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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Familiar Wilson's
Media Relationships are the
story.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
You are made of meat,
my friend, all the way down.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
The following podcast
uses words like and and also.
If you're not into any of thatshit, then now's your chance
Three, two, one run.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I'm super familiar
with you.
Wilson run.
I'm super familiar with theWilsons.
Get it.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Welcome to Super
Familiar with the Wilsons.
I'm Amanda.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
And I am Josh, and
usually we record on the morning
on Sundays, when the churchbells indeed are ringing.
But we are recording right nowin the afternoon on Sundays,
because life just got in frontof us a little bit.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Yeah, and I didn't
expect the church bells to ring
out loud in our bedroom andthat's why I sounded like I was
asking a question about who I am, because I'm confused.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Podcasting should be
a statement, not a question, and
my statement to you, amanda, isrituals.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Satanic ones.
What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
what I am talking
about is the importance of
rituals the importance ofrituals with your partner, your
loved one and also your family.
And I know that a lot of familyrituals have kind of gone by
the wayside because of socialmedia, because people would
rather, instead of having dinnertogether in the dinner table,
they'd rather sit separately andscroll on social media or all
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sorts of things that they do.
But the reality is that ritualis really important.
If you take one thing from thisepisode, it's that that rituals
with your families and yourloved ones is really important.
In fact, research says thatrituals create emotional safety
and predictability.
Regular shared activities, evensmall ones like weekly
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check-ins or morning coffee,build connection and reduce
stress.
Couples with shared ritualsreport higher relationship
satisfaction.
Rituals serve as micro anchorsduring chaotic times.
Family rituals are linked tolower rates of adolescent
anxiety and higher resilience.
Jesus, it sounds like I reallydid my homework here.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
I know I'm glad you
brought the research.
That's good.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
So rituals?
Did you grow up with rituals inyour family?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Yes, but they were
all really based around church,
right, because that was just thething, that it was every Sunday
morning, every Sunday night,every Wednesday night, but the
things I mean.
So we went right, it washabitual was a thing, but every
Sunday after church it waseither drive through KFC and get
a bucket of chicken, it's socountry.
You never got a bucket ofchicken after church.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
No, I did not.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Or we went to
Morrison's Cafeteria.
Do you have Morrison's whereyou put the tray down and you go
through and you get like themayonnaise salad or the jello
salad.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
There was a
Morrison's Cafeteria in Miami.
I don't think I ever went there, and also gross.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Yeah, yeah, a
mayonnaise salad and I liked it,
but it was just lettuce chopped.
Lettuce chopped tomatoes mixedwith mayonnaise.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Mayonnaise was like
the predominant ingredient.
Yes, that's really fuckingdisgusting.
I liked it that mayonnaise waslike the predominant flavor in
that whole thing.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
It's like having a
bread sandwich.
Bread salad is a thing.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Bread salad is not a
thing it is.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
It's like an Italian
salad.
It is.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I reject the idea of
bread salad with my whole chest.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Anyway, if it wasn't
Morrison's, if it wasn't KFC, it
was Ryan's Steakhouse.
Did you have a Ryan's?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
No, feels like that's
just a guy.
Just a guy who rented out aproperty.
We had Steve's Pizza in Miami.
I don't know Steve, I don'tknow Steve, I don't know Steve,
from anybody Steve's Pizza wasfreaking good, but the whole
time I was like this is just aguy named Steve who decided to
make some pizza.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
No, ryan's Steakhouse
it was a chain because there
was one here in Gainesville, butI mean it closed super early in
the 90s.
Ryan's Steakhouse it wascounter service.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Right.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
So you'd pay for your
steak at the counter, but then
they would bring it out to youand was it like shoe leather?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Was it just really
disgusting?
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Well, I never really
got the steak.
My mom was really big into thisand I got it too.
It was the Hawaiian chicken.
It was basically just a grilledchicken breast with a piece of
pineapple on top of it.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
So stupid.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
But I liked it.
I would get a steak every oncein a while, but I would always
get it well done and then I'dwant like A1 with it and my dad
was like, listen, a good steakshould not need steak sauce.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Well, already you're
getting it well done, so you are
ordering shoe leather.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Yes, what's the point
of all that?
Well, because my mom had meterrified of bloody foods.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
But that's not steak.
At that point it's a meatflavored coaster.
It's a charred memory ofsomething what once mood.
It's like buying concerttickets and wearing
noise-canceling headphones.
It's awful.
Yeah, go ahead, roll your eyes.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Anyway, and they had
the yeast rolls with the
cinnamon butter.
Those were good.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
That sounds good.
We should do a show at somepoint just rating the best
pre-meal bread that has everexisted through restaurants.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Oh, I know mine Hands
down, know mine right now.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Oh, you would say
Macaroni Grille probably.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Absolutely, because
it's almost like a focaccia
really airy, super crusty andcrispy, with the sea salt and
the rosemary on top.
So good.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
What was the one
place?
It was a brewery.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Hops, hops.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Hops had such amazing
because they had these really
light, very flaky biscuits andthey're croissants, were they?
