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A harrowing survival story opens this eye-opening episode as we learn how a 79-year-old skier survived a night in the Montana backcountry using only basic survival skills and minimal equipment. His experience dramatically illustrates why proper preparation matters when stepping out your front door—especially as global supply chains weaken and store shelves show initial gaps.

From tiny keychain lights to comprehensive bug-out strategies, we explore the spectrum of personal preparedness tools that can save lives when unexpected emergencies strike. The humble flashlight serves as our starting point—whether it's an $11 micro light that lasts a decade or a powerful rechargeable behemoth capable of charging phones during power outages. We examine fire starters, whistles, compasses, and other compact tools that easily fit in your pocket, console, or everyday carry.

Beyond gear, we delve into the critical nature of family emergency planning. With parents typically working in separate locations while children attend school or daycare, coordinating meeting points and establishing communication protocols becomes essential. The episode emphasizes teaching children safety measures like verification code words and making everyone feel invested in the family's emergency preparations. 

The preparedness window is closing faster than many realize. Now is the time to assemble supplies, develop skills, and create thoughtful plans—whether for bugging out or hunkering down. Emergency preparation isn't about fear; it's about responsibility. As we navigate increasingly uncertain times, becoming your own first responder until professional help arrives isn't optional—it's necessary. Browse our newly launched bug-out bag classes and learn to protect what matters most.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Well, hi everybody.
I'm Bill Bateman, part of theteam here at Refuse to be a
Victim, personal ProtectionTraining, and this is another
episode of Survival Beyond theBugout Bag 2.0.
Now we have, as you see, gonevideo.
I've come up with a nice Zoombackground I think is

(00:30):
semi-appropriate.
A little cold, a little crispFinally got up to 50 at our
house.
But we're in the Medford WhiteCity area of Southern Oregon and
we're just shaking off winteror trying to, and we are located
at 6800 Kershaw.
If you happen to be so inclinedto come and visit us.
We've got links on the loginfor everything we're going to

(00:53):
share today, including how tofind us.
So let's look at how we areequipped.
We've talked about prepping.
We talked about the importanceof it.
We've talked about the factthat the window to start
prepping is closing and I thinkthat's something everybody has
to realize.
There are already empty spotson some of the shelves.

(01:13):
It's important for you and yourfamily to get active now and,
taking a look at just smallthings, we're going to start
small.
Today I heard a story thatcaught my attention.
A gentleman, 79 years old, wasgoing to go out and do a little
skiing.
He was up in the Montana areaand when he parked his car and

(01:36):
headed for the ski runs, youhave to wonder what he had in
his pocket.
Now, when I go out to do aspecial activity, I do a quick
check and make sure I've got thethings I think I'm going to
need and, as of late, the thingsI might need, the things that
are going to be important.
Let's look at how thisgentleman's day turned out for

(01:57):
him.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Flyhead County Sheriff's Office says on Monday
they got a call reporting that a79-year-old skier went missing
who had last been seen onEdmonds Run in the Black Ski
area.
Flight Search and Rescue andTwo Bear Air tried to fly over
the area but had to turn backdue to poor visibility.
Ground search efforts continueduntil 1 am when the team paused

(02:20):
until daybreak.
At about 3 pm on Tuesday, twoBear Air spotted the skier on
the ground, calling out for help.
After saving the skier theylearned that he'd gone off trail
and had become disoriented.
He survived the night byspending the night in a tree,
using pine branches for warmthand making a small fire to stay
warm.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
And to update that story, that's from Two Bear Air,
which is in the Montana area.
This has been on the Today Show.
There's been a lot of reportingabout it.
It turns out he didn't spendhis night in a tree, he spent it
in a tree well.
Now, if you go off country, inthe back country at all, a tree
well is an area protected by thebranches in the trees, the tree

(03:03):
, the snow falls.
Protected by the branches inthe trees, the tree, the snow
falls.
Snow does not fall as heavilyaround the base of the tree as
it does away from the tree.
This creates an actual well.
Now, if you're a snowboarder oryou're a skier, you should know
about these.
And if you don't, don't go outuntil you do, because people die
.
You can actually be skiingalong and boop, you go in head

