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Speaker 1 (00:02):
every day.
Hey, it's jen the builder andcory, and welcome everyone to
take the elevator.
It's so good to have you hereit's so good to be here.
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Right.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
End of January and I
can be obsessed over the dates,
I think because they're justgoing by so fast.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Well, we can be
obsessed over the dates for a
couple of reasons, but yeah,they are going fast and
sometimes it seems like fasterthan others, right?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yeah, absolutely so
first.
First, let me start off with ahappy lunar new year to people
who celebrate new year on the29th oh yeah yeah, so you know
where I'm going.
It's year of the snake.
Talked about this, yes, and,cory, I know you're gonna
probably share more on this, ohyeah I'm oh yeah, I'm going
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crazy right now, but SheriffSlinky Snake boy.
He was playing hard to get.
I did not know if we were goingto make the deadline for it to
actually be available for LunarNew Year.
Yeah, that was a trip of ajourney.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
It got really
difficult for a second there and
just to share a little bitabout that.
So we thought we were havingsome issues with Amazon.
Turns out that the issues wereon our half.
User.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
User error.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, so we fixed the
error.
So we thought, and we just keptrunning into some issues brick
walls, roadblocks and road bumpsand when you're in that kind of
situation and time is short,you just feel like man, I'm
never going to get this rightand I'm about to have to pay
some big money to get out ofthis.
And I'm pleased to say wedidn't have to come out of
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pocket to get it fixed and itmade it out by the Lunar New
Year.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
That's right, we
learned the hard way.
But you know what I love?
It was quite a bit of stress, alittle bit of pressure.
Right, there's this book.
We announced it, oh my God.
We said 111.
We said, just kidding, 117.
And that didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Just kidding again.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, and it's like
we don't really know when didn't
happen.
Just kidding again, yeah, andit's like we don't really know
when, um, and so what I loved isthat you and I I feel elevated
into the next level ofcollaborating and just figuring
it out together, and wesupported one another and we
didn't go into space offrustration no to where we'd
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have regrets about what we saidor how we acted.
You know that kind of way, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
And I have to say
this because everyone that asked
me about the book, except oneperson it was only one, but
everybody else said iseverything okay?
Are you okay, is everything allright?
Like they were very concerned.
There was only one person thatsaid, oh, I thought you were
having a book come out and I waslike, hmm, and that doesn't
bother me.
(03:09):
I'm just.
You know, that doesn't botherme at all and I expect that from
certain people because that'stheir job.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
You know, everyone
has I love how you said that's
their job Everyone has.
Well, what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
by that Everyone has.
Well, what do you?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
mean by that?
Everyone has something they'resupposed to be doing.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
That's funny.
Okay, so that's a hugeannouncement.
I have one too, so hopefullyyou all have had some highlights
.
In the last week I got to meeta good friend's baby for the
first time.
Oh yeah, yeah, I met littleSabrina and it for the first
time.
Oh yeah, yeah, I.
Um, I met little sabrina and itwas her first time in a
restaurant and she did so well.
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She just chilled in her um babyseat, she wasn't fussy, she let
me hold her.
I had a few moments with her,smiling and just we were talking
.
You know we were connecting andI got great pictures.
But she's so cute, gory Sabrina, I it was.
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It was a pleasure meeting her.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Wow, incredible.
I'm glad to hear that I was notthere and I, um, I wasn't
supposed to be there actually.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
But you know, I'm
just saying I wasn't there, I
wasn't supposed to be thereactually, but you know, I'm just
saying I wasn't there.
And then we have another friendwho will probably have her baby
this week.
Oh, wow, yeah, just like babieseverywhere.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
We had a baby,
Sheriff Slinky Snake.
Yes, we sure did Like realhuman babies.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yes, and one of the
exciting things I got to do
maybe by the time you hear this,if you're listening to this
later on in the week is I had achance to create an author's
page on Amazon.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
And so just all these
fun things.
That's making me understand thereality of you're a writer.
This is what writers do.
You know, and you have to be sothoughtful when you're talking
about yourself to engage thereader and explain how it is
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that you became a children'sbook writer right, because
everyone wants to know that whatyou're about.
So it's it's been fun.
We'll see how it's received.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, and Jen's going
to be starring on podcast
coming up real soon here, soit's a it's a lot of it's a lot,
oh you're talking about?
Speaker 1 (05:35):
yeah, I got invited
to be a guest at another podcast
.
I'll have that information.
Is that what you're talkingabout?
Yes, yes, yes, that's exciting.
