March 31, 2025 • 40 mins
Tyler Chilabecki's love affair with the Saskatchewan wilderness began with a fishing rod in his hand at just three years old. Now, as the creator behind the YouTube channel Puddle Jumper, he's on a mission to shatter stereotypes about his home province one paddle stroke at a time.
"Everyone thinks of Saskatchewan as flat prairies and wheat," Tyler explains with the weariness of someone who's heard it once too often. "But half our province is boreal forest and Canadian Shield." This northern wilderness forms the backdrop for his solo paddling adventures, which range from weekend trips to epic three-week journeys through some of Canada's most untouched waterways.
What makes Saskatchewan's backcountry uniquely appealing is the profound solitude it offers. While popular parks like Algonquin might have portage trails "like superhighways" with paddlers carrying coolers and boxes of wine, Tyler describes paddling for 12 days in Northern Saskatchewan without seeing another soul. Even in the province's "busier" paddling areas around Missinipi on the Churchill River, traffic is minimal compared to other Canadian paddling destinations.
The geological diversity adds another layer of fascination. In the "Pelican Window" area, paddlers can find three-billion-year-old Precambrian rock formations that create dramatic landscapes unlike anything you'd expect from Saskatchewan. Tyler's eyes light up describing the Athabasca Sand Dunes, Hunt Falls (the province's largest waterfall), and ancient pictographs along historic voyageur routes that connect the province's vast network of lakes and rivers.
For those inspired to explore Saskatchewan's hidden waterways, Tyler recommends connecting with local outfitters and using resources like GoTrekker maps. Many routes remain undocumented, requiring paddlers to study satellite imagery and topographic maps – adding an element of genuine exploration to each trip. As Tyler puts it: "There's so much to explore here and so much that's undocumented. That's where I keep my focus – trying to document these different routes that no one really knows about."
Ready for a paddling adventure that defies expectations? Follow Tyler's journeys on the Puddle Jumper YouTube channel and discover the Saskatchewan that tourists never see.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello and good day.
Welcome to the Super GoodCamping podcast.
My name is Pamela.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm Tim.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
And we are from supergoodcampingcom.
We're here because we're on amission to inspire other people
to get outside and enjoy campingadventures such as we have as a
family.
Today's guest is part of ourcontinuing quest to have guests
from every province andterritory on the podcast.
At some point he spends some ofhis free time solo paddling the
back country in Saskatchewan,and often filming it.
His trips last anywhere from afew days to the better part of a
(00:27):
month, and always involvefishing.
Please welcome Tyler Chilabeckifrom the YouTube channel Puddle
Jumper.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Hey guys.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Welcome Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
What's up?
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Good Adjusting to the time.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Sunday and, yeah, daylight savings time.
Yeah, lost an hour, which youguys don't do, right?
Yeah, let's just keep goingalong.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
You know it's kind of funny.
I don't know why people don'tmove away from the daylight
savings time, like Alberta, Ithink, voted on it a couple
years ago and it decided to keepthe daylight savings.
And it's like in Saskatchewan.
We're looking at everybody elsegoing oh, you guys are just
outrageous.
Like what are you guys doing?
Because it's awesome.
You never, you never, have toworry about it.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
So the world changes around you yeah, well, you seven
million clocks later goingaround resetting everything too,
and then you have to.
It's like oh, I do this twice ayear on my watch.
What buttons do I have to push?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
yeah, I know that feeling yeah all right, cool.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
So you're from saskatchewan.
It looks to me like you do.
If not all of your paddling insaskatchewan, certainly the
majority of it.
Do you ever get outside of theprovince at all?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
um, you know what?
There was a time there's a timewhere I actually lived up in
red lake ontario, so that thatwas pretty awesome.
It was only for about a yearand I took full advantage of
having that big wilderness parkthere.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
And there was actually a ton of other stuff
there.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
That was just you go down some logging roads and yeah
, you just you hear about aroute and you just kind of go
into the back country and justand just do it up.
So yeah, it's a I try to takestay Saskatchewan specific just
for my channel, because there'sjust so much to explore here.
I mean, you guys kind of justcall it Crownland and we just
(02:11):
kind of call it going out in thebush, because we don't really
have any designated, designatedpaddle parks here like you guys
have in Ontario.
So, yeah, it's, if there's somuch to explore here and so much
that's undocumented.
That's where I kind of try andkeep my focus with.
My channel is trying todocument all these different
routes that no one really knowsabout.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
So I absolutely love doing that and it just, yeah,
just to explore.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Like it's, it's, it's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
It's a frame of reference wise.
Everyone thinks of, likeSaskatchewan flat prairies wheat
.
Obviously, it's not all that,because that's your channel
shows.
It's not all that, yeah, yeah,no, that's one of the reasons
why I started my channel isbecause I got frustrated with
that that stereotype and yeah weare fairly flat, manitoba's
flatter and um, it's, it's.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
There's just a stereotype, you know, you can
watch your dog run away forthree days, things like that.
Um.
And there is aspects ofSaskatchewan like that Um.
But once you kind of startlearning the landscape and like,
for example, if you're drivingacross Saskatchewan, everybody
just kind of drives across, uhsay, like uh, the trans Canada
highway, and that's the onlyimpression that they get.
(03:22):
If you see hilly areas, thatmeans like when you think back
about 10,000 years I'm going offon a tangent here you think
about going back about 10,000years and the glaciers just kind
of receded.
If you see a flat area like areally, really flat area that
you're driving through andbasically that used to be lake
(03:43):
bottom, if you yeah, it's justif you see sometimes really
hilly areas, sometimes a glacierwould stop advancing and stop
receding and it would just kindof stay in one area and it would
just start dropping material.
So a place just north of yourbuffalo pound, if you're on the
south side of the buffalo pound,which is kind of a reservoir,
(04:03):
it's all really flat and it usedto be used to be a glacial lake
, and then north of buffalopound, which is kind of a
reservoir.
It's all really flat and it usedto be used to be a glacial lake
.
And then north of buffalo pound, um it's.
It's all really hilly andthat's where this terminal
moraine kind of kind of built upand then the actual capel
valley that runs all the way tomanitoba.
That used to be a big likebasically a big glacial river,
cut that.
So if you're traveling throughand just armed with a little bit
(04:26):
of knowledge, the landscapebecomes a lot more interesting
and you can actually see what's.
You know how, the how thelandscape changes and what used
to be there.
You know as far as, likeglaciation because it formed
everything obviously pretty muchin canada and then we actually
got an area um cypress hillsthat wasn't covered by
glaciation.
I think it was like one of theonly places in in Canada over
the last glaciation.
So the Wisconsin glaciation, so, but kind of like um, you know
(04:51):
Northern Saskatchewan, um, andjust being trees and shield,
like it's just like NorthernOntario.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Um, it's a, it's a little different.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Like we, we do have some different landscapes up
there.
You might've heard of that atthe Basque Sand Dunes.
Sand dunes, um, but um.
It's the reason why our flag insaskatchewan the bottom is gold
and the top is green is becausethe green represents the forest
of north and the goldrepresents, of course, the wheat
fields.
So more like canola fields now,but yeah, that's, that's kind of
(05:20):
how it rolls, and that's what Itry to highlight is you know,
we have, like that's half ofsaskatchewan, like all this, all
this, you know, uh, forestboreal forest, or you know,
canadian shield, um, you know,athabasca sand dunes, all these
different areas.
So it's it's.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
It's a lot more diverse than people and you're
talking how many hours likenorth, of say, saskatoon, oh,
geez, okay so if you're insaskatoon, um, you probably hit
the Boreal Edge, like not theBoreal Edge, the Precambrian
Edge.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
You probably hit it in about about five hours.
So if, even if you go north toLa Ronge or kind of east over to
Flin Flon, you probably hit thePrecambrian Edge in about five
hours so that's.
That's the only thing aboutsaskatchewan.
If you want to go paddlingsomewhere like up north, it's
good.
It's going to take you a whileto get here.
(06:12):
I live in moose jaw and thattakes me about seven hours just
to get to that pre-cambrian edge.
So there's, but saskatchewandriving is a lot different than
a lot of other places.
You hit cruise control and thenyou just watch the landscape go
by.
It's awesome.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Listen to a podcast while you're here.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah, oh, tons, tons, yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Cool.
So I suppose that I keepthinking seven hours, cause
that's like that's beyondSudbury for us.
So that's, we're starting toget pretty North from from
Southern Ontario.
I'm looking out the window Likeyou can see what we're in
Toronto here, Um, but it's likeright Like that's a.
(06:52):
So that's why you go out forseven days, 14 days, 24 days,
that kind of deal Right, yeah,yeah, that's exactly it.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
It's like if I'm going to go up there, I want to
want to make it worthwhilethere's, there's times when I go
on like a boys fishing trip orsomething like that for a long
weekend.
But you kind of want to go upon a long weekend.
You don't want to just say, hey, I got two, I got the weekend
and I'm going to go up, becauseyou just you drive all friday
evening and you be well,especially getting older, right,
like you're gonna wake up nextmorning.
It's like, oh, you're just gonnaroll over and go back to bed,
(07:24):
um, and then the next day, likeif you fish the second day like
I mean you gotta make that bigdrive back, and I've done that
before and that's a young man'sgame, that's that's not a game
that I want to play anymore soyeah, yeah yeah, no, but it's
like I said it's, it's adifferent driving, like if
you're going up to sudburyyou're probably going through a
lot of shield and stuff likethat, through Ontario right, and
uh, it's a lot, it's a lot morestressed.
