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repetition is the second law of learningand transformation. Repetition, repetition, repetition.
I'm going to say it until Ican't say it anymore. It allows
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that maybe you've had with listening toother stories where you get done and you're
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just all riled up, and you'relike, well, now I'm pissed off.
What the hell am I gonna do? So with that in mind,
I just want to take a quickmoment to say that I am. I
am so grateful to be here withyou, allowing me to live out my
purpose to help to remind you ofwho you really are. Now. I
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met my guest back in Oh,this must have been twenty nineteen, so
it's been about four years now thatI had a coworker who just randomly one
day said hey, have you everheard of creatum? And I said,
yeah, actually I have it.I've never tried it, and she told
me her experience with it, andI said, yeah, I have.
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Somebody else told me about it tooand how it helped with his back pain.
But I don't know, I've neverhad anything. And so she said,
well, I have him come stopout and maybe he can bring some
samples. And four years later,I don't think I've missed a day.
I have bricks, like almost literalbricks of creatum stored up in my cabinets
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downstairs because I use it very regularparly, very measured, but very regularly,
and over time. I really didn'tknow what it was for. I
just knew that it was like man, when I took it, Yeah,
I feel pretty good, and Iknew that I didn't have a crash afterwards.
And then after I had my experiencewith it, then I started to
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look into it and do the researchand the properties that creatum possesses and what
it does to the human body,and quite honestly, it's incredible. I
don't know why it's not being talkedabout more than it is, other than
the fact that probably the pharmaceutical companiesare keeping that story down. They don't
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want you talking about this. SoI'm cool talking about it. Why not?
So, without further ado, Iwould like to bring on my guest
mister Dylan Glover to talk to usabout creatum and his experience and what it's
really here for. So, Dylan, thank you for joining me today on
surviving the system. How are youman, Dance and Day? Thanks for
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having me. I'm blessed brother.How are you yeah? Doing well?
Doing well? So why don't westart off with your introduction to create them?
I just told my story, butwhat what brought you into into the
world of creatum and turned you intosuch an advocate for it. Yeah,
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So basically it kind of it kindof ties back to really early childhood,
I would say all the way backthat far, because I kind of got
a look into the side of addiction, the part of that lifestyle of addiction
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with my father. Um, hedealt with some mental issues ranging just from
kind of depression suicidal. His fatherwas suicidal as well, So it kind
of, I guess you would say, maybe ones in the blood, but
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he put me into into some sometough spots to where I got to learn
a lot and I got to reallysee what the lifestyle of addiction is about.
So jumping up to you know,younger age too, when I'm about
fifteen years old, I would sayI was kind of just in the whole
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realm of pharmaceuticals. I had familymembers who would take you know, painkillers
for my mother. She was ina car accident a while back, suffered
from some back issues, and shelost her mother at a fairly early age
and was prescribed a pretty heavy amountof of of medicine to kind of anti
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stress and anxiety medicine to deal withthat, which was way too much for
anyone to really handle. So justgoing through that through all of my years
up until I was about, youknow, fifteen to seventeen. Throughout high
school, I actually kind of fellinto that lifestyle myself and started taking pills
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and you know, pain killers andthings like that, and offer any specific
reason. I didn't have any physicalpain or mental pain. Really. I
was just kind of a product ofmy environment at that point. And that
went on for several several more yearsuntil I would say, probably eight or
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nine years ago when my grandmother whoraised me and my father, she had
passed away and I was for abouteight years I would say after high school,
I really spent a lot of alot of my years wasted learning some
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real tough lessons through addiction. AndI've found a way out of it eventually,
and I moved up to Nebraska towhere I had eventually met you.
But during that process, I'd movedto three or four states in between that
process from high school, from memoving to Nebraska in meeting you, and
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during that process, I found greatomand it was introduced to me too from
a friend of mine in Florida whoalso suffered with addiction and he was going
to like script doctors. He reallydid have some some mental issues. Not
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sure how far back they go,and not all the details on that,
but he had found creative. It'sfairly popular in Florida. I believe some
folks are also growing it down therein Florida now and advocating pretty heavily for
it. So it's it's popular inFlorida, being about twenty five years newer
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to the US or in the mainstreamat least. But he introduced me to
it. I really didn't think anythingof it. I was still on you
know, Xanax, and I thinkit was adderall I was on. I
really didn't think anything of it,though. I think I may have tried
it once or twice, but thatwas kind of it. Forgot about it.
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Moved again to Oregon where I wasin a relationship hit really the toughest
part of the journey, and youknow, was contemplating suicide things of that
nature. And the woman I wasin a relationship with, one of her
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friends had known about it, sothey said, hey, here's Creatum,
and I totally forgot about it.So I didn't even it didn't even correlate
in my mind, you know,it was like I was hearing about it
for the first time. Again,but the same thing. I took it.
I didn't feel anything from it,no change in mood or anything like
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that. And basically that was Thatwas kind of the start of it until
about three years later when I startedto try to get sober and off of
XANX and values. That was mymain thing, that was my addiction.
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And it's somehow, um, Ijust remembered, Hey, what about that
hearth that I heard of creating?And I did did some research on it
and reached out to some people,and I had gotten some ship from from
Indonesia, where it's primarily it's grownfrom. And I started trying to just
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incorporate it into into my routine forjust being able to get out of bed,
being able to function you know,because I couldn't function without without pills.
I mean I would I would,you know, not do morally right
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things to get them. I would, you know, just everything was a
catastrophe of my life. I was, you know, I would lie and
I felt like a totally different person. But I started kind of taking creatum.