And I get to talk aboutconfidence in writing a book.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, so it's a lot
happening for Jen, for us, and
we are here for all of it.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah.
So I'm here for what you'reabout to put out as the producer
of today's episode.
So hit me, hit us.
Here we go, let's go.
So hit me, here we go, let's go.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
So this is what we've
been up against.
We've been up against beingstretched, being pulled in many
different directions and how tohandle that being stretched
beyond belief at times.
And then there's a goodstretching where you're just
being put through the numbers,so to speak, and then there's a
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bad stretching when someone'sjust exhausting every ounce of
your being, and so we're justgoing to cover a little bit of
that and we're going to talk inrelationship form and friendship
form and even in job form,because you know you can be
stretched and all those thingsin a good and bad way, and it's
up to you how you respond, howyou show up and then what the
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end result of that is.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, and hearing you
say that, corey, I think of
strain.
So there's stretch versusstrain, right?
So I think stretching is moresustainable and it's not causing
you harm or danger, whereaswhen you're strained it's like
an overdoing it or it can leadto burnout yeah, it's like that
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piece of plastic that you pulltoo hard and now it has the
ripples in it right, you don'twant to go back to its original
form, right?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
You don't ever want
to be there in your life where
you're just feeling you knowsuper exhausted.
Yeah.
So, jen, I'm going to start withyou and hit you with the first
question, because I know thatyou've been stretched
tremendously in somerelationships and friendships
and you can jump in wherever youfeel comfortable.
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I don't want to make you feellike you wherever you feel
comfortable, I don't want tomake you feel like you got to
tell something that you don'twant to talk about.
But let's start with maybe afriendship that's exhausted you
and pushed you beyond yourbarriers.
And let me just paint thepicture just a little bit so we
can be clear on what thatstretching could possibly be
like.
On what that stretching couldpossibly be like.
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So in friendships, you know,it's usually a give and take, a
lot of times it's 50-50.
Sometimes you know the numbersgo a little bit different, but
then you get to that point, towhere people are asking you to
do things that you wouldn'tnormally do and they're asking
more frequently.
And then, before you know it,they're always asking and then
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you find yourself in this weirdposition where you're always
going the extra mile and, nomatter how much you do, it's
never enough and it's justyou're giving and giving and
giving.
Can you stop by the store andpick this up and bring it over?
I need you to pick up my kidfrom school.
I'm running late to pay my bill.
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Can you stop by my mom's house?
And it's just more and more.
And what you begin to realizeis, no matter how much I do,
they're still going to be an askand I'm never going to satisfy
this, this desire to satisfy.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Right, so it sounds
like the strain.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
The strain.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Okay, thank you,
because I want to clarify that,
because I've had friendshipsthat have stretched me to where
I'm uncomfortable, but it'sactually been something that's
helped me grow and it wasrewarding.
Yeah, but we're time out.
You have stretched me so thinthat now it's strained not just
me but our, our friendship thusstretched beyond belief
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stretched beyond belief.
Yeah, so the one that comes tomy mind is I was in a friendship
with this girl for quite someyears, and this was a friendship
that just brought me so muchjoy because we had our.
Our sense of humor was the same, and you know that kind of way,
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when you're in a relationshipwith someone, you have, like
secret words and codes that onlyyou and this person understand,
so it makes it even feel thatmuch more special yeah, because
only you guys know that languageyeah, and she was invited into
our home many times, just likefamily, and then me, vice versa.
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You know, I knew her kids well,she knew mine, and, and what
became strenuous in it is that Istarted to feel like she was
taking the friendship forgranted and instead of talking
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to me, maybe about things thatwere bothering her, that were
stressing her out or maybe evenstretching her, she took it to
other places, and so there was alot of backbiting, a lot of
gossip.
That was very hurtful, and itbecame sharing lies, things that
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didn't exist, or she would addto the story to make it more
intense when it didn't need tobe.
You know that kind of way.
Right.
And what straightened me isCorey, when she acted
inappropriately with you onetime.
Oh and.
I didn't know how to processthat.
(11:19):
I said this is really happeningright in front of me.
Right.
And I didn't even know how toreact and really what kept me
from reacting was the fact thatshe was my friend.
But, um, yeah, it that hurt.
It was confusing.
I didn't understand it, andthen come to find out later.
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We just kind of outgrown thespace that we were in and just
needed room to breathe elsewhere, and I wish there was maturity
enough to say that right,instead of bring the friendship
through the ringer.
And we went a couple yearswithout talking and we, you know
(12:02):
, we made amends, but it's notanything like it was before at
all Right.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
No, I remember that
time period and that's why, if
you heard those of you listeningshocking my voice, that moment
was a little shocking and evenreliving it was a little bit
overwhelming for me.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
For me too.
