December 23, 2025 • 39 mins
The madness continues. In Part 2 of their deep dive into the now-infamous Star Wars Holiday Special, Jason and Dee of Surely You Can’t Be Serious are once again joined by the guys from the 30something Movie Podcast to finish what they started. Having already crossed the point of no return, the crew pushes through the remaining skits, songs, and baffling story choices that somehow made it onto television. More celebrity appearances surface, the variety-show chaos escalates, and the line between endurance test and pop-culture archaeology completely disappears. In this episode, the guys not only break down what’s left of the special, but also wrestle with its legacy — how it became a whispered legend, a bootleg curiosity, and a rite of passage for Star Wars fans brave enough to seek it out. Was there anything worth saving? Or is its greatest contribution simply proving that even the biggest franchise in the world can spectacularly miss the mark? Strap in as the group reaches the end of the Wookiee-filled road and lives to tell the tale — barely.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome back everybody that surely you can't be serious podcast.
We are going to pick up right where we left
off the thirty something guys discussing.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
The Star Wars holiday special.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Time for some trivia on that note, Okay, characters will
show up in other movies? Which character from the prequel trilogy?
Prequel Trilogy makes a surprise appearance in Solo. I'm gonna
I'm gonna leave it that I got multiple choice, but
I feel like you're gonna know the answer anyway. John's
(00:41):
got his hand up. Anybody else which one?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Which character from the prequel trilogy? Yes, shows up in Solo?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yes, John has to answer last, given that he's the eleven. Yeah, okay, Pat,
what do you think Darth Maul?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Well, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yep, that's it.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
You got it?
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Okay, all right, you got that one.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
I could have got that one. I didn't think.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Okay, Okay. So we were talking masks earlier. Mala's mask
was repurposed from a Chewbacca mask from the original film,
and the actress that played Mallard was not an actress.
It was a man baby. They couldn't come up they
(01:29):
used to play this or whatever. Yeah, So the actor's
name is Mickey Morton, and he was not only Mala,
he was also Torque. And he was also Chief Gormanda's
second pair of arms.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
And I wonder he was reluctant to give it Art
Carney a kiss.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Already been hugging on the back of Carvey Korman.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Okay, do we want to talk about Mark Hamill in makeup?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
He had some guyliner going on, didn't he?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Oh my god?
Speaker 6 (02:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Have you seen That's terrible?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
It's really bad. Have you seen the pictures where they
like change the characters from Star Wars into the opposite gender,
where like Luke and Yeah are made to look like
their women. When I saw this, I was like, holy crap,
this is where they got the idea, because he's he's
got some major makeup going on in this one.
Speaker 7 (02:25):
Well, and I felt a little bad. Like one of
the first times I saw that, I was like, what
did they do? Like why did they just they they?
I don't know, He's got at least like seven coats on,
Like the first couple didn't take so they just kept going.
And but then I kind of felt bad about that
because I'm like, then I read up something on it
and They're like, well, it could have been because he
(02:45):
was in that really bad car accident and he needed
to have some additional makeup or yeah, so that maybe
I read something. I don't know how valid that is
or how accurate that is, but one of the things
I read said he was in such heavy makeup because
he had been in that near fatal car crash in.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Oh gosh, it was right. It was not long.
Speaker 7 (03:05):
After or actually right before Star Wars came out in
seventy seven.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, so it was the year before.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
See that's yeah, I don't buy that for one second,
because you don't need eyeliner to cover facial scars, and
he didn't wear all that crap and then fire strikes back.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yep, you guys are right. It's January of seventy seven,
is when into that accident.
Speaker 7 (03:25):
But now just a terrifying amount of makeup, so orange
he looks like franken Furder from Rocky Horror Picture Show?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Can we talk? Are we ready to talk about Kerrie
Fisher singing voice?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
We sure away.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Day? I loved it, Yeah, I loved it. I loved
that she looked like she was as high as a
king too. She's stone out of her gourd.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Listen, this is the last time that Carrie Fisher smiled
in any Star Wars anything. She was sad and Empire
strikes back. She was sad and returned the Jedi. She
was at least happy.
Speaker 7 (04:11):
Yeah, yeah, no, I mean that that scene in particular,
that was probably the the only for me, the only
couple of segments or scenes that made some of it bearable.
Like if I was gonna fast forward and I know,
I don't remember who it was earlier. That might have
been Dentis or I did somebody else was saying to me,
(04:32):
I don't know. The b Arthur scene. If you take
out the weird you know, sexual harassment from the guy
who drinks through his head. If you take that out,
to me, that wasn't even a bad scene. I mean,
if you're gonna do you're gonna do something in the
Star Wars canteena at least that one takes place in
a Star Wars location, and you've got Star Wars characters.
Like some of the other acts, they're not they're completely
(04:53):
devoid of Star Wars. Like you could remove it from
the Star Wars Holiday special, drump dump it in some
other holiday special and it would have been totally fine.
So the b Arthur song like that was actually one
of my I don't want to say favorite, that's really
too strong of a word, but that was that was
one of the most tolerable parts parts of this whole thing.
And then the Princess Leah part too. Like everything else,
(05:14):
I totally tossed that out the window. Those to me,
that in the in the Boat of Het cartoon, which
I'm sure we'll talk about too, but those are really
like the only three parts that I'm even quasi okay
with in this whole thing.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I kind of dig the Jefferson Starship song, and I
thought that was and it kind of looks like he's
trying to impale his head with a lightsaber while he's
singing it.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Yeah, if only they would have sung we built this city.
That would have helped.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
They could have switched up there.
Speaker 7 (05:46):
They probably didn't want to spoil anything, but they could
have done we built cloud City.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Oh, that would have been great.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Man would have been nice. That'd have been nice.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
One of the things that I thought was funny. Okay, So,
mister star Wars gig, John, does it bother you that
they called the wikie planet Kazook the whole time.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
Yeah, well yeah, I mean yeah, I kind of I
kind of knew about that, so I just kind of
was like, all right, all right, it had never been
mentioned before. We'll we'll chalk this up as a well,
I'm just gonna chalk it up as a hand han
Leah Leah.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Kazuk kashik. We'll just do that.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
It's people don't know how to pronounce names in the
Star Wars universe, so I'm totally fine the.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Death of that stormtrooper would not be noticed apparently by anyone.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
It's like, I'm.
Speaker 8 (06:30):
Gonna say, the one thing that helped is when Hans soloked,
the one thing that made me laugh.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Hansol was like, oh wow, what did he say?
Speaker 8 (06:37):
He said something like they're gonna see him down there,
or they're gonna find him eventually or something and or
whatever his comment was. It was just his offhand like
oh yeah, and then he just picks up the gun
and just kind of drops it over. Why was that
so funny to be? I don't know, but he's just like, oh, yeah,
they're gonna find those guys who drops the gun.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Okay, you do get a great Willem scream right before
that storm, yes to his death.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
So I'm just wondering how the investigation is going to
go when they go up there and they find the
guy that was left with them to watch them, and
they see the broken railing.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Yeah, yeah, and he's.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
The last place he was at, and I'm like, where
did he go? Well, that our Carney story is really
gonna hold.
Speaker 8 (07:22):
I was waiting for the Imperials to show up and
demand prem Nacta with you know, with the wookies. The
Emperor has dissolved the Senate and reinstituted Primaanacta with all
non humanoid species.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
The trouble, the trouble with Kashik is it's full of wookies.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Uh Okay, that's it. That's what we're gonna have to do.
We're gonna have to recut Star Worths Holiday Special and
shirt all of the dialogue from Brave Heart. I think.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Nice, we need to and we need to take the
Star Wars Holiday Special and put it into the Brave Heart.
Have somebody going stir whip, stir whip whip.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Okay, trivia question, This is actually pretty easy. Who is
the only stop Who is the only actor to have
appeared in every theatrical Star Wars film.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Is it the C three po character?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Anthony Daniels I guess that.
Speaker 8 (08:37):
Now are we counting with the theatrical? Does that count?
Like Solo and Rogue One? Yep, I'm trying and see.
It's funny because I vaguely remember C three p O
in Rogue One. I don't know if I remember him
in Solo.
Speaker 9 (08:49):
Wasn't in the Where was it when they went to that?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
He might not have been in Solo?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
That's that trivia question. Maybe just like your or Solo.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Hey, you know who was in Solo?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Though?
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Mala Mala was in Solo?
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Yes? Really yes?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
When they were yes?
Speaker 7 (09:11):
Was she supposed to be that Wookie that Chewbacca kind
of like he touches heads with before they separate.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Yep?
Speaker 8 (09:17):
Okay man, wow, wow, Well that proves it. The Christmas
Special is canonical Star Wars.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
It is. I had this argument with my son right
before I came up here or night. He's like, this
is crap. This is not Cannon. I'm like, this is cannon.
He's like, no, it's not. I'm like, yes it is.
Speaker 8 (09:33):
So I'll say, this is such an interesting this is
This is like a time capsule if the only thing
that existed in this whole world was just Star Wars
the movie, not even thinking of it as Star Wars
episode for a New Hope, but just Star Wars like.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Like, and everything else didn't exist.
