July 27, 2025 • 36 mins
While Amanda and Muffy are off on a girls' weekend, Josh sits down with his middle son Andrew (aka music producer AJCW) for a heartfelt deep dive into fatherhood, family crimes involving decorative sticks, and the surprising power of FOMO. They discuss bad parenting moments), the real reason Andrew started making music, and what it's like to accidentally go viral on the internet. Plus, a rousing round of the Flashbacks Quiz and a new appreciation for Chicken Tom. It's Marriage 2.0 meets Gen Z 1.0—with ambient beats and generational roasts.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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You are made of meat, my friend, all the way down.
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
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Wilson, get it.
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Speaker 1 (00:32):
Welcome to Super Familiar with the Wilsons.
I'm Josh and I'm Andrew, andthat is Andrew, that is not
Amanda.
Amanda and Muffy are on a girlsweekend.
They should be pulling intotown in a couple of hours.
In fact, they just crossed theFlorida border, so I have Andrew
sitting in, who is my middleson, and he is also known as
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AJCW.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, and you know what's interesting?
The substitute is also AJW.
Oh yeah, that's true, notablythat's true, yep.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
So y'all won't be able to tell the difference.
So, yeah, so folks, andrew isajcw and his music has been on
the podcast several times,notably when we have game time.
His songs spawn from the powerline is behind that thing, a
very old one, yeah, yeah yeah, Ilike that a lot.
That's uh, that's like realhitting the dance floor and
there's like a drop and all ofthose things yeah, and so that
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one is is quite fun.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
The the drums I think it's.
I took the the drums out of alive performance of Maxwell
Silver Silver Hammer.
I don't know why I had that onmy computer.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Wait, wait, are you serious?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, I never knew that.
I didn't know that.
I never brought it up probably.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
So you stole from the Beatles?
No wonder I like that song.
I stole from the Beatles, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
That's why it's so good.
Yeah, you figured it out.
It's because of the Beatlesderivation.
All right.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Well, I'm going to have to listen to it, because
I'm remembering that you won'tbe able to notice.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Well, okay, they're just like.
It could have been any drop.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Very good, anyway.
So Andrew's here, and one ofthe benefits of doing this
podcast that's about marriage2.0 with kids and all the little
side quests is we've got one ofthe kids here.
I think you're the first one ofour kids to appear on the
podcast purposefully and so,like I can ask you a whole bunch
of questions about what kind ofa dad that I am and you have to
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be honest, because there's amicrophone that.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
That's very true.
You're never allowed to lie inthe news, famously.
Uh, I'm curious, though hasn'tdaniel been on the on the cast
before?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
no, no, he never has.
Why did you think?
No, he never has.
Why did you think he had beendaniel's the oldest son, by the
way?
No, no, I'm mistaken.
All right, you're the first one.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I'm the first one.
It's a privilege.
I've always wanted to berecognized for my talent in
talking.
I'm quite good at it.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
You're so full of crap.
Are you comfortable doing thisor no?
You don't really do stuff Like.
You do music, but you don'tsing or anything.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
No, I mean I do, but like no one hears it.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
It's the best kind of singing, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Very private, very private.
I think I've posted a fewtracks with some heavily
modified vocals in there.
You know so, because you knowI'll twist up samples anyway.
Hold on, this is about whatkind of dad you are.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, no, but actually it is one question that
I have for you.
I've always been into music,right.
I've always played the guitarand made music on the computer
and written songs and this andthat Do?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
you do music because I did music.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah, probably, oh, but not you say probably.
So it wasn't an intentionalthing like you thought.
Oh, my dad's so freaking cool.
I want to be just like him.
So I'm going to do music.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
You know that You're right, though Actually that kind
of came later.
First it was Jacob Okay,Someone else named Jacob who
made music.
Now that I'm saying this outloud, it's kind of funny that
you made music my wholechildhood and then I guess it
just didn't phase me.
And then the moment this kid,Jacob, made music.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
So this is just like a friend of yours, just a friend
of mine from middle school Iwas like I want to be like jacob
.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Now that's.
That is kind of messed up.
Now that I now that I lay itout there, it is a little bit
messed up, but you certainly hadan influence over the type of
music that I enjoyed and thetype of production I was
familiar with mentally, um,before I ever started, you know.
So, like things like passionpit and whatnot, where that I
mean that's, that's reallyelectronic, and the, the use of
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and a lot of.
There's a lot of things I couldsay but, overall it gives you a
general sense that, combinedwith, maybe like the minecraft
soundtrack oh and some likehouse music came out of that.
All out of that came my music.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
So I never intentionally tried to force
making music or doing music onyou or your brother and then
your brother's way into thevisual arts which I'm into as
well, and I also never triedlike, in other words, I never
tried to push my interest, likewhat I like to do, um, onto you
guys, never, in fact.
I kind of shied away from itbecause I didn't want to be like
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the, the little league dad, youknow, trying to relive the
glory days and all that bullshit.
So I was really like intriguedwhen you started to pick it up,
when you started to do it.
My memory is that you did itbecause of, um, you liked video
game music, like plants versuszombies, and you were like I, I
want to make this music.
I think I really like thismusic.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
That's how I remember it yeah, so, um, well, so a
little bit more detail than that, because that that's.
Those are sort of what I pulledinspiration from and that's a
good example.
You said plants versus zombies.
That's laura shigahari.
Uh, that soundtrack is isreally funky and but it it still
has a basis of, like, um,traditional music theory and
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piano music, um, that you'd hearjust played in a bar, you know,
uh piano music that you'd hearjust played in a bar.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Sure, like in a cartoon though.
Oh, and a cartoon Cartoon.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Bar, great, great, very good.
But apart from her, I hadmentioned C-418 as well and of
course, his music is yeah,you're way into C-418.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And it's heavily Influenced, heavily influenced
to me.
He himself was heavilyinfluenced by people like Ax
twin, um, in terms of theirambience, uh.
So there's a lot of piano, alot of orchestral stuff and and,
but still a lot of synth work,uh, and synthesis and cool
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sounds and stuff like that.
So, um, what was the originalquestion though?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I just started going off.
Yeah, no, no, no, this is alittle window.
Careful I can, I can, I cantalk about this music shit for
yeah years and years, littlewindow, careful, I can, I can.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I can talk about this music shit for yeah, years and
years.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Little window into my son andrew.
What was the question?
It oftentimes happens inconversations um I just remember
when you first started, man,you were bad, it was awful it
was so bad and I thought it wasgood too.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
That's, that's the funny thing about it.
Oh, I remember I was gonna saythe.
The thing that really catalyzeda lot of the music I made early
on wasn't actually the videogame stuff, like you mentioned,
although that was the influenceit was.
Um, my friend eve made filmsand would feature my friend
jacob's music and I had fomo.
(07:40):
That's literally like fomoactually got me up off the couch
, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Jealousy.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yep, jealousy and FOMO, one of the number one
points of inspiration formillions across history.