(07:46):
So here it's to get to thatedge, it's, it's pretty easy
well, you're, you're a bigfisher person, so tell us about
fishing.
Oh, fisher person, yeah, sofishing is it's one of my very
first memories as a kid.
I remember sitting on my frontporch and I had some fishing rod
.
I think it was about frontporch and I had some fishing rod
.
I think it was about threeyears old.
(08:07):
I had a fishing rod.
I was pretending I was in aboat on the front porch and I
was, you know, hammeringwhatever.
I didn't even know what fishwere really at the time but,
I've always really wanted to doit.
So when I got older and I gotout, I developed a real big
passion for fishing, developed areal big passion for fishing.
And, um, my brother actually,he moved up to a uh, a reserve,
(08:32):
um kind of in the Flin Flon areaand he was teaching up there is
right in the Canadian shieldand, uh, the guys would take him
out fishing all the time.
And I got invited up and wewent out fishing and I just fell
absolutely in love with thatarea and it's kind of like an
East central.
Saskatchewan.
Um, I absolutely love that area.
It's probably I just have somany good memories associated
with it and, um, it's uh, Istarted looking at maps of that
(08:55):
area and I'm like hey well wowLike look at this I can?
I can go from this lake to thislake and this lake to this lake
and they would take us up tothis um area called uh second
medicine rapids.
It's kind of the way to go fromthe sturgeon weir river all the
way up to the churchill river.
It's like a historic uh canoeroute and uh, where the voyagers
(09:17):
would always go up on this, onthis canoe route, and uh it
you'd hit the first medicineRapids and uh, there's
pictographs and great fishingand you'd go to the second
medicine Rapids and just thefishing was unreal.
We just be like 14 cast, 14fish, that kind of
ridiculousness.
And uh, it just, it put the buginto me that I could get into
(09:40):
all these back lakes and that'swhere my drive to go canoeing
came from was I wanted betterfishing, and just that led to a
whole bunch of other things, sowell how so?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
how busy is I mean?
I've seen, I've seen some ofyour videos where it's like,
yeah, you know, I'm 12 days inand I just saw my first people.
So that's fabulous, that's,that's totally my, my jam is tim
likes that yeah, is it like?
What is the back country like?
There's plenty of times,especially in in more busier,
busier parks here, likealgonquin, where, yeah, you're
(10:17):
that it's pretty tough to go 12days and not run into people
yeah how does that, how doesthat compare to what you're
experiencing in Saskatchewan?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah, even if you go to the really populated, busy
areas like there is like, if so,if you guys know where La Ronge
is, kind of no Okay.
So if you know where PrinceAlbert is, yep.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Okay, Prince Albert.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
If you go to about I think it's's two, two and a half
hours north of prince albert,you hit a town called the branch
, and if you go about 80kilometers north of that a lot
of its gravel you hit a littletown called missinipi and that's
kind of where yeah, you guysknow where missinipi, is perfect
, churchill river canoeoutfitters, you know, do their
thing up there and uh, it'sright along the churchill river
(11:03):
and if you just go up the rapidsa little bit you get some
really, really amazingwhitewater canoeing and they
always have a whitewaterfestival every early july, so,
uh, highly recommend it.
I've never been on it, but I'vejust heard nothing but good
things from it.
But that area you're going torun into a lot of people and
it's actually camped out they'restarting to put in composting
(11:24):
toilets and stuff like that inthere, just because so many
people go to it.
It's such a beautiful area andthe white water is amazing.
Um, and that's going to be yourbusiest area.
And there's a few other areasaround Missinipi that you know,
there's the Ducker Loop.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
McLennan Lake.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
There's a whole bunch of canoeing in the McLennan
Lake area.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
And those are really busy areas Not.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Algonquin busy but they're busy.
Everything else is just wideopen, Like you might like
everything else is is justyou're not going to run into
people, especially if you do.
Um, you start building your ownroute.
So you just take a look atsatellite imagery you see if
(12:08):
there's a trap line or somethingthere or outfitters using it to
skidoo in and out in the winterto get to their, get to their
camp.
And if you build something likethat, the most you're going to
run into is fishermen Like.
I haven't popped across anothercanoeer.
I don't know how long it's beena really long time so yeah,
it's compared to like.
(12:29):
That's the thing is.
It's like compared to.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Algonquin, the only place I can maybe consider it to
be like.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
is that Missinipi area?
Just because like like I said,like everybody's, you know they
need composting toilets.
It's hard to find firewood atthe campsite.
You know things like that.
Um that that would be the onlyplace and it's such a small area
and it's saskatchewan such avast area to paddle, so yeah,
(12:54):
yeah, if you want to be alone.
Northern saskatchewan is theplace to be like honestly.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Sweet, yeah, yeah, the Boreal.
We just just did an interviewwith Stefan Kesting.
He, he, he's in BC now, but buthe did.
He did a whole thousandthousand mile trek through the
Boreal, the North, the North endof Saskatchewewan, and it was
(13:18):
just like sounded wild.
Uh rain, reindeer lake, yes, areindeer lake.
Uh, we, I, I happened to, waslooking at some of your stuff
today and it's like, well, wheredo I know that from?
He, he, that's a big body ofwater, man, it's huge and he
paddled through that yeah, it'shuge, yeah, so yeah even
Speaker 1 (13:38):
though yeah, even on that one I didn't see any other
canoeists.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
It was just, you know you, you get a lot of kayakers
on that lake because it's just,it's such a big body of water
and kayakers don't have toportage that right.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
So, um, fishing's great and the scenery is
beautiful sweet I will say I'msure that doesn't apply a
hundred percent of the time, butI'm totally jealous.
Watch, watching you portage.
Your stuff is flat man in thegrand scheme of things, cause
we're, we're like, right, your,your stuff is.
(14:09):
Is you know?
I mean sure You're, you'reissues with alders and you know
stepping into the muck and allthat sort of jazz, but you're
not high.
Yes, you do put it over yourhead, but you can also drag it
like you can't.
That's not even an option yeah,yeah so totally, totally jealous
, just saying that is nice it'suh, yeah, yeah, it's, it's.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Sometimes I think we're actually me and my
girlfriend were watching a canoevideo last night and, just
being an algonquin, it was justlike a yellow brick road.
The portage was just sostraight and so beautiful and
well-groomed and I'm just like,oh my God, what it's like,
what's it like to portage onsomething like that.
It's just amazing.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
There, there are some , there's some.
It's some scary.
The North end of canoe Lake itit's like a super highway it's,
it's flat, it's about four laneswide.
People go by with like coolers.
You know two wheel with withboxes of wine and stuff and
you're just kind of like what,uh, I'm sorry, where, where does
backcountry enter here?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
what are you talking about exactly?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
yeah, gotta get a few more lakes in yeah so do you
have a favorite of one of yourtrips that you've done so?
We keep going back to youbecause you enjoy it so much.
We're 18 favorites.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Yeah, yeah, it's uh you know what I don't usually
like canoeing the same water awhole heck of a lot.
Um, I find it kind of boringand repetitious.
But there's a few trips thatare really kind of close to my
heart that I go back to and it'sjust like I get there and it
feels like I'm home.
One of them is like actually Idid one last fall, I did a
little bit of video of it, but Ipaddled across Kingsmere Lake
(15:42):
to go do another trip.
But Kingsmere Lake, just it'sin Prince Albert National Park,
so about an hour north of PrinceAlbert, and it's one of two
national parks that we have inSaskatchewan and something about
it is just it's kind of likewhere, from the first, learn how
to j-stroke.
And I had a eureka moment.
I kind of did it on my own and,uh, I was just like, oh man,
(16:04):
this is so awesome.
You know we didn't have likethe coleman canoe that you know
you, you have to like you knowit's like paddling a tank we.
But we rented a decent canoe andI learned how to J stroke and
it was like it was amazing.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
And it's just, it's a big beautiful lake.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
with it's, it can get kind of a turquoise color to it
, just a little bit not likesome of the what is it?
Some of the lakes that you havein Clarny, nothing like that,
but it's still really big,beautiful and just off of that
you can protage into lake aujuanand gray house cabins there and
that's kind of his finalresting place.
(16:40):
So you can kind of go and dothat and then off to the side
there's a bagua loop, that'skind of part of the part and
parcel of kingsmere lake, andyou go through a series of small
lakes that have some prettygood walleye fishing and some,
you know, nice campsites youalways.
I usually hear wolves there, sothat's always kind of cool too.
Yeah, so that's one of them,and another one is actually I
(17:00):
did a trip it's called SallyLake S-H-A-L-I, and I do have
like some canoe videos on mychannel about Sally Lake and it
was kind of, I think, I think,my second effort of actually
trying to do a video, I think mysecond effort of actually
trying to do a video.
And the cool thing about thatarea is it's called, uh, it's
(17:20):
called the Pelican window.
It's kind of like the first timeI protaged into a lake and like
not the video itself, but thatwas one of the first lakes I
ever protaged into, and the coolthing about that lake is it's
actually the rock in it it'sthree billion years old and it's
really unique in Saskatchewanand it's just a little window of
(17:43):
pre-cambrian rock that's up andbasically all the rock that
fills around it is younger rockbecause of past volcanic
activity in the area.
So going in there the rock justlooks different.
There's some really dramaticlandscape in there for
Saskatchewanan and I don't knowit's it just does it for me.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I can go in there and I just feel like I'm at home
again, so I love that stuff youmentioned with with the
whitewater, is it fair to assumethat there are?
Do you?
Do you run into waterfalls andstuff like that?
