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This week on Super Familiar with the Wilsons, Josh finds inner peace through matcha, Amanda recounts a terrifying ER visit and both hosts navigate existential dread, 

Also, HOA beef, pediatric sleep regression, and questionable doctor fashion choices. 

Plus: Josh wants a sundress, Amanda gets approached by a Navy man at Publix, and refined gay thoughts make a triumphant return. 

It's an episode about family, mortality, and whether your doctor should look like a frat bro.
(Featuring real medical scares, fake medical credentials, and a sprinkle of Taoism.)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Familiar Wilson's Media Relationships are the
story.
You are made of meat, my friend, all the way down.
The following podcast useswords like and and also If
you're not into any of that shit, then now's your chance.
Three, two, one run.

(00:21):
I'm super familiar with you,Wilson, Get it.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Welcome to Super Familiar with the Wilsons.
I'm Amanda.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
And I'm Josh Amanda.
I have a new regime, a newthing that I'm trying, and I saw
an interesting result from itjust now have we talked about my
matcha?

Speaker 2 (00:46):
thing?
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Matcha is supposed to be like this magic thing, right
?
This, this magic powder thatyou put and you make tea out of,
and it's got all of thesehealth benefits and a lot of
people use it as a substitutefor coffee, right Cause it has
caffeine.
Well, I've been looking for asubstitute for coffee because I
drink, or have drank, drunk, alot of coffee and it gets me.

(01:11):
It helps me focus at work, butit gets me really, really
agitated when it's at its heightand then I kind of have that
crash.
So I was reading that matchadoesn't give you that.
It has caffeine, but it givesyou a nice steady caffeine
effect for like the rest of theday.
I got some and it is deliveringas promised, but there's also

(01:33):
another effect.
Another consequence is that Ifeel like a low level euphoria
right throughout the day.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Really.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
And it lasts like it's still with me right now.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
That's kind of lovely .

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, and I had a little bit of a personality
change.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
We are in a little disagreement with our homeowners
association right now and weshan't get into it for reasons,
but one of them just drove byNormally, and naturally I'm
pretty confrontation averse.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yes, yes, you are.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
You are the bulldog in the family.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yes, but not right now.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
But not right now, but today, as the gentleman was
driving by in his branded golfcart good thing they can afford
those at least I looked straightat him, gave him a big smile
and a big wave and he clearly isaware of, like the things that
are going on dispute.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
He just looked at me with so confused and he waved
back I know I was so amazedbecause I was out across like a
couple streets from you, but Isaw him wave.
I didn't see you and we.
We should clarify that ourhomeowners association is not
owned by the people who livehere no, no, no, but I mean,
we're not gonna get into it,we're not gonna get into it, but

(02:46):
I don't want people thinkingthat we are disputing with our
neighbors and being rude to ourneighbors.
It's run by a management company, our neighbors, we're not
fighting with.
But I saw him wave and Ithought, damn, like that's
ballsy.
But then I came over.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
You were like, well, what if he gave you stink eye or
whatever?
And my response is I wish hewould.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, I'm a little worried because they know that
we tattled on them and I'mwaiting for some sort of
retaliation.
That's enough.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
That's too much.
You probably already said toomuch.
We got to leave that alone.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Just saying that this matcha has really has an effect
on me.
Apparently, I really has aneffect on me.
Apparently, I need matcha and Idon't know if it's good or if
it's bad, but what is matchamade out of?
Matcha.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
What is matcha?

Speaker 1 (03:29):
I didn't do the research, I didn't care.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Is it a root?
Is it a leaf?
What is it?

Speaker 1 (03:34):
I don't know.
I think it's a leaf.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Okay, muffy loves matcha lattes.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
I don't.
I think matcha, everything thatI see when people add matcha to
things on the baking show ittastes like grass is what the
people say.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Matcha is a finely ground powder of green tea,
specially processed from shadegrown tea leaves.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Okay, so it's green tea.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yes, I understand that one of the differences is
that, because it's a powder,it's not something that you
steep, you put and you mix thepowder in and then you actually
consume the powder as well.
So it's not something that yousteep, you put and you mix the
powder in and then you actuallyconsume the powder as well.
so it's not just like so, it's alot stronger, it's not just
like regular tea anyway, itdoesn't matter I don't mind
grass, all right, and the lastcouple weeks the wilsons have

