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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Familiar Wilson's
Media Relationships are the
story.
You are made of meat, my friend, all the way down.
The following podcast useswords like and and also.
If you're not into any of thatshit, then now's your chance.
Three, two, one run.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I'm super familiar
with the Wilsons.
Get it Welcome to SuperFamiliar with the Wilsons.
I'm Amanda.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
And I'm Josh and
we're the podcast about Marriage
2.0 with all of the side quests.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Many, many side
quests we have.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yes, and one of our
little side quests is called
Winthrop.
He's our eight-year-old.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
He's not a little
side quest.
He was an unexpected side quest, but he takes a lot of mental
energy.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Changed the whole
campaign, rolled a nat 20 and
here he is.
I picked him up from school theother day, as I do almost every
day, and he says Dad, I want toteach third grade or be a
YouTuber.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Okay, those are very
different goals, but okay.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I want to be a
teacher because you get free
snacks and it's fun, but theydon't make much money.
True story, Winthrop.
But I thought it wasinteresting that he said he
wanted to be a third gradeteacher.
He's in second grade.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I don't know what
he's expecting, but I have a
feeling he's going to bedisappointed.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
But it's just
interesting how it's like human
nature to be like well, I don'twanna be anything in second
grade.
I don't wanna be a second gradeteacher, because I know what
that looks like.
So me, the peak is a thirdgrade teacher.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I, as a lifelong
teacher, would encourage him to
maybe go toward YouTubing.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
You think there's
more money in YouTubing?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I just think there's
maybe less stress in YouTubing.
I don't know, can you go tocollege to be a YouTuber?
Is this a degree?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
path?
I don't think so.
I think well, actually, you saythat I'll bet you in a couple
of years, if it's not a degreepath, it will be.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, you know what I
Can you imagine?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
You cannot be a
YouTuber now without a college
degree and you need to send inyour resume and to the YouTube
people and then they hire you.
And now that's now ruined andcorporatized.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I would actually
prefer that, because some people
have a YouTube channel and lotsand lots of followers that I
wish wouldn't be talking.
I didn't know.
I learned something yesterday.
He was watching a video of someguy who he only watches kids
YouTube.
We don't turn him loose onregular YouTube, but there's
still some stuff on kids YouTube.
I'm like I don't get it.
So, but there's still somestuff on kids youtube I'm like I
don't get it.
So he was watching a videoyesterday and this guy buys all
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of these snacks and mixes themtogether to make one snack we
did that.
We used to do that, I know butwhat he was doing was buying
content creator snacks.
So you know like they're.
All these different contentcreators have their own like
food marketed like mr beast hascandy or whatever.
The guy went into walmart andasked to find one of the
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youtubers candies and the salesassociate was like oh no, we
have a whole youtube section.
So there's just a youtubesection in walmart for all of
the foods created by youtubers.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
So it is becoming
very corporatized yeah, which
means it's already had its deathand now we're feasting upon its
rotten flesh yeah, so until thenext thing, like I wonder what
the next thing is going to belike.
The next social media or thenext video app is just going to
be.
We shoot it straight into yourbrain, right?
That's the only thing left, orlike giant holograms in the sky.
What's left?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
maybe I don't know.
We were at whole foodsyesterday and because whole
foods is now has been, uh,absorbed by amazon, everything
is amazoned.
At the checkout there is aplace where you can scan your
palm.
So I don't know what amazon hasdone, but it picks up like your
.
I don't know.
It's the mark of the beast.
666.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I don't know,
definitely playing into, like
the old christian stereotypeshere.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Well, I remember
thinking that we were all going
to get tattooed on our wrist andthat's how we were all going to
be tracked.
So he's sitting there with hispalm, trying to pay with his
palm, like no bud.
It's not just anybody's palm.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Like it's not just
anybody's palm.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
You don't have enough
credit on your palm you have to
register your palm palm.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yesterday also was
joke day at school and so he was
researching a joke to take inand it's all second grade jokes.
And he was telling me one as wewere driving and he said mom,
somebody said, is my wallet anonion?
Because every time I look at itI cry and goes.
I don't know what that means,because wallets aren't a thing.
Right like he doesn't.
Really, you have one, but doeshe see you?
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Money, like you don't look atit and not have money, and cry
Like we don't really have cashanymore.
I mean I have 40 British poundsin my wallet, buying you nothing
in the YouTuber section atWalmart.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
No, wallets are still
.
