can be a little bittricky too, but I think that if
you continue to focus on thepoint is to get the kids through
(20:02):
it the best they can, the bestyou can, then that helps, you
know, if you both agree on ithelps anchor you in something
Not saying you won't say to afriend I need to go get wine and
talk a lot of trash abouteverything, because you will,
but you know that's like youdon't talk bad about the boss at
work, but you can go talk badabout the boss after work with
your colleagues.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
That I never do that.
The other thing to keep in mindis that your kids need someone
to talk to about it.
That's not you or not your ex.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
And I think a lot of people miss that.
And you, I've talked to theboys.
It's been like 12, 13 years orwhatever, and they're both
adults now and I've talked tothem even recently and learned
things about their process andlearned things about what they
thought and how they werefeeling that I never knew yeah
you know so, but luckily both ofthem have talked to therapists,
you know, throughout theirlives so my last little thing
(20:55):
here is don't rush to introducenew people to your children yeah
, no, yeah and when I say newpeople, I mean like new people
new significant others or newpossible significant others, and
that's the problem.
Well, there's several problems,but the problem is is if you
(21:15):
bring someone in and you're like, oh, this is the thing and you
do not want your kids to getattached to that person, only
for them to leave, Yep.
Now with you, though, like Iintroduced you, but it was
definitely just this is a friendof mine, type of thing again
because we existed in the samesocial circle.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
We would have events where the boys would be there
with you and Muffy would bethere with me and we would just
be like hey and chatting.
So we were just friends.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
But you and I were just friends for a long time and
you know, and you continue toknow, my ex-wife and you all
were were friendly acquaintances.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Yeah, no, I mean I had worked with her while you
guys were still married and sheand I get along very well and
you know we get along very wellwith her husband.
She's been married about thesame time that we have and and
you respect him as a, as astepfather for the boys, and so
we really do have the best ofwhat could be a really difficult
situation, um, and we're verygrateful for that, but I think
(22:12):
everybody worked hard at that.
Like I understood, my space wasnever to insert myself in the
boys' life and or disciplinethem, but to support them.
And so from the very beginningwhen I think when you and I got
married I said to the boys Iknow it's not my job to
discipline you because they wereolder, they were like in middle
school and going into highschool.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I know it's not my job to discipline you and I
won't, but it is my job to keepyou safe.
It didn't hurt that you were ateacher.
You're used to dealing withother people's children.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
And I'd say if a teacher would say it to you, I'm
going to say it to you, and Ithink they respected that and we
were fine.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
One more thing I would say is pretty important as
we moved into different housesand we upend our children's
lives.
That what I did is I workedreally hard to start new rituals
.
Like, okay, we don't do thisthing that we used to do all
together as a family, but me andthe boys, now we're gonna go to
the bagel place everyone canget a bagel, which is one of the
things that we and that was ournew ritual and that instantly
(23:10):
gave them new grounding.
Like this is a thing now thatwe're gonna do, and it's new and
it's different, but it'sconsistent.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
And then when we started blending, even when we
were still just kind of friendsor maybe like denying things to
ourselves, I think I denied alot longer than you did.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah, you did.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
I would see people out and they would oh, it's
raining.
Sorry, that's not what theywould say.
I just happen to look out thiswindow and it's raining.
That does not bode well for thepool situation that winthrop's
hoping for.
Um, but I would see people outand they would see us together
and you would say they would say, oh, are you on a date?
I'm like, oh no, I would getlike, really, I was like, no,
I'm not on a date.
Um, I didn't mean ooh towardsyou, just the idea of dating.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
No, I didn't.
I love you and you're veryhandsome, but once we got
together, I think that you werethinking marriage before I was,
weren't you?
Speaker 3 (23:57):
no, yeah, no, you brought it up no, sir, you
brought it up and if you want totalk about it we will, but we
should discuss what happened,because it's a little bit of an
intimate situation, before wetalk about that.
So that can be the next one ohno, I don't what.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Is okay, we'll.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
We'll talk about this offline I don't know what
you're thinking about, but no,no, okay, listen, josh,
definitely brought it up beforeme.
