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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Let's set the Wayback
Machine for March 17th 2019 and
review an episode and someideas which we haven't spent
enough time on.
Come on in, let's talk about it.
Hi everybody, I'm Bill Bateman,part of the team here at Refuse
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to be a Victim PersonalProtection Training, and this is
another episode of SurvivalBeyond the Bug Out Bag.
Now, I had an opportunity totalk to Phil Just sit down and
chew the fat and I always enjoydoing that because he's got a
lot of good observations andgood information.
And I always enjoy doing thatbecause he's got a lot of good
observations and goodinformation.
And we're talking about thisprogram.
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And he pointed out that youknow, we are not talking
literally about survival.
We're talking about preparation, and that's kind of what I do.
And he said there is thesurvival of, you know, foraging,
figuring out what plants youcan use for medicine, what
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plants and local flora and faunayou can use for food, and this
is like you might find in themilitary.
This is what you might find ona hiking project or a wilderness
experience project, that typeof thing.
So the idea is, let's go backand let's dig into that.
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Here on the program, you haveaccess to everything we've done
so go back to March 17th 2019.
That's season one, episode 21,and we talked about finding out
homeopathic things you could useto treat illnesses.
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Now we all know that certaintree bark is a precursor to what
we now use for aspirin.
We know there's a lot of goodhomeopathic products out there
and I'd like to urge you tore-listen to that episode.
In addition to that, I've comeup with some new links for
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classes and foraging and guideson what to eat.
Now, I have to admit I havebeen remiss on doing this,
primarily because it's a fairlyserious subject.
If you go wandering through theforest and decide you're going
to nosh down on some of thedifferent things growing there,
that can have a really bad, badoutcome if you don't know what
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you're doing.
So I want to be clear and bevery careful of what I recommend
, and to do that, I'm going toprovide you a lot of links today
on where you can go gethands-on training.
Now, a big part of this we're inthe southern Oregon area, and
even where we live is inland.
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We're off I-5, if you'refollowing along at home with
your Google Maps.
Inland.
We're off I-5, if you'refollowing along at home with
your Google Maps.
But there's a lot of goodthings at the shore.
You can eat at the beachMussels, clams, things like that
and there are things in theforest berries, things like that
and different game that can becaptured.
Bearing in mind that, in theevent of everybody and their
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brother is going to be out theretrying to catch the last
squirrels, let's keep in mind.
Let's go to the first link I'mgoing to share with you and
finding local foraging tours,groups and classes in your area.
Now, this is good for the UnitedStates, canada or the United
Kingdom and they've got everystate as well as continued
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information for our overseaslisteners, and I think that's a
very important thing.
Know your area, know the factthat here, where I live, we have
rivers, we have woods we callthem woods, but not so much for
the ocean, not a lot ofopportunities for seafood.
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So if you're in Alaska versusColorado, kansas versus Maine,
you're going to have a lot ofdifferent things to consider.
You also have to consider theclimate, have to consider the
climate.
Arizona is going to bedifferent in January than Alaska
or Maine.
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This site, when you go to it,will give you a list of links
all over the United States andas it mentions Canada and the
United Kingdom.
So that's a good start.
A Google search in your areawill turn up things and you're
going to have to make sure youget someone who is reputable,
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because, just like you don'twant me telling you here's what
you should be eating, because Idon't know Quite frankly, I do
not know.
The last time I did this stuffwas over 50 years ago in the
military, and I've kind of lostmy edge since.
Get good information fromsomeone you trust, someone who's
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got experience and got somebona fides.
Now I checked on the list forthe Oregon area and let's take a
look area and let's take a look.
There's a place has awilderness survival training
preparation program and that'sthe second link.
It's earthworks programs, wildedibles and medicinal plants.
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Now, this is interesting inthat they have different classes
, they have different leaders,depending upon what you're
talking about and it's by season.
What's happening in the summeris going to be a whole lot
different than what's happeningas we head into the colder
winter months.
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This is an ongoing idea for youto follow up on.
What can you eat?
Up on what can you eat?
Well, buds, flowers, leaves,pollen, rhizomes, seeds and
shoots.
How to cook, how to preserve,how to identify is the big thing
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, and it's something that issomething that's very important,
because if you are out in atrue crisis situation I'm
sitting here in my den, I'mrecording this.
If the X-Roman hits the airconditioning, I've got my stuff
I can grab.
If I've got three minutes, Ican get quite a bit out of the
house into the car and I'll beokay.
But if you're driving from planA to plan B or you're heading
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across country and somethinghappens, your car bag is only
going to last so long and thatshould be your last items to eat
.
Bear in mind, your emergencyfood is for just that
emergencies Gathering water inthe wild, gathering food,
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creating shelter.
Yes, you have your tarp withyou, don't you?
There's a lot more to do thandeal with that, especially if
we're heading into the wintermonths.