(04:19):
really been through it we allneed matcha we need matcha.
It's a good thing, because if Ididn't have matcha in my life
right now, I'd be in a piss poormood.
As it is, I'm doing all right.
Here's a bit of a triggerwarning.
We're about to talk about atrip to the ER that Muffy made
and, yeah, we at one pointwasn't sure she was going to

(04:40):
make it, and so there's yourtrigger warning.
Amanda, paint the picture and Imay ask you questions as you go
through, because for thebeginning part of this I wasn't
there.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, well, I wasn't there either.
That's the thing.
So a little bit of background.
Muffy is allergic to sesame andtree nuts.
So for the people who don'tknow, that's almonds, cashews,
walnuts, any nut that grows on atree weirdly, except for a
coconut almonds, cashews,walnuts, any nut that grows on a
tree weirdly, except for acoconut.
And she knows, like she doesreally well with the food

(05:09):
choices that she makes and wehad never had an anaphylactic
reaction.
Then a couple years ago she hadan anaphylactic reaction to
sesame.
I had bought some pumpkinbiscuit Trader Joe's didn't even
think to look at it and thefirst second ingredient was
tahini.
So after one bite she startedthrowing up.

(05:29):
Her mouth felt funny, she wasgetting hives.
We tried Benadryl.
It wasn't working.
So I took her to the ER that'sclose to us.
We basically live in theparking lot of an ER that's
right outside our neighborhood.
Before I ever got to sign thepapers they had already given
her the epinephrine shot.
I learned from that trip thatanaphylactic is not necessarily

(05:49):
that your throat closes up.
It is three or more bodysystems engaged.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Please note that the Wilsons are not medical
professionals, nor do we professto be.
Always consult your doctor whenyou need any sort of important
shit figured out.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Or chat GPT, as I've been diagnosing myself this week
.
Yeah, by the way.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Amanda's got this sore throat and I'm like you
need to go to the doctor, andher response is I took a picture
of my throat and sent it tochat GPT and I'll be okay.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
No, I just sent you the screenshots from chat GPT.
I didn't explain any of that toyou.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Listeners, is this how it should go?
Is this how it should go?
Is this have we given up?

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Have we given up Chat ?
Gpt said I'll be fine.
They just told me to rest myvoice, which I'm so glad we're
doing this now.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, very good.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Anyway, you can get.
You know, gastric skin,respiratory, whatever Three or
more body systems engaged is ananaphylactic reaction.
So we got an epidural.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
No was not an epidural man.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
that's a hell of a thing that was a different ER
visit.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
She got an epinephrine shot.
Wait with her, no with me.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
So she got an epinephrine shot.
We stayed there for like fourhours, came home fine.
That was three years ago andshe doesn't really care her epi,
because she's very, very goodabout what she eats.
I was home working last Fridayor Friday was a week ago, I
guess and I was home withWinthrop because we are in that
lull between when camp is overand when school starts, and so

(07:10):
I'm home, Otherwise known as thesixth circle of hell yeah right
and because it is ourtemperature, is the surface of
the sun hell that I can't takehim outside and do things Like
we are stuck inside.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Are you having like a weird flashback to the pandemic
to lock down with?

Speaker 2 (07:24):
yeah, he was so much tinier, he was three oh yeah and
it what.
He wasn't as addicted to ascreen as he has right now.
Um, although we did much bettertoday, but that's a different
story.
I'll tell you that later.
We're talking about the er trip.
Uh, she took my car.
She was at work and I get aphone call from her around
lunchtime and she said I'mhaving an allergic reaction and
you should come pick me up.
I said okay, but you have mycar, I can't come get you.

(07:46):
So I called you, can you go gether?
You dropped everything, youwent to get her, but in the
process of you going to get herand it's like what a 20 minute
trip from your office, somethinglike that Her throat started
swelling up and so she wassaying I'll be okay, I'll be
okay, I'll be okay.
And I said, no, we're gonna,we're gonna call EMS, and so I
called 9-1-1.
I was on the phone with themand on FaceTime with her on my

(08:10):
computer.
They got to her in maybe two,three minutes.
I watched them load her intothe ambulance.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Everybody that was at my office was amazing wait a
second so you were on FaceTimewith her.
They grab her, load her in theambulance and she's holding the
phone.
They were talking to me throughher phone, oh okay, I'm
imagining like that's someinfluencer shit right there like
all that's happening, but alsoshe's still doing the video self
.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
She wasn't really talking, they got her in they
gave her an epinephrine shot.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
They took the phone, they gave her oxygen no, it was
laying in her lap but, I saidwhere are you taking her?