Speaker 3 (18:16):
oh yeah, yeah, yeah, check out, um, hopefully next
year, if my body holds up,hopefully next year I can go
visit a place called hunt falls.
It's saskatchewan's biggestwaterfall.
It's pretty impressive.
It's not you know, uh.
For saskatchewan.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
It's pretty awesome, so, um, and by any standards, I
think it's pretty impressive soit's not breaking any records,
but it's very beautiful.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
And then one of the bucket list trips that we have
in Saskatchewan is to go toStanley Mission, which is just
south of Missinipi.
It's in between Missinipi andLa Ronge.
You start at Stanley Missionand one cool thing about that
trip is you get to seeSaskatchewan's oldest building,
which is a mission.
It's a church.
It's got stained glass windowsin the whole bed.
(19:01):
I don't even think there wasnails used in construction, if I
remember correctly, um, and youcan go visit that.
And then you basically go downthe churchill river and you get
to a place called the stoicfalls, which is basically a set
of falls that kind of run intothe church River.
There's a fishing lodge rightthere and stuff like that and
that's it's an easy trip.
There's some amazingpictographs along the way and
(19:24):
it's highly recommended.
It's not hard and it's verybeautiful, very scenic.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
So you'll see canoers on that one.
Do you do a lot of whitewater,Tyler?
No.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
That's why my channel is called puddle jumper is
because I scared I'm reallyscared of doing white water.
So I will do a class one, classtwo, especially with my new
canoe.
I've got, uh, caribou clipper.
Caribou s um s is for sexy andum it.
Uh, I can do a little bit ofwhite water on it.
(19:57):
Um, but my previous canoe therethe, the, uh Winona prism, that
had no rocker, it was flat andstraight and narrow and even if
I got on like boils and stufflike that, uh, like the water
was boiling up it felt like itwas going right into the drink.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
So it was like basically I always make the
analogy.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
It's like taking cross country skis and trying to
do downhill.
That's what it felt like.
So, yeah, I'm getting intowhitewater a little bit more
because I am going to behopefully, if everything goes
right, I'll be doing theporcupine river here this this
summer, which is kind ofSaskatchewan's preeminent
whitewater trip.
I'll probably be doing a lot ofportaging on it.
(20:36):
But, yeah, I'll have to suck itup and actually do some
whitewater.
So do you guys do whitewater?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
No.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Don't say no yet.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
We do a little more gentle backcountry.
We're reintroducing the younglady to back country.
Um, our eldest and I are tendto be the back country guys and
we're actually going to do, uh,may two, four weekend.
We're doing our, our intro towhitewater, oh cool, uh, up up
(21:13):
in Palmer Rapids with some, somefriends, so we will see what
happens.
We've got it.
We've got a trip on the spanishriver, uh, in the fall in
october.
So I figured I should probablyhave a slight clue about what
I'm doing yeah yeah, it's like.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I guess what freaks me out the most is about
whitewater is that I like I tookintro into whitewater like to
do class one and class twoactually up at missinipi, and it
was a fantastic course.
I absolutely loved it, learneda lot.
But uh, I guess I didn't ask alot of questions because
sometimes we'd stop and look atstuff I need point stuff out and
(21:50):
stuff like that.
But I I still have problemslooking at, you know, just
analyzing what I'm seeing andunderstanding what's going on
underneath the water.
So I always feel when I go intodoing whitewater is like am I
seeing what all I'm supposed tosee?
Like, if I'm, am I reading thatRight, my understanding what's
going on and what I should bedoing?
And I'm still, it's still kindof a big blank for me.
(22:13):
I wish, I wish, I need I needto take another course.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
quite honestly, big blank for me.
I wish, I wish, I need, I needto take another course, quite
honestly.
Well, that, and just racking uptime that's I mean again
talking to people who do it.
You know you put in the time.
Yeah, rack up some mileage onthere go.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Oh, that didn't play out yeah I missed that one right
and I'm usually solo yeah I'musually solo, I'm usually kind
of going and doing my own thing,so to have that group of people
to go with is it's rarity forme.
I am part of this group inRegina.
It's called RAPID, I think it's.
What does it stand for?
(22:45):
Regina Area Paddlinginterdependency.
I think that's what it is cooland it's a group and everybody
kind of does a presentation.
You know, with with, uh,different trips that they've
done over the summer.
They do a presentation, wedrink beer and eat wings and
those guys actually.
Hopefully, if it all works out,I can go with them and we hit
(23:06):
up this, uh, we'll hit up thisone river called the montreal
river and it's a great.
It flows up into la ro and it'sa great beginner of whitewater.
It's about class one, class two, um in the springtime and it's
supposed to be fantastic, um,and you can kind of shuttle back
and forth during the day andjust keep on running rapids.
So, hopefully, that works outand I get I, get my, get my
(23:28):
rapid or get my uh reps in yeah,cool that's.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
That would probably be a good, the shuttling back
and forth, rerunning the samething so that you can have
another look at what you ran andwhat you felt when you ran that
one.
All right, let's see what iswhat happens.
If I, if this is the look, thisis the you know the channel
through.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Sweet sweet.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Uh, all right, completely off topic.
What the hell's wrong with?
Speaker 3 (24:01):
you, what's with the maple leafs hat?
Oh yeah, you're telling me.
I think every maple leaf fankind of comes to that conclusion
, like what is going on?
Why am I cheering for this team?
Um it uh, my family, my, my dad, was a maple leafs fan way back
when there was original six.
Of course he cheered for themaple leafs um, and it just it
kind of rubbed off on me like itjust.
(24:21):
I guess the apple didn't fallfrom far from the tree, so
that's kind of and it's been aninfectious ever since and I
don't know.
It feels like I want to give upon the team, but uh, it's, it's
hard to quit.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
I'm finding it hard to quit yeah, I take it, you're
a montreal canadians fan.
I'm not an anything fan,hockey's not my thing but but
living here in toronto it's likewhy, why, what's wrong with you
?
It's not gonna happen.
You know it's not gonna happen.
It never happens.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
1963 or whatever, like come on I think it's like
the slot machine.
He's like okay, it hasn't paidout the last 99 times I've
pulled the handle.
This hundredth time it's gottapay it dang, nope, nope well the
most.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
The most frustrating thing is they do do good, so,
like during the regular seasonand then playoffs, they just
laugh for a better time.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
They ship it yeah and it's just, it's so frustrating.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
It's just like what just happened here.
Why is my team like not showingany gumption?
It's just then.
It makes it hard to root forhim.
It's like where's the passion?
Boys like come on like what'sgoing on?
And it's just they.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
They just seize up and then yeah and I mean, yeah,
I mean again not a hockey guy,but you watch things like you
know you got, yeah, that's theguy, he's going to do it, and
then, yeah, it's the crap, thebed thing.
It's like what happened, whatjust happened?
Speaker 3 (25:43):
I know, and there was so much hope when they got
Austin Matthews and Mitch Marnerand Nylander and all those guys
Tavares, and there was all thishope.
And it was just like you seethese guys just kind of slowly
wasting I don't want to saywasting their career by just
missing opportunities andmissing opportunities and it's
just like, oh god, that's gonnasuck so, and it's like time's
(26:05):
running out on those guys likethey're at their peak and it's
pretty soon it's gonna bedownhill.
So we'll see what happens.
I don't know.
Gotta have hope.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Gotta have hope also have to have a small fortune to
afford tickets.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Oh god, yeah, thank god I there's no way I buy
tickets for that team.
It's just, you don't even knowif they're going to show up that
night.
So you have no clue and it'slike to pay that much for
tickets.
It's just like no thanks, guys.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Well that's insane.
My I, we're talking this is acamping podcast.
We're talking about hockey.
My dad and I went.
My mom, my mom bought ustickets were a few years back
for father's day and we were upsort of halfway up and they were
400 bucks a ticket man I'm likethat's nuts.
Uh.
So it's the one and only leafgame I've ever been to wow yeah
(26:57):
was it?
Speaker 3 (26:57):
was it in the maple leaf gardens, or is it?
Yeah, okay, no, no no, it wasat uh scotiabank.
Who knows what it's called nowwhatever, yeah it's um.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
No, I've seen more concerts at Maple Leaf than I've
seen hockey games.
Okay, yeah, yeah, that's crazyAll right Back to camping.
All right Sorry.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
So you mentioned porcupine river.
Have you got other tripsplanned for the summer?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yeah, I got two trips planned.
The porcupine is going to takeme three weeks, so I only have a
certain amount of time off toget off of work.
So but I have another week toplay with and what I'll be doing
is going to East CentralSaskatchewan I don't know, it
just does it for me so kind oflike where that Sally Lake was,
(27:44):
kind of in the same vicinity.
There's, um, it's basicallyit's it's feeder, it's a feeder
area for the Sturgeon Weir Rivergoes down flows, down to the
saskatchewan river.
So the sturgeon weir just alittle background, was the link
between the saskatchewan riverand the churchill.
So if you can kind of picture itthere and it kind of runs, it
runs along the manitoba border.
(28:06):
Like it's on the, it's on thewest side of the manitoba border
, so in saskatchewan and thatarea in there is.
There's a bunch of historicaldocumented canaries that the
government of saskatchewan putout and there are a few
documented trips in that area,but there's so much more going
on in there.
So two things I want toaccomplish this spring is to go
(28:27):
in there for a week.
I'm going to a lake called KakaAgimak Lake, and it means the
lake is long apparently in Creteand the fishing in there is
amazing.
It's just every time I've gonein there, I've slayed fish and I
can't wait to get back.