There you go um, but anyway now,I'm all curious what I was
saying is that we and everybodyelse is curious too write in and
say what you think happenedthis?
This will be fun.
It's like fanfic for thepodcast.
(24:34):
Well, my point is that when westarted blending the kids
together, like we would dothings out not at anybody's
house, like we go play at thepark or we go to dinner, but
then we started building ritualswith them, because we wound up
having the exact same schedulewith the kids.
So on the nights off, we hadbuilt-in date nights.
(24:54):
And then, when we had the kids,so every Tuesday night, muffy
and I would come to your house,you'd have the boys, you'd cook
dinner and we would watchMasterChef and the Voice, and
then Muffy and I would go home.
And they still talk about thatnow.
They're like remember when weused to do this?
So we started creating a ritualearly on when we blended them,
(25:17):
yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
So final thing, and I'll say this with all the love
in my heart you're gonna screwit up, you're gonna mess it up
and that's okay.
Just go back, say that you'resorry and you try again, and
then one day maybe they'll growup as fully formed and healed
human beings and start a podcastabout how weird their parents
were.
That's right, and that's okay.
And now it's time for TotallyTrue Domestic Did, did, you
(25:51):
knows, with the Wilsons.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Okay, things I'm not aware of.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
No, I want to do more educating on this podcast.
We talked about a little bit ofa serious subject there and I
want to share our wisdom thatwe've gleaned as human beings on
this planet about domesticthings, about the house and
laundry and all those things.
Ready Music please, musicplease.
Tip number one the best way tofind your children is to yell.
(26:22):
I just cleaned this three timesinto an empty room.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
So true, god they're like little wrecking balls he
finds the clean clothes when Ifold it.
I can.
He can be downstairs and I'llbe up here.
I've folded laundry on the bedand he will come running up the
stairs and dive.
No one's told him him, no one'slet him know.
It's like a heat seekingmissile.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Next tip Did you know that your dishwasher doesn't
actually dry dishes, because itruns on the fact that you have
trust issues?
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Sometimes See, no, my dishwasher's playing with me
because sometimes it will drythem and sometimes it won't, and
so I keep coming back for more.
It's got me on the hook.
It's like it's being nice to meone time and then like
gaslighting me the next.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
That's right, trust issues, and that's where it gets
its power from.
Did you know that the onlyknown predator of throw pillows
is a dog?
Speaker 3 (27:14):
A hundred percent.
He's got all these damn toysand he just keeps going for the
throw pillows wait, his littlebed, that's right, there has got
fuzz coming out of it I know?
Speaker 1 (27:25):
did you know that every time you open up your
underwear drawer, it passive,aggressively judges you?
Speaker 3 (27:31):
why, just because of old underwear my no, sir, that's
you I, I.
I keep track of mine and throwaway the stuff that needs to go
away next one.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Did you know that there's no correct way to load
the dishwasher, only anincorrect way?
Speaker 3 (27:47):
and you found it.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I don't think I've discovered yet what your correct
way to load the dishwasher is.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Tetris.
I am going to get as much as Ipossibly can in there.
You'll put a bowl and it'll layover three like slots that you
could be putting stuff on.
I appreciate you loading thedishwasher Sometimes.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Oh, thank you for that.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Sometimes, because I'm just so appreciative of you,
I don't even look in thedishwasher.
I just I know you've loaded.
I open it up, I put soap in it,I close it, I don't look.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Well, that's perfect, that's perfect, that.
So you have a coping skill.
Yeah, that's right.
Did you know that the junkdrawer is the spleen of
household spaces?
Speaker 2 (28:22):
What does that even mean?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
All of the detritus and junk is just filtered into
that.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I keep trying to organize it and it keeps getting
unorganized.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, and then, lastly, did you know that no one
has ever actually finishedfolding a fitted sheet Like
grief?
It's a process, not a task.
No listen, finish folding afitted sheet Like grief.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
It's a process, not a task.
