Episode 05 - Qualities of a System of Transformation: Part II - The Willing Dismantling

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In Episode 05  we are going to discuss why a System Of Transformation willingly dismantles itself in the short term in order to be sustained in the long term. 

• Quality 02 - The Willingness Factor 
• Healing - As painful as your wounding 
• Blockages to Dismantling - Tradition & Disconnection 

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Anu (00:00):
Well, well, well guess who's back! Should I continue?
Keep going with that song.
Okay.
I will spare you the solorapping career that I have given

(00:22):
up to pursue podcasting butsomeday, you might just hear an
original composition.
Welcome back to the Systems OfTransformation podcast.
A podcast that is dedicated tothe dynamics of generational
healing and globaltransformation through a trauma
informed lens and a Christianperspective.

(00:45):
I am your host, Anu Hernandez,and I am back after an
unexpected, but well, utilizedbreak.
Tonight just in the process oftrying to set up for this
session I got smacked in theface with my microphone.
My headphones wouldn't work.

(01:07):
Actually when I plugged in mymicrophone, it wouldn't turn on.
And I thought that was the endof my podcasting career.
I tried a bunch of different USBcables.
And I was like, well, I guessfour episodes, is it.
But I said, my prayers.
I was about to give up y'all Iwas about to give up and the

(01:28):
green light literally turned on.
Maybe there's a lesson in that.
Who knows.
You know, God works inmysterious ways and through
mysterious lights.
So I'm paying attention.
God, I'm paying attention.
We've been through some stuffalready.
Any who?
We are recording tonight.

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It is a Friday night.
And I am at home and spending itwith all of you.
While I have been incubating,there has been so much internal
growth.
I had to work through some verydeep, personal core beliefs,
navigate through a lot ofdecision-making and my own

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personal growth and evolutionwhich very interestingly goes
with today's episode.
Today, we're going to look atthe second quality that I think
is a characteristic of a truesystem of transformation.
A system of transformationwillingly dismantles itself in
the short term in order to besustained in the long term.

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Usually when I'm talking abouttransformation, I'm talking
about the healthy evolution of asystem.
There are many types oftransformative journeys, but
healthy transformation rests onour willingness to partner with
that transformative process.
There are many times when weanticipate transformation and

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there are also times when theyjust come out of the blue and
they're unexpected.
And so whether they areconstructive or destructive,
there are some that justnaturally occur.
And then there are some forms oftransformation that are
conscious decisions that we makeand we choose to embark on.
A crucial factor in this wholeepisode is going to be the

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'willingness factor', of asystem to dismantle itself
consciously and yield to thatprocess instead of resisting it.
True transformation is not aquick fix to challenges.
It is a generational mark ofchange.
So, no matter what type or whatnature of transformative

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catalyst you have.
I think the willingness to thenpartner with that process
determines the health andsuccess of that transformative
journey.
When you are taking apart someof the things that you had going
a certain way or who you are andhow you've been, that season is

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going to require an investmentof your time, of your energy and
also the sacrifice of denialbecause you are going to start
sensing and coming to terms,with some things that were
unconscious or that weren'tready to surface yet.
When you take something andapply it to yourself and then
actually sit down to get to workand see how this is going to

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then assimilate into your lifeit takes a lot of energy.
Your needs that come up, whetherit is a need to rest more.
Whether it is a need to reducethe amount of stimulation and
socialization that you havegoing on that season.
I'm going to encourage you to doit with love and care for
yourself and not be impatient orashamed of the amount of

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investment that you seem torequire.
You are such a worthyinvestment.
Like for me, the last month anda half, I had to sleep longer
hours.
And I am a person who pridesmyself of waking up at 3:30 in
the morning to go to the gym andworkout.
I had to willingly dismantle theflow that I had, the routine

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that I was used to and theintensity that I was moving in,
to pay attention to what myseason was asking of me.
Which was to slow down and topossibly set some things aside
at a very unexpected time.
And I struggled with that alittle bit.
Because I thought I had such agood thing going but it almost

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came to a point where Iunderstood that if i'm going to
honor this next surge ofinternal growth, some of the
external things have to be putto rest for a little bit I
didn't know what I was settingaside temporarily what I was
setting aside permanently and itwas confusing for me.