Okay, but they didn't look likecroissants at all.
Maybe it's croissant dough yeahbut, and they had this
delicious, basically pure canesugar that they like a glaze, oh
my god so freaking good yep,yeah it was really good.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
So rituals sunday
like meals after church.
My mom was like I'm not cookingafter church.
She would only cook afterchurch on Easter and Christmas.
Right, Because nothing would beopen on Christmas Eve.
And the other ritual is that wewould do Friday night pizza and
renting a movie.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Now we had Friday
night pizza at my place we would
get like Steve's Pizza orsomething but the ritual really
wasn't that for me.
The ritual for me is that thenext day we would have two or
three pieces left over, my dadwould wrap it in foil and he
would heat it up in the oven andthat pizza tasted so much
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better than the pizza the nightbefore.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Well, steve was not
doing it right the night before.
No, he did it right because itwas better.
And so to me the ritual wasn'tthe Friday night before.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Well, steve was not
doing it right the night before,
no, he did it right because itwas better, and so to me the
ritual wasn't the Friday nightpizza, it was a Saturday lunch
pizza.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Oh, interesting.
So we would get Pizza Hut panpizza, which I've told you I
tried to recreate and it justlike that crust was so good.
It was so good, but that livessquarely in the late 80s, like
that's not a thing that existsright now for pizza hut, or we,
every once in a while we dolittle caesars when they would
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have the pizza pizza in one box,so you'd have the two pizzas in
one box.
Do you remember this?
Okay, this is an audio ummedium.
You're just nodding your headbecause I'm drinking my cocktail
.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Please continue okay,
so.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
So Josh remembers
that.
But mostly we would get JayBurns pizza.
I don't know who Jay Burn is.
It was the letter J and theword Burns Jay Burns pizza.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Maybe his name was
Jay and he's just burning the
fucking pizza.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
No, but it was the
first time I had experienced
like super thin crust and hewould cut it into squares, right
.
It was like a circle pizza butcut into squares.
It was magic.
I don't know what it was.
The sauce was great and theyalso had the tabletop, like Mrs
Pac-Man and.
Galactica or whatever, whileyou were waiting.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
See for me.
The first time I experiencedtabletop video games was at
Godfather's Pizza in Miami.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
I never went to a
Godfather's, ever ever.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Oh yeah, no, that's
what I associate.
I don't even remember whattheir pizza tastes like, but
they had like the Pac-Mantabletop games and stuff.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
And then we would go
down the street to the video.
I don't remember what it wascalled.
It was a video rental place ina single wide trailer.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yes, you've talked
about that before on the show
right.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
So I'm from polk
county.
This is a thing.
If you're not um a floridian,it's square in the middle of the
state and it's got some somecountry in it and you would just
get whatever.
Do you remember how, when youwould rent at blockbuster,
there'd be like the copy withthe picture on the front and
then the copies behind it?
Yeah and then if there were nothings there, then you were just
out of luck, like right, rightRight.
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And that was it.
And we'd go and we'd rep movieson a Friday night, but we did
not go behind the beaded curtain.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
How did you have a
beaded curtain in a double wide?
Speaker 4 (08:31):
No, it was a single
wide friend.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Okay, you could not
have it unless it was in the
little bathroom stall.
I don't know the bathroom stallis where he had the seven
naughty it was there and weweren't allowed to even look
near it.
I didn't have a lot of ritualsas I was growing up, but I look
back nostalgically on the thingsthat did mark my days or my
weeks, and it's important thatwe have those things now, and, I
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think, particularly now,because we are entering in that
phase where everyone is kind ofworking like hell.
Everyone's just working so hardand the future is uncertain.
Is AI going to take our jobs,is it not?
We need to make sure to retainour connection and our humanity
through all of this, and one ofthe ways that we do that is
build these rituals into ourweeks that have to do with
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connecting with other people.
Now, I'm not talking aboutwaking up and then you do 10
pushups and then you go aboutyour day.
That's not the kind of ritual Imean.
I mean something that you do 10pushups and then you go about
your day.
That's not the kind of ritual Imean.
I mean something that you dowith someone else.
So, like you and I, we have theSaturday morning going to the
farmer's market here inGainesville, getting our coffee,
getting our egg sandwich andsitting and watching people.
That's our ritual and I've cometo really, really look forward
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to that.
Like that's one of the thingslike.
As I'm slogging throughWednesday afternoon, I'm like
ugh this week.
I'm like well, at least Saturdayis coming and we're going to
have that thing that we do, andlike this this is a ritual that
we have weekly, and I so lookforward to actually sitting and
talking to you about things.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Yeah, because Josh
doesn't talk to me throughout
the rest of the week.
He won't say anything to meuntil we record it's because I'm
an introvert and I only have somuch energy and I need to save
it for the people.
But rituals are very, veryimportant yeah, and I think it's
important that we build themwith the kids, because I think
we had started them and then,because we were doing saturday
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night movie nights and we weredoing themed dinners with them,
whatever we were watching withthe kids, and that kind of fell
out I don't know if, becausethat was pre-COVID, so I don't
know if it was COVID, I don'tknow what happened, but that
fell off for us.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Well, also look, if
you're a parent, you understand.