Speaker 8 (09:51):
Like if if you put some dude on a desert
island and just gave him Star Wars and said and
cocaine and said come up with something.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
But it it's just.
Speaker 8 (10:00):
Interesting because it's like all the last forty five years
of everything else that has been written and created doesn't exist.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
It I'll give it that.
Speaker 8 (10:09):
It is an interesting insight into you know, when Star
Wars was kind of raw and not as you know,
hashed out.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
All right, so I found it. Anthony Daniels was in Solo.
He was not C three po oh wow. He played
a corroscanti human male who was a slave working in
the spice minds of Kessel. In Solo, his characters his
character's name was tack Nice.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
So who was he in Rogue one?
Speaker 7 (10:37):
Rogue three Po was in like for like two seconds
in Rogue one, just as everybody's taken off at the
end and they make some comment about like we're the
last to hear about anything.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, is in everything new morning benches.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
All right, well let's talk about this.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
The cartoon cartoon is big because it is the first
appearance of Bob Effect.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
What do you guys about the cartoon, John, what do
you think.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
Other than the animation being a little wonky. I thought
it wasn't bad like it was, you know, for a
kid's cartoon, totally fine as an adult watching it, Like, Wow,
you guys are really trusting of this masked bounty hunter,
like real fast, Like I don't know any anybody keeps
calling me friend too often, and he's carrying this big
(11:22):
gun and you know, wants to be my friend and
seems to have some ulterior motives here. I don't know
that I'm gonna question that a little bit, but I
know Luke going to be as trusting as he wants
to be. But yeah, no, I thought it was fine.
I thought it was fine being the first. I think
this is actually also the first Star Wars animation ever.
I don't think there was ever any other animated I'm
(11:44):
trying to remember. Yeah, yeah, So, I mean after this,
in the natandition, you would have had like droids and
ewoks and you know, some of those other cartoons that
would come out later.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
Other other than the animation being a little weird, I'm
fine with it. And and it's the first time we
get you know, now that we've had the Mandalorian, it's
the first time we get the amb and phase rifle
and all that other stuff. And I mean, even which
is funny.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
You see.
Speaker 7 (12:09):
I know some people have kind of argued, like the
movies that Boba fed is in, you know, before the
special editions, and it was really just Empire strikes Back
and Return of the Jedi. Does he really do that
much that proves that he's such a you know, cool
guy that everybody says he is in the movies. No,
not really, not necessarily. I mean he kind of gets
taken out like a chump in Return of the Jedi,
(12:32):
and other than being able to you know, follow somebody
other than tailing somebody in his car, he really doesn't
do a whole lot in Empire Strikes Back to just
show just how cool he is. In this one, I mean,
he's he's riding a dinosaur.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I started watching it, and as Luke lands on whatever
planet it is he's going to, suddenly there's a dragon
that comes out of the ground, it starts attagging him,
and then whatever it has to escape dives back into
the ground. And I just thought, did they totally get
(13:09):
this for the first episode of season two of Mandalorian?
Speaker 7 (13:12):
Well, because I think I think John Favreau and Dave Filoni,
you know who are are running and directing Mandalorian. I
think they've said several times that there are there's quite
a bit of stuff that was inspired by this cartoon.
It was called The Faithful Wookie, I think is the
title of this cartoon, and I think they've said, yeah,
there's several things, like especially the gun, but some of
the other stuff is directly from the holiday special that
(13:35):
they've tried to put into The Mandalorian.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Skelton, the creat Dragon is in a New Hope.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
Yeah, yeah, and even even Life Day Life Day gets
referenced in the first episode of The Mandalorian.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Oh man, I need to go.
Speaker 7 (13:47):
Unless there was that first guy, that first guy that
the Mandalorian is trying to catch when he first goes
into that one bar, and it's the Blues guy. I
forget what his name is, and he captures him and
he says something about you know, I just I got
to try to be home in time for.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Life Day or something.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
And I think that was the first other that was
the first ever other than the holiday special that ever
gets mentioned. So that's why you know, at the time
Life Day they kind of imply it's just a Wookie
thing in this one, but in the Mandalorian now you've
kind of gotten the idea that it's probably more than
just Wookie. So that's I really would have in hindsight
obviously twenty twenty, but I would have really liked to
(14:25):
have just explored Life Day a little bit more. But
that's getting off from the Boba Fet cartoon. No, I
really I dig the Boba Fet cartoon.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
I like it, and I don't know if you guys
are going to jump into it.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
I'm curious who thought up of who thought of Bob Effet,
Like I'd love to know, like a like.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
Joe Johnston, guy that directed The Rocketeer did Captain America.
He designed Boba Fett and based him off of those
like King of the Rocketmen and some of those old movies.
You know, he loved those old movies and that was
he was the one responsible. He did a lot of
the Like I don't remember if did he do part
of the design for the Millennium Falcon, which I know
would get you excited, Pat, but he I know, he
(15:06):
designed Boba Fette and then and that's why.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
That's why.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
Then ultimately, like when he had the opportunity to direct
the Rocketeer later on, he's like, sign me up this
this is my bag, baby.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
And some of the texts leading up to this this podcast,
somebody had referenced that sexual harassment things.
Speaker 7 (15:29):
You know, I was thinking, like, we refer to that,
we refer to that as R two me too, speaking
of which I did look up a picture. They had
some of the prototypes for the action figures for the
Holiday special, and the only prototypes they made were Chewbacca's family,
And basically all it is is it's the I don't
(15:50):
know if you guys ever had the like the the
classic just the first round like Phase one action figures
that came out after after Star Wars. It's the classic
Chewbacca action figure. And basically the difference is they've just
kind of colored each one a little differently, so it's
it's Chewbacca and then it's like they've shrunk down Chewbacca
(16:10):
for Lumpy and that the coloring is a little bit lighter.
And then they've got another Chewbacca and they've taken off
the bandolier and they've just colored his head white and
the rest of him is brown. And then Mala is
basically Chewbacca colored a very light tan with a little
bit of how shall I say, test articulation, and so
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it's it makes looking at them, and I haven't zoomed
in on the picture, and I really don't want to.
It's a little awkward. It's a little awkward. The other
thing they said, I was reading this article here, and
they said that one of the things that they never
made a prototype of, but they had sketched out was
a toy of Boba the Sea Serpent that Boba fet
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is writing on there. So they had plans to make.
Of course, they made Boba fet prototypes and had the
original ones were colored the way he's colored in this
holiday special, and then they did Chewbacca's family, and then
they were planning to do a sea serpent toy, and
then they got the reviews of the show and Kenner's
just like, nope, pull the plug.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Star Star star Let's talk about the final scene, the
final We waited an hour and twenty minutes for Chewbacca
to show up at home. The Imperials have just trashed
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Lumpy's room. They're looking for rebel stuff. They can't find anything.
Art Carney is trying his best to help out. Han
and Chewy show up. As soon as Chewy shows up,
he's taken under gunpoint to protect Lumpy, and Han wax
the gun out of the Stormtrooper's hand and then the
stormtrooper trips over some firewood falls to his death. And
(17:58):
then Han proceeds to tell Chewbacca's family how much they
mean to him. It's this very touching moment. Then they're
off to hear Princess Leah scene. What do you guys
think about that final scene?
Speaker 8 (18:16):
I I just, I mean, how hard is it to
have a somewhat decent fight like, I mean, they weren't
even asking for a long fight scene. I mean that
could have redeemed some of it if if there would
have been a little bit of a of a fights
you know, I mean there, uh, I know, I know
(18:40):
I'm kind of missing the point, but I mean, you know,
have something where Chewbacca picks up the guy and chucks
him over or I mean, heck, you know what, just
drop in, you know, drop in the scene from the
Death Star when they get into the shootout where you know,
they bring Chewy in and they're they're trying to break
into look out.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
He's loose like that. Just drop that and I would
have enjoyed watching that again, Like, and.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
They're just going to come in and save the day
and wrap it up for the kids, the little kids.
You know, it was like because they can't make it
too violent, is what it seemed like. But then at
the same time you had all those other weird things
going on, So where were the thoughts of the kids,
you know, like, can't show many violence here, but we
can definitely throw in the sexual harassment in the uh
Eleen hornon and all that.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah Socoren, Yeah, yeah right.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
I do want to say what redeems that that fight
scene for me is the fact that the Stormtrooper did
perform the Wilhelm scream as he did fall over the railing.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
So you know, that's something we didn't really talk about.
What do you guys think about the sort of at
the beginning, you have the hologram chess board that they
had in Star Wars where they played Kuess and then
you have all these weird circus performers. It doesn't even
thought that would be a good idea.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
We have to take what should have been a thirty
minute episode and expanded into two hours.
Speaker 9 (20:01):
What can we do?
