September 8, 2024 • 28 mins
Is your go bag ready for anything? Join us this week as we dive into the world of emergency preparedness with Bill Bateman from Refuse to be a Victim Personal Protection Training. We highlight the vital need for a well-equipped "get-out-of-Dodge bag," and why it's more crucial than ever to be prepared for sudden evacuations and extreme weather. Bill shares how lifestyle changes and environmental hazards like forever chemicals and microplastics have changed the landscape of preparedness, and the significance of customizing your go bag based on your age, health, and physical abilities. Additionally, you'll learn why knowing your capabilities and local emergency plans can make all the difference in a crisis.
Bill provides invaluable tips on crafting an effective go bag that ensures you and your loved ones are self-sufficient for up to two weeks. From updated water filters and air filtration systems to reliable lighting solutions and multiple fire-starting methods, discover how to stay warm, visible, and safe in various emergency scenarios. We also discuss the concept of blending in as a "gray man" to avoid drawing attention during crises. Whether you're facing sudden evacuations or getting stranded in snow, this episode equips you with the knowledge and tools to be fully prepared for whatever comes your way. Don't miss out on this essential guide to emergency preparedness!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Last week we took a look at how things were eight or
nine years ago.
Now we're doing survival beyondthe bug-out bag 2.0.
This week, the get-out-a-dodgebag or the original go-bag.
Come on in, let's talk aboutthis.
Well, hi everybody, I'm BillBateman, part of the team here
(00:28):
at Refuse to be a VictimPersonal Protection Training.
We are located in theMedford-White City area of
Southern Oregon and you'realways invited to come on by and
visit us.
We are at 6800 KershawBoulevard.
Now I do want to tell tell youFoothill is undergoing some
construction, so you may want togive us a call as to how to get
(00:51):
there.
We aren't going to send upsmoke signals there's just too
much of that going on but we'llhelp you get here either way.
Okay, last time we took anoverview.
I explained that we wanted toupdate and welcome new listeners
.
We're still going to try andhave information that's of value
(01:12):
for our regular listeners andreach the other 70% of people
here in Oregon who have not yetbegun prepping, getting ready
for those knocks at the door inthe middle of the night or those
emergency phone calls.
And, as we've stressed the lasttime, this is not just the
major brush fire or the bigearthquake Just last week we had
(01:35):
in our area some alerts on thephone brush fire, freeway closed
and evacuation notices listed,so this stuff can pop up really
quick.
It wasn't a major oh my goshfire, but several folks did have
to actually leave their homes.
So let's look at the go bag inspecific.
(01:56):
Last time we talked about thegeneralization of the go bag,
the get home bag, the bag foryour car, the bag for your
office, and how those thingshave all developed into new
systems, ideally that you mergetogether.
There's also a bag, the I'mnever coming home bag, that's if
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you think you're going to haveto get out and really make some
changes.
So all of these things havehappened because of the changes
in our lifestyle, the changes inour weather, the changes in a
whole number of things.
Being prepared is now really alife-saving skill.
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It used to be able to.
You know you could probably getby.
Now not so much.
You should have your ownmedical, you should have your
own air filtration, you shouldhave your own water and you
should have your own food, aswell as defensive and medical
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type capabilities.
So let's look at specificallythe go bag.
The go bag is what happens whenyou get that knock at the door
or your alert goes off and theysay folks, you've got about five
minutes to get out of Dodge.
If you don't know what to do, atthat point, ladies and
gentlemen, I cannot do a wholelot for you, because that's why
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I'm here to remind you.
Let's start planning today.
Stop listening, get the familytogether, start talking about
this.
Now, what's changed?
A lot.
I focused a lot on seniorcitizens.
I am a senior myself.
Just had my diamond birthday,if you folks know what that is.
That's pretty scary.
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I never expected to get here,but okay, it's not too bad.
I'm going to be talking aboutall levels of prepping, because
for younger people, especiallywith young families, prepping is
a whole different thing.
It's different for all of usand we're going to be talking
about the things that make itdifferent Age, health, physical
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ability.
If you're a young person, thatlong wasn't all that long ago I
could throw on a 50 poundbackpack and run all over the
forest.
Now not so much.
If you're a young parent, areyou prepared to do that?
Don't think you can do it.
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Know you can do it, know whatyou're capable of doing.
This is life-threatening orlife-saving, depending upon how
you want to look at it.
You're in a serious situation.
I think I can only counts ifyou're a cartoon train.
Know what you can do.
The Go Bag is designed to getyou out of your home in an
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emergency situation and give youthat which you need to subsist
until you can get additionalshelter.
You can get to a safe area.
You may have to be out on yourown.
You may have to go to a groupshelter.
You may have to check into amotel five cities away.
I have been in all thosesituations.
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Know what's available in yourarea.
Check with your city and yourcounty and look at their
emergency plans.
That way you know where you'regoing.
So key step for a go bag, keystep for prepping plan what's
going to happen.
Not the emergency, because youhave no idea what's going to
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happen, but plan which way youcan go, know which way is going
to jam up.
Know which way is not practical.
Getting on the freeway in thisarea the last fire was a parking
lot city streets, parking lotsbecause everybody got off the
freeway.