Speaker 2 (08:43):
and they responded to me, so I was having a
conversation with them, okay.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Um, it was very, very such a weird world that we live
in so they transported her tothe er.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
You said I called you .
You said I'm gonna come get youin winthrop.
I had to go out and tell him.
I said something really scaryhappened, but it's gonna be okay
.
So I told him.
He immediately ran upstairs andgot dressed and went and stood
by the front door and was readyto go.
I mean, he understood hisassignment right then and we got
to the ER.
You couldn't find a place topark so I went in.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
It's pretty bad when you go to the ER and you're
screwed because you can't park.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Well, they have a valet service but nobody came
right Like nobody was workingthe valet.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
I sent you all in and I was like the fourth car deep
waiting for valet and they justnever showed up.
So I'm just like, well, screwthis.
I ended up taking Winthrop toour mutual friend's house
because she has kids and she wasable to watch him.
Then I went back to the ER.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
So I walk into the ER .
First of all, there are peoplejust lining the hallways and
beds, like there are clearly norooms.
There are people with like likebroken limbs people.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
I mean it was a sight , a guy came in did you feel
like it was like the medicalequivalent of jerusalem?
On on christmas eve what?
No room.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
No room at the I was like what are you talking about?
A guy came in, he on astretcher, he clearly had
committed some sort of crimebecause they were armed
policemen all around him.
Oh, no, shit, you didn't tellme that.
Yeah, no, I forgot to tell you.
And they were, he like armedpolicemen around him.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
That was a thing.
So I'm really glad that youdidn't find parking, because
Winthrop did not need to be inthe ER, or he would have been
super into it.
Maybe he'll go to med school.
He would have gone to medschool if he ruined those
chances.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
No, I'm just saying that he likes to watch the
videos on YouTube.
That's true.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
So Muffy is okay.
Let's just say that becauseclearly she is.
But she needed two doses ofepinephrine and we found out
what it was is that she bought acheesecake at a vegan bakery.
The cheesecake was a matchastrawberry cheesecake.
Typically, things will say,like you know, banana bread with
walnuts, and she goes off ofthat.
Well, cashews are um.

(10:59):
Cashew flour is a prominentingredient in vegan bakery.
She's somehow baking, shesomehow managed to avoid it, but
there was cashew flour in aprominent ingredient in vegan
bakery.
She's somehow baking, shesomehow managed to avoid it, but
there was cashew flour in thecrust and the ingredients
weren't listed Now, not thefault of the bakery, and I've
communicated with them and theywere really great.
They said our ingredients arealways available, please ask.
But I just wish people would goahead and list ingredients.

(11:21):
It would make things so mucheasier for people with allergens
.
And so she had one bite andwent into anaphylactic shock,
and had we not have called EMS,it would have been a very
different outcome.
Her body gave her enough timelike three minutes for the
ambulance to get there.
She shall never be parted fromher EpiPen, ever again.

(11:44):
We now have four of them in thehouse and they're going.
She's going to the dorm in aweek and a half.
We've had lots of majorconversations.
She looked at me the next dayand said I could have died, and
we said, yes, you could have.
And so she now understands shehas to ask for ingredients.
She thinks that she didn't likeit, thought it was embarrassing
, but she has to ask.
So we're in the ER, I get thereand she's okay.

(12:07):
But then I watched a rash startat her feet and climb up her
body and she was it started ather feet?

Speaker 1 (12:14):
I thought it started at her face.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
No, well, I noticed it on her legs first, so I don't
know where it started, but, andshe was just.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
It's like one of those pictures on one of those
drinks you pour a hot liquid init and it goes from the bottom
to the top and she was justclawing at her skin.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
I mean she was kind of losing it and the nurse and I
had to take her.
She was in jeans and her legswere swelling up so much that
her jeans were hurting her andit took both of us to get her
jeans off of her, and that wasafter a dose of epinephrine.
So they wound up giving heranother dose.
They did an EKG, they did achest x-ray.
She had low potassium, so shewas having some heart issues and

(12:53):
it was really severe.
We were there for, I think,about seven or eight hours seven
hours, and we were maybe goingto stay overnight.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Can we stop here and talk about the attending doctor?