In Oregon, there can be snowand heavy rain involved.
So this is a good time as gooda time as any to look a little
deeper at the what-if scenario.
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Yes, you've got food in a bag.
Yes, you've got water in apouch or a can or a bottle, but
what else do you have?
I'm going to supply you nextwith something from Wild Food
Adventures.
They have postings for theirupcoming workshops for 2025.
Gifts you can get your fellowposters, your fellow composters
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or, I guess, fellow foragerswould be the thing to do.
And I will say, the more I readabout this, the more you get a
group together, the more youhave shared knowledge and shared
abilities.
This is a really good thing toget a group involved.
There's not only a lot of books, there's a lot of interesting
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ideas.
Now, a side note it has a thingfor acorn pancakes.
Now, sharing a little familyinformation, my wife and I like
to try out interesting things.
We actually did the acornpancakes.
Now, you need to understandthis is something, and I found
this from a survival or anemergency situation, really,
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really interesting.
We gathered a whole bunch ofacorns and we're going to make
some acorn flour to make theacorn pancakes.
Acorns, and we're going to makesome acorn flour to make the
acorn pancakes.
Okay, the first thing you haveto realize is you have to soak
the acorns for like a month toget the tannin out of them,
because they are bitter andinedible unless you do so.
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There's a lot of steps.
If you study the recipes in thebooks and it'll give you
details on how to do this, butthis is not something you can do
instantly.
This is something that takes along time.
To soak the acorns.
We did make the flour bygrinding the acorns and we did
make acorn pancakes.
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Now we soaked them for, I wantto say, 45 days, and this is
changing it out every day.
The water would turn dark.
It would get looking prettybitter, pretty smelly.
So we just kept rinsing them,putting in fresh water and
following the recipe.
After 45 days and freshlygrinding the acorn flour, the
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pancakes came up like prettymuch pancakes.
They were not that tasty.
They were still, in spite ofsome natural blueberry jam we
put on them, rather bitter.
So keep in mind, some of thisstuff is not going to be like
it's from a restaurant.
It was edible.
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We didn't get sick.
We managed to get enough tanninout, we didn't poison ourselves
.
We followed the recipe.
We had good advice.
But by golly you're not going tobe finding all this stuff is
really, really wonderful.
Now the other side of that is Imentioned we had a jam on it.
We collected blueberries andmade a very nice homemade
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blueberry jam.
That worked out quite well.
So I'm not poo-pooing this.
I am saying manage yourexpectations, especially when
you're looking at strong flavorsthings like nuts and some roots
than things that you may not befamiliar with.
And finally, I'm including alink to the Amazon search I did.
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I searched Amazon guide toedible plants in Oregon and
there are a land office supplyof books and directories
identifying wild edible foods.
The Practical Guide to SurvivalOregon plants, identifying and
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categorizing these are fairlyinexpensive.
We even have one guide that'slike $7.95.
The average price point ismid-15 to mid-20s and a couple
of the bigger books are going tobe around $30, $35.
A quick trip to Google is goingto help you find out what is
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going on with foraging classesin your area, and a lot of these
places have good, goodreferences.
I think that's very important.
As I said earlier, some ofthese people who are they?
Where do they operate from?
Mushrooms are a big thing.
Oh my gosh.
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That's something you've got tobe really, really careful of,
because mushrooms, as we know,can kill you Not in the sense of
you're going to get stoned andfall off the roof putting up
your Christmas decorations, butsome of these things can be
highly toxic.
So this is why I'm recommendingyou get things from you, get
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your information, you get yourforaging training from someone
who you know and who has acertifiable reputation.
But I am suggesting you do itbecause that is the missing
piece we have in our emergencyplanning training.
You got the stuff in the car,you got the stuff in the house,
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but if you're just kind ofdropped out there and having to
deal with something, you'regonna have to be able to get
through to hike back to the car.
For example, you get off theoff the path and you end up
eating up your granola bars andthe stuff you have in your
backpack.
Could you, are you able tosuccessfully forage for food?
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And I know a lot of people saywell, yeah, we'll just collect
something in the woods.
Well, it's not that easy.
Not that easy.
Now, I don't know if any of yourecall Ewell Gibbons, but he was
a early naturalist.
He did a thing that said yes,parts of pine trees are edible
and pine nuts, in fact, areavailable.
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If you have a cosigner and twocredit references, you can get
those to eat.
And he was the first naturalistand he caught a lot of grief.
There's a couple of comedianstalking about how his bit began
with yes, basketball courts areedible, and I think the favorite
was a takeoff.
I don't know if it was SaturdayNight Live, but you can find it
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on YouTube.
Yes, parts of the pine tree areedible, including the squirrel.
So keep in mind there has alwaysbeen a movement on foraging and
stop and think as you go back,even 50 years, it was not
uncommon for people to actuallylive on what they found.
