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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Hello and good day.
Welcome to the Super GoodCamping Podcast.
My name is Pamela.
SPEAKER_01 (00:04):
I'm Tim.
SPEAKER_00 (00:05):
And we are from
supergoodcamping.com.
We're here because we're on amission to inspire other people
to get outside and enjoy campingadventures such as we have as a
family.
Today's episode, we wanted totalk a little bit about how
camping can improve yoursurvival skills.
You just never know where youmight be in some kind of
situation that's unexpected.
There might be some sort ofnatural disaster, some sort of
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accident.
And because you've been camping,you've got the ability to handle
these kind of situations.
SPEAKER_01 (00:31):
Or as the days,
every time I wake up these days,
it might be the zombieapocalypse.
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So some of the key
survival skills that you can
enhance with your campingactivities are navigation and
orientation skills.
So using maps, compasses, GPStools to find and follow your
routes and being able tonavigate unfamiliar terrain.
SPEAKER_01 (00:55):
Fire building.
I always consider that anextremely important one.
Although I tend to carry itlighter and waterproof matches.
I don't do all the bushcraftstuff, although I do know how
to.
I'm smart enough to grab somebirch bark along the way, et
cetera, et cetera.
But it's important because itwill give you warmth.
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which is a good thing.
It helps you.
You can do cooking over it andsafety and signaling should you
ever be in trouble.
So all good things to
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know.
One, your fuel might run out andthen you didn't gauge that
properly.
You've got the fire as a backup.
Your lighter might not work.
You run out of fuel in yourlighter.
I think all kinds of things canhappen.
Absolutely.
You might need an actual abilitywith flint and steel or whatever
to make a real fire.
SPEAKER_01 (01:45):
Yes.
So I...
Me personally, I carry lighterwaterproof matches.
I carry a flint with me as well.
I seem to think there'ssomething else.
Oh, the electric lighter aswell.
The little zappy thing.
SPEAKER_00 (01:59):
A Tesla coil is
pretty cool.
So yeah, that's where backups ofyour backups is usually a good
plan too.
SPEAKER_01 (02:06):
Yes, except that my
backpack is crazy heavy because
I have four
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backups.
Not so lightweight.
Shelter building skills.
So that's where the necessitiesof you have to have food,
clothing, shelter.
Shelter is one of those things.
So setting up tents, even makinga makeshift shelter.
Tarps, ropes, natural materials.
materials if you had to come upwith something on your own.
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You can experiment withdifferent setups, especially if
you're car camping.
You're sort of a controlledenvironment.
It's not the end of the world.
If you haven't set things upproperly, you can either redo or
you can sit in your car for awhile.
And then being able to adapt toadverse weather conditions.
And that's for, too, if you'rehaving a bad country and
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suddenly a wind picks up and youhaven't set up your tarp
properly and now it's aparachute instead of a tarp,
then you can have to adjust tothose kind of things.
SPEAKER_01 (03:00):
Yeah, I mean, in
cases like that, Thomas and I
have actually run into it whereit's like, where the heck did
that come from?
Okay, crap.
We staked it to literally turnedit into a...
a sail in front of our tent sothat it would deflect some of
the wind.
We staked it all across theground and then ran a couple of
lines up into the trees.
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It flapped and flopped, but itkept our tent from getting blown
over.
I'm pretty sure it would haveflattened our tent.
It came out of nowhere and itwas about Mach 7.
So another important one, foodand water procurement, whether
it's through fishing,foraging...
You know, you could get intotrapping and things like that as
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far as getting safe foodsources.
Also, having a little, like I'vegot, Pamela bought me just a
small, I was going to say a flipchart.
It's not, but it's a small book,just like a booklet about safe
wild edibles.
Mushrooms are always a bitdodgy.
SPEAKER_00 (04:04):
Not those kind of
edibles.
Not those kind of edibles.
Well, the mushrooms, yes.
Be careful with mushrooms.
I just think it's a bit toodicey.
They are those kind of edibles
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sometimes.
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Unless you really
know your stuff with the
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mushrooms.
Mushrooms are always edibleonce.
Yeah.
And then water procurement.
So whether you're filteringwater, I can't speak for the
entire world.
I know that here, certainly herein Ontario, I think it's
probably at least a NorthAmerican thing.
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There's always something in thewater.
There are people that chance it.
I know Adam Schultz has said anumber of times that I dip my
cup in the water and I drinkstraight from it.
Good on you, man.
I'm pretty sure I've had thingsgo poorly for me after filtering
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water.
So I suspect I'm not as...
iron clad in the stomach area.
