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We celebrate the Florida Gators men's basketball national championship win while exploring how our son might perceive colors differently than most people, and Josh become a grass farmer...not that type of grass.

Talking Points

  • The Florida Gators won the NCAA men's basketball championship despite only leading for 17 seconds until the final minute
  • Children's unusual names at soccer games 
  • Josh's successful "grass farming" and the push mower
  • Our son's possible tetrachromancy 
  • Vagus nerve stimulation for anxiety regulation
  • Standing over sleeping partners and blood-written notes


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Familiar Wilson's Media Relationships are the
story.
You are made of meat, my friend, all the way down.
The following podcast useswords like and and also.
If you're not into any of thatshit, then now's your chance.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Three, two, one run.
I'm super familiar with theWilsons Get it.
Welcome to Super Familiar withthe Wilsons.
I'm Amanda.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
And I'm Josh.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
And we are coming to you from Gainesville, Florida,
where we are now the home of thelatest NCAA men's basketball
national champions, Woo-hoo.
So I got to tell you, Josh,that I mean, I'm a Gator
graduated from UF.
I wasn't really tracking men'sbasketball until about January.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
And why did you start tracking it?

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Because my nephew texted me and said, hey, florida
men's basketball is actually ona good run right.
I was like, oh, maybe we'llmake it, maybe we'll win the SEC
title, maybe we'll make it tothe big dance, as it were.
But then they were in the Sweet16.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
I got to tell you, the only reason I tracked
Florida basketball this year isbecause the head coach was
supposedly a naughty boy.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Feel free to look that up.
But also they signed thisfreshman or signed they got he
committed or whatever.
This freshman who's like 7'13or something like that Giantly
tall.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Giantly is definitely a word.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Let me tell you something, though, about this
game.
I fell asleep before the gamecame on.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
So I was saying they were in the Sweet 16, and then
they were in the Elite 8, andthen they were in the Final Four
and we watched the Final Fourgame.
They have consistently pulledit out from being behind in the
game.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Sounds so dirty, I know it did sound dirty.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Then they won the national championship, and the
thing that amazes me about thisgame is they were only ahead for
17 seconds.
The whole game until the lastminute.
Like I was, I was watching it,but I was watching it on my
phone because that felt lessscary than having the big tv on
well, let me tell you how notplugged in I was to nc2a
basketball this year.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
I thought until the end.
I thought that the semi-finalgame, the final, game.
Like Florida won that gameagainst whoever it was, and I'm
like, why are they making abigger deal out of this?
They just won the nationalchampionship and like you
weren't making a big deal out ofit either.
Until I then realized at theend of the broadcast, as they

(02:40):
were doing the interviews, I waslike, oh, that's what's wrong.
I didn't know any of theplayers, really.
And also I have this thing thatwe talked about last week or
the week before, where I tend tocurse teams and so, for
whatever reason, I'm like okay,I'm gonna go to sleep.

(03:01):
I have work tomorrow.
I just wanna make sure that I'mrested, because everyone around
me is going to either be grumpybecause the Gators lost or
grumpy because the Gators wonand they're going to be hung
over and they stayed up way toolate.
Damn game didn't even start tillnine.
So I said I'm not watching it.
I'm not watching it.
So I went to sleep and you wokeme up at like 11 or whatever

(03:22):
the hell time it was.
So I went to sleep and you wokeme up at like 11 or whatever
the hell time it was, and you'relike they won and I'm like
great.
So I missed the whole thing.
But I gotta tell you I regretnot staying up for the game, do
you?
Oh yeah, I do.
Well, of course, and it's noteven that, I'm just playing the
result, right?
Oh they won, and so I can'tbelieve that I missed that.
But it's really like I havetaken this really, really strong

(03:47):
direction in my life where Iwant to do everything that I can
do and have all the experiencesthat I can have, especially
around special occasions,especially during the weekends,
because those times are precious.
So that was just stupid for mejust to go to sleep and say, oh,
I want to get my rest.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Really.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
No, not a good enough reason.
In fact, this came up, was itlast?

Speaker 2 (04:10):
night, it was yesterday.
Yeah, last night.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, last night, no it was the day before yesterday,
it was Friday.
This came up because I wantedto go out and see our friend
Elio.
Oh yeah, he's a great musicianand broadcaster, has a radio
station, kind of more thanacquaintance, a little less than
a friend, although I'd love toget to know him better.
He's very dynamic and fun andyou were too tired and I was

(04:33):
really trying to give you thehard sell let's go, let's go,
let's go Because I want us to doas many of those things as
possible.
Now, I'm not trying to guiltyou now.
Good thing we didn't go,because what the hell it hailed
that night.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, like people's property was damaged, cars were
damaged.
Just all of a sudden, out ofnowhere, giant hailstorm did not
reach to our home, but was onup near your work and so isn't
that weird.
Yeah, we wound up having a.
We did get a lot of rain andwind here, we just didn't get
the hail, so it was good that wedidn't go out.
But yes, yes, no, I agree withyou.
We want to be able to make themost of the moments.

