July 7, 2025 • 32 mins
Today, Lucille and Lynn are diving into one of the most misunderstood transitions in a woman’s life:Is menopause a disease… or a time of powerful transformation?For some, it’s a season of clarity, freedom, and self-discovery.For others, it feels like chaos—hot flashes, brain fog, mood swings, and total exhaustion.So what’s the difference?Why do some cultures barely even notice menopause, while others suffer through it for years?Lucille and Lynn unpack the science, the mindset, and the cultural stories we've been told—from circadian disruption and poor nutrition to the lack of community and ritual around this sacred shift.More than that, they talk about how to bring back the wisdom, the strength, and the joy of this phase—and how to support your body and mind naturally through the transition.Because menopause is not the end.It's not something to fear.And no—it is not a disease.It’s an awakening.Follow us on Instagram!Dr. Lucille @LucilleNecas Dr. Lynn @TheAgingGamesLynn's book, The Fasting Bible: How to Lose Weight, Grow Younger and Heal your Body (in 30 days or less): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BQ43495K
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Welcome to the Rewilded Human podcast, where Doctor Lucille,
holistic psychiatrist and psychotherapist, and Doctor
Lynn, Naturopath and Nutritionalconsultant help you reconnect
with your true self through practical tips on mental health,
nutrition, exercise, relationships, and spirituality.
With a dash of humor, they tackle today's toughest issues
to guide you back to a harmonious, vibrant life.
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Rediscover your natural self, just as nature intended.
Hello everyone, and welcome backto the Rewilded Human podcast.
Ladies over 50, this is for you.We're going to talk about
menopause, but not the doom and gloom and the hot flashes and
the anxiety and the insomnia. We're not talking about that.
We're going to talk about the beautiful, positive side of
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menopause that nobody talks about.
So this, like many other episodes we've had, is inspired
by a recent reel that we shared on Instagram and that's gone
completely, really viral. And people are sharing it and
talking about it and it really like spoke to a lot of women's
soul. So we're going to start by
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playing this for you guys and then we will continue with the
discussion. They told you menopause was the
end, but what if it's your greatest beginning?
In nature, only a few species experience menopause.
Humans. Walkers, Belugas.
No whales. And in these pods, it's the
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older females who lead. They guide, they teach, they
protect. Their pod.
Science calls it the grandmotherhypothesis.
Menopause isn't a decline. It's a biological invitation
into leadership, from caregiver to wisdom keeper, from doing to
deeply becoming. This is the power of the
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matriarch. Your body isn't broken.
It's wise, it's sacred. It's ready.
You are not fading. You're awakening.
Welcome to your ageing Games era.
So on this reel on Instagram, there was a comment from a lady
and this was a very interesting comment.
She said she read an article andI've been trying to find the
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article. I haven't found it, Lucille.
The article said that while yourbody's making all this estrogen,
it's wiring you for compliance, for nurturing, for taking care
of others. And once your estrogen levels
drop, you are free. You are finally free to be
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yourself, to live your life the way you want, and to live for
yourself instead of just living for others and for giving
yourself up to take care of others.
Isn't that interesting? And absolutely true, right?
It's absolutely true. And I think it's actually maybe
controversial statement on my part, but I think it's true
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that, you know, go and live yourlife should be the mission,
right? It and so many, yet so many
people unfortunately get stuck in.
But what is my purpose now, right if I'm not?
A caretaker. If I'm not a caretaker,
caregiver, whatever, what is my purpose?
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And that causes a lot of problem.
And the one of the things that'sa really important point here is
that the wisdom that's portrayedin that real that's, that was
normal for human beings for millennia.
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I mean, as long as we've existedand, and it changed around the
time that of the Industrial revolution, right when, you
know, we stopped being agrarian,quite not not living in farming
communities or tribes and we hadto work.
And then our value became tied to work, and a woman's value
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also became tied to producing workers.
Yeah. You want to really be simplistic
about it. That's what it was, you know?
And so once you're done with producing workers, what's your
value? You have no value.
That's right. So we could go into lots of
conspiracy theory theories for why that was created that way.
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But, you know, it is time for people to wake up and realize
this is not normal. This is not healthy for us as
human beings. This is not how we evolved.
And so, yeah, absolutely. Let's let's rewild ourselves and
go back to being who we were meant to be, which.
Is wise, wise women. Wise women.
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And of course, you're wasting somuch wisdom if you think that
your life is over after you. You've, you know, let the last
kid out the front door and it's just, it is insane, right?
It's really insane. But it's so nice to see that for
a lot of women, their life actually is just beginning, you
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know, that that all of a sudden they realize they don't want to
be in this marriage anymore. You know, they leave an abusive
husband, they start over, they start travelling, they start
doing things they could never imagine doing themselves before.
So I mean, it's also like this huge time of transition.
Absolutely. And I also wonder because, you
know, we talk a lot about menopausal symptoms and how some
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people get them severely. Some people don't get them at
all. And if you see the comments on
this post, it's it's very mixed because some people will say,
yes, this resonates would be completely and that others will
say, I went through hell. You don't know the hell that I
went through and kind of missingthe message of the of the whole
real right, because it's it's just trying to put a positive
spin on it. And just because you're going
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through hell, which is terrible.And I feel truly sorry for
anyone that's going through hellwith all these symptoms, but I'm
just wondering, is this normal? Like is menopausal disease?
Are we supposed to be having allthese horrible symptoms and
going through hell in this transition?
Or how much of it is caused by mindset?
You know how we approach it. If the more negatively we we
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look at the situation rather than the positive side, of
course we're going to have more physical symptoms because
everything starts in our mind. That's a, that's an excellent
question. I, I'm one of those lucky women.
I never had any, any symptoms other than my period stop pretty
much and that's it. And then my whole maternal
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lineage, nobody, nobody reportedhaving menopausal symptoms.
It just wasn't talked about. And I know that if it had been a
problem, it would have been talked about up down the
sideways because my my maternal line, they were they loved
drama. They.
Loved. Being victims, it was like, so
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if, if they weren't complaining about menopause, it wasn't, It
wasn't there for them. It was not on their radar and I.
