October 7, 2025 • 42 mins
This week Jason and Dee are back for the epic conclusion of their showdown between two of the quirkiest comedies of the 1980s — Pee-Wee’s Big Adventure (1985) vs. UHF (1989)! In part two, the guys dive deep into the cast of UHF, uncover fascinating tidbits and behind-the-scenes trivia from both cult classics, and reminisce about the impact these offbeat films had on pop culture. Finally, Jason and Dee render their final judgment: which zany movie truly stands tall as the king of weird 80s comedy?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Welcome to the comedic clash of the century, weird Owl's
UHF versus Peewee's big adventure in this corner, standing a
surprising six feet tall the Sultan of Satire, the master
of mirth, the Ace of the accordion, weird Al Yankovic.
Will his polka powered pile driver punches be enough to
tear Peewee's playhouse down? The word for today, Ladies and Gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Is painted side. Next up, lesbian Nazi hookers abducted by
UFOs and forced into weight loss programs.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
But first, look what I got for you here?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
To be a tweaky weener sandwich your favorite.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
You have a cup of milk for me to dip
it in.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Did you know he had to eat seven of those
to finish that dead take?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Have you tried it? No? Oh man, I thought about
bringing some today. I thought about getting some twinkies, some
cheese with and some oscar Myer wieners and rows. I'd
try it. I'd try it. Yeah, not dipped. Welcome back, everybody.
We are here for part two of our comparison of
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weird Al Yankovic's u HF and Pee Wee Herman's Pee
Wee's Big Adventure. We are jumping back into casting. We
covered on our first part the how these shows came
to be and the casting for Pee Wee's Big Adventure.
Now we're going to jump into casting for u h F.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Fine Ryan, Now UHF. We already talked about how Jay Levy,
who was weird Al's best friend manager manager, directs this movie.
Of course it stars weird Al.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Jay Levy does have a part in this movie. Yes,
he does, kind of a prominent part, a very memorable part,
for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
He plays Gandhi two Gandhi Too. He's here to kick button,
eat a steak.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I mean he does a pretty good Hindu guru for
a you know, short Jewish guy.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Really, you know, hey, one of the tidbits on Gandhi Too. Yes,
they rented a Ferrari, which you and I stood in
that alley we did, And they rented that ferrari and
Gandhi's beating the crap out of some guy and he
slams his head down in the ferrari. It actually made
a dent in the Ferrari. And they only have a
small budget.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, it's a small budget movie, and they.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Were able to kind of pop out that dent on
the Ferrari.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Wow. Okay, so let's talk about the cast. Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
So you have mister weird Al Yankovic as George Newman.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Okay, how's this for our new Friday night lineup? Eight
o'clock Druids on Parade, then the Volcano Worshippers.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Hour, followed by Underwater Bengo for teams and.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Fun with Dirt. George Newman. By the way, George Newman
gets his last name from Weird Owl's Love of the
Mad magazine franchise, whose key character is Alfred E Newman.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Alfred you Newman?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
That's correct.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Then you have David bo David Bowie.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
No Bo Bo Bowe, who plays Bob. How could you
do this to me? I knew this was gonna happen.
You're right, Bob, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
What can I say?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I'm a miserable, worthless sonk of slime here. I want
you to take this crowbarn.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Just bash my head right in. Go ahead, really, please
bash it right in. George, you know I couldn't do that.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
You still want me five bucks? Bob Okay, who also
plays the clown.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
You know he got his lip split when he smacked
him in the face with that pan.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
The there are two injuries that occur in one injury
that occurs in each of these movies. The first one
that you have just alluded to is weird. I was
supposed to stop short with the frying pan and it
didn't and split open David Bow's lip. And so the
take you get when he comes back up and he's
shaking his head is genuine. He actually got hit. The
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only reason you don't see his lip bleeding is because
of the clown makeup he's wearing. That's right. I got
another clown story coming up on a little bit later
when we get a further down casting. And then in
Peewee's Big Adventure, when he's doing the dance in the
barroom with the big old stiletto shoes and he hits
his head, he really hit his head. Genuine reaction there
as well.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Paul Rubbins says, he knocked the crap out of that
bar or whatever it was. Yeah, and that's the take
they used.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
YEA. By the way, David.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Bow, he's done eight billion commercials.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
You see. You saw his face a whole lot back
in the eighties, that's for sure. I remember seeing him in.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Stuff and a bunch of stuff, but never really amounted
too much.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Not a star, he's he's a guy who does a
lot of advertisements. But perfect for this part.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
You know who they wanted to play that part. They
offered the role too, right before his fortunes changed. Tell
me Jerry Seinfeld.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Oh, that's right, he was offered the part. Is weird
Al's best friend? Yeah, And so that would have been
an interesting connection, of course, because Jerry Seinfeld and Michael
Richards go on to start together in Seinfeld.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
You have Jerry and Kramer who could have been in Uajeff.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Wow, that's crazy. So you might as well just talk
about Michael Richards. Why we got him right there?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
He plays Stanley Spadowski.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
George. You know, I was wondering, like if you were
traveling through outer space. I mean, I you go on
real fast, like the speed of light, you know, and
all of a sudden you start screaming up. You think
that your brain would blow up. Brilliant. He stole the movie, right.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
You said that, and I thought he did steal the movie.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
He absolutely stole the movie. And so they had seen
him perform his stand up and were very interested in
having him be this part. And just as a personal story,
I will tell you this. You know, I was a
theater major in college and when we would do our
auditions for like you auditioned, your first audition was for
all of the shows that they were doing that season,
right sure, and you would do two monologues, one serious
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and one usually comedic, and then you had to sing
a song. The songs were pointless for guys like me
because I knew I wasn't going to be in a
musical right and so I had this serious bit, which
was really moving, serious bit. I didn't have anything funny.
And I happened to catch UHF and I see Michael
Richards saying this is my new mop and I see
him and you know, and it finishes like he goes
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through this and he gets so intense and he's like,
these floors are dirty as hell. I'm not gonna take
it anymore. Yeah, And I'm like I sat there with
with EHS and I wrote down everything, did that as
my monologue, Like I went from siious and I went,
you know, you have this moment of transition. I went
like this, and then it went into it. I got
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called back to every single show, including the musicals. Can't
sing a lick got called back to the musicals because
and every single director was like, I loved I loved
the UHF bit. I loved watching you transition from whatever.
I don't even remember what the serious piece was that
I did, but that switch. But I was watching this
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with Brock earlier today and I was like, listen to
this bit. I literally started to tear up. It was
so it was just like it just brings back memories.
That's fun, man, I love it.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Okay, you also have fran Dresser.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Hi, I'm George Newman. I'm the new station manager.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Cool.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
You know when I first took this job, they told
me that this position was only temporary and that eventually,
when the time was right, I would be moved up
to news, which is really my forte.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
You know how long I've been working here?
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Oh, y is it's kind of hard to get promoted
when every other week you have a new boss.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
This job really sucks.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And this is my friend Bob. Hi, nice to meet you.
The nanny.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
The nanny she plays Pamela Finkelstein. Hello, Pamela Finkelstein.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
She and Victoria Jackson are both convinced that they both
got the job because they had nasally annoying voices.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
So to Victoria Jackson, she plays Terry, yes, George's girlfriend
and then not girlfriend. She looks really cute in this.
I had a total crush on Victoria Jackson when I
was a kid man. I just thought she was pretty
and sweet and just seemed like a nice girl next door.
Kind of bubbly, kind of dumb, yeah, seemingly. And I
have read the other people who auditioned for this. Jennifer
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Tilly who too hot, she has been hot for forty
five years. Too hot, yes, and then Ellen de Generes,
she's never been in her life, she's been mildly not
even kind of very successful. But yeah, brilliant, brilliant comedian,
brilliant actress. Absolutely yeah, not okay.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I want to talk about Kevin McCarthy, who plays R. J.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Fletcher. You shouldn't have happy Father's Day, Dad? What is it.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Our roles?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah? So Kevin McCarthy. Every time I think of him,
I think of Interspace, which is another movie that we
have to cover, right, and it's he plays in that
the same type of character. But they picked him because
he was in that same kind of stage at his
career as Leslie Nielsen was when they made the movie
Airplane and they were like, we want some guy who's
done all this serious stuff, who's you know, reaching his
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gray days, and we want him to be our straight villain.
Back in the fifties, he was in the original Invasion
of the Body Snatchers was also he was in when
they remade it with Donald Sutherland as well. He was
a part of that as well. And as I said,
I've seen an interspace and he was also hit a
Twilight Zone episode where he played a history professor who
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never aged, so kind of a cool idea, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah, I do know that as they were filming UHF
and the scenes where he had to be particularly nasty,
he would be like and then they would say cut
and then he would us step laughing.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, like he said, they said, he laughed the entire time.