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You had to be able to not onlystart a fire, you had to build a
temporary shelter if you needto.
But if you got a squirrel,would you know how to cook it?
Would you know if the squirrelwas fit to eat, if it was a
healthy squirrel, if the meatwas good?
A rabbit?
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The same thing.
Yeah, I'm going to get a rabbit.
Okay, does it have rabies?
Does it have a virus?
Is it something you can eat?
Do you know how to cook it anddo you know how to not attract
every other animal in the forestwith your cooking and foraging
process?
And, by the way, what kind ofspices are you carrying with it
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to put on your rabbit or yoursquirrel?
This is short term.
This is something you're goingto have to think about that fits
your lifestyle.
Bear in mind I'm an older guy,so me running through the forest
with a snare and trying tobring down something is a lot
less likely than some of youyounger people, less likely than
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some of you younger peopleLooking at where I am looking at
where you are looking at thehealth of the animals in your
community.
This is something you can findout through nature programs,
through your local university,through some good classes or
contacts with the rangers in thearea.
There's a number of resourcesand I think it's really, really
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good to know your community.
And this is if you're inGermany, this is if you're in
the Slovakian Republic, this isif you're Chicago, michigan, it
doesn't matter.
Everything's going to bedifferent.
So one size does not fit all.
Know what you're hunting for,know what's edible and what's
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not edible in your area, andknow how to process it, how to
collect it, how to keep it.
Things can spoil quickly.
So even if you did get luckyand get a squirrel and were able
to eat it, how long will thatmeat stay good?
These are questions you need tobe able to figure out.
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So that's my reminder.
Go on back and listen to thatearlier podcast about the
medicine woman.
She is no longer working withthe company, but she had a very,
very excellent set ofinformation and skills to share
with us.
And even checking around atyour drugstore, there are
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sections on homeopathic remediesand things you can get.
They don't need a prescriptionbut they can be useful.
So when you're looking at theforaging skills information,
let's look at that as a goodholiday gift idea.
And while we're on the subjectof holiday gifts, let's remind
ourselves that gift certificatesfor all of our classes are, of
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course, available.
You can purchase any class weoffer.
You purchase the certificate.
You do still have to schedulethe date.
You can't just show up andspring it like a theater ticket,
but you do have a seat in theclass, schedule that class and
you're ready to go.
And we're finding that ournon-ballistic self-defense class
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, as well as our basic pistolclass, is very, very popular and
I think I read this in amagazine, so it's not mine
originally but buying a gundoesn't make you an effective
shooter, any more than buying aguitar makes you a guitar player
.
Too many people will purchase agun, take it home, put it in the
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drawer for an emergency.
Well, the first emergency isyou taking it home and sticking
it in the drawer, not doinganything with it.
Because with part of that gunpurchase it's not only
ammunition, a holster, a properlockbox and storage facility,
but part of that purchase you'remaking is training.
You want to be safe.
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You want to be ensuring you'redoing things correctly, lawfully
, with your firearm, knowingwhen to shoot, how to avoid
problems so you don't have toshoot.
That's your best defense,staying out of a situation which
you have to pull your gun tobegin with.
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Television has spoiled usthinking that the answer is to
pull out a firearm and startblasting.
It's not.
That's your last recourse,that's your last step.
If you can't avoid, if youcan't evade, if you can't escape
, then you have to defend, andthere are rules to that, there
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are techniques and that's whatwe're all about Safety, safety,
safety.
And what's that last one?
Oh, safety.
That's what we're all about.
It refused to be a victim ofpersonal protection.
That's why you find our staff.
When you look at Phil CJ andmyself, we have a combined
experience level of like 50years behind the gun, knowing
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what we're doing.
We have a total of 12certifications in the various
NRA-rated disciplines, so thisis not just about getting you a
piece of paper and now you cancarry a gun.
No, this is about doing itlawfully, safely and
successfully, so that if youever God forbid have to start
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firing, you're doing it in amanner that is safe and you're
not going to be hitting innocentpeople.
So, with that said, stop intothe website there's a section on
gift certificates or give us acall If you've got a specific
class or series of classes.
It's a good time to get aseries of classes.
By the way, oh, my goodness.
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Yes, the Intro to Pistol, theBasic Pistol Study, followed up
by a Concealed Carry Class,followed by Concealed Carry
Mastery, concealed Carry classfollowed by Concealed Carry
Mastery.
That's just one of the tracksyou can take to ensure you're
doing things in a safe andlawful manner.
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With that said, I hope you allhad an opportunity.
I'm recording this on electionday.
I know I got my ballot in early.
I hope you have all had anopportunity to vote today and
make your voices heard.
With that said, I'll say besafe.
We look forward to seeing youat the range and, if not, hey,
maybe you can come on out for aclass.
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Either way, keep your head on aswivel.
We'll see you next week.
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