Yes, and so I would try to makethese, because Eve would make
like these jump scare centricfilms back in the day, because
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one of her films got a lot ofviews on Vimeo and it was a jump
scare oriented one, and so Ijust started churning out these
stupid tracks where it wouldhave this big jump scare halfway
through and I would just sendthem to Eve and just like
unprompted jump scare halfwaythrough, and I would just send
them to Eve and just likeunprompted and just hope that
one of them she would be likethis kid has some, has some good
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ideas.
Let me, let me feature this andlike one of the stupid videos
and, uh, it did happen once ortwice, but the result of that is
that a lot of those songs werejust like really hilariously bad
.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
So let let's I do want to do this, though I want
to I want you to mention, like,how people can hear your music,
and the thing with with Evestuff is Eve created this web
series, the Monument Mythos.
That like is very like popular,like niche popular, but very
popular Like.
(09:04):
You've had like millions oflistens and views on your songs,
haven't you?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Mm-hmm yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
That's crazy, and I'm now jealous that you've had
millions of people listening toyour songs.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I think the correct thing for a dad to feel is proud
.
Actually, I'm very proud of you.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
This is not some weird Shakespearean thing where
where I'm gonna sneak up on youat night and strangle you in
your sleep because I'm jealous,yeah, uh, well, I'll keep one
eye open regardless.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
But, um, yeah, so at its peak, uh, the series it had,
I think because it went viral,um, a couple of the videos and
then a few influencers uh madelike explainer videos that got
really really even more viralthan the videos, paradoxically.
And so as a result, and sincethen for for context, it's kind
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of tampered off and in terms ofpopularity it still has a solid
audience, but it's not like atits peak.
It was like videos were gettinglike four million plays and
whatnot.
That's crazy.
Yeah, no, it was veryinteresting and it was very fun
being caught up in that.
I think that's something thatmore kids in my generation are
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experiencing.
Is these like I mean, it's notunique to the internet, but it's
amplified by the internet thewhole like was it 15 Minutes of
Fame?
Is that what it's?
It's not unique to the internet, but it's amplified by the
internet.
The whole like uh, was it 15minutes of fame?
Is that what it's called?
yeah, I guess, these days it'smore like 15 seconds because our
attention span is so muchshorter yeah, no, I mean, it is
in some ways and in other ways,like, especially with series
(10:40):
like this, if you garnercommunity, that can last years
and years.
Especially it's analog horror,adjacent content, which is its
own whole circle online, and alot of them skew younger, so
there's a lot of it's been likefive years.
A lot of them have graduatedhigh school while being fans of
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this series and so it's kind ofimprinted into them and that's
something that and, of course,that then my, my music, thusly,
is imprinted into them I lovethat.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Like to them you're this old guy.
Yeah, no, I I've had to thinkabout that more and more as as
time has gone on.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I've had to think about that more and more as time
has gone on the moment, becauseI watch YouTubers and listen to
musicians my whole childhoodand so the moment that they
started to be younger than methat was before I graduated I
remember Tommy In it I ShowSpeed.
These were like huge YouTubersand they were like a year below
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me and I was like what's going?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
on.
This can't be happening.
You just wait.
Oh, it's gonna keep happening.
Mocking you right now, for, oh,there's some people a couple
years younger than.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Oh, get out of here, dude.
No, don't worry, I get.
It was this why everyone wasmad at justin bieber back in the
day.
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I don't know Because he was young and they were like
cringe Listen.
When Justin Bieber started, Iwas already old.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Exactly that's what I mean.
And then I'm sure there wassome envy involved with that.
I was like, well, this kid isgetting all famous at 13.
I could have done that, it'snot special.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I could not have done that, so anyway.
So people can go on like applemusic and spotify and all these
different places, and they lookup ajcw which amanda always gets
wrong, by the way, listenersthat amanda always gets and it's
just his initials, it's so,there's that.
But just go find ajcw, listento his music and just enjoy,
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like how talented and amazing itis.
It blows me away, especiallywhen you sit down and you do
proper songs instead of just theatmospheric noise stuff, which
I recognize is good.
It's just my thing.
Like I said, I'm old and so Ilike songs that sound like songs
(13:06):
.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, that's not offensive toyou, is it?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Because it's not at all.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Coming out of my mouth.
It sounds offensive.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
No well, I don't listen to ambience.
You know I do when I'm doinghomework, but if I want to
listen to music, I'm not goingto the kind of stuff I make.
You know, there you go.
I mean, I am, but not you, notthe ambient stuff.
I definitely gravitate towardsstuff with a structure, with a
beat that's danceable, with goodlyrics, just like anyone else.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
But anyway, that's not why you're on.
You're on to let the folks knowwhat kind of a father that I
was and what kind of a fatherthat I am, and I want to give
the opportunity to tell theaudience whatever you want to
tell them about me, like, forexample, the worst thing I've
ever done as a dad to you.
I'm really opening myself uphere, okay Well uh, this is a
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safe space, Don't worry.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Um, I think I'll tell the the one that gets brought
up a lot- Uh, the one that Ifeel really guilty about, yeah.
Okay, go ahead.
Yeah, that one.
So there were these twig thingslike this fake plant or real
dead plant, something alongthose lines, yes, and it was
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found outside while Daniel and Iwere playing indoors.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
They were found in a container outside, all crapped
up.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, and I found them yes, and you were very much
displeased to find them in thatstate outside.
And you know, I want to saylogically assumed that one of us
had done that, and you decidedto get to the bottom of it,
whether we liked it or not.
And so we, you put us in timeout in the living room.
(14:56):
Uh, I remember this part well,both of our backs were against
the wall and we were like fourfeet away from each other, like
I don't even know, like you hadlined us up outside in a prison
yard or something like that.
And um, and you were like no,nothing's gonna happen until one
of you confesses.
And oh, this is so bad and Iknew I didn't do it.
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So I was like you better confess, daniel.
Like I don't want to be hereall day.
I, I got puzzles to solve, Igot coloring books big stack
coloring books to fill in.
Very busy today.
You can't be holding me up likethis.
And Dale just looked at me likewhat is your angle?
Why aren't you just admittingit?
(15:43):
Like what's going on?
And so we were furious witheach other.
You had successfully pit usagainst each other yes, we.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Well, it's the, it's the, the prison yard thing.
It's like that's what you do.
Is you, you pit?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
you get in the fight.
No, you just.
I haven't looked into prisonsin a while.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I don't know if that's legal anymore and and
what did I tell you that?
What did I tell you?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
well, essentially nothing was happening and right
neither of us were admitting tothe crime we have we obviously
one of us had committed I knewthat one of you did it, and so
our dad had a, a brilliantgambit, which was lying he he
claimed that there was asecurity camera outside that we
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had no knowledge of, and andthat he knew.
He already knew.
Of course he already knew.
Classic negotiating I alreadyknow you're guilty.
Just admit it, bud, right, justadmit it, so which?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
by the way, it's such a dumb thing like, like I
really must have thought thatyou were stupid, like both of
you were just dumb as rocks Forme to say I know which one of
you did it, just admit it.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well, the fascinating thing about what you just said
is that we were dumb as rocksbecause we were like seven and
eight, right, oh God.