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Well, that's yes.
The guy who said we were goingto stay overnight Can we stop
here and talk about theattending doctor.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Well, that's, yes, the guy who said we were going
to stay overnight.
So at this point, dearlisteners, I had gotten back and
we are sitting there and theattending doctor came in.
Now, I know that he was theattending doctor because he
identified himself as such thathe was the attending doctor,
because he identified himself assuch.
Now, that's the only way that Iwould have known that he was
the attending doctor, because hevery easily could have been a

(13:33):
frat boy who was admitted thenight before for alcohol
poisoning.
Was lost and was lost andwandered in because he came in.
His t-shirt was just a littletoo short.
His pants were hiked down alittle bit so that we could see
his boxers.
Oh yes, and I don't know if hehad flip-flops on, I would not

(13:53):
have been surprised I meanyou've heard of House MD.
He was.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Animal House MD okay.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
This is Dr Sloth.
So he comes in and he's likeyeah, so I'm Dr Dave, not his
real name, I'm Dr Dave and I'mthe attending, and so I just
needed to come in here and talkto you.
I was just like what ishappening right now?

Speaker 2 (14:18):
I know.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
It was so otherworldly, it was so.
Like you know, we don't talkpolitics on this show but and
oftentimes I've compared what'shappening right now in the
United States to that movieIdiocracy, and that could have
been a scene out of that where,just like a total moron is now,
oh, you get to be a doctorbecause you know you got to this

(14:39):
level on the game of life orsomething, and I was really
trying to think does what onewear matter in a situation like
that?
Right, Because he came in and,yeah, he presented himself as Dr
Chuckles but like he knew hisstuff clearly and he in no

(15:00):
uncertain terms said that Muffycould have died.
He says that I've been here for10 years and I've had three
people in the ER in thissituation die.
Right, so we took him seriouslybecause of that message, but
I'm like it matters to me.
Yeah, it matters to me.
Look, you're going to come inand deliver that news and you

(15:21):
want to have legitimacy as adoctor, as an authority.
I want you with the shirt, Iwant you with the tie, I want
you with a gold pl.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
I want you with the tie.
I want you with a the whitecoat Gold-plated stethoscope.
A gold-plated one, at least anengraved one his mom got him
when he graduated from medicalschool.
Something.
A name tag, did he have one?

Speaker 1 (15:41):
He did have a name badge.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
But you didn't look to see if it was Dr Dave, If it
matched if it wasn't likeMargaret's down in reception.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
No, I didn't notice that.
Now, granted, I am all forcomfort and they have a really
hard job, and so part of me is,hell yeah, like, let them be
comfortable with all the stressthat they're under.
And, trust me, I am like MrComfort, like I'm so much, mr
Comfort, that you called me outthe other day because I've now

(16:11):
chosen to wear swim trunks asregular shorts.
We were at a birthday party.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
We were at a social event and I tried to put my hand
in your pocket and it was sewnshut and you looked at me and
you went these are swim trunks.
What the hell, sir?
We were at an event.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Okay, but I'm also not a doctor.
I can do that.
I'm in my middle age and damnit.
I want to be comfortable, butnot Dr Dave.
I do not want Dr Dave.
I want him to be slightlyuncomfortable so that all he's
thinking about is I better givethe best damn service to these
people so then I can go home andchange into my, my frat uniform
.
I don't want him to feel freeto, like you know, skive off and

(16:55):
go take a nap under, you know,the admitting desk.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Well, he was the night doctor so he had just
gotten on call, so maybe he justwoke up somewhere.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah he just woke up like in a closet and they rolled
him out and said go at it, drdave, you got some people to see
she's she's dying.
Go see her.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
We're sober up or whatever it was funny because
when he first came in muff hewas super out of it and then, um
, this, so you and I werenoticing the clothes.
And then the second time hecame in she was a little more.
A little.
She had had her second dose ofepinephrine and so she was a
little more with it and shelooked at his clothes and looked
at us and was like what is this?
And she's really into the pit.

(17:31):
The new noah wiley show, whichis the er in pittsburgh and I
asked her I said, is thisanything like the pit?
And she was like no, this isn't.
This is nonsense, like I don'tknow what's happening here, but
this is nonsense.
So we are very, very gratefulthey were going to admit us, not
to the icu, but a step downfrom that, a step up from
regular care I feel like dr davewas a step down from a real

(17:52):
doctor, or whatever and she weredave was like no, I'm not
letting you go home, I've seenthree people die.
I'm not letting you go home.
And she kept saying I don'twant to take a bed from somebody
who needs it, I'm gonna be okay.
She kept saying I'm gonnaconvince him I need to go home.
And he came in and he looked ather and he said do you want to
go home?