Like your kids, they go throughstages.
They're growing up, they'redeveloping their individuality,
so something that was cool withthem before isn't necessarily
cool with them as they grow up.
However, it's important that westill find different things if
that's going to be the thing youknow.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
But I'm finding now
that it's cyclical because Muffy
now is 18 and going to move outin August and go live on the
campus of the university and isstarting to really, I think,
sort of mourn that will.
She will be leaving and so lastnight she said can we do family
, family movie night?
And then she wanted a themedmovie like so we watched star
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wars and made wookie cookies.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
We watched star wars
and windrup was so not into oh
god, he hated it so much hehated star wars.
Whose son is this?
Because, because he absolutelyhated it and like that's kind of
the age.
I was maybe slightly older whenStar Wars came out and it was
so captivating to me and wedidn't even show him the
original Star Wars.
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We showed him the Star Warswith the updated CGI.
He didn't give a shit.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
He did not care.
He was watching thestormtroopers, pew pew, pew.
And he looked at us and he saidhow is this appropriate for
children?
Oh God, why are you letting mewatch them kill people?
So he was.
We were like fine, you canleave the room because you're
making the rest of us miserable,but you have to read or draw,
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like you can't get on anotherscreen somewhere.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
So he went and he
drew.
Our eight-year-old son is 75years old.
What can I say?
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Yeah, but I mean he
is sick today, so maybe he was
getting sick and just wasn'tfeeling it.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, I don't know.
Now it's time for ourperimenopause update.
Now we have created a littlecharacter for Amanda's
perimenopause journey and thatis the delightful Irish lass
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Perimenopause.
So Perimen turned to me theother day and she said Josh, she
said I think that I am now anintrovert.
So that was cute.
We were in the middle of agroup of people and folks.
I am here to tell you thatthroughout our relationship I've
relied on Amanda to be theextrovert in social situations.
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And we were at a party and shewas not having it and she turned
to me and says I think that I'mnow an introvert.
And I am here to tell you Ipanicked, I panicked, I'm not
ready, I'm not ready to take upthe role as being the outgoing
one in the relationship.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
I mean I am
heretofore an extreme extrovert,
not even like extroverted LikeI am an extreme extrovert, not
even like extroverted like I aman extreme extrovert.
I will talk to anybody, I willtalk to everybody, I will
socialize, I will carry thesocial weight.
I have zero problem with it.
And we were, we were at a partyand it was people that we just
barely know.
We know them, but not likesuper well, we didn't know
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anybody else there.
I could not have gotten furtherinto the couch corner.
I mean I was so uncomfortable.
I mean they were lovely, thefood was good, like they were
very kind and welcoming.
I was just so uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah, that's
definitely a question of like
it's not you, it's me, type ofthing.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
It was a hundred
percent me.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
So did you, did you
like?
Was there any sort of like?
Oh shit, like I'm changing wereyou mourning the fact that
you're losing that.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
No, it's no mourning,
I just don't want.
I, I like, I just don't want tobe around people.
So I was texting with a friendof mine who was also on this
journey and I said do you findthat paramenopause is making you
more introverted?
And now this person isnaturally an introvert.
So she said I don't think thatI could get more introverted.
However, I don't want to leavethe house for days.
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So, and then I started lookinginto it and it is definitely a
thing where people don't want tosocialize has a lot to do with
your changing hormones and yourchanging moods, and I just, I
just don't, I just don't.
And so I said you know, we wereat this place with new people
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and her response was oh, no, newfriends, no, new friends.
Like.
I can tolerate the friends thatI have, but I don't want new
ones.
That takes more work than Ithink that I have the emotional
capacity for right now.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I just think it's
super interesting because, yes,
you are changing and I wrote upa little thing here.
It's a little skit that I wannado with you.
I've just texted it to you.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Lord.
And so what I wanna do is Iwant you to read the parts that
says Amanda says, and then I'mgonna take the.
I'm gonna don't read ahead,don't read ahead, lord, this is
long.
That's what she said.
I'm going to take the parts ofyour paramount apostles.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Internal dialogue,
your internal dialogue.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
And you just need to
tell me if I've got it right or
if I've got it wrong Right.
Right, Because I'm all abouttrying to empathize and one of
the things don't read ahead.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
You're reading.
I'm reading the first sentence.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Okay, do the Amanda
says and I will do the Amanda
thinks, and you tell me at theend of this if I've got it right
or if I've got it wrong.
It'll be a learning thing forme.
All right here so here we go,so we're at a party.
Here's Amanda standing by thecheese board swirling a glass of
Merlot, like it might explainthe point of all of this to her.
Amanda says, smiling.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Oh wow, what a
beautiful charcuterie board.
Martha, you always go above andbeyond.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Amanda thinks.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah, martha, we get
it.
You studied abroad, in Italy,and now you think stacking cured
meats makes you a culturalambassador.
I'm impressed, really.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
She smiles with her
lips but not with her eyes,
which have turned into slits ofbattlefield focus.