They still sell wallets on endcaps at, like Marshalls and
stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I understand that but
I'm telling you that his
experience with a wallet is wehad to explain to him what it
meant, because then he said itto Muffy and she said that's
real Winthrop.
I feel that.
But she doesn't have a wallet,she just has an app on her phone
that's connected to her bankaccount.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I think, the next app
, or useful video app.
I got this teacup here.
What if, like, I could have ascreen on my teacup?
What if there was a screen onthe bottom, and so I could be
drinking my tea and then alsowatching a video?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I mean, that's
basically what we do at the gas
pump anyway.
Like this technology exists outin the world?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Oh, I freaking hate
that man.
Is that widespread?
I would guess that it isbecause these are national
chains.
But you drive up to the gaspump and you don't want to be
there.
It's already unpleasant andthen the gas pump basically
starts to yell at you to buythings, and it's so loud.
And it's weird because to me,the soundtrack of gas pumps used
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to be Harry Styles and she was.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
As it was, as it was,
yeah, whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
But now it's just
people yelling at me, like about
what I don't even know.
I'm not there to.
That's why I have my phone atthe pump, so that I can amuse
myself and look at a screen.
I don't want to be staring atthe gas pump.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
If you were on your
phone.
It isn't supposed to make likethe gas tank explode or
something.
Wasn't that what we were alltold?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, well, clearly
that is some BS.
You know, I'm waiting for theday and this has probably
already happened somewhere whereI go into the bathroom stall, I
close the door and there's acommercial showing on the
backside of the door.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I'm sure that's a
thing and I'm trapped.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
I have no choice.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I'm sure that's a
thing.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
What if you go into
the bathroom?
You sit on the thing, on thethrone, on the whatever and all
of a sudden it's called a toilet.
On the toilet, thank you, andyou buckled in.
It buckles you in and you haveto watch the commercial before
you're allowed to leave.
What if it's a three minutecommercial?
You have to do all yourbusiness within that stretch of
time, no matter what, and thenthey just eject you out.
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I don't like this kind ofanxiety inducing this is the
world that we're rushing towards, as everything is on fire.
And corporations take over moreand more and commercials are
going to be everywhere.
You're going to be walkingalong.
You're going to look down atthe back of someone's shoes.
Two tiny little screens, youknow, advertising Best Buy.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I mean we're already
advertising.
We are all walkingadvertisements when we wear any
kind of brand.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yes, but people are
going to rent out now the back
of their head, right?
So I don't have to see thecommercial playing on the back
of my head, but I get moneybecause everywhere I go I got
this hat and on the back of myhead there's a gap or old navy
commercial welcome to our comedypodcast no, this is all great.
I love it.
So everything is content.
Speaking of everything iscontent.
We had our first realperimenopause argument yesterday
(07:24):
like legit question, therelationship type of
perimenopausal argument.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Is this content?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Well, it is because I
just want to warn everyone out
there.
It's coming for you.
If you have a significant otherwho's going through
perimenopause, it's coming foryou and just prepare yourself
for it.
My favorite quote from youyesterday was I'm sorry that I'm
putting you through hell.
You remember what my responsewas we're going through it
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together or something.
No, I said no, you're goingthrough hell and you're taking
me with you.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
That's right.
I thought it was gonna be don'tyell at me in response, Like
what I need you to do is notyell at me while I'm yelling at
you.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yes, so that was the
crux of this argument.
You were raising your voice atme on the phone.
We don't need to get into theparticulars of the argument,
because it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Well, I was yelling
because it was on my Bluetooth
and I didn't think you couldhear me.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Lies and damned lies.
So you were yelling at me onthe phone and I am not a yeller.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
You're not, You're
really really not.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I am You're not, but
I have had a particularly
interesting two weeks duringduring my date times these last
Two weeks.
I was gonna say a few days,because it's just, I don't even
know Time doesn't mean anythinganymore, so I finally just I
yelled back at you.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And then that's it
did not go over well that
started an argument and I saidhow am I supposed to handle it
when I'm upset?
And you said you can't yellback at me.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I said yelling back
at me is not helpful.
I didn't tell you not to yellback at me, I just said it
wasn't helpful.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I'm quite certain
that you were pretty adamant
that I am not to yell back atyou.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Well, other than that
, I just hung up, but I did say
goodbye, so it couldn't beconsidered hanging up on you.
I just said I'm getting off thephone, bye.
So I said goodbye.
So it wasn't just hanging up.
