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Can your family handle an unexpected emergency like a power outage or natural disaster? Join us this National Preparedness Month as we kick off Survival Beyond the Bug Out Bag 2.0 with the theme "Start a Conversation." In this episode, we explore the critical importance of discussing emergency preparedness within families, ensuring that even the youngest members know what to do when the unexpected happens. We shed light on Oregon's leadership in the prepping community while acknowledging that many still find themselves unprepared. Our goal this season is to reset and provide valuable insights for both newcomers and our loyal audience by comparing past and present strategies to keep everyone ready for anything.

Discover the essential preparations you need to handle emergencies, from having a get-home bag in your car to building a modular and complementary preparedness system. Learn from personal experiences and understand the importance of community networks and multiple contingency plans, including a last-resort "Alamo" plan. We also introduce you to a premier firearms training center in Southern Oregon, where you can access a range of self-defense programs and customized training solutions. Stay tuned for a teaser on the upcoming Bug Out Bag 2.0 event and don't forget to share your comments and suggestions. Stay safe, stay strong, and let's get prepared together!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, great, googly-moogly, it's September
1st already and that means it'sNational Preparedness Month and
hey, we're all over that here.
Come on inside, let's talkabout this.
Well, hi everybody, I'm BillBateman, part of the team here

(00:25):
at Refuse to be a Victim,personal Protection Training and
this is Survival Beyond theBugout Bag.
It's hard to believe, but thisis our seventh season and my
actually the eighth year ofdoing this program and,
interestingly enough, nationalPreparedness Month, which is a
national thing this is going onall over the United States.

(00:49):
The theme this year is Start aConversation.
It's not easy to talk aboutdisasters or emergencies.
Sometimes you think you'regoing to avoid talking about it
so you don't scare the kids.
Well, not such a good idea.
Basically, I have been thinkingabout how to make this program

(01:10):
more beneficial, more useful,and I came across it in my last
episode.
We have about 27% of peoplehere in Oregon who are involved
in prepping, and that's reallygood.
We're leading some other areas,and that's really good.
We're leading some other areasand, of course, oregonians got
it going on, but so do peopleall across the United States,

(01:33):
and I'm finding out more andmore.
We have listeners in othercountries, and that's good.
I am pleased to see everybodyis getting learned up, but I
think that means if we got like27% of you on board, that's over
70% who haven't joined the teamyet, and I'm finding I've been

(01:54):
gearing a lot of the stuff thatI do towards senior citizens.
Now that's not a bad thing,because if you can prep for
yourself as a senior which, bythe way, is the largest group in
Oregon of preppers Stop andthink about that.
Yeah, stop and think about that.
Grandma and grandpa are goingto be ready and you're going to

(02:14):
have to go to their house andyou know what a weekend there
can be like.
Oh, so I'd like to hear we'regoing to call this Survival
Beyond the Bug Out Bag 2.0.
I'm going to kind of go back tothe.
I'm going to reset and we'regoing to go back to the
beginning, and there'll still becontent for the regular folks.

(02:36):
I'm going to be comparing whatit was then to what it is now.
If you were coming to my OLLIclass as a brand new person it
doesn't matter what age you areyou would be hearing this kind
of information.
Now, I do want to remind youthat, beginning October 15th
2018, we began this program andevery one of those programs is

(03:00):
available on this website.
You can scroll down the list ofbroadcasts and you'll see the
initial programs.
There's also a transcript.
Now, hmm, what could you dowith that?
You could perhaps follow alongand compare what we did then to
what we're doing now.
If you're a regular listener,I'd like you to go out and your

(03:21):
homework assignment is get twomore people to listen to this
program.
Bring it up at church, bring itup at club, bring it up at
bingo, bring it up with yourguys on your team at the grocery
store when you're online,watching the person up front
compare their vacation photoswith the cashier's Always a
pleasure.
Survival Beyond the Bug Out.

(03:42):
Bag 2.0 is going to be gearedfor new listeners, with value
for you, the regular listener,and this doesn't matter if
you're here in Oregon, down inCali, over in Ohio and Illinois,
or maybe across the pond inEngland, the Czech Republic or
Germany.

(04:02):
We've got some good listenersthere too.
So, thank you, thank you forthat.
Let's get into it.
Basically, for the new listener,what are you waiting for?
The theme starting aconversation.
That's your first step.
Acknowledge the problems canhappen.