It was a red string because generallythe I was told the red string
is more for a relaxation. SoI was like, okay, you know,
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being my situation, let me trythat out. So I tried it,
and I just eventually eventually stopped takingpharmaceuticals and I was able to to
step away from them. I wentthrough some you know, really tough times
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with that as well. But youknow, that was when I got to
Nebraska because I moved and changed mysurroundings, so I was able to to
start the process, you know,mentally, physically and emotionally, and I
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was able to get a different perspectivekind of on life because it just hit
at me like, hey, itjust dawned on to me, this is
not This can't be my life.This can't be the end of end of
it. There's I refused to acceptit. Um. So basically that's when
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I got to Nebraska, moved inwith my younger brother, and basically just
slept on the floor and started exercisinga bunch. I was still going through
that's when I was going through thewithdrawals, and basically I just started exercising
a lot and I began to getsober, got the toxins out of my
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body and um, and that thatwas actually when that's when I remembered,
hey, cretum, And that's whenI ordered it, started to take it,
and it really wasn't I didn't necessarilyuse it for the withdrawals, but
because mostly I really I sweated alot, and exercise really became my best
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friend and a way out. ButI was still dealing with a lot of
the after effects, I mean oflong term years of use of these pharmaceuticals.
So I was I had severe memorylaws. I almost had to retrain
myself to interact with people. Imean, there was a time where I
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couldn't even go into a convenience storeand give them the cashier my money because
I would shake so badly, justbuilt with fear and anxious and it was
just terrible. So I had torelearn some things, kind of retrain my
mind, and even years later,I still feel like I'm doing that,
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you know today, But definitely that'skind of that's kind of the breakdown of
it. So we've got just acouple of minutes here before take our break
at the bottom of the hour.So if you would just give us a
rundown real quick without going into toomuch detail, we'll pick that up after
we come back for break. Butwhat are some of the things that what
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are some of the symptoms. Whatare some of the diseases, whatever you
want to call them, What aresome of the things that creatum can help
people with. That's a very interestingquestion, so and that that's been kind
of a it's a good question.It's asked a lot. It really depends
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on kind of how much you take. So creatum basically it has a couple
of different effects to it. Ifwe're talking about just i mean, like
energy wise, basically, it's theless you take, the more creatum is
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going to act as as an energybooster. Now, if you take and
I mean like maybe a Graham ortwo, once you start getting into like
teaspoons and tablespoons, creatum is goingto act as more of relaxing. It's
going to be kind of more sidating. So it's gonna that's gonna help with
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with kind of just you know,maybe if someone's on edge or just a
little anxious things like that. Now, I mean there's people that take creatum
just to just as an alternative tomaybe coffee or energy drinks, I mean
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on that scale. But then there'salso people that take creatum because they have
severe plonic pain, maybe severe backproblems or or injuries that they deal with
on a daily basis, and thenI mean it even goes into more alkaloids
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that are in creatum. The alkaloidsthat are responsible for what I just spoke
of are only the two main alkaloidsin creatum, and basically they can are
able to do that because they operateoff of opioid receptors in the brain and
neurotransmitters that kind of just touch ontouch on some of those receptors instead of
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really binding to those receptors in yourbrain, you know, which would be
kind of the cause of some habitforming issues and things like that. But
creatum is able to It's an interestingplant in that way that it doesn't signal
through those opioid respiratory and depressant pathways, which is usually the case for causing
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overdose and some things. Well,we're gonna pause right there, and then
when we come back, what Iwant to do is I want you to
give us a breakdown of the differentstrains. You touched on it a little
bit there where you said you usethe red, but that means that there's
others, so we'll get into those. We'll do a breakdown and kind of
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touch on what each one is usedfor. And what they can potentially help
with. So stay tuned with us. We will be right back after this
break. Ye, welcome back tosurviving the system. If you are so
inclined, we'd love to We'd loveto have you call in and maybe tell
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us a story about your experience withCreative or maybe somebody you know. It
just seems like word is spreading veryslowly, but the lease, So I'm
sure if you haven't tried it yourself, you probably know someone that has.
So don't forget to call in oneday one hundred and five eight eight zero
three three five eight hundred five eighteight zero three three five. Now,
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Dylan, when we when we leftoff, I said, we're going to
talk about the strains, So canyou tell us first of all, when
when you say strain, what doesthat mean? And second of all,
how many of them are there?And what are they? For sure?
So strain is basically the leaf veincolor, and that's based off of just
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the time at which growth period thetree is in. And those are going
to be red, white and greenvein and those actually those are the different
actual colors kind of of the leaf, kind of the shade color. So
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kind of like to think of itas a stop light, if you will.
So red red vein cretum is generallygoing to be more more of a
relaxing type, right, so slowdown, um, Now, your your
white vein creatum, I guess wouldbe closer to yellow on the stop light,
but it's going to be more ofan energizing bland a lot of a
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lot of it's mostly commonly known topromote sensations of focus and productivity. And
your green vein creatum is going tobe a little bit mix of the both.
Most commonly green vein is going tobe um. I think it's really
reported mostly a favorite among people withlike the day to day chronic pain,
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like with the real the more themore severe discomfort. And then mang Da
is actually a pretty popular name andmain just refers to a blend of all
usually all of the red, white, and green fan creative strains put together.
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And now correct me if I'm wrong. Isn't it the green where?