So you need to be able tosubsist and to exist for at
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least 72 hours.
That was the old wisdom.
The new wisdom is now.
You need to be able to subsistor exist for up to two weeks.
That's because it's taking muchlonger for help to get there.
It's taking more time.
There are more strains on thesituation.
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Also, there's been some changesin the quote common wisdom.
The idea of being a gray man hasbecome very important and if
you're not familiar with that,it's talked about in our
previous podcast.
If you're a new person, googlegray man.
There are some videos and I'llbe sharing those again down the
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road.
I don't want to do it again toosoon.
The idea is you will blend in.
So if you got your go bag,should it be a brand new bag
from REI, looking great, lookinglike you're ready for a
tactical exercise, or should itbe a beat up old backpack?
Looks like it just threw a fewthings in there?
The idea is don't wear I eatdeath for breakfast t-shirts.
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Do not wear your tactical gear.
Do not make it look like you'reready to go on a commando raid.
This is regardless of what ageyou are.
Now, with really old people,that's almost funny, although I
will tell you, I know somereally old people who you simply
do not want to mess with.
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But if you're taking a backpackfull of stuff.
Don't make it look like a goodtarget to steal.
It should not have thingshanging out of it.
I got mine at the Army Navystore, which, by the way,
locally here in the Medford areais an excellent resource.
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I recommend local businessesall the time and I always like
going out to the Army Navy store.
They got good people who knowtheir products, so that's kind
of cool.
The Bunk Out Bag is made for youto get out and to survive, to
exist.
Now, what that means to some ofus is going to be different to
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the other.
To me, if there's no roomservice, I'm camping.
I want you to consider what youneed to be happy Now again, if
you're a younger family withlittle kids, or you've got the
grandparents with you, or it'sjust you and the wife and the
kids are with the grandparentsfor the weekend and now you've
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got to try and get together.
You have to consider all ofthese issues.
The bug out bag should have,regardless of your area,
regardless of your planning,regardless of your physical
condition, the things you cannotexist without Air, water, food
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and I'm going to add heat,warmth, whatever you want to
call it and light.
The final thing you need is away to defend yourself.
So let's look at air first.
You can last about threeminutes.
We talked about this last timeAir filters, masks.
There's emergency filters.
There's things that will handlea chemical spill.
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There are things that will justhandle dust and debris.
Your budget, sadly enough, willdictate what you can afford Now
.
Over the last eight years I'vegone from the official face mask
of COVID to the actual facemask that will survive a tear
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gas attack.
I did that after carefulresearch and looking.
It's not so much I'm worriedabout tear gas, but I'm worried
about toxins and stuff in theair.
Some of these tanks and holdingthings go Ammonia.
Oh my gosh, you don't want anyof that stuff in your lung.
Also, fire, fire and smoke.
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The particles get in there.
You're having a coughing fit.
You're not going to walk any 20miles a day if you can't
breathe.
Neither is the wife, neitherare the kids.
Think about air as we go.
I'll continue to refer toprevious episodes I'll do that
next week where we talk aboutsome different items to look at.
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I also have some goodrecommendations on things both
to buy and not to buy.
So these are past episodes.
I welcome you to scroll back.
Air is critical.
That's three minutes.
I've gone two and didn't carefor it.
Let's look at water, next Water.
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We are mostly water.
There are some of us who willsay we're mostly hot air.
Okay, I could live with that,but we're mostly water.
You need to drink waterregularly.
Dehydration we talked aboutheat stroke, especially in this
weather.
Oh my gosh, to be caughtwithout water in this type of
temperature, in this type ofarea.
If you gosh to be caughtwithout water in this type of
temperature, in this type ofarea.
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If you're going to be doing alot of walking and now you've
got your breathing under controlyou can get breathable, healthy
air.
You're going to need water.
You're going to need it on aregular basis and it's going to
have to be clean so you're notgiving yourself or your family
intestinal diarrhea like a tripto south of the border or you're
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getting chemicals.
The water in our creeks is notfit to drink.
I give these seminars to thepublic and say, hey, we're going
to have to have water, and theguy raises his hands.
Well, you've got a beautifulcreek out back.
That's Bear Creek.
It's wonderful.
Bear Creek is wonderful.
I like it.
It's a wonderful area, but it'snot good to drink.
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Neither is swimming pool water.
That's another myth, and 98% ofthe time that water out of your
toilet tank is not going to bevery drinkable, if at all,
especially depending upon whatyou use to keep your toilet
clean Air and water.
There are a number of filtrationthings.
There are a number of issues wehave talked about with water
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For you new folks.
Go back and review the issuesFor you.
Veterans know that.
For example, the Berkeleyfilter they have just stopped
making the refills, the bigblack things that go inside the
big Berkeleys to clear out yourwater.
For a reverse osmosis filter,yeah, they've had to stop making
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those and there's a new companyout.
You're going to want to followthat.
If you're looking at thoselittle filter straws, well,
those were okay then, but Ithink you're going to want to
look at some more advancedfiltration for water.
There are cups that are now Iwould equate them like a French
press coffee making unit inwhich you take the best water
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you can find, and that's veryimportant.
Start with the cleanest wateravailable.
