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The thirteenth Amendment to the United StatesConstitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude except as
a punishment for a crime. Everwondered how we ended up with the largest
prison population of any country. Haveyou noticed that those whose jobs it is
to protect and serve seem to bedemanding more and more blind obedient. You
didn't think it just happened by chance, did you. It's time to call
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attention to the fact our government asthe most prolific slave owner on the planet.
This is surviving the system. Thankyou for joining me today on surviving
the system. This is dance andDave, and excuse me forgive me.
I am still getting over this damncough. I don't know where it came
from, but it just will notgo away. So bear with me.
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If I have random coughing fits throughthe show, I will do my best
to mute them, but I'm notgoing to be able to catch all of
them. So tonight, you know, we're going to get into it.
I really wanted to take a deepdive into more specifics of what it's you
know, what it's really like withreentry and just having a record and talk
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about some of the circumstances that itcontinuously pops up in, so we'll get
into it in a lot more detail. I'm going to go through it very
specifically before we do just a coupleof quick housekeeping items. Don't forget to
check out the website Surviving the Systemdot org. I have an archive of
all the shows on there if you'dlike to listen through your desktop or your
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laptop. Otherwise, you can catchthe show anywhere you listen to podcasts.
I am on social media on Facebookdot com slash Surviving the System and on
Twitter at sts the podcast. I'dlove to hear from everybody if you have
a story that you feel needs tobe told, if you've had an encounter
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with the system or a loved oneand you've gone through it with them,
I'd love to hear your story.Shoot me a message on the website,
social media, you can reach methrough the fringe wherever you need to.
I'd just love to speak with youand see what we can do to get
that story out for you. Andas always, before we get going,
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we will go ahead and have ourquick moment of gratitude, just just in
case anybody hasn't heard before, orif you need that reminder, I always
start the show very quickly with thatmoment of gratitude, just because gratitude is
the most empowering emotion. It isthe most powerful emotion you can have,
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and starting your day with gratitude willcompletely change your entire mindset. So to
make sure that we're going to keepthe vibration high, keep the frequency high
here on this show, we startwith gratitude here as well. If it
works to start your day, it'llwork just as well to start the show.
So as always, I want tojust say that I am so grateful
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to be here with you, livingout my purpose to help to remind you
of who you really are and whatyou are truly capable of, regardless of
your circumstances. So not just formyself, but I've seen this coming up
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quite a bit for people recently whohave a record, and no matter how
long they're out, it just seemslike it always pops back up for one
reason or another. It doesn't matterat all. It could be twenty years
twenty years later and you could stillbe paying the price. Now, I
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myself, I've talked a little bitabout some of the challenges that I've had
with it, especially lately it isreared its ugly head again. And that's
okay, And it's not like Iwasn't prepared for it. It happens,
doesn't change who I am, doesn'tchange what I'm capable of. I can't
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control what other people think and feeland do. But we're gonna go through
and I'm going to talk specifically aboutthe rights that individuals lose with a felony
conviction on their record. Now,I think it's important, first of all
to understand the definition of what aright is. And I've got a couple
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of definitions that have popped up here, but I think the one that's most
profound and the one that just nailsit perfectly, is the legal definition.
Funny enough, according to Black's LawDictionary, a definition of human rights.
This is human rights. These arerights that you, as a human have.
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They are the freedoms, immunities,and benefits that, according to modern
values quote in parentheses and an internationallevel, especially on parentheses, all human
beings should be able to claim asa matter of right in the society in
which they live. Now, ifI'm reading that correctly, that's pretty much
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just saying that these are things thatI should have because of my society.
If I live in society, Ishould have these things now. Also,
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just even the basic basic Mirriam Websterdefinition Dictionary definition, a moral or legal
entitlement to have or obtain something,or to act in a certain way.
So the moral or legal entitlement tohave or obtain something. So rights are,
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depending on your definition, something thatyou are entitled to one way or
the other. So how can youlose something you're entitled to. I don't
have the answer for that here.Ippose that as a rhetorical question because I
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think we as a society need tostop and really turn the focus inward on
ourselves as individuals and as a collective, because what are we really trying to
accomplish with the penal system that wehave? What are we trying to accomplish
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with the quote unquote justice system thatwe have? Are we trying to use
it to make people better and totry to correct the error of their ways?
Or are we just the ways waitingfor someone to pick up, to
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mess up and pounce on them witheverything we got. You know, I
used to wait a job like thatis absolutely miserable, absolutely miserable. It
was I could go an entire twelvemonths, an entire twelve months without having
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any issues whatsoever at my job.I could accomplish goals, I could win
awards, I could get recognition forpeople on my team. Show up every
day, never late, never aproblem. In the one day out of
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three hundred and sixty five days youmake a mistake, that's the one that's
going to show up on your annualreview, which, funny enough, affects
your raise and your year end bonusthat one time once. Man, let
me tell you what the pressure thatI felt there was immense, because that's
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the kind of pressure that says youdon't get the chance to screw up.
