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SPEAKER_01 (00:02):
Every day elevate every day elevate every day
elevate.
SPEAKER_00 (00:17):
Hey, it's Jen the Builder and Corey.
And we're back on the elevator.
SPEAKER_02 (00:23):
Yes.
Welcome back to the elevator.
SPEAKER_00 (00:26):
It's been a couple of weeks.
And uh first of all, we'rerecording over the weekend, and
I love a good nap on a Saturday.
People asked me on Friday, hey,what are you looking forward to
over the weekend?
I was like, a nap.
SPEAKER_02 (00:44):
A nice long nap, yes.
SPEAKER_00 (00:47):
Absolutely.
So we're here, and Corey, Isaid, Do you have any ideas for
this epo episode?
Like, let's just be real.
We're almost 400 in.
And sometimes I get in my headabout, haven't we done that one
already?
Or I don't really have a topicto bring forward.
(01:09):
So you kind of hit this lull,right?
So I'm really excited abouttoday.
I love what you're bringingforward or what we're gonna
bring forward.
SPEAKER_02 (01:15):
Absolutely.
It's excuse me, definitely ajoint effort.
SPEAKER_00 (01:20):
So let's do it.
SPEAKER_02 (01:21):
Let's do it.
SPEAKER_00 (01:25):
Okay.
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (01:26):
Uh well.
Excuse me for that momentarypause.
I was using my phone forsomething else, and so I needed
to pull up my notes.
So let's talk about first ofall, Jen.
You know, we we took a littlebit of a break, and in that
break, we've come to somerealizations.
(01:49):
Um, we're not going anywhere,no, we're not planning on
stopping podcasting or writingbooks or all the other wonderful
things that we're involved in.
But we we just realize sometimeswe have to unplug and slow down.
And in slowing down, you gottafind something else to do.
(02:10):
Even though podcasting is veryrelaxing, it has its moments of
pure joy, and then it has itsmoments of, oh man, that took a
lot out of me.
But we just realize we have todo something a little bit
different to get out of the rutof doing the same thing over and
over and over.
(02:31):
I'm gonna ask you because you'remy partner, and I know you need
different things, differentscenery.
Sometimes you say, I just needto get out of the IE.
Can you give me a say that?
Yeah.
Can you give us some of thethings that you need to do when
you've hit that wall and youfeel like, you know what?
(02:52):
I just need some time toregroup, recharge, put some gas
in the tank.
SPEAKER_00 (02:57):
Yeah.
Well, a good friend of ours justrecently said it like this.
She needed to change herenvironment.
And I get that.
Like when you're running andCorey, you and I are not
sprinting.
This is a marathon.
SPEAKER_02 (03:11):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (03:11):
And with that, it takes discipline.
I think there are times when Ifeel the cramps, and I, like you
said, just need to kind of pullover and do something a little
different or just take a breath,right?
So we can keep going.
Because I agree with you, theintention is to keep going.
And one might ask why, right?
(03:32):
Like people are like, how longare you gonna run the ep the
podcast until we both say it'stime?
Yeah.
And we've done things like thatin life where we've realized,
hey, it's time to cut this out.
We talk about it and we makethat transition plan, right?
So what I need is definitely achange in environment.
(03:53):
I need a space where there's notso much thinking about what's
next.
Um, because I think you and Ihave built in such a strong way
that we know what's next.
SPEAKER_01 (04:05):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (04:05):
But to be okay to say, hey, even though this is on
schedule, every week we own ourtime, if you will.
We get to say, we need a littlebit of this and be able to do
that.
No one's we're not reporting toanyone on this, but to
ourselves.
And it's like this is part ofthe freedom of being an
(04:28):
entrepreneur.
SPEAKER_01 (04:28):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (04:29):
So I think that's what I need is the right to
exercise that freedom to say,hey, let's do something else and
let's do something that's morefocused on self-care,
relationship care.
And um, you know me, I'm alwaysdown for some fun.
So I'm gonna go a little bitinto detail.
(04:50):
It could be live music, it couldbe putting me in a new space.
So you just take me on a carride and you give me new things
to look at, new people toexperience, new shops to go in,
good music to listen to on theroad, and that's all I need for
a reset.
It's pretty cool because it'snot that much, but it's taking
(05:13):
the time to do that little bitof much that I need.
SPEAKER_02 (05:16):
Yeah, it's a bit of a um rom-com type of movie, but
it says exactly what we feel umfrom Pretty Woman.
SPEAKER_00 (05:27):
You know, we say we say what, we say who, we say
when, we say how much.
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (05:36):
And so sometimes you just gotta be the captain of
your own ship.
SPEAKER_01 (05:40):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (05:41):
And we forget that, right?
We forget that we can say, youknow what, not gonna do that
today.
Not gonna put myself in thatsituation right now.
I I had to say at some point intime, um, I'm not gonna write
anything today.
I'm not, I'm not gonna write anymusic, I'm not gonna write any
books, I'm not, I'm just notgonna do it.
(06:02):
And I put myself, I don't knowwhy it did this to me, but I put
myself under this pressure, likeyou have to do something
productive every single day.
Right.
Otherwise, it's a waste of time.
And how crazy is that to putthat kind of pressure on
yourself.
Sure.
SPEAKER_00 (06:20):
And that's what leads me to, I love when you
said we're gonna name this partof the the session or episode
uplifting.
Yeah.
And I think that's importantthat we take the time to uplift
ourselves.