Filter it a few times through at-shirt, through charcoal
granules, if you happen to haveany, or at least through a
t-shirt, and if you've got somebackwoods skills, there's a lot
of things you can do.
These are type of things we,the newbies, should be working
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on right now.
I can't give it to you here in20 minutes, but I want you to be
alerted to it.
Scroll back, look at the waterthings we've got, and there have
been some changes.
The top water filters of fiveyears ago are no longer Number
one.
This is because we're seeingwhat's called forever chemicals
in our water.
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We're also seeing moremicroplastics.
Yeah, that's exciting, allthose plastic bags they've been
nagging at you to do somethingwith.
Well, they're finally breakingdown and getting actually in the
microscopic level into thewater supply.
So that's interesting.
Let's start thinking about that.
You're going to need airfilters, you're going to need
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water filtration in your go bagand you're going to need some
food.
Now it used to be a couple ofgranola bars, maybe some top
ramen cup of noodles.
Something like that was all youwere going to need, because it
was likely you would get to ashelter or you would get out of
the area.
Now I have found that having atleast two weeks worth of food
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backup food is a good idea.
Now I use the dehydrated food.
It's from Mountain HouseProducts and what it is is a
self-contained unit, a foil bag,in which you open it carefully,
add a measured amount of water,which you heat, you stir it and
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you wait and you end up withchili or you end up with
macaroni and cheese.
It's not bad at all, I've eatenit.
I actually, on one of myprevious programs, cooked up a
bag.
I think I cooked one up for aclass that I taught and we
boiled some water in there overthe portable fire starter.
They loved that and heated itup and it was not too bad.
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We passed it out.
Everybody had a spoon and triedit.
Okay, now, emergency food shouldbe for emergency systems.
You should have some sporks orutility items, a spoon, a knife,
something you can use to eatthis food with, and you're going
to want to have a cup.
So a little meal kit needs tobe in this go bag.
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So you've got food, you've gotwater, you've got air filtration
.
You're going to need warmth andlight.
Now, in fire season, I hesitateto even mention starting a fire.
I think that is prettyirresponsible.
Now, if you're downtown in aconcrete area, that's a whole
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different thing.
If you're out in the woodssomewhere and you have not
started a fire since your CubScout days.
You've got work to do inadvance.
Also, there are other ways toheat things.
There are little fire-in-a-canitems going on Amazon for
emergency heat, emergency firethat's important.
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Emergency heat, emergency firethat's important.
And as we get into the colderweather, be careful with trying
to use your camp stove or just aportable flame in a tent,
because that's going to helpcarbon monoxide gather.
You're going to get smoke.
You're going to actually chokeyourself out.
So if you're new to this,you've got a lot of homework to
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do.
You've got a lot of reading.
If you're a veteran, let's takea look at some of the new fire
systems.
Now.
I firmly believe you shouldalways be able to build a fire.
You should have several firestarting ways available to you.
Primarily, when I go up toDiamond Lake for Thanksgiving
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dinner, it's usually snowing andcoming back down, the last time
we went, there was black iceall the way.
We had to stop and pull over afew times and had we gotten snow
and they were predicting it, wewould have been stuck on a
mountain road that you couldn'tdrive on and I would have had to
keep us warm in the car andperhaps heat things from our
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emergency food.
Look at where you go, look atwhere you're traveling, look at
what your normal day is andwhere you're going to be going
in an emergency.
That's part of planning.
So having some emergency food,emergency utensils, even if it's
just a cup and a spoon, isgoing to be really, really
important.
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Light I cannot tell you howimportant light is in an
emergency.
During the time we had thetalent fire, the one here in the
Ashland talent area, one of ourneighbors was doing okay on
everything, except they weresitting in the dark.
Even during the day it was kindof dark and at night they were
going nuts.
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They didn't have any lighting.
And this is when something assimple as those emergency light
sticks that you break can makethe difference.
Now, a rechargeable flashlight,a hand flashlight, candles
maybe, kerosene lamps maybe,depends on the situation.
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If you're having earthquakesprobably not Aftershocks can
burn your own house down withcandles and emergency stuff like
that, but the simple idea ofhaving one of those glow sticks
that are available at mosthardware stores.
They come in colors there'swhite, there's green and there's
red and there's even yellow.
You determine what you need thewhite for which is to see
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better.
The red to keep your nightvision in an emergency situation
.
Yellow can be used to markhazards, as can red and green
marking safe areas.
This is if you happen to be out,and let's go back to my car
trip.
If I'm stuck in the woodsalongside a road, starting to
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snow, I'm gonna want to markwhat's safe.
Well, there's quite a drop offover there, don't do that.
So in my go bag, I've got food,I've got water, I've got air
filters, I've got some light andsome heat.
Now, part of heat is being ableto build a fire.
Part of heat is being able tokeep warm yourself and,
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especially if you're trapped ina car or stuck in a car, a don't
die in the woods blanket.
That's the official blanket ofthe refuse to be a victim
podcast.
I've just made it.
I've just made it.
So it's something you can wrapyourself in and you are go
inside of it.
I got them.
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I chose those because they aremuch bigger physically and they
are much thicker physically andthey are much more flexible,
which means you can actuallywrap yourself up in it.