But there's a couple ofoffshoots from that lake that
(28:52):
it's not not documented oranything like that, and I want
to build portage that whole area.
Actually if, if I get ambitiousenough, I would love to map it,
because there's not a lot ofinformation on it I'd love to
map it and get that out topeople.
Um, just that information.
So just where portages are,because it's really
underutilized like it's.
(29:12):
You're so close to civilizationbut no one goes in there unless
you're.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
You're one of the first nations up there who have
a cabin back there or you're anoutfitter.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
It's yeah, I've never met another canoer back there.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
It's.
It's awesome for such a shortdrive too, so that's one of my
shorter drives at seven hours.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
So when you get, somewhere like that.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
You just, you just park your vehicle somewhere.
Parking on the side of the roadis not not totally advised,
because people will come alongand mess with it in that area or
really in any area.
Uh, so what I usually do, uh isthere?
For example, on this trip I'mprobably going to be calling a
place called slim's cabins.
I'll phone up slim's, say, hey,can you shuttle me from here to
here and then pick me me up atthis time?
And they'll be like yep, sure,and they'll drop me off on that
(29:58):
on the river that I'm going tobe going up, and they'll pick me
up at a set time.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
So there's usually outfitters are really good.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
You can either park at them, or they'll even give
you a shuttle for free.
So that's kind of where you go.
There's not a lot of canoeing,specific outfitters other than,
like Missinipi, churchill Rivercanoe outfitters.
There's a few others, butthat's kind of the big game in
town and you're kind of relianton setting stuff up with
outfitters.
So for example, when I go upand do the Porcupine Plain, or
(30:30):
it's not Porcupine Plain.
There's a town called PorcupinePlain here in Saskatchewan.
But, if you go up to thePorcupine River, there's certain
outfitters or people that youcan talk to that will help you
out either give you a shuttle orwhatever.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
So you find out, you ask questions.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Like I said, churchill River Canoe Outfitters
is if you need to knowinformation on a lot of that
stuff up in way, northernsaskatchewan.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Um, they're the people to go to when they've
with no map necessarily go on,you just use your gps and just
use that to navigate around um,there are the yeah, there are go
trekker maps.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
So there are maps that you can buy that, uh,
former owner of churchill rivercan outfitters, who just changed
hands.
He used to be rick drediger andnow it's martin uh, rick's kid
uh, son, he took over kind oflike the the mapping side of
stuff like that.
He's no longer runningchurchill or helping him running
(31:26):
a churchill river canoeoutfitters apparently he's got
the mapping business.
So if you go on to go trek ormaps, um, uh and type in
saskatchewan or whatever and awhole bunch of stuff will come
out, uh, or come up and it listsprotages, at least white water
levels, uh, or like the you know, with the class one, class two
or whatever.
Uh shows protages and stufflike that and campsites, so um,
(31:51):
there are certain things you cango by.
But uh, the trip that I'm doing,going up to the porcupine river
, is I'm going to be goingacross black lake and then
there's a whole bunch ofundocumented stuff which I
basically print off, the old, um, the old topographic, canadian
topographic maps.
I mark it up, um, and uh, Ibasically look at satellite
(32:13):
imagery saying I can protagehere, I can camp possibly here,
and I mark it up and I go bythat, and usually a lot of times
what I'll do is, with theprotages that are unknown, I'll
print off satellite imagery justso I can see what I'm getting
into probably the best way toapproach it, because there's a
(32:34):
lot of times when I've pulled upto a place and I'm like oh man,
what's going on it?
Looks like it's supposed to behere and you know you start
searching through the bush andyou're like, no, that's not
gonna work.
So having that satellite imagery, it's just, it helps out.
So much, so yeah and then, butthe porcupine coming down, I'll
be using one of those GoTrekkermaps to come down and get back
to Black Lake.
(32:55):
It's basically what I'll bedoing.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Are you able to get more recent satellite imagery?
Like you know, if it's a, youknow Google Maps three years as
a general rule three years out,that portage is gone.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
There are.
You know what I heard?
Bing mapping is supposed to bea matter, somebody just told me
the other day.
Then google earth, it's gotmore, it's got more.
Uh yeah, up-to-date satelliteimagery.
There is a saskatchewan websitethat I go to.
It's a saskatchewan governmentwebsite and you can get a whole
(33:32):
bunch of stuff off that like youcan get burn history.
You can get, uh, what else?
Just what?
What fish are in what lakes?
Um, mining energy, like just awhole bunch of host of stuff.
You can actually go in and see,like, for example, on the on
the trip that I'm editing rightnow, uh, I can't, you know, come
by.
I came by a mining claim, sosomebody had a claim and they
were doing some exploration.
There's a bunch of flaggingtape and editing right now.
I came by a mining claim, sosomebody had a claim and they
(33:56):
were doing some exploration.
There's a bunch of flaggingtape and I was like what the
heck is this?
And you can actually go intothis Saskatchewan website and
actually find out who has theclaim on that area or what
company is actually doingsomething there.
So, yeah, and I can get fairlyup-to-date satellite imagery, so
you have a few to choose from.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
How about you guys Any?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
suggestions.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
No, I was just going to say that's, that's some giant
brain stuff Like to to figureout that.
That's cause I'd be.
I'd start with Google earth.
Yeah, we, I tend to.
We, we almost exclusively doprovincial parks simply because
there's so many of them, and Idon't have to think I can just
buy a map.
Bob's, my uncle and I'm off tothe races, like I don't have to.
(34:40):
Super easy for old guys.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Just maps that long.
Those are the ones that you useyeah.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, they've already done all the work.
They know how you know, knowhow long it's going to take to
go through there, what, whatkind of you know if you're going
to get into rapids or anythinglike that, where all the sites
are, etc.
Etc.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
So so that it removes the whole rocket science part
for me yeah, but how cool to belike the first one who ever went
through this area.
Sure area.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Sure.
Yeah, it's um, and another offtopic question Skittles.
What's that all about?
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Oh, you don't have any.
Yeah, it's Skittles, I don'tknow.
It just makes you happy.
It's just like this is amouthful of awesomeness and
they're bright and colorful,especially on a gloomy day, and
you're kind of looking at themand you're like, oh yeah, man,
it's freaking awesome.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
So yeah, it's just it , just it just kind of makes you
happy.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
It's like I like wearing Maui gym sunglasses with
the rose colored tint and itjust makes.
It brightens everything up andmakes everything just look so
much happier, especially onthose rainy yeah gross days.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
So yeah, it's awesome awesome anything to help you
out right like yep, I can seethat yeah, sponsorship
opportunities too, that's it I'mthe skittles guy I feel like I
want to try and get a sponsorfrom kfc yeah, that'd be all
(36:13):
right.
Yeah, get a sponsor fromsponsor from KFC and it.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Uh, I love going and eating their chicken after I go
on a big trip, because it's likeI feel like I'm eight, my
metabolism's like it's 18 againand it's like, all right, I can
handle a bucket now.
And we stop on the way back Iget KFC.
So if they can sponsor like acanoe or something like that,
for me I'll call it the Colonel.
It'll be red and white, It'llbe awesome.
So we'll see.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
No, no offers yet.
Yeah, that's fine, we'll, we'llmake sure we flag it for them.
We'll we'll hashtag KFC.
That's definitely a thing thatthe big kid and I, when we're
about two days away from endingthe trip, it's like oh yeah,
there's going to be a really,really, really good burger in
two days.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Yeah, oh, yeah.
Yeah, you're starving forcalories.
Your metabolism's up Likeyou're burning through calories,
like anything, especially whenyou get older, something like
that You're going to feel it forusually like just on a normal
day.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
You would eat it and then you regret for three days,
but when you get out of a canoetrip you go and eat it and it's
just like oh god you know, it'sjust no regrets.
No, not one regret give me allthe grease.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, yeah, I think I might have just wet myself yeah
, um, can you saskatchewan?
Speaker 3 (37:32):
I'd, it's about it.
You guys got to come and, uh,check it out.
If you ever have the time, ifyou're passing through, come up
to northern saskatchewan and uh,yeah paddle around I think
you'll, I think you'll bepleasantly surprised sounds
beautiful, it does and I I'vebeen telling you that your
portages I would.
I would take those in aheartbeat right, so a lot better
(37:53):
than what is it?
Uh, is it?
I can't remember?
Is it quetico, the diabloportage, or something like that?
Speaker 2 (38:00):
that's not the diablo .
Yeah, there was.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
There's like a diablo staircase and then there's
diablo portage or something Idon't know there's a bunch of
that and it's, and it's, it's aportage.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
After you've done you still have to go through like
so much deadfall that you canliterally walk on it, break an
ankle, but walk on it to get tothe portage.
And then it's, you know, veryclose to bushwhacking straight
up for days.
It's yeah, we've got somefriends that have done it.
(38:33):
They're like Never again.
Yeah Well, we've got somefriends that have done it.
They're like never again.
Yeah Well, that's, I've checkedthat one off.
I'm never doing that again.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Yeah, yeah, it's probably the worst portage that
I can think of off the top of myhead.
In Saskatchewan we got I thinkit's pronounced methyl, methyl
portage.
So it's going from theChurchill river to the oh, what
is it?
Clearwater.
And it's.
I think it's 18 kilometers longand it's.
It's old fur trade stuff.
(39:00):
Right, that's how he got up toClearwater.
To go up to what is it?
The McKenzie.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
I can't even remember .
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Basically, you get up to Lake Athabasca and you go
that route and, yeah, it's I.
