November 5, 2023 • 29 mins
Its the Season Finale :)
In Episode 08 we are going to talk about the importance of a System Of Transformation learning to equally prioritize wellbeing and productivity.
- Quality 05 - The Scales of Transformation
- The delicate dance of balancing wellbeing and productivity
- A common fear of balancing the scales of transformation
- Displacing the equilibrium of traditional methods
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Anu (00:01):
Welcome to the systems of transformation podcast, a
podcast that is dedicated to thedynamics of generational healing
and global transformation.
Through a trauma informed lensand a Christian perspective.
I am your host, Anu Hernandezand welcome to episode eight.
The final episode of season one.
(00:23):
I can't believe that we'rerecording this final episode.
I call today's episode thescales of transformation,
because as I was brainstorming,I really wanted to leave
something impactful to end ourseason with, and also a concept
that's kind of been brewing inmy heart for the whole season
(00:46):
really, and I think it's reallyimportant to look at factors
that influence the outcomes oftransformation and things that
are really important to thelong-term sustainability of
healthy, beautifultransformative change in this
world.
If you have been following alongthrough this season, you know,
(01:10):
that we've been doing a seriescalled the qualities of a system
of transformation.
And so today we're going to lookat the last quality that I think
is important when a system istrying to embrace transformation
and set itself up forsustainable transformative
capacities.
(01:31):
Today's quality reads, a systemof transformation welcomes the
humanity of its members andequally prioritizes wellbeing
and productivity.
While I believe thatprioritizing wellbeing and
productivity equally isessential for the longterm
sustainability of atransformative system.
(01:53):
I do advocate for carefulconsideration of looking at what
real balance is and what realbalance means for the equality
of prioritizing wellbeing andproductivity.
I do understand that there areseasons in a system's evolution
and transformation where alittle bit of rebalancing is
(02:17):
required.
And that is totally okay.
And in fact, I would say yes,with careful consideration, make
those adjustments so that youcan healthily match the season
or the sub season oftransformation that you are in.
During crisis or unexpectedtransformation, you may have to
(02:40):
change your focus on priorities.
When we're going through theseunexpected seasons of change, it
is important to prioritizewellbeing over productivity.
If I was injured and if I neededcritical care, then that is not
my time to focus on output,efficiency and productivity.
(03:04):
At that point in time, I need tomake sure that I am stabilized
and supported.
And if I were to consider myselfa worthy investment, then I am
going to look at that so-calledproductivity as what is being
put into me to help me recoverfrom this unexpected hit that I
(03:25):
have taken.
So productivity mighttemporarily seem like it's going
out of the window, but reallyproductivity is going into
stabilizing who I am.
We need to set aside some ofthese things so that we can take
this time to heal, repair, makesure everyone's doing well.
(03:46):
Even if it's just me as anindividual, am I doing okay?
Like, what do I need right nowto recoup?
So that then I can get up and dowhat I need to do again.
Let's go back to that example ofif somebody is in the ICU or
they're ill and at home, theyneed time to rest.
(04:06):
You are not going to asksomebody who has just injured
themselves, broken something,been through surgery to get up
and go run a marathon or get upand go do something that's high
endurance and, achieve thesegreat outward expressions of
success when they need to bereally focusing on their
(04:27):
recovery and wellbeing.
It's the same thing with anytype of system.
On this journey of longtermsustainable transformation,
there will be times when we takethese hits.
When it's important to look atourselves and our people, if we
are leaders and in charge of agroup of people, to prioritize
their wellbeing.
(04:47):
You may be scared.
I understand it is scary to setaside some of these things and
focus on the people because theheart says, well, if we do this
now, then we're just going to bestagnant.
We're going to lose progress.
We're not going to hit thesegoals that we have.
But it's like, if I were to takethat person in the hospital and
(05:07):
throw them out on the street andtell them, go do all this, like
build a house, run a marathon,go hike this mountain.
Can you imagine the disasterthat would result from that?
Not only will they not heal,they will cause themselves more
damage.
And then neither are they goingto achieve those goals and those
tasks that we have given them toaccomplish.
(05:32):
At the end of it, it's a doubleloss.
So I would rather you take thattime to focus on the wellbeing
of your people and streamlinesome of these things so that we
have that time to process heal,recover, go to therapy, go to
support groups, something,something that helps you get
(05:53):
through this season of crisisand unexpected change.
Once you have worked your waythrough that crisis.
Once you have stabilized.
Once you have taken care of thewellbeing of people involved, I
do believe that it is okay thento make sure that you are
revisiting and rebalancing,because we are coming together
(06:15):
to achieve some type of afocused outcome or goal.
It is not unrealistic or unkindat that point to prioritize
productivity as your firstpriority and let wellbeing take
an equal or maybe a second placefor short periods of time.