Speaker 6 (20:03):
Yeah, but nothing seemed connected? That was what it was
so weird. You could literally make you know, just nothing was.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Connected and talking about not connected during the cartoon. Suddenly
in the middle of the cartoon we get a voice
which almost sounds like Captain James T. Kirk saying starlog
and then explain it going on in Boba FET's head.
I'm just like, where did that guy come from? Why
is why are we saying starlog? Who?
Speaker 5 (20:29):
What my last thought on Boba Fet?
Speaker 8 (20:35):
Because I know you said he really didn't have much
of a role in that original trilogy, and that's why
I was wondering who wrote that character, because somehow he
managed to capture our attention, and I mean a fan
favorite kind of like not even cult status, but like
that was a fan favorite aspect of Star Wars to
even before the prequels came out. People were like, man,
(20:56):
that was such a cool character, and really that's how
you kill him off?
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Han bumps him and he flies like that's not right.
Speaker 8 (21:01):
And I just think it's cool that you have a
character like that that was able to capture fandom's feelings
about it something that came out in the cartoon. And
I mean, like, if I had to pick one thing
that I enjoyed in this Bob Effect cartoon, right, Like,
I just think that's cool that, you know, whatever, that
character was able to attain like mystical status with not
(21:23):
a lot of material. And that's where like now with
Mandalorian and everything, we're going cuckoo for Cocoa puffs because like, wow,
we get to see more of this character.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
You're right, we've waited since nineteen eighty or nineteen seventy
eight for Boba Fet to do something, and last week
he finally did. That's forty years. Yeah, that's forty years
of capturing our attention.
Speaker 8 (21:44):
So kind of my earlier point, see where the Boba
Fet character the cartoon came from. I mean, I just like,
I didn't know hardly anything about this until I heard, Hey,
you know, the Surely.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Podcast wants to do and have you guys for the
Star Wars special.
Speaker 8 (22:01):
I'm like, oh, yeah, you guys have talked about the
Star Like I literally knew nothing about this till about
a week ago, right, so somehow I was, you know, Abel,
and then they said, well, it's the origination of origin
of of of Boba Fet. And it's like, well, dang,
that's pretty cool. So I would say the Boba Fet cartoon,
(22:22):
you know. And I know we've kind of had mixed
reviews on Carrie Fisher singing and like I said, I
mean singing as Princess Leah, Okay, that was a little
bit like okay, But I mean, you know, sometimes we've
got movies that come out now where actors or actresses
are trying to sing in the movies. And then the
second thing is then you've got some movies where it's like, no,
(22:44):
they can really sing. They they got to, you know,
then they can, they can bring it.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
It's just they never had a role yet. And and
so I don't know.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
I always like to I always like to see that
extra dimension of certain actors and actresses. And I always
frame it with no one's hiring me to do any
kind of professional singing. No one's hiring me to do
any kind of professional trumpet playing. So I say that
humbly because it's like I don't have any Christmas specials
that I'm singing on. But that was kind of like
a Oh, that's just cool to see her, you know,
in a different light.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Pat.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
The fact that you I know I can say this
to you, and I almost want to apologize that up
until a week ago, you were still pure as the
driven snow, and you haven't seen this yet. I know
that you are also a church going person, So I'm
just gonna put it this way, Pat. In Matthew Chapter eighteen,
it says, whoever causes one of these little ones to sin,
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it would be better for him to have a great
millstone fastened around his neck and be drowned in the
depth of the sea. I feel a little bit of
responsibility for having you watch this now when a week
ago you were just fine.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
Hey, you know what's it's better to know what's out
there before, you know, I grow up and leave the house,
and then, you know, it's better that I experience it
with you, John, where it's a place of safety before
I leave the house and have to face that in
it they you know, in the dangers of the world, we.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Have a safe word in his life.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Day. That's right, Hey, Pat, I got something for you
since this was your favorite part. The voice of Boba
Fett is a guy named Don Franks who hasn't really
done a whole lot of stuff. I mean he did
a whole lot of stuff, but nothing spectacular. But he
was also a jazz musician and really good jazz musician
(24:28):
from what I have read, So maybe something to check out.
Don Franks spelled f R A n c.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
K S Don Franks.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
All right, hey man, thank you, like seriously, when we're
when we're dorun here tonight, I'm.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Gonna uh, I'm gonna check that out. Yeah, right on,
that's cool, thank.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
You, all right, Dennis, anything worthwhile, I would just not
not really much.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
I mean this this but if you've heard our podcast,
I mean this makes if I had a choice between
this and Howard the Duck, I mean I might watch.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Howard the Dog. Whoa, oh wow, whoa.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I couldn't.
Speaker 9 (25:03):
I couldn't sit through this.
Speaker 8 (25:04):
Again, wow because you I mean, when you got angry
and left the podcast, you you rage cast.
Speaker 9 (25:12):
I couldn't sit through this again at this moment.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
If you told me you have to sit through another
movie that's going to be about an hour and a
half long or two hours of either Howard the Duck,
or it's this right now having watched this, watched this
just so so recently, and would have to be Howard
the Duck.
Speaker 8 (25:26):
You stopped out of you like you like left during
Howard the Duck and came back and we're just like
you didn't even sit doun.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
You were just sitting there during our podcast, just like
the Duck.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Like man, I had to do a lot of editing.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
I had to do a lot in that episode because
you dropped a couple of f bombs and then you walked.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
One of the quotes about this show is that is
the not one of, but the worst two hours of
television and television industry. And so I think this is
a great measuring stick. If you picked the movie or
movies that you hated most and had to choose between
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that or this movie, which one would you watch? And
I'm thinking, I'm thinking about Showgirls and I'm thinking about
Jaws three. I think I would pick Holiday Special above
those two Showgirls.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Okay, that's I might watch Jows.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
I might watch Jaws three before Holiday Special, but I
would never ever ever watch show Girls again. If you had,
if you had, Okay, I've got pinking shears. You can
lose a toe or watch Showgirls. I'd have to think
about it for a little.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Show Girls is terrible.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
It's worse.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
I don't know if I had to pick between Kindergarten
Cop two and this.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Oh, there you go, there is Cop two.
Speaker 9 (26:47):
Yes, movies are coming out now.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
You had to pay a whole bunch of money and
late fees for Kindergarten Cop two?
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Right, what, I didn't even know that was a thing.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
The year was twenty eighteen.
Speaker 9 (26:58):
But you didn't get through the roof? What did you
get through the room?
Speaker 8 (27:01):
John?
Speaker 9 (27:02):
Though, that's what we what you were talking about. You
did the pad We kind of did to you with
the room.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yes, I got through the room. Thank you, Dennis.
Speaker 9 (27:08):
Here's where he gets angry.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah, yeah, what the actual hang don't don't do it,
don't and don't tell me.
Speaker 8 (27:20):
Yeah no, don't look into the trap, Ray, don't look
into the trap.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Looked at ego.
Speaker 7 (27:34):
Let's pretend that you and I are Let's pretend that
you and I are tied up to a stake. Don't
look at it, Marion, your eyes shut, don't look at it. No,
I made I made like twenty twenty maybe two minutes
twenty two minutes into that movie. It was a It
was a weekend where my wife was going to be
gone for the weekend, and I went to the library
and I checked out a whole bunch of movies. I
(27:55):
was like, I guess I'm time to watch some movies now,
and yeah, I started that one, got twenty two it's
into it.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
No, no, this is not good.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
I will rarely turn off a movie, and especially I'll
normally give it even longer than that. But I was like, nope,
wasting my time. I'll move on to something else. And
then I thought I returned it to the library until
like a month and a half later when I ended
up having to pay.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Light feet. Stupid movie.
Speaker 8 (28:22):
I really, honestly, I struggle with the movie Pearl Harbor.
That's the one the guys always give me a hard
time with. I struggle with that one on several levels.
And I don't want to take everyone's time and just
go on go on a rant with that one. But
that's one that's I mean, I can't even like cringe
watch it. It's just like, Okay, I'm down, I'm out.
And that's one that i'll that's one that I'll turn
(28:45):
off and if it's someone's favorite show, like, hey, that's fine.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
It just didn't work for me. That's all I'm gonna say.
Like I want to be careful of that that deal.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
But okay, so if you get a pick between Star
Wars Holiday Special and Pearl Harbor, which one.
Speaker 9 (28:57):
Are you going to watch?
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Okay?
Speaker 8 (28:59):
See, you know what, Honestly I picked the Star Wars
one because I could laugh. I picked the Star Wars
one because I could laugh, and and like the Pearl
Harbor one, like I just start to get like kind
of angry. But but yeah, the Star Wars one because
I could laugh. And I mean seriously, like even like
(29:21):
the you know when Itchy Bun or whatever the bookie's
name was that was watching the the thing is.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Just like, oh my gosh, this is really inappropriate.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
You know, like I can kind of I could kind
of find the humor in that whole thing, you know.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
So Okay, Jason, Star Wars Holiday Special or Last Action Hero.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Well, okay, I really dislike Last Action Hero. But the
movie that I hate is The Last Jedi.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Wow, I have a very emotional response to the Last Jedi.
They took something I loved and they turn it against me.
