September 22, 2025 • 15 mins
We're back for season three of the podcast with stories from our summer camping adventures and misadventures. Despite numerous weather challenges and trip cancellations, we managed to create memorable experiences with good friends in beautiful Georgian Bay.
• Our planned Algonquin Park canoe loop with Thomas was cancelled due to illness
• Our Georgian Bay expedition faced extreme winds up to 100 km/h and constant rain
• We were joined by friends from Beauty of the Backcountry and Tents and Timber which made the challenging conditions more fun
• Review of Bear Vaults as an alternative to traditional food barrel hangs for backcountry camping
• Upcoming adventures include whitewater paddling courses and a trip down the Spanish River
• Future podcast topics will include conservation areas, invasive species, and boating safety
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello and good day.
Welcome to the Super GoodCamping podcast.
My name is Pamela.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm Tim.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
And we are from supergoodcampingcom.
We are on a mission to inspireother people to get outside and
enjoy camping adventures such aswe have as a family.
Welcome to season three,episode one.
It's been, it seems, likelonger than three seasons.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
November will be five years.
So anyways, we didn't reallydivide up the seasons the first
time.
I was new nobody taught me whatto do there you go, uh.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
so we thought we'd just sort of catch up, uh, with
what we've been doing, whilewe've been not putting out
podcasts and uh, a bit, a bit ofour plan for the future and, uh
, we're going to do a bit of areview on our bear vaults, our
food storage.
So, yeah, we didn't do a lotthis summer.
(00:51):
I mean not in a camping sense.
Thomas and I were supposed todo a loop around the Barren
Canyon in Algonquin Park.
We were supposed to do it lastyear as well.
I seem to think we ran intoscheduling issues.
Last year the kid probably gotbusy and wasn't able to go, or
something I can't remember.
Now.
This year, two days before hewas even home, we were ready-ish
(01:12):
, and two days before we weresupposed to go he came down with
the flu.
So I tried to re-jig it,reschedule everything, and there
was no rejigging we could.
We could just take the trip asit was, uh, which means by the
time he would be back on hisfeet, you know, three or four
(01:32):
days into the trip and on hisfeet he was pretty big bag of
poo.
So, um, on his feet's a bit, uh,a bit wishful thinking, but we
would have had to have done.
You, you know, 15 or 16 or 17hours worth of driving and
paddling and portaging andsetting up, and I'm just not
into that kind of abuse.
I mean all you know.
Thumbs up for, for all thefolks that are out there
(01:54):
adventuring, but not this guy,uh.
So that didn't play out and, uh, we did go, we did do a five or
six day.
Um, we were trying to get outto Phillip Edward Island in
Georgian Bay, just do a basecamp sort of deal and and meet
up with some friends, them for along weekend.
(02:14):
We paddled about 20 minuteswith a wicked side waves and
three quarter winds.
That was right at the edge ofmy certainly my paddling
abilities.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
And way over the edge of mine, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Pamela was not having a particularly fun.
I was freaking out, yeah, andit was our first time with Dolly
, our rescue dog, our baby.
So, so yeah, we literallypaddled across to the first
piece of land we could find andplunked ourselves down.
That's it, we're done uh, thethe next time the wind was low
enough to really actually getout and battle, certainly again
(02:55):
for our abilities, uh was theday we left.
We looked at, we were watchingthe wind and and rain and
whatnot for the entirety of it,and it's like, oh, tomorrow
morning it's going to be okay,we're leaving tomorrow morning,
that's, that's how that's, wehave a window of an hour, that's
, it gotta get out.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Uh, on wednesday when we drove up to killarney we
ended up staying in killarneyprovincial park just because it
was they're predicting rain,rain, rain, rain, rain.
So we thought, okay, well, itjust did.
It did so we, we campedovernight in killarney
Provincial Park and then wedecided to make our way over
Thursday morning, and thenThursday morning was fine, we
(03:29):
got it packed up and everythingon its short drive over to where
we were putting in.