And really, what it comes downto, Gory, is I feel it's
self-compassion.
When you're in service topeople, it's so important that
(06:43):
we are able to serve ourselvesand each other.
So that's one way I definitelywant to uplift you is that in
the middle of all this, whiletaking care of yourself, the
small ways that you uplift memean so much to me.
Um, today I got to play thekeyboard while my mom sang.
(07:05):
And I don't take for grantedthat I don't have to worry about
packing up a keyboard, makingsure the chords are there.
Oh, and by the way, it's apotluck.
And you're like, yeah, I'malready heating up the food that
we made yesterday for it.
I'm like, score, like, you know,and I think gratitude is a big
part of the reset.
(07:26):
Gratitude should be every day.
But I think especially whenwe're resetting, it's just
taking the time to breathe andjust notice all the small things
that are happening around us.
SPEAKER_02 (07:39):
Yeah, and I want to acknowledge this, and I haven't
I haven't talked to you aboutthis uh as far as uplifting you
in a way that you uplift me.
Now, now there's ways that Jenclearly uplifts uh other people
all day, every day.
And her new role, she's uh doinga phenomenal job.
Let's just start there.
And then let's also say that umher job requires her to uplift
(08:03):
people and to encourage them andgive them good solid
foundational uh pointers tonavigate through their life and
through their work and throughtheir job and how to dig deep.
And and that's something that wedon't have in society today,
where we learn how to dig deep.
(08:24):
When you're at the end of yourrope, you've tied your knot,
you're holding on, it's time todig deep.
It's time to reach that levelinside of yourself to be able to
go just a little bit further,you know?
SPEAKER_00 (08:38):
Yeah, and this work, thank you, Corey, for
recognizing that.
Um, it's a lot of pull action.
So talking to a specific personon my team, he's like, it's not
the push, it's the pull.
And at first I didn't quite getit, but that can be tiring
because it's easy to push,especially when you're me
(09:00):
naturally, where it's like youcan do this, and then there's
the motivation piece, that stuffstill exists, but when you're
with people and pulling what'sin them out and paying attention
to that, it's a lot of artwork.
SPEAKER_02 (09:18):
You're constantly stretching people, and so when
you're stretching anything, italways has a breaking point.
So you just never want to getthem to the point where they're
broken, but you want to get asmuch out of them as possible so
that they can begin to rely onthemselves in a whole nother
fashion.
Yeah, but Jen, I want to Iwanted to bring up something
that that you did to uplift me.
(09:40):
Um and and it's important to theindividual when you're uplifting
them, because you think toyourself, wow, she really didn't
have to do that.
He really didn't have to dothat.
And so um there I have myniceties in life.
They're not must-haves, they'rethey're niceties.
(10:02):
And Jen did something for me,and it was around birthday time,
but guys, let's be really clear.
Uh, Jen and I aren't hurting fora birthday present.
We're not looking for a birthdaypresent, it's not necessary.
And so when we do things for oneanother, it's it's a lot of just
straight love and andunderstanding that you deserve
(10:24):
this, you you need this.
And so she had asked me, youknow, what I wanted.
Um, and she just always goes theextra mile.
And and what she did for me wasI had asked for one particular
thing, and and she, I hope youremember, but it was a pair of
shoes that I really, reallywanted.
And so I sent her options to buyone or the other, and she bought
(10:50):
them all.
And yes, I was very happy,content, and and and satisfied.
You know, it wasn't one of thosemoments of like, oh man, I wish
she had got these, or I wish shehad got those, or I wish it was
like this, and and that reallytook me to the next level, and
(11:11):
I'll tell you why.
Not because I have another pairof shoes to add to my
collection, but because I knowthis woman didn't have to do
that, but she did it because shewanted me to feel good, and I
did, and it gave me a little bitmore gas in the tank to just be
like, okay, I'm gonna go alittle harder now.
SPEAKER_00 (11:31):
I love the gas in the tank moment.
Oh, yeah.
Did you really not know that Iwas gonna buy you the more than
that one pair?
SPEAKER_02 (11:38):
I had no idea.
SPEAKER_00 (11:39):
Oh, I love when a surprise works out.
SPEAKER_02 (11:41):
Yeah, I don't get surprised very often, and that
was definitely one of them.
SPEAKER_00 (11:45):
Well, Corey is an excellent receiver of gifts.
I am, yeah.
So, you know, I just did anunboxing on our YouTube channel
for Fuzzy Furry Forest.
Uh-oh, we're moving intoupdates.
Uh yeah, but and we're gonnalink to that, yeah, beautifully.
But I haven't had a chance tocatch a reel or at least post
(12:06):
it.
I've caught reels of Coreyopening gifts, and I think we're
both really good at it.
Just the excitement and ooh,what's this and expressing um
gratitude and the surprise, thesurprise factor is great.
Yeah, I don't know if you'veever done this, but if you've
(12:26):
ever surprised someone and it'sjust kind of like, I have.
SPEAKER_02 (12:35):
And I don't, you know, you can say you don't like
when that happens, but you areless inclined to give good gifts
to that person when they're likethat.
You know, they're like, oh,thank you so much.
You're like, mm-mm, mm-mm.
I put some heart and soul intothis.
You better give me what give mewhat I need.
SPEAKER_00 (12:57):
And that might be the way they express
appreciation.
Uh, but I just am I've very usedto ours.
Yeah.
So, anyhow, I know I went intoupdates already, but that was a
great uplifting moment.
