251: Coding Talk with Jesse Grosjean

This week’s guest is Jesse Grosjean, an independent developer known for WriteRoom, TaskPaper and a love of plain text. He joins Brett to talk coding, coffee, and board games.

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• twitter/@jessegrossjean
• WriteRoom
• TaskPaper
• FoldingText
• Rob Trew
  – @ComplexPoint
  – GitHub/RobTrew
• Rust
• Swift
• Notion
• Quip

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   • Carcassonne (no longer available)
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   • Crema.co

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Transcript

Jesse

[00:00:00] Brett:My guest this week is Jesse Grosjean, an independent developer. How’s it going, Jessie?

Jesse:Oh, good. Thanks for having me.

Brett:Uh, you were last on in 2012. That is so long ago.

Jesse:Yeah. Yeah. Um, it, I been programming ever since, although over time it seems like I programmed slower and slower, but that’s what I do.

Brett:Is that just part of aging or are you becoming more careful in your, in your older years?

Jesse:I don’t know. I think it’s, it’s part of, I have lots of fun programming and I learn more over time and I sort of, I think I get I’m Mo it at the moment. I’m more into like making my programs pretty and data structures and things. Not that I’m a super great person at that, but yeah. Uh, I don’t know. I’m very deep.

Like, I, I can tell you the story of my last few years and it all [00:01:00] started out with all right, let’s see how to search a bunch of files. And now I’m like four years or three years into Russ programming and parallel programming and all this stuff. And it was all just to search a few files.

Brett:Oh boy. Um, I have this habit, like I’ll start out a project with what I consider to be like a good. Bait like object. I don’t know what you call when you map out what properties and what objects and how everything’s going to interact. And then it gets out of hand so quickly. It’s I start adding too many properties and too many controllers.

And, uh, my, my apps after a year ended up being unmanageable and I ended up having to start over.

Jesse:Yeah. And I, for, for me, especially recently, I mean, I certainly have that problem. And what I do is I start over continuously and especially if I get stuck on something, my, my desktop is scattered with junk mail, junk, junk, junk, junk, junk, junk, all these little. [00:02:00] Junk things, trying to get all the mess out of the way.

So I can actually figure out the massive, my existing program out of the way. So I can figure out what this one little attribute does or something. But, uh, it, I, at the moment I keep on going deeper and deeper into probably stupid. I don’t know. I just let’s see if we can reinvent this, you know, but it is fun and i