But by that time the wind hadpicked up and then the waves
were going and yeah, it was wayoutside my ability.
And then we got over there andactually before we left
Killarney clarny provincial park, there was a severe weather
warning coming for friday, whichwas um, wind gusts up to 100
(03:51):
kilometers an hour.
So that's what we got on friday.
While we were there was windgusts up to 100 kilometers an
hour.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
It rained every day, except for the morning the
morning we paddled we got moresun.
From the time we got up on whatwas that monday morning, monday
on the monday morning until wepaddled out, we got more sun
from the time we got up on.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
what was that Monday morning Monday?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
On the Monday morning until we got home More sun than
we had in the previous fivedays, it was pretty nuts.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
And it was windy.
Almost every day it was cold,Nighttimes went down to about
seven degrees and then daytimeswere up to 12, 13 maybe, and
because it was windy it feltcolder to me.
But the redeeming thing of thewhole thing was on Saturday
(04:32):
friends joined us, and so thatmade it so much better to have
Misery.
They actually showed up onFriday but they couldn't.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
The wind was just flattening.
For those of you who haven'tseen, my setups, I tend to do
the tent and then over the tent,do a tarp.
I don't feel a need for the sunand rain to cook the tent and
beat the crap out of it which Ihad set up.
Then, friday, it was getting socrazy that I took the tarp down
(05:04):
and put it on some trees besideus upwind so that it would be a
windbreak, because it wasflattening the tent, not quite
to the ground, but I was worriedwe were going to break some
poles and stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Well, we were in a little tiny circle of trees and
one of them was very deadlooking and I thought, OK, that
one's going to be coming down.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Widowmaker man, that one's coming down.
It didn't, thankfully so.
Yes, so so that that couplecame up and they still stayed at
Killarney Lodge, wasn't it?
Yeah, killarney Lodge, with abunch of 14 year old hockey
players that were up for atournament.
It's good fun there yeah, yeah.
So they came out on Saturday.
When did Alex and Jess?
Did they come out Sunday or didthey both come out Saturday?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I think they both came out Saturday.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
But Jay and.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Sherry came early in the day and then Alex and Jess
came later in the day.
But yes, we were so happy tosee other people.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, and it didn't stop the wind or the rain, but
it but it did make it a lot morefun.
We, I, everybody has a greatsense of humor.
Uh, we all are.
Uh, that that like-minded groupof folks.
So it was a ride.
We just we, we just we had ablast.
Nothing, nothing difficult makesome food, drink a little bit
(06:22):
of wine, uh, and just just clownaround.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, so Jay and Sherry from beauty of the back
country and Alex and Jess from10th and Timber.
So yeah, shout out to them.
And Alex and Jess were seeinglonger and they got the
beautiful weather they did.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yes, lucky, lucky.
Oh, although uh andwell-deserved though, because it
was Alex's birthday.
So the day after, I think theday after we left.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Happy birthday, Alex there you go.
Yeah, so it was actuallybeautiful, so beautiful granite
rock that we were camping onsome of that beautiful Muskoka
pine and then looking out overGeorgian Bay was beautiful,
except Georgian Bay is not verycalm very often, other than that
window that we paddled itwhat's?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
it's a relatively huge body of water, so, uh, and,
and lots of that, that, thatlake, your own wind business
going on.
So yeah, um, but I'm glad wewent because that's it's
different from what we normallydo and uh, yeah, crown land
camping yeah, it was gorgeousyeah, weird although it didn't
cost as much, less than thanfront country camping because we
(07:25):
had to buy a parking uh pass inorder to park at the uh, the
boat put in because that's stillpart of Killarney Park or
Killarney Provincial Park.
So but it was, it was cool andand just just hanging with, like
with cool folks, that was I.
I would do that again, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
We love them.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah, there you go, and that's been it for our
summer.
We've got Thomas and I haveanother whitewater paddling
course coming up, depending onwhen we when we air this,
publish it we're doing PalmerFest with a paddler co-op up on
the Mattawaska.