(05:07):
I think, now that you are on theother side of 50, and I am
about to be on the other side of50, you're feeling your
mortality, and so you're wantingto grab life by the shoulders
and just shake all of the lifeout of it.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
You're a writer, aren't you?

Speaker 2 (05:24):
I'm very good at words, Words are my job.
But here's the thing, friend.
I was watching it on my phone.
I turned the game on to watchthe last like 30 seconds and
they won.
And you kind of looked at meand said huh.
And I said they won.
And you said, oh, so we're'rewatching this now, but in a

(05:44):
really grumpy like voice and Isaid well, obviously not so I
turned the tv off and marched myhappy self downstairs and sat
on the couch and watched untillike 12 30 the dog came down
with me.
I watched all the celebration.
I watched all of it and areally good friend of mine her
husband was traveling so she waswatching by herself too, so we
were just texting each otherduring the celebration and
everything.
I watched all of it and areally good friend of mine, her
husband, was traveling so shewas watching by herself too, so

(06:06):
we were just texting each otherduring the celebration and
everything.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
I was asleep.
How many okay people out there?
Grumpy you were so grumpy andyou're snarky in your sleep
people out there who have asignificant other, or you have
occasion to encounter otherpeople when they're asleep.
Do you or does your significantother talk in their sleep and
you think that they're awake,but they're not really awake?
I wasn't awake.
I don't remember any of that.

(06:30):
That wasn't me.
That was whatever multiverseJosh who manifested in my body,
but that was not me.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Multiverse.
Josh is a jerk Because itwasn't just like I'm tired, Can
you please.
It was like oh, so we'rewatching this now, Like you were
super snarky about it.
Anyway, I'm very excited on adifferent level because Muffy
will be attending the Universityof Florida in the fall.
We're very excited for her.
Super hard to get into now.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
I couldn't get back in if I tried, but I went to I
can get in, just give me a SlimJim 20 minutes.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
I did my undergrad at UF when Danny Warfel was
playing and they were nationalfootball champions and I'm
excited for her to go into eventhough she's not super into the
sports ball, to go into a schoolwhere you've got this really
exciting thing around theathletics at the school.
And she also was born when thelast time they were national

(07:24):
champions.
They were national championsback to back with Billy Donovan
in 2005, 2006.
And she was born in 2006.
So she's you know she'sbringing luck to the Gators.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Does that mean that this year we're going to have
another kid?

Speaker 2 (07:35):
No why?

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Well, because the last time.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
No, no, no, no.
Actually, you know whatWinthrop was born during, when
the Cubs won the World Series.
So, apparently my children are.
Good luck for teams.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah, but teams are always winning.
What are you talking about?
No, the.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Cubs had not won the World Series in like 100 years.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, okay, and.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Florida has not won a basketball championship in a
while.
Well, if we are going to have akid, we're not, though, because
I'm going to be 50 next month.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
If we are going to have a kid, then we need to
start thinking of names now.
So we were at Winthrop's soccerdeal yesterday and his team,
the Mighty Eagles, actually tied, which to me this week is a win
, that is an achievement.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
yes.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
And you will notice.
If you pay attention to theWilson's, you notice that last
season I did this whole spiel, Idid a sports update in an
old-timey fashion, and this yearwe've abandoned that because
ain't no one wants to hear aboutmy kids' team losing twice in a
row.
So if they get an actual W,then maybe we'll bring that bit
back.
But while we're there weencountered several names that I

(08:40):
had never heard applied tochildren before.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, I think we should take this moment to
clarify that Winthrop and Muffyare not our children's real
names.
We do not use their real nameson this podcast, but you're
about to talk about names thatstand out, and I just want to
clarify that we didn't actuallyname our child Winthrop, because
that one also stands out too.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, but that's a cool, noble name.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
But some names that I heard and maybe you've heard
others right throughout thissoccer season that I wasn't
paying attention to, but we hadShepard, which is okay.
It's usually a surname, thoughMaverick.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, somebody loved them some.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Top Gun and Armani.
Listen, I am not making fun ofthis.
Just give me a second toprocess this new information.
Okay, these are now names inthe parlance that people use.
And what do you?
What do you think aboutmaverick as a, as a name for
your child?

