June 23, 2025 • 20 mins
Something different awaits you in this raw, unscripted conversation about navigating life during turbulent times. When global headlines overwhelm and social media feeds fill with disturbing images, how do we maintain our humanity, hope, and sanity?
Diving deep into the emotional impact of current events, we share personal reflections on witnessing others' suffering and finding balance in our responses. The conversation explores how faith serves as an anchor during times of uncertainty, while acknowledging that everyone must discover their own path to inner peace. Rather than presenting definitive answers, we offer vulnerability, sharing our own struggles with maintaining perspective and the evolution of our thinking.
The heart of our message emerges in the power of human connection: those precious moments of authentic interaction that remind us we're not alone.
Consider this episode a gentle invitation to reflect on what grounds you during difficult times. Whether through prayer, meaningful conversation, or intentional presence with loved ones, we all need strategies to weather life's storms.
Look up, and let's elevate!
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Hey, it's Jen the Builder and Corey, and hello
everyone.
This is a bit of a differenttype of episode, I feel today.
This is a bit of a differenttype of episode, I feel today.
Just wanted to connect with youall.
I don't have any notes, corey,you don't have any notes.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Nope.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
And man, there's just so much going on and we thought
what is it that people need tohear, or what's going to bring
them the best type of messagingthat makes sense for all of us
today?
yeah and I think where it reallylands is how do we find peace
(00:56):
or how do we keep sane.
However, you want to look atthis during times of not just
challenge, but hard times,difficult moments, and when
you're getting, when you feellike, okay, I can absorb what's
happening right now.
Then there's another layer andanother one and it just feels
(01:17):
heavy, Right.
I think that's what this is ishow do you keep light when it's
heavy?
How do you keep hopeful whenthings seem hopeless?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I guess that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah.
So, corey and I really wantedto just reach into our hearts
and just speak to you people, topeople, about how this looks,
how we get through it.
Um and so, corey, you hadshared with me some really cool
stuff, and I love how you justwent back in time.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Can you let us in your world?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Well, can we kind of lay, give a lay of the land a
little bit so that you knowwe're not confused on what we're
actually talking about.
You know, there there's turmoilhappening in front of us.
There's this immigration thinggoing on that people can't
explain or bring logic to, andit's on both ends.
(02:16):
It's not just I'm not comingfrom a political point of view
like a right or a left, it'sjust both sides have their way
of seeing things and this istypically how it unfolds when
you know you have people ofdifferent belief systems that
really want what they reallywant yeah, and you know, I had
(02:39):
the privilege of working withsome people who really let me
into their world regarding this.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
So I love what you said immigration thing, and
that's such a broad topic but ifwe can just focus in a little
bit, sure, there are people whoare every day anticipating the
worst or not knowing what'sgoing to happen.
What I mean by the worst isseparation from family, not
(03:06):
knowing what the future holds.
Fear, right, torment the griefis enormous, right, so it's that
kind of way.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
So, whereas, for the sake of a podcast, we generalize
or broaden these topics, we'retalking about human emotions,
family relationships, friends,you know, and then there's, well
, what's right, what's wrong andthose kind of feelings and that
kind of thought process, right,so yeah, you've got that which
(03:42):
is so heavy right, yeah, and andthen you have what just
recently happened with the Iran,israel and the United States
dropping bombs on a particulararea in Iran, and people have
(04:02):
different, mixed feelings onthis as well, yeah, and so just
even explaining it and trying todescribe it is a little bit
difficult, because I don't wantto minimize or over exaggerate
any topic or any issue inanyone's mind mind, and so I can
(04:28):
only give my point of view andmy perspective because I see
things just a little bitdifferent than most people
typically do, and not becauseI'm special or because I'm, you
know, so wise or so blind towhat's happening.
It's just I've learned to tofigure this out in a different
way.