If you mess up, you're done. You never have that opportunity to mess
up, no chance to learn fromyour mistakes, no chance to get some
feedback on how you could do betterthan next time. Mistake, you're done.
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And it seems like that's what that'swhat we as a society have become.
So we'll get into it a littlebit more. Here it is getting
close to the bottom of the hour. We will take a quick break and
be right back and get into morespecifics. Stay tune and we're back.
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We are going to pick right backup where we left off, and I'm
going to run down according to andthis is according to a few different research
sites, some different organizations, legalorganizations that are discussing the rights that you
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lose with the felony conviction, andof course it has some steps on how
to get them back, but Idon't want to go into all of that
because that is a giant mess totry to untangle. But we're gonna go
down the list and cover some ofthe main ones. Now, the funny
thing is this doesn't cover everything.These are I guess I would call them
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the intentional rights that are lost,Like it's the intention that you lose these,
and then after that you've got awhole host of unintentional things that you
lose on top of that, whetherthrough design or through happy accident, whatever
you want to call it. Thelist is pretty large, but I'm just
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going to go through the intentional ones. So first and foremost, and I'll
just read down the list. Firstis voting, traveling abroad, the right
to bear arms or own guns,jury service, employment in certain fields,
public social benefits, and housing andparental benefits. Now, these are all
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of the rights that you lose.Now, I don't understand why. Some
of these just absolutely don't make anysense on the surface. If you dig
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into it a little bit more,and if I hate to use the term
because it has such a negative connotationwith it, but if you have your
conspiratorial mindset turned on, it makesa lot more sense. So let's start,
first of all with voting rights.Why would you lose your voting rights?
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Like, what exactly is the purposefor that? And the length of
how long you lose that is dependenton the state that you live in.
Sometimes it's forever, sometimes it's justfor a little bit, Like here in
Nebraska, you get them back twoyears after you've been out. There's some
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places in the world where you canactually still vote while you're inside though you
don't ever lose that right, butnot here. I don't understand why until
I sat there and I thought,you know, once you've been through the
system and you see behind the curtain, so to speak, you get a
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little bit better of a picture.And I look at it this way.
If every judge that convicted someone ofa felony or to have those same people
come back and vote, do youthink they'd be voting for that judge or
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would that be, would they bevoting to kick that son of a bitch
out? I'm guessing the latter,So personally, I believe because I honestly
can't see any other logical reason forit. Logical reason then to protect the
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system itself. Traveling abroad? Whywhy traveling abroad? There's a list of
countries that you can't go to,Canada being one of them. I've been
to Canada previously, a long timeago, but I can't go back.
Why what exactly is the purpose forthat? Why can't I go and travel
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to another country? Now? Youcan travel to certain destinations. You can
still, of course, travel withinthe state unless you have restrictions put on
you. You can take vacations,you can take cruises to certain points.
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You know, if I was totake a cruise like an Alaskan cruise,
I could go up that way,but I couldn't get off at a port
in Canada. I'd be stuck onthe ship. I don't understand why,
other than we're just punishing you evenmore, and like, well, you
paid your debt to society, goodluck get back out there. Oh and
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by the way, you can't goanywhere. Oh and you can't vote either
you get no more say in anybodythat's representing you in this constitutional republic,
representative government. You have no morerepresentation. Good luck. Still got to
follow those rules though. The rightto bear arms or own guns, now,
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this one. If there was evera more blatant gun grab by this
system than this, I don't knowwhat it is. Everybody talks about how
they're trying to repeal the Second Amendment. Repeal the Second Amendment, it's no,
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no, no, no. Allthey gotta do is convict you,
and that's their loophole. If youget convicted of us, if you get
convicted of a felony, they don'thave to worry about the Second Amendment because
the Second Amendment no longer applies toyou. That's their loophole. They have
a workaround already built into the system. They don't have to come for your
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guns. All they have to dois convict you and then you can't have
them, and if you do,they'll put you back in again. It's
kind of a win win for them. And just stop and think with all
of the stories I've talked about themhere recently in the past few months,
but just watch the news, allthe stories of abuse and misuse of authority
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and power by the police force inour country today, local police, state
police, county police. You woulddamn well want to have some way to
protect yourself, and especially if you'vebeen through it. Man, if you've
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been through it and you see howthey operate, you know you need to
protect yourself from them. So they'vegot that nice little safety measure built in
where. Oh and by the way, you can't protect yourself from us anymore.
We're gonna come back and do whateverthey all we want to do with
you, and there's nothing you cando about it. And this applies to
things like, oh, tasers.Everybody thinks guns, but no, there's
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a whole list of the knives can'thave technically knives of a certain like a
sword, a decorative sword that youget at like a Renaissance festival. Nope,
you can't have that either. Itjust just a list. I think.