I knew, I know a guy who Ithink was attempting it, but
then he hurt his knee and he hadto get carried out and not
carried out but rescued.
Yeah, it's, it's, I've wantedto do it but I'm getting a
little little gray in the beard,so it's like now.
(39:29):
Now it just doesn't seemappealing at all.
It just sounds like a lot ofpain and I'm just trying to
avoid that 18 kilometers isn't aportage, that's hiking.
Yeah, your canoe trip turns intoa hiking trip for sure.
Yeah, no, thank you.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Nope, okay, all right .
Speaker 1 (39:46):
All right, that's it for us for today.
Thank you so much to ourspecial guest, tyler Chilabecki
from the YouTube channel PuddleJumper.
Please do check him out.
Check us out on YouTube whileyou're there and check us out on
all the social media.
If you'd like, you could emailus anytime at hi at
supergoodcampaigncom.
That's hi atsupergoodcampaigncom, and we'll
talk to you again soon.
Bye.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Bye.
Hello and good day.
Welcome to the Super GoodCamping podcast.
My name is Pamela.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm Tim.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
And we are from supergoodcampingcom.
We're here because we're on amission to inspire other people
to get outside and enjoy campingadventures such as we have as a
family.
Today's guest is part of ourcontinuing quest to have guests
from every province andterritory on the podcast.
At some point he spends some ofhis free time solo paddling the
back country in Saskatchewan,and often filming it.
His trips last anywhere from afew days to the better part of a
(00:27):
month, and always involvefishing.
Please welcome Tyler Chilabeckifrom the YouTube channel Puddle
Jumper.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Hey guys.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Welcome Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
What's up?
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Good Adjusting to the time.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Sunday and, yeah, daylight savings time.
Yeah, lost an hour, which youguys don't do, right?
Yeah, let's just keep goingalong.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
You know it's kind of funny.
I don't know why people don'tmove away from the daylight
savings time, like Alberta, Ithink, voted on it a couple
years ago and it decided to keepthe daylight savings.
And it's like in Saskatchewan.
We're looking at everybody elsegoing oh, you guys are just
outrageous.
Like what are you guys doing?
Because it's awesome.
You never, you never, have toworry about it.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
So the world changes around you yeah, well, you seven
million clocks later goingaround resetting everything too,
and then you have to.
It's like oh, I do this twice ayear on my watch.
What buttons do I have to push?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
yeah, I know that feeling yeah all right, cool.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
So you're from saskatchewan.
It looks to me like you do.
If not all of your paddling insaskatchewan, certainly the
majority of it.
Do you ever get outside of theprovince at all?
Speaker 3 (01:36):
um, you know what?
There was a time there's a timewhere I actually lived up in
red lake ontario, so that thatwas pretty awesome.
It was only for about a yearand I took full advantage of
having that big wilderness parkthere.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
And there was actually a ton of other stuff
there.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
That was just you go down some logging roads and yeah
, you just you hear about aroute and you just kind of go
into the back country and justand just do it up.
So yeah, it's a I try to takestay Saskatchewan specific just
for my channel, because there'sjust so much to explore here.
I mean, you guys kind of justcall it Crownland and we just
(02:11):
kind of call it going out in thebush, because we don't really
have any designated, designatedpaddle parks here like you guys
have in Ontario.
So, yeah, it's, if there's somuch to explore here and so much
that's undocumented.
That's where I kind of try andkeep my focus with.
My channel is trying todocument all these different
routes that no one really knowsabout.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
So I absolutely love doing that and it just, yeah,
just to explore.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Like it's, it's, it's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
It's a frame of reference wise.
Everyone thinks of, likeSaskatchewan flat prairies wheat
.
Obviously, it's not all that,because that's your channel
shows.
It's not all that, yeah, yeah,no, that's one of the reasons
why I started my channel isbecause I got frustrated with
that that stereotype and yeah weare fairly flat, manitoba's
flatter and um, it's, it's.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
There's just a stereotype, you know, you can
watch your dog run away forthree days, things like that.
Um.
And there is aspects ofSaskatchewan like that Um.
But once you kind of startlearning the landscape and like,
for example, if you're drivingacross Saskatchewan, everybody
just kind of drives across, uhsay, like uh, the trans Canada
highway, and that's the onlyimpression that they get.
(03:22):
If you see hilly areas, thatmeans like when you think back
about 10,000 years I'm going offon a tangent here you think
about going back about 10,000years and the glaciers just kind
of receded.
If you see a flat area like areally, really flat area that
you're driving through andbasically that used to be lake
(03:43):
bottom, if you yeah, it's justif you see sometimes really
hilly areas, sometimes a glacierwould stop advancing and stop
receding and it would just kindof stay in one area and it would
just start dropping material.
So a place just north of yourbuffalo pound, if you're on the
south side of the buffalo pound,which is kind of a reservoir,
(04:03):
it's all really flat and it usedto be used to be a glacial lake
, and then north of buffalopound, which is kind of a
reservoir.
It's all really flat and it usedto be used to be a glacial lake
.
And then north of buffalo pound, um it's.
It's all really hilly andthat's where this terminal
moraine kind of kind of built upand then the actual capel
valley that runs all the way tomanitoba.
That used to be a big likebasically a big glacial river,
cut that.
So if you're traveling throughand just armed with a little bit
(04:26):
of knowledge, the landscapebecomes a lot more interesting
and you can actually see what's.
You know how, the how thelandscape changes and what used
to be there.
You know as far as, likeglaciation because it formed
everything obviously pretty muchin canada and then we actually
got an area um cypress hillsthat wasn't covered by
glaciation.
I think it was like one of theonly places in in Canada over
the last glaciation.
So the Wisconsin glaciation, so, but kind of like um, you know
(04:51):
Northern Saskatchewan, um, andjust being trees and shield,
like it's just like NorthernOntario.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Um, it's a, it's a little different.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Like we, we do have some different landscapes up
there.
You might've heard of that atthe Basque Sand Dunes.
Sand dunes, um, but um.
It's the reason why our flag insaskatchewan the bottom is gold
and the top is green is becausethe green represents the forest
of north and the goldrepresents, of course, the wheat
fields.
So more like canola fields now,but yeah, that's, that's kind of
(05:20):
how it rolls, and that's what Itry to highlight is you know,
we have, like that's half ofsaskatchewan, like all this, all
this, you know, uh, forestboreal forest, or you know,
canadian shield, um, you know,athabasca sand dunes, all these
different areas.
So it's it's.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
It's a lot more diverse than people and you're
talking how many hours likenorth, of say, saskatoon, oh,
geez, okay so if you're insaskatoon, um, you probably hit
the Boreal Edge, like not theBoreal Edge, the Precambrian
Edge.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
You probably hit it in about about five hours.
So if, even if you go north toLa Ronge or kind of east over to
Flin Flon, you probably hit thePrecambrian Edge in about five
hours so that's.
That's the only thing aboutsaskatchewan.
If you want to go paddlingsomewhere like up north, it's
good.
It's going to take you a whileto get here.
(06:12):
I live in moose jaw and thattakes me about seven hours just
to get to that pre-cambrian edge.
So there's, but saskatchewandriving is a lot different than
a lot of other places.
You hit cruise control and thenyou just watch the landscape go
by.
It's awesome.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Listen to a podcast while you're here.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Yeah, oh, tons, tons, yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Cool.
So I suppose that I keepthinking seven hours, cause
that's like that's beyondSudbury for us.
So that's, we're starting toget pretty North from from
Southern Ontario.
I'm looking out the window Likeyou can see what we're in
Toronto here, Um, but it's likeright Like that's a.
(06:52):
So that's why you go out forseven days, 14 days, 24 days,
that kind of deal Right, yeah,yeah, that's exactly it.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
It's like if I'm going to go up there, I want to
want to make it worthwhilethere's, there's times when I go
on like a boys fishing trip orsomething like that for a long
weekend.
But you kind of want to go upon a long weekend.
You don't want to just say, hey, I got two, I got the weekend
and I'm going to go up, becauseyou just you drive all friday
evening and you be well,especially getting older, right,
like you're gonna wake up nextmorning.
It's like, oh, you're just gonnaroll over and go back to bed,
(07:24):
um, and then the next day, likeif you fish the second day like
I mean you gotta make that bigdrive back, and I've done that
before and that's a young man'sgame, that's that's not a game
that I want to play anymore soyeah, yeah yeah, no, but it's
like I said it's, it's adifferent driving, like if
you're going up to sudburyyou're probably going through a
lot of shield and stuff likethat, through Ontario right, and
uh, it's a lot, it's a lot morestressed.
(07:46):
So here it's to get to thatedge, it's, it's pretty easy
well, you're, you're a bigfisher person, so tell us about
fishing.
Oh, fisher person, yeah, sofishing is it's one of my very
first memories as a kid.
I remember sitting on my frontporch and I had some fishing rod
.
I think it was about frontporch and I had some fishing rod
.
I think it was about threeyears old.
(08:07):
I had a fishing rod.
I was pretending I was in aboat on the front porch and I
was, you know, hammeringwhatever.
I didn't even know what fishwere really at the time but,
I've always really wanted to doit.
So when I got older and I gotout, I developed a real big
passion for fishing, developed areal big passion for fishing.
And, um, my brother actually,he moved up to a uh, a reserve,
(08:32):
um kind of in the Flin Flon areaand he was teaching up there is
right in the Canadian shieldand, uh, the guys would take him
out fishing all the time.
And I got invited up and wewent out fishing and I just fell
absolutely in love with thatarea and it's kind of like an
East central.