Some of this doesn't land forme at all because my belief
(04:52):
system and, jen, I don't knowany other way to say it other
than you know I have a differentbelief system than, I'm sure, a
lot of other people, and sowhen things of this nature come
about, I'm real quick to startpraying, I'm real quick to start
relying on my spiritual and myfaith, and it's not that I'm
(05:15):
just doing it only then, it'sbecause I'm always doing it
Right, and so it doesn't changewho I am at the core, and so it
doesn't change who I am at thecore.
I've seen things in otheraspects of life that I was very
concerned about, but it didn'tcause me to panic, because I
just have a different way ofdealing with it, and so I pose
(05:42):
this question to anyonelistening, and I'll start with
you, jen.
How do you begin to and I usethis word a lot how do you begin
to palletize these type ofsituations?
Is faith a part of it, or isthere another methodology that
you lean into?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Man, ultimately it is faith, right, and I'd love to
go into that more and I want toexplain my process.
Very much a feeler, very muchabout people, and I've done the
thing where I scroll through andI'm looking at different things
.
I'm seeing a dad in hisapartment with his son and they
(06:26):
are literally hearing bombsabove them and you hear screams
of women in the background andhe's trying to keep his son and
I mean his son is probably ayear old, a year and a half, and
his son has big, beautiful eyes, eyes and he's just kind of
(06:48):
looking around like what'shappening.
And then the bombs become veryintense and you just see fear in
this little boy's eyes and hestarts crying.
And then I go into that.
What does that gotta feel likeas a parent who has no control
in that situation, right, butjust to be there with your child
.
And then you see his twodaughters on the ground and
(07:10):
their face is flat on the ground, like on their cheek, just you,
and you can sense the holdingof their breath to see if
anything's going to happen tothem you know that kind of way.
So this is my process.
I feel not exactly what they'refeeling, but I imagine what
(07:31):
that is, and I think to myselfoh my God, this morning, when I
saw this, my concern is whatdrink?
Am I going to get?
A coffee bean?
You know what I mean, and itjust puts things in a different
perspective.
You know what I mean, and itjust puts things in a different
(08:00):
perspective.
And then it's no longer for meabout the politics of what's
right, who's right, what's wrong.
We walk the same walk and talkthe same talk.
It's a different process though,yeah, but of course, ultimately
, I realize I'm not in controlof this, and I just, literally,
(08:21):
will fall on my knees and justpray for the state of the world
that we're in, and never when Ipray do I blame God, because
we're humans and we choose thisright, and we just celebrated
Juneteenth, and one of thethings I loved what you shared
on LinkedIn and I tried to mimicit on our Instagram I tried to
mimic it on our Instagram butit's that we have the freedom
(08:46):
and it's our God-given right,and with that freedom, we choose
things.
You see what I'm saying?
So, yeah, it's faith, and thenit's just recalling and
remembering all the times whereit felt like death was literally
knocking at our door and thenlife appeared.
You know what I mean, or?
(09:06):
there was light in extremedarkness.
And that's the hope, that's theprayer and, above all, just
trusting in his will.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
You know and yeah um, can I jump in?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah, please.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I'm glad and I'm so grateful that you shared your
honest, pure heart, and that'swhat it really was.
Can we acknowledge that thereare bigger powers, and when I
say bigger powers like Worldpowers.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
is that what you mean ?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, yeah, like world powers.
Is that what you mean?
Yeah, yeah, there are worldpowers that have been involved
in this type of behavior, thistype of uh, chaos and confusion
for as long as we can remember,and I personally don't think
it's fair to put that on theregular, normal people walking
(10:03):
around in everyday life yeah,it's like the cost of the game
that you all are playing amongsteach other right and, and we
really don't even have a clue asto where any of this began.
We really don't understand themagnitude yeah that and, as you
said, the game it's in to tosome people this is a game
(10:26):
because you know that you willnever be hurt, harmed or in
dangerous way yeah for whatyou're doing to the public, and
so, again, that's why I have tomove different, because I'm
never going to point the fingerat one individual that I can
(10:46):
walk across, you know, comeacross in my lifetime and say
it's your fault, you did this,you know.