She's counting the minutesuntil it's socially acceptable
to leave 28 by her last check,27 now.
Amanda says.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Oh, I'm just going to
pop over and say hi to Susan.
I have not seen her in forever.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Amanda thinks.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
If I don't walk away
from this mansplainer in the
fleece vest, I'm going to startreciting the US Constitution in
reverse, just to drown him out.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
She navigates the
room like a submarine commander,
avoiding enemy sonar.
Her internal thermostat is setto hellfire and someone turned
the music up so loud she canfeel her ovaries recoiling
Amanda says to Susan cheerfullyoh, I've just been feeling a
little, I don't know off latelyHormones, you know.
Amanda thinks.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
No, susan, you don't
know.
Your hormones are still hostingbrunch and doing pilates, while
mine are flipping tables andhurling chairs at the dj.
I'm one unsolicited opinionaway from growling but amanda
keeps smiling.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
She plays the part,
she's gracious, composed the
picture of handling it.
Meanwhile, inside there's afull-scale insurgency.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Amanda says Of course
I read the group text.
I just wasn't sure what Sparklecasual meant.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
No one knows what it
means, karen.
It's a cry for help disguisedas a dress code.
I'm in stretchy pants and ablazer, and if that's wrong,
then fuck it, so be it.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Eventually she makes
it to a quiet corner pretending
to check her phone.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Really she's watching
the door like a hawk when the
uber app says five minutes away,her shoulders drop a quarter
inch.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
I hate to leave.
This has been so much fun.
I will be in bed with a fanblowing directly on my face in
17 minutes and not one of youfuckers can stop me.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Godspeed to the rest
of you and with that amanda
vanishes like a hormonal phantomin the night, trailing a faint
scent of lavender and righteousfury Scene.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
It's all true.
It's all true.
I am.
My internal temperature ishellfire.
That's true.
I don't know what Sparkle.
I am here for a themed party.
I don't know what Sparklecasual is.
That would piss me off.
I wouldn't know what SparkleCasual is.
That would piss me off.
I wouldn't like that.
So I've started following acontent creator on Instagram,
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right, and her name is let mefind her.
Hang on one second.
I had her and then she wentaway.
So she's a digital creator.
Her name is Melanie Sanders.
Her Instagram handle is justbeing Melanie.
She is the founder of the we DoNot Care movement and that is
for our perimenopausal andmenopausal women, and every day
she does an update about what wedo not care about, and it's so
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good.
But the one thing that I wasgoing to tell you about it's
really interesting because I'mlearning now about symptoms that
I have that was like oh gosh, Ididn't realize that was a
perimenopause symptom.
So I had commented on one ofher most recent posts and now we
have a friend who gets likethousands of likes on her
comments on these posts.
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I got six and I'm OK with that,like I'm not viral, but I Well.
The first one was that somebodyshe was talking about we do not
care.
And I said something about therage and how I can't even stay
sane on team's calls at workanymore because people's voices
make me angry.
They don't annoy me, they makeme angry.
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So other people were saying, oh, the rage is real and they're
commenting.
So it's kind of like thislittle community of like we all
see each other Right.
So she's doing one of herupdates and her husband, bless
him, wanders into the scene andshe just turned around and was
like get out and so and thecomments were just like all of
us hushing him at one, like allat once, like this poor man, and
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she was so much just like Ilove him, I don't, I wish him
well, but I just I don't.
I wish him well, but I just Idon't even want to be around the
dog, like I just want all ofthe people to be away from me.
So somebody was talking abouttheir symptoms and they said the
head pressure.
For about six months I havebeen feeling like really and I
think I've mentioned it to you alot of pressure in my head and
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I thought head right, and Ithought is that allergy?
Is that, you know, the weatherchanging.
Apparently it's a freakingperimenopause symptom where,
when your hormones change, youget damn pressure in your head,
like you are ascending ordescending in a plane, and I
want to know why.
Why, when the great creator, orthe matrix or whomever you
believe in, was like we're goingto make these women and they're
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going to be awesome and they'regoing to be able to carry
babies, but then, as they getolder, that needs to change
because we don't want old ladiesout here with babies.
I don't even know why thisneeds to change.
And then it all starts changing.
Why do we have frozen shoulder?
Why do we have the thing whereit feels like ants are biting
you, but they're really not?
Why do we have itchy ears?
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Why does my head feel like it'sfilling full of helium?
Why are these the things?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
that have to go along
with it.
Well, clearly you've donesomething wrong and karma is
coming back for you.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Oh, I am sad for you,
it is not going to go well for
you tonight, friend, I'm goingto sit back with my wine and I
got to tell you so.
Like I need to show you thisthing and we can put it on our
socials, but I'm just going toshow it to you right now.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Like they always say
that, like wine makes
perimenopause or alcohol makesperimenopause worse, this is how
I feel about it that is, thatyou're showing me a thing that's
the fanfare from, I guess, 20thcentury fox, but the icon says
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I don't give a fuck well,because it says you shouldn't
drink wine.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
It only make your
perimenopause symptoms worse.