So I will take the Star Wars Holiday Special over
the Last Jedi.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Okay, Wow, I understand that was made at a better quality,
but I still get Luke as Luke. I don't get
Luke as bitter old man.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Is that?
Speaker 8 (30:10):
Is that what you were referencing before, the thing that
you felt kind of turned against you, is how Luke
was bitter old man?
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Yeah? Yeah, I have a real strong reaction to the
last Jedni. So I know you guys have been okay
with it. I'm not okay with it, so got it
now I'm still bad about it.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
So sounds like.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
It's yeah, I was really I was going to say
I didn't even think about the Rise of Skywalker that
I got that right name right this time?
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Right?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Okay? Yeah, So Rise of Skywalker is my hated Star
Wars movie, and I'm sitting here thinking myself would have
watched Holiday Special. Yeah, I'd pick Holiday Special over Rise
of Skywalker as well.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Wow, what is the do?
Speaker 8 (30:51):
What?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
What is Rise of Skywalker?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Like? What movie is it?
Speaker 4 (30:54):
No?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I've never I've never heard of this before.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Good good, Just you block it out.
Speaker 7 (31:03):
Yeah, I don't even know what you I don't even
know what you're talking about. I mean, is it is
it part of the is it one of the anthology ones,
or is it part of the eight canonical movies.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
It's one of the.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Yeah, it's not one of the seven canical movies.
Speaker 7 (31:16):
Okay, okay. I would love to see them do some
kind of holiday special with the Mandalorian, like if they
wanted to bring back some more of this Life Day stuff.
I mean, if they wanted to have and I know
with their seasons, they've only got like ten episodes per season,
so it's not like, you know, you don't want to necessarily,
you know, chunk in whole a whole episode just working
(31:38):
on Life Day stuff. But I don't know with these
different anthology things that they're putting out. I know they
just did a Lego Star Wars holiday special. I haven't
seen that one yet. I'm sure my kids will want
to watch it at some point. I think it just
came out maybe a few weeks ago. Sure, we'll watch that.
But I would love to see the whole idea of
Life Day ex lord in some way in some of
(32:01):
these shows, whether it's I don't know, whether it's in Kenobi,
whether it's in the and or series with whatever it is, Like,
I would like to see this come back because I
think there's some merit to the idea, like the concept
of the whole thing. It's just it's completely wasted on
this because this is you know, and I said it earlier,
it's not a good holiday special, even separate from the
(32:23):
Star Wars. If it was just any kind of holiday special,
it's not a good holiday special. It's not good Star Wars.
So it's really not good anything but the idea of
there being a holiday, and especially if you wanted to
tie that into like the overall mythology of Star Wars,
I mean, tie it into the Force. And that's what
I'm really curious about is that even though in the
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original trilogy everybody seems to have forgotten about the Jedi
and the Force and nobody seems to know anything, you
have a holiday like Life Day. So what is Life
Day celebrating like a is it a religious thing? Is
it a you know, part of this Jedi mysticism? I mean,
how how tied into all of it is the idea
(33:06):
of Life Day. So I mean, I'd be really curious
to see that.
Speaker 9 (33:09):
It could be something with the Wookie history.
Speaker 6 (33:11):
Yeah, and I know, Fabreas joked about doing redoing this
or doing not redoing that exact story, but it would
I would totally.
Speaker 9 (33:17):
Be up for that see him do an updated.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
Sub set somehow holiday special, because it wouldn't look anything
really like that, but like you said, it would take
some of the interesting concepts that were possibly introduced in here.
And I think he would do him justice because he
being a fan. And also I think you would do
a pretty decent job with it.
Speaker 8 (33:35):
Just popped up someone just my sister just sent me
a text. The Mandalorian Special to debut on Disney Plus
on Christmas Day, Get out of Here just popped up.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
It's the well, but it's not like a holiday no no, no, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (33:52):
You know, Disney does the Disney Gallery show that they
do where they do like behind the scenes stuff for
their different some of their different shows. It's that one
they're going to do like a I don't know if
it's like a holiday themed Disney Gallery Mandalorian episode.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (34:04):
Yeah, everything I'm looking at just looks like a regular
I'm just saying it was kind of funny because you're like,
I'd like to see a Mandalorian like Christmas special and
then all of a sudden, my text just came in
from my sister that said Disney plus Mandalorian Special.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
It was like, wow, John, you really are an eleven
This is amazing.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
That an eleventh level right there.
Speaker 7 (34:22):
It's like Doctor Who. It's like Doctor Who. They wait
till the season's over and then at Christmas they always
have a Christmas special. It could be the Mandalorian Christmas Special.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
They know Mandalorian because at the end of last Jedi
was like, they have no idea what they're doing. Disney
is clueless. But I'm back on track.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah, yeah with the movies.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Thank you, John Favreau.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
Yeah yeah, Between John Favreau and Dave Filoni, like they
if they want to, you know, whatever you want to
hand over to Dave to Dave Filoni and John.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Favreau, go ahead, seriously, I'm with you.
Speaker 7 (34:53):
Before we wrapped up, did you see the other stuff
on the Rogue Squadron movie? And how is it Catherine
Bigelow is directing that one. Oh yeah, she's going to
do a Rogue Squadron movie and.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
She does great warf stuff. Right.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
No, no, no, not Catherine Bigelow, that wrong. Director Patty Jenkins.
Wonder Woman director. Okay, oh okay, and she has this
great there was this great video that she put out,
so maybe about a week ago now she has this
great video put out where she's she's like rollerblading down
what looks like a runway and then she gets to
her car and she sits down in like the back
of the car, and she's taken off her roller blades,
(35:31):
and she's talking about how her dad had been a
pilot and that he I think, she says, he lost
his life serving our country and all this. She kind
of goes into the stuff and she's like, I've been
looking for a movie where I feel like I could
do service to how he served our country and what
that meant to him and what that meant to our
family and his sacrifice. And then she says, and I've
(35:52):
finally found the movie that will allow me to do that.
And she reaches behind her and she puts on an
x Wing pilot's helmet, and then she stands up from
the car and she walks down the runway and the
camera turns and she's walking towards an x Wing and
then and then they make the announcement that she's doing
a it will actually be the next theatrical Star Wars movie,
and it's right now, it's just titled Rogue Squadron.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Yeah, it's got a release date at this point of
December of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
That conversation right there is better than the Star Wars Special.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Yeah, fantastic. Yes.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
Yeah, that that like two minute, three minute whatever it
is video that she does. That'll make up for watching
the Star Wars Holiday Special.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Guys, Thank you so much for joining us. We are
so thankful for you, guys, and thank you for being
mentors and being friends, and thanks for taking the time
to join us.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Yeah, everybody, be sure and go check out the thirty
something movie Podcast. We're about to move into nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 7 (36:54):
Any movie you're excited about, well, I've got Pat levels
excite of excitement for our first one coming up in January,
because Pat, when we first started the you guys have
probably heard this story of a bunch of times when
we first started the podcast back in eighty or back
in twenty fifteen, and we were in eighty four eighty five, like, guys,
what movies are you excited for?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
And somebody said back to the Future, and somebody said
something else.
Speaker 7 (37:15):
Pat goes Batman, hold on, that's four years from now, buddy,
But I know I don't care Batman, all right, that's fine.
So then when I started actually paying attention to the
different movies that were coming up, I was like, wait
a minute, ninety one, that's The Rocketeer, all right, cool,
So yeah, that's that's probably the.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
One for me.
Speaker 7 (37:36):
That's our first episode of ninety one is going to
be The Rocketeer, and then from there we've we've got
a whole bunch of Like our first few months, we've
got The Rocketeer, we've got Double Impact, like that was
a fun one to watch. I had never seen Double
Impact before. We've got in the span of like two
or three months, we've done Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Teenage
(37:57):
Mutant Ninja Turtles two, and we even did it was
that back in November we did the Teenage Mutant Ninja
Turtles Coming out of their Shells tour. So it's been
like a it's been like a trifecta of Ninja Turtles
for the last few months for us. But uh, yeah,
we've we've got some we've got some good stuff coming up,
and some good stuff on our Patreon episodes too.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
We're gonna do Clash of the Titans.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Okay, yeah, yeah, that's started for Clash of the Titans though, Mark.
Speaker 7 (38:33):
Okay, so as long as we never do The Last
Jedi as part of our Patreon episodes, we will have
taken Patreon person we didn't offend Okay, all right, show Girls? Yeah, no,
show Girls, No Last Jedi? All right, got that, but no. Yeah,
thank you guys so much for having us on here.
I mean, it's it's always we we love talking movies
(38:54):
and we've loved getting to know you guys and having
you on our show and being on your show, and
you know it, any I mean, I think you just
reached out to us like two days ago, and the
moment you said, I mean, you could have said any
movie at all, but the fact that you said, hey,
we're talking Star Wars Holiday special, and the first thought
that popped into my mind was, good lord, I hate
that thing.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
But yeah, let's talk about it.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
Well, guys, thank you so much. Great to see you guys,
and Merry Christmas to you, and we'll see you on
the other side of twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Yeah, see you next year.