Again, I just don't think wehave enough of the pieces of the
puzzle on the table to figurethis thing out.
And that's the most harmfulthing that you could ever do.
Try to get people to solve aproblem and you don't give them
(11:07):
all the solutions that they haveat their fingertips yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
And to your point, cory, where people are playing
and moving pieces and just kindof sitting back saying, well,
I'm going to do this because Ihave an agenda, whatever that
looks like.
We have friends whose childrenand cousins, whose children are
in the military, and they're,like, literally on standby and
(11:35):
not given any much moreinformation than that.
So then we see that impact, youknow.
So, at the end of the day,corey, what we're saying here is
what, when this is the worldthat we live in, how do we move
forward?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
how do we, how do we breathe at times, well, you got
to find your own peace and yougot to find your way.
You know, we mentioned ourfaith and and that's what we
rely on um, you have to be ableto find your own peace and find
your way through this.
Uh, the best way possible.
I can't say what it is for thenext person.
(12:13):
Sure, I can't tell you who arelistening to me this is what you
do.
I could tell you what I do, Icould tell you how I get through
things, but it may not solveyour problem.
It may not solve your issue.
When I come to the realizationthat, 20 years from now, we're
going to look back on this verymoment in time and figure out so
(12:35):
many things that we did werewrong and a few things we did
that were right on both sides ofthe aisle, whether it be your
political standing, yourspiritual standing, your world
standing we're just going torealize that we could have did
this all so differently, and ifwe had to just expose the hands
(12:59):
of some of the individuals thathave the ability to pull the
stuff off in the first place, wemight have been in a better
spot.
I mean, let's think about it inthese terms If we look back at
the younger version of ourselves.
How many things would we havejust simply altered?
Because we knew now the thingthat was going to develop from
(13:21):
doing that thing a long time ago.
And so my prayer is, and hopeis, that everyone can come to
some kind of peaceful mind andbe in peace, be lockstep with
their belief system.
(13:42):
Don't go against your gut,don't go against what you feel
is the thing that you should bedoing at the end of the day.
Be able to sleep at night.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, and another thing that I'd want to add to
that is remember I had justmentioned that I worked with a
group of people and they reallyallowed the space to talk about
what exactly they were goingthrough at this time.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
And for me, I think that's another thing that helps
during this time is ourinteraction with people you know
and even strangers, likethere's so much going on there
and like, for example, correctthe other day right, this guy
was driving like a madman andwanted to stop right next to me
(14:38):
and kind of stare us down in thecar yeah, and I just thought
and instead of like raising thehands or like you know what,
what kind of thing it was, morelike I have no idea what he's
going through so, and that'sinteresting, I I experienced
that I was sitting in the backseat and I opted not to say a
(15:01):
whole lot at that very moment.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
But it's these typical moments in life that,
because you don't have all thepieces of the puzzle, you don't
understand what happened.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
You just give grace.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, this guy thought you cut him off, but it
wasn't that you cut him off.
He was in a position and notready to go, so you took the
lead and then, apparently, yeah,he didn't like that very much.
He went to the next level, andso you can imagine if you got
two hot-headed people and I'veheard stories about this and, as
(15:33):
a matter of fact, I've seen anews story about this, where one
guy felt like someone cut himoff on the freeway.
They both stopped the car.
One had a, a knife, one had agun.
My goodness, they were shootingeach other and stabbing each
other and the police showed upand literally had to break them
up from this fight.
Neither one of them died, andthis is what we've grown to,
(15:56):
because we can't control ouremotions.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, yeah, so be a peacemaker.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
In times like this, I think, intentionally being just
peaceful and being that personthat says okay, I see you and I
don't know what's happening foryou, but we're.
We're bigger than this, likeyou know.
This doesn't have to be thatmoment and I opt out of this
(16:25):
yeah um, because I'm opting intoyou and I think that's the
thing.