So we were, and it worked on us.
As a result, I was fullyconvinced that there was a
security camera outside.
Maybe there was a shred ofdoubt, but largely I just still
thought it was Daniel, and so Iwas like all right, the jig's up
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, daniel, there's the camerasLike, come on, you got to admit
now.
And, shocker, we didn't admit.
And shocker, we didn't admit.
Neither of us decided tofalsely claim that it was us.
And this went on for a while.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I was like three seconds away from reenacting the
Michael.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Jackson.
Bad video, you know, with theyard fight there.
Go ahead.
I'm sorry I don't know that one, but definitely show that to me
after.
I'm sure I'll save my laughterfor that.
I'm sure it was a great bit.
I'm familiar with the song, ifthat helps.
So we come to find out what.
We come to find out that, well,our mom gets home and sees the
prison yard situation and it's alittle bit confused, wants to
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know like who, what we broke,what we, what on earth could we
have done wrong?
And uh, our dad explained toher the, the crime we had
committed, which was moving the,the dead plant, outdoors and
messing them up, and messingthem up, and messing them up.
Admittedly, yes and um, as itturns out, it was her they were.
(18:38):
She didn't want him anymore, soshe put him outside, which to
be, to be fair, that doesn'treally make sense either, but
you know I still feel so guiltyabout that.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I just want you to know that I still like I feel
like I need to apologize to youright now again, because that
was just really, really badparenting on my part.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
No, it wasn't great, and I say this a lot whenever
you bring this up and wheneveryou mentioned, you feel bad
about it.
Uh, I've never felt so muchunity with Daniel in that moment
.
Great when it turned out thatthe whole thing was BS.
It was really.
It was class consciousness.
You know the kid kid unity.
(19:26):
We were right all along and itwas actually our dad's fault,
and that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
The thing about dads is that they don't make mistakes
, generally speaking well, Idisabused you of that really
early, which actually, then, isa favor that I did for you.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Well, this is what I was going to say well, two
things.
First of all, it reallyhumanized you, yes, which you
know we didn't appreciate.
I didn't fully get toappreciate that until I was an
adult, because I was.
When I was a kid, I was justhype.
I was like no way, I was right.
Yes, we rarely ever win youagain.
You rarely win against your dadon things.
Typically they're right nomatter what.
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But in this instance, we wereobjectively in the right and
that felt excellent.
So that's why it really wasn'ttraumatizing at all, it was
invigorating.
But the other thing that thisstory does especially
considering we framed it as theworst thing you've ever done it
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really wasn't that bad.
So I think that goes to show alot about how you were as a dad,
that this was one of yourbiggest mistakes.
I think this would be prettylow on the list.
For a lot of the dads that Ihear about from, like my friends
and my peers and just randompeople online or on TV talking
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about their parents, it'susually a lot worse than that on
TV talking about their parents.
It's usually a lot worse thanthat.
A lot of you never punished usphysically or anything like that
.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I was close, though I was really close that day.
We almost got there.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Okay, well, I'm glad we didn't cross that barrier.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Well, anyway, let me just say this we have little
Winthrop now and I've learnedall of the lessons that I need
to learn from you and daniel sothat I don't make those mistakes
with winthrop.
And I still do make mistakeswith winthrop.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
So there you go well, yeah, mistakes, uh, are
inevitable.
I think if, if you are raisedwith parents who are literally
perfect which has never happened, but theoretically speaking, I
don't know I think you'd get acomplex as an adult.
You'd get thrown into the worldand people start acting
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irrationally and you're like huh, I thought everyone was perfect
.
I didn't know people mademistakes, yeah, well, you're
safe from that.
Thank goodness.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
What time is it?
It's time who?
What time is it?
Game time?
All right, that music is by youand that music tells us that it
is game time.
And, andrew, you are going toplay the flashbacks quiz, which
is something that we do oftenhere on the old stinking show,
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and basically what it is is yougot to tell me when something
happens in history.
So I'm going to give you anevent that's going to be your
anchoring event and then I'mgoing to give you events after
that and you have to figure outwhere they fit on a timeline.
Now to make it harder, when Iplay this game, I try to guess
close to whatever date it wasyeah, you don't have to do bonus
points yeah, but you don't getbonus points.
(22:55):
All you have to do is say it'sbefore this one and after that
one okay, so.
I'm gonna give you youranchoring event right.
This you get this one for free.
Now, if you want to guess whenthis happened, feel free.
Okay, okay, sure, okay.
Your anchoring event is GeorgeEastman wants an easier way to
take vacation photos, so heinvents the first Kodak camera.
(23:16):
When do you think that happened?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
1900s, let's say, let's say like the first Kodak
camera, yeah, 60s.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
All right, it is 1888 .
Wow.
So on your little paper there inthe middle of the paper, in the
middle of the paper write 1888and then Kodak camera.
That'll just help you keeptrack of where things go.
All right, so now this one.
You're gonna have to tell me isit before or after the kodak
camera ready?
Yeah, okay.
The actress faye emerson debutsas one of the first late night
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talk show tv hosts.
She takes the radical approachof combining comedy with
politics.
Is that before or after theKodak camera?
After, okay, so after iscorrect.
Do you want to just guess adate?
50s 1949.
(24:21):
Okay, so right.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Very good.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
No, you probably want to write it on the other side
of that timeline.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
This is newer, this is older.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Okay, you're doing it opposite.
Very good, all right.
So 1949, first late-night TVtalk show host.
Next one Sumerians.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Over here yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Create one of the first board games where players
race around a track.
The rules, roll the dice.
Squeeze me the rules.
The thing just disappeared.
It disappeared, yes, the rulesare now.
I want to know this, thoughRoll some dice and move
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something.
So when do you think that?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
happened?
That would.
My guess is 6,000 BC.
It is 2,500 BCE.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Do you think that happened?
Uh, that would.
My guess is 6 000 bc.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
It is uh 2500 bce 20, so like 250.
Okay, all right, no, not 250,2500 so 2500.
Yeah, I, I talk weird, but Iknow that yeah all right.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
So so far you're three for three.
Of course you've gotten veryeasy ones.
So let's, let's see what we cando here.
You're probably going to wantto leave a little bit more room
between 1888 and 2500 bc.
Now you've done it all right.
Here we go too late.
France declares war on britain.
Britain moves troops from itsus colonies to defend the
territory it cares about evenmore the Caribbean.
(25:46):
When did that happen?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
The Caribbean, that would be in the 1700s.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
All right, so you want to put that in between
Kodak camera and the Sumerians.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yes, and it's probably actually, if not early
1700s, 1600s.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
All right, well, you did get the placement correct,
but it's 1778.
Okay all right.
So you were more correct inyour first guess.
So 1778, British moves troopsto the Caribbean.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I'll just get rid of Sumer if I need to.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Okay, if that becomes problematic, next one A
musician writes a song about hisfriends.
Midnight plane to Houston.
The lyrics evolve and becomeGladys Knight's Midnight Train
to Georgia.
