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Anu Hernandez (00:00):
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All right.
Hello, amazing humans.
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Thank you so much for being heretoday.
Welcome to the Systems ofTransformation Podcast, a
podcast dedicated to discussingthe dynamics of generational
healing and globaltransformation through a
trauma-informed lens and aChristian perspective.
I know Those are a lot ofdifferent words put together in
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one sentence, but I promise thatI will take my time over the
next few episodes to reallyexplain what each of those terms
mean to me and why I ampassionate about them.
I am your host, Anu Hernandez, afellow human being who also
happens to be an author, atrauma informed social worker,
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and a Christian.
Why Anu?
Do you wanna start this podcastright now in 2023?
Well, let me tell you.
For years and years, and when Isay years, I mean decades.
I have had this growing desireto combine my academic knowledge
in psychology, my professionalexperience as a social worker,
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I've even been a teacher, mypersonal faith as a Christian
and see how I could use all thatto be a voice of healing and
hope in this world.
I just felt that, God, if youhave given me these
opportunities and you haveblessed me with this exposure,
there has to be a greaterpurpose than me acquiring all of
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this and applying it in a waythat benefits me.
So here we are today and this iswhat we're doing.
I think this is the perfect timefor me to do this because I am
smack dab in the middle ofseveral generations right now on
either side of that spectrum, Iam close to 40 years old and I'm
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not a teenager or a 20something.
I have lived some life.
I have learned a lot of lessonsand.
I think those intentionalinvestments that I have made in
myself with the Lord along theway has really helped me open
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myself up, one, not only to Him,but to myself and to other
people.
There is nothing that I lovemore than being able to connect
with people who are older thanme and also younger than me.
I have learned so much frombeing able to spend time with
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people of different cultures,races, ages, stages, oh my
goodness, I could go on.
Just the diversity that thislife has blessed me with.
So taking all of that and withthis mindset of there has to be
a greater purpose for this, wefind ourselves here today.
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Systems of Transformation wasoriginally supposed to be my
second book.
I had planned it all out and Iwill tell you a little story.
Almost 15 years ago, I was maybe21 or 22 at that time.
I don't remember exactly theage, but I remember at that time
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wanting to write somethingcalled The Culture of
Convenience, and it would be areflection or a processing of my
exposure and experiences at thattime in my life, or adding up to
when I had lived about 20something years and just the
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different things I observed inthe world and the world around
me, my culture, and I had a lotof thoughts, a lot of emotions.
I was a fiery idealist, right?
Who hung onto these ideals, butI hadn't walked enough life to
process a lot of that stuff on adeeper level and, find the
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healthier, what's the word I'mlooking for?
The healthier perspective.
Let's use that word.
Okay.
I'm glad that God did not let mewrite that book at that time.
And, He walked me through allthese years in between to teach
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me some more lessons, some moredepth, and also the ability to
learn vocabulary in order to beable to deliver it in a way that
is loving and transformative andnot something that vindictive or
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reactive.
So anyways, towards the end of2022, I was still very much
trying to decide whether I wasgoing to do this as a book
series or set it aside and moveon to other things.
And I definitely felt a strongsense from God that I'm supposed
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to do this as a podcast for afew reasons.
One, because I think it's a funway for me to explore another
type of creative expression.
And two, I know that we are in atime and a season where there
are so many voices in the world,and while I'm not saying that my
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voice is the voice, I definitelyfeel more empowered to be one of
the voices that exist in thisworld.
I made that decision to takethat leap into the podcasting
world, which by the way, I amfiguring out as I go.
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I have been in a veryconcentrated intense period of
about two or three weeks tryingto learn things, trying to
understand software, listeningto other podcasts about how to
start a podcast and reallyinvest in this and enjoy the
process because I think so manytimes we put this pressure on
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ourselves for our creativeexpressions to hit these certain
markers, right?
And sure, I believe in producinggood quality content, however,
my coach had told me,"done isbetter than perfect".
And for a healing perfectionistthat is very liberating and also
terrifying.
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I really want this podcast to bea descriptive journey between us
and not a prescriptive lecture.
I'm not here to tell you whatyou should and shouldn't do.
This is a blessing for me.
I don't take this lightly, and Ihave learned that just sharing
without an agenda is moreimpactful than sitting someone
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down and lecturing them andtelling them what to do and what
not to do.
And so I'm here to share.
Hopefully through me openingmyself up and just letting you
into my world and sharing withyou some of the things that I
have learned through all thesedifferent places, we can be on
this journey of healing andtransformation together.