And you talked about this previously,but it's very counterintuitive, so let's bring
it back up again. But withany of the strains, the less you
take oftentimes it's more effective. Soespecially if you're looking like for that energetic
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type of a boost or something likethat. You would think, you know,
we're so used to more and moreand more in this culture, and
it's very it's very opposite to that. So with the green, I know
if you take less that that tendsto kind of give you that that boost
of energy and just an overall feelingof well being. But it's that green
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specifically where when you start to takemore. Isn't it the green that people
are using to wean themselves off ofopioids? Sure, so it's probably most
popular for that, yes, Andwhy is that? You kind of talked
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a little bit about it, likewith the opioid receptors, but can you
just explain exactly what it is aboutcreatum that it does to the body in
regards to the opioid receptors and howit helps people to number one get off
of opioids, but number two alsohave the same pain relief that they were
before or more. Sure, So, I think it's all in the alkaloid
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content. So you're so being thatthe veins are based off of which growth
period the tree itself is in,which season it's in. If you will,
your veins are going to have differentalkaloids levels, so same alkaloids,
just different different levels of eight differentvariations of each alkaloid in the plant and
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the green van it's just responsible,I believe, mainly for the for targeting
the inflammation, which is I thinkprobably going to be why people in that
situation kind of kind of find thata favorite strain. And Yeah, there's
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something about the receptors where it yourbody thinks it's an opioid, so instead
of actually taking the opioids, ittriggers the same responses or fires the same
neurons or whatever you want to callit in your brain, so your your
brain still thinks you're getting it.You're actually weaning yourself off of the pharmaceutical
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opioid and replacing it with something morenatural, I guess is the best way
to put it. Correct. Yeah, it does it in a way to
where it's just kind of like playingtag with the opioid receptors being metrogyne in
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the primary act of alkaloid and cretum, which is responsible for this as a
what they call a partial agamist.Therefore it kind of just it kind of
just touches on the receptor, theopioid receptors just a little bit, but
it doesn't fully bind to those opioidreceptors, so it's going to be comforting
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um in the sense that it's kindof acting on those same feelings that you're
getting um when one might take somesome things like that, because it's it's
acting on the taking the same pathwayto do so, yeah, but not
not in not in in the waythat traditional opioids do. And here I
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remember, I remember when I firstwent to take it and you were explaining
it to me. How one ofthe main differences between creatum and opioids,
or even when we're talking about alittle bit ago where people are using it
to replace energy drinks and things likethat, the big difference is that your
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body handles the creatum exceptionally well,so there's no crash afterwards. Like if
you take a strain of creatum,whatever the strain may be red, white,
or green, it doesn't matter,and you get that feeling when it's
done after four or five hours andyou start to come down, you just
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you go back to feeling just normal, Like you don't crash, you don't
why about, you don't feel tired, it's nothing like that. You just
kind of go all right, Ifeel okay, you can just continue going.
But half the time you don't evenrealize. You're like, oh crap,
the creatim more off. I gotto get a little bit more.
I didn't even realize. Yeah,yeah, absolutely. I think that that's
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one of the beautiful things about it, you know, is that I guess,
depending on the severity of your situationand how often you need to take
it, it's it's really really fascinatingthat you can take it and then just
when you you just feel like youdid before you took it. Yeah.
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Yeah, so I don't. Idon't think I've ever really told my whole
story of creative. I've talked aboutusing it a little bit, but you
know, when you first introduced meto it, I'm pretty sure you gave
you gave me a few of them, but it was the green if I
remember, that had that effect onme where I finally felt it good for
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a couple of days. And thefirst couple of days I was like,
well, maybe it's because I don'tI don't have any pain or I'm not
struggling with anything. I don't Idon't do opioids. But I was like,
I don't feel anything like why dopeople take this? I don't get
it. And then all of asudden that third day, about an hour
hour and a half after I tookthe pills, just kind of got that,
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I don't know, just like awarm feeling like in the pity or
stomach, and you just kind ofgo, man, I feel really good
right about now. And then Iwas like, oh, oh, that's
what everybody's been talking about. Okay. But since that point, man,
I have I've messed around with tryingthem all kinds of different ways, and
I remember the right now, theway that I find the most beneficial.
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I still so I still take coffeeduring the day, but I only drink
one maybe two cups depending, butI take the I do bulletproof coffee.
So when I drink my coffee,I've got the butter and the coconut oil
in there as well for that fatburning boost. And then I'll just put
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a little bit of white in there. You know, I noticed when I
mixed it. You mentioned before thatthe white strain has that focus like people
say that they experience. I thinkthat's a pretty good way to do it.
So if I mix it with thecoffee about an hour after hour hour
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after you take it, all ofa sudden, it's just like the switch
turns on in your brain and you'relike, all right, it's go time,
and you and that just laser focus, tons of energy and just ready
to go. And that I've beendoing that for Man, it's gonna be
coming up on three years just thatway. Specifically, you'll probably remember this.
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When I was working in the basementand in my former company, I
told everybody they're about about it becauseI had it there and I scooped at
my coffee and they were like,what are you doing. I was like,
oh, it's creatum, and Iexplained everything we're just talking about to
him. I said, just puta little bit in your coffee. And
the owner, I'll never forget theowner. She like, she tried it
in her coffee, and then acouple hours later she leans over. She's
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like, hey, hey, Davidcame here. And I lean over and
she's like, do you think youcan get some more of that stuff?
And I was like, yeah it. Why are you whispering? It's legal,
Like, I'll just call the dude, he'll come over here right now.
And you came over and they bought. I don't even remember how many
back there was creatum bags just everywhere. They were laying all over the basement.
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They just they emptied you out.But I can speak for myself that
holy crap, that makes such adifference. And here's something that I that
I have noticed as well, speakingto that no crash. I think I
mentioned this to you before previously,and I don't know if he had a
chance to do much research on it, but some of the research that I
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did on my own, and thisis going back centuries, but the tribes
in Indonesia when they would when theywould go to war with each other,
they would take the creatum because whatthey've noticed is like when you've got centuries
that have to stay up at nighton watch, it's very difficult because your
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body has that natural circadian rhythm,and if you push too far without resting
and sleeping, your body essentially startsto crash and you shut down, You
get sick, you get wiped out, you get exhaustion. But they'd noticed
that by taking creatum it eliminated thatcrash. It's like your body kind of
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resets itself naturally, so you canpush past the normal limits and not have
not have the backlash where all ofa sudden you collapse from exhaustion, or
you get sick, or you justfall over or whatever it is. So
there's all kinds of different uses forit. But what what are some of
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maybe the more impactful stories if youhad to come up with one or two
stories of people that you've seen justwith a dramatic turnaround other than yourself,
what can you think of what comesto mind? Sure? So, and
I think it's relevant too, justfor the sake of the plant and the
audience and everyone listening. I thinkthe reason I'm like you in this this
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sense that I've been taking you know, I take the tablets that we've got,
and they're one Graham tablets, butI've never I have been taken it
for a couple of years myself,and I don't take more than one.