Um, but filtering, you know,rolling boil for a minute, uh,
over your, over whatever thatfire is, uh, iodine pills,
always take those with you likewater purification tablets, I
think is the more appropriateterm.
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Yeah.
Uh, first aid and emergency.
So just, Things happen.
You twist your ankle, you get acut you weren't expecting to
get, and you've got to know howto handle that when you're out
in the wild.
And the same things could happenif you got in a car accident and
suddenly you're in a situationwhere somebody is bleeding and
you have to figure out what todo to stop that bleeding.
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You're in the middle
of nowhere.
You may or may not have anSOS-enabled device with you.
SPEAKER_00 (05:41):
Well, it might take
hours, even if you do, for
someone to get to you.
So you've got to figure out someway to stop bleeding or deal
with a burn or something in themeantime.
SPEAKER_01 (05:50):
Yeah, absolutely.
That's a thing that was buggingme for a long time.
So I'm really glad last year,Thomas and I took the wilderness
and remote first aid.
Resource management.
So there's a thing where youneed to use your brain.
You know, you look atsuddenly...
You have an issue where you havelimited resources, whether it's
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canoe went over and half of yourfood went away, but you still
have, you know, 16 days till youcan get out or whatever the
situation is.
SPEAKER_00 (06:21):
Um, that happened
with Darren with ride, pedal,
repeat, just talking about thatexact scenario.
So you're saying
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I didn't come up
with that
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on my own.
They had to rejig their plansand coffee was one of those
vital things that.
SPEAKER_01 (06:35):
Yes, that's exactly
what it was too.
That's funny.
Cause that was the comments on,on the video.
Uh, it was like, Oh man, I can'tbelieve you lost that coffee
although it's a travesty cancelthe trip yeah so yeah you need
to you need to give some thoughtto how you how now you have to
manage those resources it goesit also goes back to um you know
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foraging and and fishing and andwhatnot too to supplement what
resources you have it could be
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you have a kid on a
growth spurt while you're in
that country so many times so
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many times um But
say you've mismathed and you
don't have enough fuel to getyou through.
So how are you going to do somecold soaks?
How's that going to play out?
How are you going to problemsolve?
And how are you going to adjustyour planning next time so that
you'll improve your potentialfor survival in whatever it is
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that you're doing?
SPEAKER_00 (07:34):
Which leads me right
into adaptability and problem
solving.
So you're always going to runinto something.
So weather forecasting is not aperfect science.
Sometimes you were expectingbeautiful sunny day and lo and
behold, wind and a thunderstormcame up or equipment fails.
So your tent leaks when youweren't expecting that or your
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sleeping pad suddenly has sprunga leak and now you're sleeping
on hard ground or your route,you were paddling along thinking
that you were going to be ableto paddle through, but then it's
low ground.
water and you can't get throughso now you're portaging instead.
So all kinds of things that youhave to be able to adapt to on
the fly and not necessarily beable to like you'd like to be
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able to plan everything to the Tbut your best laid plans of mice
and men you end up with somekind of variable that you
weren't expecting.
But so then you're forced toproblem solve and be adaptable
on the fly.
SPEAKER_01 (08:29):
Well, it's funny
that literally that entire list,
despite the fact that I'm notout there like a lot of our pals
are all the time, I haveexperienced every single one of
those things.
So why are survival skillsimportant?
The zombie apocalypse,obviously, but emergency
preparedness, like you just, youdon't know, especially with, I'm
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going to swing it towards, youknow, climate change.
You don't know what's going onanymore, you know, for things
like, you know, I think in theentirety of recorded history,
less than one hand, to the bestof my knowledge, we can count
the number of times tornadoeshave hit in Ontario.
Two of those are in my lifetime.
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That's pretty scary, man.
We get pretty dire warnings.
I mean, thankfully, weatherprediction is better than it
used to be.
So that's probably why we getwarnings and, you know, butt
covering 101, right?
Make sure people are safe.
If it took a little bit of timeout of your day to go and
shelter or whatever.
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Just stop being outside doingwhatever things you're doing.
Things are happening at a higherrate, things, weather events or
natural disaster type things arehappening all over the world.
But, you know, I'm thinkingspecifically about here at home,
happening at a much higher ratethan they ever have and to a
level that we've never seenbefore.
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I mean, we had a day where wehad over 100 millimeters of
rain.
I'm pretty sure that was arecord, like never, ever, ever
happened before.
And we had all kinds offlooding.
Like, you know, I remember adouble-decker GO train that
which is our public transit,long distance public transit,
down towards the lake at thebottom of the Gardner Expressway
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here in Toronto.
And the water was, it was asingle decker.
That's all you could see.