Think that was so different withthem and their lifestyles look
at. Look at how different our lives
are, right? Like, you know, you and I are
into quantum biology. A lot of them were, you know,
outdoors. A lot more if they weren't.
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Into quantum biology, yes. That's right, they were out
exposed to sunlight, exposed to the grounding of the earth.
They had a purpose. They were part of a usually a
community or a tribe where, you know, everybody was supportive
of one another. They were not bombarded by
non-native Emfs, by all the toxins in our world, most of
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which we don't even know are there.
You know, we who knows, we probably know a tiny sliver of
what we're being exposed to chemically, electromagnetically.
The earth itself is changing. You know, we've got the change
in the the earth's pulses. So and, and, you know, they went
through things like real horrors, like wars, that is
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true. But then they also had a lot
more natural support, you know, for for those who survived the
wars, there was more natural support.
They were more supported by one another by nature.
And we have really lost that. And so I think that I don't
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think it was such a huge issue. The other thing too, you know,
you may know this as well that there have been documented that
we used to live a lot longer. Our age, age span was our
lifespan was much longer. And so sociologists and, and,
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you know, explorers, people likeGary Young, who founded Young
Living Essential Oils, Weston Price, who is revered for all
his work with indigenous peoples, They would go out into,
you know, areas where indigenouspeople still lived a much more
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natural life, like in the mountainous regions of Mexico
and, and, you know, in the Andesand all sorts of, of wild areas.
And what they discovered was that the people lived a very
long time. And it was documented that women
were still bearing children at ages like 70s, in their 80s, in
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their 90s. And, yeah, and, you know, I and,
and we marvel at the fact that, you know, a woman is having a
baby in her late 40s, You know, so there's so much that we've
lost awareness of. We have lost the wisdom of what
life was like normally and naturally.
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And I, I think that we really need to understand like where we
have come from as a species on this planet to really understand
the context. We, our context is so limited.
It's just like the last few 100 years.
That's it. If if if that at all right?
Or if any of it is even true, because everything they tell us
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is a lie, so we don't know. Anything yes, yes.
So I, I, I do think that a lot of it is mindset when people
have really difficult time with menopause, but also everything
else we're being bombarded by that, you know, our ancestors
never had to deal with. Absolutely, absolutely.
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So what can what can women do toto kind of I mean it this real
resonated with a lot of people. So obviously we have this
internal feeling this that that we know that we are stepping
into our power that this can be because I mean, let's talk about
like the all the good things regarding going through
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menopause. I mean, obviously the first one,
your period stop. You don't have to walk around
with 10 lbs in your bag. You know, you're not going to
have your period for two weeks when you're on vacation, which
always, you know, Murphy's law, right?
So you don't need to worry aboutyour period, which is great.
You don't need to worry about getting pregnant.
So you don't have to worry aboutbirth control.
You don't have to be stressing about that.
That's huge, right? Your children are probably grown
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if you had children. So you have more independence,
you have more time to yourself. You're you're probably setting
your career, you're set it financially.
You probably have your home paidfor a lot of people.
So, you know, this is really a time that you can just come
alive and and finally enjoy life.
Because, you know, we struggle so much to our 20s, our 30s,
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trying to find our way, trying to find our career, trying to
pay off our house, you know, trying to find out what we want
to do. But you know, by the time you
hit 50, it's like you're there, you've arrived, you've you've
done it. Yes, yes.
And I think that you need to be able to envision your life as
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far big, bigger than your family.
You know, you, you have to, you know, people think very
superficially about life after menopause.
They think they're going to be doing the, a lot of them think
they're going to be, you know, still very hands on involved
with their families, but that often is not the case.
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So they lose that role of the grandmotherly role and then they
have no vision, no vision of a life outside of that.
Some are lucky, some maybe pick up on passions they had before
they started having children, like painting or writing or, or
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starting up a business. But it's it, you have to have a
vision of your life, right? You have to, you have to have a
plan. And and even if you don't.
A purpose. And even if you don't, maybe
you've forgotten it or maybe youdon't.
You don't resonate with what youused to dream about.
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It doesn't matter as long as youhave the a little bit of
excitement or joy at the thoughtthat you are going to create a
wonderful life for yourself. Absolutely.
Right. And that you can now go out and
explore. Yeah.
Whatever it is that you, you know, takes your fancy and you
try it on for size, see if it works out.
Right. Yeah, I see.
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I think one of the great things about our time, although
unfortunately it may be changingback again, is that women have
financial freedom for the most part.
I know it's not true of of everyone, but that we have
certainly far more financial independence and our our, you
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know, past generations. Absolutely.
And that, you know, that in and of itself can help women so much
in terms of self esteem, in terms of feeling like they have
agency in their lives and they're not stuck or trapped in
a bad marriage, for example. For sure.
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And. Plus, you don't have any more FS
to give. You know you just don't.
Yeah, right. Right.
And I think that maybe you know,part part of that you tell me
because you should know this probably more than I do, maybe
due to hormonal shifting as well.
Yeah, I think so. We're.
Yeah, we're, you know, you're not, you're not as cuddly,
nurturing, nice. You know, you can tell.
You can you can tell people likeit is, you know, and.
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It's so freeing. It is very freeing when you
don't give a, you know, flying. Flying and, and, and also, you
know, like some, some women complain that, OK, I've become
invisible and it was my beauty that got me attention that got
me, you know, the front row seats at the theater or
whatever. And, and they feel like when
this starts fading, women feel lost, like that's, that was
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their identity, their, their looks, their beauty.
And I think people feel a littlebit lost when they feel like
that's starting to fade. But I think also that part can
also be freeing because then then you have to go deeper and,
and you have to realize that youhave so much more to offer the
world than just, you know, your good looks.
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There's, there's so much more depth and there's so much more
to who you are that you can, youcan discover and others can
discover. And I mean, you know, I can, I
can look at like ladies that aremuch, much older than me and
just look at them and, and see their beauty like they're just
radiate this, this life experience, this wisdom, this,
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you know, the beautiful Gray hair just flowing and it, it can
be so incredible. And I think whatever you have
inside of you is going to radiate to the outside world so
much stronger as we get older. Right.