Speaker 1 (18:10):
she said yes, I do, and so he sent us home and and
she was able to do that withoutoffering him a token for a free
beer didn't have to play arounda beer pong and see if she won
or not it reminds me of a doctorit's you made that joke about
beer pong.
It reminds me of a doctor Iused to have in miami and he's
the worst doctor I've ever hadReal thin, super uncommunicative

(18:33):
and like slightly scary right.
And so it's one of those thingswhere I just had to have a
doctor, had to have one.
He was the only one left in thepractice.
I don't remember his name.
All I remember about him is Ifound out that his primary
doctoring was that he was adoctor for the United States

(18:53):
boxing team.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
And I was like that tracks yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
That tracks.
I should have known first timehe came in I complained of a
headache and he tried to shovesmelling salts under my nose.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Did he really?
No God, I'm so gullible, Ican't believe you.
I was like he was gonna checkyou for a concussion.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
I actually believed you I was like he was gonna
check you for a concussion.
I actually believed you.
He cut.
We gotta cut him.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
We gotta cut him so we get home and I, one of the
concessions for dr day was thatI said I would sleep with her so
that I could check her herbreathing, because he was
concerned she was going tore-react and her I didn't.
I barely slept because I keptwaking up to make sure that she
was breathing.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
And then the next morning she and I went to
Savannah, I did not want you togo on this trip.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
We had planned a mother daughter trip and we had
a bed and breakfast booked thatwe couldn't get the money back.
You were even saying you wouldrefund us the money, like you
would give us the money.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
I didn't want you to go.
I know Cause, like who knows,this is very scary.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
It was a very very scary thing and I would have
been like, had this havehappened and you would have
taken one of the kids away, Iwould have felt the same way you
wouldn't have let me.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
That's the difference .
That's the difference.
Now I will say that that wasFriday and into Saturday I
matcha on the weekends, yeah,and so if I was full of piss and
matcha, then this story mayhave been different all right.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Well, we need you to do that, which I like.
That it's matcha and not likegin, like matcha is what's
getting you through.
Uh, anyway, she and I went.
We had a lovely time insavannah.
We did a ghost tour, but I madeeverything she ate.
I made everybody tell meingredients, like we were real
serious with all the food sheate.
And then she came back and shewent to minnesota with her dad's
family and she did it.

(20:32):
She managed all of her foodthere as well.
So we're doing okay, but it wasreally really scary I mean, I
thought at some point that youknow, she might not be with us I
mean, I knew by the time I gotthere that she was okay.
But I realized how quickly thatcould have gone south.

(20:53):
Very quickly.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Now.
Winthrop had a great time athis little play date and
everything but clearly thisaffected him too.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, he's not been sleeping.
So the night that I slept, wegot home from the hospital, he
slept with you, and then we wentto Savannah.
The next day he slept with you,and now he is not wanting to be
in his bed.
He is not wanting to sleepalone.
I had to go lay with him lastnight at like 10 o'clock because
he was still awake until hefell asleep.
So we have seriously regressedin our sleep.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, I'm not for it.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Not for the sleep regression.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
No, I'm not for having to be his sleep Sherpa,
as I'm trying to guide him upmountain exhaustion.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
I know, but I mean, this has been traumatic for him
too, so this attachment is whathe needs right now.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah, I mean, I remember as a kid I had problems
sleeping, but I was a lot olderand I was dealing with
existential issues of dread andlike while I was, you know, very
in a very strict religious sect.
So I was laying awake at theage of 12 wondering if I was
going to go to hell, so thatthat kept.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Now I don't imagine that he's dealing with that,
though no, but even even at likethe age of five, he was asking
questions at night like whathappens when we die, what, what
happens next?
And then I would tell him whatI thought and he would say I
don't think anything happens, Ithink it's just done, you're
over, and he was like five, sono, he's.

(22:22):
And then muffie, at his age too, was worried about like a
desolate wasteland for herchildren.
Like my children get real likeexistential and real high
anxiety.
So yeah, he, and he alsoforgets how to sleep every day
well, he doesn't forget how tosleep but that's what he says.
I don't know how to sleep,really, you don't.