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My body was tired a lot, I hadto invest in those extra hours
of rest and modify my workoutroutine to honor that.
As frustrating as it was for me,I knew that that was what needed
to be done.
When you are going through aseason of dismantling, you are
definitely going to require timeto privately incubate.

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Like I said, I've been in anincubation season and so you,
are going to need time toincubate which really is time
alone in solitude.
And it's the same for a systemas well.
An organization or a systemmight have been working a
certain way and when you hitthese milestones of transition

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and growth, and when you startworking on the piece of
dismantling, you are going tohave to slow down maybe stop
doing certain things the waythey were done and you may not
have the same intensity anddynamic movement or output as
you have always had in the pastseason or the season leading up

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to this moment and that's okayand that's expected.
On some days, your healing isgoing to feel as painful as
you're wounding.
Anybody that's had any type of acut or an injury or a broken
bone.
You know that resetting it andrecovering from that injury, no
matter how tiny it is, even apaper cut.

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Sometimes the healing process ofthat feels as painful or more
painful than that originalwounding.
And a lot of times we don't giveourselves enough time and grace
to walk through that healingprocess.
I know it's very difficult.
There are days when I have askedmyself.
Is that even worth it going on ahealing journey because it is as

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painful as the things that havewounded me.
A lot of times I see peopletrying to move through an
emotion with the cognition andthat doesn't work.
Because if you're sad you haveto feel that sadness.
You can't just say well I'm sadin an attempt to acknowledge
that you have that emotion ofsadness but it is also a refusal

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to feel that emotion.
Or I am angry and the awarenessis wonderful, but are you using
that awareness to shut down theemotion and discredit or deny
yourself that permission to walkthrough feeling it.
Because you're afraid or youdon't know how to handle it or

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no one's ever shown you how towalk through feeling that.
The next part of this episode isgoing to address some of the
things that block us fromwillingly dismantling ourselves.
And a couple of factors that Ihave thought of already are
tradition and disconnection, andwe will discuss them a little

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more in detail right now.
Let's look at tradition.
A very common notion oftradition is that we have always
done things this way.
Or when it comes to speaking orthinking about oneself, saying
things like,"Well, this is justwho I am and this is how it's
always been, and this is howI've always been.

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And so I don't really see onethe need to change or two not
sure how to even begin thisprocess of change." So a lot of
times tradition is chosen overtransformation instead of
prioritizing transformation overmaintaining tradition.

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The question I will pose tonightis are we willing to look at
traditions and practicesperiodically to examine whether
they serve us well.
Whether they serve one, thepurpose of the system that we're
trying to preserve.
And two, are these practicesgenuinely and authentically

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connecting us with one anotherand helping us to thrive in this
system.
Or are they just there in placeout of comfort and familiarity?
And breeding dysfunction but wejust keep them around because
that's all we know.
This can be a very trickyblockage to address because I am

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not ever going to advocate fordisrespect of the past or our
histories, but we need to beable to work towards a future by
embracing certain changes in thepresent.
And letting go of things fromthe past or letting go of things

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that don't serve as wellcurrently doesn't have to be
bad.
One of the things I am learningin my life is sometimes you'll
let go of good things.
It doesn't mean that they arebad things or bad people or bad
practices.
It just means that maybe theirtime is up.
And if you want to make room forthe next thing in your life, you

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have to take an honest look andtake an honest inventory of the
practices and the perspectivesand the people that we have
traditionally just allowed to bearound us and impact these
systems, and start to filter outthe things that don't serve, or

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create and contribute towardstransformation.
That is the only way to change,that is the only way to
transform.
So this doesn't apply to asystem that is comfortable In
where it is right now.
This is really for the peopleand the systems that want to

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embrace transformation.
If you are happy and contentwith how things are then do not
feel pressured to implement someof these things.
But if you are feeling that urgeand that intuitive
discontentment, then I will askyou to consider some of these

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things.
The next blockage that I want todiscuss today is the blockage of
disconnection.
There are such greatdisconnection between different
components in a system.
There's no real conversation,communication and understanding
between parts of a system.
A lot of systems launch intochange movements or