One of the only things you canhave is like a bow and arrow,
but it's got to be for hunting. Now, that could be different
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from state to state. That's justin Nebraska, But seriously, what is
it? What does it matter?Next? One, employment rights, employment
in certain fields, Employment in certainfields now here's where I'm going to have
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to disagree with this. We talkabout the indirect and the direct punishments.
According to this website, which isthe law dictionary dot org, there are
specific jobs that you are just notable to have, period. And it
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seems like public positions, employment withthe armed forces, law enforcement, teachers,
childcare, and then the catch allas many other jobs that require a
professional license. So that would bethings like if you committed some type of
financial fraud, you would not beable to get a securities license, which
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I guess kind of makes sense.It's like, hey, if you've already
been convicted of financial abuse, we'renot going to give you a license to
do it again. I can sortof understand that to an extent. Again,
there has to be some kind ofway to get yourself out of this.
There has to be some kind ofredress where you hit a certain point
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and you can say, look,I'm not that person anymore. I'm not
going to do that. Can Iplease go about my life? But the
funny thing is this just continues tobroaden to just about any job out there
period. Now. The tide isshifting slowly in this country at this time,
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and more and more employers and corporationsare realizing that they have to open
their doors to people with records,not just for the pr although I'm sure
a lot of it has to dowith that, But just think of the
worker shortage right now. There's nota worker shortage in this country. These
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companies are suffering because of their biases, because of their judgments. You get
a company out there that's complaining,Oh, we can't find anybody. We've
got all these open positions. Hey, do you guys discriminate against people with
a felony? Yeah, we don'twant to hire then they're too big of
a risk. Okay, So you'reknowingly then choosing to not fill your positions
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because do you have any idea howmany people are out there looking for work
that have felonies on their record.But they don't matter, do they?
And there's so much more to this. This is a rabbit hole that we
can go down forever. One ofthe things that stops people from getting jobs
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is the insurance industry. And I'mnot talking about getting a job in the
insurance industry. I'm talking about theinsurance industry causing you to get a job
from a completely unrelated organization. Orindustry, And it very simply comes down
to I had it happened to me. I've heard it happen to other people
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too firsthand. Account. Hey,you know, if it was up to
me, I'd give you this job. You're highly qualified, you'd be great
at it, but my insurance won'tcover you. Okay, So there we
go. So who owns your business? Here? Do you own your business?
Who's telling you how to run yourbusiness? Now? Is it you?
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Or is it the people with themoney, because it kind of sounds
like it's the people with the money. Jury Duty, this one is my
pet peeve because this goes all theway back up to the top when I
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talked about voting. I mean,let me, let me tell you what
I have seen the shadiest, absolutemost underhanded tactics used not just against myself,
but against just about everybody that's evercome through a courtroom, everybody that
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has ever gone through a courtroom.You have to be able to recognize that
it doesn't make logical sense how thisall operates. Let's think about things like
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double jeopardy. So if I goto trial for something and I get off,
and then they find out the nextday I did it, I could,
I could walk in to the courthouseand say, hey, by the
way, everybody, thanks thanks forfinding me not guilty as we want to
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let you know, I totally didit. I absolutely absolutely murdered that person.
But thank you all for believing mylies. I'm out. Yeah,
they can't do anything about that.How much sense does that actually make?
Or how about things like if youhave a confession from someone else completely uninvolved
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with the case, a confession wheresomebody else says, no, I did
I did that. I absolutely didthat, but it gets thrown out because
they didn't use the right kind ofa staple in the paperwork, or they
put the staple on the left handinstead of on the right hand. And
I'm only being halfway so sarcastic withthat, because that's the kind of that's
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the kind of stuff that they usedto get evidence thrown out in courts.
It makes no logical sense whatsoever.And believe me when I tell you,
it never goes in your benefit.So let me tell you what if I
got on the stand, if Iwas in there, if I was in
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the juror's box, and if Iwas overseeing the fate of someone else,
I'd be calling them out on theirbs. I'd go I'd go back into
that deliberation and I'd be like,no, I'm not I'm not giving them
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anything. Can have a look atall the evidence. No, I'm just
I'm just not doing it because Iknow how they can fabricate evidence. I
know how they lie, I knowhow they can bully witnesses. I know
how they can coerce, they cancoerce statements, how they can coerce confessions,
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and on and on and on.I'm just not buying it. I
would absolutely be the cog in thewheel. They don't want me in that
jury box because I've seen behind thecurtain. I know how it works.
They don't want me in that roomwith eleven other people sitting there saying,
look, let me explain to youwhat's going on here. Here's what they're
not telling you about this particular situationhere. If you're running the greatest con
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job in the world, you don'twant somebody coming in blowing all your secrets.
That's the only logical reason that Ican see for it, Because what
does that have to do with anythinganything, What does jury duty have to
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do with having a conviction other thanthe fact that you, you will empathize
with the defendant because you've been throughit. There's no other logical explanation for
it. And then next to lastis your public social benefits and housing.