Absolutely.
And it's so needed that we dothis as people, just uplift
yourselves and each other andtake the time for it.
SPEAKER_02 (13:19):
Yeah, and before we transition completely, I want to
uplift the listeners becauseguys, we understand that you
know we've been through somechanges, and with us going
through, you're obviously goingthrough too.
Sometimes we miss a week out ofthe 400, which sounds crazy, uh,
episodes that we've recorded.
But um, we we just appreciateyou guys so much.
(13:40):
You guys have shared thepodcast.
We've hopped in and out of videotrying to make that work.
But you know, I'm just gonna beno, I'm gonna save the the rail
for that.
Uh we got another portion, butwhat I'm what I'm gonna say is
that you've stuck with us,you've shared the podcast,
you've gotten us around theworld as crazy as that sounds.
SPEAKER_00 (14:03):
Like there's somebody listening to us in Asia
and London, and well, it was areally strange New Zealand, and
like I'm like, wow, Nigeria,someone's actually Germany,
especially I mean, Europe issuch a big and Asia's such big
um real estate, if you will.
(14:24):
But yeah, this specific countryjust means a lot to us.
And I love Corey when we getmessages like, hey, are you guys
okay?
Because we've missed an episode,or I learned so much about you
from this one show youmentioned, and I have to
remember that.
Like, guys, if you listen to allour episodes, you would have
Corey and I pegged.
(14:45):
Oh, yeah, pegged, like openbook, open door, just open.
And that can take a little bitof a toll, right?
When you just so um forthrightand giving.
Okay, there it is.
Yeah, I love that.
Forthright and giving.
SPEAKER_02 (15:04):
So, yeah, we just want to say thank you, and we
we're uplifting you because ofwhat you've done in following
and sharing and helping andmotivating us because we need a
little, you know, kick in thebutton, the motivation too.
So, thank you guys.
Um, there's specific people outthere I really want to bring
(15:27):
out, but you know, I'm I'm gonnakeep this general and hopefully
in the very near future I cancall out some names because uh
there's some people that reallyneed to be shouted out.
SPEAKER_00 (15:37):
Yeah, yeah.
So, guys, we have some reallycool updates.
Um, while we've been taking someus time, you know, the work does
still continue.
I'm excited today.
I think it was today.
It was today.
When we woke up from our nap,Corey checks uh our emails, and
(16:00):
we got an email from ourillustrator, Vanessa.
Montano, yes, and so our nextbook is soon to be coming out,
and in this process, whathappens with that is she
finalizes the pictures and sendsthem to us, and we have a new
character that's um a co-star toone of our main characters
(16:22):
already.
SPEAKER_02 (16:23):
Yes, um, I'm so excited about this, and I and I
I know I just here's what I knowI know people are gonna get
excited about this.
Um, I'm doing things outside ofmyself, outside of what I
normally do.
Obviously, when you add someonethat's writing with you, they're
gonna bring out the pieces thatyour blind sides, and and this
(16:47):
was a blind side for me to writeabout female characters.
And when you write with afemale, uh yeah, Mike.
SPEAKER_00 (16:58):
Uh, where's the female love in this?
SPEAKER_02 (17:00):
Where's the balance in this, you know?
So she's balancing me, Jen isbalancing me out, and the female
characters are coming out, andit's it's pretty cool because I
just love the dynamics we'reworking with now.
So, guys, get ready.
This one's gonna be the nextcouple of books are gonna be
those just that that really nicegift that you wasn't expecting
(17:26):
to happen.
And especially for the kiddos, Imean, the girl kiddos are gonna
have a really good time withthese characters and and the
adventures in the fuzzy furryforest.
So that that's one of thebiggest updates.
Another one, and I gotta jumpahead of this one because um Jen
mentioned playing on the piano,playing on the keyboard, and
(17:48):
that's huge.
You don't know this, but this ishuge.
Why is it so huge?
Because Jen literally took abouta 10-year pause on playing a
whole decade, really though.
Yeah, and so almost, yeah.
This is big, and and it's notjust her unpausing playing,
she's starting to sing as well.
(18:10):
Yeah, so no, no, you don't get achance just yet.
SPEAKER_00 (18:14):
No, okay.
SPEAKER_02 (18:15):
Not only is she unpausing singing and playing,
she's unpausing, singing, andplaying in private and taking it
public, and she's gonna be doingthis in multiple areas.
And I gotta segue into somethingelse, but I want to give her a
chance to talk about this alittle bit.
Go ahead, Jen.
SPEAKER_00 (18:33):
So if y'all could see me, I'm uh smiling ear to
ear.
Ear to ear, yeah.
This is a big, big moment,pivotal, because it's one of the
fears and insecurities that I'vefaced.
For those who don't know, realquick, I used to play and sing
(18:53):
all the time.
Corey and I did duets and stuffall the time.
And um, I had surgery, andunfortunately, um it changed my
voice completely.
Um is it Corey?
Yes, there's a voicemail thatstill exists in the world.
Just call one of these numbers,you'll hear my voice from uh 10
(19:15):
years ago, and it doesn't evensound like me.
SPEAKER_02 (19:18):
It's so different that I called one day and it
came on, and I said, Who theheck is answering Jen's phone?
I was like, Oh, heck no.
And it was her.
It that's how different thevoice sounds.
SPEAKER_00 (19:28):
Yeah.
So I'm gonna make this realquick.