They feel mistassic. Oh and we know we also talked
about him. He was in the Howling. That's right, he
was Howling. I forgot all about that. Wow.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, go back to season one where we talked Howling
versus American Werewolf in London.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Great episode. Wow.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Okay, I want to talk about Anthony Gary. Okay, he
plays Filo. Yeah, do you recognize him? I know you
do because we talked about it.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
But well, I told you I don't know where in
my life, but because it's been years ago, but I
saw some sort of behind the scenes or making of
or something like that where they're interviewing them later on
in life, and I see him and I'm like, who
was he in this? Because he's this good looking. I'm like,
I recognize it. He looks like a soap opera guy.
And then sure enough, a little bit later, he's like,
I did all this stuff on General Hospital and there
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this was this opportunity. So do you know who they
wrote this character for? Who's that? Joel Hotchon? He had
he had a stand up routine where he would have
these crazy inventions. Was kind of a bad scientist guy,
but he was just starting to do Mystery Science Theory
three thousand and he's like, sorry, guys, I'm not gonna
do this wow. And so that gave what's his name,
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Gary Anthony, Gary Anthony, Gary, the opportunity to go, hey,
I love weird al and I would love to do
this character that is not at all like the anthem
soap opera actor that I play every day on General Hospital.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Okay, so I have never watched soap operas in my life.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, okay, I don't believe you.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
But but I have heard of Luke and Laura. Yeah,
he played Luke Luke eighties heart Throb, General Hospital TV star.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, and now he's the mad Science For me, it's
Bow and Hope. Those the days of our lives. Guy,
I'm not kidding. Like when I was in high school,
Like I'd never watched it as a young person, but
like in high school, I would go pick up my
friend at his house and be like, hold on, I've
got it the v He would record the VHS and
like as we're eating breakfa're eating bowls of cereal, about
to go to school, We're watching the yesterday's days of
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our life. My gosh, wow, what can I say? It
was exciting.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Do you know who they wanted to play Pilo Crispin Glover.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Oh that would have been interesting. Yeah, okay, I.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
See him as a kookie mad scientist. Yeah you know why.
He didn't play that part. So they offered it to
Crispin Glover. He came back to them and said, I've
read the script and I want to play the used
car salesman.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And nothing else. Okay, all right, Crispin, thank you. We'll
call you crazy. Don't call us, We'll call you. Where
do you get so many cars?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
If you don't come down to buy a car, I'm
gonna club this baby Seal.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Crispin Glover too weird. That's great.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
I also want to point out Billy Bartie.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
He is the little person, is the little cameraman down
here at Tuts.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah yeah, and uh he's the one that John Parragon
trips and falls face face plants.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah, outside of city Hall, just revenge at the end
of the movie. It's so funny. Yes, brilliant part.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
He was in a movie that I loved as a
kid called foul Play. I was on a film by
podcast talking about foul Play with Chevy Chase and Goldie Hawn,
like their first movie.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I feel like he might have been kind of a
major player in Under the Rainbow as he was. Yeah, okay,
Under the Rainbow Chevy Chase and Carrie Fisher in her
bra Yausler.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
All right, we also have in this movie Geddy want
to nobby Hey cooney.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Hoy you dog?
Speaker 5 (13:34):
It was class today.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Huh? This stupid.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Geddy wanted to nobby. What's happened in hot stuff? There's
a weird Chinese guy in what do you mentioning about?
I got to sleep under a guy named after a
duck stork.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
When are we gonna talk about sixteen candles? I guess
nicklick long dug dung.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yes, want a Toby man gotta love it?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah, he plays Cooney and his big line is there's a.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Stupid and he is the wheel of fish guy. He
is the will of fish guy. Which I've got a
great tidbit on that when we get to that tidbits part. Okay, yes,
very good, all right. You also have Trinidad Silva.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Hey Man's and welcome to ra Wild Kingdom, coming to you.
Lie from my apartment about that.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Okay, this is this is our tragedy. This is where
the fun and happy takes a sad turn. So you
will remember Trinidad Silva because he was Raoul's Wild Kingdom, right.
He's he has got all of the animals. He sticks
the licks, the turtle throws it so to stick on
the ceiling. And of course he's teaching the poodles how
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to fly today sometimes they don't get it on the
first one. Yeah, I was watching this with Rock to
day and Brock busted out laughing at that seat of like,
you can't not laugh at that brilliant party he does
the Badgers. We don't need no stinking Badgers. Yeah, brilliantly performed.
He had been in a few things like his kind
of gang members on like Hill Street Blues and some
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other stuff like this, And they started filming this in
mid July July twenty eighth. I Believety on July thirty first,
July thirty one is what I have yet. Okay, So
July thirty first, he and his family, wife and son
are leaving church and a drunk driver runs a red light.
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Neither he nor his son are buckled. They're both thrown
from the vehicle. His son has minor injuries, wife survives.
He was thrown a hundred feet and killed on impact,
which is tragic. I had no idea. I just I
literally thought to myself when I would watch this movie,
I'm like, why didn't they Why didn't they bring him back?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Like he should have been involved, should have been at
the end.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
He was. He was supposed to be a major part
of the telethon that they were doing, and they considered,
They're like, should we recast this and film his scenes
over again? And they just couldn't bring themselves to do
it right, and so they just said, let's leave it
as it is and just not have his part, just
not do it. Dedicated the movie to him, and weird,
how's never been an alcohol drinker. He's a tee, told her,
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told her his whole life vegetarian too. Yeah, but he
had been approached to do like a multi million dollar
beer commercial campaign and he turned it down in part
because of his own beliefs, but also in major part
because he had lost this guy that very beginning of
production due to drunk driving. So, wow, tragic story, you know,
a great legacy, you know that that he would have
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this such a memorable, wonderful part in his final film. Yes, okay, I.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Want to bring up Vance Koenig Junior.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Okay, I sent you a video today. Did you look
at it today? Okay? So you just you just said
Vance Conig Junior. Yes, So Vance Koenig Senior went by
a nickname called Pinto. He was Pinto Covid. Okay, yeah, Covid, Covid, right, Colvic.
But he's basically your last name. Close your last name
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with a G instead of an N, right, and so
Pinto Colvig was the voice for the original Goofy, What
Original Goofy. He was the voice for Bluto in Popeye Wow.
And he was the original voice for Bozo the Clown Wow,
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now Bozo the Clown. Bozo the Clown started off as
just a read along record that went along with a book,
and it didn't become a TV thing until later. One
of the guys who would go and do like the
personal appearances when they were promoting their read along book
stuff bought the rights to it, and ultimately he franchised
it out to local TV studios who would have their
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own Bozo the Clown. The very first Bozo the Clown
that was on TV that got this franchise was Vance Colvig, junior,
son of the original Bozo. He was the first one
to play Bozo on TV. Really, yes, and he's in
the Hobo. He is playing the Hobo and you and you.
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If you grew up in the eighties, you almost certainly
remember the just a Jiggielow video with David Lee Roth.
He is a major He is a major part. He's
the funny little looks like a woman part in Uh,
he's dressed up as a woman for this, but he's
done a bunch of these little character roles and stuff
like this.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Man, you turned over some rocks right there.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
That's great. You know who auditioned for that part and
got turned down. I don't know if he auditioned or
if he just said I want to do it. It
was Ginger Baker from Cream, the drummer for Cream. Yeah,
play that part. Yeah, amazing.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Okay, we already mentioned. But John Peregon plays Junior Fletcher, right,
r J Fletcher Junior right?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Oh did I do that? Ooops?
Speaker 3 (18:46):
And John Peregon was like great friends with Paul Rubins,
one of the groundlings, Yeah, and was really like one
of the leaders of that group.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah, he played the genie yeah, like a hed Right.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
One more person I want to bring up to you.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Belinda Bauer plays one of the mud wrestlers in one
of the little shorts that they show for you, the.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
One where they were wrestling with Okay, wow, that's okay,
dive right there. Okay, that's that is a one and
a half second clip at best, right.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Right, So one of the mud wrestlers, Belinda Bauer is
her name, Okay, Okay, she's a model because she's babe.