And and we, you made a great point here.
It's we, it's us individually that have to value ourselves,
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right? That, you know, I think it's
shows a very impoverished self esteem if you're just mourning
the loss of your attractiveness.Like that was a big deal about
how how good you felt about yourself.
Yeah. And I'm not, I'm not being
critical of it because nobody likes looking at themselves in
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the mirror and seeing that they're not as beautiful and
sensual and whatever as they were, you know, 20 years ago.
I don't, I, I'm not being critical of that.
But you're absolutely right. There's far more to you than
your body. And, and you have to walk into a
room and be so certain of your value that you don't care what
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kind of impact you make. You know, you're just totally
confident. You are expecting that you're
going to create the best time you can, but you couldn't care
less if everybody's head turned or didn't when you walked in,
right? But that's.
That's powerful in itself that you have that part of confidence
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where you're not where you're not looking for validation from
complete strangers exactly whistling you on the street like
that absolutely or or liking your, you know, your your photos
on Instagram or whatever. So it the validation doesn't
have to come from the outside. The validation is coming from
inside of you and you know you're.
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Inside, right, right. And, and now it is it's it's
fabulous. And it's about valuing depth in
relationships, depth rather thanthe superficials, right?
That, you know, if I'm invisible, quote UN quote
invisible, you're right. It does give us an extra few
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degrees of freedom. I can go up to anybody on the
street and say hi. Oh, I love your coat.
Where did you get that coat? You know, I could even talk to a
male stranger, you know, you know, within certain limits and
just start up on a conversation with nothing, you know, no
strings attached, no expectations, nothing.
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And he's not going to assume you're hitting on him or trying
to. Yeah.
Absolutely. Absolutely.
So you're, you're not going in with any kind of sexual tension,
you know, because quite frankly,I don't think that in this world
we are very mature about sexual attractiveness.
I don't, you know, I don't thinkwe deal with it very well.
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I think it's all very childish to be perfectly honest.
But if if that if that is gone. Then.
We can be whoever we want to be,you know, and we can have those
deeper relationships without worrying that it's going to go
off in some kind of weird direction.
Yeah, it's true. And even even with friends, you
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know, like we've talked about friendships many times on this
podcast and and it's like you just look for deeper friendships
and connections. You don't want the shallow small
talk, wasting my time talking about the weather.
You know, you learn to like, appreciate and love your own
company. I love my own company like I
will only spend. As you should, but I do be the
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realist person to be with. Well, you know, I'm travelling
by myself. I've never done that before.
I went to Qatar by myself last you know, I'm off on a on a
retreat by myself. I could never even imagine
myself like sitting in a restaurant having a meal by
myself like that to me was insane.
I could never do that. I'm totally fine sitting in a
restaurant eating a meal. I'm totally fine in the
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mountains hiking alone. Like I would even go for a walk
by myself when I was younger, Lucy, I couldn't even go for a
walk by myself. Like if I didn't have anyone to
walk with, I'm not going to go walk alone.
Now I walk alone all day. I don't care.
I don't need anyone to to be with me or I don't.
I need constant company and, andI did like even 10 years ago, I
needed constant company or five years ago.
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I'm not sure why, but now I don't care about that.
I just want to be out there. I want to be living my life.
I go swimming by myself. I go, I go everywhere alone and
I don't mind. And, you know, I'm happy to
spend time with people, people who will uplift me, who whose
company I enjoy will make my life better.
But people that are complaining,bringing me down, you know,
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Debbie, I don't want that. I'd rather be alone.
And you need that maturity. You need to get to this point to
say no, no thank you. Yeah, exactly.
Exactly. And I know you've given up
friendships and relationships, you know, for reason.
And you have. You don't feel bad about it.
You don't feel guilty. No, that's right.
That's right. No, not at all.
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It's so freeing to be able to, well, that person is going to
drop out of my life. OK, that's fine.
Who's next? Yeah, you know, exact attitude.
Who is next? Who's going to align better with
me? And, and that's wonderful.
And you also have, which I thinkis really important for women
who've, who've had children. You have a really healthy
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attitude towards your son. Now I know he's your, he's your
precious baby and he's the center of your, of your
universe. But but it's not like, you know,
you are clinging on to him and his girlfriend, you know, for a
life that you know, I'm sure youdon't guilt him out for not
phoning you every day. Yeah, right.
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So you know, which is another thing I think women,
unfortunately, fall back on whenthey feel they've lost their
identity and they're too afraid of creating one.
They will cling way too much to their children, as if the
children now owe them a life, Right?
That's not good. You need to let their, let your
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kids live their own life. I mean, the nice thing is that
if you have a nice relationship,like I don't have to go looking
for my son. He comes looking for me, you
know, or he comes and wants to spend time with me and
everything. And it's just natural.
It's not forced. It's just how we are.
We're very close. We love each other.
Would never go a day without speaking, but he would never go
a day without calling or, or messaging me.
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So it, it's it and it works perfectly.
But I would never cling on to him.
And, you know, while we were in Spain for the winter, I mean,
you know, we saw each other maybe once a month and we
weren't that far. We were like 20 kilometers away.
But he was busy. I was busy and it's fine.
It doesn't cause me any. You know, I feel secure in my
relationship with him that I don't need to be on to him like
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that. So again, that's another thing
that we can, you know, step intoour power and feel confident in
our relationship, for example, with my husband, like, you know,
we've been together 30 years. Yeah, 30 years in May.
So it's I feel confident that I can go away on a trip by myself
and then he's not going to run off with the housekeeper, you
know, but but you know, when you're younger, you don't the
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housekeeper. Wouldn't want to, probably.
Not she knows him too, but you know what I mean.
Like when you're younger, you worry about that stuff like that
from travelling. When I was younger, you were
insecure. It's like if I leave my husband
for a week because I want to travel and he doesn't for sure
he's going to have, you know, like a house full of women the
second I step out of the house. But now I don't feel like that,
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like I, you know what I mean? Like everything becomes like
more stable, just more normal, calmer.