Speaker 2 (09:33):
I feel like you might be typecasting this child to be
a certain really likemasculinity, like man's man,
kind of a maverick, like it justfeels like, I mean, it's tom
cruise, basically, or who hewishes that he was.
Were he a little taller?
Um, jesus no, he's.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
The men in my family are short, so he wears them
cuban heels he'll be all right,so I don't.
I mean it's not for me well,it's funny because, like I'm
saying, is like we need to stealourselves now for when we have
this new kid, whatever name wepick, it may seem unusual now
but, come you know, like 10, 15,20 years, like a new set of
names will be in common usageand so it really is wide open.

(10:16):
So I was trying to figure out.
I'll give you an example.
There are names that we use nowthat when they first came out,
people, people like that's dumb.
For example, madison, you knowthis name madison.
It's in in common usage soapparently in the 1980s, when
the the movie splash came outyeah daryl hannah's character
was a mermaid who, I guess, gotlegs and walked around.

(10:39):
It's been a while since I sawit.
She saw a sign that saidmadison avenue and so she.
She took the name madison, orsomeone applied the name madison
before that.
It had basically just beeneither a man's name or surname
yeah and so people were like, oh, that's what, what is that?
but then that name started togain popularity because
apparently of that movie oh,interesting which I think is

(10:59):
interesting.
Another one that I looked up,shirley that's my mom's name.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
That's your mom's name.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Used to be a man's name.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
And then I guess, shirley Temple, no, no, no, it
was a book by Charlotte Bronte.
Okay, that name checks a girlnamed Shirley.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Oh, interesting, and that was unusual at the time.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
I guess that was the author like having a little fun
and then that slowly turned andnow, it's not a man, a common
man's name at all.
No, the name Vivian also usedto be a man's name Two Vivians
at soccer.
So it's interesting how nameschange.
So I was thinking what namesmight we see in 20?
Years when we have our likethree or four more kids down the

(11:40):
line.
So I'm thinking maybe, like Idon't know, Charger.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
USB.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah, and especially good on the soccer field,
chargers always plugged in untilthe end of the game.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Going after the ball.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
They need juice and then they collapse.
How about Venti?

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Mm-mm, I just took a sip of my coffee speaking of
Venti, and I almost spit thatout.
Yeah sure, I just took a sip ofmy coffee speaking of Venti,
and that I almost spit that outyeah sure, venti Starbucks
drive-thru.
Grande is her little brotheryes, yes, lots of energy with
this child no, her brother wouldbe.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
What is the small one called?

Speaker 2 (12:16):
well, it's tall Grande and Venti okay, so tall?

Speaker 1 (12:20):
no, it's not no.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Grande, stop stepping on my joke, keep going.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Crypto.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Lord.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Let's see Disappears.
Mid-game, though I was going tosay he doesn't stick around
long.
Algorithm Short Al Okay, yeah,yeah.
By the way, crypto would ofcourse be short for cryptifer.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
That's going to say kryptonite.
But okay, Cryptifer, OkayCryptoverse the dumbest thing
I've ever heard.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
You say Thank you, how about Please Meet my Child
Netflix?

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Netflix and chill is how we got him.
Definitely no chill about thischild.
All I'm saying is that in thefuture there's going to be all
these crazy names and thegeneration before is going to be
this is silly and it's going tobe.
That's how things work.
Things are cyclical.
It's just going to be howthings work.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Things are cyclical, it's just going to be in common
usage.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
See, I don't think so .
I think that you don't think so.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
No, you don't think so.
Would you like to just keeprepeating what I said?
You don't think so, go ahead Ithink that people are looking
more to go back and reclaimnames from like centuries ago
instead of taking things rightnow and moving forward.
For example, I don't know howthis became my algorithm short

(13:31):
for out or al short foralgorithm.
Pinterest keeps sending me lotsof different baby name
suggestions, uh-huh.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
See, I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Pinterest needs to stay out of my uterus.
I got one yesterday.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
You were about to say Pinterest needs to stay out of
my vagina.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
No, I said and that would have been a better line.
But go ahead Uterus Hush, stopgiggling.
I got one yesterday that saidIrishish witch names, right so?
It's like giving me irish, so Iclicked on it because I was
curious about what these nameswere.
Well then, today I got oldviking names, so pinterest is
trying to give me from from yournames what's an old viking name

(14:16):
?
I don't know, I didn't click onthat one thor scars guard.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
I think it's interesting this idea of last
names becoming first names.
What's an old Viking name?
I don't know, I didn't click onthat one, thor Skarsgård.
I think it's interesting thisidea of last names becoming
first names, madison or Wilson.
Wilson or Dylan or these things.
I want to name my next kid,though, after an artist.
If we're going to name a kid,I'd like to take a famous artist
like Monet.
Monet would be a good firstname, wouldn't it.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Monet is a drag queen .

