UFOs Over Teotihuacan

It's a bird! It's a plane! It's extraterrestrial! In this episode, Ayden shares multiple accounts of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP aka UFO) over the ancient and mysterious city of Teotihuacan, Mexico!

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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hey, girl friends, it's me Adrian or Aiden. Either way,
I am still your host and you are still listening
to Soustol, the podcast of Oogie Spooky Scary Stories centered
on paranormal folklore from Latin American cultures. Welcome back, Thank
you for joining me. And if this is your first time,
welcome You're finally Hey, you're finally here. Handshake, Peace be

(00:44):
to you and also with you and all of that stuff.
So today is officially, well the day that I'm recording
it is officially September one. I feel like everybody is
claiming it as officially the first day of fall in Halloween.
But listen, it's been a hot summer and I'm ready.
I'm over it. I am ready to scratch that itch
and have my Halloween time, or really to have everybody

(01:06):
else catch up to us, right, because I feel like,
you know, we do the paranormal three six' five over,
Here so it's exciting to see the rest of the,
world or at least the rest of the country reflect.
That so very excited for the spooky. Times speaking, of
we have some fun things lined. Up so of course
we have some events coming. UP i know THAT i said,
initially we were going to do, something and we still.

(01:28):
Are we were just doing a. Rescheduling that's Why i'm,
saying let's wait until the flyers come out before you
all commit to. Anything i'm just doing this as a heads.
Up So Haunt Happy books In, Lockhart texas one of
my favorite bookstores in the. World we will be doing
something there In. October originally it was the, eleventh but scratch.
That we are rebooking. It it's totally. Fine, however there
are two other events happening In october the tenth at

(01:48):
The Deuise branch of The Austin Public. Library i'm doing
a story time. There they're doing an entire event and
they actually did send me the flyerside will be posting
that very. Soon it's so. Cute the entire event sounds
like it's going to be a total. BLAST i am
kicking it off with the story time and you can
find details about that on my social media. Pages, again
that's at social podcast on every social media, platform so

(02:09):
you definitely do not want to miss. That it is
a free event to the, public so go. Out it's
going to be a lot of. Fun, ADDITIONALLY i am
also doing the Night owl Podcasts Spirit social On october,
thirty First Halloween. Night that one is a ticketed. EVENT
i BELIEVE vip tickets are already completely sold, out so
make sure that you visit their, website the nightowlpodcast dot

(02:31):
com and you can get your tickets. There i'm looking
at the website now, again it looks like the vendor
application may still be, opened so if you're also interested
in being a vendor at this, event you can go
to their website find the information about that one more.
Time THE vip passes are sold, out but the all
access pass and the panel pass is, available so there
will be panels. Vendors it's held at The, ballroom which

(02:51):
is a really cool. Bar, again this will Be Halloween.
NIGHT i did This Spirit social last year and it
was so much. Fun it was a great. Turnout everybody
there had such a good, time So i'm very excited
to do that again this year AND i will see
you all. There and speaking of, EVENTS i still have
room available in the month Of, October so if you
are organizing an, event or if you know somebody who,
is feel free to reach out to. Me contact me via,

(03:11):
email my, website social, MEDIA, dms or put me in
contact with whoever you THINK i should be talking. To
speaking of, talking do you all like? Books do you
like talking about? Books, well guess what we are onto
the next iteration of The susto spell Book. Club for
the month Of, august we Read The witches Of El,
paso and in this, month the month Of, september we

(03:31):
are reading a book Called The Trees. Grew BECAUSE i
bled there By Eric. LAROCA i wanted to let the
unify it and pronounce it, laroca BUT i watched an
interview earlier to get the pronunciation and they said. Laroca or,
See i'm doing it, Again they, said. Laraca there you.
Go do you all ever do? That every? TIME i
sometimes WHEN i read, THINGS i read it Hardcore mexican

(03:52):
accent In spanish and THEN i, realize, oh that is
fully An english. Word either, way that is what we're
reading this, month and it is a collection of. Stories
i've seen lots of really great reviews about their. Writing so,
please if you want to join the book, club it
is open for any and everybody to. Join you do
not need to be signed up for. Anything and at
the end of the month we have the public. Discussion

(04:13):
LIKE i, said you don't need to sign up for. Anything,
However patreon subscribers do you get to choose what we,
read and they have access to the book club's discord,
channel so some perks with, that but totally not. Necessary
speaking of things that are not, necessary BUT i still
really like. Them we are continuing on with reading some
comments From. Spotify so this is just a fun way

(04:33):
to interact with the, show AND i like to hear
you all's takes on certain, things or your feedback, maybe
or if you just have a, compliment that's also very much.
Welcome if you're listening On, spotify you scroll down from
the episode page your, player scroll a little bit down
where if you were listening to a, song the lyrics would,
be and there should be a comment section for this.
Episode you can leave comments on individual, episodes SO i

(04:55):
think that's a really fun feature THAT i wanted to
incorporate into the show. Itself if you are An apple,
user sorry that doesn't exist On, apple but you can
always leave a positive rating and review On. APPLE i
think it's a one time thing, only SO i, mean
if you, want if you have something you want to
share in your, review please do. So but for now
we are reading The spotify. Comments so this first comment

(05:17):
is from A Mike ruis on The duendes episode which
just came out two weeks ago, now The Dwends resurrection,
episode And mike, Said, hey totally love you're off the
cuff comment on taxing the. Churches, YES i, agree thank, You.
Mike he continues and, says taxing the churches would automatically
require the government to give them an influence in the
political realm and allow them to speak, on, promote and

(05:38):
push political policy that would be protected by The. Constitution,
remember no taxation without. REPRESENTATION i couldn't, Tell mike if
you were trying to be a little a little sassy with,
me a little. Sarcastic but at this, POINT i feel
like the church already Influences american politics so, much so
why not tax? Them that's kind of the whole. Point
they're literally in there telling their what's what's the word,

(06:00):
parishioners not convent their. COMMUNITY i guess they are telling
their people who to vote for and how to feel
and how to treat other. People so why not just you,
know tex them. Already this next comment is From veronica
on The garita The diablo, episode which is if you
remember it's this kind of, structure like a tower that's
used during battle or wartime where military personnel would kind

(06:22):
of stake. Out it's like like a, HIDEOUT i, guess
but it's usually on the, coast so it overlooks the,
water and they're really, old they're really. Cool people do
tours of. Them And veronica, said, hey tour guide In
Puerto rico over. Here so there is another. Theory apparently
he saw a woman instead of the devil and did
in fact go into the ocean willingly and, naked skinny

(06:43):
dipping for the, devil, right or not for the, devil
but for a woman or an. Entity so if you
don't remember this, story make sure you go listen to.
It i'll link it in the show notes. Below but
also the story is at, this what's the? Word why
CAN'T i think of the word? Army who people that
are in the? Army not a veteran actively Serving oh my, god,

(07:03):
soldier soldier is why COULD i? Not, Anyway so the
story is that this soldier vanished, overnight like he left
his things behind and he was just. Gone and so
the story was that he saw the devil in the
garita in this structure when he was, alone and that
you can hear like music playing because he would play the. Guitar,
OBVIOUSLY i do a better job on the actual, episode

(07:24):
so go listen to that if you haven't heard it
yet or if you don't remember. It but, yeah now
there's this new theory that he did not see the
devil and he actually saw a. Woman SO i wonder
now THIS i feel like ventures into the siren kind of, territory,
right because we have the ocean or a body of,
water and we have a woman drawing this man out,
willingly seemingly, it you, know of his own. Volition so

(07:48):
this is giving siren, now. Right that's very. Interesting and
Then veronica finishes up here by saying he left his
clothes and musket. Behind most stories say they found his
clothes left. Behind that is so. Interesting thank you for
this extra take on this, Story. Ronica, again thank you
so much for the. COMMENTS i am having. Fun i've
always had fun reading them and interacting with them on

(08:11):
the platform, itself but, AGAIN i wanted to incorporate them,
here so feel free to leave your comments on episodes
when you're listening On. Spotify with all of that being,
said we're going to go ahead and get into today's,
episode which you have already seen in the, title and
hopefully future me edited the intro music to sound a
little more. Appropriate today's episode is About UFO's Over Theyoti.