You calm down. You don't have these crazy, you
know, manic thoughts all the time.
Exactly, exactly. You achieve a state of peace.
You do, You do. And that's, I mean, that's the
best, that's the best part. And why are we not talking about
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this? Why are we not talking about
these things that, you know, this can be an amazing time of
transformation. And the more you look at all
these positive things, I mean, just some of the things that we
mentioned today, and there are probably hundreds of other
things that people can bring into this conversation that that
if we focus on those instead of searching symptoms all the time
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online. Oh my God, I have the hot
flashes. OK, I'm feeling hot.
I think I had a hot flash. OK, I need HRT.
Oh my God, it's all going downhill.
And for sure, I'm like never going to sleep again.
And the anxiety is through the roof and I'm going to get fat
because everyone said you get fat during menopause.
That's just normal. But none of these things are
normal and they don't have to happen and they don't happen in
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certain cultures and they didn'tused to happen.
As you know, we're mentioning like even my mother, she's never
actually her period stopped and that's it.
That's it. Never had a single symptom.
So is it genetic? Is it lifestyle?
Is it our attitude? But for sure, the more you get
into these, OK, I'm in the menopause groups and I'm
listening to all these women with all these symptoms.
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Oh, there's a new symptom that Ididn't know I had.
OK, now I have that symptom as well, right?
I know, right, Because I wear all my symptoms as a badge of
honor. Honor.
I know it's. I am a menopausal woman.
Exactly. And you're creating.
You're creating. You're becoming a tribe of
victims. Yes.
Rather than living your life fully, you are now a victim to
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your symptoms. I mean, really, is that how you
really want to live? And unfortunately, some people
really get off on that. They couldn't imagine living
without their symptoms, without their, as you say, badge of
honor that attracts so much sympathy and empathy from
others, right? Yeah, I mean, suck it up,
butter. I know.
I mean, I know a lot of women are suffering and we're not
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trying to belittle them or anything right away from that.
We are. Yeah, you can.
You can be suffering, but you can still be searching for ways
to balance out your Yes exactly.And you know, and, and just
talk, we talk about in biology alot on this show, but I mean,
honestly, the more connected youcan be to to nature, the more
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time you can spend outside in the sun, less on your blue lit
devices and these toxic indoor lighting and everything.
The more you can live the way our ancestors lived, the less
symptoms you're going to have. I can guarantee you that.
I mean, in fact, I'm writing a whole book about this because
that's how important this is. I can't plug the book yet
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because I'm not not sure what the publisher is, what the title
is going to be, but it's going to be a long title.
I know that for sure. But you know that there are so
many skills that we can learn and we can rewild ourselves back
to how we're meant to be. And that would make this whole
transition so much smoother and without having to deal with all
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these these, you know, uncomfortable issues that come
that could come with menopause, we could be focused on on our
rebirth and absolutely ourselves.
Absolutely. And you know, another thing that
we have to mention, and we did one whole episode on it, is
sexuality. And The thing is that some
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women, to their utter surprise, find they have a sexual
blossoming after menopause, especially if they start feeling
like they're more in control of their lives.
They have more freedom. They don't care what other
people think. And lo and behold, you know,
they especially if they don't have wildly imbalanced hormones,
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you know, it's amazing how they can feel like sexually liberated
and they may have the best sexual relationships after
menopause. I've I've talked to women like
that. Wow.
Tell us more. Well, you know, it's more it's
about really stepping into beingopen to breaking free of all the
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limitations, right? Yes.
So you, maybe your marriage, it has not been working for a while
and you have to delve into why that is.
Maybe it is because the sexual intimacy has become so low on
the priority list that it's it'sdisappeared.
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So a woman in that situation, ifshe really wants to start having
a fulfilled life on the sexual level, she's going to approach
her husband or partner, whatever, and say, listen, we
could be doing better. We could be doing a lot better
than this. And I miss, I miss having those
wild orgasms that we used to have before we had children and
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all these responsibilities. So a woman can really be the
driver of a better sex life. Excuse me.
Or she can just get a boy toy. Yeah.
And so, yeah, you mentioned boy toys.
Some women do that. I find a lot of women are still
interested in having a mature, healthy, monogamous
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relationship. Absolutely.
That still involves sex. Some women are not interested in
that. But I, I want people not to have
the assumption, the misconception that because you
are postmenopausal, your sex life is over.
And that is completely nuts. Your sexuality, I don't want to
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trivialize it, but your sexuality, as you know, Lynn,
because you're, you're a naturopath, your sexuality is a
little bit like a muscle that if, if you don't use it, yes, it
atrophies. Yes.
However, it's still there for you if you want to have a full
enriched sex life, even if you're just doing self
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pleasuring practices that can bevery, very fulfilling and very
rewarding. And it's very healthy.
It's very. Great for the hormones,
absolutely. Great for the hormones and yeah.
So your mood improves, your vitality improves, your
motivation improves, everything improves.
Yeah, absolutely. So to get back to mindset, you
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know, just because, yeah, you'vehit menopause, it's not like
your life is over. Your sex life is over.
Really, nothing's over. Like look at it as a new, as a
new beginning, as a new start, as a revival, A rewiring, you
know, like a rewilding session where it's like you have this
chapter 2, the the Chinese call it your second spring.
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That that sounds so good. No, you're second spring.
It's like you're, you're coming alive, you're flourishing, and
you have all, I mean, what a beautiful way for the Chinese to
look at it, right? Well, the Chinese.
The ancient Chinese had practices that were all about
longevity and sexual vitality and maintaining optimal health
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throughout the lifespan, right? They were very much into that.
And, and again, that's somethingthat much of that has been lost
to us. Ayur beta, Ayur beta.
And then, you know, here's Western medicine, you know, it's
like just trying to get rid of you as fast as possible.
Absolutely pay your pension, right, Right.
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So it's quite sad, but any good anyway?
I mean, I think just to summarize this episode, we just
wanted to give this like a nice positive twist because I think
there's just so much talk about the hard part, the sad part, the
the symptoms, all of these things.