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I really want this podcast toalso feel like a time of attuned
connection and when I sayattuned, I mean that we are
present, that we are listening.
And this is something I havelearned as well for myself over
the last couple of decades, isthe things that heal are so
simple for the most part andthey're free.
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They don't cost you money.
Attunement, just being presentand focused and truly engaging
in this time of connection is sotransformative to the process of
wanting to evolve as a person.
And that is my hope that we feelconnected and we process, we
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discover, we heal, we growtogether.
Because while this is me sittingand talking today, I know that
over time this is going tobecome an interactive space.
I am again learning how to dothat and I don't want to be just
a voice going off into thedistance, right?
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I want to hear from you.
I want to be included in yourworld and your process in
whatever way we're able to dothat.
And if you throw in some coffee,I promise you I will cancel all
my plans for my day.
And I will be there with you, Iwish hanging out could be an
official profession, like Iwould quit my job and do that
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for a living.
But anyways, connection, whetherverbal or nonverbal, are some of
the most healing, powerful,potent agents in the world.
And I firmly believe that Godhas called us as human beings to
create spaces to hold thepresence of one another, just
like we do with Him, He wants usto do that for one another.
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So why should I listen to thispodcast Anu?
Let me tell you, these are mythoughts.
These are just my thoughts, butI'm sharing them with you.
I think this podcast might be agreat place for you to be if you
are somebody who is already in aposition of influence and you
already lead others in somecapacity, and I will definitely
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go into this in further detailin future episodes.
If you are someone who is readyto invest in your own personal
healing journey, because youknow there are some things that
you need to work through, yousense that you are carrying some
things that weigh you down orhold you back from who you truly
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see yourself being, I think thisis a great place for you.
Again, not that I have all theanswers for you, but maybe
something that I share orsomething that somebody else
says will be that little sparkfor you to say, you know what?
I'm gonna try this.
I don't know where to start, butmaybe I'll start with this.
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If you are curious or interestedin a faith-based trauma informed
perspective.
That is also something that weare definitely going to be
digging into a lot and using asa framework of how we approach
this whole thing.
I do wanna say you do not haveto be a Christian to be welcome
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here.
I am not going into this with a,religious or a Christian agenda.
As a Christian, I am not goingto walk this journey with the
notion or the pride that somehowI have figured this all out and
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you need to listen to me becauseyou don't know what you're
doing.
I have learned some of my mostvaluable lessons from people who
don't practice my faith.
I know because of my own journeyhow personal faith is.
Nobody could have convinced meto believe what I believe.
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Nobody could have lectured meinto practicing this faith the
way I do.
And so I am deeply respectful ofdifferent perspectives and
people who come from differentwalks of life.
And so I just wanna say that youare welcome no matter what.
Also, if you were someone whowould like to see how my
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creative journey as a podcasterevolves because I am doing this
in real time with you, thismight be a great place for you
because again, I think a lot ofus have so much within us, but
we're so scared to take thatfirst step because it is scary.
It is out of our comfort zone.
It is unfamiliar and it willquestion every core belief that
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you carry about yourself,whether it is conscious,
subconscious, unconscious.
So I just want to invite you tobe a part of this to see the
mistakes that I make to give mefeedback if you want to, to pour
into my journey and take from mywhole process.
That's the best way I could putit.
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It's just if you want to be apart of this and see that, hey,
I could do this too.
If she's doing it with all thesemistakes and all these little
glitches and she's learning anddoing her thing, I can do it
too.
And that's what I want.
I want people to walk away fromthis with that sense of I can do
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this.
So anyways, there are plenty ofreasons why I think this podcast
would be a cool place for you tohang out, but again, I want you
to trust your intuition and yoursense of knowing about whether
this feels like a good place foryou to invest your time and
energy, because those areprecious commodities and I do
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not want to take them forgranted.
While this podcast might betherapeutic, while it might be
fun and healing and beneficial,it is definitely not therapy and
it is not a substitute fortherapy.
I am not a therapist.
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I am trained in differentthings, but I am here to just
share as a human.
And so if things come up, youknow what?
I'm not even gonna say If, whenthings begin to come up for you
as you are part of this process,I highly encourage you to reach
out to an actual trained mentalhealth professional or a
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spiritual mentor, or afaith-based leader who is doing
this as a professional, for morepersonalized ongoing care.
There are some things that youare going to need to have that
one-on-one time with somebody tohelp you process and navigate.
So I'm just telling you thatupfront again because I know if
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this is going to be an effectivepodcast, things are going to
come up.
