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January 30, 2025 45 mins

Today, we're sharing an episode of Nonprofit Nation, a podcast by Julia Campbell, a digital marketing and fundraising expert, nonprofit consultant, and author. On Nonprofit Nation, Julia sits down with nonprofit industry experts and practitioners to get advice on the best ways to build a thriving movement and a vibrant, passionate community around a cause.


In this episode, Julia chats with Tamsen Webster, a message strategist, author, and keynote speaker. Together, they dive into practical tips for driving meaningful, lasting change and discuss Tamsen’s latest book, Say What They Can’t Unhear: The 9 Principles of Lasting Change.


If you like what you hear today, don't forget to follow this link to subscribe and listen to more episodes: nonprofitnation.buzzsprout.com


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