When my voice came out the wayit did, and I played the piano
and I sang, and it was just off,off, off, off.
I couldn't stomach it, stomachit.
I didn't want anything to dowith it.
So that meant I stopped playingthe keyboard too.
And I tried, and um, when I hada moment of my voice coming
(19:51):
back, my throat would just myvocal cords would just tire.
And so um, anyhow, I reallydidn't like my voice.
And now people are like, oh mygosh, you're I heard your voice,
and I knew it was you, and Ijust love your voice.
It's so different.
And um, I love my voice now, andI'm getting comfortable with the
(20:14):
register that I'm in.
And yeah, so I got to play andmy mom sang, so that was really
special.
I think that was definitely theway it was supposed to be for
the first time to be doing this.
Yeah, so I'm I am open.
I receive what's coming our wayas a result of being able to
(20:35):
play again on stage and be withyou doing music again, Corey.
SPEAKER_02 (20:39):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00 (20:40):
What in the world?
So that's take a rest just toadd something else.
SPEAKER_02 (20:45):
Yeah, that's the segue for me because um you
probably haven't heard metalking about the shameless band
a lot and know we haven'tcompletely dissolved.
Uh, we're just taking a uh adetour.
We're we're finding other routesto get to our destination.
That that's exactly what we'redoing.
(21:06):
Um, and and and that's foreveryone.
And it's not a bad thing.
It just means you know, you canpreserve the longevity when
you're able to do this.
Um, I think personally, anythingthat you're working on should be
again able to take a break, ableto pause for a minute, get some
gas, refuel, build back up, andthen go at it as hard as you
(21:30):
want to.
So this is allowing the band afew minutes in time to slow
down, and then it's allowing Jenand I to connect on a musical
level, um, like we had in thepast, which means a whole lot to
me.
Um it's big, real, real big.
So I'm looking forward to thosemoments again of connection in
(21:53):
in the musical world with withJen.
So welcome aboard.
SPEAKER_00 (21:57):
It's amazing.
Yeah, and you never know why theneed for the pause.
Right.
Right?
That's the thing.
Like I didn't I'm glad we didn'tmiss out on this.
So um, yeah, away we go.
Um, I wanted to say too,speaking of uplifting and
updates, there is a really,really good friend of mine that
(22:18):
has been listening to me playbehind closed doors, if you
will.
And so I'll just jump on and shejust is so encouraging because I
can sing any old way and play,and um, she just joins me in the
reindeer game.
So yeah, she knows exactly whoshe is.
So shout out and much love forjust the amazing friendship and
(22:42):
support in um pulling that out.
She definitely has helped me,you huge in pulling that out.
SPEAKER_02 (22:51):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Any more updates you want totalk about, Jen?
SPEAKER_00 (22:55):
Um no, I think they're gonna be up and coming,
and so just stay tuned and andlean into what we're doing
because it's gonna be good.
SPEAKER_02 (23:08):
It's gonna be real good.
Uh my last update is we we'rehitting platforms, we're we're
hitting bookstores.
Uh, we we've already uhannounced that we were in Barnes
and Noble.
Whoop, whoop, that's huge! Oh mygosh, I'm just okay, sorry about
that.
But um Walmart.
Um, we're working on Target,we're working on some
independent stores, and this isa lot of like that that moment
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when you you have to just reallyfeel good about it inside.
You you can't express it anykind of way, but on the inside,
I just I feel like I'm glowing,the sun is busting out of me
because I'm just so um contentwith the work that we've put in,
(23:56):
and now the journey is startingto show the rewards of the
consistent pacing ourselves andrunning and keeping pace, you
know?
Yeah, just it's amazing.
I can't I don't I don't evenhave words for it.
So just know this it feelsreally good.
SPEAKER_00 (24:14):
It really does.
Um, I do have something toshare.
I am stoked for next year.
Corey is gonna start providingworkshops on writing, and I'm
going to partner with him andbring out some journaling um
things and just setting a spacewhere we can be together and
(24:39):
just write without overthinking,just whatever's on your mind and
your heart, what does that looklike?
Expressed, um find out who youare as a writer and bring that
out.
SPEAKER_01 (24:49):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (24:50):
And then it's gonna be uh part two.
If you're interested in parttwo, which I highly recommend.
Um, we know that we are in aworld of people independently
doing things.
So uh I think we've not, I thinkwe've had enough time, Corey
especially, just knowledge andhow to self-publish.
And then also if you don't, whatelse there is, we've met a lot
(25:12):
of really great authors alongthe way who are published, and
so they'll be able to sharetheir journey as well.
Yeah, so that is going to bepart of 2026.
SPEAKER_02 (25:24):
Yeah, and I'm gonna have some of a little bit to say
about that in our win section,which is coming up.
So uh let's talk about somewins, Jim.
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (25:33):
What what's yours, Corey?
Like, are we talking big wins,small wins, just wins in
general?
SPEAKER_02 (25:38):
Just some wins, you know, that that we can share,
and hopefully someone can feellike they can piggyback off of
those wins and and catch thisthis this uh the wind of
winning.
The wind of winning on thesailboat.
SPEAKER_00 (25:57):
All right, all right, so I know we've already
talked about some of the stufffrom Jenko's perspective.
I have one that I'd really loveto share with everyone here,
man.
You know that kind of way whenyou're in a situation and
there's a responsibility youhave, maybe, and you realize I'm
not equipped for this.
I don't know how to do this.