And then that just 20th CenturyFox says I don't say that word
on this podcast.
You can say it again.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yeah, no, I got it.
I got it.
So here's a question for you,though Are you ever able to pull
yourself out of the hormonalhaze and still act rationally,
like?
How difficult is it for you touse your intellect to override
your feelings?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I mean, I haven't had
to yet because you haven't made
me angry enough.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I don't know.
No, you're living this wholeass other life at work and all
that stuff.
Don't just put it on me, I knowI was teasing.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
I think I'm doing
okay because the kids still seem
to want to be around me and youstill have a job right, I don't
it's.
I mean, yes, I can pull myselftogether and do what I need to
do, but I'm just gonna be angryinside about it, okay well, when
you burst like vesuvius, thenplease make sure to text me well
apparently I'm going to becauseI have freaking head pressure.
(23:04):
My head's to explode at somepoint in time.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, well, make sure
that you just kind of stand
back when that happens, so Idon't get anything on me.
Don't look at me like that.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
It's like Gallagher
and the watermelon.
That's what you need.
Just need to wear a raincoatand know you're in the splash
zone got it bills keep.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I put a post up on
the gainesville subreddit and it
got a little attention, whichsurprised me is it more than the
six people who commented or wholiked my comment?
Yes, what comment?
Speaker 4 (23:51):
On the.
I am Melanie people the we donot care, yeah, no, I got 275
upvotes.
Nice.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yeah and 54 comments.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Which, on the
Gainesville subreddit, you gotta
understand it's not huge.
It was pretty big and it wasvery interesting to me.
So what I posted was basicallysaying that I've been thinking
about the spaces between us andhow our world is advancing and
that you should check in withthe people that you love.
Saying that I was thinkingabout you show up, listen to
them without multitasking, laughwith them, love them and do it
(24:25):
before time runs out.
Reach out, say the thing, makethe plan whatever it is, do it,
because the window doesn't stayopen forever.
My thing wasn't that I wassaying that I was necessarily
feeling like I needed to connectwith this person or that person
.
It was just I was doing alittle bit of self-assessment
but then I was saying, hey,folks out there in Gainesville
(24:48):
connect with each other.
And I got a lot of responsesand I was really kind of
surprised because I didn'texpect that many responses.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Let me ask you a
question.
I want to know about yourresponses.
But so, first of all, this wasa post, not a comment on another
post.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
It was a post.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Okay, did you get any
negative responses?
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Oh yes, I did.
Why?
Because people, first of all.
I think people misunderstoodthe reason why.
A lot of people were giving meadvice on how to connect with
people, and that wasn't thepoint of it.
The point of it was for me toremind people how important it
is to do that.
But people were like, oh, youshould go hang out downtown, or
(25:24):
you should go do this, or whydon't you go do that?
One person was like hey, youwant to hang out, you want?
to hang out sometime have youmade a friend?
I like the outdoors video games, exercise, talking, trying
different sports, etc.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Is this a female?
Speaker 1 (25:37):
I don't think so I'm
not going to read their.
No, it's a male appearingperson on their profile picture.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
You made a friend.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yeah, I kind of felt
bad because I did not do that in
order to hang out with people.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
No, but now see,
that's your extrovert.
You're in your extrovert era.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, I don't know
about that, but a lot of people
were commenting how they thoughtthat Gainesville was a shithole
, which I did not appreciate andnot the point.
Some people commented on howpeople are strange and they were
just gonna keep to themselves.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
I mean, they're not
wrong.
People are weird.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
I'm with you, says
"'The older I've gotten, "'the
more introverted I've become.
"'during COVID, when peoplewere upset "'about not being
able to be around other people,"'i was probably wearing an Ew
People T-shirt "'and enjoyingmyself by myself at home'".
Speaker 4 (26:25):
I don't know about
enjoying themselves at home.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yeah, well, I just
thought it was super interesting
.
I didn't expect it.
I did not expect it and stillgetting comments as well.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
How long has this
post been up?
Speaker 1 (26:36):
12 days.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Nice, yeah, see, you
have a whole nother life.
You don't tell me about.
This is the first time I'veheard about this post people.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Right, because I was
saving it for the podcast
jackass.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Well, we podcasted
less than 12 days ago.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, it didn't get
response immediately.
My thing these days has beenpeople.
You need to go connect witheach other because, our world is
about to change drastically andthe connections you have with
other people are going to becritically important for you
surviving.
I don't know if people arepaying attention to AI and how
many jobs that's gonna take awayfrom people and how that's
(27:14):
gonna upset our apple cart.
It's gonna be staggering,Staggering.
We have people who do jobs.
Now that is basically just datapushing those jobs are going to
be gone because you're gonnahave the people who do jobs now
that is basically just datapushing.
Yep, those jobs are going to begone because you're going to
have the people who are veryrich deciding that in their
companies this can all behandled by AI and guess what?
Speaker 4 (27:35):
Yeah, and that's
going to go wrong.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Because you and I
both know we leverage AI enough
in our work that it is notinfallible.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Oh no, ai is trained
by human beings and the data set
that it pulls from is justhuman input.