I'm a fairly large person and Iturn into a giant burrito.
It's really colors, or you canget the type of camo look that,
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if you don't want to attract alot of attention out in the
woods, you can do that Buildinga fire, knowing how to do it
safely, knowing how to heat food.
Think about being a gray man,don't stand out.
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What are the things you're goingto have to have with you in
this bag, in addition to thestuff we talked about?
Do you have medication you haveto take?
What do you have for first aid?
A simple cut or simple spraincan become a big deal in an
emergency situation.
What are you able to do?
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And again, this is not.
Yeah, I think I can do that.
What can you do when your wifeor your son or your daughter or
your husband looks at you andsays, hey, I need some help?
What can you do?
What do you have with you?
And this is why bug out bagsget so incredibly huge?
If you're bugging out on foot,you can carry what you can carry
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.
If you're bugging out in thecar, you got something in the
car.
Remember we talked about thatlast week.
The bug out bag from your homeis going to go with the bug out
bag or the get home bag in yourcar and now you've got two
stashes of supplies.
That's the process.
You're constantly building onwhat you can do, what do you
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know, what can you carry andwhat can you use.
Other things Getting information.
I will go off on a tirade and acouple of issues about the lack
of emergency information andthe fact our local broadcasters
have totally stepped away fromtheir responsibilities.
Shame on you.
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But I will say that WatchDutyis an app that you can get and
it's put out by real people andyou can get it on your phone and
it tells you when fires happenand what the status is.
Jackson County alerts and I'mgoing to include where to know
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your zone and the Jackson Countyalert site.
This is very, very useful.
It's a little unsettling latein the evening to have that
alert thing go off, but it'sreally, really good to know,
because I'd much rather havethree or four hours notice than
15 minutes when somebody comesdown on a sheriff's car with the
red lights flashing saying yougot to go.
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One big thing that's veryimportant is know your zone.
When those alerts come in,they're going to say okay,
everybody in zone 323 needs toget ready, needs to be on
standby.
Oh my gosh, this could be scary.
What zone are you in?
Gosh, this could be scary.
What zone are you in?
So this sounds complicated, butit's not, because once you get
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the prepping bug and once youand your family and I cannot
stress this enough if it's justmy wife and I my son lives in
another city, my sister lives inanother state.
We have some friends, butexcrement comes to the air
conditioner, it's just the twoof us.
We're prepared.
What about a young family?
What are you going to do forbrothers and sisters?
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Do you have immediate family inthe area?
What's going to happen?
This is important to talk aboutin advance, and once you start
talking about it and you don'thave to become nuts and hold
weekly meetings and drills I dorecommend holding family
meetings on the topic, and thatmeans including the kids Stuff
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that's going to go in your bugout bag, beyond meds, the first
aid supplies, things like that.
I recommend a deck of cards forboredom.
I recommend you're going towant to have and this is
regardless of the family a thumbdrive containing all kinds of
information you're going to needand you're also going to want
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it in a laminated piece of paperemergency numbers, people to
call addresses, things you mayneed in an emergency, insurance
policies, all of that stuff.
Who's your agent?
How do you reach that person?
All of this stuff has to comewith you.
Sounds daunting, but it's not.
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The more you think about it,the more you start researching.
The more you look at theseideas we've got for you, the
more it's going to happen.
And that's what you got to do.
You got to baby step into it.
Buying equipment we're going totalk about that next week.
Some people and I'm guilty ofthis myself I've been doing this
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a long time so I kind of lookat it with one eyebrow.
I go, oh, look at that.
Just the idea of a pocket knifeor having a blade in your go
bag to cut food or to cut up astick for kindling, or to skin a
squirrel, make a cool hat.
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There's a lot of things.
Some of us and I discoveredthis when I was working the
thought of a person having aknife is almost as frightening
as them having a firearm in aschool zone To some people.
I had quite the set to where Iused to work because it was
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discovered he's got a pocketknife.
Yeah, I have a holder I've beencarrying for like 14 years.
Deal with it.
It turns out I was in the jobthat I opened up all the boxes
and such, but we're going totalk next time about buying
equipment.
You should have a good knife,but what makes a good knife for
a new person?
You should have a good knife,but what makes a good knife for
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a new person and what makes agood knife for somebody who's
been using one for 20 or 30years?
If you're a newbie and you'refeeling overwhelmed, there's a
lot of things here.
There are also you can reachout and talk to other people, I
think.
For the last three years I'vebeen giving free workshops
throughout the community andI've pretty well worn out that
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welcome mat.
So I am available now to giveworkshops on this very topic and
they are 90 minutes.
They include a lot of links,they include some demos, they
include looks at products and Iwill be charging for those now
and, if you're interested,there's a link on the website at
Refuse to be a Victim and youcan always email me directly.
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My email address is where youlog in and let's see final
things to look at.
Classes coming up.
It's now time.
As the fall comes up, the daysget shorter days, get cooler,
don't forget we do still haveclasses available.
We have a lot of options, fromnon-ballistic self-defense right
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up to tactical training.
So do call, do stop by thewebsite, see what we've got.
There's new thoughts, there'snew information coming out in
all areas, be it prepping, be itfirearms, be it personal safety
, more important than ever now.
