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June 10, 2025 38 mins

In this episode of SuperPsyched, Dr. Adam Dorsay interviews Dr. Vanessa Patrick, author of 'The Power of Saying No.' They discuss why saying no is challenging due to social and neurological factors and how empowered refusal, based on identity and values, can help individuals regain control over their lives. Vanessa shares personal anecdotes, research, and practical frameworks for identifying and declining requests that don't align with one's priorities. The conversation also touches on the psychological and emotional costs of saying yes when one means no, and offers strategies for dealing with pushy askers. The episode aims to help listeners manage their time and energy better while fostering authentic relationships and personal empowerment.

00:00 Welcome to SuperPsyched

00:28 The Struggle of Saying No

00:50 Introducing Dr. Vanessa Patrick

02:03 Vanessa's Personal Journey

06:28 The Stadium Effect and Social Pressure

09:45 The Costs of Saying Yes

18:36 The Art of Empowered Refusal

34:41 Dealing with Pushy Askers

36:33 Final Thoughts and Takeaways

Helpful Links:

"The Power of Saying No: The New Science of How to Say No that Puts You in Charge of Your Life” Book

Vanessa Patrick, Ph.D. Website

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