And I have had AI lie to me.
I have had AI present to medata as if it was true.
And then I asked it to cite itssources and it said oh well,
just kidding, I did this onething where I was asking for an
(28:05):
analysis of something in myindustry and it gave me it spit
out a fact, and I said, okay,well, great, cite your sources
so that I can do my own research.
It says well, this is all basedon anecdotal evidence.
I'm all like okay, give melinks to the anecdotal evidence.
And it couldn't do that and itbasically finally admitted oh
(28:31):
well, I don't have that.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Yeah, like, where the
fuck did you get your stats
from?
Then mine tells me when, when Iknow it says something wrong,
because I use it to help me.
I don't use it to research forme, but I will upload like five
articles and say synthesize thisfor me, and it will say
something that I know is nottrue.
And then I will tell it thatit's not true and it'll say, oh,
you're absolutely right.
Thank you for that.
I don't need it to sound human.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
But it's gonna.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
I don't need it to.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I don't know why we
think it's gonna be better than
us, because it's just basicallya mirror reflection of us with
more access to information, butthe information it has access to
is information that's beenentered by flawed human beings,
so we're screwed.
I don't even remember what theinitial point of this segment
was.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
You need to connect
with people, because AI is
coming for your jobs apparently.
Yes, or connecting with people.
Like I go out and facilitatewith teachers and you speak with
large groups of people vets andveterinarians and things like
(29:33):
that.
Like those are things that westill are gonna need humans for.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Right, right, right,
yeah.
So connect with the people inyour local community, because
you're going to need to rely onthem.
You're gonna need to networkwith them and don't think that
social media or that AI is goingto be your key to connection
(29:57):
and the future, because it's not.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
that's all I'm saying
welcome to our comedy podcast.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
You keep saying that
you keep saying our comedy
podcast is a life podcast.
God damn it.
Josh's Haunted Shit Parade.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Welcome to Josh's
Haunted Shit Parade.
I'm going to read you threethings, three objects, and you
tell me which is the mosthaunted.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
And this might be a
regular segment and it might
fucking not be.
I do not know.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Well, you're saying
the bad words a lot today.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, it's okay,
though, because I've held back
in the last couple of podcastsand now I'm getting my spleen
out here and then I'll go backto being nice, the next podcast,
right?
Speaker 4 (30:47):
If this is your first
time listening to us, please
understand that it usually isn'tthis egregiously cursi, but
apparently today it is.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
It is.
That's why.
Okay, so three objects, and youtell me which one, in your
opinion, is the most haunted.
All right Number one a snowglobe with a goat inside of it.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Oh Lord.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Number two, a Furby
that only says not again, oh my
God.
And number three, a lava lampthat only works when you're
deeply sad.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Are these real things
, or is one of them a real thing
?
Speaker 1 (31:21):
No, they're all real
things, but you tell me which
one you think is more haunted.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
I think the damn snow
globe with the ghost inside of
it is the most haunted.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Goat, not ghost goat,
I meant goat, I meant goat.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Goats are scarier
than ghosts.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Are.
They Are goats scary to you.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
No, I want a baby
goat so badly.
But you said the goats have thedemon eyes.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
They do.
They've got like their irisesare horizontal, like horizontal
bars, and that is scary as shit.
I can't deal with that.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Eyes scare you though
, right.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Huh.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
You're scared of eyes
being weird, looking like, like
eyes that are just white orsomething with no it's
interesting because, like I'm, apainter right and.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I paint portraits and
the thing I'm convinced that,
the thing that is it that giveslife to a painting, is how well
you can do eyes.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Yes, and you're very
good at it.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah, and so you can
take like a glob of shit, right,
like you can take like one ofthese little shit emojis and if
you paint realistic looking eyesat them, it all of a sudden
gives them like that'sterrifying.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Don't ever do that.
I'm gonna.
No, thank you.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
So eyes are, yeah,
eyes give life.
And weird freaky eyes in moviesfreak me the hell out.
So you would say that numberone a snow globe with a goat in
it is the most scary.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
So you're saying that
the Furby that only says not
again is not traumatizing?
Speaker 4 (32:43):
Listen, Furby and I
have a history.
So I was teaching in the late90s when Furby was a thing and
apparently a child had broughtFurby in, put it in their cubby.
I didn't know it.
And then I was in the room bymyself putting out the nap mats
because it was preschool, andthen all of a sudden the damn
thing started talking.
It scared me so much.
(33:03):
I took Furby to the director'soffice and said Furby has to be
in here for the rest of the day.
Furby got in trouble and hadin-school suspension because I
couldn't deal with it.
So the Furby saying not again,it doesn't scare me, it's
happened.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
You just take it and
the lava lamp doesn't scare you
at all.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Well, lava lamps are
scary because they can catch on
fire, not because it just turnson.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
when you're sad,
you've never had a lava lamp.
I was scared of having onebecause I heard they exploded.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
No right.
That's why I didn't have one.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah, okay, so you
say that the snow globe with a
goat inside of it is the mosthaunted thing?