(06:36):
This is more of when, you know,there is that goal that you need
to get done when there is adeadline, when there are these
little spurts of intense focus,right?
That is totally okay to thensay, right now for the next
week, maybe for the next twoweeks, we got to push real hard.
We have to make these changesbecause everybody seems to have
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some type of stability andhealth right now and you're
doing okay, so let's use ourcollective wellbeing and push to
achieve this goal that we havein mind.
We inherently as human beingslove to apply ourselves to
certain missions and visions andsee that we can make a change,
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see that we can help buildsomething or create some type of
a growth surge.
It's really nice when you havethese seasons of intense focus.
I remember when I wrote my book.
I could write for up to like sixhours straight.
That was not somethingsustainable, but there were
(07:44):
those short spurts when I wasable to do that, there were
those few weeks where I wouldhave such a creative flow that I
could literally sit down andwrite for like a whole day
taking breaks in the middle, ofcourse.
That's something that I can'treally do all the time, but I
know that when it came to thatseason of saying, I have this
book that I want to write, andif I just sit down and apply
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myself very focused, notneglecting my wellbeing but
prioritizing achieving this goaland the productivity of my
outcomes right now.
I can then in a short period oftime, set that aside and go back
to looking at my wellbeing againand rebalance that scale out.
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In those seasons of highproductivity, where you do need
to focus more on producingresults.
If you are somebody who hastaken the time to cater to the
wellbeing of yourself and thoseinvolved when you needed to, you
can then rest in the confidenceand the assurance that people
can invest themselves in thesespurts of growth and
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productivity that is required toachieve some of your vision and
mission.
If I was somebody that gotinjured and I took the time to
heal the broken bones and thewounds that I have endured
through whatever has happened tome, then I get to go to maybe
intense physiotherapy, intenserehabilitation.
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And over time, if I continue todo that, I get stronger.
I get more efficient.
Once this becomes commonpractice, it's almost like the
place that I was injured has nowbecome the place of my strength.
Then we do not just achieve ourgoals and our missions and
visions, we also take our peoplewith us.
(09:34):
We're not losing the humanresources we have to achieve our
dreams, visions and goals, butwe're able to balance both of
them out because we don't wantto lose one for the other.
Sometimes I do think we need totake away productivity to enjoy
good moments.
(09:54):
I think about an organizationthat may be use working towards
this huge event or goal, right.
And you achieve it and you do itwell.
Are we taking time to thencreate those moments of
celebration and coming togetherand really showing people that
positive focus is also apriority.
(10:15):
And not just yay we hit thisgoal.
Okay move on to the next thing.
Let's go.
Can we make that a part of ourcultures where we say, we
achieved this now let's gocelebrate this.
Let's go take time to enjoy thefruits of our labor together.
If this is something individualand personal, can you sit and
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enjoy or go out and do somethingand celebrate for yourself the
recognition of what you havejust achieved?
We're not good at that.
I am not good at that.
I've had to work really hard onmyself to sit in the good
moments and enjoy my growth andnot just buzz past it and say,
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okay, I'm done with that.
Now let me look at the nextthing.
What's next.
I think we need more of that inour culture.
Not an overindulgence, but justa good moment of recognition
where we can come together andrecognize what it is that we
have just transformed.
Now I would like to talk about avery common fear and perhaps a
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misunderstanding of thisperspective of balancing the
scales of transformation.
I'm trying to work this outmyself because what I don't want
to do is unintentionally createmore chaos that is damaging and
detrimental to a system.
But I also don't want to justfocus on control and
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productivity to where we arelosing the human component of
compassion, celebration and acoming together for collective
healing and wellbeing.
You cannot in the long run havejust one of them.
I know it's such a delicatebalance of learning to care for
each one of these components,while moving forward in this
(12:07):
process of transformation.
Recently I was trying to studythe components of compassion and
empathy and the role ofcompassion and empathy in
leadership and I found thesebeautiful definitions somewhere.
Give me a minute, let me go findit.
And then we'll continue.
I found it.
So compassion.
Compassion is an emotionalresponse to empathy or sympathy
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and a desire to help.
Empathy is the awareness ofother people's emotions in an
attempt to understand how theyfeel.
So empathy is an awareness.
It is a cognitive state ofrelationship where you are able
to be aware of other people'semotions and you attempt to
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understand how they feel andyou're able to make this
emotional connection ofcompassion and so you're able to
connect and help the otherperson.
The problem is when we equatecompassion to permissiveness or
vulnerability to weakness.
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Because then we have lostrelational equity with the
people that we are working with,living with doing life with or
coming together to achieve thesecreative communal goals and set
intentions of transformation.
And this is where I encourage usas human beings, in places and
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spaces where we're expected tobe the examples to really
understand the differencesbetween being compassionate and
being permissive.
Okay, so compassion again, wetalked about compassion being
this ability to respond in ahuman emotional way with the
desire to connect and help.