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I mean, come on, publicsocial benefits and housing. So basically what
this says is you're not allowed toget state or federal grants, live in
public housing, receive federal cash assistance, no Social Security income, to food
stamps, all kinds of different things. Now this varies from state to state,
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and fortunately it's easing up a bit. Like here in Nebraska, you
can get things like food stamps,you can get SSI, you can't get
some assistance, not much. Buthow housing? Why would you not want
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to help somebody with a place tolive when, first of all, homelessness
is already rampant in our country,we just ignore it and never talk about
it. And second, housing isthe number one barrier to re entry,
to successful reentry. So you're gonnatell me, you're gonna let somebody go
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at the end of their sentence,they've done their time, they've paid their
debt to society. They walk outthe door, and that person goes,
well, hey, can you helpme with a place to live? And
you go nope and slam the doorright behind them. In what scenario,
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in what universe is that not psychopathicand sociopathic? Knowingly sending someone out with
no shelter and in some cases noaccess to food. You're not gonna help
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them, Why would I help you? You piece of crap, get out
of here. And then lastly,child custody. Now this is a This
one is a big, big webto try to untangle. The conviction can
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be used obviously to get your childrentaken away from you just by rights of
having a conviction. Whether it relatesto your children at all, has nothing
to do with that, not athing. And if you're stuck inside like
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here in Nebrass, if you're stuckinside of a prison, you still have
to pay child support. Going beforethe court and saying I don't have any
money. I'm in prison, Idon't have a job that pays me much
more than like twenty bucks a month. So where am I supposed to get
this money? And so what theydo, in the out of the kindness
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of their hearts is they drop itdown to fifty dollars a month and then
just let the tab run until youget out. And then you gotta pay
at all. Thanks. I guessso you're sending me out nowhere to live,
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no access to food, a giantchild support bill that's already been racked
up for children that I can't evensee because you took them away from me.
And we expect that person to dobetter. We expect that person to
turn their life around and follow thepath of truth and justice. I want
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you to just stop for a minute, and if you're in a spot where
you can do this, just closeyour eyes and I want you to imagine
this. Imagine the person the firstperson that comes to mind the most,
the person that you're the closest with. Maybe it's a parent, maybe it's
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a child, a sibling, afriend, a coworker. Just picture them
in your head. Now, imaginethem coming and asking you for help and
saying, man, I really messedup. I really messed up. I
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need your help to get back onthe right track. What's your first instinct?
What first comes to mind? Isyour first thought to say, yeah,
man, what do you need?How can I help? And if
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it was, congratulations, you're adecent human being. But if your first
thought is no, f off,get off my lawn and flip them the
bird while they're walking away. Youmay have some issues, seek help,
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and apparently, I guess run foroffice. I don't know. Just take
that example, now, magnify thatto a macro scale. That's what we're
doing to the other people in ourcountry. And let's even go more macro
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than that. Remember, everything inthis universe is made of energy, and
that energy all comes from the samesource. You can call it God,
you can call it the creative field, you can call it the zero point,
if you can call it whatever youwant. We all come from the
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same source. Energy is never createdor destroyed. It just transfers states.
It goes from one state of matterto the other. What that actually means
in the grand scheme of this universeis that we are all connected. We
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all come from the same energy source. We're all made of the same energy.
We are all connected. So whatwe do to one of us,
we do to all of us.Now, is that how you would want
to be treated? Is that howyou would treat yourself if you needed help.
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Is that how you would treat yourfriend or family member? Now,
the good news is a lot ofthese rights can be restored. It's a
massive pain in the ass process,and that's a topic for another day.
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On the constructive side of things,though, don't ever give up fighting for
those rights, because you can getthem back one way or another. You
can get them back. If youhave found value in tonight's show, I
would love if you would take theopportunity to share the show with your community.
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Let somebody else know. Let somebodyknow about this story. Maybe there's
somebody out there that you know let'sgoing through this struggle. Tell them to
listen. I'd love to have atalk with them. I'd love to hear
their story. Don't forget the websiteSurviving This System dot org, Facebook dot
com, slash Surviving the System andon Twitter at STS the podcast. I
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keep the dms open on both ofthose. I love to hear from everybody.
That contact us page on my websitecomes right to me. I get
those pretty quickly, So thank youall for your time. I appreciate it,
and as always, don't forget,keep your head up, don't let
them get you. It may beeasy to look at all the corruption and
manipulation in the system and feel hopeless. Here at Surviving the System, we
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hold to the belief that greatness isborn in the midst of extraordinary struggles.
You were created with a purpose,with infinite potential, and many have lost
sight of that fact. We're hereto remind you of who you are.
The best revenge excess
The thirteenth Amendment to the United StatesConstitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude except as
a punishment for a crime. Everwondered how we ended up with the largest
prison population of any country. Haveyou noticed that those whose jobs it is
to protect and serve seem to bedemanding more and more blind obedient. You
didn't think it just happened by chance, did you. It's time to call
(00:23):
attention to the fact our government asthe most prolific slave owner on the planet.