You know that's not She goes on to become a
psychologist and is working like a practicing psychologist in La
right now. Fantastic mud wrestling to psychology.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
That is fantastic.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
There you go, all right, one last thing on casting
before we transition out here. There was a cameo that
was scheduled to be in UHF okay of course where
Al plays Rambo, which we covered earlier this season.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I liked it better than I liked the Rambo movie. Honestly,
he's blowing up stuff raw ra.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah, so that's just the Loan was posed to have
a cameo as the helicopter pilot booth worker.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Oh, that would have been brilliant.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Where Now and Sly had a common friend and Sly
agreed to be in it, but just couldn't quite make
it happen.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Oh, it's too bad. That would have been a lot
of fun. Okay, So I got one more casting thing.
This is this is a this is a deep cut,
and this is me personal personally. So the fish lady,
you know this play in the game show. We have
the Wheel of Fish right right, Yeah, and she's the
one that she gets the red Snapper and he's like,
are you gonna hold your red snapper or are you
going to take what's in the box?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
You know?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
And it opened the box and.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
It's nothing box the box.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
I take the box.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, so stupid. Okay, So that's Lisa Stephonic, which will
probably be meaningless unless you happen to be in the
acting world in Tulsa, which I was back in nineteen
ninety seven ninety eight. Lisa Stephonic taught school at Tulsa
Community College, which I was going to for a time.
She directed plays and I was not only her student.
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I was an actor in a play that she directed.
Phyllis Weaver is the Fish Lady, the Red Snapper Lady.
That was a personal friend of How about that? Yeah
that's good. Yeah, all right, we're on to tidbits before
we hit final judgment. Let's do it. Okay, what's going
on off for? We're looking for an escaped convict, ma'am.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
You're all about it on the radio, right, honey? Have
you seen this man? Better head fun boiled.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
I've got some crazy tidbits for you. I can't wait
to tell you about this, all right, So the first
tidbit that I want to give to you, which absolutely
blew my mind when I first discovered this, okay because
I didn't recognize them. But at the very beginning of
Batman Returns, this is post Paul Rubens getting busted at
a X rated movie theater spanking the monkey.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Okay, at the beginning.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Of the sequel to Batman, of course, that's that's the
Tim Burton movie Burton, right, all right, right, Michael Keaton, Oh.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
We're right.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
He plays He's like the rich he's got he's the
rich guy with the rich wife.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Paul Rubins plays Penguin's father, Yes, and his wife is
Diane Salinger.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
That's Simone.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
So pee Wee and Simone are the penguin's mother and
father at the beginning of Batman return fantastic.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yep, that's right. How about that? Right? Yes, And not
that we need to get into too Paul Rubens arrest
or anything, but pretty good recovery. I mean number one,
getting Tim to to cast you as a kind of
a key but small role in the Batman Returns, but
then also coming onto the MTV video music worts like
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I remember that happening.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
People lost their mind.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Everybody stood up, was applauding, like as I think about
it now, and I mean I had no idea what
it might and I still don't, but as an adult
you kind of get a better frame to empathize with
somebody who might go through something like that. And how
devastating that is. I mean, number one, you're trying to
keep your sexuality a secret from people because that was
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the time that it was not okay, right, and so
that it gets a little gets a little touchy. But
to go through that, to see this kind of devastating,
I mean, because his career wasn't doing much at the
moment anyway, but have this devastating moment and then to
do the pr to go, let's have you come out
at the MTV Music Wars and you're going through this
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and you can see on his face, you can see
his fear and doubt about what he's about to do.
And then you see the entire auditorium standing up, screaming,
clapping and chanting his name. It kind of made me
tear up to it.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
It was like, guys are hurting any good jokes lately?
Brilliant so Funnyken fun at himself. Ladies and gentlemen, MTV
is proud to introduce someone who has been a friend
for a long time.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Thank you, thank thank you, Chap Tap, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Thank you That Hill.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Heard any good jokes lately?
Speaker 3 (25:11):
What was that.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
So funny? I forgot to laugh?
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Yeah, okay, tidbit for you.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
The drive in at the very end where he's we
have all the people, all the characters that he's kind
of weaved in and out. The biker guy's there, you know,
Mickey's in the convict bus. Yeah, you know, Dotty's there.
That drive in is the same drive in that Sandy
and Danny are.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
At in Greece exactly, and you have the same let's
all go to the lobby cartoon that plays in both scenarios.
How about that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
One of the things that also blew my mind when
Peter's Big Adventure came out. I was twelve, so I
had not ever seen a Chiechen.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Chong movie at that point, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
In Chichen Chong's next movie, Night eighty, you have an
appearance of Pee Wee Herman.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, he's he's playing a hotel clerk. It's like hotel
clerk slash Pee Wee you know, is my character? Yeah,
later on that night, you see him as pee Wee
doing his stand up.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah, Chiechen Junger in the crowd. They're giving him a
hard time, right, right right. One of the very early
cinematic appearances of.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Pee Wee Herman well right, So the throwback is when
he's in his movie where James Roland is p W.
Herman and Morgan Fairchild is Dottie. He again is playing
a hotel clerk. So great, great bit because he keeps
looking at the camera and then when he speaks, it's
this obvious voiceover actor Herman aging, mister Herman, mister Herman,
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you have a telephone call at the front desk. Now,
I will say this, I remember watching The Blues Brothers
and seeing him as a waiter in the bo. That's
freaking pee Wee. He's still kind of the same kind
of character. I mean, he's kind of nerdy. I told
you well, I don't know if we've thought it was
nineteen eighty, I was nineteen eighty.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
I don't know if we've talked about this or not,
but he is playing a hotel clerk in PW and Dottie.
You know, the James Bond version of Peewee's story, and
he's a person who's acting poorly, but you can tell
he's trying to act well and he keeps accidentally looking
at the camera but then also like trying to recover
from it. Brilliant performance and so funny. So also just
(27:29):
me personally, anytime I'm in church or whatever, I'm testing
a Mica A Jane mister Herman. So okay, at the
end of the movie, at the drive in Francis shows
up and you have these people who are interviewing him.
One of the people that is like the photographer, that's
Michael Barhall, the guy one of the writers for this movie.
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And then Phil Hartman is playing the reporter who's actually
interviewing him. So you have the writers of the movie
making a cameo at the very end. You know, we
talked about Dottie E. G.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Daily.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Yeah, they looked at Lori Laughlin, Laura Dern, Phoebe Kate's,
Leah Thompson, and Jennifer Jason Lee as possible dotties.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah, kind of a who's who of actresses. Yes, and
Elizabeth Dailey is very attractive, but that's a that's a
list of hotties right there that's probably out of reach. Yeah,
nobody would believe that they were. And maybe that's the point.
Nobody would believe even that Dotty was obsessed with we
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you know, his kind of refusal of her is comedic
gold in my mind.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
It's perfect twelve year old boy girl stuff. And actually
she does a brilliant job of she longs for him,
but she's also trying to keep it under wraps. And
you know, I want you to ask me.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
What you know, just goofy kids stuff. She does a
great job.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
And then last thing, Yep, we have got to make
a trip to San Antonio because just announced, Yeah, the
bike is at the Alamo on display.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
This year twenty twenty five. There are like multiple bikes,
but yes, one of the one of the key bikes
is now on display at the Alamo. And the Alamo
also now has a basement. I don't know if they
put the bicycle in the basement or not, but they should.
I went.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
I visited the Alamo a few years ago with my kids, Yes,
and I constantly kept like elbowing them saying, should I
ask them if there's a basement?
Speaker 1 (29:30):
By the way, we didn't mention this, but another great
cameo part. I guess it was that was eighty five.
This may have been before she was on Saturday Night Live.
But Jan Hooks, Jan Hooks is the tour guy. Yeah,
and she ad libbed all of that, improved, all of it.
Brilliant too, che in her gum talking in her Southern accent.
It was great. He'm very proud of her.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Blanket. Hold all questions till the end. All right, So
let's hit tidbits for u.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Hf right, so commanding, so powerful, so deadly. He's Conan
the Librarian. All right.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
One of the actors that has a bit part in
this movie is Emo Phillips.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yes, I will just say this. A joke to this
day that I still use is an Emo Phillips joke
where you're talking about something and you're like and you
know and And this year they had Haley's Comet, or
as some people say, Haley's Comit the guy is weird funny,
(30:36):
but this I was weeping when his scene happened in
this It's funny because they will if they show this
on TV, they'll take out the part where he's teaching
the poodles how to fly, but they will not remove
the severed thumb squirting blood. All of boy, am I
red in the face. This genius? Now there was more
(30:59):
to it. This is this peach. This movie got a
PG thirteen Radio thirteen because of the poodles, and they
actually the conen the librarian part. That's the other part
that brought left out out. That was funny. Sorry, these
are a little bit late, but yeah, they wanted to
take those out to get I don't think it's a
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PG thirteen movie at all, but I can see, you know,
maybe you don't want your five year old kid watching
somebody throw a poodle out of a three stories cut
their fingers off, right, But I guess the cutting the
finger off part, you know, Emo being the weird humor
that he is, he's it's like, can you find it?