(08:31):
Walkhan before The, spanish before The, aztecs before even our

(08:56):
communal memory, itself there Was theyoti Walk you stand at
the edge of a vast stone, avenue flanked by pyramids
that rise like fossilized. Clouds the air is, dry the
silence is, ancient and the stones beneath your feet blackened with.

(09:16):
Time whisper secrets in a language no one alive can.
Speak this Is Theayoti, wakhan a city built with, purpose with,
precision with, power but by whom we don't. Know The
aztecs found it already. Abandoned they gave it the Name Theyoti,

(09:38):
wakhan the place where gods were. Born they believed it was,
sacred a place where the sun itself was. Created but
the people who built, it their names are, lost their language,
gone their purpose only guessed. At and yet the city.
Remains theotiwakan isn't a random scattering of. Ruins it's a

(10:04):
master work of urban. Planning the avenue of the dead
runs straight through its, heart stretching for. Miles on either.
Side temples and platforms rise in geometric. Harmony at the
north end the pyramid of The, moon in the center
The pyramid of The, sun and to the south The

(10:25):
temple of The Feathered serpent Getzal. Quat these aren't just,
Monuments they are, aligned, measured placed with. Intent some researchers
believe the city was built using a standardized unit of,
measurement a kind of ancient metric. System others point to

(10:45):
the astronomical. Alignments the pyramids line up with The sun on,
solstices with the pleiades With. Venus the entire city may
have been a cosmic, map a mirror of the heavens
etched into the. Earth but why was it a, calendar a, ritual,
stage a, message or something. Else we don't know what

(11:09):
the builders called. Themselves we don't know why they, vanished
and yet the city pulses with. Meaning its layout suggests
a deep understanding of, mathematics, astronomy and. Engineering some believe
it was a city of, priests others a city of.
Warriors some say it was a pilgrimage. Site others whisper

(11:33):
that it was never meant for humans at. All and
then there are those who believe the answers lie not
in the, past but in the, sky Because theotiwakan is
more than a. Ruin it's a, question a riddle carved
in obsidian and. Sun today we are looking at three

(11:54):
stories of people who captured photographs of an answer that
left us with even more. Questions why are unidentified flying
objects visiting this ancient. City june twenty, fifth nineteen ninety,

(12:29):
two the sun was burning high over The valley Of.
Mexico the time was THREE, pm and the ancient city
of Theoti wakan lay quiet. Beneath the weight of centuries
tourists had. Thinned the heat had driven most into, shade
but one man. Remained Baltasar, garcia a solitary photographer known

(12:51):
for his reverence towards, ruins wandered to the southern edge
of the, complex near the temple Of. Quetzaguat he wasn't
there for a. Spectam he was there for, silence for
the kind of stillness that only ancient places can. Offer
but that day the silence felt. Different the birds had gone,

(13:12):
quiet even the. Insects normally a constant hum in the
dry air seemed to. Vanish batasad. Paused he felt it
before he heard, it a, low vibrating, hum like a
distant engine buried beneath the. Earth it wasn't, loud it wasn't,

(13:32):
rhythmic and it wasn't. Natural he looked. Up, there suspended
in the sky was a shape that didn't. Belong it
was the classic flying, saucer, metallic domed and, hovering with
a kind of deliberate stillness that made the air feel.
Heavy it didn't wobble or. Drift it simply hung as if.

(13:56):
Observing batasad raised his camera and took a single. Photograph
the hum grew, louder but not in, volume in. Presence
it was inside, him now in his, chest on his.
Teeth he stepped, forward trying to get, closer but daylight

(14:17):
was beginning to. Fade the object moved, slowly almost, lazily
drifting across the, sky and then without, warning it vanished
into the. Haze the birds, returned the hum stopped back.
Home baltasar developed the. Photo the saucer was, clear, unmistakable

(14:39):
suspended above the ruins like a question etched in. Metal
he showed it to a few. Researchers some dismissed, it
others called it one of the clearest images of A
ufo ever taken Over Theoti Wakhan november, thirteenth two thousand and. FOUR. J.

(15:23):
A scott wasn't the kind of man who chased. Mysteries
he was a business executive From, Monterrey, mexico, educated rational and,
grounded with AN mba and a career in a multinational.
Corporation his life was built on, logic, strategy and. Numbers
but even the most grounded minds can be shaken by
what they see in the. Sky it was a quiet

(15:46):
afternoon in teoti Wa. Gan scott and his wife were
exploring the southern end of the ancient, city near the
temple Of. Getzugwat the sun was beginning to, dip casting
long shadows across the. Stone the air was, still the
kind of stillness that makes you notice things you normally.
Wouldn't that's when he saw. It floating above the, horizon

(16:09):
roughly five to seven miles, away was an. Object it wasn't,
round it wasn't saucer. Shaped it was, polygonal with four
distinct sides and a short tell that flickered in the fading.
Light it moved slowly two. Slowly over the course of forty,
minutes it barely advanced half a. Mile, scott, ever the methodical,

(16:32):
observer reached for his. Camera he zoomed into the maximum
twelve times optical zoom and began taking photos in burst.
Mode twenty four, shots three distinct. Series he captured the
object as it, hovered as it, shifted as it. Lingered
his wife watched. Silently she didn't, speak she didn't. Move

(16:56):
later she would say the air felt, wrong like something
had stirred the. Atmosphere, eventually the object began to blur
into the, dusk and, then just like, that it was.
Gone back. Home he reviewed the. Images in the third,
photo the tell was, visible the shape was. Clear it

(17:17):
wasn't a, bird it wasn't a, plane and it certainly
wasn't a drone because those weren't available for another five.
Years may, fourth twenty. Fifteen the weather was beautiful and

(17:49):
Theoti wakan was. Alive the ancient city buzzed with, tourists
their voices echoing off stone that had stood for. Centuries
vendors shouted over the. Crowd children ran laughing through the,
dust and in the middle of it all stood on.
Hell he wasn't a, historian he wasn't a. Believer he

(18:12):
was just a, traveler, alone quiet and carrying a camera
he hadn't really planned to. Use he had come To
taotiwakan on a, whim drawn by something he couldn't, name
and as he stood before the, pyramid he felt it,
again that strange, pull a. Compulsion he raised his camera

(18:34):
and took a. Photo then he took. Another he didn't know.
Why the light wasn't, perfect the angle wasn't, ideal but
something in him said, now and so he. Clicked, later
when he reviewed the first, image he saw, them two
metallic objects hovering above the, pyramid, smooth, reflective suspended in the,