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But that doesn't mean that ifyou do that, you have to be
permissive and allow there to bea lack of accountability or a
lack of productivity.
That is a very difficult anddelicate balance, but it is
necessary for healthytransformation.
If we take the time to createthis culture of transformation
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and create this time to reallystudy, implement and care for
these scales of transformation,that when you have done this and
it has become a habit and acommon practice in the system
that you are involved in, youcan eventually hit kind of
stable maintenance mode, whereyou have recognized and
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understood how to balance thesetwo components of wellbeing and
productivity and keep itrelatively equal.
Once you hit that rhythm andonce it becomes ingrained into
the culture of both beingprioritized and cared for
appropriately in due seasons,people begin to kind of relax
(15:07):
into that.
So then they don't mind goingthrough seasons of intense work
and productivity or intenseseasons of making sure things
are happening, goals are metbecause they know that when they
hit those moments of crisis,whether they're unexpected or
(15:28):
they're just a byproduct ofthese intense seasons of
productivity.
They know that.
There are measures in place,there are safety nets in place
and the people in charge of themprioritize their wellbeing.
When people can drop theirdefenses and replace fear with
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that security of knowing thatthey're cared for, I really
think any system is going toface it's highest productivity
and healthiest longevity andreally.
see not just its people, but theentity of that system thrive.
And isn't that what we wanttransformation to look like?
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A longterm thriving group ofpeople coming together to create
this wonderful, impactful changein our world.
This brings me back to thefoundation verse of my life.
So I would like to read thispassage to you.
It's just a couple of verses andtie it in with what we're
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talking about today.
Matthew 22 verses 37 to 39.
Jesus answered him.
Love the Lord, your God, withevery passion of your heart.
With all the energy of yourbeing and with every thought
that is within you.
This is the great and supremecommandment.
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And the second is like in itsimportance.
You must love your friend in thesame way you love yourself.
I read that from The PassionTranslation What I'm trying to
say in all of this is it comesback to my belief that if we, as
human beings ought to learn thehealthy transformative way to
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love, we have to learn it fromGod.
God is the perfect template andblueprint of perfect love.
And it is only through ourinteraction and relationship
with him that we are going tolearn what true, perfect,
eternal, divine love is supposedto look like and how it
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interacts and applies itself andmanifests in this earth.
God teaches us that.
There is no way we are going togenerate this as a human race by
ourselves.
To an extent.
Yes.
God created us in his image andwe are his children.
And so of course there arecomponents in us that are
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naturally wired like him andyes, we can generate love to a
certain extent.
But it will be imperfect andflawed and.
I would rather submit myself andstay in continued connection
with the divine perfect sourceof love so I can learn more and
more from him and apply that tomyself.
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So that then with this lovingrelationship that I have with
God, because to me.
God he's not an abstractconcept.
He's not a distant fairy tale.
He's a living, breathinginteracting force and and a
being who is there continuouslyin my life and in the lives of
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all of us.
And wants to have thatrelationship with us so that he
can love us.
You know, I read in the Biblethat while we were yet sinners,
God loved us.
So he loved us even before weknew him, recognized him or
acknowledged him, valued him.
Wanted to have a relationshipwith him.
So that love is always there.
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Once we get into that place ofsaying, I think I want to be a
part of this relationshipbecause I experience love when I
am with you.
And we build this intimate,loving relationship with him and
we let him into these places andcircumstances in our personal
individual selves and our lives.
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That we start to see how hepermeates and who he is in those
situations and how he deals withus.
And that is what opens us up toperfect love in a sense.
You have to love yourself beforeyou go out and try to love your
neighbor.
It's there in the Bible.
The Bible says.
You must love your friend in thesame way you love yourself.
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I know that as a Christiancommunity, we love to overthrow
that little piece there.
We love to throw out the asyourself part, or we just assume
that that as yourself part comesautomatically to us like, oh
yeah.
I just know how to love myself.
No, we don't automatically knowhow to love ourselves.
In fact, that is the part thatit's almost like we're allergic
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to sometimes as human beings,because that involves us taking
time to prioritize our wellbeingand our growth and our
transformation, and it's reallyan accountability piece that God
put in there for ourselves asindividuals.
What we see a lot of times is animbalance because people are
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trying to love themselveswithout having this connection
with the divine to show themwhat perfect love looks like, so
they're just coming up withthese things that they call self
love.
And I will say people are notwrong about wanting to explore
and grow in understanding withthis concept of self-love.
It is a necessary component inthe journey of transformation.
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However, without God there as astabilizing factor.
As a sobering factor at times.
Who is able to show us what truelove looks like.
If we don't let that lovepermeate into ourselves, then
all we are going to transfer toother people is a toxic, very
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mortal, limited perspective oflove.