You know. Yeah, so youhave a you have a really nice dose
going on. But IM just theother day I heard about gentleman that got
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into a car accident and he hadhis spinal cord was really really messed up,
I want to say the guy saidsevered, but it was severely severely
messed up, and he was ableto get some relief from that with creatum,
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and I just found that just justamazed me, and it surprised me,
even though you know, I've heardsome other stories and things with addiction
and chronic patients with her with FIBROUand MSS, even from soldiers with PTSD
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and things, but that one reallyreally took me by surprise, just because
of the severity of his situation.What are what are some other stories that
you've heard of with the red becauseI and I'm really curious about that one,
because I, like, I don'tstruggle with anxiety or PTSD much anymore.
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I've still got a little bit thatrears its head from from my dysfunctional
vacation, but overall, I manageit fairly well, so I have read,
but I don't do much with it. When you say that it helps
with anxiety, and obviously it helpedin your case with like XANIX and adderall,
what is there another story of somebodywith the red that maybe you can
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that you can touch on, becausethat's something that I just I don't know
enough about. I don't have thatexperience with it. Yeah, So my
sister actually, um, she takesthe red. The red is her favorite
and she she's a recover alcoholic.I don't know how popular that is specifically
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with the red vein, although Ihave heard several people personally that do take
creatum instead of drinking alcohol, maybebecause they've either had a problem with it
or they just prefer to do that. But I would say that it's pretty
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pretty popular among people who have beenalcoholics or just prefer to use creatum over
alcohol, would be the red vein. And I guess that's just gonna go
back to kind of the more relaxingeffects versus the energizing kind of the youth
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for it, maybe the more likea mood balance, you know, maybe
from stress or things of that nature. Yeah, And I think as we're
getting close to the end here,you know, I always try to end
on on a productive note and kindof some you know, here's what you
can do now that you know thisinformation. But I think that that is
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really just why I wanted to bringyou to talk about creatum, because when
we tie this in with you know, the theme of surviving the system.
Man, how many people, howmany people do you know that have struggled
with an addiction that led them downthe path of going to jail or going
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to prison or losing everything they have, or then the health issues and getting
stuck in this god awful medical systemand not having enough money to get the
proper care, and like, allthe way down the line, it just
seems like and I don't want tocall it like a panacea. I don't
want to call it a wonder drugor a cure all. But man,
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there comes a point we were like, dude, is there is there anything
that this that this strain can't do? Like, is there anything that creatum
can at least help in some formerfashion with? So I just see it
as man, even going back tojust talking about the energy drinks. You
know, energy drinks, you mightthink that that's something minor or even you
know, if you if you drinksome coffee whatever it is through the day,
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that's cool. There's worse things youcould do. But the long term
effects of energy drinks are just terribleon your body. And eventually your body's
going to start to just shut down. You'll have adrenal burnout, you'll have
heart problems and cholesterol and blood pressurejust all the way around. Or you
just take some creatum and never haveto worry about any of that for the
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rest of your life. Actually theexact opposite. So, and I'm there's
a lot of medical studies that aregoing on around this as well, aren't
there, because I know you've publishedor not published, but at least you've
shared quite a bit of publications thatare going on. Because pharmaceutical companies,
alcohol companies, there's a big,a big group of people that are lobbying
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against creative and trying to get ittaken off the shelves and made an illegal
substance because of that fact. What'sgoing on behind the scenes that you've seen
as far as maybe some of thosestudies and publications, Sure, so my
sister actually she has also been kindof like researching and studying up on it,
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which I think is important for anyonewho takes creative. It's just to
get as much knowledge out there asyou can with it. There are plenty
of studies out there that I mean, there's even a couple of recent human
trials out there. But there area ton a ton of studies out there
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by credible, credible institutions. Sothere's not a lack of data out there
about creatum. And one could makethe counter argument that it's addicting, it's
habit forming, this and that.But at the end of the day,
I would I would just encourage anyoneto look at the look at the studies,
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look at the case studies, readthe data out there, and make
sure that there are some some institutionsout there who might not want people to
to have Creatum and might not wantCreatum to be accessible. Yeah, but
the information is out there, andit's there for anyone on the public domain,
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and there's a tremendous amount of otherfolks out there that have had creative
experiences. So definitely it's it's definitelyout there. We've got just about two
minutes left, but I want tomake sure that everybody knows you also sell
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creatum. So it's not just somethingthat you talk about. It's not just
something that you you hooked me ontoyou you actually are making a business out
of this. So if someone wasso inclined, what is the best way
for them to get in contact withyou to get more information and possibly purchase
some from you. Yeah, Sobasically it would be recovererb dot com.
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That is the name of the brand, and we've recently just been focused kind
of in B to B and retailsales. I've been in this industry kind
of volume off for about five toseven years, just learning about the plant,
but just recently, you know,got a full product line established and
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lab test and just really trying tomake sure we're doing our due diligence there.
But we do have some information availableon recovererb dot com and some lab
test things like that people can checkout. Soon. I would say within
the next couple of weeks, weshould have products on the website, first
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sale perfect recovererb dot com. Andof course if anyone has any questions and
can't get to the website or forgetswhat it is, I'll put it up
in the show notes. But youcan reach out to me as well,
Facebook dot com, slash Surviving ThisSystem, or Twitter at STS. The
podcast and my website, Surviving theSystem dot org has a contact page as
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well. Feel free to reach out. Doling. We are we are out
of time, so I'm gonna wrapthings up here, but I want to
thank you very much for coming on. You know, thank you very much
for everything that you're doing. Idon't think people actually realize how important,
how important creatim actually can be inour day to day lives. So take
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a look. I highly recommend it. Don't go to the gas station and
grab it though, like grab itfrom Dylan, take a look at it.
