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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
This is Taylor Talk with your host Sammy Rose. Age
management and appearing younger than we are is a huge
reason why so many of us are interested in skincare.
Joining us on the podcast today to talk about age
management skin health, we have dermal therapist and nutritionist Yads Couchy.
Welcome to the podcast, Yads.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Hello, thank you for having me. I'm excited to be
here now.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I first found you through your Instagram. Just remind me again,
what is your Instagram handle?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
My Instagram handle is the Ads Couchy Skin.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
So there, I saw that you have so many amazing
skincare tips, and today we are going to focus on
age management. So talk us through what you would say
your main skincare tips are when it comes to age
management through our skincare at home. I'm going to assume
we're going to start with some kind of sunscreen.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Sunscreen is the corner stone of a skin care utine. Definitely.
I feel like a lot of people don't either use enough,
skip it all together, or mix it into the foundation,
or which dilutes the effectiveness of a sunscreen. But definitely
if you're not wearing sunscreen, then you are going to
be more at risk of prematurely aging. And if age
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management is a concern, you need to be wearing a sunscreen.
So that would be definitely like the first thing you
need in your skin care routine, alongside like foundational products
like a cleanser which obviously is going to remove your
makeup and make sure that your skin stays clean, and
a moisturizer that is obviously going to hydrate and moisturize
the skin. So that is the best place to start,
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and then obviously you can build from there, depending on
what your skin needs.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, yeah, it's with that quickly you mentioned there, If
you don't mind me diving on that. You said not
to mix your sunscreen and your foundation, So should you
kind of It might sound really dumb and obvious, but like,
obviously a layer of sunscreen and then you foundation and
make sure that they're separate.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yes, yes, So the sunscreen should always be the last
step of your skin care utine. And it's not a
dumb question at all. Like a lot of people are
just confused because there's so much information out there about skincare,
but cleanse in the morning, pop on a serum that
targets your concerns. Your moisturizer SPF is the last step,
so never mix it into anything, and that is how
you're going to get the adequate protection. So we need
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about a quarter of a tea spoon for your face,
a half a tea spoon for face, neck, and ears,
which is what is recommended by the TDA. But there's
a lot of information. It's the last step of your
skin care routine.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So I've heard retinol is a product and an ingredient
that I've seen pop up on my Instagram feed a lot.
Do you think that should also be a part of
a skincare routine if you are looking at reducing the
signs of aging.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Definitely. Retinal is a derivative of vitamin A, so vitamin
A is more of the umbrella term and there are
different derivatives that kind of sits under retinol. You would
have heard of because it's very popular, so it is
in a lot of products. You need to find the
right strength and the right product for your own skin.
So this says where a lot of people tend to
go wrong because they just buy the highest strength of
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vitamin A or go straight to trettonoen which is you know,
retinoic acid. You need to really find a product that
you can use consistently that's not going to impact your
barrier or sensitize the skin. It definitely is one of
the ingredients in the skincare world. I guess it has
the most science behind it and the most evidence, so
it is very very important for age management, unless, of course,
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you're pregnant, which we don't use vitamin A when we're pregnant,
but that should be an ingredient that you could have
in your routine alongside things like chemical exfoliant. So a
chemical exfoliant is obviously going to increase that skin cell
turnob in the skin as well alongside the vitamin A,
and the same goes with the chemical exfollance. So yes,
you've got to find the right products and ingredients for
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your own skin, which is where sometimes having a chat
to a general therapist can be really beneficial instead of
trying to figure it all out yourself. Because these ingredients
are in a lot of products and a lot of
people tend to come and see me and they're overusing
chemical expolience and overusing actives without even realizing that they're
doing that. So it's really important to know where your
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actives are and your routine and what products you're using
and why, because a lot of people don't understand why
they're using their products. Or I'll say, why are you
using you know, a vitamin C and you've got a
really you know, you've got acne concerns and obviously the
products aren't working for their skin, and they're like, I
have no idea why. I just thought I needed to
be using it. So always when you're planning out of
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sincare routine, if it's age management focused, if you're focusing
on pigment, acne, whatever, always think about products that are
actually going to target those concerns, because that's how you're
going to get the results.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Oh yeah, definitely. I've been there and overuse oh my gosh,
my skin barrier, especially like during COVID, and you know
you've got like, you click happy skin care products, so
you're like, oh, you know, I deserve that, and I'm
sitting at home and constantly scrolling like online skincare or whatever,
and you just end up using like ten things in
your routine you only need like three or four.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
So yeah, and I'm always very big on minimizing routines.
I have a lot of clients that come in and
they're using you know, three, four different serums, and I'm like, well,
why why are we using so many? Like you could
be actually saving money by just investing in a couple
of really great serums and minimizing your steps. Because the
thing with beauty is the marketing and the products. There's
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such as it's just so quick, there's so many new
products every single week, and because of social media, it's
really easy to just be like, oh, wow, that person
has really great skin. I'm going to buy what they're using.
But skin doesn't work that way. Fortunately. You need using
products consistently. You need to be using the right products
for your own skin, and just because something works for
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one person doesn't mean it's going to necessarily work for you.
So yeah, there's just a lot to it that people
don't really understand when they're trying to do everything themselves.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Of Course, something I was really interested in and I
saw it pop up again on your Instagram. You mentioned
that for age management, micro needling and fractionated lasers. Now
I've seen similar to retinols. I've seen a lot about
needling on my socials lately, So what is micro needling
and fractionated lasers? Please explain.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
So we're basically injuring the skin. And when we're injuring
the skin, whether we're doing it with hate via the
laser or we're doing it with needles, your skin then
goes through the wound healing process and obviously bruce collagen production,
and it's really really effective to kind of keep your
skin young and healthy. Needling is a really really popular
treatment at the moment, predominant because it comes with very
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minimal downtime, so you can come in do a needling
treatment and obviously go back and live your life, which
is really important I think to a lot of my clients.