The other part of thedysfunction that I see is
people, and I will say people infaith, communities or religious
communities are more susceptibleto, this is the whole concept
of, I just need to love God andI need to love others.
They've completely takenthemselves out of that equation.
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And so they're striving so hardto access this love of God, and
then somehow just dump it onother people without passing it
through themselves and filteringit through that"love yourself"
piece.
So then they do become thoseempty cymbals and those clanging
gongs that the Bible talks aboutin Corinthians.
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Where you're just making allthis noise because you haven't
taken the time, there's no depthto this love that you're trying
to give other people because youhaven't taken it through you as
a system.
You haven't understood how itpermeates into yourself.
You haven't learned how to loveyourself the way God loves you
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so that you can be this dynamicpowerhouse that then turns to
the outward world and pours thislove from your place of overflow
to other people.
Once you have this consistent,loving relationship where you
have this ever present, alwaysavailable source of unending,
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eternal human surpassing kind oflove, and you have really taken
it and applied it to yourself,and you know, you have this,
this accountability partner inGod and yourself, then you can
look to people and transfer andtransmit that type of love to
other people.
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If you are not a person whobalances your wellbeing and your
productivity and you're notdoing this dance of figuring out
what is appropriate in whatseason and really growing and
developing in that as anindividual, it's very hard for
you to show up in thesedifferent systems and implement
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a healthy transformativeculture.
Textbook knowledge, social mediatrends or just kind of
handpicking things that you'reseeing as good ideas or
transformative concepts andimplementing them into various
systems can create some change.
But for true sustainableeffective transformation, it
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always comes down to the peoplein charge of being the role
models, leaders, and examples ofthat system.
If those few people who are incharge of other people can
understand it, implement it andlove themselves in a healthy
transformative way because thenyou do have empathy.
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You do have this ability toemotionally connect with the
people that you're leading.
And then when you have learnedthe dynamic dance of wellbeing
and productivity and how toreally balance those things
effectively, then you canimplement that with a certain
level of skill and mastery withthe people you are in charge of.
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Transformational practicesdisplace the equilibrium of
traditional methods.
And what I mean is there is acertain rhythm and seemingly
productive way of running thingsthat has existed over time.
There are tried and tested andtrue methods that I am not going
to say throw away without athought.
(24:56):
Absolutely take them intoconsideration, but also
understand that sometimestransformation, a lot of times,
transformation involves youdoing something in a new way
that may not immediately yieldthe results that can convince
those traditional practices thatyou're doing something better,
but if you truly believe in itand you implement it and try, I
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just say, try.
I'm not even going to guaranteeyou that every transformational
practice that you put into placeis going to be fruitful and
successful, but you will neverknow until you try.
And take that time to celebrateyour wins and your losses.
It is important that we arewilling to displace the
equilibrium of tradition towelcome in this new state of
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being that we would like to calltransformation.
Thank you so much for journeyingwith me through season one.
Thank you for showing up everyepisode.
Thank you for downloadingepisodes, listening to them, and
then communicating your thoughtsand giving me feedback.
That is something that I haveappreciated and I value very
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much.
I have learned so much.
I have grown as a person.
And I'm so humbled and gratefulfor those of you who have had
the patience, the love and thesupport for me as I have
undertaken this podcastingjourney.
I am going to take a short breakwhile I make sure some of my
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other creative projects arecompleted.
And I'm also going to belearning how to invite other
people.
I would love to have guests inseason two.
And so I need to learn the setupfor that.
I need to invest in someadditional equipment and really
build this platform to where Ican have people join me and have
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conversations because yes, thatis a completely different
dynamic and it's beautiful andamazing in its own sense..
I wouldn't be here without youguys.
You have been my accountabilitypiece through this journey.
Every time I release an episodeand I see people downloading the
episodes.
I see people listening to them.
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And then, you know, people tellme like, when's your next
episode?
I'm waiting for its or.
This was really useful to me.
It has really kept me goingbecause I have had moments when
I have just wanted to give upwhere I have felt so inadequate
to be the voice presenting allof this.
Because I do have moments whenI'm like, I just blabbering
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these things that have, youknow, been kind of swimming in
my head or.
Is there really a transformativemessage that God has put on my
heart to speak up and share withother people.
Not that I'm an expert or I'mbetter than anybody, but this is
just something that burns sopassionately inside me that no
matter how much I try to avoidit, ignore it and tell myself
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that I'm not the person to dothis, it keeps coming back.
And you know, when you have thatthing to just nags you over and
over again, and doesn't let yousleep or be at rest without
getting it out of you.
And it, it grounds me back towhat the Lord told me when I
finished writing my book was,"Iwant you to do it for the one."
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The one being him, but also justthe one human being that might
gather one little thing fromsomething that I have said, and
that would change their lives ina little way.
If there's just one thing thatone person can take away from
all this conversation that weare having, then I believe that
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I have been an instrument oftransformation and success.