I just didn't want to saythings that we were going to
regret after we had already saidit.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
You mean more things
well, we did iron it out and we
established that sometimes Imight raise my voice in response
to you raising your voice, andwe just have to deal with it
somehow.
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
It's not fun it's
more not fun for me.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
What?
Here we go, here we go, god,here we go, can we?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
skip to the part
where we go to the tavern with
the ovaries and Jeff Jeff saidhe'd come to the tavern with me
and my ovaries.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yes, that's right.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Perimenopause and
menopause is when your ovaries
pack up and go to a tavern andthe next town over or something.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yeah, not even this
one, or leaving this.
Your mom went through badmenopause too, right?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
well, she went
through it early, like in her
early 40s and I'm gonna be 50 ina couple weeks, so it's just
now hitting me.
But I think though, because Ihad winthrop when I was 41, I
think I remember the doctorstelling me that that pushed it.
So, yeah, she went through itearly.
But then it I mean I rememberher like my mom was a pretty
soft spoken person slamming thecabinet doors so hard that, like
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the cabinet, the counters wereshaking and I took my nephew
outside and we just wanderedaround for like the rest of the
day because it was intense restof the day because it was
intense.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Yeah, no, it's
nothing that I would wish on my
worst enemy, and you know wejoke and I joke, but I know that
I have to be more sensitive andI promise I will be.
So no yelling for me.
That was my one yell for theyear or whatever.
I mean, it's pretty much beenthat long anyway.
But let's do skip on to happiersubjects.
Mother's Day it is Mother's Dayand you are one of those.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I am a mother, you
are a mother.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
So you know all about
bad advice from moms.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Why?
Because I give it, because Ireceived it.
Why do I specifically knowabout this?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
First of, all, you
also are a teacher and I'm
certain as a teacher you'veheard really bad advice given by
moms and even like in yourlittle mom's friends groups
you've had, I'm certain you'veheard things that have been
ridiculous.
I'm certain that even like inthe history of your mom giving
you advice, there have been someclunkers, some things that like
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, oh well, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
No, my mom just used
to tell me that the Holy Spirit
knew everything that I did andtold her about it.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
So I was just
terrified all the time.
Holy Spirit really is kind ofSanta right.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Well, I'm going to
give you a little quiz here.
This is not game time, this isa Mother's Day.
Things here.
Bad advice from TV moms of thequiz.
First one, which TV mom toldher son everyone who isn't us is
an enemy.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Oh God.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Was it Marie Barone
from Everybody Loves Raymond?
Was it Circe Lannister fromGame of Thrones?
Or was it Lucille Bluth fromArrested Development?
Do you know all thosecharacters?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I never have watched
any of those shows, but I'm
aware of them, so I'm going withC.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
You think it's
Lucille Bluth from Arrested
Development that says everyonewho isn't us is an enemy?
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yes, I do.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Wrong Circe Lannister
from Game of Thrones.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
That seemed way too
obvious.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Oh yeah.
So she's the ruthless queenmother of Westeros who raised
her children to view love aspower enemies, raised her
children to view love as powerenemies as everyone and poison
as parenting.
If they were parenting Yelpreviews, she'd have one star and
it would explode.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Who warned her?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
child gossip.
Is the devil's telephone?
Best just to hang up?
Probably my mother Was it TammyTaylor from Friday Night Lights
, moira Rose from Schitt's Creekor Lois from Malcolm in the
Middle.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
It was definitely not
Moira, because Moira enjoys
from Schitt's Creek or Lois fromMalcolm in the Middle.
It was definitely not Moira,because Moira enjoys a good
gossip A.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
It is Moira Rose from
Schitt's.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Creek.
Yes, no, she enjoys herself agossip.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yes, but she also
enjoys perhaps giving contrary
advice to what she reallybelieves she was a really bad
advice giver.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
That is true.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
And really really
questionable clothing choices as
well.
Was your mom a gossip at all orno?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
No, no, no.
Unless it was a prayer request.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
That's right.
Prayer requests, as gossip isdefinitely a thing I was raised
with.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
You know what the
worst is?
The unspoken request.
That's like the vague bookingpeople do on Facebook now or
social media where they're likeI'm having a really rough time,
think of me, but they don't tellyou what it is.
I also don't like it when youhear that people died from a
short illness.
I need more information.
What was the short illness?
Was it a stroke?
Was it COVID?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Was it like was it
being caught in the bed with
someone else, right?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
What was the short
illness that happened?