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Oh, is it Okay, manet , manet, manet would also be a
drag queen.
Yes, how about Van Gogh?
There you go, van Gogh.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Van.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Gogh Van Gogh Wilson.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yes okay.
Would we say Van Gogh or VanGogh?
I it wrong if we said Van Gogh,even though that would be
correct?
What about Bansky?

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Banksy.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Banksy, that's what I meant.
I'd say the same thing, like Isay Mariska Hardigay and it's
Hargitay, but I just switchedconsonants around.
Yeah, that's good, we're notrecording, are we?

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, we are recording, are we really?
I thought that you weren'trecording Did you?
Think, this whole time you andI were just chatting this whole
time.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah, no, not the whole time, but like for the
past minute and a half.
I thought we were just chatting.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Okay, speaking of Van Gogh, did you know that they
think that he had extra rods andcones in his eyes?
I do know that Because you lookat his paintings and you see
some of the colors he uses for Imean, he paints nature, right,
yeah, or painted, and the colorshe uses for the sky and starry
night or for, you know, as he'slooking at a flower people, like

(15:50):
you know there's there'ssomething that's very evocative
about that, almost as if, likehe's seeing see stuff.
The rest of us that we don't see, and I was looking that up and
the reason why I was looking itup and it's called texture.
What is it?
Tectra um, tetrachromancy ortexture?

Speaker 2 (16:09):
it's called texture chromancy, what's it called.
What is it called?

Speaker 1 (16:19):
tetrachromancy.
Okay, and again it's, it'sbeing able to see different
colors because you have extrareceptors both for light and
dark.
So gradations of of that andfor different colors I think
that winthrop might have that.
When we are driving to schoolevery morning and the the
oncoming cars have their lightson, and this happened a while

(16:42):
ago where he said oh, that carhas green lights, Next one comes
by, that car has blue lights.
And he kept going and I didnotice that all of the cars that
had incandescent lighting, hewould tend to think it was
orange or yellow or red, andthen all of the cars that had

(17:03):
LED lighting, he'd say oh,that's blue or that's purple,
like it'd be warm colors or coldcolors, and it occurred to me
that he might actually be seeingreally subtle shades of these
colors that are beingtransmitted by these light
sources.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
I absolutely think that he does, because for a
while I thought he wascolorblind, because he I like if
I would see something as grayand he'd say that's green.
But then I'd start looking atit and it would have like a
green undertone.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
And he did it.
When we were in the doctor'soffice recently it was St
Patrick's Day and I was wearinggreen and she was wearing green
and I said I like your green andhe said that's not green, and
he's.
And we both looked at eachother and he said that's great,
like what I had on right orsomething.
And I I said to her I'm likesometimes I think he's
colorblind.
She's like well, we don't havea test for that.
But then I started looking andI'm like no, there there are

(17:53):
undertones of what he's saying.
I think he sees differentlythan we do.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
I will tell you that as soon as he started doing that
, though I never once told himthat he was wrong.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, I don't.
I have a couple of times I muststop.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
And so it speaks to a larger thing about how I'm
really trying hard not to be theasshole parent who just
dismisses what their kid saysthereby crushing his little
spirit.
And so a lot of times he'll saysomething instead of me
automatically being, oh, that'snot so, me just sitting with it

(18:30):
and holding it and reallyconsidering it and damn it if a
lot of times he isn't rightabout whatever.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
And.
I do not want to squash that inhim times he isn't right about
whatever, and I do not want tosquash that in him.
He has been like that from jump, though, because I remember
this is the story that I like totell about him and how he can
reason things when he was maybetwo and he was in a car seat and
andrew-W, did I do that right?

(18:58):
A-j-c-w.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
A-J-C-W.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
A-J-C-W, who does a lot of the music for the podcast
.
Anyway, he was sitting in theback with him and Winthrop was
complaining that he couldn't seeout the window.
And Andrew said I can see, sothat means you can see.
And Winthrop looked at him andsaid put your head down here.
And Andrew leveled his headwith winthrop's head and said no

(19:21):
, you're right, you can't see.
And it too that joker knew howto like explain and reason why
we were wrong.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
And he continues to do so yes, yes, um, but it's
good, though.
It's good because I don't wantto build a kid who's like scared
to express himself or or, youknow, scared to point out the
truth.
last thing I want him to do isto have any sort of perception
that I'm like, oh, I'm young,therefore I don't have a right
to speak, because thattranslates later into oh, I'm

(19:49):
this and so therefore I don'thave a right to speak.
Don't want any of that.
None of us should want that forour kids.
Now if he comes to me and saysI see dead people, that's a
different story.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
No, he sees people too.
He saw it in the old house.
We've told this story where hesaid mommy, who's that man
behind you with the yellowumbrella or yellow raincoat or
something?
So he sees things we don't see.
Scary as shit, that is.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
He loves to talk.
Boy, that kid.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
This is the one thing he never stops, yeah no.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
So I was thinking about this, though, and I
actually want to hear fromparents out there
familiarwilsonsatgmailcom.
Do you have a kid who willnever stop talking or never stop
vocalizing?
Because I've been thinkingabout this, I've been looking
into this whole idea of vagusnerve stimulation Do you know
what this is.