Speaker 5 (39:24):
Yeah, Thank you guys.
Speaker 9 (39:25):
Nice to meet you.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Guys.
Speaker 9 (39:26):
Thank you you guys.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
It's great seeing you guys again.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Guys,
Welcome back everybody that surely you can't be serious podcast.
We are going to pick up right where we left
off the thirty something guys discussing.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
The Star Wars holiday special.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Time for some trivia on that note, Okay, characters will
show up in other movies? Which character from the prequel trilogy?
Prequel Trilogy makes a surprise appearance in Solo. I'm gonna
I'm gonna leave it that I got multiple choice, but
I feel like you're gonna know the answer anyway. John's
(00:41):
got his hand up. Anybody else which one?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Which character from the prequel trilogy? Yes, shows up in Solo?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yes, John has to answer last, given that he's the eleven. Yeah, okay, Pat,
what do you think Darth Maul?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Well, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yep, that's it.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
You got it?
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Okay, all right, you got that one.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
I could have got that one. I didn't think.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Okay, Okay. So we were talking masks earlier. Mala's mask
was repurposed from a Chewbacca mask from the original film,
and the actress that played Mallard was not an actress.
It was a man baby. They couldn't come up they
(01:29):
used to play this or whatever. Yeah, So the actor's
name is Mickey Morton, and he was not only Mala,
he was also Torque. And he was also Chief Gormanda's
second pair of arms.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
And I wonder he was reluctant to give it Art
Carney a kiss.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Already been hugging on the back of Carvey Korman.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Okay, do we want to talk about Mark Hamill in makeup?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
He had some guyliner going on, didn't he?
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Oh my god?
Speaker 6 (02:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Have you seen That's terrible?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
It's really bad. Have you seen the pictures where they
like change the characters from Star Wars into the opposite gender,
where like Luke and Yeah are made to look like
their women. When I saw this, I was like, holy crap,
this is where they got the idea, because he's he's
got some major makeup going on in this one.
Speaker 7 (02:25):
Well, and I felt a little bad. Like one of
the first times I saw that, I was like, what
did they do? Like why did they just they they?
I don't know, He's got at least like seven coats on,
Like the first couple didn't take so they just kept going.
And but then I kind of felt bad about that
because I'm like, then I read up something on it
and They're like, well, it could have been because he
(02:45):
was in that really bad car accident and he needed
to have some additional makeup or yeah, so that maybe
I read something. I don't know how valid that is
or how accurate that is, but one of the things
I read said he was in such heavy makeup because
he had been in that near fatal car crash in.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Oh gosh, it was right. It was not long.
Speaker 7 (03:05):
After or actually right before Star Wars came out in
seventy seven.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, so it was the year before.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
See that's yeah, I don't buy that for one second,
because you don't need eyeliner to cover facial scars, and
he didn't wear all that crap and then fire strikes back.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yep, you guys are right. It's January of seventy seven,
is when into that accident.
Speaker 7 (03:25):
But now just a terrifying amount of makeup, so orange
he looks like franken Furder from Rocky Horror Picture Show?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Can we talk? Are we ready to talk about Kerrie
Fisher singing voice?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
We sure away.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Day? I loved it, Yeah, I loved it. I loved
that she looked like she was as high as a
king too. She's stone out of her gourd.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Listen, this is the last time that Carrie Fisher smiled
in any Star Wars anything. She was sad and Empire
strikes back. She was sad and returned the Jedi. She
was at least happy.
Speaker 7 (04:11):
Yeah, yeah, no, I mean that that scene in particular,
that was probably the the only for me, the only
couple of segments or scenes that made some of it bearable.
Like if I was gonna fast forward and I know,
I don't remember who it was earlier. That might have
been Dentis or I did somebody else was saying to me,
(04:32):
I don't know. The b Arthur scene. If you take
out the weird you know, sexual harassment from the guy
who drinks through his head. If you take that out,
to me, that wasn't even a bad scene. I mean,
if you're gonna do you're gonna do something in the
Star Wars canteena at least that one takes place in
a Star Wars location, and you've got Star Wars characters.
Like some of the other acts, they're not they're completely
(04:53):
devoid of Star Wars. Like you could remove it from
the Star Wars Holiday special, drump dump it in some
other holiday special and it would have been totally fine.
So the b Arthur song like that was actually one
of my I don't want to say favorite, that's really
too strong of a word, but that was that was
one of the most tolerable parts parts of this whole thing.
And then the Princess Leah part too. Like everything else,
(05:14):
I totally tossed that out the window. Those to me,
that in the in the Boat of Het cartoon, which
I'm sure we'll talk about too, but those are really
like the only three parts that I'm even quasi okay
with in this whole thing.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I kind of dig the Jefferson Starship song, and I
thought that was and it kind of looks like he's
trying to impale his head with a lightsaber while he's
singing it.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Yeah, if only they would have sung we built this city.
That would have helped.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
They could have switched up there.
Speaker 7 (05:46):
They probably didn't want to spoil anything, but they could
have done we built cloud City.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Oh, that would have been great.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Man would have been nice. That'd have been nice.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
One of the things that I thought was funny. Okay, So,
mister star Wars gig, John, does it bother you that
they called the wikie planet Kazook the whole time.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
Yeah, well yeah, I mean yeah, I kind of I
kind of knew about that, so I just kind of
was like, all right, all right, it had never been
mentioned before. We'll we'll chalk this up as a well,
I'm just gonna chalk it up as a hand han
Leah Leah.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Kazuk kashik. We'll just do that.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
It's people don't know how to pronounce names in the
Star Wars universe, so I'm totally fine the.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Death of that stormtrooper would not be noticed apparently by anyone.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
It's like, I'm.
Speaker 8 (06:30):
Gonna say, the one thing that helped is when Hans soloked,
the one thing that made me laugh.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Hansol was like, oh wow, what did he say?
Speaker 8 (06:37):
He said something like they're gonna see him down there,
or they're gonna find him eventually or something and or
whatever his comment was. It was just his offhand like
oh yeah, and then he just picks up the gun
and just kind of drops it over. Why was that
so funny to be? I don't know, but he's just like, oh, yeah,
they're gonna find those guys who drops the gun.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Okay, you do get a great Willem scream right before
that storm, yes to his death.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
So I'm just wondering how the investigation is going to
go when they go up there and they find the
guy that was left with them to watch them, and
they see the broken railing.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Yeah, yeah, and he's.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
The last place he was at, and I'm like, where
did he go? Well, that our Carney story is really
gonna hold.
Speaker 8 (07:22):
I was waiting for the Imperials to show up and
demand prem Nacta with you know, with the wookies. The
Emperor has dissolved the Senate and reinstituted Primaanacta with all
non humanoid species.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
The trouble, the trouble with Kashik is it's full of wookies.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Uh Okay, that's it. That's what we're gonna have to do.
We're gonna have to recut Star Worths Holiday Special and
shirt all of the dialogue from Brave Heart. I think.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Nice, we need to and we need to take the
Star Wars Holiday Special and put it into the Brave Heart.
Have somebody going stir whip, stir whip whip.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Okay, trivia question, This is actually pretty easy. Who is
the only stop Who is the only actor to have
appeared in every theatrical Star Wars film.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Is it the C three po character?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Anthony Daniels I guess that.
Speaker 8 (08:37):
Now are we counting with the theatrical? Does that count?
Like Solo and Rogue One? Yep, I'm trying and see.
It's funny because I vaguely remember C three p O
in Rogue One. I don't know if I remember him
in Solo.
Speaker 9 (08:49):
Wasn't in the Where was it when they went to that?
Speaker 2 (08:53):
He might not have been in Solo?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
That's that trivia question. Maybe just like your or Solo.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Hey, you know who was in Solo?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Though?
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Mala Mala was in Solo?
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Yes? Really yes?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
When they were yes?
Speaker 7 (09:11):
Was she supposed to be that Wookie that Chewbacca kind
of like he touches heads with before they separate.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Yep?
Speaker 8 (09:17):
Okay man, wow, wow, Well that proves it. The Christmas
Special is canonical Star Wars.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
It is. I had this argument with my son right
before I came up here or night. He's like, this
is crap. This is not Cannon. I'm like, this is cannon.
He's like, no, it's not. I'm like, yes it is.
Speaker 8 (09:33):
So I'll say, this is such an interesting this is
This is like a time capsule if the only thing
that existed in this whole world was just Star Wars
the movie, not even thinking of it as Star Wars
episode for a New Hope, but just Star Wars like.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Like, and everything else didn't exist.
Speaker 8 (09:51):
Like if if you put some dude on a desert
island and just gave him Star Wars and said and
cocaine and said come up with something.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
But it it's just.
Speaker 8 (10:00):
Interesting because it's like all the last forty five years
of everything else that has been written and created doesn't exist.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
It I'll give it that.