Yeah, no, the unspoken prayerrequest used to drive me nuts.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Those of you who
weren't raised in the church,
there would be a time where theywould take prayer requests, and
so we're going to have a timeof out loud praying and we want
to know what it is you wouldlike for us to pray for, or the
dude in the front of the thingto pray for, and people raise
their hands, be like you know,my dog Sparky lost his tail, or
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you know whatever, and thensomeone raised their hand and
says I have an unspoken request.
Okay then what are you doing?
Why are you saying it?
What's the point?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Well, because the
whole thing was like the Lord
knows your request, so we justhave to.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Well then, why say if
it's unspoken, you just spoke
it.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Dude, I'm telling you
, it's just because they want
attention, of course it is Allright.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Next one here who
declared I am the only authority
in this house till I die, thenyou can do whatever you want.
Was it Kitty Foreman from that?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
70s show Lois from
Malcolm in the Middle or Rebecca
Pearson from this Is Us.
No, it is Malcolm in the Middle.
Or Rebecca Pearson from this IsUs.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
No, it is Malcolm in
the Middle that is correct.
I think that's the only oneyou've gotten right.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Well it's because I
only watched the two shows on
either side.
I watched this Is Us, I watchedthat 70s show and knew it
wasn't those two.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
So process of
elimination she was an
interesting parent because shewas definitely the one yell
first and ask questions later.
Nice Kind of like my dad.
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Awesome.
Maybe that's why you don't likeit when I yell.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Maybe it is that's
right.
As long as you don't go bald,we're okay though.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I don't yell, I raise
my voice so you can hear me.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Okay.
Who said to her daughterthere's no such thing as too
much coffee?
Me, was it Lorelei Gilmore fromthe Gilmore Girls, deborah
Barone from Everybody LovesRaymond, or Carla Tortelli from
Cheers?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
no, it was.
It's definitely Gilmore Girlsthat is correct.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
So my question to you
is what bad habit do you think
that your children are gonnapick up from you?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
well, maybe coffee,
because the um the 18 year old
does not like coffee.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
She drinks green tea,
like you, but I didn't start
drinking coffee until I wasmid-20s oh, I started drinking
it like around 14 I mean Istarted drinking it early with
my mom do you think that's whyyou're so short?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
maybe also maybe just
genetics, because my family is
short.
But uh, winthrop has decided hewants to try coffee and he's
had it a couple times with no,because I don't drink it sweet.
I drink it with cream but nosweetener, and he likes it.
So I mean we've got aneight-year-old who's ready to be
hopped up on caffeine.
So that's probably a bad habitthat they will get from me.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
That and the yelling.
Okay, who lives by thisphilosophy?
Guilt works better thandiscipline.
Discipline.
Was it Betty Draper from MadMen, Livia Soprano from the
Sopranos or Lucille Bluth fromArrested Development?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Also my mom, but in
the form of Christian guilt.
I'm gonna go with the Sopranos.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
That is correct.
The guilt that you were given,was it like passive, aggressive,
or was it just straight?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
No, it was more
passive, aggressive, because it
was like, if I didn't want toget up in the morning to go to
church, it was like, well, youknow, christ can walk up the
hill to Calvary for you, but youcan't get up to go to church.
That's the kind of guilt I wasgiven.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
It worked until it
didn't.
Yes, who said I have eight kids.
I raise them like veal.
I keep them in small spaces andfeed them good lord, I have no
idea.
Was it Peg Bundy from MarriedWith Children, carla Tortelli
from Cheers or Lois from Malcolmin the Middle?
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I'm gonna go with
Carla because I don't think the
other people had eight children.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
That is correct.
Eight children, though, can youimagine?
Double the amount we have,right?
But we haven't even ever hadthem.
Well, very rarely, for a smallamount of time, we had them all
in the house together.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, like right
after Winthrop was born and
right before Daniel went tocollege.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
And then it was still
only half of the week because
the boys were with their otherset of parents for half of the
week.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Yeah, yeah, I don't
know Ate a lot.
But we had a bigger house thenas well.
Yeah, All right.
Last one is if you don't stopcrying, I'll give you something
to cry about while I'm eatingthis casserole.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Okay, take away the
casserole 100%.
Was told that many, many times.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Was it Rebecca
Pearson from this Is Us, deborah
Barone from Everybody LovesRaymond, or a real mom somewhere
?
A real mom somewhere.
That is correct, my God.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
My mom would also say
cause I whined a lot.
Shocking.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Did you really?
Oh yeah, you don't strike me asa whiner, yeah, but have you
met our children?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, because they do
it Clearly.