(18:58):
air like they had always been there On he tried
to reason with, himself considering it could be a number
of many things seen in the, sky things that belonged up,
there but he couldn't rationalize. It when he moved on
to the next. Image seconds later, on he had taken another,
photo and the sky was. Empty no, movement no, blur

(19:21):
no trace of, anything just a clear blue. Sky the
objects had vanished so quickly they couldn't have been anything,
slow not, drifting not, floating not. Falling they had left
with purpose. On he stared at the photos for. Hours
he didn't, Speak he didn't share them right. Away he

(19:43):
just sat in his hotel, room listening to the, silence
feeling the echo of something he couldn't. Explain three, sidings

(20:13):
three moments when the sky opened and something unknown looked.
DOWN a photographer in nineteen ninety, two alone in the,
ruins capturing a metallic shape that hovered in. SILENCE a
businessman and his wife watching a polygonal craft drift slowly
across the. HORIZON a tourist compelled by, something lifting his

(20:35):
camera just in time to catch two silver objects before
they vanished without a. Trace each story is, different each witness,
unique but they all share one. Thing Dyoti, wakan this,
city this, ancient beautiful, city was built with. Intention its
avenues are aligned with the, Stars its pyramids echo celestial.

(20:59):
Rips it's layout may mirror. Constellations and yet we don't
know who built. It we don't know. Why The aztecs
found it already. Abandoned they named it Theyoti, wakan the
place where gods were, Born but the true, architects their
names are, Lost their voices, silent their purpose, unknowable and

(21:22):
maybe that's the. Point Maybe Theoti wakhan wasn't built to be.
Understood maybe it was built to be, felt to be,
witnessed to remind us that there are forces older than
memory itself and questions with answers deeper than human. History
so we, Visit we walk the avenue of the, Dead
we climb the pyramid of the. Sun we stand in

(21:44):
the shadow of the, moon and we look, up because
sometimes when the air is still and the sky is,
clear something is looking. Back welcome, back. Girlfriends thank you

(22:15):
so much for listening to those mini, stories that collection of.
Stories there's a theme this week right to kick off
this month first with THE Suso Spellbook club book selection
for this. Month it is a collection of. Stories this
episode was a collection of stories because with something like
UFOs or UAPs as we are now calling, THEM i

(22:35):
believe is there's no like one. Story AND i know
there are very popular stories that stick out that people
go to time and time, again but there are so many.
INSTANCES i, GOSH i WISH i had thought to ask.
AHEAD i remember my mom actually telling me about something
that she saw growing up on their. Ranch when she
was a. Kid she said that she saw a flying. Saucer,

(22:57):
essentially she saw something metal and that shape in the
sky above the field and she had never seen anything
like it before or since has She so MAYBE i
Will i'll call her And i'll see if we can
get it recorded so THAT i can have it in
a future. Episode but, god we won't get it in
time for this. One so but, yeah there's so many.
Stories so the first and we have several links here

(23:17):
that we want to get. Through so the first kind
of chunks of links that we have, here jeff did
a really cool. Thing thank you so, Much Jeffrey, doyle
our ghost writer and research assistant for putting this together
in this. Way so this first chunk of links is
how cool the pyramids are in, general such as advanced,
engineering alignment with, stars and religious. Significance and this first
one that we have here is From Ancient Engineering. Technologies

(23:41):
the website Is ancient e n G R tech dot
WI sc dot. Edu this is from The department Of
civil And Environmental, engineering and this is on Theoti watcon
and just a quick kind of like overview and history
About theotya Wat gon that it has here is it
says theotya Wat gon was an ancient City Low kee
in Central, mexico which was prominent from one fifty to

(24:03):
six fifty a. D at its, peak the city covered
twenty square kilometers or eight square miles for those of
us not in the metric, system and had a population
of one hundred and fifty thousand. People the city boasts several,
pyramids large architectural, structures and art that influenced Meso american.
Life and, again all direct links for these sources are

(24:24):
in THE Susto google docs On. Patreon but this continues
the history beginning around one fifty A. D an accumulation
of different Meso american ethnic groups congregated to this. Area
they created an irrigation system supplied by spring water and
began constructing large scale. Structures compounds and neighborhoods were formed
based on ethnic. Origins they possessed valuable obsidian deposits and

(24:45):
also traded, cotton, salt cacao feathers and, shells corn, beans squashed, tomato,
avocado prickly, pericactus and chili peppers were farmed on their fertile. Soil,
honestly that sounds like all you need to be, honest
that is a great collection of. Crops says they hunted
rabbit and, deer while dogs In turkey were raised for.
Food crafts and textiles were also created and. Exchanged so

(25:07):
dog Lovers turkey. Lovers, sorry this is just you know
how the culture was kind of how we raised different
animals for. Foods now the, COLLECTIVELY i, know not everybody,
right but this continues that Theotia wakhan religion worships several
gods that were often displayed in their art and. Structures
the spider goddess is thought to be the most important
to Theotia. Wakans other gods that they praised Were Chilchu,

(25:29):
tiqua the water, Goddess La, look the rain and war,
god The old Fire god or the Creator, god And
gets known for agriculture. Renewal they're large military conquered surrounding
territory and expanded to the Theotia wakan presence Through mexico
by six hundred. Ady many structures and works of art were,
destroyed marking the downfall of Theotia. Wakhan the source of

(25:50):
destruction is still, unclear but theories suggest either an external
overthrow or an internal struggle due to scarcity of. Resources city,
layout so this is kind of there's a graphic That
i'll put, up of course in the, video and this
says a unique aspect of the city itself is the
geometrical planning of the buildings and. Complexes the layout can
be described as symmetric and, proportional indicating that a master

(26:12):
plan was used along with a standard unit of. Measure,
yeah and if you look at, it, yeah it's got
that that long stretch that what was it called The
avenue of The, dead and then it's Like Moon, Pyramids Sun,
Pyramid street of The dead. Complex you can tell this was.
Planned this was a planned. Thing it's not just a
group of nomadic people who found someplace and set up

(26:33):
camp and said this is, it and that just kind
of build. Out this was there was some sort of
pen and paper that, happened whatever that may have. Been this.
Continues the structures are aligned with two perpendicular. Axes these
axes intersect at The ciudadella and The Great, compound dividing
the city into. Four most structures have an east west.
Orientation researchers believe this orientation was guided by the stars

(26:56):
and then this wraps up talking about the dayouti wakan measurement.
Unit it says many researchers have proposed what THE theoti
what gon standard unit of measure, was but have not reached.
Consensus the discrepancy could be due to some structures being
planned and measured with the standard unit while others were.
Not all the researchers cannot agree on what the standard
unit of measure, is they do agree on its. Existence

(27:19):
they refer to it as THE. Tmu THAT thetia what
gone measurement. Unit it is believed to be connected to
the relationship between space and. Time that is so like.
Interesting to use time as a form of measurement for
physical structures is like mind blowing to. Me it's such
an interesting. CONCEPT i, mean that's What i'm picking up
from here Right this. Continues some researchers applied fractal analysis

(27:40):
techniques to determine THE. TMU a radar image and aerial
photographs of major structures were used for. Analysis in this,
technique fractals or shapes with irregular and fragmented, patterns which
are considered isotropic and isotropic is same properties in all,
dimensions are used to estimate the fractal dimension of the.
Image from the findings of the FRACTAL inn, analysis the