(03:26):
first.
Now, you're head first, you'reoff the trail, you're invisible
because the snow is going tofall on top of you and the
technical term is dead.
You can suffocate, you canfreeze.
So that's why you always ski ingroups or snowboard in pairs.
Don't lose sight of yourpartner.
Just common sense.
If you're in that specificendeavor, and that's why I

(03:48):
talked about when you get out ofthe car you pack the kind of
things you're going to need forthe expedition or for the
adventure.
I would not go out in thebackcountry these days without
some sort of satellite-basedsignature or signaling device.
It's very important.
Things can get very scary veryquickly.

(04:09):
This guy had with him enoughknowledge of what a tree well
was, so he didn't fall in it.
He got in it, packed the snowaround the edges, built a small
fire presuming he had a firestarter or a lighter or
something that he could create afire with and used branches to

(04:32):
insulate and keep himself warm.
They have a good picture ofthis gentleman being airlifted
up.
He's in good shape.
He survived.
Thank you to the rescuers.
As always and this is anexample what you have with you
when you step out that door canreally impact how the rest of

(04:52):
your day ends up.
And we're going to look at someexamples I'll be putting up.
I'm kind of constrained by myvideo setup here, so I will be
kind of showing you products,but the ones I do will put up a
little screen with the actualitem and where to find them.
Now I need to before I go toofar down the road.

(05:14):
We are changing here at theprogram I've been doing, like I
said, eight.
This is going into our ninthyear of doing this.
We don't have sponsors.
It allows me to say, boy,that's garbage.
We don't have sponsors.
It allows me to say, boy,that's garbage, don't buy that,
without really upsetting toomany people.
Because if it is, it is.
I buy what I use, I try it andthen I come and I talk to you

(05:35):
about it.
I have now reached that pointthat I'm going to have to start
doing something to offset thecosts.
I just walked out of thegrocery store with nearly $100
worth of groceries and I couldcarry it with one hand.
That's scary.
I'm going to change.
I had a couple of choices.
I could make this asubscription site.

(05:56):
I could charge people.
I could pander for donations,which I think is this is just
not me.
Or I am going to berecommending products.
These are products I have usedand I stand behind.
I recommend, and I have becomean Amazon affiliate, which means

(06:17):
if you buy something, thisprogram gets a small percentage
of that sale to help offset mycosts.
So that's what we've chosen todo.
When we begin doing this,you'll see little notices on the
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.
So a way you can help supportus your letters are great,

(06:38):
seeing at the range is great,coming to our classes.
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Now, there's no reason.
If you see something you likeand you head on out to your Army
, navy or Marine store, they gota good deal on it too.

(07:01):
Absolutely, I strongly believein shopping local.
So let's look at what I'mtalking about here.
Okay, I'm back.
I found that trying to be toocute on camera just doesn't work
.
So let's talk about light.
Walking out your door with yourcar keys, if you're in weather,

(07:23):
like you see behind me on thebackground, it's going to start
getting dark, it's going tostart getting cold.
So what do you have with you?
I'm going to start small andwe're going to go really, really
big and talk about things youcan have with you in the event
of Now I've got my car keys here.
There they go.
There's the key ring.
We'll bring it back a littleeasier and, if you notice, there

(07:47):
is a very small micro light.
Now, I got one of these as agift, I want to say 10 years ago
.
You squeeze it and it getsbright.
It's not my first choice, but Iwill tell you.
I bought one of these about 10years ago.
I moved up here from humboldtin about 10 years ago, maybe

(08:11):
well closer to 12.
Now the one I bought just diedand I had to replace it.
It said it had a 10-yearwarranty.
I thought, right, it did it.
Were it cost, right it did.
It cost me $11, $12.
Best money I ever spent.
Put it on my keychain.
If you need that just a littlebit of extra light to get your

(08:31):
key in the lock or to get analarm code entered.
It was worth it.
So those are $11.99.
I also got as a gift a box fromsome friends of mine.
A gift, a box from some friendsof mine.
I'm not going to show the brandon it, but it's a there it is,
it's watertight and it has abunch of stuff in it.