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
All right, well,
there you go.
I'd say the Furby, but thisisn't my game, it's your game.
So there you go.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Oh wait, is there not
a story behind them?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
What?
No, I mean that makes it morehaunted.
All of a sudden you have aFurby that's in your house,
right, and it just says notagain.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
I thought there was
going to be a story behind which
one of these was actuallyhaunted.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
No, it's for you to
determine.
I don't like this game.
It's for you to determine.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
It's not a game.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
No, it's not.
This is an opinion.
This is not a game.
There's a right or wrong answer.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
What if the Furby
knows the goat and there's a
connection in their stories.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
And then the goat
gets sad and the lava lamp comes
on.
I don't know.
Do you remember how you used tosay that the most terrifying
thing to you in the middle ofthe night would just be a child
laughing?
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Yes, yes.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
So more a kid
laughing than the Furby.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yes, yes All right.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Is that it?
Is that the whole game?
That's the whole segment.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
yes, this is dumb,
love you.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
This is the dumbest
segment you've ever done.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Pocket watch, ticking
constricting coat and vest,
marking moments, sparkingmovement, making minutes, never
giving rest.
Marble floor receiving everyleaving, footfall and beat,
echoed rhythm driven and givenby onward shuffling feet.
Flip, flop, drip, drop.
The faucet weeps its count.
Every splash, a second past,every slipping, dripping, drops,
amount.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
No one likes to be
told what to do and now's the
time, in the podcast, where wetell you what to do, amanda.
What should we do now?
Speaker 4 (35:11):
I'm still stuck on
this thing.
That wasn't a thing.
I don't know.
I didn't like that.
I don't like that at all.
Haunted things are scary.
I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
That wasn't a game
have you ever encountered a
haunted thing?
Speaker 4 (35:24):
okay, so I don't like
sleeping in rooms with mirrors
and we've talked about thisbefore in the podcast.
But if you're new to the, mybrother died of brain cancer
when I was 11.
And he had a different dad thanI did.
And after my brother died, thehouse phone rang Remember, we
had house phones and it was mybrother's dad and he said to me
(35:45):
I saw your brother today and Ithought he met my other brother
and I said, oh, yeah, no, he washere earlier.
And he said, no, no, I saw John, which was my brother that died
.
I saw him in the mirror.
Okay, then I could not sleep ina room with a mirror that I
could see into.
If there was a mirror in theroom had to be no light, because
I was terrified of looking in amirror and seeing something Not
(36:05):
necessarily my brother, butjust looking in the mirror and
seeing something Terrifying tome.
Still.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
No, I'm over that,
but for a really long time.
So when did you lose that fear?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
we've been in hotel
rooms since that yeah, I mean I
I mean like probably in my 30s,but I carried it for a really
long time, because I was 11 whenhe died like I carried it for a
long time.
Anyway, I was in my early tomid 20s.
I was dating a guy I don't know, like an hour or so outside of
town and we had gone to hisgrandmother's house for like
Christmas or something, and so Iwas staying there and I was in
(36:41):
a room by myself, but it wasclearly like a room that was an
add-on, like maybe it was aporch that they enclosed because
there was a window in the roomand I was trying to sleep
Because there was a window inthe room and I was trying to
sleep I have to sleep with thelight on Like I'm terrified, and
so I pull the curtain back tolook to see what.
I guess it was like a junk roomand there was like a scary doll
(37:04):
like stuck up against thewindow just like staring at me.
I can't.
No, I had a really hard timesleeping for a long time.
I don't do haunted stuff.
That's not okay with me.
We're not doing that.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
And now's the time in
the program where we tell you
what to do, Amanda.
What should we do?
Speaker 4 (37:22):
Oh, I had it, and now
I forgot.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
What recommendation
do you have for us?
Speaker 4 (37:25):
No, I had one and I
totally forgot, because this is
another symptom of perimenopause.
It's just brain fog, or you'rejust forgetting halfway through
a sentence what you're talkingabout.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
All right, well, I
have a recommendation then.
I recommend that you go aheadand subscribe to the 100 Things
that we Learned From Filmpodcast, because I am gonna
record with Mark Plant, who isone of the wonderful gentlemen
on there next weekend.
For his, I don't even remember.
I think it's Sex and Lies andRock and Roll, or Truth and Lies
(37:58):
and Rock and Roll somethingabout that where we're gonna
talk about a specific rock songor rock group.
And what did he say, jesus?
Speaker 4 (38:07):
I'm not.
I didn't know you were gonna.
You never tell me anything.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Well, I saved it for
the podcast.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
I didn't know you
were doing this.
My recommendation is findyourself a anything.
Well, I saved it for thepodcast.
I didn't know you were doingthis.
My recommendation is findyourself a partner who actually
talks to you.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Facts and lies, and
rock and roll is what it's
called.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
And.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I'm going to record
with him next weekend.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Have fun.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
So go ahead and
subscribe to 100 Things we
Learned From Film.
And he has this little extrapodcast when his partner, john
Watson, is out of town, whichJohn will be.