I am on Instagram@therealanuhernandez.
I am on TikTok@therealanuhernandez.
I am on Facebook at AnuHernandez.
And you can also email me attherealanuhernandez@gmail.com.
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Until next time everyone healgenerational and transform
global.
Bye.
Welcome to the systems of transformation podcast, a
podcast that is dedicated to thedynamics of generational healing
and global transformation.
Through a trauma informed lensand a Christian perspective.
I am your host, Anu Hernandezand welcome to episode eight.
The final episode of season one.
(00:23):
I can't believe that we'rerecording this final episode.
I call today's episode thescales of transformation,
because as I was brainstorming,I really wanted to leave
something impactful to end ourseason with, and also a concept
that's kind of been brewing inmy heart for the whole season
(00:46):
really, and I think it's reallyimportant to look at factors
that influence the outcomes oftransformation and things that
are really important to thelong-term sustainability of
healthy, beautifultransformative change in this
world.
If you have been following alongthrough this season, you know,
(01:10):
that we've been doing a seriescalled the qualities of a system
of transformation.
And so today we're going to lookat the last quality that I think
is important when a system istrying to embrace transformation
and set itself up forsustainable transformative
capacities.
(01:31):
Today's quality reads, a systemof transformation welcomes the
humanity of its members andequally prioritizes wellbeing
and productivity.
While I believe thatprioritizing wellbeing and
productivity equally isessential for the longterm
sustainability of atransformative system.
(01:53):
I do advocate for carefulconsideration of looking at what
real balance is and what realbalance means for the equality
of prioritizing wellbeing andproductivity.
I do understand that there areseasons in a system's evolution
and transformation where alittle bit of rebalancing is
(02:17):
required.
And that is totally okay.
And in fact, I would say yes,with careful consideration, make
those adjustments so that youcan healthily match the season
or the sub season oftransformation that you are in.
During crisis or unexpectedtransformation, you may have to
(02:40):
change your focus on priorities.
When we're going through theseunexpected seasons of change, it
is important to prioritizewellbeing over productivity.
If I was injured and if I neededcritical care, then that is not
my time to focus on output,efficiency and productivity.
(03:04):
At that point in time, I need tomake sure that I am stabilized
and supported.
And if I were to consider myselfa worthy investment, then I am
going to look at that so-calledproductivity as what is being
put into me to help me recoverfrom this unexpected hit that I
(03:25):
have taken.
So productivity mighttemporarily seem like it's going
out of the window, but reallyproductivity is going into
stabilizing who I am.
We need to set aside some ofthese things so that we can take
this time to heal, repair, makesure everyone's doing well.
(03:46):
Even if it's just me as anindividual, am I doing okay?
Like, what do I need right nowto recoup?
So that then I can get up and dowhat I need to do again.
Let's go back to that example ofif somebody is in the ICU or
they're ill and at home, theyneed time to rest.
(04:06):
You are not going to asksomebody who has just injured
themselves, broken something,been through surgery to get up
and go run a marathon or get upand go do something that's high
endurance and, achieve thesegreat outward expressions of
success when they need to bereally focusing on their
(04:27):
recovery and wellbeing.
It's the same thing with anytype of system.
On this journey of longtermsustainable transformation,
there will be times when we takethese hits.
When it's important to look atourselves and our people, if we
are leaders and in charge of agroup of people, to prioritize
their wellbeing.
(04:47):
You may be scared.
I understand it is scary to setaside some of these things and
focus on the people because theheart says, well, if we do this
now, then we're just going to bestagnant.
We're going to lose progress.
We're not going to hit thesegoals that we have.
But it's like, if I were to takethat person in the hospital and
(05:07):
throw them out on the street andtell them, go do all this, like
build a house, run a marathon,go hike this mountain.
Can you imagine the disasterthat would result from that?
Not only will they not heal,they will cause themselves more
damage.
And then neither are they goingto achieve those goals and those
tasks that we have given them toaccomplish.
(05:32):
At the end of it, it's a doubleloss.
So I would rather you take thattime to focus on the wellbeing
of your people and streamlinesome of these things so that we
have that time to process heal,recover, go to therapy, go to
support groups, something,something that helps you get
(05:53):
through this season of crisisand unexpected change.
Once you have worked your waythrough that crisis.
Once you have stabilized.
Once you have taken care of thewellbeing of people involved, I
do believe that it is okay thento make sure that you are
revisiting and rebalancing,because we are coming together
(06:15):
to achieve some type of afocused outcome or goal.
It is not unrealistic or unkindat that point to prioritize
productivity as your firstpriority and let wellbeing take
an equal or maybe a second placefor short periods of time.
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This is more of when, you know,there is that goal that you need
to get done when there is adeadline, when there are these
little spurts of intense focus,right?
That is totally okay to thensay, right now for the next
week, maybe for the next twoweeks, we got to push real hard.