They got it genetically.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Yeah, but you don't
whine.
I mean, when you get angry,it's not whining.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
It's very forceful
and yelling driving I'm sorry, I
was also driving.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Okay, are you ready
to let this one go, or do we
need to be here for a minute?
What would we do if we stayed?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
here for a minute.
You just keep reiterating thesame things you've already
reiterated, and I would say,okay, and then we'd move on.
So let's just pretend that wedid that.
What was it?
No, my mom would say likeeither cry or stop.
But if you're whining, I'llgive you something to cry about
oh, jesus, oh yeah, that'svicious.
I want you to cry, or I don'twant you to cry, or I'll make
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you cry and I used to get likeand my mom, I used to get
spanked, right, my dad onlyspanked me once.
My mom spanked me probablyevery other week and is that
what happened to your bottom?
yeah, that's yet swollen it'sswollen still shut up but the
problem was I really loved thosepaddle ball things that had the
rubber band attached.
I mean the rubber ball attachedwith the thing.
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But I knew when it broke shewas going to put it in a drawer
and that's what I was going toget spanked with.
And then so it was like it wasjust like I really want that to
play with, but I don't want itin my house because I will
eventually get spanked with it.
And then she also, like shewould say, go to your room, like
, and you knew what was going tohappen.
And then my nephew, who is sevenyears younger than I am and he
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lived with us for a long timebecause my brother, his dad,
died when he was three or fourfrom brain cancer.
See, I tell people what happenswhen people die.
Because I don't want you to tryto figure it out, I digress,
that's a side quest.
Anyway, my nephew lived with usfor a long time and when my mom
would tell me to go to my roombecause I was going to get
spanking, he would say can Iwatch?
And she'd let him and I was.
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Really that was worse.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
You have never told
me this, that was worse Would he
laugh.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Oh yeah, for the very
few times that he actually got
a spanking I was like sellingtickets, like out in the
neighborhood being like comewatch.
He's going to get a spanking,because it happened to me all
the time.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
So are you saying
that if you didn't have one of
those broken things in yourdrawer, you wouldn't get spanked
or she would grab the cast iron?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
and do it with it.
She'd just use her hand.
But I would hurt less I don'tknow, it was wood.
It felt like I don't know.
Anyway, I don't.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
We don't spank our
children so it's a thing because
I don't, because we don't haveany of those little paddle,
that's right but I also don'tsubscribe to the.
I need you to listen to mebecause you're afraid I'm going
to hurt you instead of I'm justteaching you how to be a better
human it's a problem because mything right now is I hate
threatening him with taking awayscreen time or doing this or
that, but it's the only thingthat works.
(20:58):
There is no intrinsicmotivation for him right now to
listen to me when I tell himit's time to do this or time to
take a bath.
I have to threaten to takesomething away, and I hate doing
that.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Well, I mean, I think
, as long as it's it's not a
threat, it's a consequence, thenthat's different.
Threatening means I'm tellingyou this is going to happen.
I'm not actually going tofollow through on it, right?
Speaker 1 (21:19):
oh, I always follow
through on it, and he loses his
ever-loving mind.
Well, one would think he wouldlearn.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
No, you're not
hitting him, you're not yelling
at him, you're not berating him.
You're parenting him.
You were setting consequencesfor actions and that's
absolutely fine with me.
He doesn't't like it, but it'sfine with me.
My mom also used to do like shewould count.
Did your dad ever count Like wecount with him, right?
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I count with him.
I count to three.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Right, so my mom
would count to three, but I knew
if she got to three I wasgetting a spanking.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Right.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
And she would tell me
like I vividly remember her
telling me one time to go cleanmy room and I said I'm not gonna
do it.
I was standing and I was maybehis age, maybe a little bit
younger.
I was standing in the hallwayand wasn't a very long hallway
to my room from the living roomand she said go clean your room.
And I said I'm not gonna do it.
And she said she said you knowI'm gonna go clean your room and
I was not doing it and she saidokay, I'm gonna count to three.
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If you are not cleaning yourroom you will get a spanking.
So she said one and I stoodthere and said I'm not going to
do it.
And she said two and I startedbacking up I'm not going to do
it.
And by the time she got to threeI was in my room cleaning my
room, saying I'm not going to doit.
So I wouldn't let go of thelike, refusing that I wasn't
going to do it but I wasactually cleaning my room.