And they actually he finds it, he gives it to him.
(31:41):
He's like, well, they say to keep it warm, and
he sticks it in his mouth. That's funny. That's good
humor right there. That is I'm sorry it didn't make
the cut, if you will pardon the punt.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
I did see him on the weird Al behind the music,
Emo Phillips like show the camera his residual check for
UHF thirty.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Cents thirty cents he said, this is the impact it
had on my career. That's funny. Yeah, I do know
that they used real fish on the wheel of Fish.
Oh yeah. Not only did they use real fish, they
bought them at the fish market that morning. I can't
remember what the fish market is there in Tulsa, but
they went to the fish market in Tulsa, bought it
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early that morning, started putting the wheel together because you
got to balance the fish so that the wheel actually spins. Yeah,
they didn't start shooting until four thirty in the afternoon.
And they were shooting in July and August in Tulsa, Oklahoma,
with one hundred people in the room. It was hi man,
(32:47):
hot and dead fish not refrigerated. That's right, it was ripe.
That's awesome. Okay.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
One other tidbit that I got for you on uhf
yes in the middle of the movie.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Maybe the one of the.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Bright parts of the movie is you have the Beverly.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Hillbillies, dire Straits, dire Straits, ready for Nothing, parody.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
The Little Story about You, O song, Fat Bull mountainea
they say, give this.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
One day he was shooting. Man, it looks just like
the video.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Brilliant And if you remember Mark Knopfler plays the guitar
on that, of.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Course, because who else is going to make it sound
as the way as good as it did.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Where I went to him and said, hey, I want
to parody money for nothing, and Mark Knopfler said, well,
only if I get to play the.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Guitar and weird.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
I was like, hey, heck, yeah, duh, all right, I
got a tidbit for you. Francis fort Coppola visited the
set of UHF.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Sure makes sense.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
He visited because he was considering shooting The Godfather Part
three in Tulsa.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Oh wow, oh okay, just and went to go see
his old friend Gray Frederickson or whatever his name is, right, It.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Just it baffles me that The Godfather Apocalypse Now and
UHF have similar bloodlines.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
It's crazy, right, It is crazy the reception for both
of these.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Now we talked about how Pee Wee's big adventure was
a sleeper hit cost six or seven million bucks, makes
forty million bucks and out the gate it blows the
doors off, mainly because like the studio didn't believe in it,
and they said, look, okay, we're going to open this
in just a few theaters. You guys, go promote it,
however you want to promote it, and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
So Pee Wee goes on MTV, and MTV says, yeah,
let's do a live premiere at the.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Movie marketing genius on this movie really is Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
So they're the mtvv jays, Yes, and they're like, hey,
we're here with Pee Wee Herman and it's this red
carpet event and then bam, Eddie Murphy shows up, who
may have been the most famous person in the world
at that moment. Yeah, all of a sudden, it has
all this momentum.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
He's wearing a crown I believe, like King Richard crown
was from Camelot yea Arthur's crown, and Pee said he
kept that for years afterwards until they sent him a
letter saying we're going to sue you, and then he
was like back yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
So initially this opened the same weekend as European Vacation.
It didn't get broad released until a few weeks after,
so that's its competition was a little more like Real
Genius and Weird Science. But Pee Wee Mania was a
real thing in the mid eighties. Absolutely absolutely, Now, let's
talk about the reception for UHF. When Oriyan first screamed this,
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it was one of the highest rated screenings they'd ever had.
People loved this, they thought it was hilarious, it's so funny.
But when they dropped it, it was buried by Indiana
Jones and a whole lot.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
List of those incredible movies from the summer of nineteen
eighty nine, What Can You Do, Batman, Batman, Batman, just Batman.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Alone, the Summer of the bat Tim Burton buried uhfah which,
by the way, we don't get Batman in its current
form without the success Pee was Big Adventure.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
It's crazy. Yep. Yeah, all right, we're on the final judgment.
D Okay, let's do it. Okay, you want me to
go first.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Let me go first, because I know, I think you
know where I stand. Yours is the one that's the
most in question, I think, Okay, sure, So I love
both of these movies. I have a connection with UHF
because it was filmed when I was a teenager in
my hometown. I remember when they were filming it. I've
been to these places many many times, and you and
I went there and had a great time.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
The other day. By the way. I had this question
when you were growing up, did you see the billboard
that SAIDs bachel A City on it? Because they left
it up for years. It was like, what what is that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah, billboard intels and they left it up for a
long time. Yeah, Okay, I enjoy UHF. But I want
to be clear, pee Wee's Big Adventure perfectly executed what
they were trying to do. It's clever, it's funny, it's ridiculous,
and for that moment in time, it is the better movie.
(37:09):
It was a nuclear bomb at the end of the
summer in nineteen eighty five. I think it's by far
the better of the two movies.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Okay, So, as you all know, I didn't see this
movie until this week, the first time I saw Pee
Wee's Big Adventure. Uhef. We didn't talk about this, but
I saw it in this same theater that I saw
Batman in and that I also saw Vacation, Risky Business
and Trading Places in when I was seven years old. Yes,
I was in California in eighty nine when these movies
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came out and watched them both and absolutely loved them both.
In nineteen eighty nine and so there's a significant amount
of nostalgia for me for UHF. And so I really
never had a huge desire to watch pee Wee's Big Adventure.
I laughed out loud when I watch pee Wee at
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the Big Top, Big Top Peewee. And so I don't
know why I didn't ever really want to go watch
Peeb's Big Adventure, but I just never did. And so
I watched this week, and I genuinely I laughed out
loud multiple times, and I kept thinking to myself as
I was watching, I'm like, gosh, is this is this
better than UHF? Right? And I start I'm like that
chuckling quite a bit on this right now. UHF. I've
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seen a bunch of times. I watched it again today.
I was weeping with laughter when I watched UHF. Wow,
I mean these are I mean it's been it's probably
been a few years since I've seen it, but I
still just it's so funny, it's so dumb and so wonderful.
(38:44):
And so maybe it is a nostalgia factor. I don't know,
But even as an adult, I mean, my gosh, Raoul's
Wild Kingdom, I was I was dying. I was dying.
So I will fully admit pee Wee is good. It's
even real good. It is not the greatness of uhf
(39:07):
uhf is in my mind a landslide winner against pee
Wee's big really landslide landslide that maybe.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Your first time you have taken a landslide and I've
taken a landslide and we're opposing.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Yeah, you know, for the record, about ten years.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Ago, maybe maybe fifteen years ago, I was taking my
children somewhere and I had your children in the car
with me, and it was back in the days when
you had a little drop down TV screen and I
put in Peebe's Big Adventure and your daughter, your oldest daughter,
Blathe was cracking up and did not want to get
out of the car when we stopped.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
She would have been fifteen years ago, she had been
about seven. Yeah, yeah, it sounds about right. Yeah, there
you go. Yeah, she's about to go to law school.
Isn't that weird? It's crazy? You're welcome. Yeah, she got
to see the end. I wonder now, and she may
have never seen the end of Peeb's Big Adventure. And
it gets better as a gutter and better. Yep. So
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all right, people, we want to hear from you. What
did you think?
Speaker 4 (40:11):
How do we do?
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Yeah? You tell us? Am I right? Is Jason Wright.
I think this is a wonderful matchup and a great
double feature to watch with your kids. You can watch
these movies. We really can't with it with the kids
of any age, assuming they're not going to be put
off by a man being split in half or somebody's
dumping cut off.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
It is.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
It is great family fun.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
You know one other thing I wanted to mention so
you talked about there there are just a couple of
minorly offensive parts of UHF maybe for young children. My
daughter told me, My daughter Ava told me that her
boyfriend was scared of Pee Wee's Big Adventure because when
Large Marge goes and he was like as a kid,
he was like, oh my gosh, that's scared of crap
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out of me.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Oh last tidbit, she did not blink the entire time
she filmed that scene. That's all right, yep, good times.
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Next episode, we are doing Christopher Cross Greatest Hits versus
air Supplies Greatest Hits.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Ooh that that sounds like some soft rock goal to me, buddy,
get it on with the yacht rocks. Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
All right, hey, that was chosen by our Patreon GPS.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Can't wait to cover it. That'll be some genuinely fun stuff.