Speaker 8 (10:09):
It is an interesting insight into you know, when Star
Wars was kind of raw and not as you know,
hashed out.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
All right, so I found it. Anthony Daniels was in Solo.
He was not C three po oh wow. He played
a corroscanti human male who was a slave working in
the spice minds of Kessel. In Solo, his characters his
character's name was tack Nice.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
So who was he in Rogue one?
Speaker 7 (10:37):
Rogue three Po was in like for like two seconds
in Rogue one, just as everybody's taken off at the
end and they make some comment about like we're the
last to hear about anything.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, is in everything new morning benches.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
All right, well let's talk about this.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
The cartoon cartoon is big because it is the first
appearance of Bob Effect.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
What do you guys about the cartoon, John, what do
you think.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
Other than the animation being a little wonky. I thought
it wasn't bad like it was, you know, for a
kid's cartoon, totally fine as an adult watching it, Like, Wow,
you guys are really trusting of this masked bounty hunter,
like real fast, Like I don't know any anybody keeps
calling me friend too often, and he's carrying this big
(11:22):
gun and you know, wants to be my friend and
seems to have some ulterior motives here. I don't know
that I'm gonna question that a little bit, but I
know Luke going to be as trusting as he wants
to be. But yeah, no, I thought it was fine.
I thought it was fine being the first. I think
this is actually also the first Star Wars animation ever.
I don't think there was ever any other animated I'm
(11:44):
trying to remember. Yeah, yeah, So, I mean after this,
in the natandition, you would have had like droids and
ewoks and you know, some of those other cartoons that
would come out later.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
Other other than the animation being a little weird, I'm
fine with it. And and it's the first time we
get you know, now that we've had the Mandalorian, it's
the first time we get the amb and phase rifle
and all that other stuff. And I mean, even which
is funny.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
You see.
Speaker 7 (12:09):
I know some people have kind of argued, like the
movies that Boba fed is in, you know, before the
special editions, and it was really just Empire strikes Back
and Return of the Jedi. Does he really do that
much that proves that he's such a you know, cool
guy that everybody says he is in the movies. No,
not really, not necessarily. I mean he kind of gets
taken out like a chump in Return of the Jedi,
(12:32):
and other than being able to you know, follow somebody
other than tailing somebody in his car, he really doesn't
do a whole lot in Empire Strikes Back to just
show just how cool he is. In this one, I mean,
he's he's riding a dinosaur.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I started watching it, and as Luke lands on whatever
planet it is he's going to, suddenly there's a dragon
that comes out of the ground, it starts attagging him,
and then whatever it has to escape dives back into
the ground. And I just thought, did they totally get
(13:09):
this for the first episode of season two of Mandalorian?
Speaker 7 (13:12):
Well, because I think I think John Favreau and Dave Filoni,
you know who are are running and directing Mandalorian. I
think they've said several times that there are there's quite
a bit of stuff that was inspired by this cartoon.
It was called The Faithful Wookie, I think is the
title of this cartoon, and I think they've said, yeah,
there's several things, like especially the gun, but some of
the other stuff is directly from the holiday special that
(13:35):
they've tried to put into The Mandalorian.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Skelton, the creat Dragon is in a New Hope.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
Yeah, yeah, and even even Life Day Life Day gets
referenced in the first episode of The Mandalorian.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Oh man, I need to go.
Speaker 7 (13:47):
Unless there was that first guy, that first guy that
the Mandalorian is trying to catch when he first goes
into that one bar, and it's the Blues guy. I
forget what his name is, and he captures him and
he says something about you know, I just I got
to try to be home in time for.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Life Day or something.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
And I think that was the first other that was
the first ever other than the holiday special that ever
gets mentioned. So that's why you know, at the time
Life Day they kind of imply it's just a Wookie
thing in this one, but in the Mandalorian now you've
kind of gotten the idea that it's probably more than
just Wookie. So that's I really would have in hindsight
obviously twenty twenty, but I would have really liked to
(14:25):
have just explored Life Day a little bit more. But
that's getting off from the Boba Fet cartoon. No, I
really I dig the Boba Fet cartoon.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
I like it, and I don't know if you guys
are going to jump into it.
Speaker 8 (14:36):
I'm curious who thought up of who thought of Bob Effet,
Like I'd love to know, like a like.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
Joe Johnston, guy that directed The Rocketeer did Captain America.
He designed Boba Fett and based him off of those
like King of the Rocketmen and some of those old movies.
You know, he loved those old movies and that was
he was the one responsible. He did a lot of
the Like I don't remember if did he do part
of the design for the Millennium Falcon, which I know
would get you excited, Pat, but he I know, he
(15:06):
designed Boba Fette and then and that's why.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
That's why.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
Then ultimately, like when he had the opportunity to direct
the Rocketeer later on, he's like, sign me up this
this is my bag, baby.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
And some of the texts leading up to this this podcast,
somebody had referenced that sexual harassment things.
Speaker 7 (15:29):
You know, I was thinking, like, we refer to that,
we refer to that as R two me too, speaking
of which I did look up a picture. They had
some of the prototypes for the action figures for the
Holiday special, and the only prototypes they made were Chewbacca's family,
And basically all it is is it's the I don't
(15:50):
know if you guys ever had the like the the
classic just the first round like Phase one action figures
that came out after after Star Wars. It's the classic
Chewbacca action figure. And basically the difference is they've just
kind of colored each one a little differently, so it's
it's Chewbacca and then it's like they've shrunk down Chewbacca
(16:10):
for Lumpy and that the coloring is a little bit lighter.
And then they've got another Chewbacca and they've taken off
the bandolier and they've just colored his head white and
the rest of him is brown. And then Mala is
basically Chewbacca colored a very light tan with a little
bit of how shall I say, test articulation, and so
(16:33):
it's it makes looking at them, and I haven't zoomed
in on the picture, and I really don't want to.
It's a little awkward. It's a little awkward. The other
thing they said, I was reading this article here, and
they said that one of the things that they never
made a prototype of, but they had sketched out was
a toy of Boba the Sea Serpent that Boba fet
(16:53):
is writing on there. So they had plans to make.
Of course, they made Boba fet prototypes and had the
original ones were colored the way he's colored in this
holiday special, and then they did Chewbacca's family, and then
they were planning to do a sea serpent toy, and
then they got the reviews of the show and Kenner's
just like, nope, pull the plug.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Star Star star Let's talk about the final scene, the
final We waited an hour and twenty minutes for Chewbacca
to show up at home. The Imperials have just trashed
(17:34):
Lumpy's room. They're looking for rebel stuff. They can't find anything.
Art Carney is trying his best to help out. Han
and Chewy show up. As soon as Chewy shows up,
he's taken under gunpoint to protect Lumpy, and Han wax
the gun out of the Stormtrooper's hand and then the
stormtrooper trips over some firewood falls to his death. And
(17:58):
then Han proceeds to tell Chewbacca's family how much they
mean to him. It's this very touching moment. Then they're
off to hear Princess Leah scene. What do you guys
think about that final scene?
Speaker 8 (18:16):
I I just, I mean, how hard is it to
have a somewhat decent fight like, I mean, they weren't
even asking for a long fight scene. I mean that
could have redeemed some of it if if there would
have been a little bit of a of a fights
you know, I mean there, uh, I know, I know
(18:40):
I'm kind of missing the point, but I mean, you know,
have something where Chewbacca picks up the guy and chucks
him over or I mean, heck, you know what, just
drop in, you know, drop in the scene from the
Death Star when they get into the shootout where you know,
they bring Chewy in and they're they're trying to break
into look out.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
He's loose like that. Just drop that and I would
have enjoyed watching that again, Like, and.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
They're just going to come in and save the day
and wrap it up for the kids, the little kids.
You know, it was like because they can't make it
too violent, is what it seemed like. But then at
the same time you had all those other weird things
going on, So where were the thoughts of the kids,
you know, like, can't show many violence here, but we
can definitely throw in the sexual harassment in the uh
Eleen hornon and all that.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah Socoren, Yeah, yeah right.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
I do want to say what redeems that that fight
scene for me is the fact that the Stormtrooper did
perform the Wilhelm scream as he did fall over the railing.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
So you know, that's something we didn't really talk about.
What do you guys think about the sort of at
the beginning, you have the hologram chess board that they
had in Star Wars where they played Kuess and then
you have all these weird circus performers. It doesn't even
thought that would be a good idea.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
We have to take what should have been a thirty
minute episode and expanded into two hours.
Speaker 9 (20:01):
What can we do?
Speaker 6 (20:03):
Yeah, but nothing seemed connected? That was what it was
so weird. You could literally make you know, just nothing was.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Connected and talking about not connected during the cartoon. Suddenly
in the middle of the cartoon we get a voice
which almost sounds like Captain James T. Kirk saying starlog
and then explain it going on in Boba FET's head.
I'm just like, where did that guy come from? Why
is why are we saying starlog? Who?
Speaker 5 (20:29):
What my last thought on Boba Fet?