And when you have moments ofconnection, cherish them, like
get over the fact that thingsfeel hurried, or get over the
fact that you're late tosomething else or there's
something else on your mind.
(16:46):
When someone's coming to youand talking to you and wanting
to connect, that's that is whatthey need, and it's funny how
this happens, but it turns outthat that's what you need too
yeah, and I've just learned, jen, I'm going to be really
transparent right now, because Idon't.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I used to be so extreme on everything, and I
know you can attest to this.
I was so extreme on mypolitical stance, I was so
extreme on my biblical stancethat I had no wiggle room for
anything or anybody, and I justhad this mindset that if you did
not believe like I do, thenyou're.
(17:26):
We're just not going to befriends, we're not going to be
able to have any common ground,and what I had to do was take a
step back and realize howisolated I was by isolating
myself.
But not only that.
I'm isolating everybody aroundme family members, friends,
people that I grew up with,people that were close to me.
(17:47):
And the thing is, taking thatstep back allowed me to see
Corey, you're not 100% right onthis.
You're committing atrocitieswithin yourself, isolating
(18:08):
yourself from these people.
How much more are other peopledoing, not only to themselves,
but to other people as well?
So I just want to put that outthere.
You know, we all have room togrow.
We all have room to change andto elevate and evolve.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yes, so let's do that .
I think that's beautiful adviceduring this time and you know,
man, we care about you guys somuch and, um, if at any point
you just need someone to talk toyou, I hope you know how to
reach us, um, and I'm gonna putour website out there, because I
(18:42):
think that's where we're tryingto live in the future.
So it's thegenkocom.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
T-H-E-G-E-N-K-O dot com and Corey is very
disciplined about going in allthese things that we've got to
stay connected like every day.
So please reach out and justknow that we're praying for you
and you matter and you'reimportant and your situation is
(19:14):
unique to you, and it'simportant Even if we stand on a
different political front ordifferent belief system.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
at the end of the day , this is about people yeah, um,
and she's looking at me and I'magreeing with her profusely,
because we don't exist withouteach other.
Right, we don't survive withouteach other yeah and when, when
the chips are down and when true, uh, chaos breaks out, it's
(19:50):
going to be the human spiritthat decides who lives and who
who survives.
We, we got to get used to thisthought process so that we don't
go crazy on each other whenthings get really bad.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Totally All right.
Well, you know us at Take theElevator, we say look up and
(20:27):
let's elevate Every day, elevateEvery day, elevate Every day.
Hey, it's Jen the Builder and Corey, and hello
everyone.
This is a bit of a differenttype of episode, I feel today.
This is a bit of a differenttype of episode, I feel today.
Just wanted to connect with youall.
I don't have any notes, corey,you don't have any notes.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Nope.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
And man, there's just so much going on and we thought
what is it that people need tohear, or what's going to bring
them the best type of messagingthat makes sense for all of us
today?
yeah and I think where it reallylands is how do we find peace
(00:56):
or how do we keep sane.
However, you want to look atthis during times of not just
challenge, but hard times,difficult moments, and when
you're getting, when you feellike, okay, I can absorb what's
happening right now.
Then there's another layer andanother one and it just feels
(01:17):
heavy, Right.
I think that's what this is ishow do you keep light when it's
heavy?
How do you keep hopeful whenthings seem hopeless?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I guess that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah.
So, corey and I really wantedto just reach into our hearts
and just speak to you people, topeople, about how this looks,
how we get through it.
Um and so, corey, you hadshared with me some really cool
stuff, and I love how you justwent back in time.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Can you let us in your world?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Well, can we kind of lay, give a lay of the land a
little bit so that you knowwe're not confused on what we're
actually talking about.
You know, there there's turmoilhappening in front of us.
There's this immigration thinggoing on that people can't
explain or bring logic to, andit's on both ends.