When do you think GladysKnight's song Midnight Train to
Georgia was written?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Well, they had trains .
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Yes, so probably not Sumeria.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yeah, almost definitely.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Or Sumer.
I think Not Sumeria, I thinkit's Sumer, doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Let's see, I'm going to say like after TV host.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
All right, so after 1949,.
You want to guess a date?
Nope.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Not this time.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
It is 1973.
Okay, so you did get thatcorrect.
And in the 70s they did havetrains.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Indeed, they did.
All right, you ready for the?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
next one yeah, to keep invaders out competing
chinese states built barriersthat later became the great wall
.
That helps them focus on theirreal enemies one another.
I'm glad that they united tomake the wall, and then they
could just continue to beat thecrap out of each other that
that's the story of China is thevarious warring states periods.
(27:39):
Okay, very good, of which thereare many, so where does that
event go, do you think?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Well, that's the thing is, there were many
warring states periods and Idon't know which one they built
the wall in.
So if I had to guess, you do.
I think it happened before theBritish troops and after Sumer.
Okay, I think it's probably BC.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I'm going to put Sumer over here.
It's happening, all right.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
So the real answer is 400 BCE.
Lovely.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Very good.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Lovely.
So you have gotten six out ofsix so far.
You're doing great.
This is where I start to screwup, though, near the last couple
.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
There's a lot of dots now.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
All right, here we go .
The Mona Lisa is stolen.
It isn't very popular, so noone actually notices until the
next day.
The theft is what makes thepainting famous.
Did not know that.
When do you think that happened?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Well, this was during the Renaissance, okay, and it
wasn't famous yet.
Gosh interesting, but it wouldbe famous.
It would be famous like 100years after I would think Okay,
so, oh, it's either before orafter the British troops.
That's rough, I'm going to saybefore.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Before the British.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Before 1778.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I think you might be safe.
No incorrect, ah, 1911.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Wow, they were sleeping on the Mona Lisa.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I know it.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
All right, so let's see 19, what that was, 1911.
All right, here we go as Lewisand Clark trek through the Nope,
as Lewis and Clark Nope, asLewis and Clark trek to the
Pacific.
A canoe nearly capsizes.
The team's papers and tools aresaved by its quick-thinking
(29:36):
interpreter, sacagawea.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Well, so that would be after the revolution.
So I'm going to say before 1888, after 1778.
All right, let's see.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Correct 1805.
You ready for your last one?
Last one, let's see Correct1805.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
You ready for your last one, Last one?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
wow, okay, you're six for seven right now.
You've only gotten one wrong.
All right, here we go.
President Millard Fillmoresends US gunboats to Japan,
forcing it to open up for trade.
This helps to later end therule of shoguns and samurai.
This is a hard one, I think itis.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Did you name the president?
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Millard Fillmore Sounds like a brand of
refrigerator.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
That's President Fillmore.
Yes, that's a president.
Are you sure that's a president?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Dude, millard Fillmore, I got it right here.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I've never heard of a president, I know the
presidents and I Dude MillardFillmore.
I got it right here.
I've never heard of a president.
I know the presidents and I'venever heard of a Fillmore.
I'm crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yes, you are.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I must have forgotten that one.
Now, is that after the Kodakcamera is the question, because
I think it was definitely beforethe Mona Lisa was stolen since
the United States?
Yeah, I'm going to say afterkodak before, no, no, no, no.
Before kodak camera after 1805.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
okay, so all right, that's a thin window there.
Let's see and correct 1852.
Very, very good, so you got gotseven out of eight events
correct, so that's a score of 24out of 28.
Don't ask me how they computethat, but that's what happens
(31:24):
and the oh hang on now.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Stop it.
How is seven out of eight equalto 24 out of 28?
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Dude.
This is how the New York Timesdoes things.
I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Maybe the scores are weighted differently.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Probably so.
Anyway, there you go.
That was our flashbacks quiz.
How did you all do out there?
Did you do better than Andrew?
Hey, no one likes to be toldwhat to do, and now is the time
in the program where we tell youwhat to do.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Andrew, what should we do?
Well, about a year ago Iwatched a show called Severance
and it was really cool, so watchthat.
It was a good show.
There's an album I justlistened to called Sound from
the Window by Evan Wright, andthat was a really good album, so
I recommend listening to that.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
What's the?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
style?
I don't know.
It's like Electronic, it's likefolky kind of Maybe, but it's
definitely like high productionkind of stuff.
There's a few electronicelements in there, but just
(32:40):
really intricate sounds.
It's very relaxing, kind ofslow, like kind of whispery sort
of vocals.
I'm using a lot of descriptorsbecause again, I really don't
know what the primaries would be.
But yeah, it was, it's good, solisten to it all right.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Well, very good, thank you, andrew, appreciate it
you're welcome all right,andrew.
That's all there is there is nomore.
What did you think of that mess?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
It was fun.
You know, I think I'm funniersomehow when I'm talking to the
microphone.
Oh okay, I don't know why and Idon't think I was that funny,
but I don't know, it's different.
Maybe I should be a streamerand live in my room all day
don't you kind of do that anyway?
Speaker 1 (33:40):
no, you don't.
You have a job, that's so rudenow?
Speaker 2 (33:43):
yes, a little bit, but people aren't watching me,
so that's different.
It's one big difference.
Um no, I'm not gonna do that.
I'm to keep doing what I'vebeen doing.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
All right, well, very good, well, this show could not
be accomplished without thecontributions from the following
people We'd like to thank Matt,who played John.
We'd like to thank Leo, whotook the role of Swen.
We'd like to thank Josh Scar,who today played the role of
Andrew Antonio.
(34:15):
Of course, played the role ofAndrew Antonio.
Of course, played the role ofHarold.
Danny Buckets played the roleof Edward Chicken.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Tom.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Chicken Tom was Leonard.
Monique from Germany played therole of Thomas Refined Gay.
Jeff was Carl, mark and Rachelthey both played the role of the
donkey, and Gavin and Danplayed themselves.
Of course, we'd also like tothank Joey.
Joey, and hopefully you willreturn to us next week when
(34:45):
Amanda will be with us.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yeah, and I just want to say my favorite thing about
I forgot his name Chicken John,chicken Tom, chicken Tom.
My favorite thing about him Iknow him well and his first name
is Chicken John, chicken Tom,chicken Tom.
My favorite thing about him Iknow him well and his first name
is Chicken on his birthcertificate.
And if we want to talk aboutbad fathers, oh, no, no, no, no,
no, no.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Chicken Tom is a friend of mine and he's a good
father, so stop right there.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Oh, okay, I thought it was a bit.
No it's not a bit, we're goingto delete that.
I thought that was a list ofmade up names to be funny.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Those are real people names.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Is his first name really Chicken.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
It is Chicken.
Charles Tom is his full name.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Are you serious?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Why is his name Chicken?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I'm okay with it, I'm just like All right, well,
andrew and I are going to figurethis one out.
We'll talk to you next week,thank you.