We have to make these changesbecause everybody seems to have
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some type of stability andhealth right now and you're
doing okay, so let's use ourcollective wellbeing and push to
achieve this goal that we havein mind.
We inherently as human beingslove to apply ourselves to
certain missions and visions andsee that we can make a change,
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see that we can help buildsomething or create some type of
a growth surge.
It's really nice when you havethese seasons of intense focus.
I remember when I wrote my book.
I could write for up to like sixhours straight.
That was not somethingsustainable, but there were
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those short spurts when I wasable to do that, there were
those few weeks where I wouldhave such a creative flow that I
could literally sit down andwrite for like a whole day
taking breaks in the middle, ofcourse.
That's something that I can'treally do all the time, but I
know that when it came to thatseason of saying, I have this
book that I want to write, andif I just sit down and apply
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myself very focused, notneglecting my wellbeing but
prioritizing achieving this goaland the productivity of my
outcomes right now.
I can then in a short period oftime, set that aside and go back
to looking at my wellbeing againand rebalance that scale out.
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In those seasons of highproductivity, where you do need
to focus more on producingresults.
If you are somebody who hastaken the time to cater to the
wellbeing of yourself and thoseinvolved when you needed to, you
can then rest in the confidenceand the assurance that people
can invest themselves in thesespurts of growth and
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productivity that is required toachieve some of your vision and
mission.
If I was somebody that gotinjured and I took the time to
heal the broken bones and thewounds that I have endured
through whatever has happened tome, then I get to go to maybe
intense physiotherapy, intenserehabilitation.
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And over time, if I continue todo that, I get stronger.
I get more efficient.
Once this becomes commonpractice, it's almost like the
place that I was injured has nowbecome the place of my strength.
Then we do not just achieve ourgoals and our missions and
visions, we also take our peoplewith us.
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We're not losing the humanresources we have to achieve our
dreams, visions and goals, butwe're able to balance both of
them out because we don't wantto lose one for the other.
Sometimes I do think we need totake away productivity to enjoy
good moments.
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I think about an organizationthat may be use working towards
this huge event or goal, right.
And you achieve it and you do itwell.
Are we taking time to thencreate those moments of
celebration and coming togetherand really showing people that
positive focus is also apriority.
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And not just yay we hit thisgoal.
Okay move on to the next thing.
Let's go.
Can we make that a part of ourcultures where we say, we
achieved this now let's gocelebrate this.
Let's go take time to enjoy thefruits of our labor together.
If this is something individualand personal, can you sit and
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enjoy or go out and do somethingand celebrate for yourself the
recognition of what you havejust achieved?
We're not good at that.
I am not good at that.
I've had to work really hard onmyself to sit in the good
moments and enjoy my growth andnot just buzz past it and say,
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okay, I'm done with that.
Now let me look at the nextthing.
What's next.
I think we need more of that inour culture.
Not an overindulgence, but justa good moment of recognition
where we can come together andrecognize what it is that we
have just transformed.
Now I would like to talk about avery common fear and perhaps a
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misunderstanding of thisperspective of balancing the
scales of transformation.
I'm trying to work this outmyself because what I don't want
to do is unintentionally createmore chaos that is damaging and
detrimental to a system.
But I also don't want to justfocus on control and
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productivity to where we arelosing the human component of
compassion, celebration and acoming together for collective
healing and wellbeing.
You cannot in the long run havejust one of them.
I know it's such a delicatebalance of learning to care for
each one of these components,while moving forward in this
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process of transformation.
Recently I was trying to studythe components of compassion and
empathy and the role ofcompassion and empathy in
leadership and I found thesebeautiful definitions somewhere.
Give me a minute, let me go findit.
And then we'll continue.
I found it.
So compassion.
Compassion is an emotionalresponse to empathy or sympathy
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and a desire to help.
Empathy is the awareness ofother people's emotions in an
attempt to understand how theyfeel.
So empathy is an awareness.
It is a cognitive state ofrelationship where you are able
to be aware of other people'semotions and you attempt to
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understand how they feel andyou're able to make this
emotional connection ofcompassion and so you're able to
connect and help the otherperson.
The problem is when we equatecompassion to permissiveness or
vulnerability to weakness.
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Because then we have lostrelational equity with the
people that we are working with,living with doing life with or
coming together to achieve thesecreative communal goals and set
intentions of transformation.
And this is where I encourage usas human beings, in places and
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spaces where we're expected tobe the examples to really
understand the differencesbetween being compassionate and
being permissive.
Okay, so compassion again, wetalked about compassion being
this ability to respond in ahuman emotional way with the
desire to connect and help.
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But that doesn't mean that ifyou do that, you have to be
permissive and allow there to bea lack of accountability or a
lack of productivity.
That is a very difficult anddelicate balance, but it is
necessary for healthytransformation.