(28:00):
most probable proportional multiples used in planning were eight and.
Three So, god that's so. Interesting this Is the most
probable proportional multiples used in planning were eight in. Three,
see my brain is just so, like cannot even comprehend.
This CAN i even begin to try and compare it
to something? ELSE i WISH i could to be, like,
okay so if you took like feet, right, like what

(28:20):
would that? Be? Like how many feet would? THAT i don't.
Know this continues to connect space and. TIME a hypothesis
was proposed That theotia wagons adopted the three hundred sixty
five day solar calendar and the two hundred sixty day ritual.
Calendar the two calendars have only one common, divider the number.
Five by dividing the calendar days by, five the numbers

(28:41):
seventy three and fifty two are. Obtained both of these
numbers are known to be. Significant it takes fifty two
years of three hundred and sixty five days to return
to the Same New year's. Date in the two hundred
sixty Day ritual, calendar the number seventy three is known
As Donald booali's number in a cycle of fifty two. Years,
okay if anybody can make any sense of, this if

(29:01):
we have any, history, buffs ancient civilization buffs out. THERE
i need you to please reach out and grab my
hands and talk me through this Because i'm having a
hard time understanding. This this is the last paragraph. Here
it says from here it is assumed that the height
of the pyramid of The sun was seventy THREE tmu
or The wakon measurement, units and the height of the
pyramid of The moon was fifty TWO. Tmu, okay interesting

(29:24):
where it's it's getting connected. Again by dividing the known
heights of the pyramids by these, numbers zero point eight
six three zero and zero point eight zero seven seven are.
Obtained since the actual pyramid heights are only, estimates this
could explain the difference IN tmu. Values the height of
The getzalkuat pyramid has the least uncertainty in its, measurement

(29:45):
and it's proportional to point eighty three. Meters from these,
findings it is proposed that ONE tmu is equivalent to
point eighty three. Meters all of that to say A
tmu it's. Proposed this isn't even, Like, okay this is
what it. Is that thea you is equivalent to two
point eighty three. Meters that is the closest we've gotten
to a possible. Answer that is, AGAIN i need, engineers,

(30:08):
historians ancient civilization, academics, whoever if you are out, THERE
i need you to talk to me and talk to
me about this and help me understand exactly what it all.
MEANS i would love to even have someone that truly understands,
us like an, expert to be on sousto and explain
it to us like we are five years, old because
that is WHAT i. Need that's the level THAT i

(30:29):
need you to talk to me at about. That, okay
we're going to move on to the next. One this
next source is From Archaeology news online magazine and it's
archaeologymag dot. Com this is an entry about archaeologists reveal
astronomical secrets Of Theotya Wakan's pyramid of The. Moon that's
one of the three pyramids that we've heard about so,
far or three of the main. Structures there's permimitdive of
The sun The moon and then The temple Of, getoquat

(30:51):
but this. Says Theotia, wakhan an ancient Meso american city
located in the Theotya Wakon valley Of, mexico is renowned
for its impressive pyramids and unique urban lays, out it.
SAYS a recent study conducted By Ismayer Arturo Montero garcia
from The university Of tepayak in collaboration with The National
school Of anthropology And HISTORY I want To Go, there
suggests that the pyramid of The moon served as the

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astronomical orientation axis of Theoti. Wakan this marks a significant
shift from previous research that primarily focused on the pyramid
of The. Sun according to the, researchers the vertices of
the pyramid of The moon are aligned to the northeast
with the sunrise during the summer solstice and to the
southwest with the sunset during the winter. Solstice this discovery
indicates that the theotia Wa gans intentionally designed the city

(31:36):
to highlight these significant solar. Events quote the volume of
the pyramid of The moon established a proportional relationship with
the perimeter delimination of the. Space Montero garcia, explained he.
Continues this frontality contained the visuals as a longitudinal access
that visually culminated with the facades of the other. Buildings so,

(31:56):
essentially and, HEY i understood all. That i'm gonna explain
it to. You it means that they were placed really.
Cool this. Continues the team found that on the longest
day of the, year the sun rises over The Chihungo,
volcano which functioned as an observatory to calibrate the, calendar
and sets Behind Mani Nole hill to the. West this
alignment underscores that they'll see what gans advanced understanding of

(32:19):
celestial mechanics and their integration of natural landscape features into
their urban. Planning it's so interesting to think about how
these civilizations, were like were masters essentially of astronomy and
geography and engineering like like, again they, were like we've said,
before there were, mathematicians there were, engineers with seemingly such

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little technology compared to what we have. Now AND i
don't want to say. PRIMITIVE i feel like that would
be condescending to call it, primitive but you, know like
there have been so many advancements in, Technology like we
Got Katy perry on the, moon, right but this is
like thinking about what they might have. Had i'm, like
what tools did they? Use like it couldn't have all
been just you, know visualizing it in the, brain or

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maybe it could have who. Knows AND i think that's
why there's such mystery surrounding these people because of the
things that they were able to accomplish with what they
may or may not have had at their disposal compared
to the things that we have, now it's so so
so cool to. Me this continues and this is actually
wrapping up. Here it, says, oh this is a cool.
Title archaeo Astronomer Aaron Guenzalde's Beneath this Of enah noted

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that the city's design replicates the pyramid of the moon's solar,
orientations suggesting a comprehensive urban planning approach based on astronomical.
PRINCIPLES i know That jeff loved this episode because that
boy Plays City. Scapes if anybody has played that, game
let me, know signed off in the comment semi. Message
jeff loves that, game and he also loves the Game.
Civilizations he is on that computer playing those games when

(33:48):
he's not helping me with, this SO i know that
he had a great time putting this. Together this. Continues
this new model challenges the long held belief that the
pyramid of The sun was the primary astronomical marker in Theoti. Wakhan,
instead it posits that the pyramid of The, moon located
at the end of The avenue of The, dead is
the most important structure in this. City, again can you

(34:08):
And i'm gon ask my mom for five dollars and
to sign my permission SLIPS i can go on a
field trip to Daoti wakon BECAUSE i need to see
this whole place. Now the next source that we have
here is from the archaeologist Dot org and this is
an entry called a Secret tunnel found In mexico may
finally solve the mysteries of Theoti. Wacon this is kind
of a lying, thing So i'm going to jump around on.

(34:29):
Here but, again if you want to read the entire,
thing it's the archaeologist Dot org and it, says in
the fall of two thousand and, three a heavy rainstorm
swept through the ruins of Theoti, wacon the pyramid studded
Pre aztec, metropolis thirty miles northeast of present Day Mexico.
City dig sites sloshed over with. WATER a torment of
mud and debris coursed past rows of souvenir stands at
the main. Entrance the grounds of the city's central courtyard

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buckled and broke one, morning Said Kogoma, is an archaeologist
With Mexico's National institute Of anthropology And, history arrived at
work to find a nearly three foot wide sinkhole had
opened at the foot of a large pyramid known as
The temple of The Plumed serpent In Theotya wakhan's southern,
quadrant Which i'm assuming Is katsakwat The Feathered. Serpent this.