Familiar Wilson's Media Relationships are the
story.
You are made of meat, my friend, all the way down.
The following podcast useswords like and and also If
you're not into any of that shit, then now's your chance.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Three, two, one run I'm super familiar with you.
Wilson, get it.
Two.
One run I'm super familiar withthe Wilsons Get it.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Welcome to Super Familiar with the Wilsons.
I'm Josh and I'm Andrew, andthat is Andrew, that is not
Amanda.
Amanda and Muffy are on a girlsweekend.
They should be pulling intotown in a couple of hours.
In fact, they just crossed theFlorida border, so I have Andrew
sitting in, who is my middleson, and he is also known as
(00:58):
AJCW.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, and you know what's interesting?
The substitute is also AJW.
Oh yeah, that's true, notablythat's true, yep.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
So y'all won't be able to tell the difference.
So, yeah, so folks, andrew isajcw and his music has been on
the podcast several times,notably when we have game time.
His songs spawn from the powerline is behind that thing, a
very old one, yeah, yeah yeah, Ilike that a lot.
That's uh, that's like realhitting the dance floor and
there's like a drop and all ofthose things yeah, and so that
(01:36):
one is is quite fun.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
The the drums I think it's.
I took the the drums out of alive performance of Maxwell
Silver Silver Hammer.
I don't know why I had that onmy computer.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Wait, wait, are you serious?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, I never knew that.
I didn't know that.
I never brought it up probably.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
So you stole from the Beatles?
No wonder I like that song.
I stole from the Beatles, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
That's why it's so good.
Yeah, you figured it out.
It's because of the Beatlesderivation.
All right.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Well, I'm going to have to listen to it, because
I'm remembering that you won'tbe able to notice.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Well, okay, they're just like.
It could have been any drop.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Very good, anyway.
So Andrew's here, and one ofthe benefits of doing this
podcast that's about marriage2.0 with kids and all the little
side quests is we've got one ofthe kids here.
I think you're the first one ofour kids to appear on the
podcast purposefully and so,like I can ask you a whole bunch
of questions about what kind ofa dad that I am and you have to
(02:41):
be honest, because there's amicrophone that.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
That's very true.
You're never allowed to lie inthe news, famously.
Uh, I'm curious, though hasn'tdaniel been on the on the cast
before?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
no, no, he never has.
Why did you think?
No, he never has.
Why did you think he had beendaniel's the oldest son, by the
way?
No, no, I'm mistaken.
All right, you're the first one.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I'm the first one.
It's a privilege.
I've always wanted to berecognized for my talent in
talking.
I'm quite good at it.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
You're so full of crap.
Are you comfortable doing thisor no?
You don't really do stuff Like.
You do music, but you don'tsing or anything.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
No, I mean I do, but like no one hears it.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
It's the best kind of singing, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Very private, very private.
I think I've posted a fewtracks with some heavily
modified vocals in there.
You know so, because you knowI'll twist up samples anyway.
Hold on, this is about whatkind of dad you are.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, no, but actually it is one question that
I have for you.
I've always been into music,right.
I've always played the guitarand made music on the computer
and written songs and this andthat Do?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
you do music because I did music.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah, probably, oh, but not you say probably.
So it wasn't an intentionalthing like you thought.
Oh, my dad's so freaking cool.
I want to be just like him.
So I'm going to do music.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
You know that You're right, though Actually that kind
of came later.
First it was Jacob Okay,Someone else named Jacob who
made music.
Now that I'm saying this outloud, it's kind of funny that
you made music my wholechildhood and then I guess it
just didn't phase me.
And then the moment this kid,Jacob, made music.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
So this is just like a friend of yours, just a friend
of mine from middle school Iwas like I want to be like jacob
.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Now that's.
That is kind of messed up.
Now that I now that I lay itout there, it is a little bit
messed up, but you certainly hadan influence over the type of
music that I enjoyed and thetype of production I was
familiar with mentally, um,before I ever started, you know.
So, like things like passionpit and whatnot, where that I
mean that's, that's reallyelectronic, and the, the use of
(04:52):
and a lot of.
There's a lot of things I couldsay but, overall it gives you a
general sense that, combinedwith, maybe like the minecraft
soundtrack oh and some likehouse music came out of that.
All out of that came my music.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
So I never intentionally tried to force
making music or doing music onyou or your brother and then
your brother's way into thevisual arts which I'm into as
well, and I also never triedlike, in other words, I never
tried to push my interest, likewhat I like to do, um, onto you
guys, never, in fact.
I kind of shied away from itbecause I didn't want to be like
(05:27):
the, the little league dad, youknow, trying to relive the
glory days and all that bullshit.
So I was really like intriguedwhen you started to pick it up,
when you started to do it.
My memory is that you did itbecause of, um, you liked video
game music, like plants versuszombies, and you were like I, I
want to make this music.
I think I really like thismusic.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
That's how I remember it yeah, so, um, well, so a
little bit more detail than that, because that that's.
Those are sort of what I pulledinspiration from and that's a
good example.
You said plants versus zombies.
That's laura shigahari.
Uh, that soundtrack is isreally funky and but it it still
has a basis of, like, um,traditional music theory and
(06:10):
piano music, um, that you'd hearjust played in a bar, you know,
uh piano music that you'd hearjust played in a bar.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Sure, like in a cartoon though.
Oh, and a cartoon Cartoon.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Bar, great, great, very good.
But apart from her, I hadmentioned C-418 as well and of
course, his music is yeah,you're way into C-418.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
And it's heavily Influenced, heavily influenced
to me.
He himself was heavilyinfluenced by people like Ax
twin, um, in terms of theirambience, uh.
So there's a lot of piano, alot of orchestral stuff and and,
but still a lot of synth work,uh, and synthesis and cool
(06:55):
sounds and stuff like that.
So, um, what was the originalquestion though?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I just started going off.
Yeah, no, no, no, this is alittle window.
Careful I can, I can, I cantalk about this music shit for
yeah years and years, littlewindow, careful, I can, I can.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
I can talk about this music shit for yeah, years and
years.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Little window into my son andrew.
What was the question?
It oftentimes happens inconversations um I just remember
when you first started, man,you were bad, it was awful it
was so bad and I thought it wasgood too.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
That's, that's the funny thing about it.
Oh, I remember I was gonna saythe.
The thing that really catalyzeda lot of the music I made early
on wasn't actually the videogame stuff, like you mentioned,
although that was the influenceit was.
Um, my friend eve made filmsand would feature my friend
jacob's music and I had fomo.
(07:40):
That's literally like fomoactually got me up off the couch
, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Jealousy.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yep, jealousy and FOMO, one of the number one
points of inspiration formillions across history.
Yes, and so I would try to makethese, because Eve would make
like these jump scare centricfilms back in the day, because
(08:06):
one of her films got a lot ofviews on Vimeo and it was a jump
scare oriented one, and so Ijust started churning out these
stupid tracks where it wouldhave this big jump scare halfway
through and I would just sendthem to Eve and just like
unprompted jump scare halfwaythrough, and I would just send
them to Eve and just likeunprompted and just hope that
one of them she would be likethis kid has some, has some good
(08:31):
ideas.