All right, guys, we will see you back then. Christopher
Cross in Air Supply. I love it. Bye guy, Bye guys,
Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Welcome to the comedic clash of the century, weird Owl's
UHF versus Peewee's big adventure in this corner, standing a
surprising six feet tall the Sultan of Satire, the master
of mirth, the Ace of the accordion, weird Al Yankovic.
Will his polka powered pile driver punches be enough to
tear Peewee's playhouse down? The word for today, Ladies and Gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Is painted side. Next up, lesbian Nazi hookers abducted by
UFOs and forced into weight loss programs.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
But first, look what I got for you here?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
To be a tweaky weener sandwich your favorite.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
You have a cup of milk for me to dip
it in.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Did you know he had to eat seven of those
to finish that dead take?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Have you tried it? No? Oh man, I thought about
bringing some today. I thought about getting some twinkies, some
cheese with and some oscar Myer wieners and rows. I'd
try it. I'd try it. Yeah, not dipped. Welcome back, everybody.
We are here for part two of our comparison of
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weird Al Yankovic's u HF and Pee Wee Herman's Pee
Wee's Big Adventure. We are jumping back into casting. We
covered on our first part the how these shows came
to be and the casting for Pee Wee's Big Adventure.
Now we're going to jump into casting for u h F.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Fine Ryan, Now UHF. We already talked about how Jay Levy,
who was weird Al's best friend manager manager, directs this movie.
Of course it stars weird Al.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Jay Levy does have a part in this movie. Yes,
he does, kind of a prominent part, a very memorable part,
for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
He plays Gandhi two Gandhi Too. He's here to kick button,
eat a steak.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I mean he does a pretty good Hindu guru for
a you know, short Jewish guy.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Really, you know, hey, one of the tidbits on Gandhi Too. Yes,
they rented a Ferrari, which you and I stood in
that alley we did, And they rented that ferrari and
Gandhi's beating the crap out of some guy and he
slams his head down in the ferrari. It actually made
a dent in the Ferrari. And they only have a
small budget.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, it's a small budget movie, and they.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Were able to kind of pop out that dent on
the Ferrari.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Wow. Okay, so let's talk about the cast. Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
So you have mister weird Al Yankovic as George Newman.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Okay, how's this for our new Friday night lineup? Eight
o'clock Druids on Parade, then the Volcano Worshippers.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Hour, followed by Underwater Bengo for teams and.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Fun with Dirt. George Newman. By the way, George Newman
gets his last name from Weird Owl's Love of the
Mad magazine franchise, whose key character is Alfred E Newman.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Alfred you Newman?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
That's correct.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Then you have David bo David Bowie.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
No Bo Bo Bowe, who plays Bob. How could you
do this to me? I knew this was gonna happen.
You're right, Bob, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
What can I say?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I'm a miserable, worthless sonk of slime here. I want
you to take this crowbarn.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Just bash my head right in. Go ahead, really, please
bash it right in. George, you know I couldn't do that.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
You still want me five bucks? Bob Okay, who also
plays the clown.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
You know he got his lip split when he smacked
him in the face with that pan.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
The there are two injuries that occur in one injury
that occurs in each of these movies. The first one
that you have just alluded to is weird. I was
supposed to stop short with the frying pan and it
didn't and split open David Bow's lip. And so the
take you get when he comes back up and he's
shaking his head is genuine. He actually got hit. The
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only reason you don't see his lip bleeding is because
of the clown makeup he's wearing. That's right. I got
another clown story coming up on a little bit later
when we get a further down casting. And then in
Peewee's Big Adventure, when he's doing the dance in the
barroom with the big old stiletto shoes and he hits
his head, he really hit his head. Genuine reaction there
as well.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Paul Rubbins says, he knocked the crap out of that
bar or whatever it was. Yeah, and that's the take
they used.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
YEA. By the way, David.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Bow, he's done eight billion commercials.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
You see. You saw his face a whole lot back
in the eighties, that's for sure. I remember seeing him in.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Stuff and a bunch of stuff, but never really amounted
too much.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Not a star, he's he's a guy who does a
lot of advertisements. But perfect for this part.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
You know who they wanted to play that part. They
offered the role too, right before his fortunes changed. Tell
me Jerry Seinfeld.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Oh, that's right, he was offered the part. Is weird
Al's best friend? Yeah, And so that would have been
an interesting connection, of course, because Jerry Seinfeld and Michael
Richards go on to start together in Seinfeld.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
You have Jerry and Kramer who could have been in Uajeff.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Wow, that's crazy. So you might as well just talk
about Michael Richards. Why we got him right there?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
He plays Stanley Spadowski.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
George. You know, I was wondering, like if you were
traveling through outer space. I mean, I you go on
real fast, like the speed of light, you know, and
all of a sudden you start screaming up. You think
that your brain would blow up. Brilliant. He stole the movie, right.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
You said that, and I thought he did steal the movie.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
He absolutely stole the movie. And so they had seen
him perform his stand up and were very interested in
having him be this part. And just as a personal story,
I will tell you this. You know, I was a
theater major in college and when we would do our
auditions for like you auditioned, your first audition was for
all of the shows that they were doing that season,
right sure, and you would do two monologues, one serious
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and one usually comedic, and then you had to sing
a song. The songs were pointless for guys like me
because I knew I wasn't going to be in a
musical right and so I had this serious bit, which
was really moving, serious bit. I didn't have anything funny.
And I happened to catch UHF and I see Michael
Richards saying this is my new mop and I see
him and you know, and it finishes like he goes
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through this and he gets so intense and he's like,
these floors are dirty as hell. I'm not gonna take
it anymore. Yeah, And I'm like I sat there with
with EHS and I wrote down everything, did that as
my monologue, Like I went from siious and I went,
you know, you have this moment of transition. I went
like this, and then it went into it. I got
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called back to every single show, including the musicals. Can't
sing a lick got called back to the musicals because
and every single director was like, I loved I loved
the UHF bit. I loved watching you transition from whatever.
I don't even remember what the serious piece was that
I did, but that switch. But I was watching this
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with Brock earlier today and I was like, listen to
this bit. I literally started to tear up. It was
so it was just like it just brings back memories.
That's fun, man, I love it.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Okay, you also have fran Dresser.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Hi, I'm George Newman. I'm the new station manager.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Cool.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
You know when I first took this job, they told
me that this position was only temporary and that eventually,
when the time was right, I would be moved up
to news, which is really my forte.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
You know how long I've been working here?
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Oh, y is it's kind of hard to get promoted
when every other week you have a new boss.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
This job really sucks.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And this is my friend Bob. Hi, nice to meet you.
The nanny.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
The nanny she plays Pamela Finkelstein. Hello, Pamela Finkelstein.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
She and Victoria Jackson are both convinced that they both
got the job because they had nasally annoying voices.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
So to Victoria Jackson, she plays Terry, yes, George's girlfriend
and then not girlfriend. She looks really cute in this.
I had a total crush on Victoria Jackson when I
was a kid man. I just thought she was pretty
and sweet and just seemed like a nice girl next door.
Kind of bubbly, kind of dumb, yeah, seemingly. And I
have read the other people who auditioned for this. Jennifer
(08:27):
Tilly who too hot, she has been hot for forty
five years. Too hot, yes, and then Ellen de Generes,
she's never been in her life, she's been mildly not
even kind of very successful. But yeah, brilliant, brilliant comedian,
brilliant actress. Absolutely yeah, not okay.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I want to talk about Kevin McCarthy, who plays R. J.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Fletcher. You shouldn't have happy Father's Day, Dad? What is it.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Our roles?
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah? So Kevin McCarthy. Every time I think of him,
I think of Interspace, which is another movie that we
have to cover, right, and it's he plays in that
the same type of character. But they picked him because
he was in that same kind of stage at his
career as Leslie Nielsen was when they made the movie
Airplane and they were like, we want some guy who's
done all this serious stuff, who's you know, reaching his
(09:26):
gray days, and we want him to be our straight villain.
Back in the fifties, he was in the original Invasion
of the Body Snatchers was also he was in when
they remade it with Donald Sutherland as well. He was
a part of that as well. And as I said,
I've seen an interspace and he was also hit a
Twilight Zone episode where he played a history professor who
(09:46):
never aged, so kind of a cool idea, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah, I do know that as they were filming UHF
and the scenes where he had to be particularly nasty,
he would be like and then they would say cut
and then he would us step laughing.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, like he said, they said, he laughed the entire time.