No, listen, I've watched thevideos where they show you how
to fold it.
They lie, they edit it, theyuse CGI.
It's not possible.
You ball that thing up and youthrow it in the linen closet.
That's how you fold that.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
So those are our domestic.
Did you knows?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
hey, josh.
Has anyone reached out to us togive us all the wisdom and or
tell you how wrong you are?
Speaker 1 (29:15):
isn't that what you're here to do?
Speaker 3 (29:17):
yes, so.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
So we do occasionally get emails.
People email us atfamiliarwilsons at gmailcom with
advice, with complaints tomanagement, and so let's see, we
have an email from friend Leo.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Hey Leo.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Leo says this.
Hey, Wilson, it's been a whilebut, as I'm sure you can attest
to, sometimes life seems to movea million miles a minute.
Yes, more and more as we age.
Just a few things to catch upon.
Oh boy, let's see how many.
One, two, three, four, oh, lotsof things that Leo.
I guess he listened to all ofour episodes.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
So he's cataloging?
Yes, he is.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
He says he's shocked by the things that I said about
the farmer's market.
So I don't know if you remember, but I was bemoaning the fact
that they can sell all sorts offruit and veg at the farmer's
market without properlypesticiding them so you can have
maggots and bugs and germs andall the things on this fruit and
vegetable assortment that youcan buy.
And Leo is not agreeing with myassessment.
(30:18):
He says specifically when itcomes to chemicals on vegetables
.
That's one of the reasons whywe frequent the many farmers
markets here Little to no harshchemicals on the vegetables.
Listen, if God didn't meanthere to be chemicals on
vegetables, he wouldn't haveinvented the chemicals.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
I'm with Leo on this one and this is the point.
This is why we wash the fruitand the vegetables.
Now I won't get the pasteurizedmilk.
That concerns me a little bit.
I'm a little concerned aboutthis.
People who sell shrimp out of acooler.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Don't you mean, you won't get the unpasteurized?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
milk.
That's what I meant.
I want pasteurized milk.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
God created pastures as well.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
So we need to have those in our milk, all right.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I referenced the need to have a hat with a curtain.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Yes, Do you remember?
Speaker 1 (30:59):
this yes yes, he says .
As for the hat curtain, yearsago, Prince released a video for
the song my Name is Prince inwhich he wears a hat with a gold
chain curtain.
And yes, I do remember that, IfI am not mistaken, the hat
curtain may have actuallyoriginated with the dandy
movement.
Don't quote me on that, though.
I won't, because I don't knowwhat that means.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
I actually do.
I looked up dandy recently andI'm trying to remember why.
I think it was because of themovie centers.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Oh, okay.
Well, there you go.
He continues on.
He says yes, bifocal contactlenses are a thing.
How the hell can you havebifocal contact lenses?
That makes no sense to me.
He says I've worn them for manyyears now.
I have the worst eyesight onthe planet, so macular
degeneration was a foregoneconclusion as I've aged.
Wow, that got heavy.
(31:47):
Don't ask me how they work.
He says Doc gave me a pamphletexplaining it, yet I'm still
clueless.
Something, something, somethingfrom the center of the contact
lens outward.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, no, none the wiser, contact lens outward.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah no, none the wiser, I still want flip up
contact lenses, like DwayneWayne.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Like Dwayne Wayne, I'm glad that they work for you,
leo yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
He says.
I agree with Amanda abouthaving kids stick with the
things they set out to try, evenif it sucks.
My wife and I think it helps inthe long run, and so far it has
.
Our kids are much older now andhave actually mentioned how
stick-to-it-ness.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Stick-to-it-iveness.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Well, he says stick-to-it-ness.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Has helped them in the long run.
Well, he's referencing the factthat we were thinking about
letting Winthrop not continuesoccer.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
But he continued soccer.
Now we might be done withsoccer, who knows?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
No, no, we're going back in the winter league.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
We also talked about what happens to the Halloween
candy.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
And whether we should hide it from them or whether we
should eat it or throw it away,as opposed to giving them the
big pot of candy he says this weused to be the parents who did
the give it to them a little ata time thing.