We're home for a week and ahalf and then we're off to do a
(08:14):
three or four day with organicboat shop Well and Thunderbox
Diaries Bill's going to be thereas well on the Spanish River,
which is why we've been takingwhitewater courses, courses,
although I suspect our waterlevels would be low enough that
we could just you know have noproblem getting through them,
but nonetheless that's been a,that's been a.
(08:36):
Whitewater has been a thing thisyear and I'm I'm was terrified
and I'm glad we did it.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Our youngest and I did a little road trip and we
did a little whitewater rafting,which I felt considerably safer
than paddling a canoe inGeorgian Bay.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Bouncing off of rocks as opposed to wrapping it over
ground or rock, and moving on.
So we had Grant from BearVaults on an episode back in the
spring.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Which was an excellent episode, by the way.
Go back and listen to it.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Super, yeah, like really fun guy, Really knows his
business, really cares aboutthe environment and, in
particular, bears.
But animals and stuff Thomasand again Thomas and I do the
majority of the backcountrycamping.
Pamela is, I think, just beingnice to me and occasionally
(09:33):
coming out for a bit.
We have typically done a barrelof some type and we do a barrel
hang so that the bears can'tget at our stuff.
I cook quite a pan in the buttand I hear stories about people
you know them learning to tochew the rope at the bottom of
the tree so that the bear, thebear will fall and they get.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
You know all that sort of Sending the cubs out on
the limb to go get them, Sendingthe cubs?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
which we've seen with raccoons.
So, anyhow, our friend camper,christina, it has a bear vault
and I thought you know that'sinteresting.
So we went and we ran into acouple other people who said,
yeah, no, you should go checkthem out.
So we did.
We went and talked to Grant atHamilton Was it the Hamilton
(10:18):
show, I think?
So, okay, he agreed to be onthe podcast.
We really enjoyed it.
So I wanted to try a bear vault,so I ordered one.
Grant was an absolutesweetheart, sent us another one
Because that's two of theirbiggest ones is about how much
food we need to pack for Thomaswhen we're doing a backcountry,
(10:38):
an eight-day backcountry trip.
He consumes a lot of caloriesAnyhow.
So those of you on youtubewatching us on youtube, this
this is their largest beer vault, which I want to say is three
gallons.
Um, I'm trying to think whatthat works out to.
It's about 12 ish liters,something like that, I think.
(10:59):
So I want to say they're aboutgallons, about four liters.
Uh, it has it's.
Go back and listen to theepisode because I'm going to get
a whole bunch of things wronghere, but it's a polycarbonate,
uh.
So it's theoretically.
Uh, smash proof, break proof.
It's designed with the, thediameter and the curvature, so
that it doesn't work for bearbear's mouth.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Can't get it out the round.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yep.
And then it has again.
Those of you watching on camera, I don't know if you can see.
There's a tab on the side hereand then there's two matching
stoppers.
I guess that when you comearound on that first thread they
(11:44):
hit up against it.
So even if the bear couldfigure out how to do two paws
and try to unscrew the lid, itcan't because they hit and it
turns it into like cough syrupor medicine.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Childproof, childproof, yeah, which is
actually.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Tim-proof because I always have so much trouble with
those, but same idea, sowonderful On the trip.
Like review-wise, I would saywe can't give it a fair review
because we didn't have any bears, which I'm okay with.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Maybe that's because we had bear vaults and they just
didn't even try.
They went oh, those darn things, again Not even going to try.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I don't know, but they certainly pack.
We pack more than enough for us.
They pack small, so it's niceto be able to break up the
weight, as opposed to one packwith all of that weight.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah, I could carry like one under each arm, yep
Easily.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
And then easier at night.
You don't have to go stumblingaround with your flashlight on
looking for your.
Where did you put that hangingfor my barrel?
Um, we, just, we just walkedyou know a ways away and and put
them at the base of a tree.
Uh, easy peasy.
The only thing I would say, theonly I'm not even sure downside,
because if I'd been payingattention I could have just
(12:58):
moved it.