The water was that deep for somuch like that.
That was literally a lake, man.
It was insane.
So that's what...
being prepared to survive thingsbecause stuff like that is
happening.
Wildfires, you know, name it,you name it.
SPEAKER_00 (10:37):
Well, it builds
confidence.
So suddenly when you're in theseunexpected situations and you
have to know how to handle themor come up with some solution,
then you are no longer asanxious if you are in unfamiliar
surroundings or in yourunfamiliar territory of things
that you weren't expecting tohappen.
You suddenly have a certainamount of confidence to be able
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to know, okay, I've handledthings before.
I know I can handle thingsagain.
SPEAKER_01 (11:02):
Self-sufficiency
promotes independence and
non-reliance on on others.
So it doesn't take away fromresources that may be needed
elsewhere if you can wrangleyour own stuff.
And I'm speaking for myself,that makes you feel better at
the end of the day, that you cantake care of your own stuff, not
in a, I'm pretty sure I know,no, you actually can't do
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it.
It also promotes environmentalawareness, which we're big on
that.
Encourages more respect fornature, better understanding of
the importance of nature, butalso appreciation of our
surroundings and our ecosystems.
SPEAKER_01 (11:39):
Survivor skills,
I've already touched on this a
bit, but they might be criticalfor When you're doing outside
activities, whether it'stobogganing, I'm thinking winter
things, but skating, you're outfor a canoe trip, you're hiking,
you're hunting, because that hasso many things that could
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possibly go wrong, right?
Disasters, there's my weatherthing, but floods, earthquakes,
even something as simple aspower outages.
How do you deal with that,right?
Especially...
You know, it's like, oh, sun'sgoing down and then power
outage.
We're going to be in the darkshortly.
Where is your emergency?
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Because again, back up, back up,back up.
Not only do we have satellitecommunication, I'm usually
carrying my cell phone with me,but we also carry an emergency
radio that has lights on it, canpick up a.m.
AM, FM and weather bands on it.
Solar powered, crank powered,however you want to do that.
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So it sits here in our apartmentat home and then I take it and
then bring it back and put ithere in our apartment at home
for when the inevitable poweroutages do happen.
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And flashlights and
candles and
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all the things for
lights.
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And it might be
useful if you're traveling in
remote areas where you don'thave access to immediate help.
So that's where backcountrycamping for sure applies And so
then how exactly does campingenhance those skills?
It gives you this real worldscenarios where you can
practice.
And certainly with car camping,it is more of a kind of safe
space where you can try buildinga fire and it's not the end of
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the world if you couldn't getthe fire to go.
But it gives you this ability topractice it so that when you are
cast into that situationunexpectedly, you have those
skills that you've alreadypracticed.
SPEAKER_01 (13:35):
You get better at
things like muscle memory is a
thing.
Repeating, repeatedly doing atask, whatever that is, will
make you be, probably make yoube better at it, but certainly
make it be a no-brainer.
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You just automatically, that'syour go-to.
That's what you do.
So that'll make you moreprepared in the future for
whatever the heck comes down thepipe.
SPEAKER_00 (14:06):
One, it certainly
encourages also like teamwork
and collaboration.
Like a lot of these things arethings that outside of camping
or adventures, hiking, whatever,that in your everyday life, it's
important to be able to work asa team.
So whether you're working as ateam with your colleagues,
whether you're working as a teamwith your spouse, it gives you
the ability to collaborate withother people.
And in some sort of criticallife-threatening situation, you
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have to to be able tocollaborate with other people.
SPEAKER_01 (14:32):
Yeah, and doing
these sort of things, they're
part of camping anyhow for themost part.
It's a pretty low pressure wayto learn, to gain experience at
it, to do that repetitive musclememory sort of thing and spread
them around.
Whatever the group, if you'resolo, kind of hard to spread it
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around.
But as soon as you hit tandemand up, whether it's family,
friends, friends, whoever theheck is out with you, spread it
around the team, you know, letthem, okay.
So tonight I'm, I'm going tomake the fire or do the cooking
or water purification, or, youknow, I bang myself up enough
that we get plenty of practiceputting band-aids and stuff on.
SPEAKER_00 (15:15):
Thanks honey for
giving us the experience.
SPEAKER_01 (15:17):
There you go.
You're welcome.
Somebody's got to take it fromthe team.
Yeah.
You know what?
It's, it's a, It's one of thosewords, you know, it's not
somebody looking over yourshoulder and you did it wrong.
It's like you can all learn fromthat experience.
It's a pretty easy way to do
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it.
Yeah, and fun.
That's it for us for today.
Thank you so much for listening.
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