Speaker 8 (20:35):
Because I know you said he really didn't have much
of a role in that original trilogy, and that's why
I was wondering who wrote that character, because somehow he
managed to capture our attention, and I mean a fan
favorite kind of like not even cult status, but like
that was a fan favorite aspect of Star Wars to
even before the prequels came out. People were like, man,
(20:56):
that was such a cool character, and really that's how
you kill him off?
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Han bumps him and he flies like that's not right.
Speaker 8 (21:01):
And I just think it's cool that you have a
character like that that was able to capture fandom's feelings
about it something that came out in the cartoon. And
I mean, like, if I had to pick one thing
that I enjoyed in this Bob Effect cartoon, right, Like,
I just think that's cool that, you know, whatever, that
character was able to attain like mystical status with not
(21:23):
a lot of material. And that's where like now with
Mandalorian and everything, we're going cuckoo for Cocoa puffs because like, wow,
we get to see more of this character.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
You're right, we've waited since nineteen eighty or nineteen seventy
eight for Boba Fet to do something, and last week
he finally did. That's forty years. Yeah, that's forty years
of capturing our attention.
Speaker 8 (21:44):
So kind of my earlier point, see where the Boba
Fet character the cartoon came from. I mean, I just like,
I didn't know hardly anything about this until I heard, Hey,
you know, the Surely.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Podcast wants to do and have you guys for the
Star Wars special.
Speaker 8 (22:01):
I'm like, oh, yeah, you guys have talked about the
Star Like I literally knew nothing about this till about
a week ago, right, so somehow I was, you know, Abel,
and then they said, well, it's the origination of origin
of of of Boba Fet. And it's like, well, dang,
that's pretty cool. So I would say the Boba Fet cartoon,
(22:22):
you know. And I know we've kind of had mixed
reviews on Carrie Fisher singing and like I said, I
mean singing as Princess Leah, Okay, that was a little
bit like okay, But I mean, you know, sometimes we've
got movies that come out now where actors or actresses
are trying to sing in the movies. And then the
second thing is then you've got some movies where it's like, no,
(22:44):
they can really sing. They they got to, you know,
then they can, they can bring it.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
It's just they never had a role yet. And and
so I don't know.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
I always like to I always like to see that
extra dimension of certain actors and actresses. And I always
frame it with no one's hiring me to do any
kind of professional singing. No one's hiring me to do
any kind of professional trumpet playing. So I say that
humbly because it's like I don't have any Christmas specials
that I'm singing on. But that was kind of like
a Oh, that's just cool to see her, you know,
in a different light.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Pat.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
The fact that you I know I can say this
to you, and I almost want to apologize that up
until a week ago, you were still pure as the
driven snow, and you haven't seen this yet. I know
that you are also a church going person, So I'm
just gonna put it this way, Pat. In Matthew Chapter eighteen,
it says, whoever causes one of these little ones to sin,
(23:36):
it would be better for him to have a great
millstone fastened around his neck and be drowned in the
depth of the sea. I feel a little bit of
responsibility for having you watch this now when a week
ago you were just fine.
Speaker 8 (23:48):
Hey, you know what's it's better to know what's out
there before, you know, I grow up and leave the house,
and then, you know, it's better that I experience it
with you, John, where it's a place of safety before
I leave the house and have to face that in
it they you know, in the dangers of the world, we.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Have a safe word in his life.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Day. That's right, Hey, Pat, I got something for you
since this was your favorite part. The voice of Boba
Fett is a guy named Don Franks who hasn't really
done a whole lot of stuff. I mean he did
a whole lot of stuff, but nothing spectacular. But he
was also a jazz musician and really good jazz musician
(24:28):
from what I have read, So maybe something to check out.
Don Franks spelled f R A n c.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
K S Don Franks.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
All right, hey man, thank you, like seriously, when we're
when we're dorun here tonight, I'm.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
Gonna uh, I'm gonna check that out. Yeah, right on,
that's cool, thank.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
You, all right, Dennis, anything worthwhile, I would just not
not really much.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
I mean this this but if you've heard our podcast,
I mean this makes if I had a choice between
this and Howard the Duck, I mean I might watch.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Howard the Dog. Whoa, oh wow, whoa.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I couldn't.
Speaker 9 (25:03):
I couldn't sit through this.
Speaker 8 (25:04):
Again, wow because you I mean, when you got angry
and left the podcast, you you rage cast.
Speaker 9 (25:12):
I couldn't sit through this again at this moment.
Speaker 6 (25:14):
If you told me you have to sit through another
movie that's going to be about an hour and a
half long or two hours of either Howard the Duck,
or it's this right now having watched this, watched this
just so so recently, and would have to be Howard
the Duck.
Speaker 8 (25:26):
You stopped out of you like you like left during
Howard the Duck and came back and we're just like
you didn't even sit doun.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
You were just sitting there during our podcast, just like
the Duck.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Like man, I had to do a lot of editing.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
I had to do a lot in that episode because
you dropped a couple of f bombs and then you walked.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
One of the quotes about this show is that is
the not one of, but the worst two hours of
television and television industry. And so I think this is
a great measuring stick. If you picked the movie or
movies that you hated most and had to choose between
(26:06):
that or this movie, which one would you watch? And
I'm thinking, I'm thinking about Showgirls and I'm thinking about
Jaws three. I think I would pick Holiday Special above
those two Showgirls.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Okay, that's I might watch Jows.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
I might watch Jaws three before Holiday Special, but I
would never ever ever watch show Girls again. If you had,
if you had, Okay, I've got pinking shears. You can
lose a toe or watch Showgirls. I'd have to think
about it for a little.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Show Girls is terrible.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
It's worse.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
I don't know if I had to pick between Kindergarten
Cop two and this.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Oh, there you go, there is Cop two.
Speaker 9 (26:47):
Yes, movies are coming out now.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
You had to pay a whole bunch of money and
late fees for Kindergarten Cop two?
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Right, what, I didn't even know that was a thing.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
The year was twenty eighteen.
Speaker 9 (26:58):
But you didn't get through the roof? What did you
get through the room?
Speaker 8 (27:01):
John?
Speaker 9 (27:02):
Though, that's what we what you were talking about. You
did the pad We kind of did to you with
the room.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yes, I got through the room. Thank you, Dennis.
Speaker 9 (27:08):
Here's where he gets angry.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah, yeah, what the actual hang don't don't do it,
don't and don't tell me.
Speaker 8 (27:20):
Yeah no, don't look into the trap, Ray, don't look
into the trap.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Looked at ego.
Speaker 7 (27:34):
Let's pretend that you and I are Let's pretend that
you and I are tied up to a stake. Don't
look at it, Marion, your eyes shut, don't look at it. No,
I made I made like twenty twenty maybe two minutes
twenty two minutes into that movie. It was a It
was a weekend where my wife was going to be
gone for the weekend, and I went to the library
and I checked out a whole bunch of movies. I
(27:55):
was like, I guess I'm time to watch some movies now,
and yeah, I started that one, got twenty two it's
into it.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
No, no, this is not good.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
I will rarely turn off a movie, and especially I'll
normally give it even longer than that. But I was like, nope,
wasting my time. I'll move on to something else. And
then I thought I returned it to the library until
like a month and a half later when I ended
up having to pay.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Light feet. Stupid movie.
Speaker 8 (28:22):
I really, honestly, I struggle with the movie Pearl Harbor.
That's the one the guys always give me a hard
time with. I struggle with that one on several levels.
And I don't want to take everyone's time and just
go on go on a rant with that one. But
that's one that's I mean, I can't even like cringe
watch it. It's just like, Okay, I'm down, I'm out.
And that's one that i'll that's one that I'll turn
(28:45):
off and if it's someone's favorite show, like, hey, that's fine.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
It just didn't work for me. That's all I'm gonna say.
Like I want to be careful of that that deal.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
But okay, so if you get a pick between Star
Wars Holiday Special and Pearl Harbor, which one.
Speaker 9 (28:57):
Are you going to watch?
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Okay?
Speaker 8 (28:59):
See, you know what, Honestly I picked the Star Wars
one because I could laugh. I picked the Star Wars
one because I could laugh, and and like the Pearl
Harbor one, like I just start to get like kind
of angry. But but yeah, the Star Wars one because
I could laugh. And I mean seriously, like even like
(29:21):
the you know when Itchy Bun or whatever the bookie's
name was that was watching the the thing is.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Just like, oh my gosh, this is really inappropriate.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
You know, like I can kind of I could kind
of find the humor in that whole thing, you know.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
So Okay, Jason, Star Wars Holiday Special or Last Action Hero.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Well, okay, I really dislike Last Action Hero. But the
movie that I hate is The Last Jedi.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Wow, I have a very emotional response to the Last Jedi.
They took something I loved and they turn it against me.
So I will take the Star Wars Holiday Special over
the Last Jedi.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Okay, Wow, I understand that was made at a better quality,
but I still get Luke as Luke. I don't get
Luke as bitter old man.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Is that?
Speaker 8 (30:10):
Is that what you were referencing before, the thing that
you felt kind of turned against you, is how Luke
was bitter old man?