Saskatchewan.
Um, I absolutely love that area.
It's probably I just have somany good memories associated
with it and, um, it's uh, Istarted looking at maps of that
(08:55):
area and I'm like hey well wowLike look at this I can?
I can go from this lake to thislake and this lake to this lake
and they would take us up tothis um area called uh second
medicine rapids.
It's kind of the way to go fromthe sturgeon weir river all the
way up to the churchill river.
It's like a historic uh canoeroute and uh, where the voyagers
(09:17):
would always go up on this, onthis canoe route, and uh it
you'd hit the first medicineRapids and uh, there's
pictographs and great fishingand you'd go to the second
medicine Rapids and just thefishing was unreal.
We just be like 14 cast, 14fish, that kind of
ridiculousness.
And uh, it just, it put the buginto me that I could get into
(09:40):
all these back lakes and that'swhere my drive to go canoeing
came from was I wanted betterfishing, and just that led to a
whole bunch of other things, sowell how so?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
how busy is I mean?
I've seen, I've seen some ofyour videos where it's like,
yeah, you know, I'm 12 days inand I just saw my first people.
So that's fabulous, that's,that's totally my, my jam is tim
likes that yeah, is it like?
What is the back country like?
There's plenty of times,especially in in more busier,
busier parks here, likealgonquin, where, yeah, you're
(10:17):
that it's pretty tough to go 12days and not run into people
yeah how does that, how doesthat compare to what you're
experiencing in Saskatchewan?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah, even if you go to the really populated, busy
areas like there is like, if so,if you guys know where La Ronge
is, kind of no Okay.
So if you know where PrinceAlbert is, yep.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Okay, Prince Albert.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
If you go to about I think it's's two, two and a half
hours north of prince albert,you hit a town called the branch
, and if you go about 80kilometers north of that a lot
of its gravel you hit a littletown called missinipi and that's
kind of where yeah, you guysknow where missinipi, is perfect
, churchill river canoeoutfitters, you know, do their
thing up there and uh, it'sright along the churchill river
(11:03):
and if you just go up the rapidsa little bit you get some
really, really amazingwhitewater canoeing and they
always have a whitewaterfestival every early july, so,
uh, highly recommend it.
I've never been on it, but I'vejust heard nothing but good
things from it.
But that area you're going torun into a lot of people and
it's actually camped out they'restarting to put in composting
(11:24):
toilets and stuff like that inthere, just because so many
people go to it.
It's such a beautiful area andthe white water is amazing.
Um, and that's going to be yourbusiest area.
And there's a few other areasaround Missinipi that you know,
there's the Ducker Loop.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
McLennan Lake.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
There's a whole bunch of canoeing in the McLennan
Lake area.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
And those are really busy areas Not.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Algonquin busy but they're busy.
Everything else is just wideopen, Like you might like
everything else is is justyou're not going to run into
people, especially if you do.
Um, you start building your ownroute.
So you just take a look atsatellite imagery you see if
(12:08):
there's a trap line or somethingthere or outfitters using it to
skidoo in and out in the winterto get to their, get to their
camp.
And if you build something likethat, the most you're going to
run into is fishermen Like.
I haven't popped across anothercanoeer.
I don't know how long it's beena really long time so yeah,
it's compared to like.
(12:29):
That's the thing is.
It's like compared to.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Algonquin, the only place I can maybe consider it to
be like.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
is that Missinipi area?
Just because like like I said,like everybody's, you know they
need composting toilets.
It's hard to find firewood atthe campsite.
You know things like that.
Um that that would be the onlyplace and it's such a small area
and it's saskatchewan such avast area to paddle, so yeah,
(12:54):
yeah, if you want to be alone.
Northern saskatchewan is theplace to be like honestly.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Sweet, yeah, yeah, the Boreal.
We just just did an interviewwith Stefan Kesting.
He, he, he's in BC now, but buthe did.
He did a whole thousandthousand mile trek through the
Boreal, the North, the North endof Saskatchewewan, and it was
(13:18):
just like sounded wild.
Uh rain, reindeer lake, yes, areindeer lake.
Uh, we, I, I happened to, waslooking at some of your stuff
today and it's like, well, wheredo I know that from?
He, he, that's a big body ofwater, man, it's huge and he
paddled through that yeah, it'shuge, yeah, so yeah even
Speaker 1 (13:38):
though yeah, even on that one I didn't see any other
canoeists.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
It was just, you know you, you get a lot of kayakers
on that lake because it's just,it's such a big body of water
and kayakers don't have toportage that right.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
So, um, fishing's great and the scenery is
beautiful sweet I will say I'msure that doesn't apply a
hundred percent of the time, butI'm totally jealous.
Watch, watching you portage.
Your stuff is flat man in thegrand scheme of things, cause
we're, we're like, right, your,your stuff is.
(14:09):
Is you know?
I mean sure You're, you'reissues with alders and you know
stepping into the muck and allthat sort of jazz, but you're
not high.
Yes, you do put it over yourhead, but you can also drag it
like you can't.
That's not even an option yeah,yeah so totally, totally jealous
, just saying that is nice it'suh, yeah, yeah, it's, it's.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Sometimes I think we're actually me and my
girlfriend were watching a canoevideo last night and, just
being an algonquin, it was justlike a yellow brick road.
The portage was just sostraight and so beautiful and
well-groomed and I'm just like,oh my God, what it's like,
what's it like to portage onsomething like that.
It's just amazing.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
There, there are some , there's some.
It's some scary.
The North end of canoe Lake itit's like a super highway it's,
it's flat, it's about four laneswide.
People go by with like coolers.
You know two wheel with withboxes of wine and stuff and
you're just kind of like what,uh, I'm sorry, where, where does
backcountry enter here?
Speaker 3 (15:08):
what are you talking about exactly?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
yeah, gotta get a few more lakes in yeah so do you
have a favorite of one of yourtrips that you've done so?
We keep going back to youbecause you enjoy it so much.
We're 18 favorites.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Yeah, yeah, it's uh you know what I don't usually
like canoeing the same water awhole heck of a lot.
Um, I find it kind of boringand repetitious.
But there's a few trips thatare really kind of close to my
heart that I go back to and it'sjust like I get there and it
feels like I'm home.
One of them is like actually Idid one last fall, I did a
little bit of video of it, but Ipaddled across Kingsmere Lake
(15:42):
to go do another trip.
But Kingsmere Lake, just it'sin Prince Albert National Park,
so about an hour north of PrinceAlbert, and it's one of two
national parks that we have inSaskatchewan and something about
it is just it's kind of likewhere, from the first, learn how
to j-stroke.
And I had a eureka moment.
I kind of did it on my own and,uh, I was just like, oh man,
(16:04):
this is so awesome.
You know we didn't have likethe coleman canoe that you know
you, you have to like you knowit's like paddling a tank we.
But we rented a decent canoe andI learned how to J stroke and
it was like it was amazing.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
And it's just, it's a big beautiful lake.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
with it's, it can get kind of a turquoise color to it
, just a little bit not likesome of the what is it?
Some of the lakes that you havein Clarny, nothing like that,
but it's still really big,beautiful and just off of that
you can protage into lake aujuanand gray house cabins there and
that's kind of his finalresting place.
(16:40):
So you can kind of go and dothat and then off to the side
there's a bagua loop, that'skind of part of the part and
parcel of kingsmere lake, andyou go through a series of small
lakes that have some prettygood walleye fishing and some,
you know, nice campsites youalways.
I usually hear wolves there, sothat's always kind of cool too.
Yeah, so that's one of them,and another one is actually I
(17:00):
did a trip it's called SallyLake S-H-A-L-I, and I do have
like some canoe videos on mychannel about Sally Lake and it
was kind of, I think, I think,my second effort of actually
trying to do a video, I think mysecond effort of actually
trying to do a video.
And the cool thing about thatarea is it's called, uh, it's
(17:20):
called the Pelican window.
It's kind of like the first timeI protaged into a lake and like
not the video itself, but thatwas one of the first lakes I
ever protaged into, and the coolthing about that lake is it's
actually the rock in it it'sthree billion years old and it's
really unique in Saskatchewanand it's just a little window of
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pre-cambrian rock that's up andbasically all the rock that
fills around it is younger rockbecause of past volcanic
activity in the area.
So going in there the rock justlooks different.
There's some really dramaticlandscape in there for
Saskatchewanan and I don't knowit's it just does it for me.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I can go in there and I just feel like I'm at home
again, so I love that stuff youmentioned with with the
whitewater, is it fair to assumethat there are?
Do you?
Do you run into waterfalls andstuff like that?
Speaker 3 (18:16):
oh yeah, yeah, yeah, check out, um, hopefully next
year, if my body holds up,hopefully next year I can go
visit a place called hunt falls.
It's saskatchewan's biggestwaterfall.
It's pretty impressive.
It's not you know, uh.
For saskatchewan.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
It's pretty awesome, so, um, and by any standards, I
think it's pretty impressive soit's not breaking any records,
but it's very beautiful.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
And then one of the bucket list trips that we have
in Saskatchewan is to go toStanley Mission, which is just
south of Missinipi.
It's in between Missinipi andLa Ronge.
You start at Stanley Missionand one cool thing about that
trip is you get to seeSaskatchewan's oldest building,
which is a mission.
It's a church.
It's got stained glass windowsin the whole bed.
(19:01):
I don't even think there wasnails used in construction, if I
remember correctly, um, and youcan go visit that.
And then you basically go downthe churchill river and you get
to a place called the stoicfalls, which is basically a set
of falls that kind of run intothe church River.