(02:16):
It's not just I'm not comingfrom a political point of view
like a right or a left, it'sjust both sides have their way
of seeing things and this istypically how it unfolds when
you know you have people ofdifferent belief systems that
really want what they reallywant yeah, and you know, I had
(02:39):
the privilege of working withsome people who really let me
into their world regarding this.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
So I love what you said immigration thing, and
that's such a broad topic but ifwe can just focus in a little
bit, sure, there are people whoare every day anticipating the
worst or not knowing what'sgoing to happen.
What I mean by the worst isseparation from family, not
(03:06):
knowing what the future holds.
Fear, right, torment the griefis enormous, right, so it's that
kind of way.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
So, whereas, for the sake of a podcast, we generalize
or broaden these topics, we'retalking about human emotions,
family relationships, friends,you know, and then there's, well
, what's right, what's wrong andthose kind of feelings and that
kind of thought process, right,so yeah, you've got that which
(03:42):
is so heavy right, yeah, and andthen you have what just
recently happened with the Iran,israel and the United States
dropping bombs on a particulararea in Iran, and people have
(04:02):
different, mixed feelings onthis as well, yeah, and so just
even explaining it and trying todescribe it is a little bit
difficult, because I don't wantto minimize or over exaggerate
any topic or any issue inanyone's mind mind, and so I can
(04:28):
only give my point of view andmy perspective because I see
things just a little bitdifferent than most people
typically do, and not becauseI'm special or because I'm, you
know, so wise or so blind towhat's happening.
It's just I've learned to tofigure this out in a different
way.
Some of this doesn't land forme at all because my belief
(04:52):
system and, jen, I don't knowany other way to say it other
than you know I have a differentbelief system than, I'm sure, a
lot of other people, and sowhen things of this nature come
about, I'm real quick to startpraying, I'm real quick to start
relying on my spiritual and myfaith, and it's not that I'm
(05:15):
just doing it only then, it'sbecause I'm always doing it
Right, and so it doesn't changewho I am at the core, and so it
doesn't change who I am at thecore.
I've seen things in otheraspects of life that I was very
concerned about, but it didn'tcause me to panic, because I
just have a different way ofdealing with it, and so I pose
(05:42):
this question to anyonelistening, and I'll start with
you, jen.
How do you begin to and I usethis word a lot how do you begin
to palletize these type ofsituations?
Is faith a part of it, or isthere another methodology that
you lean into?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Man, ultimately it is faith, right, and I'd love to
go into that more and I want toexplain my process.
Very much a feeler, very muchabout people, and I've done the
thing where I scroll through andI'm looking at different things
.
I'm seeing a dad in hisapartment with his son and they
(06:26):
are literally hearing bombsabove them and you hear screams
of women in the background andhe's trying to keep his son and
I mean his son is probably ayear old, a year and a half, and
his son has big, beautiful eyes, eyes and he's just kind of
(06:48):
looking around like what'shappening.
And then the bombs become veryintense and you just see fear in
this little boy's eyes and hestarts crying.
And then I go into that.
What does that gotta feel likeas a parent who has no control
in that situation, right, butjust to be there with your child
.
And then you see his twodaughters on the ground and
(07:10):
their face is flat on the ground, like on their cheek, just you,
and you can sense the holdingof their breath to see if
anything's going to happen tothem you know that kind of way.
So this is my process.
I feel not exactly what they'refeeling, but I imagine what
(07:31):
that is, and I think to myselfoh my God, this morning, when I
saw this, my concern is whatdrink?
Am I going to get?
A coffee bean?
You know what I mean, and itjust puts things in a different
perspective.
You know what I mean, and itjust puts things in a different
(08:00):
perspective.
And then it's no longer for meabout the politics of what's
right, who's right, what's wrong.
We walk the same walk and talkthe same talk.
It's a different process though,yeah, but of course, ultimately
, I realize I'm not in controlof this, and I just, literally,
(08:21):
will fall on my knees and justpray for the state of the world
that we're in, and never when Ipray do I blame God, because
we're humans and we choose thisright, and we just celebrated
Juneteenth, and one of thethings I loved what you shared
on LinkedIn and I tried to mimicit on our Instagram I tried to
mimic it on our Instagram butit's that we have the freedom
(08:46):
and it's our God-given right,and with that freedom, we choose
things.