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Yeah? Yeah, I have a real strong reaction to the
last Jedni. So I know you guys have been okay
with it. I'm not okay with it, so got it
now I'm still bad about it.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
So sounds like.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
It's yeah, I was really I was going to say
I didn't even think about the Rise of Skywalker that
I got that right name right this time?
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Right?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Okay? Yeah, So Rise of Skywalker is my hated Star
Wars movie, and I'm sitting here thinking myself would have
watched Holiday Special. Yeah, I'd pick Holiday Special over Rise
of Skywalker as well.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Wow, what is the do?
Speaker 8 (30:51):
What?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
What is Rise of Skywalker?
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Like? What movie is it?
Speaker 4 (30:54):
No?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I've never I've never heard of this before.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Good good, Just you block it out.
Speaker 7 (31:03):
Yeah, I don't even know what you I don't even
know what you're talking about. I mean, is it is
it part of the is it one of the anthology ones,
or is it part of the eight canonical movies.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
It's one of the.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Yeah, it's not one of the seven canical movies.
Speaker 7 (31:16):
Okay, okay. I would love to see them do some
kind of holiday special with the Mandalorian, like if they
wanted to bring back some more of this Life Day stuff.
I mean, if they wanted to have and I know
with their seasons, they've only got like ten episodes per season,
so it's not like, you know, you don't want to necessarily,
you know, chunk in whole a whole episode just working
(31:38):
on Life Day stuff. But I don't know with these
different anthology things that they're putting out. I know they
just did a Lego Star Wars holiday special. I haven't
seen that one yet. I'm sure my kids will want
to watch it at some point. I think it just
came out maybe a few weeks ago. Sure, we'll watch that.
But I would love to see the whole idea of
Life Day ex lord in some way in some of
(32:01):
these shows, whether it's I don't know, whether it's in Kenobi,
whether it's in the and or series with whatever it is, Like,
I would like to see this come back because I
think there's some merit to the idea, like the concept
of the whole thing. It's just it's completely wasted on
this because this is you know, and I said it earlier,
it's not a good holiday special, even separate from the
(32:23):
Star Wars. If it was just any kind of holiday special,
it's not a good holiday special. It's not good Star Wars.
So it's really not good anything but the idea of
there being a holiday, and especially if you wanted to
tie that into like the overall mythology of Star Wars,
I mean, tie it into the Force. And that's what
I'm really curious about is that even though in the
(32:45):
original trilogy everybody seems to have forgotten about the Jedi
and the Force and nobody seems to know anything, you
have a holiday like Life Day. So what is Life
Day celebrating like a is it a religious thing? Is
it a you know, part of this Jedi mysticism? I mean,
how how tied into all of it is the idea
(33:06):
of Life Day. So I mean, I'd be really curious
to see that.
Speaker 9 (33:09):
It could be something with the Wookie history.
Speaker 6 (33:11):
Yeah, and I know, Fabreas joked about doing redoing this
or doing not redoing that exact story, but it would
I would totally.
Speaker 9 (33:17):
Be up for that see him do an updated.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
Sub set somehow holiday special, because it wouldn't look anything
really like that, but like you said, it would take
some of the interesting concepts that were possibly introduced in here.
And I think he would do him justice because he
being a fan. And also I think you would do
a pretty decent job with it.
Speaker 8 (33:35):
Just popped up someone just my sister just sent me
a text. The Mandalorian Special to debut on Disney Plus
on Christmas Day, Get out of Here just popped up.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
It's the well, but it's not like a holiday no no, no, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (33:52):
You know, Disney does the Disney Gallery show that they
do where they do like behind the scenes stuff for
their different some of their different shows. It's that one
they're going to do like a I don't know if
it's like a holiday themed Disney Gallery Mandalorian episode.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (34:04):
Yeah, everything I'm looking at just looks like a regular
I'm just saying it was kind of funny because you're like,
I'd like to see a Mandalorian like Christmas special and
then all of a sudden, my text just came in
from my sister that said Disney plus Mandalorian Special.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
It was like, wow, John, you really are an eleven
This is amazing.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
That an eleventh level right there.
Speaker 7 (34:22):
It's like Doctor Who. It's like Doctor Who. They wait
till the season's over and then at Christmas they always
have a Christmas special. It could be the Mandalorian Christmas Special.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
They know Mandalorian because at the end of last Jedi
was like, they have no idea what they're doing. Disney
is clueless. But I'm back on track.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah, yeah with the movies.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Thank you, John Favreau.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
Yeah yeah, Between John Favreau and Dave Filoni, like they
if they want to, you know, whatever you want to
hand over to Dave to Dave Filoni and John.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
Favreau, go ahead, seriously, I'm with you.
Speaker 7 (34:53):
Before we wrapped up, did you see the other stuff
on the Rogue Squadron movie? And how is it Catherine
Bigelow is directing that one. Oh yeah, she's going to
do a Rogue Squadron movie and.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
She does great warf stuff. Right.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
No, no, no, not Catherine Bigelow, that wrong. Director Patty Jenkins.
Wonder Woman director. Okay, oh okay, and she has this
great there was this great video that she put out,
so maybe about a week ago now she has this
great video put out where she's she's like rollerblading down
what looks like a runway and then she gets to
her car and she sits down in like the back
of the car, and she's taken off her roller blades,
(35:31):
and she's talking about how her dad had been a
pilot and that he I think, she says, he lost
his life serving our country and all this. She kind
of goes into the stuff and she's like, I've been
looking for a movie where I feel like I could
do service to how he served our country and what
that meant to him and what that meant to our
family and his sacrifice. And then she says, and I've
(35:52):
finally found the movie that will allow me to do that.
And she reaches behind her and she puts on an
x Wing pilot's helmet, and then she stands up from
the car and she walks down the runway and the
camera turns and she's walking towards an x Wing and
then and then they make the announcement that she's doing
a it will actually be the next theatrical Star Wars movie,
and it's right now, it's just titled Rogue Squadron.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Yeah, it's got a release date at this point of
December of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
That conversation right there is better than the Star Wars Special.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Yeah, fantastic. Yes.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
Yeah, that that like two minute, three minute whatever it
is video that she does. That'll make up for watching
the Star Wars Holiday Special.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Guys, Thank you so much for joining us. We are
so thankful for you, guys, and thank you for being
mentors and being friends, and thanks for taking the time
to join us.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Yeah, everybody, be sure and go check out the thirty
something movie Podcast. We're about to move into nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 7 (36:54):
Any movie you're excited about, well, I've got Pat levels
excite of excitement for our first one coming up in January,
because Pat, when we first started the you guys have
probably heard this story of a bunch of times when
we first started the podcast back in eighty or back
in twenty fifteen, and we were in eighty four eighty five, like, guys,
what movies are you excited for?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
And somebody said back to the Future, and somebody said
something else.
Speaker 7 (37:15):
Pat goes Batman, hold on, that's four years from now, buddy,
But I know I don't care Batman, all right, that's fine.
So then when I started actually paying attention to the
different movies that were coming up, I was like, wait
a minute, ninety one, that's The Rocketeer, all right, cool,
So yeah, that's that's probably the.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
One for me.
Speaker 7 (37:36):
That's our first episode of ninety one is going to
be The Rocketeer, and then from there we've we've got
a whole bunch of Like our first few months, we've
got The Rocketeer, we've got Double Impact, like that was
a fun one to watch. I had never seen Double
Impact before. We've got in the span of like two
or three months, we've done Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Teenage
(37:57):
Mutant Ninja Turtles two, and we even did it was
that back in November we did the Teenage Mutant Ninja
Turtles Coming out of their Shells tour. So it's been
like a it's been like a trifecta of Ninja Turtles
for the last few months for us. But uh, yeah,
we've we've got some we've got some good stuff coming up,
and some good stuff on our Patreon episodes too.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
We're gonna do Clash of the Titans.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Okay, yeah, yeah, that's started for Clash of the Titans though, Mark.
Speaker 7 (38:33):
Okay, so as long as we never do The Last
Jedi as part of our Patreon episodes, we will have
taken Patreon person we didn't offend Okay, all right, show Girls? Yeah, no,
show Girls, No Last Jedi? All right, got that, but no. Yeah,
thank you guys so much for having us on here.
I mean, it's it's always we we love talking movies
(38:54):
and we've loved getting to know you guys and having
you on our show and being on your show, and
you know it, any I mean, I think you just
reached out to us like two days ago, and the
moment you said, I mean, you could have said any
movie at all, but the fact that you said, hey,
we're talking Star Wars Holiday special, and the first thought
that popped into my mind was, good lord, I hate
that thing.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
But yeah, let's talk about it.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
Well, guys, thank you so much. Great to see you guys,
and Merry Christmas to you, and we'll see you on
the other side of twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Yeah, see you next year.
Speaker 5 (39:24):
Yeah, Thank you guys.
Speaker 9 (39:25):
Nice to meet you.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Guys.
Speaker 9 (39:26):
Thank you you guys.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
It's great seeing you guys again.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Guys,
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