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met my guest back in Oh,this must have been twenty nineteen, so
it's been about four years now thatI had a coworker who just randomly one
day said hey, have you everheard of creatum? And I said,
yeah, actually I have it.I've never tried it, and she told
me her experience with it, andI said, yeah, I have.
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Somebody else told me about it tooand how it helped with his back pain.
But I don't know, I've neverhad anything. And so she said,
well, I have him come stopout and maybe he can bring some
samples. And four years later,I don't think I've missed a day.
I have bricks, like almost literalbricks of creatum stored up in my cabinets
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downstairs because I use it very regularparly, very measured, but very regularly,
and over time. I really didn'tknow what it was for. I
just knew that it was like man, when I took it, Yeah,
I feel pretty good, and Iknew that I didn't have a crash afterwards.
And then after I had my experiencewith it, then I started to
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look into it and do the researchand the properties that creatum possesses and what
it does to the human body,and quite honestly, it's incredible. I
don't know why it's not being talkedabout more than it is, other than
the fact that probably the pharmaceutical companiesare keeping that story down. They don't
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want you talking about this. SoI'm cool talking about it. Why not?
So, without further ado, Iwould like to bring on my guest
mister Dylan Glover to talk to usabout creatum and his experience and what it's
really here for. So, Dylan, thank you for joining me today on
surviving the system. How are youman, Dance and Day? Thanks for
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having me. I'm blessed brother.How are you yeah? Doing well?
Doing well? So why don't westart off with your introduction to create them?
I just told my story, butwhat what brought you into into the
world of creatum and turned you intosuch an advocate for it. Yeah,
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So basically it kind of it kindof ties back to really early childhood,
I would say all the way backthat far, because I kind of got
a look into the side of addiction, the part of that lifestyle of addiction
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with my father. Um, hedealt with some mental issues ranging just from
kind of depression suicidal. His fatherwas suicidal as well, So it kind
of, I guess you would say, maybe ones in the blood, but
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he put me into into some sometough spots to where I got to learn
a lot and I got to reallysee what the lifestyle of addiction is about.
So jumping up to you know,younger age too, when I'm about
fifteen years old, I would sayI was kind of just in the whole
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realm of pharmaceuticals. I had familymembers who would take you know, painkillers
for my mother. She was ina car accident a while back, suffered
from some back issues, and shelost her mother at a fairly early age
and was prescribed a pretty heavy amountof of of medicine to kind of anti
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stress and anxiety medicine to deal withthat, which was way too much for
anyone to really handle. So justgoing through that through all of my years
up until I was about, youknow, fifteen to seventeen. Throughout high
school, I actually kind of fellinto that lifestyle myself and started taking pills
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and you know, pain killers andthings like that, and offer any specific
reason. I didn't have any physicalpain or mental pain. Really. I
was just kind of a product ofmy environment at that point. And that
went on for several several more yearsuntil I would say, probably eight or
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nine years ago when my grandmother whoraised me and my father, she had
passed away and I was for abouteight years I would say after high school,
I really spent a lot of alot of my years wasted learning some
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real tough lessons through addiction. AndI've found a way out of it eventually,
and I moved up to Nebraska towhere I had eventually met you.
But during that process, I'd movedto three or four states in between that
process from high school, from memoving to Nebraska in meeting you, and
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during that process, I found greatomand it was introduced to me too from
a friend of mine in Florida whoalso suffered with addiction and he was going
to like script doctors. He reallydid have some some mental issues. Not
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sure how far back they go,and not all the details on that,
but he had found creative. It'sfairly popular in Florida. I believe some
folks are also growing it down therein Florida now and advocating pretty heavily for
it. So it's it's popular inFlorida, being about twenty five years newer
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to the US or in the mainstreamat least. But he introduced me to
it. I really didn't think anythingof it. I was still on you
know, Xanax, and I thinkit was adderall I was on. I
really didn't think anything of it,though. I think I may have tried
it once or twice, but thatwas kind of it. Forgot about it.
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Moved again to Oregon where I wasin a relationship hit really the toughest
part of the journey, and youknow, was contemplating suicide things of that
nature. And the woman I wasin a relationship with, one of her
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friends had known about it, sothey said, hey, here's Creatum,
and I totally forgot about it.So I didn't even it didn't even correlate
in my mind, you know,it was like I was hearing about it
for the first time. Again,but the same thing. I took it.
I didn't feel anything from it,no change in mood or anything like
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that. And basically that was Thatwas kind of the start of it until
about three years later when I startedto try to get sober and off of
XANX and values. That was mymain thing, that was my addiction.
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And it's somehow, um, Ijust remembered, Hey, what about that
hearth that I heard of creating?And I did did some research on it
and reached out to some people,and I had gotten some ship from from
Indonesia, where it's primarily it's grownfrom. And I started trying to just
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incorporate it into into my routine forjust being able to get out of bed,
being able to function you know,because I couldn't function without without pills.
I mean I would I would,you know, not do morally right
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things to get them. I would, you know, just everything was a
catastrophe of my life. I was, you know, I would lie and
I felt like a totally different person. But I started kind of taking creatum.
It was a red string because generallythe I was told the red string
is more for a relaxation. SoI was like, okay, you know,
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being my situation, let me trythat out. So I tried it,
and I just eventually eventually stopped takingpharmaceuticals and I was able to to
step away from them. I wentthrough some you know, really tough times
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with that as well. But youknow, that was when I got to
Nebraska because I moved and changed mysurroundings, so I was able to to
start the process, you know,mentally, physically and emotionally, and I
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was able to get a different perspectivekind of on life because it just hit
at me like, hey, itjust dawned on to me, this is
not This can't be my life.This can't be the end of end of
it. There's I refused to acceptit. Um. So basically that's when
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I got to Nebraska, moved inwith my younger brother, and basically just
slept on the floor and started exercisinga bunch. I was still going through
that's when I was going through thewithdrawals, and basically I just started exercising
a lot and I began to getsober, got the toxins out of my
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body and um, and that thatwas actually when that's when I remembered,
hey, cretum, And that's whenI ordered it, started to take it,
and it really wasn't I didn't necessarilyuse it for the withdrawals, but
because mostly I really I sweated alot, and exercise really became my best
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friend and a way out. ButI was still dealing with a lot of
the after effects, I mean oflong term years of use of these pharmaceuticals.
