Have you ever wondered what pastors really think when the mic is off and the church lights are dimmed? In this episode, Jason and Nicole open up about the joys, heartbreaks, and surprises of ministry life—especially in small-town Appalachia. From counseling at midnight to preaching with a broken heart, they peel back the curtain on what it’s like to live as both shepherds and humans.
This is an honest, grace-filled conversation for:
🧑🤝🧑 Church members who want to love their pastors better
🙏 Pastors who feel unseen and stretched thin
🌱 People curious about the faith without the performance
Whether you're in the pew or the pulpit, this episode offers encouragement, a few laughs, and a deeper look into the lives of those called to lead.
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