Reliving it was a little bitoverwhelming for me.
For me too, like I, I justreliving that and thinking about
it put I could feel it in mybody, right like my breathing
changed.
My heart felt heavy.
Yeah, my brain got a littlefoggy, because going through
that that was rough.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I don't even know the
time spent in that space, but
any time spent in there was tootoo much, too long, right well,
I'm gonna go a slightlydifferent direction, just
because uh, for those listening,you know, everyone can kind of
relate to a friendship beingstretched like that, to a point
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that it shouldn't be, orstrained, you like the word.
Strain better, right?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
yeah, because I don't
mind the stretch right I think
stretching is actually good foryou it might be healthy, right?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
yeah, okay, so I'm
going to talk about a strain in
the in the workplace and, um,this was a job years ago.
Um, I've been in my current jobfor eight years now and this
was before that.
But what I noticed about thisparticular job is like, no
matter how much they ask you todo, it was always going to be
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some more.
So if it was come in at 7 andyou get comfortable coming in at
7 am, eventually it's going togo to 6 and then 5.
And if you got too comfortablewith that, it would go the
opposite direction.
So now you're coming in at 8 or9.
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The workload would constantlychange.
Was that there was enjoymenthappening to see people scramble
, to put people under thepressure of not knowing what's
next and keeping us off balance.
And that strain had began totake its toll, not only on me
(14:20):
but on you.
You came to me and said look, Iget it.
You got to work, but the hoursare changing.
You're home some nights, you'renot home other nights.
You never know when you'regoing to go in or how long
you're going to be there.
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And the conditions were inhumaneat times, a lot of times.
Conditions were very strenuous,very, very strenuous, very,
very strenuous.
And I found myself even at onepoint at a breaking point and
anybody that has ever been tothat breaking point where you're
so to the limit that you can'teven cry, you can't even weep,
you can't even moan, you justlike and I remember getting off
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a 16-hour shift.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
It's like emotion
paralysis.
It sounds like right.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yeah, I don't know
what to do with this.
I remember getting off a16-hour shift and saying to
myself I can't do this anymore,and it was just about summertime
, and so it had began to heat upreally, really bad.
And during this particular day,I was just like you know what I
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don't know if I can do this,but this is what I'm going to
try to do and I walked throughthe door and they told me that
my assignment had ended at thisparticular place.
I'm so sorry and oh the joy inmy heart.
Yeah, yeah, I just went.
You know bonkers inside like,thank the Lord, I'm being
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released.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Being rescued.
Being rescued yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
And just to give you
a little bit more relief and
understanding shortly thereafter, is when I started my current
job, which was an answer toprayer.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah, how was that
like to relive that.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I could feel that,
that the warmth and the heat of
the back of that trailer that Iwas in, yeah, the warmth and the
.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I remember, corey.
You lost so much weight soquickly and you just look what's
the word Dilapidated?
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Like you were just, I
lost 12 pounds in one week from
working in a trailer that wasliterally 125 degrees yeah, yeah
, okay.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
So that strain, yeah,
what a what a weight.
Let's just get that out of theway.
I'm glad we had theconversation so you can really
see what we're talking about,because when you're talking
about stretching, you know Ilet's just use some metaphors
here like when you go intophysical stretching and you do
it, um, whether it be beforeworking out or straight when you
get up out of bed, like it hasamazing healing properties to
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stretch yourself, um, in thatway, um, it reduces the risk of
injury, right, actually.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Right.
And then there's a stretchingthat if you're bouncing or
jerking you can risk injury andpossibly a long-term injury if
you do something too extreme.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah, yeah, but the
stretch that we're talking about
is a stretch that's good foryou, yeah, and it's actually the
kind that when, when practice,it elevates your growth.
In fact, without the stretch,you stay in this comfortable
zone and there really is nogrowth.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
so, um, when's the
last time that you've stretched
yourself, corey, in this context, Every day I make it a point to
, and I know people are like,yeah, can this guy really?
Absolutely.
So I'm learning every day andI'm pushing myself to learn
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every day.
And I love it because what I'mlearning is that if you allow
yourself to get comfortablecomfortable with the way you eat
, comfortable with the peopleyou surround yourself with,
comfortable with the goals youhave and the dreams you're
trying to obtain, if you getcomfortable in that, then all
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you'll do is accomplish thosethings and you'll never move
past that.