(26:18):
And that was a very real momentfor me in this new position, um,
is grief support.
Uh, I have always processedgrief internally, way down deep
internally.
I don't typically talk about it.
Um, and so there was a big eventthat happened, very sad event
(26:39):
that happened at work.
And part of my job would havebeen to support this team, and I
would have supported them withlove.
That's never not a thing for me,and compassion, understanding,
and just leaning in and andbeing there for them.
But as far as words related togrief and understanding the
nuances and the and the type ofsupport that's needed, um, I was
(27:03):
so blessed to be able to talk tomy boss about it.
And um, and this is amazing tome.
We just plugged in and saw whatwas out there, and so now I am
in a workshop to become a griefeducator.
That's a huge win.
I think grief is so griefsupport is so needed in our
(27:24):
world because this is anythingto do with loss, right?
It doesn't have to be throughdeath, it could be many things a
job, losing a job, um, nothaving a relationship with
someone anymore, right?
Just those big changes.
So that's a win.
SPEAKER_02 (27:40):
That's a huge win.
SPEAKER_00 (27:42):
I get I get to learn all about it and and grow.
SPEAKER_02 (27:45):
Yeah.
I wanted to touch on a littlebit of what you shared as far as
the workshop because that's ahuge win for me.
SPEAKER_00 (27:52):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (27:52):
And for you.
Uh, when I say me, it gives mean opportunity to share my
knowledge and wisdom andexperience in the publishing,
writing, um, also someillustrative parts of putting
out a body of work.
A lot of people are comfortablewith the YouTube, a lot of
(28:14):
people are comfortable withGoogling or AIing information
about that, but some people needthat one-on-one or in-person
type of uh learning setting.
Yeah.
And when this presented itselfto me, I realized like that
here's an opportunity forsomething that's that's missing.
(28:34):
Uh a one-on-one or an in-personchance to learn some of the
steps and possibly all the stepsand get to know what that's
about.
And then partnering and couplingthat with journaling and
writing, period, uh, with Jen.
Huge win because guys, there'snothing more, and and I'm gonna
(28:56):
say the obvious part out loud,excuse me.
But Jen and I love to worktogether, and it does something
for us when we're able to worktogether.
We used to didn't look forspaces to work together, but now
we see the importance of husbandand wife and partnering with one
(29:18):
another to put something out andgive it to the world.
Uh, it's received so much betterfrom a husband and wife couple.
It's it's also received um on alevel that is taken more serious
when there's two people thathave been doing this for any
amount of time and they see thatyou know, we're committed to
(29:42):
what we're teaching, but evenmore so committed to one
another.
So these are all big wins thatwe're experiencing and and
knowledge that we're now walkinginto and saying, you know what,
we let let's live in this space,let's embody this space.
SPEAKER_00 (29:58):
Yeah.
Want to end this part with thisthought is that you have to be
open to the conflict and thefriction.
When I think about everythingthat we've been through and
said, Oh my gosh, this is whywe've kind of been fighting or
(30:19):
bucking the system because it'sthe thing that actually works.
SPEAKER_01 (30:23):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (30:23):
Right.
And so just remember that whenyou're going through something
and it's like, man, why is thisso big in my life right now?
It's usually because that's thething.
Yeah.
That it's supposed to be, youjust got to figure that part
out.
So um, yeah, bring it.
Like, I just am excited aboutlearning and then being
(30:46):
partnering, um, partnering withpeople who desire the same
thing.
For those who don't know aboutCorey and I or Jenco, I just
think we are one of the biggestcheerleaders ever.
Like when we work with peopleand they're in their element, it
just excites us.
(31:06):
It brings us so much positivityand life creativity that we're
all about it.
So, anyhow, ah the winds, thewinds are so good.
SPEAKER_02 (31:18):
The winds, um, that moves us into our last and final
space, and it's just keeping itreal and what that means to us
and what it's meant to us uh inthis journey that we've been on,
and able to just pause for asecond, look back, and
acknowledge those things.
(31:38):
What's what's been real aboutthis journey, Jen?
What what give me a couple ofthings or maybe just one thing
that you've you've had toacknowledge.
Oh man, I gotta keep it realabout this.
SPEAKER_00 (31:53):
Man, that's such a loaded question.
Uh-huh.
So if I had to pick one thingright now.
There are times when it can getkind of lonely.
You know, when you're justputting your work out there
continuously.
And what I mean by lonely isyou're just wondering, like, how
(32:15):
is this hitting people?
Um there can be a fear ofrejection.
Fear is a little bit a strongword, but that's always the
thing, right?
Like, are people gonna likethis?
Um, are they gonna see what thisis about?
Um, and you I think at the endof the day, as a creative, it's
(32:36):
nice when people appreciate yourwork.
So um when you don't hear itsometimes, which is very few and
far in between, but when it doeshappen, it's like, oh, didn't
that go well?
Did it not translate?
You know, that kind of way.
It's like it really kind of messwith your mind and your heart.
(32:58):
So you just always have to stay,stay up and be protected about
that and be confident in who youare and whose you are and why
you're doing what you're doing,and what your purpose is and
what your mission is, and juststay true to all of that despite
um those moments.
SPEAKER_02 (33:15):
Yeah.
So in my in my keeping it real,um realization that's about a
part of keeping it real, right?
Um yeah, I I'm I'm just gonnasay it.
It's tough, but if I'm thesmartest person in the room, if
(33:36):
I'm the one doing what I'mtalking about or thinking about,
I'm probably in the wrong space.