(20:35):
Yeah, I know the vagus nerve isa nerve that runs right
throughout your body.
It's kind of mysterious to me.
When I first heard about it, Ithought that they were talking
about the anus nerve.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
No.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Which it is not the anus nerve.
I'm not even really sure whatit does, but one of the effects
of stimulating it is that itregulates anxiety.
It helps regulate negativeemotions and all of these
different positive things.
And the vagus nerve isstimulated by neck massage, but

(21:06):
also by vocalizations.
It's this whole idea of peoplesitting around going oh, oh Well
, that is a vagus nervestimulation because it's
vibrating your throat, which isreally close to it, and also
your jaw and your mouth, andthat helps calm you.
It helps you tell your bodyeverything's going to be okay.

(21:28):
So I wonder if the reason whyhe talks so much and vocalizes
and sings is because that's verycalming to him, because it's
stimulating that part of himthat regulates anxiety maybe I
mean the talking is definitely amillion family trait, which is
my maiden name.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
I mean I've told you that my brother once paid me
twenty dollars to not talk fromlake linda, charleston because
he was like I can't handle sixhours in the car with you
talking all the time, and westopped at at a rest area and I
went into the bathroom and justtalked to myself for about 10
minutes and then came back outand got quiet again.
So I mean that is definitely afamily trait, but I don't
vocalize like he does.

(22:09):
So he talks a lot, but then heis constantly you're right,
constantly making noises.
Even we used to call him likehis nummy numbs.
He'd do the nummy num dancewhen he was a baby.
Well, he still makes the samenoises when, like he used to,
when he was eating because it itwas yummy.
He still does that at almostnine.
So he is constantly like I.

(22:30):
I thought it was that he wasn'tcomfortable with silence, but I
don't think that's what it isit's terrible for me because I
have this thing with repetitivenoises it drives me absolutely
up the wall.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
I really, really, really really have to regulate
myself and my reaction to thatand sometimes I can't, sometimes
I just like, dude, you gottastop for a second.
But realizing that it might besomething that, where he's
regulating anxiety, that goesthrough my mind a lot, as I'm
fighting with my naturalreaction, in fact, so much so

(23:07):
that now when I'm stressed out,I will go, which I'm sure drives
you crazy.
I don't know if you've noticedit.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
No, it does, and I'm trying very, very hard to just
let it go because I know thatit's helping you.
But I get how it bugs you whenother people are doing it Okay,
very good.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Very good that we're stuck in this house of just
severely anxious people.
With all the noises, all ofthem doing their tics and all of
their regulating situations,and everyone's just getting more
and more amped up.
That's good, it's good, it'shealthy.
Mine is pointing out all thethings that need to be cleaned,
which drives you nuts, oh my God, just let me sit and enjoy our

(23:51):
backyard for a second beforetelling me all the things that
we need to do in it, but thathelps you that's my anxiety.
I think that how we should dealwith that is you tell me when,
when you need to do that, andlet me go get the earplugs no,
no, we are partners in this, youhave to listen.
No, but I'm listening to youroming but here's the thing about
earplugs I can still hearthrough them, but it's just a

(24:11):
nice separation.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
The buffer between you and your reality.
Yeah, that's right.
All right, move along.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
I really do want to hear from parents out there.
Do you have a kid who's justnonstop talking?
How do you deal with it?
How do you handle it?
And when you think about yourkid, are they like naturally an
anxious little being?
And could it be that they'rejust trying to use this to cope
with that?