(35:12):
Continues my first thought was this is From. Gomez what
exactly AM i looking? At the second, was how exactly
are we going to fix? This this guy is An earth.
Sign he has to. Be i'm gonna see IF i
can find, out because that Is earth sign. Energy is,
like what the fuck is? This how do we fix it?
Immediately but Also i'm sure that's just part of his, job.
Right this. Continues gomez is wiry and, small with pronounced,

(35:34):
cheekbones nicotine stained, fingers and a helmet of dense black
hair that adds a couple of inches to his. Height,
okay he has spent the past three, decades almost all
of his professional, career working in and Around Theoti, wakhan
which one long ago served as a cosmopolitan center of
the Meso american. World, yeah very long, ago it. Says
he is fond of saying that there are few living

(35:54):
humans who know the place as intimately as he. Does
and here's our tour guide for the sustal trip Is.
Gomez this, continues and as far as he was, concerned
there wasn't anything beneath The temple of The Plumed, serpent beyond,
dirt fossils and. Rock gomez fetched a flashlight from his
truck and aimed it into the. Sinkhole nothing only. Darkness
so he tied a line of heavy rope around his,

(36:15):
waist and with several colleagues holding onto the other, end
he descended into the. MERCH i love scientists and archaeologists
BECAUSE i, MEAN i don't, know BUT i feel like
there's so many times where they're literally going into the,
unknown and this is a perfect. Example like that IS i,
think to, me that's HOW i understand their work and
their study is just going into the unknown and trying

(36:36):
to figure something. Out this, Continues he descended down, There
gomez came to rest in the middle of what appeared
to be a man made. Tunnel. QUOTE i could make
out some of the, ceiling he told, me but the
tunnel itself was blocked in both directions by these immense.
Stones in Designing Theoti, wakhan the city's architects had arranged
to the major monuments on a north south, axis with
the so Called avenue of The, dead linking the largest,

(36:58):
structure The temple of the with The cuda de la
the southeasterly courtyard that housed The temple of The Plumed.
Serpent gomez knew that archaeologists had previously discovered a narrow
tunnel underneath The temple of The. Sun he theorized that
he was now looking at a kind of mirror tunnel
leading to a subterranean chamber beneath The temple of The Plumed.
Serpent if he was, correct it would be a find

(37:20):
of stunning, proportions the type of achievement that can make a.
Career the problem, was he told, Me he told this,
writer and, again, sorry this writer IS i don't see a.
Name this is published In september of twenty twenty, Three
i'm looking for a name SO i can. Attribute i'm so.
Sorry i'm, Like i'm trying to find a name SO
i can attribute to who wrote. This but because this
apparently was an, interview But i'm not finding one here
on the, Page so this. Continues the problem was he told,

(37:41):
me you can't just dive in and start tearing up.
Earth you have to have a clear hypothesis and you
have to get. Approval, Okay i'm going to skip to
the end of this because there's a lot here AND
i don't want to just read off everything word for,
Words So i'm going to skip, ahead AND i encourage
all to read this whole, thing because there's a lot
of interesting stuff in. Here but this says wraps up
towards the, end and it Says gomez has one more
crucial task to. Undertake the excavation of three distinct buried

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sub chambers located below the resting place of The figurines
so figurines that they found in, there the final sections
of the tunnel complex as yet. Unexplored Sub scholars speculate
that the elaborate ritual offerings on display, here and the
presence of pyrite and mercury which held known associations with
the supernatural among Ancient, mesomericans provide further evidence that the

(38:25):
buried sub chambers represent the entryway to a particular type of,
underworld the place where the city's ruler departed the world
of the. Living others argue that even the discovery of
the long sought human remains buried in spectacular fashion would
hardly close the book of the mystery Of theotiwakan's. Rulers
whoever is buried here could be just one ruler among,
many perhaps even some other kind of holy. Person For,

(38:47):
gomez the sub, chambers whether they are filled with more
ritual relics or, remains or something entirely, unexpected might be
best understood as a symbolic, tomb a final resting place
for the city's founders Of god's and. MEN a few
months after Leaving, MEXICO i checked in With. Gomez he
was only marginally closer to uncovering the chambers beneath the
end of the. Tunnel his archaeologists were literally often working

(39:09):
with toothbrushes so as to not damage whatever lay, beneath
regardless of what he found at the end of the.
Tunnel once his excavation was, complete he promised me he'd
be satisfied the number of artifacts we've, uncovered he, said,
pausing you could spend a whole career evaluating the. Contents
that is so so. Sick that's so. Cool i'm also
going to try and see IF i can find Mister
womez and see if he's down to talk and up

(39:31):
because this was published in twenty twenty, three so if
you're using a toothbrush to clear the, way maybe in
two years they've made some more. Progress it's been nearly
two years to the, day but It's september twenty twenty
three is when this was. Posted, wow that was. Great.
Okay this next one is from ebsco dot com and
this is Titled pyramids of The sun And moon At

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theothya What, goon and it says The pyramids of The
sun And, moon located in the ancient city Of theotia
What gon in the basin Of, mexico are significant monumental
structures that reflect the city's historical and cultural. Importance Deoti,
wakhan often referred to as The place Where Men Became,
gods was a bustling metropolis from approximately one FIFTY. Bce
to one HUNDRED, ce with a population reaching around ninety.

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Thousand The pyramid of The, sun completed around one twenty FIVE,
ce stands at two hundred and twelve feet tall and
is notable for its impressive construction, techniques including the use
of a natural cavern beneath its, base which held deep cultural.
Significance The pyramid of The, moon which predates The Sun,
pyramid likely served as a burial site for key figures
in Theotia wakan's. History and so actually on this, One

(40:37):
i'm going to scroll down to the significance of this.
Entry there's literally a portion titled, significance and this says
The street of The dead or The avenue of The
dead that we talked about that goes through the center
of Deothia wakhan was ultimately expanded some seventy five to
one hundred years after completion of The Sun pyramid in
one twenty FIVE. Ce much of the construction that occurred
in the earliest years of the metropolis centered on The

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street of The dead and the civic ceremonial heart of the,
city most closely associated with the monuments of The sun And.
Moon not until the period extending from one fifty to
two twenty FIVE ce were residential compounds built beyond the
civic ceremonial core of Deoti. Wakhan during the course of
the next several, centuries Theothia wakan's, political, commercial and military

(41:19):
might and prestige grew by leaps and, bounds and its
wide ranging influence was felt in many of the major
Meso american. Cities The Talu tablero architectural tradition that is
argued to have originated in two HUNDRED, ce was soon
thereafter adopted in major urban centers and outposts of Theotia
wakhan found Throughout. Mesoamerica in six FIFTY, ce the palatial

(41:40):
estates bordering The street of The dead and the towering
monuments of The sun And moon were reduced to ruin
in a conflagration that ultimately claimed the lives of a
number of the most, prominent powerful and elite overlords of
the ancient metropolis Of Theoti. Wakhan, Okay so this next
set of links that we have here is ABOUT ufo
sidings In theotheola and surrounding. Areas this first one is

(42:03):
From nomanzone dot com and it's TITLED ufo sidings In.
Mexico this is published actually In march of this, year
so really. Cool the first, one it's kind of like
so and again this is just a list of several of.
Them this first one Is Mexico City ECLIPSE ufo, siding
a landmark event IN ufo encounters In. Mexico On july,
eleventh nineteen ninety, one during a total solar, eclipse thousands

(42:26):
of residents In Mexico city turned their i skyward to
witness the celestial. Event amidst the, awe numerous individuals reported
observing a metallic disc shaped object hovering in the. Sky
this incident has become one of the most well DOCUMENTED
ufo sidings In, mexico captivating both the public and. Researchers
the sighting occurred as the moon obscured the, sun plunging

(42:47):
the city into temporary. Darkness is this the same? One
it may be a different. One so if you'll remember
the episode THAT i did On Estefania Gutierrez, lasol which
was the inspiration for the Movie, veronica where she was,
POSSESSED i know it's in the, movie BUT i can't
remember if it was in the actual. Story they reported
it that because it was in nineteen ninety one that

(43:08):
all of this happened with. Her there was an eclipse
in the movie when they were playing with The ouiji,
board and So i'm, like was it this same one
this same? Day, OKAY i can't. Remember i'm going to
put a link in the show notes for, that but,
YEAH i can't remember if the timelines line, up BECAUSE
i know that some sources say in nineteen ninety some

(43:28):
say nineteen ninety. One but in the movie they played
with The wigi board during an eclipse and that, Happened
SO i don't. KNOW i wonder if this is connected
in any way possible anyway this. Continues skeptics have proposed
that the object might have been the Planet, venus which
was visible during the. Eclipse, however proponents argue that the
objects hovering behavior and sudden accelerations are inconsistent with celestial bodies.