If we take the time to createthis culture of transformation
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and create this time to reallystudy, implement and care for
these scales of transformation,that when you have done this and
it has become a habit and acommon practice in the system
that you are involved in, youcan eventually hit kind of
stable maintenance mode, whereyou have recognized and
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understood how to balance thesetwo components of wellbeing and
productivity and keep itrelatively equal.
Once you hit that rhythm andonce it becomes ingrained into
the culture of both beingprioritized and cared for
appropriately in due seasons,people begin to kind of relax
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into that.
So then they don't mind goingthrough seasons of intense work
and productivity or intenseseasons of making sure things
are happening, goals are metbecause they know that when they
hit those moments of crisis,whether they're unexpected or
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they're just a byproduct ofthese intense seasons of
productivity.
They know that.
There are measures in place,there are safety nets in place
and the people in charge of themprioritize their wellbeing.
When people can drop theirdefenses and replace fear with
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that security of knowing thatthey're cared for, I really
think any system is going toface it's highest productivity
and healthiest longevity andreally.
see not just its people, but theentity of that system thrive.
And isn't that what we wanttransformation to look like?
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A longterm thriving group ofpeople coming together to create
this wonderful, impactful changein our world.
This brings me back to thefoundation verse of my life.
So I would like to read thispassage to you.
It's just a couple of verses andtie it in with what we're
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talking about today.
Matthew 22 verses 37 to 39.
Jesus answered him.
Love the Lord, your God, withevery passion of your heart.
With all the energy of yourbeing and with every thought
that is within you.
This is the great and supremecommandment.
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And the second is like in itsimportance.
You must love your friend in thesame way you love yourself.
I read that from The PassionTranslation What I'm trying to
say in all of this is it comesback to my belief that if we, as
human beings ought to learn thehealthy transformative way to
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love, we have to learn it fromGod.
God is the perfect template andblueprint of perfect love.
And it is only through ourinteraction and relationship
with him that we are going tolearn what true, perfect,
eternal, divine love is supposedto look like and how it
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interacts and applies itself andmanifests in this earth.
God teaches us that.
There is no way we are going togenerate this as a human race by
ourselves.
To an extent.
Yes.
God created us in his image andwe are his children.
And so of course there arecomponents in us that are
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naturally wired like him andyes, we can generate love to a
certain extent.
But it will be imperfect andflawed and.
I would rather submit myself andstay in continued connection
with the divine perfect sourceof love so I can learn more and
more from him and apply that tomyself.
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So that then with this lovingrelationship that I have with
God, because to me.
God he's not an abstractconcept.
He's not a distant fairy tale.
He's a living, breathinginteracting force and and a
being who is there continuouslyin my life and in the lives of
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all of us.
And wants to have thatrelationship with us so that he
can love us.
You know, I read in the Biblethat while we were yet sinners,
God loved us.
So he loved us even before weknew him, recognized him or
acknowledged him, valued him.
Wanted to have a relationshipwith him.
So that love is always there.
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Once we get into that place ofsaying, I think I want to be a
part of this relationshipbecause I experience love when I
am with you.
And we build this intimate,loving relationship with him and
we let him into these places andcircumstances in our personal
individual selves and our lives.
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That we start to see how hepermeates and who he is in those
situations and how he deals withus.
And that is what opens us up toperfect love in a sense.
You have to love yourself beforeyou go out and try to love your
neighbor.
It's there in the Bible.
The Bible says.
You must love your friend in thesame way you love yourself.
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I know that as a Christiancommunity, we love to overthrow
that little piece there.
We love to throw out the asyourself part, or we just assume
that that as yourself part comesautomatically to us like, oh
yeah.
I just know how to love myself.
No, we don't automatically knowhow to love ourselves.
In fact, that is the part thatit's almost like we're allergic
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to sometimes as human beings,because that involves us taking
time to prioritize our wellbeingand our growth and our
transformation, and it's reallyan accountability piece that God
put in there for ourselves asindividuals.
What we see a lot of times is animbalance because people are
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trying to love themselveswithout having this connection
with the divine to show themwhat perfect love looks like, so
they're just coming up withthese things that they call self
love.
And I will say people are notwrong about wanting to explore
and grow in understanding withthis concept of self-love.
It is a necessary component inthe journey of transformation.
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However, without God there as astabilizing factor.
As a sobering factor at times.
Who is able to show us what truelove looks like.
If we don't let that lovepermeate into ourselves, then
all we are going to transfer toother people is a toxic, very
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mortal, limited perspective oflove.
The other part of thedysfunction that I see is
people, and I will say people infaith, communities or religious
communities are more susceptibleto, this is the whole concept
of, I just need to love God andI need to love others.
They've completely takenthemselves out of that equation.
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And so they're striving so hardto access this love of God, and
then somehow just dump it onother people without passing it
through themselves and filteringit through that"love yourself"
piece.