Um, I was not very bright andleft it's clear and I left it in
the sun, and Pamela broughtlittle bits of chocolate to
snack on, so she had gooeychocolate at one point from from
the you know the, the wholemagnifying glass effect of the
sun.
But I could have just put it inthe shade and it would have
(13:20):
been fine.
Otherwise, all good man, I'm a,I'm pretty impressed.
I'm looking forward to taking it, like you know, more hardcore
backcountry uh, and see how thatplays out.
I've also just just throwing itout there.
I've also heard people say thatthey took it and they they tied
a rope around it, uh, to to atree.
That tied it to a tree so thata bear can't just swat it and
(13:43):
watch it roll away yes, ourswere perched kind of on top of a
granite rock and I thought,well, all it takes is something
tries to get into it and it'sgoing to roll down into Georgian
Bay.
But again not very bright,although it would float.
I think it didn't feel like itwas heavy enough as long as the
lid was screwed in tight enough.
I think it would float, atleast for a while.
And that is it for us today, Ithink that's it for us for today
(14:07):
Upcoming.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Did you want to mention some of what we've got?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
We have some cool guests Always.
I actually had a note.
You know what.
If you guys have any ideas for,for things you'd like to hear,
shoot us.
Shoot us an email, you know.
Make a comment on the on theYouTube video.
Throw a thing in on on Spotifyor Apple.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Questions, comments, episodes.
Do you like to hear?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
anything.
I know some of the things I'mplanning to get into is because
we haven't really done anythingabout camping and conservation
areas here here in Ontario, sowe're going to talk about that.
Some invasive species, you know, plants, what have you and how
to deal with them, how to removethem.
I read a very painful articleon boating death stats, so
(14:58):
that'll be a thing that comes upand I'm hoping to get some
questions together for OntarioParks and follow up.
Get some questions together foruh, for ontario parks, uh, and
follow up.
I lost the thread about a yearago trying to trying to get them
on to uh to have a yak, becauseI, I think I I would like to
pick their brains about somestuff, just because there's as
(15:19):
much as I camp in ontario parks,I absolutely don't know
everything.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
so yeah all right, that's it for us for today.
Thank you so much for listening.
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We'll talk to you again soon,bye, bye.
Hello and good day.
Welcome to the Super GoodCamping podcast.
My name is Pamela.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm Tim.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
And we are from supergoodcampingcom.
We are on a mission to inspireother people to get outside and
enjoy camping adventures such aswe have as a family.
Welcome to season three,episode one.
It's been, it seems, likelonger than three seasons.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
November will be five years.
So anyways, we didn't reallydivide up the seasons the first
time.
I was new nobody taught me whatto do there you go, uh.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
so we thought we'd just sort of catch up, uh, with
what we've been doing, whilewe've been not putting out
podcasts and uh, a bit, a bit ofour plan for the future and, uh
, we're going to do a bit of areview on our bear vaults, our
food storage.
So, yeah, we didn't do a lotthis summer.
(00:51):
I mean not in a camping sense.
Thomas and I were supposed todo a loop around the Barren
Canyon in Algonquin Park.
We were supposed to do it lastyear as well.
I seem to think we ran intoscheduling issues.
Last year the kid probably gotbusy and wasn't able to go, or
something I can't remember.
Now.
This year, two days before hewas even home, we were ready-ish
(01:12):
, and two days before we weresupposed to go he came down with
the flu.
So I tried to re-jig it,reschedule everything, and there
was no rejigging we could.
We could just take the trip asit was, uh, which means by the
time he would be back on hisfeet, you know, three or four
(01:32):
days into the trip and on hisfeet he was pretty big bag of
poo.
So, um, on his feet's a bit, uh,a bit wishful thinking, but we
would have had to have done.
You, you know, 15 or 16 or 17hours worth of driving and
paddling and portaging andsetting up, and I'm just not
into that kind of abuse.
I mean all you know.