Don't be the one standing therelooking like a deer in the
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headlight, especially if you'vegot a family, especially if
you've got people counting onyou.
Don't think no bug out bagwithout a plan is just a really
long walk.
We'll see you next week.
Thanks for listening.
Subscribe, share, be safe, havea good one.
The preceding was apresentation of Retired Guy
(28:14):
Productions.
Last week we took a look at how things were eight or
nine years ago.
Now we're doing survival beyondthe bug-out bag 2.0.
This week, the get-out-a-dodgebag or the original go-bag.
Come on in, let's talk aboutthis.
Well, hi everybody, I'm BillBateman, part of the team here
(00:28):
at Refuse to be a VictimPersonal Protection Training.
We are located in theMedford-White City area of
Southern Oregon and you'realways invited to come on by and
visit us.
We are at 6800 KershawBoulevard.
Now I do want to tell tell youFoothill is undergoing some
construction, so you may want togive us a call as to how to get
(00:51):
there.
We aren't going to send upsmoke signals there's just too
much of that going on but we'llhelp you get here either way.
Okay, last time we took anoverview.
I explained that we wanted toupdate and welcome new listeners
.
We're still going to try andhave information that's of value
(01:12):
for our regular listeners andreach the other 70% of people
here in Oregon who have not yetbegun prepping, getting ready
for those knocks at the door inthe middle of the night or those
emergency phone calls.
And, as we've stressed the lasttime, this is not just the
major brush fire or the bigearthquake Just last week we had
(01:35):
in our area some alerts on thephone brush fire, freeway closed
and evacuation notices listed,so this stuff can pop up really
quick.
It wasn't a major oh my goshfire, but several folks did have
to actually leave their homes.
So let's look at the go bag inspecific.
(01:56):
Last time we talked about thegeneralization of the go bag,
the get home bag, the bag foryour car, the bag for your
office, and how those thingshave all developed into new
systems, ideally that you mergetogether.
There's also a bag, the I'mnever coming home bag, that's if
(02:17):
you think you're going to haveto get out and really make some
changes.
So all of these things havehappened because of the changes
in our lifestyle, the changes inour weather, the changes in a
whole number of things.
Being prepared is now really alife-saving skill.
(02:37):
It used to be able to.
You know you could probably getby.
Now not so much.
You should have your ownmedical, you should have your
own air filtration, you shouldhave your own water and you
should have your own food, aswell as defensive and medical
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type capabilities.
So let's look at specificallythe go bag.
The go bag is what happens whenyou get that knock at the door
or your alert goes off and theysay folks, you've got about five
minutes to get out of Dodge.
If you don't know what to do, atthat point, ladies and
gentlemen, I cannot do a wholelot for you, because that's why
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I'm here to remind you.
Let's start planning today.
Stop listening, get the familytogether, start talking about
this.
Now, what's changed?
A lot.
I focused a lot on seniorcitizens.
I am a senior myself.
Just had my diamond birthday,if you folks know what that is.
That's pretty scary.
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I never expected to get here,but okay, it's not too bad.
I'm going to be talking aboutall levels of prepping, because
for younger people, especiallywith young families, prepping is
a whole different thing.
It's different for all of usand we're going to be talking
about the things that make itdifferent Age, health, physical
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ability.
If you're a young person, thatlong wasn't all that long ago I
could throw on a 50 poundbackpack and run all over the
forest.
Now not so much.
If you're a young parent, areyou prepared to do that?
Don't think you can do it.
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Know you can do it, know whatyou're capable of doing.
This is life-threatening orlife-saving, depending upon how
you want to look at it.
You're in a serious situation.
I think I can only counts ifyou're a cartoon train.
Know what you can do.
The Go Bag is designed to getyou out of your home in an
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emergency situation and give youthat which you need to subsist
until you can get additionalshelter.
You can get to a safe area.
You may have to be out on yourown.
You may have to go to a groupshelter.
You may have to check into amotel five cities away.
I have been in all thosesituations.
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Know what's available in yourarea.
Check with your city and yourcounty and look at their
emergency plans.
That way you know where you'regoing.
So key step for a go bag, keystep for prepping plan what's
going to happen.
Not the emergency, because youhave no idea what's going to
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happen, but plan which way youcan go, know which way is going
to jam up.
Know which way is not practical.
Getting on the freeway in thisarea the last fire was a parking
lot city streets, parking lotsbecause everybody got off the
freeway.
So you need to be able tosubsist and to exist for at
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least 72 hours.
That was the old wisdom.
The new wisdom is now.
You need to be able to subsistor exist for up to two weeks.
That's because it's taking muchlonger for help to get there.
It's taking more time.
There are more strains on thesituation.
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Also, there's been some changesin the quote common wisdom.
The idea of being a gray man hasbecome very important and if
you're not familiar with that,it's talked about in our
previous podcast.
If you're a new person, googlegray man.
There are some videos and I'llbe sharing those again down the
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road.
I don't want to do it again toosoon.
The idea is you will blend in.
So if you got your go bag,should it be a brand new bag
from REI, looking great, lookinglike you're ready for a
tactical exercise, or should itbe a beat up old backpack?