This is surviving the system. Thankyou for joining me today on surviving
the system. This is dance andDave, and excuse me forgive me.
I am still getting over this damncough. I don't know where it came
from, but it just will notgo away. So bear with me.
(00:43):
If I have random coughing fits throughthe show, I will do my best
to mute them, but I'm notgoing to be able to catch all of
them. So tonight, you know, we're going to get into it.
I really wanted to take a deepdive into more specifics of what it's you
know, what it's really like withreentry and just having a record and talk
(01:10):
about some of the circumstances that itcontinuously pops up in, so we'll get
into it in a lot more detail. I'm going to go through it very
specifically before we do just a coupleof quick housekeeping items. Don't forget to
check out the website Surviving the Systemdot org. I have an archive of
all the shows on there if you'dlike to listen through your desktop or your
(01:33):
laptop. Otherwise, you can catchthe show anywhere you listen to podcasts.
I am on social media on Facebookdot com slash Surviving the System and on
Twitter at sts the podcast. I'dlove to hear from everybody if you have
a story that you feel needs tobe told, if you've had an encounter
(01:55):
with the system or a loved oneand you've gone through it with them,
I'd love to hear your story.Shoot me a message on the website,
social media, you can reach methrough the fringe wherever you need to.
I'd just love to speak with youand see what we can do to get
that story out for you. Andas always, before we get going,
(02:15):
we will go ahead and have ourquick moment of gratitude, just just in
case anybody hasn't heard before, orif you need that reminder, I always
start the show very quickly with thatmoment of gratitude, just because gratitude is
the most empowering emotion. It isthe most powerful emotion you can have,
(02:35):
and starting your day with gratitude willcompletely change your entire mindset. So to
make sure that we're going to keepthe vibration high, keep the frequency high
here on this show, we startwith gratitude here as well. If it
works to start your day, it'llwork just as well to start the show.
So as always, I want tojust say that I am so grateful
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to be here with you, livingout my purpose to help to remind you
of who you really are and whatyou are truly capable of, regardless of
your circumstances. So not just formyself, but I've seen this coming up
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quite a bit for people recently whohave a record, and no matter how
long they're out, it just seemslike it always pops back up for one
reason or another. It doesn't matterat all. It could be twenty years
twenty years later and you could stillbe paying the price. Now, I
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myself, I've talked a little bitabout some of the challenges that I've had
with it, especially lately it isreared its ugly head again. And that's
okay, And it's not like Iwasn't prepared for it. It happens,
doesn't change who I am, doesn'tchange what I'm capable of. I can't
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control what other people think and feeland do. But we're gonna go through
and I'm going to talk specifically aboutthe rights that individuals lose with a felony
conviction on their record. Now,I think it's important, first of all
to understand the definition of what aright is. And I've got a couple
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of definitions that have popped up here, but I think the one that's most
profound and the one that just nailsit perfectly, is the legal definition.
Funny enough, according to Black's LawDictionary, a definition of human rights.
This is human rights. These arerights that you, as a human have.
(05:08):
They are the freedoms, immunities,and benefits that, according to modern
values quote in parentheses and an internationallevel, especially on parentheses, all human
beings should be able to claim asa matter of right in the society in
which they live. Now, ifI'm reading that correctly, that's pretty much
(05:30):
just saying that these are things thatI should have because of my society.
If I live in society, Ishould have these things now. Also,
(05:50):
just even the basic basic Mirriam Websterdefinition Dictionary definition, a moral or legal
entitlement to have or obtain something,or to act in a certain way.
So the moral or legal entitlement tohave or obtain something. So rights are,
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depending on your definition, something thatyou are entitled to one way or
the other. So how can youlose something you're entitled to. I don't
have the answer for that here.Ippose that as a rhetorical question because I
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think we as a society need tostop and really turn the focus inward on
ourselves as individuals and as a collective, because what are we really trying to
accomplish with the penal system that wehave? What are we trying to accomplish
(06:57):
with the quote unquote justice system thatwe have? Are we trying to use
it to make people better and totry to correct the error of their ways?
Or are we just the ways waitingfor someone to pick up, to
(07:20):
mess up and pounce on them witheverything we got. You know, I
used to wait a job like thatis absolutely miserable, absolutely miserable. It
was I could go an entire twelvemonths, an entire twelve months without having
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any issues whatsoever at my job.I could accomplish goals, I could win
awards, I could get recognition forpeople on my team. Show up every
day, never late, never aproblem. In the one day out of
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three hundred and sixty five days youmake a mistake, that's the one that's
going to show up on your annualreview, which, funny enough, affects
your raise and your year end bonusthat one time once. Man, let
me tell you what the pressure thatI felt there was immense, because that's
(08:26):
the kind of pressure that says youdon't get the chance to screw up.