Thumbs up for, for all thefolks that are out there
(01:54):
adventuring, but not this guy,uh.
So that didn't play out and, uh, we did go, we did do a five or
six day.
Um, we were trying to get outto Phillip Edward Island in
Georgian Bay, just do a basecamp sort of deal and and meet
up with some friends, them for along weekend.
(02:14):
We paddled about 20 minuteswith a wicked side waves and
three quarter winds.
That was right at the edge ofmy certainly my paddling
abilities.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
And way over the edge of mine, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Pamela was not having a particularly fun.
I was freaking out, yeah, andit was our first time with Dolly
, our rescue dog, our baby.
So, so yeah, we literallypaddled across to the first
piece of land we could find andplunked ourselves down.
That's it, we're done uh, thethe next time the wind was low
enough to really actually getout and battle, certainly again
(02:55):
for our abilities, uh was theday we left.
We looked at, we were watchingthe wind and and rain and
whatnot for the entirety of it,and it's like, oh, tomorrow
morning it's going to be okay,we're leaving tomorrow morning,
that's, that's how that's, wehave a window of an hour, that's
, it gotta get out.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Uh, on wednesday when we drove up to killarney we
ended up staying in killarneyprovincial park just because it
was they're predicting rain,rain, rain, rain, rain.
So we thought, okay, well, itjust did.
It did so we, we campedovernight in killarney
Provincial Park and then wedecided to make our way over
Thursday morning, and thenThursday morning was fine, we
(03:29):
got it packed up and everythingon its short drive over to where
we were putting in.
But by that time the wind hadpicked up and then the waves
were going and yeah, it was wayoutside my ability.
And then we got over there andactually before we left
Killarney clarny provincial park, there was a severe weather
warning coming for friday, whichwas um, wind gusts up to 100
(03:51):
kilometers an hour.
So that's what we got on friday.
While we were there was windgusts up to 100 kilometers an
hour.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
It rained every day, except for the morning the
morning we paddled we got moresun.
From the time we got up on whatwas that monday morning, monday
on the monday morning until wepaddled out, we got more sun
from the time we got up on.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
what was that Monday morning Monday?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
On the Monday morning until we got home More sun than
we had in the previous fivedays, it was pretty nuts.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
And it was windy.
Almost every day it was cold,Nighttimes went down to about
seven degrees and then daytimeswere up to 12, 13 maybe, and
because it was windy it feltcolder to me.
But the redeeming thing of thewhole thing was on Saturday
(04:32):
friends joined us, and so thatmade it so much better to have
Misery.
They actually showed up onFriday but they couldn't.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
The wind was just flattening.
For those of you who haven'tseen, my setups, I tend to do
the tent and then over the tent,do a tarp.
I don't feel a need for the sunand rain to cook the tent and
beat the crap out of it which Ihad set up.
Then, friday, it was getting socrazy that I took the tarp down
(05:04):
and put it on some trees besideus upwind so that it would be a
windbreak, because it wasflattening the tent, not quite
to the ground, but I was worriedwe were going to break some
poles and stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Well, we were in a little tiny circle of trees and
one of them was very deadlooking and I thought, OK, that
one's going to be coming down.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Widowmaker man, that one's coming down.
It didn't, thankfully so.
Yes, so so that that couplecame up and they still stayed at
Killarney Lodge, wasn't it?
Yeah, killarney Lodge, with abunch of 14 year old hockey
players that were up for atournament.
It's good fun there yeah, yeah.
So they came out on Saturday.
When did Alex and Jess?
Did they come out Sunday or didthey both come out Saturday?
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I think they both came out Saturday.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
But Jay and.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Sherry came early in the day and then Alex and Jess
came later in the day.
But yes, we were so happy tosee other people.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, and it didn't stop the wind or the rain, but
it but it did make it a lot morefun.
We, I, everybody has a greatsense of humor.
Uh, we all are.
Uh, that that like-minded groupof folks.
So it was a ride.
We just we, we just we had ablast.