Looks like it just threw a fewthings in there?
The idea is don't wear I eatdeath for breakfast t-shirts.
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Do not wear your tactical gear.
Do not make it look like you'reready to go on a commando raid.
This is regardless of what ageyou are.
Now, with really old people,that's almost funny, although I
will tell you, I know somereally old people who you simply
do not want to mess with.
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But if you're taking a backpackfull of stuff.
Don't make it look like a goodtarget to steal.
It should not have thingshanging out of it.
I got mine at the Army Navystore, which, by the way,
locally here in the Medford areais an excellent resource.
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I recommend local businessesall the time and I always like
going out to the Army Navy store.
They got good people who knowtheir products, so that's kind
of cool.
The Bunk Out Bag is made for youto get out and to survive, to
exist.
Now, what that means to some ofus is going to be different to
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the other.
To me, if there's no roomservice, I'm camping.
I want you to consider what youneed to be happy Now again, if
you're a younger family withlittle kids, or you've got the
grandparents with you, or it'sjust you and the wife and the
kids are with the grandparentsfor the weekend and now you've
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got to try and get together.
You have to consider all ofthese issues.
The bug out bag should have,regardless of your area,
regardless of your planning,regardless of your physical
condition, the things you cannotexist without Air, water, food
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and I'm going to add heat,warmth, whatever you want to
call it and light.
The final thing you need is away to defend yourself.
So let's look at air first.
You can last about threeminutes.
We talked about this last timeAir filters, masks.
There's emergency filters.
There's things that will handlea chemical spill.
(09:19):
There are things that will justhandle dust and debris.
Your budget, sadly enough, willdictate what you can afford Now
.
Over the last eight years I'vegone from the official face mask
of COVID to the actual facemask that will survive a tear
(09:39):
gas attack.
I did that after carefulresearch and looking.
It's not so much I'm worriedabout tear gas, but I'm worried
about toxins and stuff in theair.
Some of these tanks and holdingthings go Ammonia.
Oh my gosh, you don't want anyof that stuff in your lung.
Also, fire, fire and smoke.
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The particles get in there.
You're having a coughing fit.
You're not going to walk any 20miles a day if you can't
breathe.
Neither is the wife, neitherare the kids.
Think about air as we go.
I'll continue to refer toprevious episodes I'll do that
next week where we talk aboutsome different items to look at.
(10:24):
I also have some goodrecommendations on things both
to buy and not to buy.
So these are past episodes.
I welcome you to scroll back.
Air is critical.
That's three minutes.
I've gone two and didn't carefor it.
Let's look at water, next Water.
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We are mostly water.
There are some of us who willsay we're mostly hot air.
Okay, I could live with that,but we're mostly water.
You need to drink waterregularly.
Dehydration we talked aboutheat stroke, especially in this
weather.
Oh my gosh, to be caughtwithout water in this type of
temperature, in this type ofarea.
If you gosh to be caughtwithout water in this type of
temperature, in this type ofarea.
(11:06):
If you're going to be doing alot of walking and now you've
got your breathing under controlyou can get breathable, healthy
air.
You're going to need water.
You're going to need it on aregular basis and it's going to
have to be clean so you're notgiving yourself or your family
intestinal diarrhea like a tripto south of the border or you're
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getting chemicals.
The water in our creeks is notfit to drink.
I give these seminars to thepublic and say, hey, we're going
to have to have water, and theguy raises his hands.
Well, you've got a beautifulcreek out back.
That's Bear Creek.
It's wonderful.
Bear Creek is wonderful.
I like it.
It's a wonderful area, but it'snot good to drink.
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Neither is swimming pool water.
That's another myth, and 98% ofthe time that water out of your
toilet tank is not going to bevery drinkable, if at all,
especially depending upon whatyou use to keep your toilet
clean Air and water.
There are a number of filtrationthings.
There are a number of issues wehave talked about with water
(12:13):
For you new folks.
Go back and review the issuesFor you.
Veterans know that.
For example, the Berkeleyfilter they have just stopped
making the refills, the bigblack things that go inside the
big Berkeleys to clear out yourwater.
For a reverse osmosis filter,yeah, they've had to stop making
(12:35):
those and there's a new companyout.
You're going to want to followthat.
If you're looking at thoselittle filter straws, well,
those were okay then, but Ithink you're going to want to
look at some more advancedfiltration for water.
There are cups that are now Iwould equate them like a French
press coffee making unit inwhich you take the best water
(12:57):
you can find, and that's veryimportant.
Start with the cleanest wateravailable.
Filter it a few times through at-shirt, through charcoal
granules, if you happen to haveany, or at least through a
t-shirt, and if you've got somebackwoods skills, there's a lot
of things you can do.
These are type of things we,the newbies, should be working
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on right now.
I can't give it to you here in20 minutes, but I want you to be
alerted to it.
Scroll back, look at the waterthings we've got, and there have
been some changes.
The top water filters of fiveyears ago are no longer Number
one.
This is because we're seeingwhat's called forever chemicals
in our water.
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We're also seeing moremicroplastics.
Yeah, that's exciting, allthose plastic bags they've been
nagging at you to do somethingwith.