There's a fishing lodge rightthere and stuff like that and
that's it's an easy trip.
There's some amazingpictographs along the way and
(19:24):
it's highly recommended.
It's not hard and it's verybeautiful, very scenic.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
So you'll see canoers on that one.
Do you do a lot of whitewater,Tyler?
No.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
That's why my channel is called puddle jumper is
because I scared I'm reallyscared of doing white water.
So I will do a class one, classtwo, especially with my new
canoe.
I've got, uh, caribou clipper.
Caribou s um s is for sexy andum it.
Uh, I can do a little bit ofwhite water on it.
(19:57):
Um, but my previous canoe therethe, the, uh Winona prism, that
had no rocker, it was flat andstraight and narrow and even if
I got on like boils and stufflike that, uh, like the water
was boiling up it felt like itwas going right into the drink.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
So it was like basically I always make the
analogy.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
It's like taking cross country skis and trying to
do downhill.
That's what it felt like.
So, yeah, I'm getting intowhitewater a little bit more
because I am going to behopefully, if everything goes
right, I'll be doing theporcupine river here this this
summer, which is kind ofSaskatchewan's preeminent
whitewater trip.
I'll probably be doing a lot ofportaging on it.
(20:36):
But, yeah, I'll have to suck itup and actually do some
whitewater.
So do you guys do whitewater?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
No.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Don't say no yet.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
We do a little more gentle backcountry.
We're reintroducing the younglady to back country.
Um, our eldest and I are tendto be the back country guys and
we're actually going to do, uh,may two, four weekend.
We're doing our, our intro towhitewater, oh cool, uh, up up
(21:13):
in Palmer Rapids with some, somefriends, so we will see what
happens.
We've got it.
We've got a trip on the spanishriver, uh, in the fall in
october.
So I figured I should probablyhave a slight clue about what
I'm doing yeah yeah, it's like.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I guess what freaks me out the most is about
whitewater is that I like I tookintro into whitewater like to
do class one and class twoactually up at missinipi, and it
was a fantastic course.
I absolutely loved it, learneda lot.
But uh, I guess I didn't ask alot of questions because
sometimes we'd stop and look atstuff I need point stuff out and
(21:50):
stuff like that.
But I I still have problemslooking at, you know, just
analyzing what I'm seeing andunderstanding what's going on
underneath the water.
So I always feel when I go intodoing whitewater is like am I
seeing what all I'm supposed tosee?
Like, if I'm, am I reading thatRight, my understanding what's
going on and what I should bedoing?
And I'm still, it's still kindof a big blank for me.
(22:13):
I wish, I wish, I need I needto take another course.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
quite honestly, big blank for me.
I wish, I wish, I need, I needto take another course, quite
honestly.
Well, that, and just racking uptime that's I mean again
talking to people who do it.
You know you put in the time.
Yeah, rack up some mileage onthere go.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Oh, that didn't play out yeah I missed that one right
and I'm usually solo yeah I'musually solo, I'm usually kind
of going and doing my own thing,so to have that group of people
to go with is it's rarity forme.
I am part of this group inRegina.
It's called RAPID, I think it's.
What does it stand for?
(22:45):
Regina Area Paddlinginterdependency.
I think that's what it is cooland it's a group and everybody
kind of does a presentation.
You know, with with, uh,different trips that they've
done over the summer.
They do a presentation, wedrink beer and eat wings and
those guys actually.
Hopefully, if it all works out,I can go with them and we hit
(23:06):
up this, uh, we'll hit up thisone river called the montreal
river and it's a great.
It flows up into la ro and it'sa great beginner of whitewater.
It's about class one, class two, um in the springtime and it's
supposed to be fantastic, um,and you can kind of shuttle back
and forth during the day andjust keep on running rapids.
So, hopefully, that works outand I get I, get my, get my
(23:28):
rapid or get my uh reps in yeah,cool that's.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
That would probably be a good, the shuttling back
and forth, rerunning the samething so that you can have
another look at what you ran andwhat you felt when you ran that
one.
All right, let's see what iswhat happens.
If I, if this is the look, thisis the you know the channel
through.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Sweet sweet.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Uh, all right, completely off topic.
What the hell's wrong with?
Speaker 3 (24:01):
you, what's with the maple leafs hat?
Oh yeah, you're telling me.
I think every maple leaf fankind of comes to that conclusion
, like what is going on?
Why am I cheering for this team?
Um it uh, my family, my, my dad, was a maple leafs fan way back
when there was original six.
Of course he cheered for themaple leafs um, and it just it
kind of rubbed off on me like itjust.
(24:21):
I guess the apple didn't fallfrom far from the tree, so
that's kind of and it's been aninfectious ever since and I
don't know.
It feels like I want to give upon the team, but uh, it's, it's
hard to quit.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
I'm finding it hard to quit yeah, I take it, you're
a montreal canadians fan.
I'm not an anything fan,hockey's not my thing but but
living here in toronto it's likewhy, why, what's wrong with you
?
It's not gonna happen.
You know it's not gonna happen.
It never happens.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
1963 or whatever, like come on I think it's like
the slot machine.
He's like okay, it hasn't paidout the last 99 times I've
pulled the handle.
This hundredth time it's gottapay it dang, nope, nope well the
most.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
The most frustrating thing is they do do good, so,
like during the regular seasonand then playoffs, they just
laugh for a better time.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
They ship it yeah and it's just, it's so frustrating.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
It's just like what just happened here.
Why is my team like not showingany gumption?
It's just then.
It makes it hard to root forhim.
It's like where's the passion?
Boys like come on like what'sgoing on?
And it's just they.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
They just seize up and then yeah and I mean, yeah,
I mean again not a hockey guy,but you watch things like you
know you got, yeah, that's theguy, he's going to do it, and
then, yeah, it's the crap, thebed thing.
It's like what happened, whatjust happened?
Speaker 3 (25:43):
I know, and there was so much hope when they got
Austin Matthews and Mitch Marnerand Nylander and all those guys
Tavares, and there was all thishope.
And it was just like you seethese guys just kind of slowly
wasting I don't want to saywasting their career by just
missing opportunities andmissing opportunities and it's
just like, oh god, that's gonnasuck so, and it's like time's
(26:05):
running out on those guys likethey're at their peak and it's
pretty soon it's gonna bedownhill.
So we'll see what happens.
I don't know.
Gotta have hope.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Gotta have hope also have to have a small fortune to
afford tickets.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Oh god, yeah, thank god I there's no way I buy
tickets for that team.
It's just, you don't even knowif they're going to show up that
night.
So you have no clue and it'slike to pay that much for
tickets.
It's just like no thanks, guys.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Well that's insane.
My I, we're talking this is acamping podcast.
We're talking about hockey.
My dad and I went.
My mom, my mom bought ustickets were a few years back
for father's day and we were upsort of halfway up and they were
400 bucks a ticket man I'm likethat's nuts.
Uh.
So it's the one and only leafgame I've ever been to wow yeah
(26:57):
was it?
Speaker 3 (26:57):
was it in the maple leaf gardens, or is it?
Yeah, okay, no, no no, it wasat uh scotiabank.
Who knows what it's called nowwhatever, yeah it's um.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
No, I've seen more concerts at Maple Leaf than I've
seen hockey games.
Okay, yeah, yeah, that's crazyAll right Back to camping.
All right Sorry.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
So you mentioned porcupine river.
Have you got other tripsplanned for the summer?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yeah, I got two trips planned.
The porcupine is going to takeme three weeks, so I only have a
certain amount of time off toget off of work.
So but I have another week toplay with and what I'll be doing
is going to East CentralSaskatchewan I don't know, it
just does it for me so kind oflike where that Sally Lake was,
(27:44):
kind of in the same vicinity.
There's, um, it's basicallyit's it's feeder, it's a feeder
area for the Sturgeon Weir Rivergoes down flows, down to the
saskatchewan river.
So the sturgeon weir just alittle background, was the link
between the saskatchewan riverand the churchill.
So if you can kind of picture itthere and it kind of runs, it
runs along the manitoba border.
(28:06):
Like it's on the, it's on thewest side of the manitoba border
, so in saskatchewan and thatarea in there is.
There's a bunch of historicaldocumented canaries that the
government of saskatchewan putout and there are a few
documented trips in that area,but there's so much more going
on in there.
So two things I want toaccomplish this spring is to go
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in there for a week.
I'm going to a lake called KakaAgimak Lake, and it means the
lake is long apparently in Creteand the fishing in there is
amazing.
It's just every time I've gonein there, I've slayed fish and I
can't wait to get back.
But there's a couple ofoffshoots from that lake that
(28:52):
it's not not documented oranything like that, and I want
to build portage that whole area.
Actually if, if I get ambitiousenough, I would love to map it,
because there's not a lot ofinformation on it I'd love to
map it and get that out topeople.
Um, just that information.
So just where portages are,because it's really
underutilized like it's.
(29:12):
You're so close to civilizationbut no one goes in there unless
you're.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
You're one of the first nations up there who have
a cabin back there or you're anoutfitter.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
It's yeah, I've never met another canoer back there.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
It's.
It's awesome for such a shortdrive too, so that's one of my
shorter drives at seven hours.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
So when you get, somewhere like that.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
You just, you just park your vehicle somewhere.
Parking on the side of the roadis not not totally advised,
because people will come alongand mess with it in that area or
really in any area.
Uh, so what I usually do, uh isthere?
For example, on this trip I'mprobably going to be calling a
place called slim's cabins.