Nothing, nothing difficult makesome food, drink a little bit
(06:22):
of wine, uh, and just just clownaround.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, so Jay and Sherry from beauty of the back
country and Alex and Jess from10th and Timber.
So yeah, shout out to them.
And Alex and Jess were seeinglonger and they got the
beautiful weather they did.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yes, lucky, lucky.
Oh, although uh andwell-deserved though, because it
was Alex's birthday.
So the day after, I think theday after we left.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Happy birthday, Alex there you go.
Yeah, so it was actuallybeautiful, so beautiful granite
rock that we were camping onsome of that beautiful Muskoka
pine and then looking out overGeorgian Bay was beautiful,
except Georgian Bay is not verycalm very often, other than that
window that we paddled itwhat's?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
it's a relatively huge body of water, so, uh, and,
and lots of that, that, thatlake, your own wind business
going on.
So yeah, um, but I'm glad wewent because that's it's
different from what we normallydo and uh, yeah, crown land
camping yeah, it was gorgeousyeah, weird although it didn't
cost as much, less than thanfront country camping because we
(07:25):
had to buy a parking uh pass inorder to park at the uh, the
boat put in because that's stillpart of Killarney Park or
Killarney Provincial Park.
So but it was, it was cool andand just just hanging with, like
with cool folks, that was I.
I would do that again, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
We love them.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah, there you go, and that's been it for our
summer.
We've got Thomas and I haveanother whitewater paddling
course coming up, depending onwhen we when we air this,
publish it we're doing PalmerFest with a paddler co-op up on
the Mattawaska.
We're home for a week and ahalf and then we're off to do a
(08:14):
three or four day with organicboat shop Well and Thunderbox
Diaries Bill's going to be thereas well on the Spanish River,
which is why we've been takingwhitewater courses, courses,
although I suspect our waterlevels would be low enough that
we could just you know have noproblem getting through them,
but nonetheless that's been a,that's been a.
(08:36):
Whitewater has been a thing thisyear and I'm I'm was terrified
and I'm glad we did it.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Our youngest and I did a little road trip and we
did a little whitewater rafting,which I felt considerably safer
than paddling a canoe inGeorgian Bay.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Bouncing off of rocks as opposed to wrapping it over
ground or rock, and moving on.
So we had Grant from BearVaults on an episode back in the
spring.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Which was an excellent episode, by the way.
Go back and listen to it.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Super, yeah, like really fun guy, Really knows his
business, really cares aboutthe environment and, in
particular, bears.
But animals and stuff Thomasand again Thomas and I do the
majority of the backcountrycamping.
Pamela is, I think, just beingnice to me and occasionally
(09:33):
coming out for a bit.
We have typically done a barrelof some type and we do a barrel
hang so that the bears can'tget at our stuff.
I cook quite a pan in the buttand I hear stories about people
you know them learning to tochew the rope at the bottom of
the tree so that the bear, thebear will fall and they get.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
You know all that sort of Sending the cubs out on
the limb to go get them, Sendingthe cubs?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
which we've seen with raccoons.
So, anyhow, our friend camper,christina, it has a bear vault
and I thought you know that'sinteresting.
So we went and we ran into acouple other people who said,
yeah, no, you should go checkthem out.
So we did.
We went and talked to Grant atHamilton Was it the Hamilton
(10:18):
show, I think?
So, okay, he agreed to be onthe podcast.
We really enjoyed it.
So I wanted to try a bear vault,so I ordered one.
Grant was an absolutesweetheart, sent us another one
Because that's two of theirbiggest ones is about how much
food we need to pack for Thomaswhen we're doing a backcountry,
(10:38):
an eight-day backcountry trip.
He consumes a lot of caloriesAnyhow.
So those of you on youtubewatching us on youtube, this
this is their largest beer vault, which I want to say is three
gallons.
Um, I'm trying to think whatthat works out to.
It's about 12 ish liters,something like that, I think.
(10:59):
So I want to say they're aboutgallons, about four liters.
Uh, it has it's.