John's going to Canada and he's.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
What the hell, John?
Why are you going to Canada?
Well, never mind.
I was going to say not the US,but I know why.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yeah, we know why.
Alright, so go ahead andsubscribe to 100 Things we
Learned From Film and hear me onthat.
That's my recommendation.
Do you remember yours yet?
Speaker 4 (38:52):
I don't remember mine
, but I just want to take this
second to say it's June 1st, sohappy pride to all of our
friends.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Happy pride.
Happy pride to everyone, reallyTo everyone.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
The best pride.
So we've had some really goodpride experiences.
We've been in New York duringpride and that's been pretty
great.
I've been in Houston duringpride With Jeffff, with jeff
right and I was with the kids inlondon for pride and that was
so freaking amazing yeah, sothere you go wherever you are.
That's my recommendation.
(39:22):
Wherever you are, go celebratepride bam.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
All right, amanda.
That's all there is.
There is no more.
What'd you think of that mess?
Speaker 4 (39:38):
I mean, I'm still
angry about many things, but I'm
okay.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Yeah, you're going to
be.
It's going to be a thing thatlives in our lives.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
I'm a lumberjack and
I'm okay.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
All right.
So this episode is superfamiliar with the Wilsons, with
Made Possible by the followingcompletely real, definitely not
made up.
Individuals Antonio, thanks forhelping us forget the parts
that never make sense.
Josh Scar, for always knockingtwice and never asking why.
Daniel J Buckets for archivingthe dreams we pretended to have.
Chicken Tom for installingmirrors on the dark side of the
(40:09):
moon.
Monique, for translating traumainto tasteful anecdotes.
Joey, joey leo for keepingsecrets in alphabetical order.
Refined gay jeff for servinglooks and subpoena worthy
embellishments that's right markand rachel for remembering just
enough to make everyoneuncomfortable, and dan and gavin
for building the illusion andthen charging rent to live
(40:30):
inside of it and also you knowwho we haven't shouted out in a
while.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
I want to shout out
Colin Robinson oh.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Colin Robinson, but
then there's also Rogue Rogue
Rogue Executive producers onthis podcast have been the Echo
in the Closet, the Ghost of aDeleted Text and the Dog who
Knows Too Much.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
What about the goat
in the snow globe?
Speaker 1 (40:51):
No, goat Tune in next
week when we reveal why did
Gavin file the paperwork and whydid it smell like licorice.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Oh God.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
All right, so until
next week, y'all have fun.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Go be kind, bye, bye,
bye.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Pocket watch ticking
constricting coat and vest,
marking moments, sparkingmovement, making minutes, never
giving rest.
Marble floor receiving Everyleaving, footfall and beat,
echoed rhythm driven and givenby onward shuffling feet.
Flip, flop, drip, drop.
The faucet weeps its count.
Every splash, a second passed,every slipping, dripping,
dripping, drops, amount Addingto the ledger.
On the edge of liquid time welose, heart keeps hammer, timing
(41:39):
, praying hang off your dues Onmortal meat machinery, muscle
finery.
I go recharging my batteries atthe winery as I'm pacing and
spacing and marking out its spanwith the percussion of
existence and distance sincethis whole thing began, blinded
by the traffic lights Blinkingand the red Rhythm in the
(41:59):
rainfall on the rooftopsoverhead, with the pendulum's
persistence and the metronome'srefrain, all keeping perfect
time, whether holy or weatherprofane, the whisper of the
wristwatch To the thunder of thedrum.
We're all just keeping timeUntil we find our time has come.
Clock tower calling, falling,stalling, never once for breath.
Brass bells telling, swelling,dwelling on the dance with death
(42:22):
Chiming, climbing up the spire,marking sacred hours.
Down below, the people go buying, throwing down funeral flowers,
tick tock, brick block building, time in stone.
Every corner, every border,walking time alone.
Shadows creeping, peoplesleeping through the slumbering,
numbered night.
Dawn will break the stark blackdarkness, bringing truth to
final light.
(42:43):
Seasons wheeling, dealing,feeling their eternal turn,
spring's beginning.
We are winning lessons that welearn.
Summer's blazing, autumn'sgrazing on the dying year,
calendar pages, sages, ages,crystal, crystal turning clear,
breathing, spacing hearts,embracing rhythm of the blood.
Breathing, spacing hearts,embracing rhythm of the blood,
(43:04):
pulse and flowing, ever knowingtimes, relentless flood, lungs
expanding understanding.
Breath is borrowed time, everyexhale tells a tale of life's
uncertain rhyme.
Digital display, night and dayglowing, green and bright
numbers changing, rearrangingdarkness into final light,
finally beating, completingcircuits of the hour, modern
(43:25):
timing, ancient chiming times,electric power, from the whisper
of the wristwatch to thethunder of the drum, from the
cradle to the grave.
We're keeping time till kingdomcome.
Every heartbeat, every backbeat, every breath we draw, marking
moments, sparking movements Intime's perfect law, all creation
keeping time and rhythm andrhyme, until the final measure,
(43:46):
when we rest beyond all time.