(08:53):
Some of it was really good,some of it I instantly threw out
.
But it's still in my seatbetween the two seats whatever
you want to call that in thelittle console I have there.
So one of the items in it was aflashlight.
It just runs off a battery, aAA battery.

(09:15):
You can use a rechargeable, youcan put in a long-term lithium.
It's got what I really preferthe light switch here on the end
of it and it's and come back toit.
So this fit in your console andyou have a little bit bigger
light.
You can direct the beam.
Now my everyday carry.

(09:36):
Interestingly enough, I have twoflashlights this I can't find
the brand on right off the topof my head, but when I put it up
to share it with you I willhave that information.
This one is got the on-offswitch here on the side.
It has a pocket clip.
It's bright.
I'll tell you that.

(09:57):
Well, yeah, it flashes, itstrobes, it slices, dices, makes
julienne fries.
It's a lot of fun.
And the other one I almostalways have with me is this one
is by Boulder and it is aflashlight, also pocket size.

(10:17):
Let's see, here we go A littlefit in your pocket.
It's got a little pocket clipand at the end is an on-off
button.
I prefer that the reason.
The other one I have where ithas the button here.
If that's in your pocket andyou bump into it, it's going to
turn on.
And I have been driving and feltthis burning in my leg.

(10:39):
I said what's going on downthere?
Pulled off the road.
The darn thing was heating thefabric in my pants.
I mean, these things get hot.
Something to consider,something to consider.
And, uh, I have gone tochoosing this one with the end
button as my personal choice.
That allows me if I have tobring it up and turn it on.

(11:01):
I'm going to actually have itaway from my body if I have to
when we get to that position,but, uh, it allows me.
It also comes with a free what Icall what we call a DNA
collector.
You have to use this as adefensive weapon.
You can have some DNA evidenceof your attacker to present to

(11:23):
law enforcement.
These are metal, these areheavy, these are durable.
I've been using them for a longtime.
The idea is having somethingwith you that you can use Now.
It starts out as fitting in theconsole of the car.
It just works out quite nicely.
It can be even attached to yourcar keys.

(11:44):
The car keys always come withme when I come out of the car,
non-negotiable.
And the idea is you've gotsomething that you're going to
need Now.
Small little things are good tohave In addition to the
flashlight, one of the things Ikept was a whistle, a little

(12:05):
metal whistle.
It's gosh awful loud, trust me.
Yeah, you're not.
You can stand in the middle ofthe field or in the middle of
downtown parking lots andattract quite a lot of attention
with one of these.
It's metal.
Of course it comes with a keyring.
Everything comes with a keyring and you can travel easily

(12:26):
with you.
What else do we have in there?
We have a compass.
If you don't know how to use acompass, or it's been so many
years you've forgotten, spend 20bucks.
Take a class.
I know REI has a good programon using topographical maps,
reading a compass.
I have seen people who can'tuse a car map.
You unwrap the map from the gasstation and where's Roseburg?

(12:49):
That's kind of frightening, butthat's the generation we live
in.
The cell tower goes down, thephone doesn't work, you're in a
no-service area.
Gps is just a set of letters.
One thing that was in the littlemagic box was a fire starter.
Now I think that gentleman whowandered off and got disoriented

(13:17):
and wandered off into a snow,well, probably either had a
lighter or something to start afire with.
This is a rod ferro.
I believe they call itferrocyte rod and it comes with
a scrapey thing and for somereason, every one of these

(13:39):
little scrapey things I don'tknow if you can see it has a
measuring unit on it.
It's measured like this onegoes to yeah, this has got two
inches and it's in inches and inmillimeters Always important
when you're out there sparkingup a fire.
What you need to know about afire rod like these notice it's
black.
When I first got one nine yearsago I hadn't used one since the

(14:00):
Boy Scouts and I forgot.
They come coated.
This is black for a purpose.
It's coated with some material.
So if you take your littlescrapey scrapey and you try to
give it a good, healthy scrapeI've been at this enough you
might get a little, but untilyou scrape off the paint you get

(14:22):
nothing what you want to do.
And let's see if I can come toan area.
Here we go, there we go andscrape off and now you're in a
position to make fire.
When we're looking at lightsagain, top of the food chain is
this thing.
It is like the old six cell Dpolice lights.