Go back and listen to theepisode because I'm going to get
a whole bunch of things wronghere, but it's a polycarbonate,
uh.
So it's theoretically.
Uh, smash proof, break proof.
It's designed with the, thediameter and the curvature, so
that it doesn't work for bearbear's mouth.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Can't get it out the round.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yep.
And then it has again.
Those of you watching on camera, I don't know if you can see.
There's a tab on the side hereand then there's two matching
stoppers.
I guess that when you comearound on that first thread they
(11:44):
hit up against it.
So even if the bear couldfigure out how to do two paws
and try to unscrew the lid, itcan't because they hit and it
turns it into like cough syrupor medicine.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Childproof, childproof, yeah, which is
actually.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Tim-proof because I always have so much trouble with
those, but same idea, sowonderful On the trip.
Like review-wise, I would saywe can't give it a fair review
because we didn't have any bears, which I'm okay with.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Maybe that's because we had bear vaults and they just
didn't even try.
They went oh, those darn things, again Not even going to try.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I don't know, but they certainly pack.
We pack more than enough for us.
They pack small, so it's niceto be able to break up the
weight, as opposed to one packwith all of that weight.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah, I could carry like one under each arm, yep
Easily.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
And then easier at night.
You don't have to go stumblingaround with your flashlight on
looking for your.
Where did you put that hangingfor my barrel?
Um, we, just, we just walkedyou know a ways away and and put
them at the base of a tree.
Uh, easy peasy.
The only thing I would say, theonly I'm not even sure downside,
because if I'd been payingattention I could have just
(12:58):
moved it.
Um, I was not very bright andleft it's clear and I left it in
the sun, and Pamela broughtlittle bits of chocolate to
snack on, so she had gooeychocolate at one point from from
the you know the, the wholemagnifying glass effect of the
sun.
But I could have just put it inthe shade and it would have
(13:20):
been fine.
Otherwise, all good man, I'm a,I'm pretty impressed.
I'm looking forward to taking it, like you know, more hardcore
backcountry uh, and see how thatplays out.
I've also just just throwing itout there.
I've also heard people say thatthey took it and they they tied
a rope around it, uh, to to atree.
That tied it to a tree so thata bear can't just swat it and
(13:43):
watch it roll away yes, ourswere perched kind of on top of a
granite rock and I thought,well, all it takes is something
tries to get into it and it'sgoing to roll down into Georgian
Bay.
But again not very bright,although it would float.
I think it didn't feel like itwas heavy enough as long as the
lid was screwed in tight enough.
I think it would float, atleast for a while.
And that is it for us today, Ithink that's it for us for today
(14:07):
Upcoming.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Did you want to mention some of what we've got?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
We have some cool guests Always.
I actually had a note.
You know what.
If you guys have any ideas for,for things you'd like to hear,
shoot us.
Shoot us an email, you know.
Make a comment on the on theYouTube video.
Throw a thing in on on Spotifyor Apple.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Questions, comments, episodes.
Do you like to hear?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
anything.
I know some of the things I'mplanning to get into is because
we haven't really done anythingabout camping and conservation
areas here here in Ontario, sowe're going to talk about that.
Some invasive species, you know, plants, what have you and how
to deal with them, how to removethem.
I read a very painful articleon boating death stats, so
(14:58):
that'll be a thing that comes upand I'm hoping to get some
questions together for OntarioParks and follow up.
Get some questions together foruh, for ontario parks, uh, and
follow up.
I lost the thread about a yearago trying to trying to get them
on to uh to have a yak, becauseI, I think I I would like to
pick their brains about somestuff, just because there's as
(15:19):
much as I camp in ontario parks,I absolutely don't know
everything.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
so yeah all right, that's it for us for today.
Thank you so much for listening.
Please do tune in again and ifyou would like to reach out to
us, you know that we are alwaysavailable at any time at hi at
supergoodcampingcom.
That's hi atsupergoodcampingcom, and we're
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what you think.
We'll talk to you again soon,bye, bye.
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