I'll phone up slim's, say, hey,can you shuttle me from here to
here and then pick me me up atthis time?
And they'll be like yep, sure,and they'll drop me off on that
(29:58):
on the river that I'm going tobe going up, and they'll pick me
up at a set time.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
So there's usually outfitters are really good.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
You can either park at them, or they'll even give
you a shuttle for free.
So that's kind of where you go.
There's not a lot of canoeing,specific outfitters other than,
like Missinipi, churchill Rivercanoe outfitters.
There's a few others, butthat's kind of the big game in
town and you're kind of relianton setting stuff up with
outfitters.
So for example, when I go upand do the Porcupine Plain, or
(30:30):
it's not Porcupine Plain.
There's a town called PorcupinePlain here in Saskatchewan.
But, if you go up to thePorcupine River, there's certain
outfitters or people that youcan talk to that will help you
out either give you a shuttle orwhatever.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
So you find out, you ask questions.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Like I said, churchill River Canoe Outfitters
is if you need to knowinformation on a lot of that
stuff up in way, northernsaskatchewan.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Um, they're the people to go to when they've
with no map necessarily go on,you just use your gps and just
use that to navigate around um,there are the yeah, there are go
trekker maps.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
So there are maps that you can buy that, uh,
former owner of churchill rivercan outfitters, who just changed
hands.
He used to be rick drediger andnow it's martin uh, rick's kid
uh, son, he took over kind oflike the the mapping side of
stuff like that.
He's no longer runningchurchill or helping him running
(31:26):
a churchill river canoeoutfitters apparently he's got
the mapping business.
So if you go on to go trek ormaps, um, uh and type in
saskatchewan or whatever and awhole bunch of stuff will come
out, uh, or come up and it listsprotages, at least white water
levels, uh, or like the you know, with the class one, class two
or whatever.
Uh shows protages and stufflike that and campsites, so um,
(31:51):
there are certain things you cango by.
But uh, the trip that I'm doing,going up to the porcupine river
, is I'm going to be goingacross black lake and then
there's a whole bunch ofundocumented stuff which I
basically print off, the old, um, the old topographic, canadian
topographic maps.
I mark it up, um, and uh, Ibasically look at satellite
(32:13):
imagery saying I can protagehere, I can camp possibly here,
and I mark it up and I go bythat, and usually a lot of times
what I'll do is, with theprotages that are unknown, I'll
print off satellite imagery justso I can see what I'm getting
into probably the best way toapproach it, because there's a
(32:34):
lot of times when I've pulled upto a place and I'm like oh man,
what's going on it?
Looks like it's supposed to behere and you know you start
searching through the bush andyou're like, no, that's not
gonna work.
So having that satellite imagery, it's just, it helps out.
So much, so yeah and then, butthe porcupine coming down, I'll
be using one of those GoTrekkermaps to come down and get back
to Black Lake.
(32:55):
It's basically what I'll bedoing.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Are you able to get more recent satellite imagery?
Like you know, if it's a, youknow Google Maps three years as
a general rule three years out,that portage is gone.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
There are.
You know what I heard?
Bing mapping is supposed to bea matter, somebody just told me
the other day.
Then google earth, it's gotmore, it's got more.
Uh yeah, up-to-date satelliteimagery.
There is a saskatchewan websitethat I go to.
It's a saskatchewan governmentwebsite and you can get a whole
(33:32):
bunch of stuff off that like youcan get burn history.
You can get, uh, what else?
Just what?
What fish are in what lakes?
Um, mining energy, like just awhole bunch of host of stuff.
You can actually go in and see,like, for example, on the on
the trip that I'm editing rightnow, uh, I can't, you know, come
by.
I came by a mining claim, sosomebody had a claim and they
were doing some exploration.
There's a bunch of flaggingtape and editing right now.
I came by a mining claim, sosomebody had a claim and they
(33:56):
were doing some exploration.
There's a bunch of flaggingtape and I was like what the
heck is this?
And you can actually go intothis Saskatchewan website and
actually find out who has theclaim on that area or what
company is actually doingsomething there.
So, yeah, and I can get fairlyup-to-date satellite imagery, so
you have a few to choose from.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
How about you guys Any?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
suggestions.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
No, I was just going to say that's, that's some giant
brain stuff Like to to figureout that.
That's cause I'd be.
I'd start with Google earth.
Yeah, we, I tend to.
We, we almost exclusively doprovincial parks simply because
there's so many of them, and Idon't have to think I can just
buy a map.
Bob's, my uncle and I'm off tothe races, like I don't have to.
(34:40):
Super easy for old guys.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Just maps that long.
Those are the ones that you useyeah.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, they've already done all the work.
They know how you know, knowhow long it's going to take to
go through there, what, whatkind of you know if you're going
to get into rapids or anythinglike that, where all the sites
are, etc.
Etc.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
So so that it removes the whole rocket science part
for me yeah, but how cool to belike the first one who ever went
through this area.
Sure area.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Sure.
Yeah, it's um, and another offtopic question Skittles.
What's that all about?
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Oh, you don't have any.
Yeah, it's Skittles, I don'tknow.
It just makes you happy.
It's just like this is amouthful of awesomeness and
they're bright and colorful,especially on a gloomy day, and
you're kind of looking at themand you're like, oh yeah, man,
it's freaking awesome.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
So yeah, it's just it , just it just kind of makes you
happy.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
It's like I like wearing Maui gym sunglasses with
the rose colored tint and itjust makes.
It brightens everything up andmakes everything just look so
much happier, especially onthose rainy yeah gross days.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
So yeah, it's awesome awesome anything to help you
out right like yep, I can seethat yeah, sponsorship
opportunities too, that's it I'mthe skittles guy I feel like I
want to try and get a sponsorfrom kfc yeah, that'd be all
(36:13):
right.
Yeah, get a sponsor fromsponsor from KFC and it.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Uh, I love going and eating their chicken after I go
on a big trip, because it's likeI feel like I'm eight, my
metabolism's like it's 18 againand it's like, all right, I can
handle a bucket now.
And we stop on the way back Iget KFC.
So if they can sponsor like acanoe or something like that,
for me I'll call it the Colonel.
It'll be red and white, It'llbe awesome.
So we'll see.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
No, no offers yet.
Yeah, that's fine, we'll, we'llmake sure we flag it for them.
We'll we'll hashtag KFC.
That's definitely a thing thatthe big kid and I, when we're
about two days away from endingthe trip, it's like oh yeah,
there's going to be a really,really, really good burger in
two days.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Yeah, oh, yeah.
Yeah, you're starving forcalories.
Your metabolism's up Likeyou're burning through calories,
like anything, especially whenyou get older, something like
that You're going to feel it forusually like just on a normal
day.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
You would eat it and then you regret for three days,
but when you get out of a canoetrip you go and eat it and it's
just like oh god you know, it'sjust no regrets.
No, not one regret give me allthe grease.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, yeah, I think I might have just wet myself yeah
, um, can you saskatchewan?
Speaker 3 (37:32):
I'd, it's about it.
You guys got to come and, uh,check it out.
If you ever have the time, ifyou're passing through, come up
to northern saskatchewan and uh,yeah paddle around I think
you'll, I think you'll bepleasantly surprised sounds
beautiful, it does and I I'vebeen telling you that your
portages I would.
I would take those in aheartbeat right, so a lot better
(37:53):
than what is it?
Uh, is it?
I can't remember?
Is it quetico, the diabloportage, or something like that?
Speaker 2 (38:00):
that's not the diablo .
Yeah, there was.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
There's like a diablo staircase and then there's
diablo portage or something Idon't know there's a bunch of
that and it's, and it's, it's aportage.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
After you've done you still have to go through like
so much deadfall that you canliterally walk on it, break an
ankle, but walk on it to get tothe portage.
And then it's, you know, veryclose to bushwhacking straight
up for days.
It's yeah, we've got somefriends that have done it.
(38:33):
They're like Never again.
Yeah Well, we've got somefriends that have done it.
They're like never again.
Yeah Well, that's, I've checkedthat one off.
I'm never doing that again.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Yeah, yeah, it's probably the worst portage that
I can think of off the top of myhead.
In Saskatchewan we got I thinkit's pronounced methyl, methyl
portage.
So it's going from theChurchill river to the oh, what
is it?
Clearwater.
And it's.
I think it's 18 kilometers longand it's.
It's old fur trade stuff.
(39:00):
Right, that's how he got up toClearwater.
To go up to what is it?
The McKenzie.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
I can't even remember .
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Basically, you get up to Lake Athabasca and you go
that route and, yeah, it's I.
I knew, I know a guy who Ithink was attempting it, but
then he hurt his knee and he hadto get carried out and not
carried out but rescued.
Yeah, it's, it's, I've wantedto do it but I'm getting a
little little gray in the beard,so it's like now.
(39:29):
Now it just doesn't seemappealing at all.
It just sounds like a lot ofpain and I'm just trying to
avoid that 18 kilometers isn't aportage, that's hiking.
Yeah, your canoe trip turns intoa hiking trip for sure.
Yeah, no, thank you.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Nope, okay, all right .
Speaker 1 (39:46):
All right, that's it for us for today.
Thank you so much to ourspecial guest, tyler Chilabecki
from the YouTube channel PuddleJumper.
Please do check him out.
Check us out on YouTube whileyou're there and check us out on
all the social media.
If you'd like, you could emailus anytime at hi at
supergoodcampaigncom.
That's hi atsupergoodcampaigncom, and we'll
talk to you again soon.
Bye.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Bye.
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