And I had to come to thatrealization.
I have to keep myself in roomswhere there are people 10 times,
20 times, 100 times smarter thanI am, understand business better
(33:58):
than I do, understand the theprocess better than I do.
I cannot allow myself tocontinue to walk into rooms and
spaces where I have theadvantage because I'm more
advanced than everyone else.
So I've been forcing myself, andit's tough because when you have
(34:21):
to ask questions, when you haveto admit you don't know
something, it's hard.
That is not the easiest part ofmy day to say, I don't
understand.
Please help me understand.
Can you show me how to do this?
Can you tell me how to get fromthis level to the next level?
And so that's been my 100% keepit real moment, and that
(34:45):
realization that I'm not gonnago back to that advantage
position, that feel-goodposition, because that's what it
really is.
It's about my pride and my ego.
Hey, I I can teach everybody inthis room something about this,
or I can show them that, and Ijust don't want it anymore.
I crave to have more wisdom,more knowledge, and more
(35:09):
understanding.
If you're listening to this andyou're saying, What is he
talking about?
I'm talking to you.
I am talking directly to youbecause the moment you reach the
plateau, what are we doing thisfor?
SPEAKER_00 (35:26):
Yeah.
It's so important.
And I was gonna even sayearlier, Corey, when you were
talking, um, one of the things Iwanted to mention about you, and
I think we could do an episodeon this, is through all of this,
relationships are so key, andthis is what I mean.
Relationships that Corey seeksout with people um always adds
(35:49):
value to the big picture.
And the way you network Coreyand build relationships isn't
just like lateral or sameknowledge type things, like you
know how to build up and reachout to people who've already
done the work or they have theirexpertise, and you plug into
(36:11):
them and you come very humblewith needing that information.
That's a gift, that's a gift,and it it looks very tiring when
I watch you do it.
It's like, wow, this is intensebuilding uh and seeking out and
putting yourself on the otherside of their desk to say,
(36:34):
here's where I'm at.
Now show me.
And I think that's valuable,especially in this space of AI.
I mean, you can easily get thatinformation from AI, but there
is something that's differentabout people who have walked it
and talked it and done it.
SPEAKER_02 (36:51):
Can can I say something about that, Jen?
Yeah.
Um, when I talk about AI, it'sit's not always in a positive
light, but it's definitely notin a negative light.
Um, you have to be the masterand not the slave.
So when you get ready to createsomething that you need AI's
assistant, I can encourage thatyou be the master and not the
(37:12):
slave.
Don't let AI do everything.
But that's not what I want totalk about.
What I want to say right here iswe forget when we're creating
things, how important the humanconnection really is.
And when I go and I sit withsomeone and I'm allowing them to
mentor me and tutor me and showme different aspects of what I'm
(37:38):
interested in, I'm not doingthat for five minutes, 10
minutes, a couple of weeks.
I'm doing this for a lifetime.
I what I mean is I'm building arelationship that where if I see
this person 10 years from now,I'm gonna be able to say, hey,
how's it going?
And get a response back.
(37:58):
Not like, okay, you used me forwhat you needed, now you just
moved on.
Um, it's so important to me tobe able to build a relationship
that lasts for an eternity.
And this is where the AI thingcomes in.
That relationship won't get oldand replaced with the next best
thing.
Meaning, AI will go out ofstyle.
(38:21):
Something in AI will go out ofstyle and you have to upgrade.
These relationships are forever.
SPEAKER_00 (38:28):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love that.
Something to think about as weend this episode is that we are
built for connection.
Yeah.
So I think my overall questionis how are you connecting with
someone today?
And someone new, right?
Those are really important tohave the new connections.
It's great for our brain, greatfor our minds, our spirits, our
(38:50):
hearts.
SPEAKER_02 (38:50):
Yeah, it does wonders to you.
Yeah.
For you, with you, all thatstuff.
SPEAKER_00 (38:55):
All of it.
All of it.
Well, I guess this is it.
And we are going to the end ofthe room.
Yeah, we are here, and uh, weplan on being here every week,
definitely until the end of theyear.
That's something you can counton.
So you know us to take theelevator.
We say, look up and let'selevate every day.
SPEAKER_01 (39:23):
Elevate every day, elevate, every day, elevate,
every day.
Every day elevate every day elevate every day
elevate.
SPEAKER_00 (00:17):
Hey, it's Jen the Builder and Corey.
And we're back on the elevator.
SPEAKER_02 (00:23):
Yes.
Welcome back to the elevator.
SPEAKER_00 (00:26):
It's been a couple of weeks.
And uh first of all, we'rerecording over the weekend, and
I love a good nap on a Saturday.
People asked me on Friday, hey,what are you looking forward to
over the weekend?
I was like, a nap.
SPEAKER_02 (00:44):
A nice long nap, yes.
SPEAKER_00 (00:47):
Absolutely.
So we're here, and Corey, Isaid, Do you have any ideas for
this epo episode?
Like, let's just be real.
We're almost 400 in.
And sometimes I get in my headabout, haven't we done that one
already?
Or I don't really have a topicto bring forward.
(01:09):
So you kind of hit this lull,right?
So I'm really excited abouttoday.
I love what you're bringingforward or what we're gonna
bring forward.
SPEAKER_02 (01:15):
Absolutely.
It's excuse me, definitely ajoint effort.