When it came to Halloween candyOne year my wife declared she
was sick of policing this andsuggested we let them have at it
.
Her reasoning was they wouldburn themselves out and moderate
(33:07):
.
Naturally.
Guess what she was right.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Oh really.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Not to mention our two boys saw it as a bit of a
competition which one could maketheir candy supply last longer.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Okay, a couple of problems that I have with that.
Number one, I'm not willing toclean up the puke.
And number two, I don't knowwhat sort of arrest that would
send them into possibly.
He says yes, I remember Ryan'ssteakhouse.
It rivaled Ponderosa'ssteakhouse.
Yes, there you go.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
See, they got it all the way up where Leo is from.
It wasn't just a Lakeland thing.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
And he says Lastly, I personally do not subscribe to
the AI doomism.
Like anything else, it will bea disruptor in some specialized
segments of the workforce, butAI is not going to take all the
jobs.
Make sure you follow the sourceof the doomism.
You may be surprised to knowthat the ones who are feeding
into it are actually the onesselling you the AI tools.
(34:03):
It's the old game of I'vecreated something so deadly that
I'm the only one who can saveyou from it.
Well, we shall see.
I hope you're right.
I hope you're right.
I hope that AI is used fornothing but to benefit human
beings and that it won't be usedby the ultra rich to take
advantage of all of the rest ofus and take all of our money.
(34:26):
Wink, wink.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
You are so cynical.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah, I am.
I'm in my 50s.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
I'm now in my 50s.
This is the first time I'vesaid that on the podcast and I
am not cynical.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Okay, very good for you, and yes, you are here.
We and I am not cynical.
Okay, very good for you, andyes, you are.
He says love you guys and Istill listen faithfully to every
episode.
Hopefully, as the dust settlesfrom projects I'm working on,
I'll be able to stay in touchmore frequently and even come on
the podcast.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Yes, please.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Well, I added that last bit.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Oh sorry, I got really excited.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Well, no, but still I want him to.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
No, but Leo may not want it.
But thank you, leo, it was goodto hear from you.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Thanks, Leo.
If you'd like to get in touchwith us,
familiarwilsonsatgmailcom.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
I sing that in my head every time.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Very good, very good.
All right, Amanda, that's allthere is.
There is no more.
What'd you think of all that?
Speaker 3 (35:25):
I'm well, I don't remember.
What did we talk about?
Speaker 1 (35:29):
and we talked about separation and co-parenting and
orlando and disney springs and,and just to give you all a peek
behind the curtain, we haverecorded this particular episode
over several hours.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
That's why I don't remember what we talked about.
It's now nighttime.
We started when it was morning.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yes, because that's just the nature of the lives of
the Wilsons.
But anyway, thank you all forjoining us.
I hope something that we saidwas helpful and now it's end
credits time, Amanda.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Thank you to all of the people Josh is just going to
talk about now.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
This episode was recorded live beneath a
suspiciously shady pop-up tent,wedged between a tarot reader
and a man selling ethical beefjerky.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
No.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
And it's brought to you At the farmer's market.
That's right, and it's broughtto you by At the Farmer's Market
.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
That's right, and it's brought to you by Antonio.
At the Kombucha Stand, JoshScar who loudly buys radishes.
Daniel Buckets offering seashanties and half-price flounder
.
Chicken Tom for selling spaceeggs.
Monique ask her about the timeshe made pickled eels.
(36:41):
Joey, Joey.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Jolly.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Jolly Leo for selling lavender oil Refined Gay Jeff,
who's now available in smallbatch, locally sourced.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Can I finish this Now ?
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
He's available in small batch, locally sourced
bottles.
Mark and Rachel I don't knowwhy.
It's funny what.
It is Mark and Rachel who haveeaten many empanadas, and Dan
and Gavin who just say I'm justbrowsing we love you all so
(37:18):
until next time you all, take iteasy and be safe go, be kind
bye.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Thank you.
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