But I think it's also really important to focus on the good
side. And and like with everything in
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life, if there is a good side and there's a bad side and
whichever side we focus on, that's the side that's going to
grow and evolve. And so it's really, really
important to focus your mindset on your.
Absolutely. Yeah.
Anything else you want to say inclosing Lucille to this?
No, I, I, I would just invite any listeners who've had a
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really good experience of life postmenopausal to leave us
comments about, you know, their some inspiring comments about
how they've been able to have their second spring.
Yeah, we'd love that. We'd love hearing from you guys.
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Rediscover your natural self, just as nature intended.
Hello everyone, and welcome backto the Rewilded Human podcast.
Ladies over 50, this is for you.We're going to talk about
menopause, but not the doom and gloom and the hot flashes and
the anxiety and the insomnia. We're not talking about that.
We're going to talk about the beautiful, positive side of
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menopause that nobody talks about.
So this, like many other episodes we've had, is inspired
by a recent reel that we shared on Instagram and that's gone
completely, really viral. And people are sharing it and
talking about it and it really like spoke to a lot of women's
soul. So we're going to start by
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playing this for you guys and then we will continue with the
discussion. They told you menopause was the
end, but what if it's your greatest beginning?
In nature, only a few species experience menopause.
Humans. Walkers, Belugas.
No whales. And in these pods, it's the
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older females who lead. They guide, they teach, they
protect. Their pod.
Science calls it the grandmotherhypothesis.
Menopause isn't a decline. It's a biological invitation
into leadership, from caregiver to wisdom keeper, from doing to
deeply becoming. This is the power of the
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matriarch. Your body isn't broken.
It's wise, it's sacred. It's ready.
You are not fading. You're awakening.
Welcome to your ageing Games era.
So on this reel on Instagram, there was a comment from a lady
and this was a very interesting comment.
She said she read an article andI've been trying to find the
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article. I haven't found it, Lucille.
The article said that while yourbody's making all this estrogen,
it's wiring you for compliance, for nurturing, for taking care
of others. And once your estrogen levels
drop, you are free. You are finally free to be
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yourself, to live your life the way you want, and to live for
yourself instead of just living for others and for giving
yourself up to take care of others.
Isn't that interesting? And absolutely true, right?
It's absolutely true. And I think it's actually maybe
controversial statement on my part, but I think it's true
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that, you know, go and live yourlife should be the mission,
right? It and so many, yet so many
people unfortunately get stuck in.
But what is my purpose now, right if I'm not?
A caretaker. If I'm not a caretaker,
caregiver, whatever, what is my purpose?
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And that causes a lot of problem.
And the one of the things that'sa really important point here is
that the wisdom that's portrayedin that real that's, that was
normal for human beings for millennia.
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I mean, as long as we've existedand, and it changed around the
time that of the Industrial revolution, right when, you
know, we stopped being agrarian,quite not not living in farming
communities or tribes and we hadto work.
And then our value became tied to work, and a woman's value
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also became tied to producing workers.
Yeah. You want to really be simplistic
about it. That's what it was, you know?
And so once you're done with producing workers, what's your
value? You have no value.
That's right. So we could go into lots of
conspiracy theory theories for why that was created that way.
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But, you know, it is time for people to wake up and realize
this is not normal. This is not healthy for us as
human beings. This is not how we evolved.
And so, yeah, absolutely. Let's let's rewild ourselves and
go back to being who we were meant to be, which.
Is wise, wise women. Wise women.
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And of course, you're wasting somuch wisdom if you think that
your life is over after you. You've, you know, let the last
kid out the front door and it's just, it is insane, right?
It's really insane. But it's so nice to see that for
a lot of women, their life actually is just beginning, you
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know, that that all of a sudden they realize they don't want to
be in this marriage anymore. You know, they leave an abusive
husband, they start over, they start travelling, they start
doing things they could never imagine doing themselves before.
So I mean, it's also like this huge time of transition.
Absolutely. And I also wonder because, you
know, we talk a lot about menopausal symptoms and how some
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people get them severely. Some people don't get them at
all. And if you see the comments on
this post, it's it's very mixed because some people will say,
yes, this resonates would be completely and that others will
say, I went through hell. You don't know the hell that I
went through and kind of missingthe message of the of the whole
real right, because it's it's just trying to put a positive
spin on it. And just because you're going
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through hell, which is terrible.And I feel truly sorry for
anyone that's going through hellwith all these symptoms, but I'm
just wondering, is this normal? Like is menopausal disease?
Are we supposed to be having allthese horrible symptoms and
going through hell in this transition?
Or how much of it is caused by mindset?
You know how we approach it. If the more negatively we we
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look at the situation rather than the positive side, of
course we're going to have more physical symptoms because
everything starts in our mind. That's a, that's an excellent
question. I, I'm one of those lucky women.
I never had any, any symptoms other than my period stop pretty
much and that's it. And then my whole maternal
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lineage, nobody, nobody reportedhaving menopausal symptoms.
It just wasn't talked about. And I know that if it had been a
problem, it would have been talked about up down the
sideways because my my maternal line, they were they loved
drama. They.
Loved. Being victims, it was like, so
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if, if they weren't complaining about menopause, it wasn't, It
wasn't there for them. It was not on their radar and I.
Think that was so different withthem and their lifestyles look
at. Look at how different our lives
are, right? Like, you know, you and I are
into quantum biology. A lot of them were, you know,
outdoors. A lot more if they weren't.
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Into quantum biology, yes. That's right, they were out
exposed to sunlight, exposed to the grounding of the earth.
They had a purpose. They were part of a usually a
community or a tribe where, you know, everybody was supportive
of one another. They were not bombarded by
non-native Emfs, by all the toxins in our world, most of
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which we don't even know are there.
You know, we who knows, we probably know a tiny sliver of
what we're being exposed to chemically, electromagnetically.
The earth itself is changing. You know, we've got the change
in the the earth's pulses. So and, and, you know, they went
through things like real horrors, like wars, that is
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true. But then they also had a lot
more natural support, you know, for for those who survived the
wars, there was more natural support.
They were more supported by one another by nature.