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transformative practices withouthaving that round table
conference with all the piecesthat have to change.
I have also seen where, becausea lot of our styles of
organizations are top down,decisions are made blindly at
the higher levels without everconnecting with the so-called

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and I'm saying this in quotes,lower level components of that
system.
And there is a very chaoticprocess that emerges because the
pieces of that system are nottalking to one another or
certain pieces don't feel theneed to hear from the ones that
are actually going to beimplementing those changes and

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derive feedback to thenimplement into the broader
transformative process of thesystem.
And the disadvantage of makingchanges that way is that when
you are not in sync with or indialogue with the parts of the
system that are actually goingto be affected by some of these

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changes, it can lead to a senseof feeling unheard undervalued
and like there is a loss of thepotential of having an impact,
just because you find yourselfon this side of that spectrum.
Are we willing to haveconversations and receive input?

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From all that are at a table inorder to create something that
represents the future andevolution of a system?
Are we willing to create thosespaces to have safe
conversations when we aredismantling?
It doesn't mean that we have totake everybody's input and try

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to implement everything thateveryone says.
But hearing people out,validating their perspective,
considering that they are theones impacted by the changes
that are being made is crucialto the buy in for the willing
dismantling of a system in theshort term in order to sustain

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it long-term.
While the next generation maycarry the energy and innovative
creative force fortransformation, it is the
previous generation'sresponsibility to bless that in
the next generation, especiallywhen it doesn't directly benefit
them.
And this goes back to my beliefsystem that a successful

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generation is always looking towork themselves out of the
business so that the nextgeneration can come in and take
over and run it beautifully andthrive as they ought to, and
pass on that legacy.
To me that is courtesy respect,and honor, which is a huge

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component of how I relate in anytype of relationship or any type
of endeavor to bring intransformation.
Even in my own life, in certainspheres, I am in those
positions.
And it is very crucial for methat when I am implementing
changes, I am speaking to thosethat are directly impacted by

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those changes I haven't done itperfectly.
Sometimes I have totally messedthings up.
I have been reactive and spokenunkindly to people.
But I'm trying to return andrectify those moments because
human beings are precious.

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And I want them to understandthat if I have hurt them, if I
have made them feel like they'reless than, or who they are in
this world is somehow beneathme, then I will do everything I
can to make sure that they knowthat I made that mistake and
that I am taking ownership formy part to contributing to the

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dysfunction.
But ownership is very importantto me.
Especially when it is comingfrom the so-called previous
generation, elders, leaders,anybody that positions themself
in a seat of authority.
Because it's easy in theory tosit down and say"Well let's just
change A, B and C." But it issomebody else or someone else or

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something else in that systemthat is actually going to be
practically affected by thesedecisions And so, Functioning
from a place of, You better,listen to what I am saying
because I am the authorityfigure and your feedback is not
welcome, your anxieties and yourfears of how this change is

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going to impact your daily lifeis invalid for some reason." I
think that is very cruel andvery unkind and inconsiderate of
the fact that systems are madeof people and these are real
lives that we are impacting.
And so many organizationsunfortunately thrive out of the

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exploitation of the people thatare working for them, who are
actually giving their energy andheart and lives and souls to
seeing these visions come tolife and fruition.
And it's very disturbing that wewant to create products and
programs that serve the largercommunity but we are unwilling

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to look at the people directlyimpacted, the middle men and
women.
Remember to c onnect in thoseseasons of dismantling whether
it is within yourself whether itis in a family system, an
organizational system or acultural system.

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Conversation and connection isvery very crucial to the success
of this quality oftransformation.
Okay, I think I havepassionately presented my
perspective on today's qualityand this brings us to the end of
our time together today.

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Thank you so much for tuning in,listening and being a part of
this community.
I appreciate you.
I am so thankful that you wouldtake time and energy to spend
with me this evening.
And I am looking forward to usconnecting again in our next

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episode, where we will look atthe next quality of a system of
transformation.
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And so I would love toincorporate what I am receiving
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Until then, heal generationaland transform global.

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Bye.