Well, they're finally breakingdown and getting actually in the
microscopic level into thewater supply.
So that's interesting.
Let's start thinking about that.
You're going to need airfilters, you're going to need
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water filtration in your go bagand you're going to need some
food.
Now it used to be a couple ofgranola bars, maybe some top
ramen cup of noodles.
Something like that was all youwere going to need, because it
was likely you would get to ashelter or you would get out of
the area.
Now I have found that having atleast two weeks worth of food
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backup food is a good idea.
Now I use the dehydrated food.
It's from Mountain HouseProducts and what it is is a
self-contained unit, a foil bag,in which you open it carefully,
add a measured amount of water,which you heat, you stir it and
(14:52):
you wait and you end up withchili or you end up with
macaroni and cheese.
It's not bad at all, I've eatenit.
I actually, on one of myprevious programs, cooked up a
bag.
I think I cooked one up for aclass that I taught and we
boiled some water in there overthe portable fire starter.
They loved that and heated itup and it was not too bad.
(15:18):
We passed it out.
Everybody had a spoon and triedit.
Okay, now, emergency food shouldbe for emergency systems.
You should have some sporks orutility items, a spoon, a knife,
something you can use to eatthis food with, and you're going
to want to have a cup.
So a little meal kit needs tobe in this go bag.
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So you've got food, you've gotwater, you've got air filtration
.
You're going to need warmth andlight.
Now, in fire season, I hesitateto even mention starting a fire.
I think that is prettyirresponsible.
Now, if you're downtown in aconcrete area, that's a whole
(16:01):
different thing.
If you're out in the woodssomewhere and you have not
started a fire since your CubScout days.
You've got work to do inadvance.
Also, there are other ways toheat things.
There are little fire-in-a-canitems going on Amazon for
emergency heat, emergency firethat's important.
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Emergency heat, emergency firethat's important.
And as we get into the colderweather, be careful with trying
to use your camp stove or just aportable flame in a tent,
because that's going to helpcarbon monoxide gather.
You're going to get smoke.
You're going to actually chokeyourself out.
So if you're new to this,you've got a lot of homework to
(16:44):
do.
You've got a lot of reading.
If you're a veteran, let's takea look at some of the new fire
systems.
Now.
I firmly believe you shouldalways be able to build a fire.
You should have several firestarting ways available to you.
Primarily, when I go up toDiamond Lake for Thanksgiving
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dinner, it's usually snowing andcoming back down, the last time
we went, there was black iceall the way.
We had to stop and pull over afew times and had we gotten snow
and they were predicting it, wewould have been stuck on a
mountain road that you couldn'tdrive on and I would have had to
keep us warm in the car andperhaps heat things from our
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emergency food.
Look at where you go, look atwhere you're traveling, look at
what your normal day is andwhere you're going to be going
in an emergency.
That's part of planning.
So having some emergency food,emergency utensils, even if it's
just a cup and a spoon, isgoing to be really, really
important.
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Light I cannot tell you howimportant light is in an
emergency.
During the time we had thetalent fire, the one here in the
Ashland talent area, one of ourneighbors was doing okay on
everything, except they weresitting in the dark.
Even during the day it was kindof dark and at night they were
going nuts.
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They didn't have any lighting.
And this is when something assimple as those emergency light
sticks that you break can makethe difference.
Now, a rechargeable flashlight,a hand flashlight, candles
maybe, kerosene lamps maybe,depends on the situation.
(18:30):
If you're having earthquakesprobably not Aftershocks can
burn your own house down withcandles and emergency stuff like
that, but the simple idea ofhaving one of those glow sticks
that are available at mosthardware stores.
They come in colors there'swhite, there's green and there's
red and there's even yellow.
You determine what you need thewhite for which is to see
(18:54):
better.
The red to keep your nightvision in an emergency situation
.
Yellow can be used to markhazards, as can red and green
marking safe areas.
This is if you happen to be out,and let's go back to my car
trip.
If I'm stuck in the woodsalongside a road, starting to
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snow, I'm gonna want to markwhat's safe.
Well, there's quite a drop offover there, don't do that.
So in my go bag, I've got food,I've got water, I've got air
filters, I've got some light andsome heat.
Now, part of heat is being ableto build a fire.
Part of heat is being able tokeep warm yourself and,
(19:39):
especially if you're trapped ina car or stuck in a car, a don't
die in the woods blanket.
That's the official blanket ofthe refuse to be a victim
podcast.
I've just made it.
I've just made it.
So it's something you can wrapyourself in and you are go
inside of it.
I got them.
(20:00):
I chose those because they aremuch bigger physically and they
are much thicker physically andthey are much more flexible,
which means you can actuallywrap yourself up in it.
I'm a fairly large person and Iturn into a giant burrito.
It's really colors, or you canget the type of camo look that,
(20:20):
if you don't want to attract alot of attention out in the
woods, you can do that Buildinga fire, knowing how to do it
safely, knowing how to heat food.
Think about being a gray man,don't stand out.
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What are the things you're goingto have to have with you in
this bag, in addition to thestuff we talked about?
Do you have medication you haveto take?
What do you have for first aid?
A simple cut or simple spraincan become a big deal in an
emergency situation.