(22:43):
You don't actively sleep likeyou, just your body gets tired
and you go to sleep.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
I guess he doesn't.
He doesn't get that sleephappens to you yeah right, you
are acted upon by sleep.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
You do not act upon sleep was he's.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
He's acting upon sleep and that he's pushing it
off yeah just go with it, manjust got to get him to go with
it.
I gotta.
I just ordered a book at thesuggestion of our friend Chris
Barron, and he has suggestedthat I look into Taoism okay and
the little I understand aboutTaoism right now because I

(23:18):
hadn't gotten the book yet andhe just explained a little bit
of it to me through text wasthat it's the idea of you just
kind of find the way of theuniverse and you just flow with
it.
You go down the river, baby.
You stop resisting.
And so this is we need to getour kid to embrace that and stop
resisting.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, I don't know.
He's also been super clingy,though, like we were when we
went to the airport yesterday topick her up and we went to
dinner and then we went to WorldMarket for the first time,
which I was super excited about.
Then we went to world marketfor the first time, which I was
super excited about.
He would not let go of me.
I mean, he just was hugging mylegs and the whole time.
So he's, but school's about tostart, so we get a lot.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
But I agree with you, we need to, just he needs to go
with this flow yeah, I don'tknow what to do about that, but
I'm gonna read this book and Iget all the oh good, you'll
solve all the things for us.
Pocket watch, tickingconstricting coat and vest
marking moments.
Speaking of this swim trunkthing which, by the way, they're

(24:17):
board shorts.
Does that matter to you thatthey're board shorts instead of
swim trunks?
No friend, they have a fakepocket.
Listen, they're waterproof andstain proof.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
They're not.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
They had a.
I saw the stain on them.
No but that.
But I'm saying that that'llcome right off because of the
material.
Anyway, another thing that I'vestarted to do that I think is
very clever is carrying aroundan umbrella when it's sunny.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
I noticed you did that in Savannah.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Listen, when I put on a hat, my head is drenched with
sweat it's ridiculous.
It's like there's a tiny showerunderneath, and so having an
umbrella is perfect.
First of all, I can shade morethan one person and I don't have
anything on my head and I canstill get the breeze on my
everything perfect.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
I think that people should carry around umbrellas in
for the sunny weather it's onlygoing to get hotter, you know,
and you think people werelooking at you like it's not
raining.
What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (25:07):
oh, they were.
Yeah, they were.
They were looking at me askance, but I don't care that reminds
me so when I was growing up.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
My, I don't know how this worked, but I thought this
was the way that all thingsworked and something I found it
out and, like people are makingfun of me, our air conditioner
at our house somehow generatedwater, like there was like this
water filter.
That happened with the airconditioner, so whenever the air
came on at my home, oursgenerates water no, no, no, it

(25:35):
we had like my.
It was hooked up to a sprinkler,so when the air conditioner
came on, the grass startedwatering.
There was some sort of likesystem that sounds freaking
brilliant.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
That because what happens with ours is that it
doesn't drain.
If the little outlet getsplugged it doesn't drain, and
then our freaking AC stops.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, so my dad had this figured out.
My dad was in construction,right like so he figured this
out.
But it was during a hurricaneone year and the air came on and
so it was pouring outside andour sprinklers were on and our
neighbors took a video to make,like what are this?
What is this idiot doing?
So?
But there was a method to thatmadness.
So clearly that was the samekind of looks you were getting
with your umbrella.

(26:16):
So we're going to this partythat I've talked about, that you
were wearing these bathing suitto our friend jackie's 50th
birthday party board shorts.
I asked you to pull up at thegrocery store.
Let me run in and get a card.
I was in there maybe threeminutes and I made a friend.
This man walked up to me I wasin a dress because I we were
going to a party.
And he walked up and he saidyou look like you just came from
church and he goes.

(26:36):
But it's Saturday, but maybeCatholics go to church yeah,
saturday mass.
And he just started talkingabout this.
He said but I like, I likedresses better.
I mean, shorts and pants arefine, but I like dresses better.
They just seem comfortable.
And I said you know they reallyare.
I said my husband, you know,limits the fact that he can't
just like wear a dress to work.
And he said oh, he doesn't wearthem.
And it was a really weird turnof the conversation and I said

(26:58):
no, but I think he wants you towear a dress.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
I think he wants some sort of like trauma processing.
Did he think that you were?