So then they do become thoseempty cymbals and those clanging
gongs that the Bible talks aboutin Corinthians.
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Where you're just making allthis noise because you haven't
taken the time, there's no depthto this love that you're trying
to give other people because youhaven't taken it through you as
a system.
You haven't understood how itpermeates into yourself.
You haven't learned how to loveyourself the way God loves you
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so that you can be this dynamicpowerhouse that then turns to
the outward world and pours thislove from your place of overflow
to other people.
Once you have this consistent,loving relationship where you
have this ever present, alwaysavailable source of unending,
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eternal human surpassing kind oflove, and you have really taken
it and applied it to yourself,and you know, you have this,
this accountability partner inGod and yourself, then you can
look to people and transfer andtransmit that type of love to
other people.
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If you are not a person whobalances your wellbeing and your
productivity and you're notdoing this dance of figuring out
what is appropriate in whatseason and really growing and
developing in that as anindividual, it's very hard for
you to show up in thesedifferent systems and implement
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a healthy transformativeculture.
Textbook knowledge, social mediatrends or just kind of
handpicking things that you'reseeing as good ideas or
transformative concepts andimplementing them into various
systems can create some change.
But for true sustainableeffective transformation, it
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always comes down to the peoplein charge of being the role
models, leaders, and examples ofthat system.
If those few people who are incharge of other people can
understand it, implement it andlove themselves in a healthy
transformative way because thenyou do have empathy.
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You do have this ability toemotionally connect with the
people that you're leading.
And then when you have learnedthe dynamic dance of wellbeing
and productivity and how toreally balance those things
effectively, then you canimplement that with a certain
level of skill and mastery withthe people you are in charge of.
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Transformational practicesdisplace the equilibrium of
traditional methods.
And what I mean is there is acertain rhythm and seemingly
productive way of running thingsthat has existed over time.
There are tried and tested andtrue methods that I am not going
to say throw away without athought.
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Absolutely take them intoconsideration, but also
understand that sometimestransformation, a lot of times,
transformation involves youdoing something in a new way
that may not immediately yieldthe results that can convince
those traditional practices thatyou're doing something better,
but if you truly believe in itand you implement it and try, I
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just say, try.
I'm not even going to guaranteeyou that every transformational
practice that you put into placeis going to be fruitful and
successful, but you will neverknow until you try.
And take that time to celebrateyour wins and your losses.
It is important that we arewilling to displace the
equilibrium of tradition towelcome in this new state of
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being that we would like to calltransformation.
Thank you so much for journeyingwith me through season one.
Thank you for showing up everyepisode.
Thank you for downloadingepisodes, listening to them, and
then communicating your thoughtsand giving me feedback.
That is something that I haveappreciated and I value very
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much.
I have learned so much.
I have grown as a person.
And I'm so humbled and gratefulfor those of you who have had
the patience, the love and thesupport for me as I have
undertaken this podcastingjourney.
I am going to take a short breakwhile I make sure some of my
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other creative projects arecompleted.
And I'm also going to belearning how to invite other
people.
I would love to have guests inseason two.
And so I need to learn the setupfor that.
I need to invest in someadditional equipment and really
build this platform to where Ican have people join me and have
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conversations because yes, thatis a completely different
dynamic and it's beautiful andamazing in its own sense..
I wouldn't be here without youguys.
You have been my accountabilitypiece through this journey.
Every time I release an episodeand I see people downloading the
episodes.
I see people listening to them.
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And then, you know, people tellme like, when's your next
episode?
I'm waiting for its or.
This was really useful to me.
It has really kept me goingbecause I have had moments when
I have just wanted to give upwhere I have felt so inadequate
to be the voice presenting allof this.
Because I do have moments whenI'm like, I just blabbering
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these things that have, youknow, been kind of swimming in
my head or.
Is there really a transformativemessage that God has put on my
heart to speak up and share withother people.
Not that I'm an expert or I'mbetter than anybody, but this is
just something that burns sopassionately inside me that no
matter how much I try to avoidit, ignore it and tell myself
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that I'm not the person to dothis, it keeps coming back.
And you know, when you have thatthing to just nags you over and
over again, and doesn't let yousleep or be at rest without
getting it out of you.
And it, it grounds me back towhat the Lord told me when I
finished writing my book was,"Iwant you to do it for the one."
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The one being him, but also justthe one human being that might
gather one little thing fromsomething that I have said, and
that would change their lives ina little way.
If there's just one thing thatone person can take away from
all this conversation that weare having, then I believe that
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I have been an instrument oftransformation and success.
I am on Instagram@therealanuhernandez.
I am on TikTok@therealanuhernandez.
I am on Facebook at AnuHernandez.
And you can also email me attherealanuhernandez@gmail.com.
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Until next time everyone healgenerational and transform
global.
Bye.
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