If you mess up, you're done. You never have that opportunity to mess
up, no chance to learn fromyour mistakes, no chance to get some
feedback on how you could do betterthan next time. Mistake, you're done.
(08:48):
And it seems like that's what that'swhat we as a society have become.
So we'll get into it a littlebit more. Here it is getting
close to the bottom of the hour. We will take a quick break and
be right back and get into morespecifics. Stay tune and we're back.
(09:18):
We are going to pick right backup where we left off, and I'm
going to run down according to andthis is according to a few different research
sites, some different organizations, legalorganizations that are discussing the rights that you
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lose with the felony conviction, andof course it has some steps on how
to get them back, but Idon't want to go into all of that
because that is a giant mess totry to untangle. But we're gonna go
down the list and cover some ofthe main ones. Now, the funny
thing is this doesn't cover everything.These are I guess I would call them
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the intentional rights that are lost,Like it's the intention that you lose these,
and then after that you've got awhole host of unintentional things that you
lose on top of that, whetherthrough design or through happy accident, whatever
you want to call it. Thelist is pretty large, but I'm just
(10:26):
going to go through the intentional ones. So first and foremost, and I'll
just read down the list. Firstis voting, traveling abroad, the right
to bear arms or own guns,jury service, employment in certain fields,
public social benefits, and housing andparental benefits. Now, these are all
(10:52):
of the rights that you lose.Now, I don't understand why. Some
of these just absolutely don't make anysense on the surface. If you dig
(11:13):
into it a little bit more,and if I hate to use the term
because it has such a negative connotationwith it, but if you have your
conspiratorial mindset turned on, it makesa lot more sense. So let's start,
first of all with voting rights.Why would you lose your voting rights?
(11:37):
Like, what exactly is the purposefor that? And the length of
how long you lose that is dependenton the state that you live in.
Sometimes it's forever, sometimes it's justfor a little bit, Like here in
Nebraska, you get them back twoyears after you've been out. There's some
(11:58):
places in the world where you canactually still vote while you're inside though you
don't ever lose that right, butnot here. I don't understand why until
I sat there and I thought,you know, once you've been through the
system and you see behind the curtain, so to speak, you get a
(12:24):
little bit better of a picture.And I look at it this way.
If every judge that convicted someone ofa felony or to have those same people
come back and vote, do youthink they'd be voting for that judge or
(12:48):
would that be, would they bevoting to kick that son of a bitch
out? I'm guessing the latter,So personally, I believe because I honestly
can't see any other logical reason forit. Logical reason then to protect the
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system itself. Traveling abroad? Whywhy traveling abroad? There's a list of
countries that you can't go to,Canada being one of them. I've been
to Canada previously, a long timeago, but I can't go back.
Why what exactly is the purpose forthat? Why can't I go and travel
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to another country? Now? Youcan travel to certain destinations. You can
still, of course, travel withinthe state unless you have restrictions put on
you. You can take vacations,you can take cruises to certain points.
(13:56):
You know, if I was totake a cruise like an Alaskan cruise,
I could go up that way,but I couldn't get off at a port
in Canada. I'd be stuck onthe ship. I don't understand why,
other than we're just punishing you evenmore, and like, well, you
paid your debt to society, goodluck get back out there. Oh and
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by the way, you can't goanywhere. Oh and you can't vote either
you get no more say in anybodythat's representing you in this constitutional republic,
representative government. You have no morerepresentation. Good luck. Still got to
follow those rules though. The rightto bear arms or own guns, now,
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this one. If there was evera more blatant gun grab by this
system than this, I don't knowwhat it is. Everybody talks about how
they're trying to repeal the Second Amendment. Repeal the Second Amendment, it's no,
(15:00):
no, no, no. Allthey gotta do is convict you,
and that's their loophole. If youget convicted of us, if you get
convicted of a felony, they don'thave to worry about the Second Amendment because
the Second Amendment no longer applies toyou. That's their loophole. They have
a workaround already built into the system. They don't have to come for your
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guns. All they have to dois convict you and then you can't have
them, and if you do,they'll put you back in again. It's
kind of a win win for them. And just stop and think with all
of the stories I've talked about themhere recently in the past few months,
but just watch the news, allthe stories of abuse and misuse of authority
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and power by the police force inour country today, local police, state
police, county police. You woulddamn well want to have some way to
protect yourself, and especially if you'vebeen through it. Man, if you've
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been through it and you see howthey operate, you know you need to
protect yourself from them. So they'vegot that nice little safety measure built in
where. Oh and by the way, you can't protect yourself from us anymore.
We're gonna come back and do whateverthey all we want to do with
you, and there's nothing you cando about it. And this applies to
things like, oh, tasers.Everybody thinks guns, but no, there's
(16:36):
a whole list of the knives can'thave technically knives of a certain like a
sword, a decorative sword that youget at like a Renaissance festival. Nope,
you can't have that either. Itjust just a list. I think.