(14:47):
This thing is huge, it's amonster, it's heavy, it's got a
lot of light.
You can land an aircraft withthis.
Quite seriously, this thinggoes up to like a gazillion
candle power.
It's almost a lightsaber.
It's incredible the good thingabout this.
And it is rechargeable.
It does not have batteriesinside.

(15:09):
You recharge it by sliding alittle port, plugging it in to a
power source usually a USB typepower source which works for a
power generator or put it inyour car while you're driving,
keep it topped off.
This thing also has the abilityif the head of the light gets
damaged, if for some reason thelight's ruined, you can't use it

(15:31):
.
You don't have to throw it out.
All of the power that's storedin the handle can be used by
sliding down and there's alittle power port in there.
That means you can charge acell phone, you can charge an
emergency light, you can chargeanother item, another self,
another flashlight.

(15:52):
You can charge any number ofthings by using the handle.
So it gives dual ability tothis.
So whether you're looking atflashlights, which I think are
vital, especially now coming outof the winter and days are
getting longer, it's not so much, but all winter long, I had at
least one flashlight with me andin my bug out bag.

(16:14):
One is none and two is one.
It's an old saying you're goingto lose it.
You can't find it.
Where'd it go?
I know where another one is.
We'll talk about how toorganize your bug out bag at the
next meeting.
So, looking at lights, there'sall kinds to have.

(16:35):
The point is think small, whatcan you have in my little box,
my little console box that Ihave?
You can buy the boxes and thisis what we recommend.
I don't recommend buying kitspre-made.
I would show you where to findthose boxes and make suggestions

(16:58):
of what I might put in them.
What you're going to put inthem are going to be totally
different.
The trick is being prepared, andI mentioned at the top of the
program and I'm going to mentionit again, the window is closing
on getting prepared the program, and I'm going to mention it
again, the window is closing ongetting prepared.
You need to start looking atfood that you can store now,

(17:23):
because it's already starting toget thin on some of the shelves
.
You need to look at medicalsupplies, simple things like
gauze, learn how to rollbandages, learn how to stop
bleeding, all the things we'vetalked about.
Tomorrow is not the day tobegin.
Today is the day to begin.
There's just enough going on.
If you've got your hat on andyour eyes forward, you can see

(17:47):
things are going.
Things are not going to change.
Things are changing right nowand it is your responsibility to
be your own first responder.
It is my responsibility to bemy own first responder Until
professional help gets there.
Absolutely, and I love ourfirst responders.

(18:08):
I am not in any way, shape orform, dogging them or throwing
shade on them.
I am saying that there is justnot enough help to go around.
Used to be 24 hours, 72 hours,your little backpack full of
granola bars.
Now, a month, you and yourfamily need to be prepared for

(18:31):
at least one month of help.
Self-sufficiency, food, water,medicine, defense, all of those
things.
So as a part of that, I amkicking off my bug-out bag
classes.
Bug-out bag without a plan isjust a backpack you take for a

(18:52):
walk.
Bug-out bags are the very, veryfirst step.
It's what you get to thinkingabout.
We start thinking, hmm, yeah,and it is a rabbit hole, it is a
lot of work.
A lot of people tell me oh well, yeah, I've got my bug out bag.
Look over there.
There, it is Lovely, isn't it?

(19:13):
What's in it?
What do you mean?
Is it a winter bag or a summerbag?
Huh, what's in the car tosupport it?
We need to plan and that's whatI want to talk about at these
courses I'm offering, I'm goingto be sharing them.
We have and I talked about thislast time building a bug out

(19:35):
bag in case you have to leaveyour home, about staying at home
in case you bunk in and have tohunker down in an emergency On
the road.
If you're in the car andsomething happens, what are you
going to do at work A worksituation, especially if you're
younger and you have children.
Your spouse is at one site.
I know most of my friends whenI was in that situation.