What are you able to do?
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And again, this is not.
Yeah, I think I can do that.
What can you do when your wifeor your son or your daughter or
your husband looks at you andsays, hey, I need some help?
What can you do?
What do you have with you?
And this is why bug out bagsget so incredibly huge?
If you're bugging out on foot,you can carry what you can carry
(21:30):
.
If you're bugging out in thecar, you got something in the
car.
Remember we talked about thatlast week.
The bug out bag from your homeis going to go with the bug out
bag or the get home bag in yourcar and now you've got two
stashes of supplies.
That's the process.
You're constantly building onwhat you can do, what do you
(21:54):
know, what can you carry andwhat can you use.
Other things Getting information.
I will go off on a tirade and acouple of issues about the lack
of emergency information andthe fact our local broadcasters
have totally stepped away fromtheir responsibilities.
Shame on you.
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But I will say that WatchDutyis an app that you can get and
it's put out by real people andyou can get it on your phone and
it tells you when fires happenand what the status is.
Jackson County alerts and I'mgoing to include where to know
(22:42):
your zone and the Jackson Countyalert site.
This is very, very useful.
It's a little unsettling latein the evening to have that
alert thing go off, but it'sreally, really good to know,
because I'd much rather havethree or four hours notice than
15 minutes when somebody comesdown on a sheriff's car with the
red lights flashing saying yougot to go.
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One big thing that's veryimportant is know your zone.
When those alerts come in,they're going to say okay,
everybody in zone 323 needs toget ready, needs to be on
standby.
Oh my gosh, this could be scary.
What zone are you in?
Gosh, this could be scary.
What zone are you in?
So this sounds complicated, butit's not, because once you get
(23:29):
the prepping bug and once youand your family and I cannot
stress this enough if it's justmy wife and I my son lives in
another city, my sister lives inanother state.
We have some friends, butexcrement comes to the air
conditioner, it's just the twoof us.
We're prepared.
What about a young family?
What are you going to do forbrothers and sisters?
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Do you have immediate family inthe area?
What's going to happen?
This is important to talk aboutin advance, and once you start
talking about it and you don'thave to become nuts and hold
weekly meetings and drills I dorecommend holding family
meetings on the topic, and thatmeans including the kids Stuff
(24:13):
that's going to go in your bugout bag, beyond meds, the first
aid supplies, things like that.
I recommend a deck of cards forboredom.
I recommend you're going towant to have and this is
regardless of the family a thumbdrive containing all kinds of
information you're going to needand you're also going to want
(24:33):
it in a laminated piece of paperemergency numbers, people to
call addresses, things you mayneed in an emergency, insurance
policies, all of that stuff.
Who's your agent?
How do you reach that person?
All of this stuff has to comewith you.
Sounds daunting, but it's not.
(24:55):
The more you think about it,the more you start researching.
The more you look at theseideas we've got for you, the
more it's going to happen.
And that's what you got to do.
You got to baby step into it.
Buying equipment we're going totalk about that next week.
Some people and I'm guilty ofthis myself I've been doing this
(25:17):
a long time so I kind of lookat it with one eyebrow.
I go, oh, look at that.
Just the idea of a pocket knifeor having a blade in your go
bag to cut food or to cut up astick for kindling, or to skin a
squirrel, make a cool hat.
(25:38):
There's a lot of things.
Some of us and I discoveredthis when I was working the
thought of a person having aknife is almost as frightening
as them having a firearm in aschool zone To some people.
I had quite the set to where Iused to work because it was
(25:58):
discovered he's got a pocketknife.
Yeah, I have a holder I've beencarrying for like 14 years.
Deal with it.
It turns out I was in the jobthat I opened up all the boxes
and such, but we're going totalk next time about buying
equipment.
You should have a good knife,but what makes a good knife for
a new person?
You should have a good knife,but what makes a good knife for
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a new person and what makes agood knife for somebody who's
been using one for 20 or 30years?
If you're a newbie and you'refeeling overwhelmed, there's a
lot of things here.
There are also you can reachout and talk to other people, I
think.
For the last three years I'vebeen giving free workshops
throughout the community andI've pretty well worn out that
(26:41):
welcome mat.
So I am available now to giveworkshops on this very topic and
they are 90 minutes.
They include a lot of links,they include some demos, they
include looks at products and Iwill be charging for those now
and, if you're interested,there's a link on the website at
Refuse to be a Victim and youcan always email me directly.
(27:04):
My email address is where youlog in and let's see final
things to look at.
Classes coming up.
It's now time.
As the fall comes up, the daysget shorter days, get cooler,
don't forget we do still haveclasses available.
We have a lot of options, fromnon-ballistic self-defense right
(27:27):
up to tactical training.
So do call, do stop by thewebsite, see what we've got.
There's new thoughts, there'snew information coming out in
all areas, be it prepping, be itfirearms, be it personal safety
, more important than ever now.
Don't be the one standing therelooking like a deer in the
(27:49):
headlight, especially if you'vegot a family, especially if
you've got people counting onyou.
Don't think no bug out bagwithout a plan is just a really
long walk.
We'll see you next week.
Thanks for listening.
Subscribe, share, be safe, havea good one.
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