They feel mistassic. Oh and we know we also talked
about him. He was in the Howling. That's right, he
was Howling. I forgot all about that. Wow.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah, go back to season one where we talked Howling
versus American Werewolf in London.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Great episode. Wow.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Okay, I want to talk about Anthony Gary. Okay, he
plays Filo. Yeah, do you recognize him? I know you
do because we talked about it.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
But well, I told you I don't know where in
my life, but because it's been years ago, but I
saw some sort of behind the scenes or making of
or something like that where they're interviewing them later on
in life, and I see him and I'm like, who
was he in this? Because he's this good looking. I'm like,
I recognize it. He looks like a soap opera guy.
And then sure enough, a little bit later, he's like,
I did all this stuff on General Hospital and there
(10:46):
this was this opportunity. So do you know who they
wrote this character for? Who's that? Joel Hotchon? He had
he had a stand up routine where he would have
these crazy inventions. Was kind of a bad scientist guy,
but he was just starting to do Mystery Science Theory
three thousand and he's like, sorry, guys, I'm not gonna
do this wow. And so that gave what's his name,
(11:06):
Gary Anthony, Gary Anthony, Gary, the opportunity to go, hey,
I love weird al and I would love to do
this character that is not at all like the anthem
soap opera actor that I play every day on General Hospital.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Okay, so I have never watched soap operas in my life.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, okay, I don't believe you.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
But but I have heard of Luke and Laura. Yeah,
he played Luke Luke eighties heart Throb, General Hospital TV star.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, and now he's the mad Science For me, it's
Bow and Hope. Those the days of our lives. Guy,
I'm not kidding. Like when I was in high school,
Like I'd never watched it as a young person, but
like in high school, I would go pick up my
friend at his house and be like, hold on, I've
got it the v He would record the VHS and
like as we're eating breakfa're eating bowls of cereal, about
to go to school, We're watching the yesterday's days of
(11:59):
our life. My gosh, wow, what can I say? It
was exciting.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Do you know who they wanted to play Pilo Crispin Glover.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Oh that would have been interesting. Yeah, okay, I.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
See him as a kookie mad scientist. Yeah you know why.
He didn't play that part. So they offered it to
Crispin Glover. He came back to them and said, I've
read the script and I want to play the used
car salesman.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
And nothing else. Okay, all right, Crispin, thank you. We'll
call you crazy. Don't call us, We'll call you. Where
do you get so many cars?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
If you don't come down to buy a car, I'm
gonna club this baby Seal.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Crispin Glover too weird. That's great.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
I also want to point out Billy Bartie.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
He is the little person, is the little cameraman down
here at Tuts.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah yeah, and uh he's the one that John Parragon
trips and falls face face plants.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah, outside of city Hall, just revenge at the end
of the movie. It's so funny. Yes, brilliant part.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
He was in a movie that I loved as a
kid called foul Play. I was on a film by
podcast talking about foul Play with Chevy Chase and Goldie Hawn,
like their first movie.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I feel like he might have been kind of a
major player in Under the Rainbow as he was. Yeah, okay,
Under the Rainbow Chevy Chase and Carrie Fisher in her
bra Yausler.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
All right, we also have in this movie Geddy want
to nobby Hey cooney.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Hoy you dog?
Speaker 5 (13:34):
It was class today.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Huh? This stupid.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Geddy wanted to nobby. What's happened in hot stuff? There's
a weird Chinese guy in what do you mentioning about?
I got to sleep under a guy named after a
duck stork.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
When are we gonna talk about sixteen candles? I guess
nicklick long dug dung.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yes, want a Toby man gotta love it?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah, he plays Cooney and his big line is there's a.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Stupid and he is the wheel of fish guy. He
is the will of fish guy. Which I've got a
great tidbit on that when we get to that tidbits part. Okay, yes,
very good, all right. You also have Trinidad Silva.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Hey Man's and welcome to ra Wild Kingdom, coming to you.
Lie from my apartment about that.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Okay, this is this is our tragedy. This is where
the fun and happy takes a sad turn. So you
will remember Trinidad Silva because he was Raoul's Wild Kingdom, right.
He's he has got all of the animals. He sticks
the licks, the turtle throws it so to stick on
the ceiling. And of course he's teaching the poodles how
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to fly today sometimes they don't get it on the
first one. Yeah, I was watching this with Rock to
day and Brock busted out laughing at that seat of like,
you can't not laugh at that brilliant party he does
the Badgers. We don't need no stinking Badgers. Yeah, brilliantly performed.
He had been in a few things like his kind
of gang members on like Hill Street Blues and some
(15:08):
other stuff like this, And they started filming this in
mid July July twenty eighth. I Believety on July thirty first,
July thirty one is what I have yet. Okay, So
July thirty first, he and his family, wife and son
are leaving church and a drunk driver runs a red light.
(15:29):
Neither he nor his son are buckled. They're both thrown
from the vehicle. His son has minor injuries, wife survives.
He was thrown a hundred feet and killed on impact,
which is tragic. I had no idea. I just I
literally thought to myself when I would watch this movie,
I'm like, why didn't they Why didn't they bring him back?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Like he should have been involved, should have been at
the end.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
He was. He was supposed to be a major part
of the telethon that they were doing, and they considered,
They're like, should we recast this and film his scenes
over again? And they just couldn't bring themselves to do
it right, and so they just said, let's leave it
as it is and just not have his part, just
not do it. Dedicated the movie to him, and weird,
how's never been an alcohol drinker. He's a tee, told her,
(16:10):
told her his whole life vegetarian too. Yeah, but he
had been approached to do like a multi million dollar
beer commercial campaign and he turned it down in part
because of his own beliefs, but also in major part
because he had lost this guy that very beginning of
production due to drunk driving. So, wow, tragic story, you know,
a great legacy, you know that that he would have
(16:32):
this such a memorable, wonderful part in his final film. Yes, okay, I.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Want to bring up Vance Koenig Junior.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Okay, I sent you a video today. Did you look
at it today? Okay? So you just you just said
Vance Conig Junior. Yes, So Vance Koenig Senior went by
a nickname called Pinto. He was Pinto Covid. Okay, yeah, Covid, Covid, right, Colvic.
But he's basically your last name. Close your last name
(17:00):
with a G instead of an N, right, and so
Pinto Colvig was the voice for the original Goofy, What
Original Goofy. He was the voice for Bluto in Popeye Wow.
And he was the original voice for Bozo the Clown Wow,
(17:20):
now Bozo the Clown. Bozo the Clown started off as
just a read along record that went along with a book,
and it didn't become a TV thing until later. One
of the guys who would go and do like the
personal appearances when they were promoting their read along book
stuff bought the rights to it, and ultimately he franchised
it out to local TV studios who would have their
(17:43):
own Bozo the Clown. The very first Bozo the Clown
that was on TV that got this franchise was Vance Colvig, junior,
son of the original Bozo. He was the first one
to play Bozo on TV. Really, yes, and he's in
the Hobo. He is playing the Hobo and you and you.
(18:03):
If you grew up in the eighties, you almost certainly
remember the just a Jiggielow video with David Lee Roth.
He is a major He is a major part. He's
the funny little looks like a woman part in Uh,
he's dressed up as a woman for this, but he's
done a bunch of these little character roles and stuff
like this.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Man, you turned over some rocks right there.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
That's great. You know who auditioned for that part and
got turned down. I don't know if he auditioned or
if he just said I want to do it. It
was Ginger Baker from Cream, the drummer for Cream. Yeah,
play that part. Yeah, amazing.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Okay, we already mentioned. But John Peregon plays Junior Fletcher, right,
r J Fletcher Junior right?
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Oh did I do that? Ooops?
Speaker 3 (18:46):
And John Peregon was like great friends with Paul Rubins,
one of the groundlings, Yeah, and was really like one
of the leaders of that group.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah, he played the genie yeah, like a hed Right.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
One more person I want to bring up to you.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Belinda Bauer plays one of the mud wrestlers in one
of the little shorts that they show for you, the.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
One where they were wrestling with Okay, wow, that's okay,
dive right there. Okay, that's that is a one and
a half second clip at best, right.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Right, So one of the mud wrestlers, Belinda Bauer is
her name, Okay, Okay, she's a model because she's babe.
You know that's not She goes on to become a
psychologist and is working like a practicing psychologist in La
right now. Fantastic mud wrestling to psychology.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
That is fantastic.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
There you go, all right, one last thing on casting
before we transition out here. There was a cameo that
was scheduled to be in UHF okay of course where
Al plays Rambo, which we covered earlier this season.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I liked it better than I liked the Rambo movie. Honestly,
he's blowing up stuff raw ra.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah, so that's just the Loan was posed to have
a cameo as the helicopter pilot booth worker.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Oh, that would have been brilliant.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Where Now and Sly had a common friend and Sly
agreed to be in it, but just couldn't quite make
it happen.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Oh, it's too bad. That would have been a lot
of fun. Okay, So I got one more casting thing.
