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June 26, 2025 43 mins

Church hurt is real — and for many, it's the reason they’ve walked away from pews, pulpits, and even faith communities altogether. In this episode, Jason and Nicole open a gentle but honest conversation about the damage churches can do, especially when well-meaning people respond with clichés instead of compassion.

🎙️ We unpack common phrases like:

  • “No church is perfect.”
  • “Just pray about it.”
  • “Aren’t you being bitter?”
     … and explain why these responses can make things worse.

👂 Instead, we explore how to respond with presence, empathy, and the love of Christ — and how healing can begin outside the walls of the church.

Whether you’ve experienced church hurt yourself or want to better love someone who has, this episode offers space to listen, process, and hope again.

🛋️ Pull up a chair. There’s room at the table for your story.

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