Let me, let me feature this andlike one of the stupid videos
and, uh, it did happen once ortwice, but the result of that is
that a lot of those songs werejust like really hilariously bad
.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
So let let's I do want to do this, though I want
to I want you to mention, like,how people can hear your music,
and the thing with with Evestuff is Eve created this web
series, the Monument Mythos.
That like is very like popular,like niche popular, but very
popular Like.
(09:04):
You've had like millions oflistens and views on your songs,
haven't you?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Mm-hmm yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
That's crazy, and I'm now jealous that you've had
millions of people listening toyour songs.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I think the correct thing for a dad to feel is proud
.
Actually, I'm very proud of you.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
This is not some weird Shakespearean thing where
where I'm gonna sneak up on youat night and strangle you in
your sleep because I'm jealous,yeah, uh, well, I'll keep one
eye open regardless.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
But, um, yeah, so at its peak, uh, the series it had,
I think because it went viral,um, a couple of the videos and
then a few influencers uh madelike explainer videos that got
really really even more viralthan the videos, paradoxically.
And so as a result, and sincethen for for context, it's kind
(09:57):
of tampered off and in terms ofpopularity it still has a solid
audience, but it's not like atits peak.
It was like videos were gettinglike four million plays and
whatnot.
That's crazy.
Yeah, no, it was veryinteresting and it was very fun
being caught up in that.
I think that's something thatmore kids in my generation are
(10:18):
experiencing.
Is these like I mean, it's notunique to the internet, but it's
amplified by the internet thewhole like was it 15 Minutes of
Fame?
Is that what it's?
It's not unique to the internet, but it's amplified by the
internet.
The whole like uh, was it 15minutes of fame?
Is that what it's called?
yeah, I guess, these days it'smore like 15 seconds because our
attention span is so muchshorter yeah, no, I mean, it is
in some ways and in other ways,like, especially with series
(10:40):
like this, if you garnercommunity, that can last years
and years.
Especially it's analog horror,adjacent content, which is its
own whole circle online, and alot of them skew younger, so
there's a lot of it's been likefive years.
A lot of them have graduatedhigh school while being fans of
(11:04):
this series and so it's kind ofimprinted into them and that's
something that and, of course,that then my, my music, thusly,
is imprinted into them I lovethat.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Like to them you're this old guy.
Yeah, no, I I've had to thinkabout that more and more as as
time has gone on.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I've had to think about that more and more as time
has gone on the moment, becauseI watch YouTubers and listen to
musicians my whole childhoodand so the moment that they
started to be younger than methat was before I graduated I
remember Tommy In it I ShowSpeed.
These were like huge YouTubersand they were like a year below
(11:46):
me and I was like what's going?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
on.
This can't be happening.
You just wait.
Oh, it's gonna keep happening.
Mocking you right now, for, oh,there's some people a couple
years younger than.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Oh, get out of here, dude.
No, don't worry, I get.
It was this why everyone wasmad at justin bieber back in the
day.
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I don't know Because he was young and they were like
cringe Listen.
When Justin Bieber started, Iwas already old.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Exactly that's what I mean.
And then I'm sure there wassome envy involved with that.
I was like, well, this kid isgetting all famous at 13.
I could have done that, it'snot special.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I could not have done that, so anyway.
So people can go on like applemusic and spotify and all these
different places, and they lookup ajcw which amanda always gets
wrong, by the way, listenersthat amanda always gets and it's
just his initials, it's so,there's that.
But just go find ajcw, listento his music and just enjoy,
(12:46):
like how talented and amazing itis.
It blows me away, especiallywhen you sit down and you do
proper songs instead of just theatmospheric noise stuff, which
I recognize is good.
It's just my thing.
Like I said, I'm old and so Ilike songs that sound like songs
(13:06):
.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, that's not offensive toyou, is it?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Because it's not at all.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Coming out of my mouth.
It sounds offensive.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
No well, I don't listen to ambience.
You know I do when I'm doinghomework, but if I want to
listen to music, I'm not goingto the kind of stuff I make.
You know, there you go.
I mean, I am, but not you, notthe ambient stuff.
I definitely gravitate towardsstuff with a structure, with a
beat that's danceable, with goodlyrics, just like anyone else.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
But anyway, that's not why you're on.
You're on to let the folks knowwhat kind of a father that I
was and what kind of a fatherthat I am, and I want to give
the opportunity to tell theaudience whatever you want to
tell them about me, like, forexample, the worst thing I've
ever done as a dad to you.
I'm really opening myself uphere, okay Well uh, this is a
(13:57):
safe space, Don't worry.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Um, I think I'll tell the the one that gets brought
up a lot- Uh, the one that Ifeel really guilty about, yeah.
Okay, go ahead.
Yeah, that one.
So there were these twig thingslike this fake plant or real
dead plant, something alongthose lines, yes, and it was
(14:20):
found outside while Daniel and Iwere playing indoors.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
They were found in a container outside, all crapped
up.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah, and I found them yes, and you were very much
displeased to find them in thatstate outside.
And you know, I want to saylogically assumed that one of us
had done that, and you decidedto get to the bottom of it,
whether we liked it or not.
And so we, you put us in timeout in the living room.
(14:56):
Uh, I remember this part well,both of our backs were against
the wall and we were like fourfeet away from each other, like
I don't even know, like you hadlined us up outside in a prison
yard or something like that.
And um, and you were like no,nothing's gonna happen until one
of you confesses.
And oh, this is so bad and Iknew I didn't do it.
(15:22):
So I was like you better confess, daniel.
Like I don't want to be hereall day.
I, I got puzzles to solve, Igot coloring books big stack
coloring books to fill in.
Very busy today.
You can't be holding me up likethis.
And Dale just looked at me likewhat is your angle?
Why aren't you just admittingit?
(15:43):
Like what's going on?
And so we were furious witheach other.
You had successfully pit usagainst each other yes, we.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Well, it's the, it's the, the prison yard thing.
It's like that's what you do.
Is you, you pit?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
you get in the fight.
No, you just.
I haven't looked into prisonsin a while.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I don't know if that's legal anymore and and
what did I tell you that?
What did I tell you?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
well, essentially nothing was happening and right
neither of us were admitting tothe crime we have we obviously
one of us had committed I knewthat one of you did it, and so
our dad had a, a brilliantgambit, which was lying he he
claimed that there was asecurity camera outside that we
(16:31):
had no knowledge of, and andthat he knew.
He already knew.
Of course he already knew.
Classic negotiating I alreadyknow you're guilty.
Just admit it, bud, right, justadmit it, so which?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
by the way, it's such a dumb thing like, like I
really must have thought thatyou were stupid, like both of
you were just dumb as rocks Forme to say I know which one of
you did it, just admit it.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Well, the fascinating thing about what you just said
is that we were dumb as rocksbecause we were like seven and
eight, right, oh God.
So we were, and it worked on us.