So I was I had severe memorylaws. I almost had to retrain
myself to interact with people. Imean, there was a time where I
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couldn't even go into a convenience storeand give them the cashier my money because
I would shake so badly, justbuilt with fear and anxious and it was
just terrible. So I had torelearn some things, kind of retrain my
mind, and even years later,I still feel like I'm doing that,
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you know today, But definitely that'skind of that's kind of the breakdown of
it. So we've got just acouple of minutes here before take our break
at the bottom of the hour.So if you would just give us a
rundown real quick without going into toomuch detail, we'll pick that up after
we come back for break. Butwhat are some of the things that what
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are some of the symptoms. Whatare some of the diseases, whatever you
want to call them, What aresome of the things that creatum can help
people with. That's a very interestingquestion, so and that that's been kind
of a it's a good question.It's asked a lot. It really depends
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on kind of how much you take. So creatum basically it has a couple
of different effects to it. Ifwe're talking about just i mean, like
energy wise, basically, it's theless you take, the more creatum is
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going to act as as an energybooster. Now, if you take and
I mean like maybe a Graham ortwo, once you start getting into like
teaspoons and tablespoons, creatum is goingto act as more of relaxing. It's
going to be kind of more sidating. So it's gonna that's gonna help with
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with kind of just you know,maybe if someone's on edge or just a
little anxious things like that. Now, I mean there's people that take creatum
just to just as an alternative tomaybe coffee or energy drinks, I mean
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on that scale. But then there'salso people that take creatum because they have
severe plonic pain, maybe severe backproblems or or injuries that they deal with
on a daily basis, and thenI mean it even goes into more alkaloids
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that are in creatum. The alkaloidsthat are responsible for what I just spoke
of are only the two main alkaloidsin creatum, and basically they can are
able to do that because they operateoff of opioid receptors in the brain and
neurotransmitters that kind of just touch ontouch on some of those receptors instead of
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really binding to those receptors in yourbrain, you know, which would be
kind of the cause of some habitforming issues and things like that. But
creatum is able to It's an interestingplant in that way that it doesn't signal
through those opioid respiratory and depressant pathways, which is usually the case for causing
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overdose and some things. Well,we're gonna pause right there, and then
when we come back, what Iwant to do is I want you to
give us a breakdown of the differentstrains. You touched on it a little
bit there where you said you usethe red, but that means that there's
others, so we'll get into those. We'll do a breakdown and kind of
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touch on what each one is usedfor. And what they can potentially help
with. So stay tuned with us. We will be right back after this
break. Ye, welcome back tosurviving the system. If you are so
inclined, we'd love to We'd loveto have you call in and maybe tell
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us a story about your experience withCreative or maybe somebody you know. It
just seems like word is spreading veryslowly, but the lease, So I'm
sure if you haven't tried it yourself, you probably know someone that has.
So don't forget to call in oneday one hundred and five eight eight zero
three three five eight hundred five eighteight zero three three five. Now,
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Dylan, when we when we leftoff, I said, we're going to
talk about the strains, So canyou tell us first of all, when
when you say strain, what doesthat mean? And second of all,
how many of them are there?And what are they? For sure?
So strain is basically the leaf veincolor, and that's based off of just
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the time at which growth period thetree is in. And those are going
to be red, white and greenvein and those actually those are the different
actual colors kind of of the leaf, kind of the shade color. So
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kind of like to think of itas a stop light, if you will.
So red red vein cretum is generallygoing to be more more of a
relaxing type, right, so slowdown, um, Now, your your
white vein creatum, I guess wouldbe closer to yellow on the stop light,
but it's going to be more ofan energizing bland a lot of a
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lot of it's mostly commonly known topromote sensations of focus and productivity. And
your green vein creatum is going tobe a little bit mix of the both.
Most commonly green vein is going tobe um. I think it's really
reported mostly a favorite among people withlike the day to day chronic pain,
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like with the real the more themore severe discomfort. And then mang Da
is actually a pretty popular name andmain just refers to a blend of all
usually all of the red, white, and green fan creative strains put together.
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And now correct me if I'm wrong. Isn't it the green where?