(04:25):
If we look at what's been goingon this year, I mean, just in
my neighborhood we had awindstorm serious enough to drop
trees, we had heavy rains, wehad power outages, we've had
high intense heat, we've hadelectrical outages because of
the heat and because of thewindstorm.

(04:46):
We even had a squirrel-causedelectrical outage that took out
things from Medford to Ashland,which is almost to the
California border.
So this happens all the time.
These are not just the major,serious disasters like a tornado
or a flood or an earthquake,emergencies affecting thousands

(05:11):
to hundreds of thousands ofpeople, especially with related
items like weather causing poweroutages or flooding.
Look at back east.
Oh, my gosh, hundreds ofthousands of people are without
the basics and we're going to betalking about what that really

(05:31):
means.
Oh, the power's out.
That's terrible.
I'll light a candle.
Well, there's a lot more to itand I know you know what that
means.
So if you're going to start aconversation, that's step one.
Set a time when everybody'scalm and relaxed.
Don't make this a scary thing.
It can help to hold thesediscussions over a number of

(05:54):
time periods.
You don't have to sit down anddo it in one afternoon.
People are going to get morecomfortable the longer you work
on this and you do want toinclude the entire family, talk
about steps you may have takenor things you've heard here on
this site, and encourage otherpeople to ask questions about
preparedness and things thatmight work for them.

(06:17):
There are no bad ideas,seriously.
So it's very important,especially for younger families.
If you have kids uh,considering the age, of course,
toddlers aren't going to get awhole lot out of this, but
you've got eight, nine, ten yearolds, fourth, fifth, sixth
graders, uh, even, uh, down intothe third grade.

(06:39):
They are pretty sharp littleragamuffins and they are
definitely going to be listening, even if they're not
participating.
So include the young ones.
They're going to be able tohelp, they're going to have good
ideas and you're going to havethings to share with them, which
is going to help keep them safe.
Sometimes young kids will getvery frightened, as they would

(07:03):
and how they're going to act orreact you can help start dealing
with now, like a fire drill.
We have fire drills here at ourhouse occasionally.
I'm well past the age where Iwant to get up at four in the
morning and bang pots and runaround and get everybody up, and
it's likely I'd end up sleepingin the garage.

(07:24):
But we do have a plan here.
So make plans, share the plans,and everybody is a part of that
.
Everybody has a task to prepare.
Everybody has a place to be.
So if you're a new person, thequestion always is well, bill,
what is a bug-out bag Basically?

(07:47):
This started out and if you'veever been a fan of NCIS, dinozzo
has his bug-out bag when theyhave to go to an emergency
location.
It's just stuff to get youthrough for 24 to 48 hours.
That's one type of bug-out bag.
In the military, it's a wholedifferent thing.
It's supplies necessary for aspecific mission, and I know

(08:11):
many homeless children, youngpeople, who often are having
trust issues or having problems.
They keep a bug out bag, so ifthey have to bolt from the
foster home, they've got thestuff they need.
Contents of each are going tobe different.
Situations for each are goingto be different.

(08:33):
For our purposes, a bug out bagis a collection of items you as
a family have put together thatyou're going to take with you if
you have to leave your home inan emergency.
That is what a bug out bagbegan as back in 2018.
Interestingly enough, youregulars are going to go.

(08:56):
It certainly has changed,hasn't it?
Yes, it has.
The big thing is.
Initially it said you needed tohave enough supplies for 72
hours.
Now it's recommended you haveenough gathered for 30 days.
And we're talking aboutsupplies.

(09:17):
I mean, that's not just granolabars and batteries.
This is things you're going totake with you.
If I have to walk out my frontdoor in the next 30 seconds,
what can I grab that's going tohelp me be safe, healthy and
prepared outside that door?
This is usually a fire,sometimes a flood.

(09:40):
This could be a situation whereyou have to leave to move to a
safer area because of civilunrest.
If you're going to go, includethings in this bug out bag like
medicine.
I take certain medicines everyday.
I feel much better if I takethem.
I can live without them, butit's much better to have your

(10:02):
medications.
There are some people who musthave their medications.
So in your bug-out bag you'regoing to want to have some
medicine Information.
I have a thumb drive.
It's got copies of all mydocuments.
Who's my insurance agent?
How do I reach so-and-so?
What do I do if this happens?