(19:57):
Both partners worked.
I know most of my friends whenI was in that situation both
partners worked.
Sometimes one stayed at home,one didn't, but very often today
, with the economy, folks areboth working and if you have
little ones, they're at daycareor childcare or school.
And now something happens anearthquake, a fire, an
insurrection, whatever it'sgoing to be.

(20:18):
You've got three very valuableparts of your family in three
different spots.
You need to rehearse it.
You need to think about ittoday.
What are you going to do if Iwork at this location.
You work at that location, theschool's over here.
What's the quickest wayespecially if there's

(20:39):
disruptions to get from point Ato point B?
If you're old enough to drive,it should be in your car.
Have a charged cell phone, acell phone charger Information.
What's my insurance number?
How do I reach my mom and dad?
Where's my meeting point?
Have a code word.
I cannot tell you theimportance.
When my son was at school, hewas actually approached by

(21:02):
somebody who said hey, my dadsent you, your dad sent me to
pick you up.
What's the code word?
Huh, what's the code word?
Well, this is serious stuff.
So when you have young ones,let's talk about how to prepare
them.
Make them a part of thediscussion, Make them a part of

(21:22):
the solution.
Everybody gets to carrysomething.
It makes you feel engaged.
So those are the type of thingswe're going to be talking about
in the classes.
I'm going to start offeringthose almost immediately.
I'll have a number up there andan email address and it is on
the website.
When you go to our website, itis there under the classes
listing.

(21:42):
It's at the very bottom of thepage and as part of those
classes, when you're planning,let's say you've decided.
I'm going to stay home, we'regoing to bunker down, we're
going to stay in the house.
We offer home defense how todefend your home.
Some people are not interestedin getting involved in firearms.
I respect that.
We have non-ballisticself-defense.

(22:03):
We talk about personalawareness, avoiding ways like
whistles and like pepper spray.
If you don't want to resort tofirearms.
If you do, using them safely,professionally and lawfully is
very, very important, even in adisaster.
So let's look at the bug-outbag classes and how those

(22:24):
classes connect to the otherthings that we offer, all the
way from basic pistol,non-ballistic, all the way up to
tactical and self-defensecourses.
One other thing Jackson CountyAlerts sent out a note yesterday
that they have been merged withJosephine County and now

(22:46):
recently split.
So if you're signed up forJackson County Alerts, go back
in and they'll ask you for apassword.
You have to kind of re-registerand reconfirm, and that's a
good thing.
Make sure they're not wastingtheir resources and that will
give you more localized coveragein an emergency.
If you have not used JacksonCounty Alerts, I recommend it.

(23:10):
It's part of the county'swebsite.
I'm going to put that link up.
You'll probably see it floatingover.
Yeah, probably over there,you'll see it over there, and
it's a good thing.
And the best part about it itfloating over.
Yeah, probably over there,you'll see it over there, and
it's a good thing.
And the best part about it it'sfree.
A reminder that classes, withthe days getting longer, classes
are going to start filling.

(23:30):
It's going to stop being coldand rainy, which if you have an
outdoor class.
There's really no such thing asbad weather, just poor choices
in clothing.
So now, with the weathergetting better, the days getting
longer, the classes are goingto start filling.
Get gift certificates, getsigned up for a class, even if

(23:52):
it's two months down the road.
Make sure you don't end up witha ooh, it's full at the last
minute.
And start talking to your familyabout prepping.
Have a good long talk with yoursignificant other.
I am blessed that I havesomeone who is equally as
intelligent and passionate aboutthis as I am.
I have seen some homes in whichone partner is very much for it

(24:15):
, the other partner thinks it'swasteful and silly, and those
are the ones you see on the TVnews looking pretty unhappy.
Okay, that's it for this time.
I'm going to remind you thatstarting small, something as
small as on your key ring or asmall flashlight or a really big

(24:36):
flashlight.
Look at what it's going to dofor you, look at the job it's
meant to do.
Look at what it can provide foryou.
So that's it for this time.
We'll have more next week andI'm looking forward to seeing
you out at the range at a classin the near future.
This is interesting.
I'm going to use a differentbackground every week.

(24:57):
If you have a suggestion, dropme a line.
Okay, be safe, take care.
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