And you talked about this previously,but it's very counterintuitive, so let's bring
it back up again. But withany of the strains, the less you
take oftentimes it's more effective. Soespecially if you're looking like for that energetic
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type of a boost or something likethat. You would think, you know,
we're so used to more and moreand more in this culture, and
it's very it's very opposite to that. So with the green, I know
if you take less that that tendsto kind of give you that that boost
of energy and just an overall feelingof well being. But it's that green
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specifically where when you start to takemore. Isn't it the green that people
are using to wean themselves off ofopioids? Sure, so it's probably most
popular for that, yes, Andwhy is that? You kind of talked
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a little bit about it, likewith the opioid receptors, but can you
just explain exactly what it is aboutcreatum that it does to the body in
regards to the opioid receptors and howit helps people to number one get off
of opioids, but number two alsohave the same pain relief that they were
before or more. Sure, So, I think it's all in the alkaloid
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content. So you're so being thatthe veins are based off of which growth
period the tree itself is in,which season it's in. If you will,
your veins are going to have differentalkaloids levels, so same alkaloids,
just different different levels of eight differentvariations of each alkaloid in the plant and
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the green van it's just responsible,I believe, mainly for the for targeting
the inflammation, which is I thinkprobably going to be why people in that
situation kind of kind of find thata favorite strain. And Yeah, there's
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something about the receptors where it yourbody thinks it's an opioid, so instead
of actually taking the opioids, ittriggers the same responses or fires the same
neurons or whatever you want to callit in your brain, so your your
brain still thinks you're getting it.You're actually weaning yourself off of the pharmaceutical
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opioid and replacing it with something morenatural, I guess is the best way
to put it. Correct. Yeah, it does it in a way to
where it's just kind of like playingtag with the opioid receptors being metrogyne in
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the primary act of alkaloid and cretum, which is responsible for this as a
what they call a partial agamist.Therefore it kind of just it kind of
just touches on the receptor, theopioid receptors just a little bit, but
it doesn't fully bind to those opioidreceptors, so it's going to be comforting
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um in the sense that it's kindof acting on those same feelings that you're
getting um when one might take somesome things like that, because it's it's
acting on the taking the same pathwayto do so, yeah, but not
not in not in in the waythat traditional opioids do. And here I
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remember, I remember when I firstwent to take it and you were explaining
it to me. How one ofthe main differences between creatum and opioids,
or even when we're talking about alittle bit ago where people are using it
to replace energy drinks and things likethat, the big difference is that your
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body handles the creatum exceptionally well,so there's no crash afterwards. Like if
you take a strain of creatum,whatever the strain may be red, white,
or green, it doesn't matter,and you get that feeling when it's
done after four or five hours andyou start to come down, you just
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you go back to feeling just normal, Like you don't crash, you don't
why about, you don't feel tired, it's nothing like that. You just
kind of go all right, Ifeel okay, you can just continue going.
But half the time you don't evenrealize. You're like, oh crap,
the creatim more off. I gotto get a little bit more.
I didn't even realize. Yeah,yeah, absolutely. I think that that's
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one of the beautiful things about it, you know, is that I guess,
depending on the severity of your situationand how often you need to take
it, it's it's really really fascinatingthat you can take it and then just
when you you just feel like youdid before you took it. Yeah.
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Yeah, so I don't. Idon't think I've ever really told my whole
story of creative. I've talked aboutusing it a little bit, but you
know, when you first introduced meto it, I'm pretty sure you gave
you gave me a few of them, but it was the green if I
remember, that had that effect onme where I finally felt it good for
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a couple of days. And thefirst couple of days I was like,
well, maybe it's because I don'tI don't have any pain or I'm not
struggling with anything. I don't Idon't do opioids. But I was like,
I don't feel anything like why dopeople take this? I don't get
it. And then all of asudden that third day, about an hour
hour and a half after I tookthe pills, just kind of got that,
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I don't know, just like awarm feeling like in the pity or
stomach, and you just kind ofgo, man, I feel really good
right about now. And then Iwas like, oh, oh, that's
what everybody's been talking about. Okay. But since that point, man,
I have I've messed around with tryingthem all kinds of different ways, and
I remember the right now, theway that I find the most beneficial.
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I still so I still take coffeeduring the day, but I only drink
one maybe two cups depending, butI take the I do bulletproof coffee.
So when I drink my coffee,I've got the butter and the coconut oil
in there as well for that fatburning boost. And then I'll just put
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a little bit of white in there. You know, I noticed when I
mixed it. You mentioned before thatthe white strain has that focus like people
say that they experience. I thinkthat's a pretty good way to do it.
So if I mix it with thecoffee about an hour after hour hour
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after you take it, all ofa sudden, it's just like the switch
turns on in your brain and you'relike, all right, it's go time,
and you and that just laser focus, tons of energy and just ready
to go. And that I've beendoing that for Man, it's gonna be
coming up on three years just thatway. Specifically, you'll probably remember this.
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When I was working in the basementand in my former company, I
told everybody they're about about it becauseI had it there and I scooped at
my coffee and they were like,what are you doing. I was like,
oh, it's creatum, and Iexplained everything we're just talking about to
him. I said, just puta little bit in your coffee. And
the owner, I'll never forget theowner. She like, she tried it
in her coffee, and then acouple hours later she leans over. She's
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like, hey, hey, Davidcame here. And I lean over and
she's like, do you think youcan get some more of that stuff?
And I was like, yeah it. Why are you whispering? It's legal,
Like, I'll just call the dude, he'll come over here right now.
And you came over and they bought. I don't even remember how many
back there was creatum bags just everywhere. They were laying all over the basement.
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They just they emptied you out.But I can speak for myself that
holy crap, that makes such adifference. And here's something that I that
I have noticed as well, speakingto that no crash. I think I
mentioned this to you before previously,and I don't know if he had a
chance to do much research on it, but some of the research that I
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did on my own, and thisis going back centuries, but the tribes
in Indonesia when they would when theywould go to war with each other,
they would take the creatum because whatthey've noticed is like when you've got centuries
that have to stay up at nighton watch, it's very difficult because your
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body has that natural circadian rhythm,and if you push too far without resting
and sleeping, your body essentially startsto crash and you shut down, You
get sick, you get wiped out, you get exhaustion. But they'd noticed
that by taking creatum it eliminated thatcrash. It's like your body kind of
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resets itself naturally, so you canpush past the normal limits and not have
not have the backlash where all ofa sudden you collapse from exhaustion, or
you get sick, or you justfall over or whatever it is. So
there's all kinds of different uses forit. But what what are some of
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maybe the more impactful stories if youhad to come up with one or two
stories of people that you've seen justwith a dramatic turnaround other than yourself,
what can you think of what comesto mind? Sure? So, and
I think it's relevant too, justfor the sake of the plant and the
audience and everyone listening. I thinkthe reason I'm like you in this this
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sense that I've been taking you know, I take the tablets that we've got,
and they're one Graham tablets, butI've never I have been taken it
for a couple of years myself,and I don't take more than one.