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
So let us know.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
FamiliarWilson's at gmailcom.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Speaking of the aforementioned yard, I am a
grass farmer.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
You are.
You have farmed yourself somegrass, and I don't mean the
illicit grass.
Wait, no weed.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
No, but I planted grass from seed.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
I've never done that before.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
And I was like this is never gonna work, but I was
out there.
You know, if I had overalls ofstraw hat I would have worn them
.
Spreading my seed all over theyard and boom.
Four or five weeks later we'vegot the grass, we've got a
lovely little yard.
Yes, it's a nice little patchthere.
So it was getting a littleunruly.
Honestly, folks, if you couldsee how small this patch is, not

(25:21):
worth even wasting the gas tocrank up a lawnmower.
I was looking around forelectric lawnmowers.
You plug them in.
I was looking at attachmentsthat you attach to weed whackers
, because we have one of those.
If I have to take my whacker tothe patch, then I will do that
To spread your seed.
Yeah, after spreading my seedbut even that seemed a little

(25:42):
bit like I got to buy this newattachment.
I don't know, it seemed like abunch of faff, as our friends
would say, but I saw one ofthese push mowers.
Like the old tiny, think like1920 or 1930, whatever, where
it's just a cylinder with blades, with two wheels and a stick
and you push it around and itcuts the grass.
So we saw one of those in ourlocal DIY big box store and I

(26:05):
almost didn't buy it because I'mlike surely this shit does not
work, like there's a reason whywe don't use these things
anymore.
But I took a chance afterreading some reviews and I could
not be happier with this pushmower thing that we have Because
, again, very small area, badabing, bada boom, easiest thing
to do, done, not any noise thatwould drive me crazy.

(26:27):
Don't have to buy gas, don'teven have to plug the fucker in,
it is perfect.
Now I do feel a little bit likeFred Flintstone as I'm cutting
our grass, but I freaking loveit.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
I'm so happy for you, but, fred Flintstone, would be
like pushing around a dinosauror like an elephant or something
that's right, like Dino orwhatever.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
A goat that's just eating the grass as you hold the
hind legs now, if we could getour idiot dog to eat the grass I
could hold him by his hind legsand move him around, he would
throw up.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
That's why dogs eat grass, so they to make
themselves throw up.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
You have to empty the , the bag that's there you go.
Yeah, it's gross.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Now.
You won't let him outside nowand you're so upset with this
dog because when we used to lethim out in the backyard so we
have a very tiny backyard andwe've turned it sort of into a
garden right, like lots ofplants and flowering things, and
it used to be mulched, so nowwe have this patch of grass.
But when we'd let the dog to gooutside to use the bathroom and
then clean up after him in thebackyard, the dog wouldn't go.

(27:25):
He'd just stand there at thedoor and stare at Josh.
Now that we don't want him togo in the backyard because we
don't want him to pee on thingsand kill the plants, we take him
for walks several times a day.
Instead.
He just only wants to beoutside and it's just.
He's a contrarian, which, I'msorry, is most of the people in
this house.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
If I come upstairs and that damn dog is humming.
But I was thinking that we wentold school with buying this,
this push mower, and it was theright decision.
What other things could we goold school at?
And it would benefit us likewalking more but yeah, we've
been doing that though but likewalking to the store.
We haven't done that in a whileyou're right, but to me it makes

(28:06):
perfect sense and it waswonderful when we did it.
Number one, it's healthy for,and number two we can't carry as
much shit back with us from thestore.
So we don't spend as much money.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Also, though, we have , with the exception of this
week, hit summer already.
Our highs have been in the 90s,and so walking is miserable
when it's that hot yeah butthink of the weight we would
shed.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Think of the weight we would shed.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah, okay, do what wrestlers do when they're trying
to cut weight Dress in agarbage bag and tape it at the
arms and at the legs.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
No, I'm not doing that.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
And then we walk outside for a few minutes.
We come back, we empty thething and there's 10 pounds
right there, it's just all waterweight though.
Yeah, that's right, I want tolose actual fat off my body.
Yeah, but you start holding onto that water weight also isn't
great for you.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
I'm not wrapping myself in an aluminum foil and
walking to the grocery store.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Okay, you know what I want to start doing.
This is a thing that I want totry right, and I think that this
will especially be helpful inthis post-apocalyptic time that
we are approaching thisdystopian future that we find
ourself in.
Bartering, okay, bartering, andI think the perfect place for

(29:11):
us to start is when we go to thefarmer's market on Saturday
mornings.
We try to barter because that'slike the perfect setup.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Well, what do we have to give these people?

Speaker 1 (29:19):
I don't know, but I think we should do an experiment
.
I think that next week we takea bag and we start throwing some
shit in the bag right To taketo the farmer's market to see if
we can pawn off our crap forstuff that we want.
Every time we go to thefarmer's market we get a cup of
coffee, like that's our thing.
That's really why we go.
We go there because it's fun towalk around and just see the

(29:40):
things and smell the deliciousfood.
But also we have a reason to bethere.
We get our Saturday coffee.
But what if we approach thelady who serves the coffee next
Saturday and say I would liketwo cups of coffee.
Here is a half-used Yankeecandle and three basil leaves,
and see how that goes?