But if the goal is all, if thegoalpost is always being pushed
10 yards out, 20 yards out, 50yards out, you never get
comfortable with that stretch.
And it feels good to know thatI'm still going to go a little
bit further.
I still got a little further togo.
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Retirement is not in my future.
I don't want to retire, I wantto push myself because I can
sleep when I'm dead.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
That's it.
That's an amazing principle,not one that's lived a lot,
especially in our country.
I'm just going to put out therelike I read this book on the
Japanese culture and howretirement really isn't the
thing.
They continue to work onpersonal projects, their own
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businesses.
Yeah.
There's still this form of getup and do get up and go right
because it gives them purpose.
You know what I mean and Ithink you and I like, if we ever
just sat still and retired anddidn't do anything, that would
be so weird what would that looklike?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
that would be very
strange for me personally.
Just to be like okay, I don'thave anything to do today, I'm
not going anywhere, I'm justvacation.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Does that sound
appealing to?
you like, absolutely yeah,vacation is a necessity yeah, I
think even when we vacation,there's still the learning
perspective, like let's justtake in everything new so we can
grow, and right, and so I.
I just love that concept.
Um, in my world, the stretchingyourself, especially when
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working with other people, isjust developing new skills so
you can grow in that and yourtalent.
Like some people say, I'mafraid to speak in public or I
get stage fright, so a stretchthere might not be.
Like, well, I want you to geton stage tomorrow and just do
the thing.
That could lead to strain veryeasily, but a stretch would be
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well, what about taking a coupleof classes on public speaking,
right.
Or there's this thing that wedo at work Toastmasters, right,
taking classes, for people dothis a lot now is learning
another language.
Or stretching yourself to learnhow to dance.
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Or maybe you know one dance butyou learn another one.
You know that kind of wayYou're stretching yourself to
play an instrument.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, that kind of
stuff for me is fun.
Playing instrument yeah, thatkind of stuff for me is fun.
Um, I'll tell you one thingthat I I definitely practice and
stay uh up on my chops is umwriting a lot of times you know
people think oh, if you're awriter, you just naturally know
how to write, or you write verywell.
but it's an art form and youhave to practice.
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Just like you have to practiceplaying your instrument, you've
got to practice writing as well.
I even learned something aboutrappers Rappers practice rapping
, they practice their breathing,they practice their endurance.
On freestyle rhyming.
Yeah.
And in the same way I'm doingthat with writing, I'm
practicing metaphors.
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I'm practicing that withwriting.
I'm practicing metaphors, I'mpracticing styles of writing,
I'm practicing how to intensifythe story, how to bring more
emotion to the story.
So it's a continuous growthpattern that you're going
through and stretching.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, I heard this
one rapper who will take a
random word, or someone willthrow them a word, and they just
it's like brainstorming all thethings that would rhyme with
that.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Right, so when it's
beautiful and it grows your
vocabulary so tremendously.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I need to do that.
I think that would be a lot offun.
And so let's talk aboutstretching others real quick,
because I really I know this isyour show and you've produced
this, but I love when you havesomeone in your life that helps
you grow by challenging you,mentoring you, encouraging you
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to rise above and reach pastyour limitations, and that
person for me obviously is you.
Oh, thank you.
Like you will stretch me andI'll just.
I'll give an example.
We share our to-do lists and,corey, you know what is on my
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list and how certain things getbumped down and I'll find
something more fun to do.
And so you said, yeah, you know, you need to create your
author's page.
I'm like, great, yeah, I'mgoing to do that today.
And you said, yeah, I'm goingto sit there with you so while
you do it.
And, um, so it was.
It was like holding me to today, because it was supposed to be
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last week and the week beforeand the way you do that.
So I'm a very social being, andwhen I have to do things and I'm
going to tell on myself alittle bit here and people who
are close to me know this buteven when I'm working alone or
studying, and I'm alone in thehouse.
I'll put on YouTube like astudy with me video, so it feels
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like someone's there, someone'sthere working with me and, um,
the noise kind of comforts me.
So you brought your iPad You'reso cute and you sat at my desk
and you were doing your thingand you weren't telling me what
to do and I read it to you andyou gave me some advice on
rewriting some pieces.
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But you helped me stretch goal.
Or like I'm writing a book nowcalled Just an LVN and the
stretch goal is have it done andpublished by the end of the
year.
Right, that's a stretch for me.
People are probably thinkingit's a year.
This was a project from a fewyears ago yeah and I'm learning
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that I can be very candid, veryopen, very free flowing when it
comes to happier, more positiveemotions, but when I have to
talk about emotions that have todo with sadness, especially
around death, so grief, I don'tstay in those spaces very long
in my writing.