You know. Yeah, so youhave a you have a really nice dose
going on. But IM just theother day I heard about gentleman that got
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into a car accident and he hadhis spinal cord was really really messed up,
I want to say the guy saidsevered, but it was severely severely
messed up, and he was ableto get some relief from that with creatum,
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and I just found that just justamazed me, and it surprised me,
even though you know, I've heardsome other stories and things with addiction
and chronic patients with her with FIBROUand MSS, even from soldiers with PTSD
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and things, but that one reallyreally took me by surprise, just because
of the severity of his situation.What are what are some other stories that
you've heard of with the red becauseI and I'm really curious about that one,
because I, like, I don'tstruggle with anxiety or PTSD much anymore.
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I've still got a little bit thatrears its head from from my dysfunctional
vacation, but overall, I manageit fairly well, so I have read,
but I don't do much with it. When you say that it helps
with anxiety, and obviously it helpedin your case with like XANIX and adderall,
what is there another story of somebodywith the red that maybe you can
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that you can touch on, becausethat's something that I just I don't know
enough about. I don't have thatexperience with it. Yeah, So my
sister actually, um, she takesthe red. The red is her favorite
and she she's a recover alcoholic.I don't know how popular that is specifically
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with the red vein, although Ihave heard several people personally that do take
creatum instead of drinking alcohol, maybebecause they've either had a problem with it
or they just prefer to do that. But I would say that it's pretty
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pretty popular among people who have beenalcoholics or just prefer to use creatum over
alcohol, would be the red vein. And I guess that's just gonna go
back to kind of the more relaxingeffects versus the energizing kind of the youth
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for it, maybe the more likea mood balance, you know, maybe
from stress or things of that nature. Yeah, And I think as we're
getting close to the end here,you know, I always try to end
on on a productive note and kindof some you know, here's what you
can do now that you know thisinformation. But I think that that is
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really just why I wanted to bringyou to talk about creatum, because when
we tie this in with you know, the theme of surviving the system.
Man, how many people, howmany people do you know that have struggled
with an addiction that led them downthe path of going to jail or going
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to prison or losing everything they have, or then the health issues and getting
stuck in this god awful medical systemand not having enough money to get the
proper care, and like, allthe way down the line, it just
seems like and I don't want tocall it like a panacea. I don't
want to call it a wonder drugor a cure all. But man,
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there comes a point we were like, dude, is there is there anything
that this that this strain can't do? Like, is there anything that creatum
can at least help in some formerfashion with? So I just see it
as man, even going back tojust talking about the energy drinks. You
know, energy drinks, you mightthink that that's something minor or even you
know, if you if you drinksome coffee whatever it is through the day,
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that's cool. There's worse things youcould do. But the long term
effects of energy drinks are just terribleon your body. And eventually your body's
going to start to just shut down. You'll have adrenal burnout, you'll have
heart problems and cholesterol and blood pressurejust all the way around. Or you
just take some creatum and never haveto worry about any of that for the
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rest of your life. Actually theexact opposite. So, and I'm there's
a lot of medical studies that aregoing on around this as well, aren't
there, because I know you've publishedor not published, but at least you've
shared quite a bit of publications thatare going on. Because pharmaceutical companies,
alcohol companies, there's a big,a big group of people that are lobbying
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against creative and trying to get ittaken off the shelves and made an illegal
substance because of that fact. What'sgoing on behind the scenes that you've seen
as far as maybe some of thosestudies and publications, Sure, so my
sister actually she has also been kindof like researching and studying up on it,
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which I think is important for anyonewho takes creative. It's just to
get as much knowledge out there asyou can with it. There are plenty
of studies out there that I mean, there's even a couple of recent human
trials out there. But there area ton a ton of studies out there
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by credible, credible institutions. Sothere's not a lack of data out there
about creatum. And one could makethe counter argument that it's addicting, it's
habit forming, this and that.But at the end of the day,
I would I would just encourage anyoneto look at the look at the studies,
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look at the case studies, readthe data out there, and make
sure that there are some some institutionsout there who might not want people to
to have Creatum and might not wantCreatum to be accessible. Yeah, but
the information is out there, andit's there for anyone on the public domain,
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and there's a tremendous amount of otherfolks out there that have had creative
experiences. So definitely it's it's definitelyout there. We've got just about two
minutes left, but I want tomake sure that everybody knows you also sell
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creatum. So it's not just somethingthat you talk about. It's not just
something that you you hooked me ontoyou you actually are making a business out
of this. So if someone wasso inclined, what is the best way
for them to get in contact withyou to get more information and possibly purchase
some from you. Yeah, Sobasically it would be recovererb dot com.
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That is the name of the brand, and we've recently just been focused kind
of in B to B and retailsales. I've been in this industry kind
of volume off for about five toseven years, just learning about the plant,
but just recently, you know,got a full product line established and
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lab test and just really trying tomake sure we're doing our due diligence there.
But we do have some information availableon recovererb dot com and some lab
test things like that people can checkout. Soon. I would say within
the next couple of weeks, weshould have products on the website, first
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sale perfect recovererb dot com. Andof course if anyone has any questions and
can't get to the website or forgetswhat it is, I'll put it up
in the show notes. But youcan reach out to me as well,
Facebook dot com, slash Surviving ThisSystem, or Twitter at STS. The
podcast and my website, Surviving theSystem dot org has a contact page as
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well. Feel free to reach out. Doling. We are we are out
of time, so I'm gonna wrapthings up here, but I want to
thank you very much for coming on. You know, thank you very much
for everything that you're doing. Idon't think people actually realize how important,
how important creatim actually can be inour day to day lives. So take
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a look. I highly recommend it. Don't go to the gas station and
grab it though, like grab itfrom Dylan, take a look at it.
Thank you very much for joining ustoday. I appreciate your time.
I hope you found value in today'sshow, and as always, remember keep
your head up, don't let themget you. It may be easy to
look at all the corruption and manipulationin the system and feel hopeless. Here
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at surviving a system. We holdto the belief that greatness is born in
the midst of extraordinary struggles. Youwere created with a purpose, with infinite
potential, and many have lost sightof that back We're here to remind you
of who you are. The bestrevenge, the success
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