This is this is a this is a deep cut,
and this is me personal personally. So the fish lady,
you know this play in the game show. We have
the Wheel of Fish right right, Yeah, and she's the
one that she gets the red Snapper and he's like,
are you gonna hold your red snapper or are you
going to take what's in the box?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
You know?
Speaker 1 (20:34):
And it opened the box and.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
It's nothing box the box.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
I take the box.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, so stupid. Okay, So that's Lisa Stephonic, which will
probably be meaningless unless you happen to be in the
acting world in Tulsa, which I was back in nineteen
ninety seven ninety eight. Lisa Stephonic taught school at Tulsa
Community College, which I was going to for a time.
She directed plays and I was not only her student.
(21:00):
I was an actor in a play that she directed.
Phyllis Weaver is the Fish Lady, the Red Snapper Lady.
That was a personal friend of How about that? Yeah
that's good. Yeah, all right, we're on to tidbits before
we hit final judgment. Let's do it. Okay, what's going
on off for? We're looking for an escaped convict, ma'am.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
You're all about it on the radio, right, honey? Have
you seen this man? Better head fun boiled.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
I've got some crazy tidbits for you. I can't wait
to tell you about this, all right, So the first
tidbit that I want to give to you, which absolutely
blew my mind when I first discovered this, okay because
I didn't recognize them. But at the very beginning of
Batman Returns, this is post Paul Rubens getting busted at
a X rated movie theater spanking the monkey.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Okay, at the beginning.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Of the sequel to Batman, of course, that's that's the
Tim Burton movie Burton, right, all right, right, Michael Keaton, Oh.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
We're right.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
He plays He's like the rich he's got he's the
rich guy with the rich wife.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Paul Rubins plays Penguin's father, Yes, and his wife is
Diane Salinger.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
That's Simone.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
So pee Wee and Simone are the penguin's mother and
father at the beginning of Batman return fantastic.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yep, that's right. How about that? Right? Yes, And not
that we need to get into too Paul Rubens arrest
or anything, but pretty good recovery. I mean number one,
getting Tim to to cast you as a kind of
a key but small role in the Batman Returns, but
then also coming onto the MTV video music worts like
(22:45):
I remember that happening.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
People lost their mind.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Everybody stood up, was applauding, like as I think about
it now, and I mean I had no idea what
it might and I still don't, but as an adult
you kind of get a better frame to empathize with
somebody who might go through something like that. And how
devastating that is. I mean, number one, you're trying to
keep your sexuality a secret from people because that was
(23:11):
the time that it was not okay, right, and so
that it gets a little gets a little touchy. But
to go through that, to see this kind of devastating,
I mean, because his career wasn't doing much at the
moment anyway, but have this devastating moment and then to
do the pr to go, let's have you come out
at the MTV Music Wars and you're going through this
(23:32):
and you can see on his face, you can see
his fear and doubt about what he's about to do.
And then you see the entire auditorium standing up, screaming,
clapping and chanting his name. It kind of made me
tear up to it.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
It was like, guys are hurting any good jokes lately?
Brilliant so Funnyken fun at himself. Ladies and gentlemen, MTV
is proud to introduce someone who has been a friend
for a long time.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Thank you, thank thank you, Chap Tap, thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Thank you That Hill.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Heard any good jokes lately?
Speaker 3 (25:11):
What was that.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
So funny? I forgot to laugh?
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Yeah, okay, tidbit for you.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
The drive in at the very end where he's we
have all the people, all the characters that he's kind
of weaved in and out. The biker guy's there, you know,
Mickey's in the convict bus. Yeah, you know, Dotty's there.
That drive in is the same drive in that Sandy
and Danny are.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
At in Greece exactly, and you have the same let's
all go to the lobby cartoon that plays in both scenarios.
How about that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
One of the things that also blew my mind when
Peter's Big Adventure came out. I was twelve, so I
had not ever seen a Chiechen.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Chong movie at that point, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
In Chichen Chong's next movie, Night eighty, you have an
appearance of Pee Wee Herman.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, he's he's playing a hotel clerk. It's like hotel
clerk slash Pee Wee you know, is my character? Yeah,
later on that night, you see him as pee Wee
doing his stand up.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah, Chiechen Junger in the crowd. They're giving him a
hard time, right, right right. One of the very early
cinematic appearances of.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Pee Wee Herman well right, So the throwback is when
he's in his movie where James Roland is p W.
Herman and Morgan Fairchild is Dottie. He again is playing
a hotel clerk. So great, great bit because he keeps
looking at the camera and then when he speaks, it's
this obvious voiceover actor Herman aging, mister Herman, mister Herman,
(26:46):
you have a telephone call at the front desk. Now,
I will say this, I remember watching The Blues Brothers
and seeing him as a waiter in the bo. That's
freaking pee Wee. He's still kind of the same kind
of character. I mean, he's kind of nerdy. I told
you well, I don't know if we've thought it was
nineteen eighty, I was nineteen eighty.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
I don't know if we've talked about this or not,
but he is playing a hotel clerk in PW and Dottie.
You know, the James Bond version of Peewee's story, and
he's a person who's acting poorly, but you can tell
he's trying to act well and he keeps accidentally looking
at the camera but then also like trying to recover
from it. Brilliant performance and so funny. So also just
(27:29):
me personally, anytime I'm in church or whatever, I'm testing
a Mica A Jane mister Herman. So okay, at the
end of the movie, at the drive in Francis shows
up and you have these people who are interviewing him.
One of the people that is like the photographer, that's
Michael Barhall, the guy one of the writers for this movie.
(27:49):
And then Phil Hartman is playing the reporter who's actually
interviewing him. So you have the writers of the movie
making a cameo at the very end. You know, we
talked about Dottie E. G.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Daily.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Yeah, they looked at Lori Laughlin, Laura Dern, Phoebe Kate's,
Leah Thompson, and Jennifer Jason Lee as possible dotties.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah, kind of a who's who of actresses. Yes, and
Elizabeth Dailey is very attractive, but that's a that's a
list of hotties right there that's probably out of reach. Yeah,
nobody would believe that they were. And maybe that's the point.
Nobody would believe even that Dotty was obsessed with we
(28:29):
you know, his kind of refusal of her is comedic
gold in my mind.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
It's perfect twelve year old boy girl stuff. And actually
she does a brilliant job of she longs for him,
but she's also trying to keep it under wraps. And
you know, I want you to ask me.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
What you know, just goofy kids stuff. She does a
great job.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
And then last thing, Yep, we have got to make
a trip to San Antonio because just announced, Yeah, the
bike is at the Alamo on display.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
This year twenty twenty five. There are like multiple bikes,
but yes, one of the one of the key bikes
is now on display at the Alamo. And the Alamo
also now has a basement. I don't know if they
put the bicycle in the basement or not, but they should.
I went.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
I visited the Alamo a few years ago with my kids, Yes,
and I constantly kept like elbowing them saying, should I
ask them if there's a basement?
Speaker 1 (29:30):
By the way, we didn't mention this, but another great
cameo part. I guess it was that was eighty five.
This may have been before she was on Saturday Night Live.
But Jan Hooks, Jan Hooks is the tour guy. Yeah,
and she ad libbed all of that, improved, all of it.
Brilliant too, che in her gum talking in her Southern accent.
It was great. He'm very proud of her.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Blanket. Hold all questions till the end. All right, So
let's hit tidbits for u.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Hf right, so commanding, so powerful, so deadly. He's Conan
the Librarian. All right.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
One of the actors that has a bit part in
this movie is Emo Phillips.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yes, I will just say this. A joke to this
day that I still use is an Emo Phillips joke
where you're talking about something and you're like and you
know and And this year they had Haley's Comet, or
as some people say, Haley's Comit the guy is weird funny,
(30:36):
but this I was weeping when his scene happened in
this It's funny because they will if they show this
on TV, they'll take out the part where he's teaching
the poodles how to fly, but they will not remove
the severed thumb squirting blood. All of boy, am I
red in the face. This genius? Now there was more
(30:59):
to it. This is this peach. This movie got a
PG thirteen Radio thirteen because of the poodles, and they
actually the conen the librarian part. That's the other part
that brought left out out. That was funny. Sorry, these
are a little bit late, but yeah, they wanted to
take those out to get I don't think it's a
(31:21):
PG thirteen movie at all, but I can see, you know,
maybe you don't want your five year old kid watching
somebody throw a poodle out of a three stories cut
their fingers off, right, But I guess the cutting the
finger off part, you know, Emo being the weird humor
that he is, he's it's like, can you find it?