(22:35):
My aunt called my mom one timeand my mom's name is Shirley and
she was like Shirley, she waslike I've been trying your
counting thing like you do withyour kids, and I'm on 25 and
he's not done it yet.
Anyway, are we done with thebad advice from mothers, or are
there more?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Trust me, if you give
any bad advice, I'm going to
write it down and I'll justbring it to our listeners.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Also listeners.
What's the worst parentingadvice that you've received from
either your mom or your dad, oryour grandparents or caregivers
?
Whoever took care of you inwhatever way they tried their
best to do?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yes, definitely.
Send that to us familiarwilsonsat gmailcom.
What time is it?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Daytime, Woo that
excellent song by our second son
, acjw nope, I do it wrong everytime.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Bad mothering advice
ajcw.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Sorry, andrew.
Uh means it's game time and wehaven't had a flashbacks in a
couple weeks, so we're gonnahave a flashbacks.
This is a thing that you canplay along with at home from the
New York Times.
Josh is going to try to anchorevents in history.
You ready?
Do you have your paper?
It's under here.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Oh okay, Can I?
Can you just do that thing,that where you pull it out from
under my computer withoutknocking my computer off of the
thing?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Very good you did it.
You ever?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
seen that clip from
jim carrey.
No, he was recording the grinchthat stole christmas and
there's a scene where he issupposed to pull the tablecloth
from from, uh, underneath allthe plates on this table in his
kitchen, and what's supposed tohappen is that he's supposed to
pull it off and all the stuff issupposed to come off.
And there's the joke that he'ssupposed to pull it off and all
the stuff is supposed to comeoff.
And there's the joke that he'sjust screwed it all up, but what
(24:38):
really happens is Jim Carreygoes to pull the tablecloth and
everything stays on the table.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
So he did it
perfectly.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
So he did it
perfectly, and instead of like
cutting and then reshooting it,he just then instantly ran back
and knocked everything off thetable, which makes for a much
better scene anyway.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
And did they keep it
in the movie?
Speaker 1 (24:54):
They did.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
That's so good.
That's so good.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
All right are you
ready for your first event?
Yes, go ahead, give it to me.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
All right.
So now, when you playflashbacks on your own, it's
gonna give you the date to setyour timeline, but we're gonna
give this to Josh and have himtry to guess the date first.
The US troops start to seizeand burn Canadian towns.
Britain's, britain's, not theBritain's, just one Britain,
Britain responds later bytorching the White House.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Oh my gosh, so this
was like a couple weeks ago,
right?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Mm-hmm, maybe
tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Who knows.
So let's say I freaking, haveno idea.
It would be after therevolutionary war, so 1790 1813
damn, I was gonna say in the1800s okay.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
But okay, there were
no points, so 1813 yeah, and
that one doesn't really countfor points anyway.
Okay, all right, here's yourreal one for points On the
oldest known papyrus, a ship'ssupervisor.
Nope, did I say it wrong again?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
You said papyrus and
then a ship's supervisor.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I know, so can we
start that over please?
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Oh, so I should edit
this.
Yeah, all right, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
You're not going to
edit this.
On the oldest known papyrus, aship supervisor keeps a diary of
his life.
On the nile day 25, haulingstones.
Day 26, hauling stones.
Day 27, hauling stones it'sjust like some people social
media feed now right um, let'ssee, so that's gonna be like bc,
(26:31):
that's gonna be like um 900 bc,okay so, for the sake of this
game, you just have to say ifit's before or after 1813.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
900 BC.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
yes, Okay, I'm going
to tap it and you get circa 2600
BCE.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Oh damn, 2600 BCE.
You mean board.
People existed back then aswell.
Yep Wowzers.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Alright, next one the
first US space station, Skylab,
is launched.
It has books, games and evendarts, but the most popular way
to relax is simply by watchingEarth.
I guess that's like we watchthe moon.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah, would you do
that?
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Would you want to go
into space?
No, I used to want to be anastronaut for like half a second
, and this was even afterchallenger happened but then I
decided I didn't want to do that.
Would you go to space?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
no, I think that I'm
too anxious, especially since
all these planes falling out ofthe sky.
Now I'm gonna get on a rocketship.
No, thank you, katie perry justdid it the whole time staring
at her damn phone, not lookingout at the, at whatever, at
space, sort of she's looking ather phone and taking a selfie.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Our world is doomed
well, and then she came back to
earth and kissed the ground andsaid like we must respect the
mother, but let's talk about theamount of environmental damage
that your five billion dollarspace flight just did exactly
that.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Well, now that she's
done, now she's in favor of no
one else doing it.