SPEAKER_00 (01:20):
So let's do it.
SPEAKER_02 (01:21):
Let's do it.
SPEAKER_00 (01:25):
Okay.
Okay.
SPEAKER_02 (01:26):
Uh well.
Excuse me for that momentarypause.
I was using my phone forsomething else, and so I needed
to pull up my notes.
So let's talk about first ofall, Jen.
You know, we we took a littlebit of a break, and in that
break, we've come to somerealizations.
(01:49):
Um, we're not going anywhere,no, we're not planning on
stopping podcasting or writingbooks or all the other wonderful
things that we're involved in.
But we we just realize sometimeswe have to unplug and slow down.
And in slowing down, you gottafind something else to do.
(02:10):
Even though podcasting is veryrelaxing, it has its moments of
pure joy, and then it has itsmoments of, oh man, that took a
lot out of me.
But we just realize we have todo something a little bit
different to get out of the rutof doing the same thing over and
over and over.
(02:31):
I'm gonna ask you because you'remy partner, and I know you need
different things, differentscenery.
Sometimes you say, I just needto get out of the IE.
Can you give me a say that?
Yeah.
Can you give us some of thethings that you need to do when
you've hit that wall and youfeel like, you know what?
(02:52):
I just need some time toregroup, recharge, put some gas
in the tank.
SPEAKER_00 (02:57):
Yeah.
Well, a good friend of ours justrecently said it like this.
She needed to change herenvironment.
And I get that.
Like when you're running andCorey, you and I are not
sprinting.
This is a marathon.
SPEAKER_02 (03:11):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (03:11):
And with that, it takes discipline.
I think there are times when Ifeel the cramps, and I, like you
said, just need to kind of pullover and do something a little
different or just take a breath,right?
So we can keep going.
Because I agree with you, theintention is to keep going.
And one might ask why, right?
(03:32):
Like people are like, how longare you gonna run the ep the
podcast until we both say it'stime?
Yeah.
And we've done things like thatin life where we've realized,
hey, it's time to cut this out.
We talk about it and we makethat transition plan, right?
So what I need is definitely achange in environment.
(03:53):
I need a space where there's notso much thinking about what's
next.
Um, because I think you and Ihave built in such a strong way
that we know what's next.
SPEAKER_01 (04:05):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (04:05):
But to be okay to say, hey, even though this is on
schedule, every week we own ourtime, if you will.
We get to say, we need a littlebit of this and be able to do
that.
No one's we're not reporting toanyone on this, but to
ourselves.
And it's like this is part ofthe freedom of being an
(04:28):
entrepreneur.
SPEAKER_01 (04:28):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (04:29):
So I think that's what I need is the right to
exercise that freedom to say,hey, let's do something else and
let's do something that's morefocused on self-care,
relationship care.
And um, you know me, I'm alwaysdown for some fun.
So I'm gonna go a little bitinto detail.
(04:50):
It could be live music, it couldbe putting me in a new space.
So you just take me on a carride and you give me new things
to look at, new people toexperience, new shops to go in,
good music to listen to on theroad, and that's all I need for
a reset.
It's pretty cool because it'snot that much, but it's taking
(05:13):
the time to do that little bitof much that I need.
SPEAKER_02 (05:16):
Yeah, it's a bit of a um rom-com type of movie, but
it says exactly what we feel umfrom Pretty Woman.
SPEAKER_00 (05:27):
You know, we say we say what, we say who, we say
when, we say how much.
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (05:36):
And so sometimes you just gotta be the captain of
your own ship.
SPEAKER_01 (05:40):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (05:41):
And we forget that, right?
We forget that we can say, youknow what, not gonna do that
today.
Not gonna put myself in thatsituation right now.
I I had to say at some point intime, um, I'm not gonna write
anything today.
I'm not, I'm not gonna write anymusic, I'm not gonna write any
books, I'm not, I'm just notgonna do it.
(06:02):
And I put myself, I don't knowwhy it did this to me, but I put
myself under this pressure, likeyou have to do something
productive every single day.
Right.
Otherwise, it's a waste of time.
And how crazy is that to putthat kind of pressure on
yourself.
Sure.
SPEAKER_00 (06:20):
And that's what leads me to, I love when you
said we're gonna name this partof the the session or episode
uplifting.
Yeah.
And I think that's importantthat we take the time to uplift
ourselves.
And really, what it comes downto, Gory, is I feel it's
self-compassion.
When you're in service topeople, it's so important that
(06:43):
we are able to serve ourselvesand each other.
So that's one way I definitelywant to uplift you is that in
the middle of all this, whiletaking care of yourself, the
small ways that you uplift memean so much to me.
Um, today I got to play thekeyboard while my mom sang.
(07:05):
And I don't take for grantedthat I don't have to worry about
packing up a keyboard, makingsure the chords are there.
Oh, and by the way, it's apotluck.
And you're like, yeah, I'malready heating up the food that
we made yesterday for it.
I'm like, score, like, you know,and I think gratitude is a big
part of the reset.
(07:26):
Gratitude should be every day.
But I think especially whenwe're resetting, it's just
taking the time to breathe andjust notice all the small things
that are happening around us.
SPEAKER_02 (07:39):
Yeah, and I want to acknowledge this, and I haven't
I haven't talked to you aboutthis uh as far as uplifting you
in a way that you uplift me.
Now, now there's ways that Jenclearly uplifts uh other people
all day, every day.
And her new role, she's uh doinga phenomenal job.