You see what I'm saying?
So, yeah, it's faith, and thenit's just recalling and
remembering all the times whereit felt like death was literally
knocking at our door and thenlife appeared.
You know what I mean, or?
(09:06):
there was light in extremedarkness.
And that's the hope, that's theprayer and, above all, just
trusting in his will.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
You know and yeah um, can I jump in?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Yeah, please.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
I'm glad and I'm so grateful that you shared your
honest, pure heart, and that'swhat it really was.
Can we acknowledge that thereare bigger powers, and when I
say bigger powers like Worldpowers.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
is that what you mean ?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yeah, yeah, like world powers.
Is that what you mean?
Yeah, yeah, there are worldpowers that have been involved
in this type of behavior, thistype of uh, chaos and confusion
for as long as we can remember,and I personally don't think
it's fair to put that on theregular, normal people walking
(10:03):
around in everyday life yeah,it's like the cost of the game
that you all are playing amongsteach other right and, and we
really don't even have a clue asto where any of this began.
We really don't understand themagnitude yeah that and, as you
said, the game it's in to tosome people this is a game
(10:26):
because you know that you willnever be hurt, harmed or in
dangerous way yeah for whatyou're doing to the public, and
so, again, that's why I have tomove different, because I'm
never going to point the fingerat one individual that I can
(10:46):
walk across, you know, comeacross in my lifetime and say
it's your fault, you did this,you know.
Again, I just don't think wehave enough of the pieces of the
puzzle on the table to figurethis thing out.
And that's the most harmfulthing that you could ever do.
Try to get people to solve aproblem and you don't give them
(11:07):
all the solutions that they haveat their fingertips yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
And to your point, cory, where people are playing
and moving pieces and just kindof sitting back saying, well,
I'm going to do this because Ihave an agenda, whatever that
looks like.
We have friends whose childrenand cousins, whose children are
in the military, and they're,like, literally on standby and
(11:35):
not given any much moreinformation than that.
So then we see that impact, youknow.
So, at the end of the day,corey, what we're saying here is
what, when this is the worldthat we live in, how do we move
forward?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
how do we, how do we breathe at times, well, you got
to find your own peace and yougot to find your way.
You know, we mentioned ourfaith and and that's what we
rely on um, you have to be ableto find your own peace and find
your way through this.
Uh, the best way possible.
I can't say what it is for thenext person.
(12:13):
Sure, I can't tell you who arelistening to me this is what you
do.
I could tell you what I do, Icould tell you how I get through
things, but it may not solveyour problem.
It may not solve your issue.
When I come to the realizationthat, 20 years from now, we're
going to look back on this verymoment in time and figure out so
(12:35):
many things that we did werewrong and a few things we did
that were right on both sides ofthe aisle, whether it be your
political standing, yourspiritual standing, your world
standing we're just going torealize that we could have did
this all so differently, and ifwe had to just expose the hands
(12:59):
of some of the individuals thathave the ability to pull the
stuff off in the first place, wemight have been in a better
spot.
I mean, let's think about it inthese terms If we look back at
the younger version of ourselves.
How many things would we havejust simply altered?
Because we knew now the thingthat was going to develop from
(13:21):
doing that thing a long time ago.
And so my prayer is, and hopeis, that everyone can come to
some kind of peaceful mind andbe in peace, be lockstep with
their belief system.
(13:42):
Don't go against your gut,don't go against what you feel
is the thing that you should bedoing at the end of the day.