And I remember reading this in abook a while ago and it was so
beautifully put,'that in thepresence of safety, all our
struggles bubble to thesurface'.
I'm not going to be that personthat says, I am a safe person
and trust me on day one.
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No, take your time.
Take your time.
It is wise to take your time tobuild your trust in someone.
However, do not be surprised ifyou start to feel things come up
for you because that means thatthis space is holding you well
enough for you to startaddressing some of those things,
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which is only going to lead, toyou becoming a healthier person,
a more healed person, and foryou to begin witnessing your own
transformation, which is goingto be so encouraging and so
joyful, and hopefully you willturn that around and pass it on
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to someone else.
And that is the essence oftransformation.
So what are we gonna talk abouttoday?
I feel like I've said a lotalready.
However, there's a couple ofthings I wanted to answer, a
couple of questions.
So question number one, you maybe thinking how is generational
healing connected to globaltransformation?
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When we say the word generation,the first thing we think about
or lean towards is a morefamilial definition of it.
We think of generations in termsof the family system.
However, I have come to realizethat there are so many different
places in our lives where we arepartaking of this generational
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exchange.
Some of those placesare, yes,within the family, but I see
that within the faith communityor any type of belief system, so
much of our professionaldevelopment, organizational
development, everything flows ingenerations, right?
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Our education systems.
So many different systems in theworld follow that pattern of
generational exchange.
Macro level, global change isonly successful and sustainable
if it begins on some type of amicro personal level.
It is easier to replicate.
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It's like saying, it's easierfor a hundred people to do 1% of
the job than one person tryingto do a hundred percent of the
job.
So if each of us recognize andidentify these different systems
that we are in this generationaldynamic of exchanging, of giving
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and receiving, of, sowing andreaping, of being a part of, and
then leaving, or things likethat.
And, if we are able to recognizethat, the people and the things
that we are connected to are theones that we are supposed to
utilize as catalysts fortransformation, the more
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effective, more successful andsustainable is the
transformation of this world.
We are in a time where theLord's heart is really for the
healing of the masses and thecrowds.
And for that, it requires eachof us to do our generational
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work so that we can share in adescriptive way with other
people to encourage them andspread that message of hope,
healing and transformationaround the world.
I have a quote here from LeoTolstoy, everybody wants to
change the world, but nobodythinks about changing
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themselves".
The secret sauce oftransformation is how willing am
I to transform myself?
Not talk about transformation asa concept to everybody else
first, before I practice it formyself because who you become,
who you evolve to be, theprocess that you walk through,
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speaks volumes, speaks way moreloudly to people than you
sitting them down and tellingthem the equation of how to go
from here to there.
The temptation has been and iseven for me to think that
transformation is out there whenreally it has to begin in here.
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We may think that, well, if Icould just speak to 150 people,
isn't that more impactful thanme changing in private, when no
one's watching, doing theunglamorous work.
And yes, sometimes, for somepeople, at some points in your
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journey, you are going to havethat, but those are your
highlight reels.
There's so much groundwork thatneeds to be done behind the
scenes, and a lot of people arenot willing to do that.
And so one of the big reasonswhy I want to talk about systems
of transformation is to hold usaccountable, myself included,
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that at the end of the day, thebulk of the work is what I'm
doing within me.
It is a descriptive journey thatI am taking with myself before I
go out there and share withother people.
My next question; why a traumainformed lens and a Christian
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perspective?
We all have origins that haveshaped us.
all of us come from somewhere.
We all have origin stories, andone thing I have recognized is
that we all carry some type ofpain, some type of trauma,
things that have happened to us.
We carry good and bad, the hardstuff, the easy stuff, the
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joyful stuff, the painful stuff.
The place that I see most peoplehesitant to investigate are
those places of pain in ourorigin stories.
A lot of us had to use thosecoping mechanisms to survive.
And so we find ourselves todayin a space and a place of our
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lives where some of those thingsdon't serve us well right now
but we don't know any other wayto operate.
We don't know any other way tobe.
And pain I have found is theunifying human factor.
Everybody has gone throughsomething.
I think of pain as a levelingfactor for humanity, and so no
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matter the differences, and Ihave spent a lot of my life
talking to people, listening topeople's stories, and I have
come to recognize that everybodycarries some type of wounding,
some type of pain that they wentthrough that life has thrown at
them, or someone did to them, orsometimes even that they did to
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themselves, all in this attemptto survive, to make it to where
we are today.
But to transform, to go fromsurvival to thriving, there are
some things that need to beuntangled, investigated, healed,
and set aside so that we cantake on new things, new forms of
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being, new ways of operating, sothat we can step into this new
place.