Speaker 2 (27:06):
He was about 80.
So let's just say that.
So I didn't feel uncomfortable.
But he has no personal bubble.
He was standing right next tome.
I learned he served in the Navy.
I learned that he is fromPennsylvania.
I learned that he moved here 15years ago and I'm talking about
this was in the span of threeminutes.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
And you didn't yet determine whether you accepted
his insurance or not for thiscounseling session.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
I mean, we went way deep in the three minutes that
we were in this checkout linetogether.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Well, we've talked about before how I wouldn't mind
wearing a kilt Although I don'tthink that I would like to wear
a kilt, because I thought aboutit more, Because the idea is
that you've got this kilt on butit's belted.
And so you've got that.
See, I want more freedom thanthat Friend.
Jeff wears a lot of kilts.

(27:54):
Again, I think kilts wouldafford you some freedom, but not
the freedom that I want.
If I'm gonna go ahead andswitch to wearing like dresses,
then it's gonna be like like asundress or a muumuu a muumuu.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
That's what I want you to know.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
It's gonna be a sundress, because I, I want to
at least be a little bitfashionable.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
But you want pockets.
This is the goal for everywoman in a dress.
You need pockets.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Okay, yeah, I would need pockets to keep all of my
stuff.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
But what would you do for support, though?
I mean, clearly you would haveunderwear on right, Because when
I wear dresses, I wearbasically bike shorts, but not
bike shorts like longerunderwear.
They're longer so that mythighs rub together, together
and that's not fun for anybody.
So what would you do forsupport?

Speaker 1 (28:33):
I think.
The idea, though, is that I'mlooking for freedom, so if I'm
going to wear underwear, thenwhat would you do?

Speaker 2 (28:39):
you get a little net, Like Chicken Tom has a net for
them.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Like a little sling, a little pouch.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah, maybe it's built into your sundress like,
instead of a slip, because some,some dresses have slips, so
that you're saying on the frontinside of my sundress, there's a
little.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
There's a little net, there's a little couch where
your testicles go no, but thenyou would like see them.
They would be there.
It'd be like a target.
It's like kick here.
No, no, no, I would feel soexposed.
They're just like two littleoutlaws.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Not little, not little.
I never understood why peoplegot upset about those being
little.
I would assume you would wantthem to be more little.
Big ones seem like they wouldjust get in the way of things.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yeah, but when you're talking about how brave someone
, you don't say, boy, that guyreally has little balls.
That's true, fair enough.
Fair enough, email, and it'semail time.
If you want to send us an email, send it to familiarwilsons at
gmailcom.
This week's email is from noneother than Refined Gay Jeff.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Hi Jeff.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
So Jeff opens up saying that the blowers on his
furnace are acting up and needto be replaced.
Terrible timing.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Okay, so this email, I think, is a little few days
ago and.
I saw on the socials that Jeffdid have to replace it and it
was not an inexpensive thing.
And it wouldn't be.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
yeah, I'm so sorry, jeff, he says.
I've just returned from asuccessful dental visit.
It was time for a cleaning.
I go every four months, believeit or not, because my dentist,
who I've been going to for 10years now, has erased my fear of
dental visits.
Oh nice.
So my reflections this weekwill be my refined gay thoughts
while in the dental chair.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Okay, good, here we go.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
First, I wonder if Meryl Streep goes to the
dentist's office, or does shehave a concierge dentist that
comes to her house with atricked-out dental RV?
Wouldn't that be the ultimateto have all of your medical
visits for each type of doctoron retainer and never be
inconvenienced by all thosenasty germs and bacteria-laden
waiting chairs?

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Why specifically Meryl Streep?

Speaker 1 (30:47):
I mean, I'm assuming he was on the happy gas at this
point.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Did you know that Meryl Streep and Martin Short
are dating?
No, I did not know that, okay,they are Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
I wonder if it's feasible to install a flat
screen TV on the ceilingdirectly above my considerably
large four poster bed so that Ican look at TV or other soothing
videos while I'm in a supineposition.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Like they do at the dental office.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, Like they do at the dental office.
Yeah, so this is why he saidthat.
I know I'm agreeing, Winthropdoes that and it works a storm.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yeah, but Winthrop gets mad because there's always
a movie he doesn't want to watch.
Last time I was like Lilo andStitch or something.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Oh, he doesn't get to choose.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
No, they don't have cable.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
No, it's just whatever movie's playing.
Ridiculous Call in the dentalRV really is a hot little
long-haired otter.
His husband, who also shareshis dental practice, is also
very attractive.
I guess that's why they win theHouston Annual Gayest and
Greatest Awards each year forBest Dentist.
The Gayest and Greatest is ayearly compilation of basically

(31:41):
everyone's favorite whateverDentist, eye doctor, pcp or
personal care physician,restaurants, auto mechanics,
companies to work for gayliaisons with the community and
many other positions that peopledeal with or come into contact
with on a daily basis in theprocess of living our best lives
.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
I like this, but I have a question.
In order to qualify, do youhave to be a gay practitioner of
any of these things, or doesthe gay community vote and it
doesn't matter the sexualorientation of the person who is
nominated?