(10:25):
If I come back and the house isin ashes, who do I call?
What are the values on mypolicies?
This is a thumb drive.
This fits on the end of akeychain and this is going to
save you hours of problems.
A bug-out bag for me hassomething to keep warm in it.
Savor.
It is the Don't Die in theWoods thermal blanket.

(10:46):
It's so much better and we'llbe talking about that.
If you haven't heard of it,it's well worth googling.
It's bigger.
I'm a large person.
I can wrap up in this thing andstay toasty, warm out in a
snowstorm.
It's amazing.
So the bug out bag is what youhave when you're going to go

(11:07):
from your house to someplaceelse.
Hopefully you've got a plan.
As I mentioned, this hascontinued to develop over the
years.
It's also been determined youshould have in your car a
get-home bag.
That means if you're at work oryou're stranded on the road,

(11:30):
what do you have in the car thatwill help you survive?
Now, interestingly enough,we're not big.
Go out and interstate and campand that kind of stuff.
It's just not that much funanymore, but I know a lot of
young people do.
I know we just had friends andfamily come by this weekend.
They hopped in the car.
They went from Portland toSacramento and didn't even think

(11:53):
of that any more than it wouldbe going down to the store for a
candy bar.
So what do you have when you'reon the road, and do you have
enough for you?
Do you have enough for everyonein the car?
And what if there's an accident?
Are you that person who canstop and render aid?
Things to consider for futurebroadcasts.

(12:15):
Getting out of the home, gettingfrom work to home I happened
when I was working.
I worked at SOU.
That, from my present home, is14 miles.
So if I had to get home in anemergency the last fire we had
in this area the highways wereimpassable.
I was at that time riding amountain bike.

(12:37):
Don't visualize that, you'llhurt your retinas.
A 14-mile ride on a mountainbike, no problem.
But what could I carry?
What could I carry with me?
What if things got out?
It's a what-if game.
So I had supplies at work.
That's the third thing.
So you have a bag to get out, abag to get home from work.

(12:57):
And if you can't get to yourcar now, I was in an office not
everybody works in an office inyour truck, in your van, in your
work area.
Do you have some supplies there?
And supplies of those types arebasic first aid, basic food,
basic water and filtration forair, because air, food and water

(13:23):
are three things you cannot dowithout breathing.
About three minutes is the max.
I've gone over two and I didn'tcare for it.
Much water three days and foodgenerally three weeks In these
fire situations.
Or I was in Santa Barbara oncewhen they had a leak.

(13:45):
A tanker truck crashed on thefreeway and downtown Santa
Barbara was a goat town.
Everybody had to get out ofthere because of some gas that
leaked out from the tanker truckand, believe it or not, way
back then and this is in the 80sI had face masks.

(14:06):
I could successfully leave myoffice and get to where I needed
to be because I had a face mask.
Now this will, as we go, folksare going to start hearing.
There's level one preparation.
There's just the emergencies,just what you can carry, and
there's what you can build up.
In my office I had supplies Inmy car.

(14:30):
I had a backpack.
So if I had to leave the car,if the car became disabled, what
do I have?
So not only did I have thebackpack in the car, but I had
supplies that I could carry withme, like a shovel or a small
tent, things like that.
This I carry with me all thetime.

(14:53):
Now you're starting to see apattern.
This is modular.
It developed into a system asfolks started thinking, wait, I
need a get-home bag, I need awork bag, I need a bug-out bag
and a stay-at-home kit, becausereally, if you have an
opportunity, staying at home isyour best idea.

(15:14):
In an emergency Bunker, inhunker down, you know where
everything is, you know whatyou've got, you keep up with it
regularly, or you should, andyou also have friends and family
, neighbors, community in thearea.
If you want to and I stronglyencourage this build a home

(15:35):
system, encourage this.
Build a home system, build ateam.
You have this Neighbor Bob hasthis Neighbor Jose, rather, has
that.
You can all look at each otherand agree in advance.
Now I will tell you in timeswhen the excrement hits the air

(15:56):
conditioning, a lot of theseplans go right up in smoke.
You should have at least threeplans because, as we know, plans
don't always hold together.
We saw that in the fire andI've spoken of that.
If you're a new listener, theshort version is you got plan A.
That doesn't work.
You got plan B and I have planC because I'm type A.
And finally there's what wecall the Alamo.