One of the only things you canhave is like a bow and arrow,
but it's got to be for hunting. Now, that could be different
(16:57):
from state to state. That's justin Nebraska, But seriously, what is
it? What does it matter?Next? One, employment rights, employment
in certain fields, Employment in certainfields now here's where I'm going to have
(17:18):
to disagree with this. We talkabout the indirect and the direct punishments.
According to this website, which isthe law dictionary dot org, there are
specific jobs that you are just notable to have, period. And it
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seems like public positions, employment withthe armed forces, law enforcement, teachers,
childcare, and then the catch allas many other jobs that require a
professional license. So that would bethings like if you committed some type of
financial fraud, you would not beable to get a securities license, which
(17:59):
I guess kind of makes sense.It's like, hey, if you've already
been convicted of financial abuse, we'renot going to give you a license to
do it again. I can sortof understand that to an extent. Again,
there has to be some kind ofway to get yourself out of this.
There has to be some kind ofredress where you hit a certain point
(18:21):
and you can say, look,I'm not that person anymore. I'm not
going to do that. Can Iplease go about my life? But the
funny thing is this just continues tobroaden to just about any job out there
period. Now. The tide isshifting slowly in this country at this time,
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and more and more employers and corporationsare realizing that they have to open
their doors to people with records,not just for the pr although I'm sure
a lot of it has to dowith that, But just think of the
worker shortage right now. There's nota worker shortage in this country. These
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companies are suffering because of their biases, because of their judgments. You get
a company out there that's complaining,Oh, we can't find anybody. We've
got all these open positions. Hey, do you guys discriminate against people with
a felony? Yeah, we don'twant to hire then they're too big of
a risk. Okay, So you'reknowingly then choosing to not fill your positions
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because do you have any idea howmany people are out there looking for work
that have felonies on their record.But they don't matter, do they?
And there's so much more to this. This is a rabbit hole that we
can go down forever. One ofthe things that stops people from getting jobs
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is the insurance industry. And I'mnot talking about getting a job in the
insurance industry. I'm talking about theinsurance industry causing you to get a job
from a completely unrelated organization. Orindustry, And it very simply comes down
to I had it happened to me. I've heard it happen to other people
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too firsthand. Account. Hey,you know, if it was up to
me, I'd give you this job. You're highly qualified, you'd be great
at it, but my insurance won'tcover you. Okay, So there we
go. So who owns your business? Here? Do you own your business?
Who's telling you how to run yourbusiness? Now? Is it you?
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Or is it the people with themoney, because it kind of sounds
like it's the people with the money. Jury Duty, this one is my
pet peeve because this goes all theway back up to the top when I
(20:57):
talked about voting. I mean,let me, let me tell you what
I have seen the shadiest, absolutemost underhanded tactics used not just against myself,
but against just about everybody that's evercome through a courtroom, everybody that
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has ever gone through a courtroom.You have to be able to recognize that
it doesn't make logical sense how thisall operates. Let's think about things like
(21:49):
double jeopardy. So if I goto trial for something and I get off,
and then they find out the nextday I did it, I could,
I could walk in to the courthouseand say, hey, by the
way, everybody, thanks thanks forfinding me not guilty as we want to
(22:11):
let you know, I totally didit. I absolutely absolutely murdered that person.
But thank you all for believing mylies. I'm out. Yeah,
they can't do anything about that.How much sense does that actually make?
Or how about things like if youhave a confession from someone else completely uninvolved
(22:38):
with the case, a confession wheresomebody else says, no, I did
I did that. I absolutely didthat, but it gets thrown out because
they didn't use the right kind ofa staple in the paperwork, or they
put the staple on the left handinstead of on the right hand. And
I'm only being halfway so sarcastic withthat, because that's the kind of that's
(23:02):
the kind of stuff that they usedto get evidence thrown out in courts.
It makes no logical sense whatsoever.And believe me when I tell you,
it never goes in your benefit.So let me tell you what if I
got on the stand, if Iwas in there, if I was in
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the juror's box, and if Iwas overseeing the fate of someone else,
I'd be calling them out on theirbs. I'd go I'd go back into
that deliberation and I'd be like,no, I'm not I'm not giving them
(23:45):
anything. Can have a look atall the evidence. No, I'm just
I'm just not doing it because Iknow how they can fabricate evidence. I
know how they lie, I knowhow they can bully witnesses. I know
how they can coerce, they cancoerce statements, how they can coerce confessions,
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and on and on and on.I'm just not buying it. I
would absolutely be the cog in thewheel. They don't want me in that
jury box because I've seen behind thecurtain. I know how it works.
They don't want me in that roomwith eleven other people sitting there saying,
look, let me explain to youwhat's going on here. Here's what they're
not telling you about this particular situationhere. If you're running the greatest con
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job in the world, you don'twant somebody coming in blowing all your secrets.
That's the only logical reason that Ican see for it, Because what
does that have to do with anythinganything, What does jury duty have to
(24:56):
do with having a conviction other thanthe fact that you, you will empathize
with the defendant because you've been throughit. There's no other logical explanation for
it. And then next to lastis your public social benefits and housing.