Speaker 2 (30:00):
I do not Somehow.
I don't think that this isgoing to be successful.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Do you know how many of these damn hydro flask type
of thermoses?

Speaker 2 (30:08):
we have around the house.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
So many of them.
Okay, we clean them up, closethem up, make sure all the
pieces are there, take them tothe farmer's market and see what
we can get for them all right,hydro flask I saw the other day
and I don't think that I spentthis on the ones that we have.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
They're now almost 50 .
Why are they imported?

Speaker 1 (30:25):
they've been tariffs, tariffs, so bartering.
That's the next thing I want totry.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
It's time for our fesshole I didn't, I didn't know
, I didn't know what I was gonnasay.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Go ahead, explain fesshole to people please
fesshole is a threads accountthat I follow where people send
in anonymous confessions allright and I some.
Some of them are tragic, someof them are sad, some of them
are funny.
And then there's this, which isjust weird A date confided in
me that when she was a child,she was possessed by a demon.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Oh, the power of Christ compels you.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
And had to be exercised by a priest.
First of all, have you ever metany people who are demon
possessed?

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Oh God, I grew up in a Pentecostal church.
Of course I did.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Did you?

Speaker 2 (31:33):
ever go to an exorcism?
No, I never went to an exorcism, but there was definitely.
We had our local lore about whoin the church had been
possessed and had to have demonscast out of them.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yeah, but that's like a joke, right?
No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
There was all lore about she.
They had to do the the.
She was in the basement of thechurch and she was turning green
and they were casting the devilout of her like it's, it's yeah
and then they brought thesnakes out to handle.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah, I grew up in a church that was very like
theologically based and veryintellectual mine was crazy.
They did not believe in any ofthat stuff.
Um, anyway, had to be exercisedby a priest.
I didn't believe her but wentwith it because she's hot hot
devil the that makes sense endedup spending a night at her
place.
She stood silently by the bedstaring at me for three hours

(32:18):
and then I ghosted her.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Oh my god, that's terrifying, but don't you have
an experience like that?

Speaker 1 (32:25):
oh yes, except for the demon possession part.
It's actually kind of a sadsituation because this girl that
I dated was like she had adifficult past right.
I wasn't great shakes back then, I wasn't this great guy, but I
was at least better thananything that she had ever
experienced before.
So, like I remember, one time Ihad made her a dinner, I said,

(32:46):
hey, why don't you come over fordinner?
And it was like the frozenravioli right, you're a good
chef.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
That.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
I threw in boiling water and then I threw some
tomato sauce on it and whatever,and maybe I put a couple of
leaves on there.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
From just the yard or like some herbs.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
I think that perhaps they were herbs.
But she came over and she waslike you know.
She started to cry.
I can't believe you made methis nice dinner.
Oh, that makes me sad for her.
Yeah, no, this is what I'msaying, but she moved into the
apartment next to me right.
Okay, which I knew that person?
who lived there, so she wasalways around.
I gave her a key so that shecould use the washer dryer,

(33:29):
because they didn't have one intheir apartment.
I wake up in the middle of thenight and she's standing next to
my bed just looking at me.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
That's terrifying.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Now, I talked to you earlier about how I'm not aware
of you know things that happenwhen I'm in the middle of the
night when.
I'm asleep.
I was awake enough to tell hercan you please leave, lock the
door behind you and don't dothis again.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Why was?
Did she tell you why she wasstaring at?

Speaker 1 (33:50):
you, I just missed you.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
But why didn't she go get in bed and cuddle you?
I don't know, I don't like that.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
I didn't check to see if there was a dead rabbit
clutched in her hand.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
How much longer did you date her?

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Not very much.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
And she lived next door.
That's awkward.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
They moved shortly thereafter.
But but the thing is is I didnot break up with her the next
day, which I should have.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, no, that's terrifying.
Because I was a theater major,I dated actors which you
couldn't find no more dramaticpeople.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
So narcissists then?

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Yes, and I dated this one guy and he broke up with me
.
This is how sad this is.
He broke up with me, but whathe told me was I want to date
other people, but I want you towait for me.
So when I am done dating otherpeople, you are still here.
And I do not want you to dateanyone else especially, and then

(34:39):
named this guy who was kind ofhis nemesis, which then I
immediately went and starteddating him and dated him for a
year and a half, because that'show contrary I am.
Like, if you tell me not to dosomething, I will go do it.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Let me tell you something first of all.
Unless you are an MCU hero, youdo not have a nemesis.
Nemesis aren't a thing thatexists in the real world.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Actors think they do and anyway broke up with me.
But then when I started datingthis other guy got really
whatever.
And I came out to my car oneday and there was a note on my
car that said I love you, baby,and it had been written in his
blood.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
He had sliced his arm and wrote I love you in blood
to me and then, after youfinally broke up with Billy Bob
Thornton, then what happened?