So you're like, okay, totallyengage with you there in the
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beginning, and then you broughtthis part up and you just kind
of rushed through it and so youare helping me by stretching me
that when those uncomfortableemotions come up, like today,
remember someone shared with mean idea that felt like our idea
and I'm like, oh well, whatever,and you're no, no, no, let's go
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back to that because that kindof feels like stealing yeah,
we're gonna live in that for aminute yeah, so you really
stretch me to live in thosespaces.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, and so I'm
encouraging anyone listening.
If you're struggling with beingstretched, find a stretch
partner.
Find someone that's willing togo, and don't look for the
person that's just going tosoothe your needs or your
temperament or your desire forthe moment.
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Find someone that's reallygoing to push you to that next
level in a good way and you knowwhen it's good because it feels
good.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
It feels right, it
feels exciting.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Not overwhelming and
relieving.
Yeah, that's what a goodstretch partner does.
It's relief to you when youexplain what you're going
through and they give you thatlittle extra oomph to get you
going.
Also, what Jen was saying knowyour own boundaries, know what
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you can handle on your own andwhat you can't handle on your
own, because it's never fun tokeep running into that brick
wall, because that's your limit,that's as far as you go, that's
as far as you've ever gone, andso doing it repetitively builds
a thicker wall.
It doesn't help you get throughit any better.
So that's why the stretchpartner is always going to be
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beneficial to you when you'reattempting to do these things
write a book, ride a bike, singa song, play a guitar.
We know YouTube offers videosfor just about everything.
That's a good way toincorporate a stretch partner as
well.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yeah, one of my
stretch goals right now.
So let me give some context.
I work with team members andleaders on goal setting, right,
and so there's this verywell-known method of smart,
smart goals, smarter goals.
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When you're a stretch partnerand you get to that ER piece
where you evaluate the goal andthe R this one we do so well,
corey, for each other, forourselves and and everyone else
we work with is that rewardmoment, the celebrate, the
moment you know that you, man,you just hit that goal.
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And these stretch goals are, Ifeel, a collection of small
moments, intentional practicesevery day to get to the bigger
goal.
Right, because, again, notoverwhelming, but I was going to
share one of my stretchers.
Oh, so this is literal.
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My voice has not, my vocal cordshave not been stretched because
of the surgery.
I didn't like the way itsounded, so therefore I wasn't
singing.
But then I did a lot of singingon my own, like in my room when
I'm doing study with me, and itdoesn't matter to me how I
sound by myself, I just kind oflet it rip.
And the other day, withoutthinking, I sang a song in front
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of you and you were smartenough to not say anything and
mess me all up over it.
But yeah, so I'm hittingcertain registers that I
couldn't hit before, and yougave me a stretch goal, because
we have a dream.
We talked about dreams lastweek on Take the Elevator, and
part of that dream is not onlyjust talking on stage together,
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which we thoroughly enjoy andlove.
We have a dream of going backto being able to sing together,
play the piano, you play thebass and bring those pieces on
stage with us, and so thestretch goal here is get myself
on stage again singing with you.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yeah, and I'm just
going to share this real quick
because it's important tocelebrate these mild markers
that you're hitting.
And so when you hit the mildmarker to be on stage, we're
going to celebrate.
We're going to have a greattime, just as we celebrated when
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you finished your author's page.
We had to live in that momentand I had to point out to you
man, you did this, look at that.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah you're like how
does that feel?
Are you understanding that thisis happening right now?
Yeah, because again I candownplay things, especially when
it comes to me, and so that wasreally great.
I really love having you as mystretch partner.
It's quite cool and, you know,I think about us being on stage
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and you have to visualize itright.
You have to be able to see itand even if it doesn't come out
perfect, the fact that we'resinging again, like let that be
the thing.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yeah, let it be so.
Guys, if you're listening andit's something that you're
trying to do, a goal you'retrying to accomplish, and you
got that stretch partner or thatperson that you're talking, to
put it out there and see whereit lands, and then allow that
person to give you one of theirgoals or one of their dreams
that they're trying toaccomplish and and you can
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stretch them or be a stretchpartner for them, and I guess
that's the term now we're goingwith, because, uh, it sounds
like it fits yeah, and I lovethat prompt and I love that
challenge and I to I'mdefinitely taking it to heart
and taking it with me this week.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Nice.
It's a great show.
Thanks for doing this, not aproblem.
Well, you know us to take theelevator.
We say look up and let'selevate, elevate every day,
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elevate every day, elevate everyday.