It is such a great blessing tolive in this day and age because
even though as human beings weare complex, we are, within
ourselves a complex, interactivemultisystemic system.
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We have also been blessed withknowledge, skill, awareness.
People have really studied humanbeings and to a great extent, we
have been understood anddissected.
And so we are complex, but wealso have predictable patterns
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of behavior and expression thatcome to fruition or life based
on the underlying factors of ourlives.
One of the greatest longings wehave is to be understood.
So let's lean into that, allthis hard work that other people
have put in, into researchingand understanding and studying
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and, creating language andexpression for, is at our
disposal and benefit to becometransformed people.
And so that is why I think it isimportant for us to understand
trauma, to understand how itworks, to understand its effects
on us, and also bring thatmessage of hope that you don't
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have to live under the grip oftrauma.
There are some concepts that wewill be talking about in maybe
episode two or three where Iwill talk about systems of
origin, systems of compensation,and systems of transformation.
Why a Christian perspective?
There is no way I can do thispodcast or talk to you about my
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transformation without talkingto you about the God that I
believe in.
Faith has not only provided me ahigher power, but it has given
me a person who is stronger thanme, wiser than me, more loving
than I will ever be.
And when I talk about faith, I'mtalking about Christianity.
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I'm talking about Jesus.
I am a Christian who believes inJesus, and I believe in him as a
person.
We always walk around, I think,as Christians saying that the
experience of Jesus needs to bea personal relationship, and I
am very, very aware of the factthat a lot of times Christianity
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is practiced, like there'snothing personal.
It doesn't feel personal at all.
It feels monotonous, it feelsvery rigid, it feels very
crystallized with no room forpersonal expression and
relationship, and I am hoping tojust, again, welcome you into my
journey because for me, I amfully aware of the fact that I
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would not be who I am today andbe able to do any of these
things without the consistentinvestment of God pouring into
my life, of Him showing up forme as this perfect template and
blueprint, for me to practiceand work myself out, while He
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was just there.
Even this morning, when Iprayed, I told the Lord, there
is nobody in this world who hasshown up for me day in and day
out for the past 37, 38 yearsother than Him.
I am so respectful of the faithjourney and I know everybody's
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on their different paths, but Icannot go without presenting to
you this amazing person that Iknow and that I believe in, and
that shows up for me every dayand pours into me and loves me
and any good thing that you see,any transformation that you see
in me, cuz a lot of people seeme today.
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Some of you know me for a coupleyears.
Some of you know me for a coupleof decades.
Some of you are just meeting meand hearing me for the first
time.
But I think the people.
that were a part of my origin,are the ones that can testify to
the transformation of me.
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I was not this person, and I'llsay that right now.
I was not this person who daredto sit in front of a microphone
and share my thoughts andfeelings and opinions and you
know, that was not me.
I know the insecurities that Istruggle with.
I know the pain that I haveendured.
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I know the things that I had todo and say to survive, and I'm
also aware that God knows all ofthat and He is still chosen to
stay with me, speak to me, loveme and walk this journey with
me.
A lot of what I do, a lot ofgood that you might see in me, a
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lot of ways that I interact withpeople are simply me taking how
God has been with me and then mereplicating it with human
beings.
To be honest, for the most part,I am amazed that it is so simple
and so profound at the sametime, God is and will be a n
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integral part of this for me,and I hope that I can present
this in a loving, respectfulmanner that represents Him well.
I'm at a loss of words.
I just want Him to berepresented well, and if I can
do that and if I can be anexpression of His love in this
world, then I am going to dothat.
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Am I nervous and scared?
Yes.
But this is where His commitmentand His loyalty and love for me
outweighs my fears.
The Bible says perfect lovecasts out fear.
And if there's anybody that hasexperienced that in this
lifetime, it is me.
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I think this is a good place tostop today.
Thank you so much for listening,for wanting to be a part of
this.
I love you and respect you, andI can't wait to walk more of
this journey with you.
If you want to connect with me,there are a few places you can
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find me.
I am on Instagram at@therealAnuHernandez I am also on
Facebook at AnuHernandez Mybook, But Jesus is available
online at Amazon, Barnes andNoble and WestBow Press.
So these are some places thatyou can connect with me,
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connection is prime for me.
I am still trying to figure outhow frequent and often I could
put out episodes.
I'm hoping to do one in a coupleof weeks.
So we'll start there and we willsee how this goes.
All right, everyone.
Have a wonderful blessed day,week.
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Until then, let's healgenerational and transform
global.
Bye.