Okay, so 1973 would be sky laball so after 1813.
1973 is exactly it Bam.
How did you know?
I know everything.
You don't because clearly youdidn't know circa 2600 BC.
That's old news, boring Goahead.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Okay, venice's great
council begins choosing the doge
, its ruler.
The role is for life, so tolimit power, the council picks
old men who won't live long.
Parenthetical text it works uh,okay.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Well, that's clearly
gonna be between 2600 bce and
1813, so we're gonna put that atlike 1500 11 oh.
So, you're still correct,you're still getting all of
these right, but just not yourside quest game, which is I feel
like the last thing that we did, the last iteration of this
(28:43):
game we did it groupedeverything all together within a
period of like 50 years andmade it very difficult.
These are like thousands ofyears apart, so this is a lot
easier.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
All right.
The Texas pilot, bessie Colemanhelps popularize barnstorming
with her aerial stunts.
For one of them, she walks onher biplanes wings in midair.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Okay, so biplanes
would be circa 1936.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Did we watch Carl
Pilkington do this?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
We did, somebody did
this.
Pilkington got up on a wing1936?
.
Yep, is that right?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
1922.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Close 1922 biplanes
All right, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
To end their second
war over Kashmir.
India and Pakistan make theTashkent Declaration.
They vow to settle theirdisputes without violence.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Yeah, how's that
working out for them right now?
Not well, I have no idea.
This could be hundreds of yearsago Well, no, it couldn't,
because Pakistan hasn't beenaround that long.
But this could be last week orthis could be 10 years ago.
I'm going to say that it isprobably after 1973.
So we're going to say 1980.
(29:55):
It's probably later than that1966.
Damn wrong Frick.
Okay 1966, India, Pakistan.
Have you seen the video?
Did I show you the video of thechanging the guards at the
India-Pakistan border?
Yes, I feel like you did, whereit basically looks like a
dance-off.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yes, yes, yes, like
you did, where it basically
looks like a dance-off.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yes, yes, yes, you
did if you want to, I guess,
look back on a more peacefultime between the two nations,
where how they settled theirdisputes was dance-offs, then
you should look for that videohaving been jailed in siberia
for subversive activity,doostoevsky draws on his prison
experience to write the very,very long novel Crime and
(30:38):
Punishment.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I ad-libbed it very,
very long 1850.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
That's probably later
than that.
Oh damn it, I don't freakingknow, oh shit, 1900.
Okay, 1866.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Okay, 1866.
Okay.
So I still got that you said1850 to start with, didn't?
Speaker 1 (31:00):
you?
Yeah, I did and I blinked.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Two more, but you
still did get that one.
To escape the control of the USgovernment, Mormon settlers
found Salt Lake City.
They choose the area becauseit's a part of Mexico.
Didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Mormons, what is that
like 19?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I have no idea what's
his name Joseph Smith.
What's the guy's name?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, I think so.
Is that like 1950, maybe, maybe.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I don't know, friend,
yeah, we'll go with that 1950.
So you're saying betweenbarnstorming and Kashmir.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
That is correct 1847.
Damn.
All right, it's too wrong.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Too wrong.
All right, here's your last one, ready.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Named for a Roman god
, the priest Mercurius, becomes
the first pope to rename himself.
Upon taking office, he picks aless pagan name Pope John II.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
We're going to go
with 1600s.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Okay, so before the
Venice Council, and I mean after
the Venice Council and beforeblowing up the White House.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yes 533.
Damn it.
I didn't, it was a rough weekfor you.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
in the flashbacks you
got five out of eight correct.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I did not do.
Well, I don't know my historyof the Far and middle east.
I don't really know my italianhistory.
So there we go.
Now I know what to study okay.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
So here real quick,
is all of the reason why these
were in the new york timesflashback this week.
Chinese shipments to the unitedstates have plunged but have
spiked to southeast, as that wasthe Holling Stones Day.
Holling Stones Day, hollingStones Day To the world.
He's now Pope Leo, the what isthis 14th?
To his friends?
He's just Bob.
I would like to point out thatI saw something yesterday that
(32:58):
said just so you all know,you're about to honor a chosen
name for the next, however long,so you're able to do it, you
can get on board with it.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
So, yes, we have an
American Pope, and I'm sure that
everyone is all a flutter aboutthat one way or the other.
I was trying to figure out whatI think about that, because
initially I was like I liked thefact that we always had a Pope
that was not American, so thathe would feel free to criticize
any sort of policies that hethought were that he'd be a
(33:31):
separate entity, right?