Speaker 2 (35:22):
So yeah, I got some stories too.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
No possessions, though you didn't date anyone
who was possessed.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
No but I did date somebody who got struck by
lightning twice, so maybe theywere possessed and that was God
trying to take them out.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
And maybe he was like please, god, put me out of my
misery.
God kept missing.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
No one likes to be told what to do.
Alright, now is the time in theprogram where we tell you what
to do.
Josh, don't tell me what to do,I don't want to hear it, but
tell the people what to do.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
People get off your ass.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Okay, get off your collective asses.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yes, Get up, get out of the house.
Don't let life pass you by.
Listen, we live in difficulttimes right now and I understand
everyone's just trying to doyour best, right, and so you
need to rest, you need time torecharge.
But I would put to you thatsometimes the best way to
recharge and get rest is to dosomething that gives you energy

(36:15):
Be around people.
Go see music, go to an artfestival, just go walk around
outside.
Don't just assume that becauseyou're laying in bed or on the
couch and you've got your eyesclosed, that you are getting
rest.
How many times have you, whenyou've been going through a
really difficult time, likeburied your head in the sand,
gone to sleep?
Wake up in a few hours, wake upthe next day and you feel just

(36:37):
as tired.
It's not just sleep that givesyou rest and restoration.
It is drawing energy from thepeople, the things, the world
around you.
At least, that's what I'mfinding.
That it is for me, just as Isaid earlier, me getting that
extra sleep, not watching thissilly little game.
I regret that because I thinkthat I really would have enjoyed

(36:59):
it, but even if they had lost,I still would have had the
experience of staying up andwatching this exciting thing.
Right, we should have gone outin a hailstorm Friday night.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
I'm not going in a hailstorm.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Shirts off running around in the rain, shirts off
running around in the rain justdancing to the Cuban music that
Elio would have had.
We should go out and do thosethings.
I want today, at some point, togo to Black Adder and shoot
some darts.
Okay, Okay, I don't want tojust lay around, veg out, and so
I encourage you, my people outthere, get off of your asses,

(37:35):
get outside, be around otherpeople, enjoy life, and you will
find that that is much morerestoring than just laying
around doom scrolling orwatching, you know, white Lotus
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
All right, well, I'm going to start by going to an
art festival, so I got to get ashower.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Okay, very good.
All right, Amanda, that's allthere is.
There is no more.
I had so many other things onmy list of things to talk about,
but we just don't know wherethe time goes.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Well, apparently I didn't realize you were
recording and just startedtalking nonsense for like half
of this episode.
So clearly that's on me.
But save those notes and we cando it next week.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Absolutely correct, we will do that.
The spin doctors just came outwith a new album, so go check
that out.
Face full of cake.
It's called, and if you'd liketo listen to any of our
conversations with the leadsinger of the spin doctors, I
think that there have been fivedifferent episodes now then
search those out, the last onebeing last week.
We're waiting to hear fromRefined Gay Jeff, who lives in

(38:37):
Houston, which was the team thatthe Gators beat to become
national champions in basketball.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Jeff, it's okay.
Are you still our friend, jeff,because we have not heard from
you since before the game.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Yeah, so let us know how things are, how you're
recovering.
I didn't even know that youwere into the sports ball, so
that's fun as well.
All right, folks, until nextweek, y'all take care of
yourselves, take care of eachother and get out there and do
something.
But first send us an email.
Let us know how you're doing.
Familiarwilsons at gmailcom.
If you want to be our firstmillion dollar sponsor listen,

(39:12):
we love doing this Give us yourmoney.
Familiarwilsons at gmailcom.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
All right, go, be kind Bye.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Bye, thank you.
This is a poem called.
It's Not Easy being the JollyGreen Giant Chlorophyll
catastrophe.
Green is my bane.

(40:30):
Verdant vita loca, driving meinsane.
Emerald existence a botanicalbind greens got me totally,
completely resigned.
Lime, sage, forest moss everyshade shows me who's the boss.
Photosynthetic blues if you candig, trapped in a pigmentation,
so damn.
Big ho ho, horrible trauma.
Cucumber curse my life's agreen mile.

(40:52):
Can it get worse?
Kermit was right when he saidit was style.
Being green's not a paththat'll make you smile.
Verdant, viridian olive, all onshow, can't escape this color.
It's even green down below.
A chromatic nightmare, apigmented hell.
At least I've been told that Iwear it quite well.
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