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Well, it does say the gayest and the greatest awards.
Okay, so you would think thatit's part of Not only do you
have to be a gay eye doctor, youhave to be the gayest eye
doctor.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
I want to go to that eye doctor.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
I didn't need it at the time because it was just a
simple cleaning, but nitrousoxide really is, as Tina Turner
would say, simply the best.
When I do use it there, theywill connect me up and my
dentist will check back with mein a few minutes later, ask me
if I'm doing all right that Ishould be at about two
margaritas now.
This is why I love my dentist.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Oh, whenthrop has to go.
I had to cancel his appointmentlast week because of everything
going on here, but he's got togo get some sealants put on and
they're going to give him thenitrous gas and I'm looking
forward to it.
Has he ever had it?
Yeah, when he had a stitch onhis eye.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Oh, that's right.
And he wanted to kiss my hand.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
No, he wanted you to kiss his.
That's right he was like, likethe pope, the tiny drunk pope he
just held his littlethree-year-old hand out to josh
and said kiss my hand hey, jeffcontinues.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
X-rays have come so far.
Now it's just a click of thehandheld radar gun aimed at the
side of your mouth.
It's instantly viewable on themonitor in front of you.
No more covering you up in alead blanket.
It allows my fabulous linenshirts to remain wrinkle-free.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah, they still cover Winthrop up and he was not
happy about it.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yeah, next a great hygienist will laud praise on
you for your work at Flossing.
Oh nice, she told me she wassuper impressed with my dental
hygiene and there was nobleeding at all.
That's the equivalent of metelling my dog Johnny who's a
good boy.
And then, lastly, he saysseveral times during my cleaning
my hygienist told me to closemy mouth a little.

(33:56):
I assume this allows her toreach places with her
instruments that she normallycouldn't reach if my jaw were a
little wider.
As a refined gay man, I havefull motion.
Can I finish as a refined gayman?
I have full motion.
Can I finish as a refined gayman?
I have full range of motionwith my jaw.
References upon request.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Oh gosh, I have TMJ.
We'll just leave that rightthere.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
What are you doing right now?

Speaker 2 (34:24):
I was just saying I can't open my jaws that way.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Wait, what did you?
You just.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
I think something just hit our house.
Did you hear that loud voice?
I think you're trying to changethe subject.
I am Okay.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
So he says that's all for this week.
My friends, I have one weekleft on my vacation.
Faculty returns next week,August 1st, which has already
happened actually.
We should see how, um how, he'sdoing.
So he hopes things are back tonormal and he wishes us peace
and cookies thanks, jeff.
Have a great school year if youwant to email us like jeff does

(35:02):
or differently than jeff does.
Familiarwilsons at gmailcom.
Peterwilson's at gmailcom.
All right, Amanda, that's allthere is.
There is no more.
What do you think of that mess?

Speaker 2 (35:18):
I mean I think it was good.
I will say you were playingsomething back and I got quite a
pronounced vocal fry, becausemy throat hurts really badly and
I'm going to be fine, accordingto AI, but I'm still rocking
the sore throat.
So please forgive the vocal fry.
I sang about it, you did Allright.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
This podcast is the combined efforts of a whole
bunch of people, including DrMatt, who does phenomenal
abdominal surgery.
Dr Antonio does bombasticthoracic exams, dr Leo lasers
livers with lethal precision ohmy God, ew gross.

(36:03):
Danny Buckets, joey Joey wingrepair.
Joey Joey.
Dr Refine, gay Jeff is theon-call doctor of love and
lavender.
Anesthesia Doctors Mark andRachel rotate cuffs romantically
and robustly and doctors Danand Gavin do the best breast
enhancements.
Oh Lord, they each take one andmeet in the middle.
Nope.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Nope, nope.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Nope, all right, folks, until next week.
Y'all take it easy and go withthe flow, just floating down the
river, and you'll be, I'd bekind, while you do it, bye, bye,
thank you.
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