And we have really lost that. And so I think that I don't
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think it was such a huge issue. The other thing too, you know,
you may know this as well that there have been documented that
we used to live a lot longer. Our age, age span was our
lifespan was much longer. And so sociologists and, and,
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you know, explorers, people likeGary Young, who founded Young
Living Essential Oils, Weston Price, who is revered for all
his work with indigenous peoples, They would go out into,
you know, areas where indigenouspeople still lived a much more
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natural life, like in the mountainous regions of Mexico
and, and, you know, in the Andesand all sorts of, of wild areas.
And what they discovered was that the people lived a very
long time. And it was documented that women
were still bearing children at ages like 70s, in their 80s, in
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their 90s. And, yeah, and, you know, I and,
and we marvel at the fact that, you know, a woman is having a
baby in her late 40s, You know, so there's so much that we've
lost awareness of. We have lost the wisdom of what
life was like normally and naturally.
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And I, I think that we really need to understand like where we
have come from as a species on this planet to really understand
the context. We, our context is so limited.
It's just like the last few 100 years.
That's it. If if if that at all right?
Or if any of it is even true, because everything they tell us
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is a lie, so we don't know. Anything yes, yes.
So I, I, I do think that a lot of it is mindset when people
have really difficult time with menopause, but also everything
else we're being bombarded by that, you know, our ancestors
never had to deal with. Absolutely, absolutely.
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So what can what can women do toto kind of I mean it this real
resonated with a lot of people. So obviously we have this
internal feeling this that that we know that we are stepping
into our power that this can be because I mean, let's talk about
like the all the good things regarding going through
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menopause. I mean, obviously the first one,
your period stop. You don't have to walk around
with 10 lbs in your bag. You know, you're not going to
have your period for two weeks when you're on vacation, which
always, you know, Murphy's law, right?
So you don't need to worry aboutyour period, which is great.
You don't need to worry about getting pregnant.
So you don't have to worry aboutbirth control.
You don't have to be stressing about that.
That's huge, right? Your children are probably grown
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if you had children. So you have more independence,
you have more time to yourself. You're you're probably setting
your career, you're set it financially.
You probably have your home paidfor a lot of people.
So, you know, this is really a time that you can just come
alive and and finally enjoy life.
Because, you know, we struggle so much to our 20s, our 30s,
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trying to find our way, trying to find our career, trying to
pay off our house, you know, trying to find out what we want
to do. But you know, by the time you
hit 50, it's like you're there, you've arrived, you've you've
done it. Yes, yes.
And I think that you need to be able to envision your life as
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far big, bigger than your family.
You know, you, you have to, you know, people think very
superficially about life after menopause.
They think they're going to be doing the, a lot of them think
they're going to be, you know, still very hands on involved
with their families, but that often is not the case.
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So they lose that role of the grandmotherly role and then they
have no vision, no vision of a life outside of that.
Some are lucky, some maybe pick up on passions they had before
they started having children, like painting or writing or, or
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starting up a business. But it's it, you have to have a
vision of your life, right? You have to, you have to have a
plan. And and even if you don't.
A purpose. And even if you don't, maybe
you've forgotten it or maybe youdon't.
You don't resonate with what youused to dream about.
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It doesn't matter as long as youhave the a little bit of
excitement or joy at the thoughtthat you are going to create a
wonderful life for yourself. Absolutely.
Right. And that you can now go out and
explore. Yeah.
Whatever it is that you, you know, takes your fancy and you
try it on for size, see if it works out.
Right. Yeah, I see.
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I think one of the great things about our time, although
unfortunately it may be changingback again, is that women have
financial freedom for the most part.
I know it's not true of of everyone, but that we have
certainly far more financial independence and our our, you
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know, past generations. Absolutely.
And that, you know, that in and of itself can help women so much
in terms of self esteem, in terms of feeling like they have
agency in their lives and they're not stuck or trapped in
a bad marriage, for example. For sure.
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And. Plus, you don't have any more FS
to give. You know you just don't.
Yeah, right. Right.
And I think that maybe you know,part part of that you tell me
because you should know this probably more than I do, maybe
due to hormonal shifting as well.
Yeah, I think so. We're.
Yeah, we're, you know, you're not, you're not as cuddly,
nurturing, nice. You know, you can tell.
You can you can tell people likeit is, you know, and.
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It's so freeing. It is very freeing when you
don't give a, you know, flying. Flying and, and, and also, you
know, like some, some women complain that, OK, I've become
invisible and it was my beauty that got me attention that got
me, you know, the front row seats at the theater or
whatever. And, and they feel like when
this starts fading, women feel lost, like that's, that was
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their identity, their, their looks, their beauty.
And I think people feel a littlebit lost when they feel like
that's starting to fade. But I think also that part can
also be freeing because then then you have to go deeper and,
and you have to realize that youhave so much more to offer the
world than just, you know, your good looks.
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There's, there's so much more depth and there's so much more
to who you are that you can, youcan discover and others can
discover. And I mean, you know, I can, I
can look at like ladies that aremuch, much older than me and
just look at them and, and see their beauty like they're just
radiate this, this life experience, this wisdom, this,
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you know, the beautiful Gray hair just flowing and it, it can
be so incredible. And I think whatever you have
inside of you is going to radiate to the outside world so
much stronger as we get older. Right.
And and we, you made a great point here.
It's we, it's us individually that have to value ourselves,
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right? That, you know, I think it's
shows a very impoverished self esteem if you're just mourning
the loss of your attractiveness.Like that was a big deal about
how how good you felt about yourself.
Yeah. And I'm not, I'm not being
critical of it because nobody likes looking at themselves in
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the mirror and seeing that they're not as beautiful and
sensual and whatever as they were, you know, 20 years ago.
I don't, I, I'm not being critical of that.
But you're absolutely right. There's far more to you than
your body. And, and you have to walk into a
room and be so certain of your value that you don't care what
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kind of impact you make. You know, you're just totally
confident. You are expecting that you're
going to create the best time you can, but you couldn't care
less if everybody's head turned or didn't when you walked in,
right? But that's.