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Appearances the sheer volume of eyewitness, accounts combined with video,
evidence lends significant weight to the authenticity of the. Siding
this event marked the beginning of the prolonged wave OF
ufo sidings Across, mexico with numerous reports emerging in the
subsequent months and. Years the nineteen ninety One Mexico city.
ECLIPSE ufo siding remains a pivotal case in the study

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OF ufo sidings In, mexico symbolizing the nation's ongoing intrigue
with The unexplained aerial phenomena OR. Uap this next one
Says GUYAMA ufo incident a puzzling chapter IN ufo sidings In.
Mexico On august twenty, fifth nineteen seventy, four an event Near, Kuyama,
chihuahua added a mysterious chapter TO ufo sidings In. Mexico that,
evening a small civilian aircraft departed At, Baso, texas heading. South,

(44:34):
SIMULTANEOUSLY us radar detected an unidentified object moving at approximately
two thousand miles per hour over The gulf Of, mexico
which then altered course Toward. Gyame both the plane and
the unidentified object disappeared from radar screens around the same.
Time the following, Morning mexican authorities initiated a search. Operation
they discovered the wreckage of the small, plane which was heavily. Damaged,

(44:56):
nearby they reportedly found an intact disc shaped craft approximately
sixteen feet in. Diameter The mexican military is said to
have secured the area and transported the unidentified craft to
a base In. Ohinaga according to accounts compiled by Researchers
Noe thores And Rubin, URIATA us agencies had been monitoring
the situation via intercepted. Communications When mexican forces, declined officers

(45:19):
of ASSISTANCE us personnel allegedly observed from a. Distance subsequent
reports indicated that All mexican soldiers involved in the recovery
died under unclear. Circumstances WHAT us operatives then purportedly, intervened
retrieving the disc and transporting it to a secure facility
within The United. States skeptics question the veracity of these,
claims citing a lack of concrete evidence and official. Documentation

(45:42):
some suggest that the incident may have involved a clandestine
drug smuggling operation rather than extraterrestrial. Activity, nevertheless The goyama
incident remains a topic of intrigue and debate AMONG ufote
enthusiasts and. Researchers this detail about them dying in unclear.
Circumstances i'm very curious about that because this is just

(46:02):
suddenly and of seemingly natural, causes where they violent. Deaths
did it look like they were they were killed versus
they just died or you, Know i'm very curious about
what that. Means we'll move on to the next. One
it Says Mexican Air FORCE ufo incident a notable event
IN ufo shidings In. Mexico On march, fifth two thousand and,
four during a routine drug surveillance mission Over Gumpecha, State

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Mexican Air force pilots encountered an unusual. Phenomenon while flying
at an altitude of approximately eleven five hundred, feet the
crew detected eleven bright objects on their infrared. Equipment these
objects were not visible to the naked, eye but were
clearly captured on THE ir, camera appearing to maneuver at
high speeds and. Altitudes and there's a screenshot here of the,

(46:47):
Video like why wouldn't the actual video be? Here IF
i can find the, Video i'm going to put it
in here for The patreon. Video but there's a screenshot
here that will be putting in for either. Way so
there's there's six bright lights and they're all kind of
just like in a. Line, anyway say this. Continues The
Defense department In mexico released the footage On may, twelve
two thousand, four marking a rare instance of military acknowledgment

(47:07):
of such. Encounters the video displayed luminous objects moving, rapidly
sometimes appearing to surround the. Aircraft the pilots reported feeling
unnerved by the, experience adding to the gravity of the.
Situation skeptics have proposed alternative explanations for the. Siding one
prevalent theory suggests that THE ir camera captured burn off
flares from offshore oil platforms in The gulf Of. Mexico

(47:28):
these flares can produce intense heat signatures detectable by infrared,
equipment potentially accounting for the observed. Phenomena, additionally the movement
of the, aircraft combined with the stationary nature of the,
flares could create an illusion of. Motion despite these, explanations
The Mexican Air FORCE ufo incident remains a significant case
in the study OF ufo sidings In. Mexico the combination
of military, involvement infrared, evidence and official disclosure continues to

(47:51):
intrigue researchers and enthusiasts alike whether the objects were extraterrestrial
crafts or misidentified earthly phenomena of the incident underscores the
complexities and challenges inherent in studying unidentified aerial. Phenomena, yeah
it is really interesting that a government entity would release
something like, that which you know recently has happened where,
government THE us government at least has been, like, yeah

(48:13):
they're out, there we're kind of looking into. It but even,
THEN i feel, like how do they make that decision
of which, piece which pieces of evidence or which what
documentation about this phenomena do we put out? There do
we release do we get to the? PUBLIC i want to, know,
like what is that decision making based on what does
it look? Like and the last one here is Depost
lan encounters a persistent phenomenon IN ufo sidings And. Mexico

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this has nestled in the mountains Of. Morellos the town
Of deppostlan stands out as a focal point FOR ufo
sidings And. Mexico this picturesque, location officially recognized As Pueblo,
mexico draws attention not only for its cultural, richness but
also for the frequency of unexplained aerial activity reported in the.
Area it says for, decades residents and visitors have described

(48:57):
sidings of mysterious lights and unusual crowd moving across the.
Sky On june twenty, fifth nineteen ninety, two this is
when we spoke about photographer about The Sarda garcia captured
an image of a SUPPOSED ufo over the ancient ruins
of Taoti wakan near the Deppost lan, region And i'll
put that picture up. Here researchers have included this photo
in several, compilations reinforcing the area's reputation for strange aerial.