Not that I'm Catholic oranything, but the Pope does
command respect over a largegroup of people and so in that
way, it's an authority, it's apower structure, and it's always
good to be separate, to be ableto criticize, you know,
(33:51):
authority or power, and and so Ithought that this kind of
muddies the waters a little bit.
But who knows?
But who knows?
He seems to be a rather um,liberal chap concerned with
social justice that's a good wayof saying it.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
All right, some other
things out of the new york
times.
Great salt lake is drying up.
Did you know that?
I?
Speaker 1 (34:09):
did not.
We'll have to ask our buddy,antonio, about that.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
And the Oscars will
add a new category for stunt
design in films.
That was the barnstorming foryou.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Oh, very good Okay.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
A proposed NASA
budget would to a mission to
Mars.
There's your space station one.
So if you do the flashbacks andthen when you're done, it'll
tell you how those events havean anchor in whatever current
events are happening right now.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Very good, thank you.
No one likes to be told what todo, and now is the time in the
program where we tell you whatto do.
Amanda, what should we do?
Speaker 2 (34:44):
I think you should
explore digital gardening.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Is this a term that
you have heard of?
Is it a game like no, no, no,no, all right, go ahead it's?
Speaker 2 (34:55):
I learned about it
this week.
It's a metaphorical approach tocurating and sharing personal
knowledge or ideas online, soit's supposed to be an anecdote
for doom scrolling.
So, instead of just sittingthere and scrolling and
scrolling and watching all ofthe reels and all the TikToks
and just getting further downthe rabbit hole, it's a way of
when you find, say, you comeacross a video on a sourdough
(35:18):
bread starter, right, instead ofjust saving that and moving on,
you drop it into your digitalgarden and there are apps that
do this and then you can kind ofweb things to it.
So when you see a recipesomewhere, you can put it in
your digital garden forsourdough starting, and it's a
way of curating stuff that makesit more of an active creation
than just passive informationtaking in.
(35:39):
It reminds me of what I thinkthe idea of Pinterest was in the
very beginning, where you'recollecting all of this stuff and
putting it on your boards.
To do something with Pinterestnow is just giant ads and it's
really, really frustrating.
So it's this idea of focusingon growth and your personal
voice.
The apps that you use, likeObsidian Roam Research I just
(36:00):
downloaded Craft to do itbecause it's a little more
aesthetically pleasing, but theyhave interactive designs.
I can't really collaborate onthem.
I could see how they would behelpful if you were
collaborating with people onlike project management, but
this is more.
Just when you're laying in bedat night and you see something
like I want to build a raisedgarden bed for my garden, you
(36:20):
start to curate that piece ofyour digital garden.
I think it's interesting.
I'm going to try it.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Oh, you've not
started yet, because I would
have to see what you're talkingabout.
To know what you're talkingabout.
Okay, well, that soundsinteresting.
Join us on that journey.
Do you already have a digitalgarden?
Do you know what Amanda'stalking about?
Let me know FamiliarWilson's atgmailcom.
All right, Amanda.
That's all there is.
(36:48):
There is no more.
What do you think of that mess?
And boy, was it a mess.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Yeah, sorry, I can't
help it.
Soccer was canceled todaybecause we had thunderstorms and
hail which apparently nevershowed up.
Did you know we're supposed toget light hail today?
No, I did not know that thatwas in the forecast.
I'm very disappointed.
Thunderstorms and light hail.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
We were in the hail
village today.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Different hails, oh
got it.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
All right.
Well, we cannot get out of herewithout thanking those people
for whom we have thanks.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
I was going to say
the bell tolls and I don't know
why.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
No, those people
without whom we would not be
able to do this.
So we want to thank in noparticular order, because you
know, time is a spiral Matt, whodesigns blueprints with crayons
.
Antonio, who speaks in hushedtones.
Josh Scar, who is closed onTuesdays, danny Buckets Danny,
do not lick the frogs again.
Chicken Tom, who clucks twicein approval.
(37:47):
Monique, from Germany, makes itto brunch on time.
Joey, joey, refined.
Gay.
Jeff, who comes with velvetropes and complimentary
cocktails.
Mark and Rachel, with all thejazz hands and inexplicable
giggles.
And Dan and Gavin.
(38:09):
We are still looking for theEnd of the rainbow.
So thank you all very, verymuch, and we love you.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Love you Go, be kind
Bye, thank you.