That's powerful in itself that you have that part of confidence
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where you're not where you're not looking for validation from
complete strangers exactly whistling you on the street like
that absolutely or or liking your, you know, your your photos
on Instagram or whatever. So it the validation doesn't
have to come from the outside. The validation is coming from
inside of you and you know you're.
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Inside, right, right. And, and now it is it's it's
fabulous. And it's about valuing depth in
relationships, depth rather thanthe superficials, right?
That, you know, if I'm invisible, quote UN quote
invisible, you're right. It does give us an extra few
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degrees of freedom. I can go up to anybody on the
street and say hi. Oh, I love your coat.
Where did you get that coat? You know, I could even talk to a
male stranger, you know, you know, within certain limits and
just start up on a conversation with nothing, you know, no
strings attached, no expectations, nothing.
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And he's not going to assume you're hitting on him or trying
to. Yeah.
Absolutely. Absolutely.
So you're, you're not going in with any kind of sexual tension,
you know, because quite frankly,I don't think that in this world
we are very mature about sexual attractiveness.
I don't, you know, I don't thinkwe deal with it very well.
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I think it's all very childish to be perfectly honest.
But if if that if that is gone. Then.
We can be whoever we want to be,you know, and we can have those
deeper relationships without worrying that it's going to go
off in some kind of weird direction.
Yeah, it's true. And even even with friends, you
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know, like we've talked about friendships many times on this
podcast and and it's like you just look for deeper friendships
and connections. You don't want the shallow small
talk, wasting my time talking about the weather.
You know, you learn to like, appreciate and love your own
company. I love my own company like I
will only spend. As you should, but I do be the
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realist person to be with. Well, you know, I'm travelling
by myself. I've never done that before.
I went to Qatar by myself last you know, I'm off on a on a
retreat by myself. I could never even imagine
myself like sitting in a restaurant having a meal by
myself like that to me was insane.
I could never do that. I'm totally fine sitting in a
restaurant eating a meal. I'm totally fine in the
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mountains hiking alone. Like I would even go for a walk
by myself when I was younger, Lucy, I couldn't even go for a
walk by myself. Like if I didn't have anyone to
walk with, I'm not going to go walk alone.
Now I walk alone all day. I don't care.
I don't need anyone to to be with me or I don't.
I need constant company and, andI did like even 10 years ago, I
needed constant company or five years ago.
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I'm not sure why, but now I don't care about that.
I just want to be out there. I want to be living my life.
I go swimming by myself. I go, I go everywhere alone and
I don't mind. And, you know, I'm happy to
spend time with people, people who will uplift me, who whose
company I enjoy will make my life better.
But people that are complaining,bringing me down, you know,
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Debbie, I don't want that. I'd rather be alone.
And you need that maturity. You need to get to this point to
say no, no thank you. Yeah, exactly.
Exactly. And I know you've given up
friendships and relationships, you know, for reason.
And you have. You don't feel bad about it.
You don't feel guilty. No, that's right.
That's right. No, not at all.
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It's so freeing to be able to, well, that person is going to
drop out of my life. OK, that's fine.
Who's next? Yeah, you know, exact attitude.
Who is next? Who's going to align better with
me? And, and that's wonderful.
And you also have, which I thinkis really important for women
who've, who've had children. You have a really healthy
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attitude towards your son. Now I know he's your, he's your
precious baby and he's the center of your, of your
universe. But but it's not like, you know,
you are clinging on to him and his girlfriend, you know, for a
life that you know, I'm sure youdon't guilt him out for not
phoning you every day. Yeah, right.
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So you know, which is another thing I think women,
unfortunately, fall back on whenthey feel they've lost their
identity and they're too afraid of creating one.
They will cling way too much to their children, as if the
children now owe them a life, Right?
That's not good. You need to let their, let your
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kids live their own life. I mean, the nice thing is that
if you have a nice relationship,like I don't have to go looking
for my son. He comes looking for me, you
know, or he comes and wants to spend time with me and
everything. And it's just natural.
It's not forced. It's just how we are.
We're very close. We love each other.
Would never go a day without speaking, but he would never go
a day without calling or, or messaging me.
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So it, it's it and it works perfectly.
But I would never cling on to him.
And, you know, while we were in Spain for the winter, I mean,
you know, we saw each other maybe once a month and we
weren't that far. We were like 20 kilometers away.
But he was busy. I was busy and it's fine.
It doesn't cause me any. You know, I feel secure in my
relationship with him that I don't need to be on to him like
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that. So again, that's another thing
that we can, you know, step intoour power and feel confident in
our relationship, for example, with my husband, like, you know,
we've been together 30 years. Yeah, 30 years in May.
So it's I feel confident that I can go away on a trip by myself
and then he's not going to run off with the housekeeper, you
know, but but you know, when you're younger, you don't the
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housekeeper. Wouldn't want to, probably.
Not she knows him too, but you know what I mean.
Like when you're younger, you worry about that stuff like that
from travelling. When I was younger, you were
insecure. It's like if I leave my husband
for a week because I want to travel and he doesn't for sure
he's going to have, you know, like a house full of women the
second I step out of the house. But now I don't feel like that,
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like I, you know what I mean? Like everything becomes like
more stable, just more normal, calmer.
You calm down. You don't have these crazy, you
know, manic thoughts all the time.
Exactly, exactly. You achieve a state of peace.
You do, You do. And that's, I mean, that's the
best, that's the best part. And why are we not talking about
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this? Why are we not talking about
these things that, you know, this can be an amazing time of
transformation. And the more you look at all
these positive things, I mean, just some of the things that we
mentioned today, and there are probably hundreds of other
things that people can bring into this conversation that that
if we focus on those instead of searching symptoms all the time
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online. Oh my God, I have the hot
flashes. OK, I'm feeling hot.
I think I had a hot flash. OK, I need HRT.
Oh my God, it's all going downhill.
And for sure, I'm like never going to sleep again.
And the anxiety is through the roof and I'm going to get fat
because everyone said you get fat during menopause.
That's just normal. But none of these things are
normal and they don't have to happen and they don't happen in
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certain cultures and they didn'tused to happen.