(49:18):
Events the town's mystique deepens with its spiritual, landmarks including
The Deposteco, pyramid a mountaintop temple honoring The aztec god De.
Postecat many enthusiasts believe the region spiritual energy and elevated
terrain extract extraterrestrial. Visitors local eyewitnesses have consistently shared detailed,
accounts and some have managed to photograph unexplained objects in

(49:40):
the sky that Post lan continues to draw, researchers, travelers
and skywatchers looking for. Answers its unique combination of, folklore historical,
depth and recurring sightings has cemented its status as one
of the most prominent sits in the study OF ufo
sidings In, mexico and then they have there's a video
that they link to hear from. YouTube it's Called Mexico's Mysterious,
Aid Alien, Town Spiritual hub OR Ufo. Magnet but BECAUSE

(50:04):
i feel like this conversation, HAPPENS i have had this
conversation with many. People is THERE i feel, like maybe
not all the, time but at some point there is
a crossover between what we would identify as paranormal or
spiritual and. Extraterrestrial SO i think ghosts and, ALIENS i
think THEY'RE i think they can connect at certain, points

(50:26):
maybe the technologies and the physics that extraterrestrial or alien
civilizations or. CULTURES i think that they have. Access i'm
getting real woo. Here The Red string is coming all
coming out all over the. Place BUT i feel like
aliens can also be like interdimensional. Creatures BUT i also, think, well,
yeah that's kind of what spirits are sometimes is they're

(50:48):
they're interdimensional creatures that don't exist on the same plane
that we, do at least not all the. Time SO
i don't. Know, again The Red string it's about to come.
Out i'm gonna look Like charlie From It's Always sunday In.
Philadelphia and with that move on to the next. Link
SO i have two links here that have of course
we just mentioned about The satas, photo so good segue
is there's Also Ja scott's photo That i'm gonna put up,

(51:09):
here but just to kind of describe it to you
if you are not watching the, video is it's it's
a square image and on like the bottom you can
see it's the top of a tree line and it
just goes up from left to. Right the tree kind
of like takes over more of the space on the right,
side and in the center of it it looks. Tiny
it's like it looks like a tiny thing in this.
Picture but then they have a zoomed in part of.

(51:29):
It it kind of looks like a. Squid there's this
maybe not, blob but it looks kind of like a
triangle and then a tail underneath. It so to, me
it's giving or. Jellyfish it's got that kind of. Shape
but that doesn't look like a natural thing that you would.
See it could be a, balloon but this is so
far away and in the zoomed in, picture like you

(51:51):
would not see a balloon's string like you were seeing
in this, Photo like you can even in the really
zoomed up part of, it you can see a. Tail
and so a balloon would not look like that from
that far. Away you wouldn't see the. Tell you would
maybe barely even see the balloon. Itself but that's not a.
PHOTO i do want to. Say, also this is a
really good. Photo it's again square And i'll use these
for the social media images as. Well but like there's

(52:12):
a bunch of clouds in the top right of. It
it is like a you THINK. Ufo it is that classic.
Shape it is that saucer with like the dome in the.
Center it's dark underneath. It you can tell kind of
looks reflective on the, top but the underneath is all
like kind of. Black it's covered in, shadow, right but
it's just like CLASSIC ufo. Image and it is kind
of blurry and fuzzy because it's from ninety, two but

(52:33):
it's also like a very clear. Image it looks. MASSIVE
i wonder how close he was when he took this.
Photo and then there's also a link here to angels
or on his story that WAS i think the third
story in the episode, Today but it's actually a link
to an episode Of Ancient, aliens Which i'm not sure
HOW i feel about. Them it's to me it's weird

(52:54):
to be, like there's no way that these people were
this smart and this capable and they could do these.
Things it had to Be. Aliens that feels off to,
me AND i know it feels off to a lot
of other. People but they do feature On he's. Story
so if you're curious in watching, it it's an episode
Of Ancient aliens and it starts at minute thirty, nine

(53:16):
and this is season, twelve episode, Seven Ancient, Aliens city
of The, gods which is all about The Dealthy. Wagon who,
knows we might do A susto movie night for. This
it's been a while since we've had A system movie,
night so this could be fun to, Watch like how
long is This it's like forty some, minutes so that
would be. FUN i think maybe sus a movie night.
Watch and it's on The roku, channel is, yeah where
we found, it but, Yeah Ancient, Aliens season, twelve episode,

(53:39):
Seven city of The. Gods minute thirty nine is where
on his story comes up and we're gonna move on
to the last couple of links that we have. Here
so this is talking ABOUT ufo acknowledgments From mexico's. Government
this is. Hilarious so this first one is FROM NPRS
mpr dot org and this is published in twenty twenty,
three and it says a, ufoologist how do you, say

(54:00):
is IT, ufo, ufologist? UITHOLOGIST a ufologist claims to show
two alien corpses To Mexico's. CONGRESS i remember when this went.
Viral it looks like. This it's allegedly remains of this
quote non human being that were displayed during a. Briefing
the pictures up here in the. Video i'll put it
on social media, too but you all have to remember

(54:21):
when this, happened because it just looks super like, secle
like this little dried out. Creature it could very well
be made of clay or mud or, something but allegedly
these are alien. Remains AND i, Remember, god people were
just making jokes about this left and right when it,
happened it, says and the hearing started with a huge.
Surprise him And, mauson a self described, ufologist brought two
caskets into the congressional. Chambers, okay so maybe not a government,

(54:44):
representative but someone who is presenting to the. Government how
do you get to that level to show This this.
Continues As mauson, spoke two men uncovered the caskets to
reveal two. Bodies the corpses looked white and like stereotypical
depictions of aliens big, head little, body three. Fingers jahan
said they were found In peru in twenty seventeen and
are estimated to be one thousand years. Old one of

(55:06):
the bodies had been. Pregnant he claimed these are not.
Mummies he, said these are complete bodies that have not been.
Manipulated speaking under, Oath mausan claimed the bodies were non.
Human mausan and others have presented similar claims about alleged
alien remains in the. Past scientists have dismissed them as
either Ancient peruvian mummies or manipulated. Mummies During tuesday's, hearing

(55:26):
Jose Dee Jessus Zake, benitas a forensic expert and a military,
doctor walked The congress through scans of the alleged alien.
Bodies he claimed the alleged aliens had big brains and big,
eyes which allowed for a wide stereoscopic, vision and they lacked,
teeth so they likely only drank and did not. Chew
the hearing also included remarks By Ryan, graves executive director

(55:48):
of The americans For Safe Aerospace. ORGANIZATION a Former navy fighter,
Pilot graves was one of THREE us veterans who testified
in front of a U S congressional subcommittee investigating the
existence of UFOs In. July Mexico's congress also has shown
videos Of mexican pilots struggling to make sense of fast
moving flying objects before. Them we are not, Alone malson.

(56:09):
Claimed On, wednesday the day after the, Hearing graves distanced
himself from it any post on x Formerly, twitter he
said he accepted The Mexican congress's invitation hoping to keep
up the momentum of government interest in pilot experiences with
unidentified anomalous phenomena OR. Uap, unfortunately yesterday's demonstration was a
huge step backwards for his. Issue for this, issue he,

(56:30):
wrote my testimony centered on sharing my experience and THE
uap REPORTS i hear from commercial and military aircrew through
ASA's witness. PROGRAM i will continue to raise awareness OF
uap as an urgent matter of aerospace, safety national, security and,
science BUT i am deeply disappointed by this unsubstantiated. Stunt
it's so there's just so many loose ends to, this

(56:51):
like how do you end up with, two not, one
but two alien, bodies one of which was pregnant since twenty,
seventeen and it's it's just been kept a secret since,
then and then suddenly you, Decide, HEY i know what to.
Do we'll bring them out to the. Public we will
physically bring them out to the, public not even whistleblow

(57:11):
it or talk about it or post about, it, videos,
photos and then have you, know the bodies for later
like further. Proof but to just be, like, well why
don't we ask the audience here they? ARE i think
THAT'S i don't, Know, hey but what DO i. KNOW
i am not a ufologist or a government official by any.
Means this next link that we have here is From
Al jazeera Dot. Com it Says mexico legislators hold hearing