And they actually he finds it, he gives it to him.
(31:41):
He's like, well, they say to keep it warm, and
he sticks it in his mouth. That's funny. That's good
humor right there. That is I'm sorry it didn't make
the cut, if you will pardon the punt.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
I did see him on the weird Al behind the music,
Emo Phillips like show the camera his residual check for
UHF thirty.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Cents thirty cents he said, this is the impact it
had on my career. That's funny. Yeah, I do know
that they used real fish on the wheel of Fish.
Oh yeah. Not only did they use real fish, they
bought them at the fish market that morning. I can't
remember what the fish market is there in Tulsa, but
they went to the fish market in Tulsa, bought it
(32:27):
early that morning, started putting the wheel together because you
got to balance the fish so that the wheel actually spins. Yeah,
they didn't start shooting until four thirty in the afternoon.
And they were shooting in July and August in Tulsa, Oklahoma,
with one hundred people in the room. It was hi man,
(32:47):
hot and dead fish not refrigerated. That's right, it was ripe.
That's awesome. Okay.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
One other tidbit that I got for you on uhf
yes in the middle of the movie.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Maybe the one of the.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Bright parts of the movie is you have the Beverly.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Hillbillies, dire Straits, dire Straits, ready for Nothing, parody.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
The Little Story about You, O song, Fat Bull mountainea
they say, give this.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
One day he was shooting. Man, it looks just like
the video.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Brilliant And if you remember Mark Knopfler plays the guitar
on that, of.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Course, because who else is going to make it sound
as the way as good as it did.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Where I went to him and said, hey, I want
to parody money for nothing, and Mark Knopfler said, well,
only if I get to play the.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Guitar and weird.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
I was like, hey, heck, yeah, duh, all right, I
got a tidbit for you. Francis fort Coppola visited the
set of UHF.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Sure makes sense.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
He visited because he was considering shooting The Godfather Part
three in Tulsa.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Oh wow, oh okay, just and went to go see
his old friend Gray Frederickson or whatever his name is, right, It.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Just it baffles me that The Godfather Apocalypse Now and
UHF have similar bloodlines.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
It's crazy, right, It is crazy the reception for both
of these.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Now we talked about how Pee Wee's big adventure was
a sleeper hit cost six or seven million bucks, makes
forty million bucks and out the gate it blows the
doors off, mainly because like the studio didn't believe in it,
and they said, look, okay, we're going to open this
in just a few theaters. You guys, go promote it,
however you want to promote it, and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
So Pee Wee goes on MTV, and MTV says, yeah,
let's do a live premiere at the.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Movie marketing genius on this movie really is Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
So they're the mtvv jays, Yes, and they're like, hey,
we're here with Pee Wee Herman and it's this red
carpet event and then bam, Eddie Murphy shows up, who
may have been the most famous person in the world
at that moment. Yeah, all of a sudden, it has
all this momentum.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
He's wearing a crown I believe, like King Richard crown
was from Camelot yea Arthur's crown, and Pee said he
kept that for years afterwards until they sent him a
letter saying we're going to sue you, and then he
was like back yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
So initially this opened the same weekend as European Vacation.
It didn't get broad released until a few weeks after,
so that's its competition was a little more like Real
Genius and Weird Science. But Pee Wee Mania was a
real thing in the mid eighties. Absolutely absolutely, Now, let's
talk about the reception for UHF. When Oriyan first screamed this,
(35:40):
it was one of the highest rated screenings they'd ever had.
People loved this, they thought it was hilarious, it's so funny.
But when they dropped it, it was buried by Indiana
Jones and a whole lot.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
List of those incredible movies from the summer of nineteen
eighty nine, What Can You Do, Batman, Batman, Batman, just Batman.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Alone, the Summer of the bat Tim Burton buried uhfah which,
by the way, we don't get Batman in its current
form without the success Pee was Big Adventure.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
It's crazy. Yep. Yeah, all right, we're on the final judgment.
D Okay, let's do it. Okay, you want me to
go first.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Let me go first, because I know, I think you
know where I stand. Yours is the one that's the
most in question, I think, Okay, sure, So I love
both of these movies. I have a connection with UHF
because it was filmed when I was a teenager in
my hometown. I remember when they were filming it. I've
been to these places many many times, and you and
I went there and had a great time.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
The other day. By the way. I had this question
when you were growing up, did you see the billboard
that SAIDs bachel A City on it? Because they left
it up for years. It was like, what what is that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah, billboard intels and they left it up for a
long time. Yeah, Okay, I enjoy UHF. But I want
to be clear, pee Wee's Big Adventure perfectly executed what
they were trying to do. It's clever, it's funny, it's ridiculous,
and for that moment in time, it is the better movie.
(37:09):
It was a nuclear bomb at the end of the
summer in nineteen eighty five. I think it's by far
the better of the two movies.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Okay, So, as you all know, I didn't see this
movie until this week, the first time I saw Pee
Wee's Big Adventure. Uhef. We didn't talk about this, but
I saw it in this same theater that I saw
Batman in and that I also saw Vacation, Risky Business
and Trading Places in when I was seven years old. Yes,
I was in California in eighty nine when these movies
(37:39):
came out and watched them both and absolutely loved them both.
In nineteen eighty nine and so there's a significant amount
of nostalgia for me for UHF. And so I really
never had a huge desire to watch pee Wee's Big Adventure.
I laughed out loud when I watch pee Wee at
(38:01):
the Big Top, Big Top Peewee. And so I don't
know why I didn't ever really want to go watch
Peeb's Big Adventure, but I just never did. And so
I watched this week, and I genuinely I laughed out
loud multiple times, and I kept thinking to myself as
I was watching, I'm like, gosh, is this is this
better than UHF? Right? And I start I'm like that
chuckling quite a bit on this right now. UHF. I've
(38:24):
seen a bunch of times. I watched it again today.
I was weeping with laughter when I watched UHF. Wow,
I mean these are I mean it's been it's probably
been a few years since I've seen it, but I
still just it's so funny, it's so dumb and so wonderful.
(38:44):
And so maybe it is a nostalgia factor. I don't know,
But even as an adult, I mean, my gosh, Raoul's
Wild Kingdom, I was I was dying. I was dying.
So I will fully admit pee Wee is good. It's
even real good. It is not the greatness of uhf
(39:07):
uhf is in my mind a landslide winner against pee
Wee's big really landslide landslide that maybe.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Your first time you have taken a landslide and I've
taken a landslide and we're opposing.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Yeah, you know, for the record, about ten years.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Ago, maybe maybe fifteen years ago, I was taking my
children somewhere and I had your children in the car
with me, and it was back in the days when
you had a little drop down TV screen and I
put in Peebe's Big Adventure and your daughter, your oldest daughter,
Blathe was cracking up and did not want to get
out of the car when we stopped.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
She would have been fifteen years ago, she had been
about seven. Yeah, yeah, it sounds about right. Yeah, there
you go. Yeah, she's about to go to law school.
Isn't that weird? It's crazy? You're welcome. Yeah, she got
to see the end. I wonder now, and she may
have never seen the end of Peeb's Big Adventure. And
it gets better as a gutter and better. Yep. So
(40:08):
all right, people, we want to hear from you. What
did you think?
Speaker 4 (40:11):
How do we do?
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Yeah? You tell us? Am I right? Is Jason Wright.
I think this is a wonderful matchup and a great
double feature to watch with your kids. You can watch
these movies. We really can't with it with the kids
of any age, assuming they're not going to be put
off by a man being split in half or somebody's
dumping cut off.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
It is.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
It is great family fun.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
You know one other thing I wanted to mention so
you talked about there there are just a couple of
minorly offensive parts of UHF maybe for young children. My
daughter told me, My daughter Ava told me that her
boyfriend was scared of Pee Wee's Big Adventure because when
Large Marge goes and he was like as a kid,
he was like, oh my gosh, that's scared of crap
(40:54):
out of me.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Oh last tidbit, she did not blink the entire time
she filmed that scene. That's all right, yep, good times.
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Speaker 3 (41:29):
Next episode, we are doing Christopher Cross Greatest Hits versus
air Supplies Greatest Hits.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Ooh that that sounds like some soft rock goal to me, buddy,
get it on with the yacht rocks. Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
All right, hey, that was chosen by our Patreon GPS.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Can't wait to cover it. That'll be some genuinely fun stuff.
All right, guys, we will see you back then. Christopher
Cross in Air Supply. I love it. Bye guy, Bye guys,
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