As a result, I was fullyconvinced that there was a
security camera outside.
Maybe there was a shred ofdoubt, but largely I just still
thought it was Daniel, and so Iwas like all right, the jig's up
(17:20):
, daniel, there's the camerasLike, come on, you got to admit
now.
And, shocker, we didn't admit.
And shocker, we didn't admit.
Neither of us decided tofalsely claim that it was us.
And this went on for a while.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I was like three seconds away from reenacting the
Michael.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Jackson.
Bad video, you know, with theyard fight there.
Go ahead.
I'm sorry I don't know that one, but definitely show that to me
after.
I'm sure I'll save my laughterfor that.
I'm sure it was a great bit.
I'm familiar with the song, ifthat helps.
So we come to find out what.
We come to find out that, well,our mom gets home and sees the
prison yard situation and it's alittle bit confused, wants to
(18:11):
know like who, what we broke,what we, what on earth could we
have done wrong?
And uh, our dad explained toher the, the crime we had
committed, which was moving the,the dead plant, outdoors and
messing them up, and messingthem up, and messing them up.
Admittedly, yes and um, as itturns out, it was her they were.
(18:38):
She didn't want him anymore, soshe put him outside, which to
be, to be fair, that doesn'treally make sense either, but
you know I still feel so guiltyabout that.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I just want you to know that I still like I feel
like I need to apologize to youright now again, because that
was just really, really badparenting on my part.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
No, it wasn't great, and I say this a lot whenever
you bring this up and wheneveryou mentioned, you feel bad
about it.
Uh, I've never felt so muchunity with Daniel in that moment
.
Great when it turned out thatthe whole thing was BS.
It was really.
It was class consciousness.
You know the kid kid unity.
(19:26):
We were right all along and itwas actually our dad's fault,
and that's the thing.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
The thing about dads is that they don't make mistakes
, generally speaking well, Idisabused you of that really
early, which actually, then, isa favor that I did for you.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Well, this is what I was going to say well, two
things.
First of all, it reallyhumanized you, yes, which you
know we didn't appreciate.
I didn't fully get toappreciate that until I was an
adult, because I was.
When I was a kid, I was justhype.
I was like no way, I was right.
Yes, we rarely ever win youagain.
You rarely win against your dadon things.
Typically they're right nomatter what.
(20:02):
But in this instance, we wereobjectively in the right and
that felt excellent.
So that's why it really wasn'ttraumatizing at all, it was
invigorating.
But the other thing that thisstory does especially
considering we framed it as theworst thing you've ever done it
(20:22):
really wasn't that bad.
So I think that goes to show alot about how you were as a dad,
that this was one of yourbiggest mistakes.
I think this would be prettylow on the list.
For a lot of the dads that Ihear about from, like my friends
and my peers and just randompeople online or on TV talking
(20:44):
about their parents, it'susually a lot worse than that on
TV talking about their parents.
It's usually a lot worse thanthat.
A lot of you never punished usphysically or anything like that
.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I was close, though I was really close that day.
We almost got there.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Okay, well, I'm glad we didn't cross that barrier.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Well, anyway, let me just say this we have little
Winthrop now and I've learnedall of the lessons that I need
to learn from you and daniel sothat I don't make those mistakes
with winthrop.
And I still do make mistakeswith winthrop.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
So there you go well, yeah, mistakes, uh, are
inevitable.
I think if, if you are raisedwith parents who are literally
perfect which has never happened, but theoretically speaking, I
don't know I think you'd get acomplex as an adult.
You'd get thrown into the worldand people start acting
(21:41):
irrationally and you're like huh, I thought everyone was perfect
.
I didn't know people mademistakes, yeah, well, you're
safe from that.
Thank goodness.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
What time is it?
It's time who?
What time is it?
Game time?
All right, that music is by youand that music tells us that it
is game time.
And, andrew, you are going toplay the flashbacks quiz, which
is something that we do oftenhere on the old stinking show,
(22:32):
and basically what it is is yougot to tell me when something
happens in history.
So I'm going to give you anevent that's going to be your
anchoring event and then I'mgoing to give you events after
that and you have to figure outwhere they fit on a timeline.
Now to make it harder, when Iplay this game, I try to guess
close to whatever date it wasyeah, you don't have to do bonus
points yeah, but you don't getbonus points.
(22:55):
All you have to do is say it'sbefore this one and after that
one okay, so.
I'm gonna give you youranchoring event right.
This you get this one for free.
Now, if you want to guess whenthis happened, feel free.
Okay, okay, sure, okay.
Your anchoring event is GeorgeEastman wants an easier way to
take vacation photos, so heinvents the first Kodak camera.
(23:16):
When do you think that happened?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
1900s, let's say, let's say like the first Kodak
camera, yeah, 60s.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
All right, it is 1888 .
Wow.
So on your little paper there inthe middle of the paper, in the
middle of the paper write 1888and then Kodak camera.
That'll just help you keeptrack of where things go.
All right, so now this one.
You're gonna have to tell me isit before or after the kodak
camera ready?
Yeah, okay.
The actress faye emerson debutsas one of the first late night
(23:57):
talk show tv hosts.
She takes the radical approachof combining comedy with
politics.
Is that before or after theKodak camera?
After, okay, so after iscorrect.
Do you want to just guess adate?
50s 1949.
(24:21):
Okay, so right.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Very good.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
No, you probably want to write it on the other side
of that timeline.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
This is newer, this is older.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Okay, you're doing it opposite.
Very good, all right.
So 1949, first late-night TVtalk show host.
Next one Sumerians.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Over here yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Create one of the first board games where players
race around a track.
The rules, roll the dice.
Squeeze me the rules.
The thing just disappeared.
It disappeared, yes, the rulesare now.
I want to know this, thoughRoll some dice and move
(25:02):
something.
So when do you think that?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
happened?
That would.
My guess is 6,000 BC.
It is 2,500 BCE.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Do you think that happened?
Uh, that would.
My guess is 6 000 bc.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
It is uh 2500 bce 20, so like 250.
Okay, all right, no, not 250,2500 so 2500.
Yeah, I, I talk weird, but Iknow that yeah all right.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
So so far you're three for three.
Of course you've gotten veryeasy ones.
So let's, let's see what we cando here.
You're probably going to wantto leave a little bit more room
between 1888 and 2500 bc.
Now you've done it all right.
Here we go too late.
France declares war on britain.
Britain moves troops from itsus colonies to defend the
territory it cares about evenmore the Caribbean.
(25:46):
When did that happen?
Speaker 2 (25:49):
The Caribbean, that would be in the 1700s.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
All right, so you want to put that in between
Kodak camera and the Sumerians.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yes, and it's probably actually, if not early
1700s, 1600s.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
All right, well, you did get the placement correct,
but it's 1778.
Okay all right.
So you were more correct inyour first guess.
So 1778, British moves troopsto the Caribbean.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I'll just get rid of Sumer if I need to.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Okay, if that becomes problematic, next one A
musician writes a song about hisfriends.
Midnight plane to Houston.