(16:19):
When everything goes completelysouth, it's all come and undone
.
Where are you going to go Ifyou have never considered that
that's your first?
This is part of sparking aconversation.
In our geographical area,there's only two ways to go
north and south and there's tworoads and they run parallel.
So if those roads are closed,you better have an Alamo in the

(16:45):
local area.
We had an Alamo when we hadthat big fire.
We had plan A, plan B, a plan Cif things got really goofy, and
then we had the Alamo.
When we ended up needing ourAlamo situation, it was on fire
too.
We couldn't go there, so we hadto then use our plan we had

(17:09):
developed and alter it on thefly, and we were ready for that.
And that's the differencebetween looking like the three
stooges when Shemp needs cheese.
If you don't know what thatmeans, look it up, google it.
It's kind of funny.
Having preparation, having theconversation, having the
information, is what you'regoing to have to do if you're

(17:32):
going to get through thingssafely.
Having supplies set up, havingdifferent things in different
bags that will join with theother bag.
Don't have bug out bags in thecar, at work, at home.
All the same, make these sothey are complementary.
And what I mean is you've got awater filter in their car and

(17:55):
then at home you've got a largerwater filter unit that will
hold more and then you havewater bottles you can fill if
you have to leave from theselarge water filters you have In
the car.
You're going to have somerations At home in your bug-out
bag.
You'll have some rations athome in your bug out bag.
You'll have some rations,emergency food, and those then

(18:20):
combine to make extra food.
The idea is each bag iscombined with the other and
those contents complement what'sin it.
It improves.
You've got one pocket knife athome.
You've got one pocket knife inyour bag.
Now this brings us to aninteresting topic.

(18:40):
One is none and two is one.
Say that again for you One isnone and two is one.
That means if you've ever divedinto your handbag, ladies or
gents, you're digging in yourpocket or under the seat of the
front car.
You know you had that pocketknife there.
You know you had that firestarter and by golly it got out

(19:05):
of place.
It fell, it went under the seat, it went down into a cushion.
That's life.
That's like reaching for a penand having five pens when you
leave the house and you get tothe meeting.
You've got none of them.
This is okay if you don't havean extra pen at the meeting, but
if you need a fire starter orGod forbid you need a tourniquet

(19:27):
.
You've got to have a couple ofthese things in different places
.
I have them in my home.
I have them in my car.
When I was at work, I had themin my home.
I have them in my car.
When I was at work, I had themin my workplace.
I knew where they were.
I knew they were high quality.
That's the third reallyimportant thing.
You're going to get your plan.
You're going to have aconversation.

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You're going to realize theplan is going to change as
circumstances change and you'reprepared for that.
You're going to include theentire family, absolutely
Including the kids, includinggrandma and grandpa.
What are you going to do if?
What happens if you can't dothat?
We have neighbors here.
We actually had a beautifuldemonstration of everything

(20:11):
working correctly.
The trees blew down.
As I mentioned, we had a heavyrainstorm, hail, wind, boo it
was pretty scary.
Dogs still under the bed.
We came together like a hive ofbees.
We have known each other here agood long time.
Many of the people have beenhere for 10, 15 years, so we
know who can do what.
That's a key part In yourfamily discussions probably not

(20:35):
the first meeting, but who'scomfortable doing what?
That's a key part in yourfamily discussions?
Probably not the first meeting,but who's comfortable doing
what?
Now?
My wife is a nurse.
She is just nurse strong.
She's got the big cape, theboots, the belt, the whole thing
, super nurse.
And I've taken a lot of classesstop the bleed, taking first

(20:57):
aid, cpr, aed, trauma medicine,things like that.
Some people faint at the sightof blood and we're not going to
give them any grief.
If you know you can't do thosetype of things, there's other
things you can do.
Train to that.
Don't let people oh, I it allqueasy, hey, stop it.

(21:18):
This person's here.
They're here to help and maybethey can't wrap a wound or help
with applying a tourniquet, butthey can clear the area to make
sure it's safe.
They can get 911.
They can gather supplies.
They can go get additional help.
There's lots of things all ofus can do.