Be able to sleep at night.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, and another thing that I'd want to add to
that is remember I had justmentioned that I worked with a
group of people and they reallyallowed the space to talk about
what exactly they were goingthrough at this time.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
And for me, I think that's another thing that helps
during this time is ourinteraction with people you know
and even strangers, likethere's so much going on there
and like, for example, correctthe other day right, this guy
was driving like a madman andwanted to stop right next to me
(14:38):
and kind of stare us down in thecar yeah, and I just thought
and instead of like raising thehands or like you know what,
what kind of thing it was, morelike I have no idea what he's
going through so, and that'sinteresting, I I experienced
that I was sitting in the backseat and I opted not to say a
(15:01):
whole lot at that very moment.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
But it's these typical moments in life that,
because you don't have all thepieces of the puzzle, you don't
understand what happened.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
You just give grace.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, this guy thought you cut him off, but it
wasn't that you cut him off.
He was in a position and notready to go, so you took the
lead and then, apparently, yeah,he didn't like that very much.
He went to the next level, andso you can imagine if you got
two hot-headed people and I'veheard stories about this and, as
(15:33):
a matter of fact, I've seen anews story about this, where one
guy felt like someone cut himoff on the freeway.
They both stopped the car.
One had a, a knife, one had agun.
My goodness, they were shootingeach other and stabbing each
other and the police showed upand literally had to break them
up from this fight.
Neither one of them died, andthis is what we've grown to,
(15:56):
because we can't control ouremotions.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, yeah, so be a peacemaker.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
In times like this, I think, intentionally being just
peaceful and being that personthat says okay, I see you and I
don't know what's happening foryou, but we're.
We're bigger than this, likeyou know.
This doesn't have to be thatmoment and I opt out of this
(16:25):
yeah um, because I'm opting intoyou and I think that's the
thing.
And when you have moments ofconnection, cherish them, like
get over the fact that thingsfeel hurried, or get over the
fact that you're late tosomething else or there's
something else on your mind.
(16:46):
When someone's coming to youand talking to you and wanting
to connect, that's that is whatthey need, and it's funny how
this happens, but it turns outthat that's what you need too
yeah, and I've just learned, jen, I'm going to be really
transparent right now, because Idon't.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I used to be so extreme on everything, and I
know you can attest to this.
I was so extreme on mypolitical stance, I was so
extreme on my biblical stancethat I had no wiggle room for
anything or anybody, and I justhad this mindset that if you did
not believe like I do, thenyou're.
(17:26):
We're just not going to befriends, we're not going to be
able to have any common ground,and what I had to do was take a
step back and realize howisolated I was by isolating
myself.
But not only that.
I'm isolating everybody aroundme family members, friends,
people that I grew up with,people that were close to me.
(17:47):
And the thing is, taking thatstep back allowed me to see
Corey, you're not 100% right onthis.
You're committing atrocitieswithin yourself, isolating
(18:08):
yourself from these people.
How much more are other peopledoing, not only to themselves,
but to other people as well?
So I just want to put that outthere.
You know, we all have room togrow.
We all have room to change andto elevate and evolve.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yes, so let's do that .
I think that's beautiful adviceduring this time and you know,
man, we care about you guys somuch and, um, if at any point
you just need someone to talk toyou, I hope you know how to
reach us, um, and I'm gonna putour website out there, because I
(18:42):
think that's where we're tryingto live in the future.
So it's thegenkocom.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
T-H-E-G-E-N-K-O dot com and Corey is very
disciplined about going in allthese things that we've got to
stay connected like every day.
So please reach out and justknow that we're praying for you
and you matter and you'reimportant and your situation is
(19:14):
unique to you, and it'simportant Even if we stand on a
different political front ordifferent belief system.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
at the end of the day , this is about people yeah, um,
and she's looking at me and I'magreeing with her profusely,
because we don't exist withouteach other.
Right, we don't survive withouteach other yeah and when, when
the chips are down and when true, uh, chaos breaks out, it's
(19:50):
going to be the human spiritthat decides who lives and who
who survives.
We, we got to get used to thisthought process so that we don't
go crazy on each other whenthings get really bad.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Totally All right.
Well, you know us at Take theElevator, we say look up and
(20:27):
let's elevate Every day, elevateEvery day, elevate Every day.
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