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I mean, come on, publicsocial benefits and housing. So basically what
this says is you're not allowed toget state or federal grants, live in
public housing, receive federal cash assistance, no Social Security income, to food
stamps, all kinds of different things. Now this varies from state to state,
(25:41):
and fortunately it's easing up a bit. Like here in Nebraska, you
can get things like food stamps,you can get SSI, you can't get
some assistance, not much. Buthow housing? Why would you not want
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to help somebody with a place tolive when, first of all, homelessness
is already rampant in our country,we just ignore it and never talk about
it. And second, housing isthe number one barrier to re entry,
to successful reentry. So you're gonnatell me, you're gonna let somebody go
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at the end of their sentence,they've done their time, they've paid their
debt to society. They walk outthe door, and that person goes,
well, hey, can you helpme with a place to live? And
you go nope and slam the doorright behind them. In what scenario,
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in what universe is that not psychopathicand sociopathic? Knowingly sending someone out with
no shelter and in some cases noaccess to food. You're not gonna help
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them, Why would I help you? You piece of crap, get out
of here. And then lastly,child custody. Now this is a This
one is a big, big webto try to untangle. The conviction can
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be used obviously to get your childrentaken away from you just by rights of
having a conviction. Whether it relatesto your children at all, has nothing
to do with that, not athing. And if you're stuck inside like
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here in Nebrass, if you're stuckinside of a prison, you still have
to pay child support. Going beforethe court and saying I don't have any
money. I'm in prison, Idon't have a job that pays me much
more than like twenty bucks a month. So where am I supposed to get
this money? And so what theydo, in the out of the kindness
(28:23):
of their hearts is they drop itdown to fifty dollars a month and then
just let the tab run until youget out. And then you gotta pay
at all. Thanks. I guessso you're sending me out nowhere to live,
(28:45):
no access to food, a giantchild support bill that's already been racked
up for children that I can't evensee because you took them away from me.
And we expect that person to dobetter. We expect that person to
turn their life around and follow thepath of truth and justice. I want
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you to just stop for a minute, and if you're in a spot where
you can do this, just closeyour eyes and I want you to imagine
this. Imagine the person the firstperson that comes to mind the most,
the person that you're the closest with. Maybe it's a parent, maybe it's
(29:33):
a child, a sibling, afriend, a coworker. Just picture them
in your head. Now, imaginethem coming and asking you for help and
saying, man, I really messedup. I really messed up. I
(29:53):
need your help to get back onthe right track. What's your first instinct?
What first comes to mind? Isyour first thought to say, yeah,
man, what do you need?How can I help? And if
(30:17):
it was, congratulations, you're adecent human being. But if your first
thought is no, f off,get off my lawn and flip them the
bird while they're walking away. Youmay have some issues, seek help,
(30:41):
and apparently, I guess run foroffice. I don't know. Just take
that example, now, magnify thatto a macro scale. That's what we're
doing to the other people in ourcountry. And let's even go more macro
(31:04):
than that. Remember, everything inthis universe is made of energy, and
that energy all comes from the samesource. You can call it God,
you can call it the creative field, you can call it the zero point,
if you can call it whatever youwant. We all come from the
(31:26):
same source. Energy is never createdor destroyed. It just transfers states.
It goes from one state of matterto the other. What that actually means
in the grand scheme of this universeis that we are all connected. We
(31:47):
all come from the same energy source. We're all made of the same energy.
We are all connected. So whatwe do to one of us,
we do to all of us.Now, is that how you would want
to be treated? Is that howyou would treat yourself if you needed help.
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Is that how you would treat yourfriend or family member? Now,
the good news is a lot ofthese rights can be restored. It's a
massive pain in the ass process,and that's a topic for another day.
(32:35):
On the constructive side of things,though, don't ever give up fighting for
those rights, because you can getthem back one way or another. You
can get them back. If youhave found value in tonight's show, I
would love if you would take theopportunity to share the show with your community.
(33:00):
Let somebody else know. Let somebodyknow about this story. Maybe there's
somebody out there that you know let'sgoing through this struggle. Tell them to
listen. I'd love to have atalk with them. I'd love to hear
their story. Don't forget the websiteSurviving This System dot org, Facebook dot
com, slash Surviving the System andon Twitter at STS the podcast. I
(33:21):
keep the dms open on both ofthose. I love to hear from everybody.
That contact us page on my websitecomes right to me. I get
those pretty quickly, So thank youall for your time. I appreciate it,
and as always, don't forget,keep your head up, don't let
them get you. It may beeasy to look at all the corruption and
manipulation in the system and feel hopeless. Here at Surviving the System, we
(33:45):
hold to the belief that greatness isborn in the midst of extraordinary struggles.
You were created with a purpose,with infinite potential, and many have lost
sight of that fact. We're hereto remind you of who you are.
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