As you know, we're mentioning like even my mother, she's never
actually her period stopped and that's it.
That's it. Never had a single symptom.
So is it genetic? Is it lifestyle?
Is it our attitude? But for sure, the more you get
into these, OK, I'm in the menopause groups and I'm
listening to all these women with all these symptoms.
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Oh, there's a new symptom that Ididn't know I had.
OK, now I have that symptom as well, right?
I know, right, Because I wear all my symptoms as a badge of
honor. Honor.
I know it's. I am a menopausal woman.
Exactly. And you're creating.
You're creating. You're becoming a tribe of
victims. Yes.
Rather than living your life fully, you are now a victim to
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your symptoms. I mean, really, is that how you
really want to live? And unfortunately, some people
really get off on that. They couldn't imagine living
without their symptoms, without their, as you say, badge of
honor that attracts so much sympathy and empathy from
others, right? Yeah, I mean, suck it up,
butter. I know.
I mean, I know a lot of women are suffering and we're not
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trying to belittle them or anything right away from that.
We are. Yeah, you can.
You can be suffering, but you can still be searching for ways
to balance out your Yes exactly.And you know, and, and just
talk, we talk about in biology alot on this show, but I mean,
honestly, the more connected youcan be to to nature, the more
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time you can spend outside in the sun, less on your blue lit
devices and these toxic indoor lighting and everything.
The more you can live the way our ancestors lived, the less
symptoms you're going to have. I can guarantee you that.
I mean, in fact, I'm writing a whole book about this because
that's how important this is. I can't plug the book yet
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because I'm not not sure what the publisher is, what the title
is going to be, but it's going to be a long title.
I know that for sure. But you know that there are so
many skills that we can learn and we can rewild ourselves back
to how we're meant to be. And that would make this whole
transition so much smoother and without having to deal with all
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these these, you know, uncomfortable issues that come
that could come with menopause, we could be focused on on our
rebirth and absolutely ourselves.
Absolutely. And you know, another thing that
we have to mention, and we did one whole episode on it, is
sexuality. And The thing is that some
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women, to their utter surprise, find they have a sexual
blossoming after menopause, especially if they start feeling
like they're more in control of their lives.
They have more freedom. They don't care what other
people think. And lo and behold, you know,
they especially if they don't have wildly imbalanced hormones,
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you know, it's amazing how they can feel like sexually liberated
and they may have the best sexual relationships after
menopause. I've I've talked to women like
that. Wow.
Tell us more. Well, you know, it's more it's
about really stepping into beingopen to breaking free of all the
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limitations, right? Yes.
So you, maybe your marriage, it has not been working for a while
and you have to delve into why that is.
Maybe it is because the sexual intimacy has become so low on
the priority list that it's it'sdisappeared.
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So a woman in that situation, ifshe really wants to start having
a fulfilled life on the sexual level, she's going to approach
her husband or partner, whatever, and say, listen, we
could be doing better. We could be doing a lot better
than this. And I miss, I miss having those
wild orgasms that we used to have before we had children and
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all these responsibilities. So a woman can really be the
driver of a better sex life. Excuse me.
Or she can just get a boy toy. Yeah.
And so, yeah, you mentioned boy toys.
Some women do that. I find a lot of women are still
interested in having a mature, healthy, monogamous
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relationship. Absolutely.
That still involves sex. Some women are not interested in
that. But I, I want people not to have
the assumption, the misconception that because you
are postmenopausal, your sex life is over.
And that is completely nuts. Your sexuality, I don't want to
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trivialize it, but your sexuality, as you know, Lynn,
because you're, you're a naturopath, your sexuality is a
little bit like a muscle that if, if you don't use it, yes, it
atrophies. Yes.
However, it's still there for you if you want to have a full
enriched sex life, even if you're just doing self
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pleasuring practices that can bevery, very fulfilling and very
rewarding. And it's very healthy.
It's very. Great for the hormones,
absolutely. Great for the hormones and yeah.
So your mood improves, your vitality improves, your
motivation improves, everything improves.
Yeah, absolutely. So to get back to mindset, you
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know, just because, yeah, you'vehit menopause, it's not like
your life is over. Your sex life is over.
Really, nothing's over. Like look at it as a new, as a
new beginning, as a new start, as a revival, A rewiring, you
know, like a rewilding session where it's like you have this
chapter 2, the the Chinese call it your second spring.
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That that sounds so good. No, you're second spring.
It's like you're, you're coming alive, you're flourishing, and
you have all, I mean, what a beautiful way for the Chinese to
look at it, right? Well, the Chinese.
The ancient Chinese had practices that were all about
longevity and sexual vitality and maintaining optimal health
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throughout the lifespan, right? They were very much into that.
And, and again, that's somethingthat much of that has been lost
to us. Ayur beta, Ayur beta.
And then, you know, here's Western medicine, you know, it's
like just trying to get rid of you as fast as possible.
Absolutely pay your pension, right, Right.
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So it's quite sad, but any good anyway?
I mean, I think just to summarize this episode, we just
wanted to give this like a nice positive twist because I think
there's just so much talk about the hard part, the sad part, the
the symptoms, all of these things.
But I think it's also really important to focus on the good
side. And and like with everything in
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life, if there is a good side and there's a bad side and
whichever side we focus on, that's the side that's going to
grow and evolve. And so it's really, really
important to focus your mindset on your.
Absolutely. Yeah.
Anything else you want to say inclosing Lucille to this?
No, I, I, I would just invite any listeners who've had a
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really good experience of life postmenopausal to leave us
comments about, you know, their some inspiring comments about
how they've been able to have their second spring.
Yeah, we'd love that. We'd love hearing from you guys.
Thank you so much again for watching this episode and for
sticking with us. Don't forget to like subscribe
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and we will see you guys in the next episode.
Bye everyone. Bye everyone.
Thank you for tuning into the Rewilded Human podcast.
We hope you're leaving with insights to reconnect with your
natural, vibrant self. Remember, the information shared
here is for educational and inspirational purposes only and
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is not a substitute for medical advice.
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