(57:33):
on existence of UFOs shown alien. Bodies. Again it is
the same kind of thing that we just looked at right,
now but from a different, perspective this Says mexican congressman
Said koguthieta said he hoped the hearing on UFOs was
the first of other similar events In, mexico Says mexican
legislators her testimony regarding the possibility that extraterrestrials might, exist
and we're presented with the alleged remains of non human

(57:53):
beings in an extraordinary hearing marking the country's first congressional
event on aliens and. UFOs in the hearing On, tuesday
and politicians were shown to artifacts that A mexican journalist
and longtime ufoie, Enthusiast Jima mauson claimed were the remains of.
Extraterrestrials it's interesting the monikers that people are given based
on who's posting. Them because ON mpr they, well they

(58:14):
did say he was a self PROCLAIMED i think they
said self proclaimed. Ufologist on here they said that he
is a journalist and A ufo. ENTHUSIAST a little bit
more about the bodies, here it Says mausan said they
were recovered In peru near the Ancient Nasca lines in twenty.
Seventeen he said that they were about a thousand years
old according to carbon dating analysis By Mexico's National Autonomous.
University so these things were understudy, again But i'm, like

(58:38):
how is The mexican government just being presented these if
they've been studied by, UNIVERSITY i don't. KNOW i just
feel LIKE i don't. Know maybe they just really did
a great job keeping it a secret and saying we
are going to do our own study before the government
steps in and just swoops in and takes everything away from.
Us this says that same those same people that did
the carbon Dating yunam they said On. Thursday it says
that they published a statement first issued in twenty seventeen

(58:59):
saying the work by Its National laboratory Of Mass spectrometry
with accelerators was only intended to determine the age of the.
Samples quote in no case do we make conclusions about
the origin of said. Samples so they were, like we
just dated. It we're not saying what it, is where it's.
From this. Continues the apparently desiccated bodies date back to
twenty seventeen and were found deep underground in the Sandy

(59:20):
peruvian coastal desert Of. Nasca the area is known for
gigantic enigmatic figures scraped into the earth and seen only
from bird's eye. View most attribute The nasca lines to
ancient indigenous, communities but the formations have captured the imaginations of,
Many this, Says oh, yeah in twenty, seventeen yes, see
and this is What i'm, Saying so this, continues it.
Says in twenty, Seventeen mausan made similar claims about non

(59:41):
human remains In, peru and a report by the country's
prosecutor's office found that the bodies were actually quote recently
manufactured dolls which have been covered with a mixture of
paper and synthetic glue to simulate the presence of. Skin
but it does not simulate the presence of, skin, because
LIKE i, said it looks like it's made out of
clay or mud or something like that is like a

(01:00:02):
Fun halloween activity that you do with a classroom of
students or SOMETHING i don't, Know like that does not look,
organic even like for like a, decomposed, mummified petrified whatever it,
is it doesn't look like it was once. Organic SO
i guess essentially they ended up debunking, this it. Says
the report added that the figures were almost certainly human
made and that they quote are not remains of ancestral

(01:00:22):
aliens that they have tried to. Present the bodies were
not publicly unveiled In peru at the, time so it
is unclear if they were the same as those presented
To Mexico's congress On. Tuesday interesting the, session unprecedented in
The Mexican, congress comes two months after a similar one
before THE Us congress in which a FORMER Us Air
force intelligence officer claimed his country has probably been aware
of non human activity since the nineteen. Thirties, see that

(01:00:43):
is the thing is if a government is, involved the
government already. KNOWS i don't think they're being presented this
information as new or if they, were like it's going
to be kept a secret for however many, years this
was since the nineteen, thirties allegedly in THE, us even
if people have for decades for the same amount of
time also beenating and talking about, it the government is
never going to let you in on what they, know

(01:01:04):
at least not at. First. Okay and the last one
that we have, here and this ONE i think we
mentioned earlier about The Mexican Air force when the pilots
were in the air with and they saw those lines
and this is from this is FROM abc dot net
DOT Au Mexico Air force video CREATES ufo. Stir WHEN
i was going through that list. Earlier of all the

(01:01:24):
different sidings In, mexico this is about one that was on.
There it says The Mexican Air force has released footage
of what A ufo expert said where eleven unidentified flying.
Objects in this IMAGE i see went to the, three, four, five,
SIX i see seven of, them but it says that
there were eleven picked up by an infrared camera as
they whizzed around a surveillance. Plane longtime believer in flying,
saucers Journalist Hymen malson here he is, again told a

(01:01:47):
news conference On tuesday the objects were real and seemed
intelligent after they at one point changed direction and surrounded
the plane chasing. Them, quote they were invisible to the,
eye but they were. There there's no doubt about. It
they had, masks they had energy and the moving, about he.
Said after showing a fifteen minute, video he said The
Defense ministry gave him permission to. Publicize, okay NOW i
really am questioning the validity of that photo and this

(01:02:10):
video because AGAIN i don't think that The Defense ministry
would just give someone permission to share a. VIDEO i
think that they would show up and show it themselves
and have a representative an official representative and, SAY i
am from The Defense. MINISTRY i am from The Mexican Air.
Force we are officially sharing this with the. Public not
we're giving it to this journalist and uifologist OR ufo,
enthusiast depending on how you ask to share with the.

(01:02:32):
Public this. Continues The ministry confirmed To reuters it had
provided the, video filmed by The Air force On march,
fifth over the eastern coastal state Of. Campeche SO i
guess it. DID i don't. KNOW i GUESS i just
don't know how anything works in the. Government they really
just had it. Over that's. Hilarious it, says, quote we
are not. Alone this is so. Weird one of the
pilots can be heard yelling after the plane's crew switched

(01:02:55):
on an infrared camera to track the objects first picked
up by. Radar see, THAT i believe. THAT i am
more inclined to believe now because this videos if, again
if it's, real if it's. Authentic hearing these pilots like
reacting to, This, yeah that's. Strange there's something. Happening there's
something with, you it. Says the, film recorded by a
plane looking for drugs trafficking near The gulf Of mexico
shows eleven objects as blobs of light that hover information

(01:03:16):
or dart, about sometimes disappearing into. CLOUD i will posit
is that the right word or present a different theory
is BECAUSE i saw another video recently that reminded me
of how people talk about bruchas In mexico and how
they can transform and travel as balls of fire or
balls of. Light now we're coming all the way, Back
we're circling back to spiritually paranormal and. Supernatural and what

(01:03:37):
if it wasn't UAPs or. UFOs what if it was
bruchas flying around in the. Sky because their balls of,
light their tangent, direction fire its. Heat, again as we heard,
earlier in these ir, cameras these infrared, cameras they can
pick up high heat. Signatures could be That i'm just say,
Ying it could be one of my sisters up. There this.
Continues mexico's most popular nightly news broadcast showed the video

(01:03:57):
On monday. Night interviewed by Mister mauson and another section
of the, video the pilots said they grew nervous when the,
objects still, invisible turned back during a chase and surrounded the. Plane.
Quote there was a moment when the screens showed they
were behind, us to the left and in front of.
Us it was at this point THAT i felt a bit,
tense Said Major. Magdaleno, Castanon mexico has a long history

(01:04:19):
of FANCIFUL ufo, sidings most of which are dismissed by
scientists as space, debris, missiles weather, balloons natural weather, phenomena or.
Hoaxes very, INTERESTING i don't KNOW i want to. Believe welcome,

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