(21:39):
Bug-out bags started as a singleitem.
They are now a modular system.
Bug-out bag A when added withbug-out bag B, home and car are
now double in value because theyhave extra things.
We have extra things becausethings, especially in an

(22:01):
emergency, get misplaced.
We're looking at basics, tostart, and understanding that
being surviving, that being asurvivor, is not always
comfortable.
I mean, I took survivaltraining and you know you're
eating bugs and sitting in arainstorm.
That is surviving but that'snot really comfortable.

(22:23):
So what can you get?
What can you take to becomfortable?
And it is going to vary by yourgeography.
If you're in Europe, it's goingto be different than if you're
in Oregon, than if you're in theChicago area, than if you're
down south in Nolens.
The geographical area you'reliving in is going to help

(22:46):
dictate what you have.
If it's very, very hot versusvery, very cold.
The weather is going to be morechangeable.
Get used to it, it's going tobe a factor.
What happens in an extremeweather event?
Do you have floods in your area?
Have you had floods in yourarea?

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Knowing the area, the geographyyou're living in, if you're in
a city, it's going to be totallydifferent than being in a rural
or a country environment.
All these city folks and I'vesaid this a hundred times and
I'll just keep saying it folksseem to decide that, boy, this
gets scary here in the city.
We're going to run out to thecountry, set up our Coleman

(23:29):
stove, shoot a deer and we'll bejust fine.
Well, I got bad news for you.
Everybody in the city has thatplan.
So home base is the best placeto be.
We'll talk in the weeks to comeabout what to put where At my
home I have backup solarbatteries.
I decided not to go withgasoline because of the storage

(23:51):
concerns of storing gas, but away to generate electricity and
stop and think.
I'm going to leave you with onefinal point.
When just the power goes out,what does that mean?
Okay, that's heating andcooling, lighting, refrigeration
and any medical things you have, like a CPAP or keeping your

(24:14):
insulin cool in the refrigerator, that type of thing.
So just one interruption canreally be an issue.
But if you have a majorinterruption cell towers down,
electricity down, heating down,if you have gas, if there's an
interruption with the gas lineswhat does this mean and what are

(24:37):
you prepared to do?
That's what we're going to talkabout.
So welcome to the conversationif you're a new person, if
you've been coming back weekly,thank you.
We will continue to look atideas to maybe make your
preparations and the thingsyou're doing a little better
preparations and the thingsyou're doing a little better.
And going through these newthings, these new ideas, is

(24:58):
going to have a lot of ways tohelp you fine tune.
So if you're a newbie, welcome.
If you're a regular, welcomeback.
And everything we're going todo here is to keep you and your
family safe.
Reminder everything going outat the range is just as it's
been.
We've gone away from a specifictime for a specific class.

(25:21):
The only exception is ourconcealed carry.
That's still on Saturday,second Saturday of the month,
and that's held at the MedfordRifle Pistol Club and you can
register online.
The other classes, if you haveinterest, are available.
You can schedule them out anddo this with your church group.

(25:42):
We're getting a lot of that.
Houses of Worship are bringingin some parishioners and they're
getting prepared.
We have everything from basicpre-gun ownership classes.
Basic pistol shows you how toselect a pistol, how to select a
handgun, how to hold them, howto shoot them.

(26:03):
The basic always, always,always ideas, and we go all the
way through concealed carry,shotgun and through tactical for
the more advanced shooters.
So if you've got an interest,go to the website.
The link's there where we login and give Phil a call.

(26:24):
Phil CJ and I are alwaysstanding by to help you.
Come on out to the range if youhaven't been.
We're at 6800 Kershaw here inthe Medford-White City area.
It's a little tricky to getthere now because Foothill
Boulevard, if you're followingyour GPS, is closed, so you're
going to have to.
You can call us, we'll give youdirections, but it's a good

(26:45):
place to spend a Saturday.
It's a little hot, but that'scooling down.
We'd like to see you, we'd liketo invite you.
Even non-ballistic self-defenseis something we offer for folks
and, like I mentioned, we havecustomized programs for
customized situations.
So if you'd like moreinformation, we are the premier

(27:07):
training center here in SouthernOregon.
We've been here a long, longtime.
The skill sets you would notbelieve, the skill sets we've
got to share with you.
So give us a call or pop intothe website see what's going on.
We look forward to seeing youreal soon.
Bug Out Bag 2.0 is underway.

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We'll be back next week and, asalways, your comments and
suggestions are welcome.
Be safe, stay strong.
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