But it's really important to have your skin prepped and
not every skin is right for needling, not every skin
is right for laser, And you're going to get the
best results from clinical treatments if you have the right
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home care, because sometimes I feel like people want to
do these treatments and they think it's like a quick
fix to something, but they're using like some random products
they've made or someone gives them and it's just it
doesn't You're not going to get the best results that way.
So that kind of works senergistically, kind of like when
you go to the gym and eat well at home,
Like you're not going to do one without the other.
It's you're going to come into printic and get a
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workout for your face, which is that's what essentially what
skin treatments are. We speed up the skin cell turn
of a ray. We kind of help you boost your
results a lot quicker than you could at home, but
you need to have that home care component because that's
how you're going to maintain them in between visits. So
needling and fractionatid lasers are really great for age management
because obviously they boost collagen production, and collagen is what
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keeps our skin firm, plump, and healthy, and we need
more of it. We lose a lot of it as
we get older. You know, when you see a baby
and they have like beautiful, terrible cheeks, and their skin
cell turn rate is actually quite quick, so that slows
down as we get older. And obviously we don't notice
how pigment till we get older, and things like that
can actually make our appearance look a little more aged
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than we are. So treating pigmentation is really important for
age management because sometimes it's just that dullness or the
sun damage that people want to get rid of. And
when you get rid of that and even at the
skin tone, you can actually appear a lot younger as well.
So lots of different things that we can do in
clinic to kind of keep your skin healthy.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, yes, you're also a nutritionist and you talk a
lot about it on your page. Obviously the things that
we can do to our skin, But how important is
it in terms of, like I love you saying on
your Instagram, eat the rainbow and have a balanced site?
How important is that when it comes to I guess
aging in our skin care.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
There is actually a lot of evidence that supports eating
well with healthy aging, and it's not necessarily directly linked
to the skin, but it does actually help support the skin.
So we need to be eating a well balanced diet
to obviously age well. Like it's going to keep us healthy,
it's going to prevent you know, chronic diseases that are
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really you know, they're everywhere, like cardiovascular disease, like diabetes.
All of these things can be linked back to the
diet and if we have a balanced diet and kind
of know how to eat well to feel good rather
than focus solely on how we look. I think feeling
really healthy and strong and having the energy to kind
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of live your life is really really important when it
comes to your overall health, and that links back to
the skin. Obviously, when it comes to treating concerns like
inflammatory concerns like roseasha and acne, diet does play a role,
but again that's quite personalized. Everyone's quite different with how
that affects their skin, but it is really important to
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look at the internal factors. And you know, there's two
different types of people that are seen clinics. Some people
come in and they can eat whatever they want and
you probably know and they've got great skin and they're
just like they've just got it going on. And then
you have the other type of people that come in
and they will look at a piece of chocolate and
they're like, wow, I've got like ten people.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
That's literally me in a nutshell.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
It's so hard. Is it's so personal And yeah, that's
why the nutrition side of my clinic kind of exists.
And I think it's really important for people to know
that it does play a role because you know, I've
got four kids as well, So sleep is a huge
one for people because obviously when we sleep, our skin
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cells regenerate, and sometimes when you're not sleeping, that can
play into how your skin looks the next day. You
look tired and you look dull, and then not only that,
but then you're craving sugar because you want that energy.
And like, all of it's kind of connected. So I
feel like, yes, we can talk about the tropical skin care,
which is very important obviously, but then there's also the
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internal component for a lot of people, which is going
to play into our overall health and the way that
we feel. And yeah, they both kind of are connected.
Eating a balanced diet is really important, not skipping meals,
making sure that you're eating the rainbow, like eating a
diverse range of fruits is very important for gut health.
You know, your gut is like a little forest, that's
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kind of how I describe it. You've got to feed
it every single day, So if you're not feeding it,
you're not going to have a really healthy gut. And
a healthy gut is connected to our skin health, so
everything's connected. It's I don't think it's like safe to say,
like we need to focus on one thing. We just
do need to be focusing on eating fruits and vegetables.
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I think that's the most important thing for people, because
I remember when I was doing my Masters, I think
there was a start that only five percent of Australian
adults eat the recommended dietary intake of veggies and that
is so low to me, and it blows my mind.
And even when I talk to people sometimes they will
tell me I know what to do, like I know
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you currently do, Like it's not rocket science. It's just
sometimes it's confusing because it's all these different people on
social media saying, oh, it's a bad you need to
only eat meat, you need to eat these and it's
just like so confusing. But realistically, it is just about
being eating a balanced diet. You don't need to, you know,
fear amonger food. You just need to know how to
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balance out your meal so you're getting a decent amount
of protein at every single meal, You're getting a decent
amount of fiber, you have your healthy fats in there,
and all of that will just help you feel better
because when you're eating a diverse range of fruits, and veggies.
You are going to get getting a diverse range of
macro and micro nutrients from the protein and everything else.
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So everything is connected.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, well yeah, the ads. I have learned so much
from you just in the space of what twelve thirteen minutes,
and I could just pick your brain for another gosh,
for hours, I think. But so that our listeners can
find you and get a bit addicted to your reels
and your posts like I have. Where are you on
the socials again?
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I am on Instagram and TikTok. Yeah, it's catchy skin
and you can find everything all my articles that I
do on my Instagram. You can book into my clinic
on my Instagram, and I'm always pumping out content.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah. Content, it's so so good. Well, yes, thank you
so so much for chatting with me.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I loved it. Thank you for having me