The lyrics evolve and becomeGladys Knight's Midnight Train
to Georgia.
When do you think GladysKnight's song Midnight Train to
Georgia was written?
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Well, they had trains .
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Yes, so probably not Sumeria.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yeah, almost definitely.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Or Sumer.
I think Not Sumeria, I thinkit's Sumer, doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Let's see, I'm going to say like after TV host.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
All right, so after 1949,.
You want to guess a date?
Nope.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Not this time.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
It is 1973.
Okay, so you did get thatcorrect.
And in the 70s they did havetrains.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Indeed, they did.
All right, you ready for the?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
next one yeah, to keep invaders out competing
chinese states built barriersthat later became the great wall
.
That helps them focus on theirreal enemies one another.
I'm glad that they united tomake the wall, and then they
could just continue to beat thecrap out of each other that
that's the story of China is thevarious warring states periods.
(27:39):
Okay, very good, of which thereare many, so where does that
event go, do you think?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Well, that's the thing is, there were many
warring states periods and Idon't know which one they built
the wall in.
So if I had to guess, you do.
I think it happened before theBritish troops and after Sumer.
Okay, I think it's probably BC.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I'm going to put Sumer over here.
It's happening, all right.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
So the real answer is 400 BCE.
Lovely.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Very good.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Lovely.
So you have gotten six out ofsix so far.
You're doing great.
This is where I start to screwup, though, near the last couple
.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
There's a lot of dots now.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
All right, here we go .
The Mona Lisa is stolen.
It isn't very popular, so noone actually notices until the
next day.
The theft is what makes thepainting famous.
Did not know that.
When do you think that happened?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Well, this was during the Renaissance, okay, and it
wasn't famous yet.
Gosh interesting, but it wouldbe famous.
It would be famous like 100years after I would think Okay,
so, oh, it's either before orafter the British troops.
That's rough, I'm going to saybefore.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Before the British.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Before 1778.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I think you might be safe.
No incorrect, ah, 1911.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Wow, they were sleeping on the Mona Lisa.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I know it.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
All right, so let's see 19, what that was, 1911.
All right, here we go as Lewisand Clark trek through the Nope,
as Lewis and Clark Nope, asLewis and Clark trek to the
Pacific.
A canoe nearly capsizes.
The team's papers and tools aresaved by its quick-thinking
(29:36):
interpreter, sacagawea.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Well, so that would be after the revolution.
So I'm going to say before 1888, after 1778.
All right, let's see.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Correct 1805.
You ready for your last one?
Last one, let's see Correct1805.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
You ready for your last one, Last one?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
wow, okay, you're six for seven right now.
You've only gotten one wrong.
All right, here we go.
President Millard Fillmoresends US gunboats to Japan,
forcing it to open up for trade.
This helps to later end therule of shoguns and samurai.
This is a hard one, I think itis.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Did you name the president?
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Millard Fillmore Sounds like a brand of
refrigerator.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
That's President Fillmore.
Yes, that's a president.
Are you sure that's a president?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Dude, millard Fillmore, I got it right here.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I've never heard of a president, I know the
presidents and I Dude MillardFillmore.
I got it right here.
I've never heard of a president.
I know the presidents and I'venever heard of a Fillmore.
I'm crazy.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yes, you are.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I must have forgotten that one.
Now, is that after the Kodakcamera is the question, because
I think it was definitely beforethe Mona Lisa was stolen since
the United States?
Yeah, I'm going to say afterkodak before, no, no, no, no.
Before kodak camera after 1805.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
okay, so all right, that's a thin window there.
Let's see and correct 1852.
Very, very good, so you got gotseven out of eight events
correct, so that's a score of 24out of 28.
Don't ask me how they computethat, but that's what happens
(31:24):
and the oh hang on now.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Stop it.
How is seven out of eight equalto 24 out of 28?
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Dude.
This is how the New York Timesdoes things.
I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Maybe the scores are weighted differently.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Probably so.
Anyway, there you go.
That was our flashbacks quiz.
How did you all do out there?
Did you do better than Andrew?
Hey, no one likes to be toldwhat to do, and now is the time
in the program where we tell youwhat to do.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Andrew, what should we do?
Well, about a year ago Iwatched a show called Severance
and it was really cool, so watchthat.
It was a good show.
There's an album I justlistened to called Sound from
the Window by Evan Wright, andthat was a really good album, so
I recommend listening to that.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
What's the?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
style?
I don't know.
It's like Electronic, it's likefolky kind of Maybe, but it's
definitely like high productionkind of stuff.
There's a few electronicelements in there, but just
(32:40):
really intricate sounds.
It's very relaxing, kind ofslow, like kind of whispery sort
of vocals.
I'm using a lot of descriptorsbecause again, I really don't
know what the primaries would be.
But yeah, it was, it's good, solisten to it all right.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Well, very good, thank you, andrew, appreciate it
you're welcome all right,andrew.
That's all there is there is nomore.
What did you think of that mess?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
It was fun.
You know, I think I'm funniersomehow when I'm talking to the
microphone.
Oh okay, I don't know why and Idon't think I was that funny,
but I don't know, it's different.
Maybe I should be a streamerand live in my room all day
don't you kind of do that anyway?
Speaker 1 (33:40):
no, you don't.
You have a job, that's so rudenow?
Speaker 2 (33:43):
yes, a little bit, but people aren't watching me,
so that's different.
It's one big difference.
Um no, I'm not gonna do that.
I'm to keep doing what I'vebeen doing.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
All right, well, very good, well, this show could not
be accomplished without thecontributions from the following
people We'd like to thank Matt,who played John.
We'd like to thank Leo, whotook the role of Swen.
We'd like to thank Josh Scar,who today played the role of
Andrew Antonio.
(34:15):
Of course, played the role ofAndrew Antonio.
Of course, played the role ofHarold.
Danny Buckets played the roleof Edward Chicken.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Tom.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Chicken Tom was Leonard.
Monique from Germany played therole of Thomas Refined Gay.
Jeff was Carl, mark and Rachelthey both played the role of the
donkey, and Gavin and Danplayed themselves.
Of course, we'd also like tothank Joey.
Joey, and hopefully you willreturn to us next week when
(34:45):
Amanda will be with us.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yeah, and I just want to say my favorite thing about
I forgot his name Chicken John,chicken Tom, chicken Tom.
My favorite thing about him Iknow him well and his first name
is Chicken John, chicken Tom,chicken Tom.
My favorite thing about him Iknow him well and his first name
is Chicken on his birthcertificate.
And if we want to talk aboutbad fathers, oh, no, no, no, no,
no, no.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Chicken Tom is a friend of mine and he's a good
father, so stop right there.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Oh, okay, I thought it was a bit.
No it's not a bit, we're goingto delete that.
I thought that was a list ofmade up names to be funny.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Those are real people names.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Is his first name really Chicken.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
It is Chicken.
Charles Tom is his full name.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Are you serious?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Why is his name Chicken?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I'm okay with it, I'm just like All right, well,
andrew and I are going to figurethis one out.
We'll talk to you next week,thank you.
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