Let's just start there.
And then let's also say that umher job requires her to uplift
(08:03):
people and to encourage them andgive them good solid
foundational uh pointers tonavigate through their life and
through their work and throughtheir job and how to dig deep.
And and that's something that wedon't have in society today,
where we learn how to dig deep.
(08:24):
When you're at the end of yourrope, you've tied your knot,
you're holding on, it's time todig deep.
It's time to reach that levelinside of yourself to be able to
go just a little bit further,you know?
SPEAKER_00 (08:38):
Yeah, and this work, thank you, Corey, for
recognizing that.
Um, it's a lot of pull action.
So talking to a specific personon my team, he's like, it's not
the push, it's the pull.
And at first I didn't quite getit, but that can be tiring
because it's easy to push,especially when you're me
(09:00):
naturally, where it's like youcan do this, and then there's
the motivation piece, that stuffstill exists, but when you're
with people and pulling what'sin them out and paying attention
to that, it's a lot of artwork.
SPEAKER_02 (09:18):
You're constantly stretching people, and so when
you're stretching anything, italways has a breaking point.
So you just never want to getthem to the point where they're
broken, but you want to get asmuch out of them as possible so
that they can begin to rely onthemselves in a whole nother
fashion.
Yeah, but Jen, I want to Iwanted to bring up something
that that you did to uplift me.
(09:40):
Um and and it's important to theindividual when you're uplifting
them, because you think toyourself, wow, she really didn't
have to do that.
He really didn't have to dothat.
And so um there I have myniceties in life.
They're not must-haves, they'rethey're niceties.
(10:02):
And Jen did something for me,and it was around birthday time,
but guys, let's be really clear.
Uh, Jen and I aren't hurting fora birthday present.
We're not looking for a birthdaypresent, it's not necessary.
And so when we do things for oneanother, it's it's a lot of just
straight love and andunderstanding that you deserve
(10:24):
this, you you need this.
And so she had asked me, youknow, what I wanted.
Um, and she just always goes theextra mile.
And and what she did for me wasI had asked for one particular
thing, and and she, I hope youremember, but it was a pair of
shoes that I really, reallywanted.
And so I sent her options to buyone or the other, and she bought
(10:50):
them all.
And yes, I was very happy,content, and and and satisfied.
You know, it wasn't one of thosemoments of like, oh man, I wish
she had got these, or I wish shehad got those, or I wish it was
like this, and and that reallytook me to the next level, and
(11:11):
I'll tell you why.
Not because I have another pairof shoes to add to my
collection, but because I knowthis woman didn't have to do
that, but she did it because shewanted me to feel good, and I
did, and it gave me a little bitmore gas in the tank to just be
like, okay, I'm gonna go alittle harder now.
SPEAKER_00 (11:31):
I love the gas in the tank moment.
Oh, yeah.
Did you really not know that Iwas gonna buy you the more than
that one pair?
SPEAKER_02 (11:38):
I had no idea.
SPEAKER_00 (11:39):
Oh, I love when a surprise works out.
SPEAKER_02 (11:41):
Yeah, I don't get surprised very often, and that
was definitely one of them.
SPEAKER_00 (11:45):
Well, Corey is an excellent receiver of gifts.
I am, yeah.
So, you know, I just did anunboxing on our YouTube channel
for Fuzzy Furry Forest.
Uh-oh, we're moving intoupdates.
Uh yeah, but and we're gonnalink to that, yeah, beautifully.
But I haven't had a chance tocatch a reel or at least post
(12:06):
it.
I've caught reels of Coreyopening gifts, and I think we're
both really good at it.
Just the excitement and ooh,what's this and expressing um
gratitude and the surprise, thesurprise factor is great.
Yeah, I don't know if you'veever done this, but if you've
(12:26):
ever surprised someone and it'sjust kind of like, I have.
SPEAKER_02 (12:35):
And I don't, you know, you can say you don't like
when that happens, but you areless inclined to give good gifts
to that person when they're likethat.
You know, they're like, oh,thank you so much.
You're like, mm-mm, mm-mm.
I put some heart and soul intothis.
You better give me what give mewhat I need.
SPEAKER_00 (12:57):
And that might be the way they express
appreciation.
Uh, but I just am I've very usedto ours.
Yeah.
So, anyhow, I know I went intoupdates already, but that was a
great uplifting moment.
Absolutely.
And it's so needed that we dothis as people, just uplift
yourselves and each other andtake the time for it.
SPEAKER_02 (13:19):
Yeah, and before we transition completely, I want to
uplift the listeners becauseguys, we understand that you
know we've been through somechanges, and with us going
through, you're obviously goingthrough too.
Sometimes we miss a week out ofthe 400, which sounds crazy, uh,
episodes that we've recorded.
But um, we we just appreciateyou guys so much.
(13:40):
You guys have shared thepodcast.
We've hopped in and out of videotrying to make that work.
But you know, I'm just gonna beno, I'm gonna save the the rail
for that.
Uh we got another portion, butwhat I'm what I'm gonna say is
that you've stuck with us,you've shared the podcast,
you've gotten us around theworld as crazy as that sounds.
SPEAKER_00 (14:03):
Like there's somebody listening to us in Asia
and London, and well, it was areally strange New Zealand, and
like I'm like, wow, Nigeria,someone's actually Germany,
especially I mean, Europe issuch a big and Asia's such big
um real estate, if you will.
(14:24):
But yeah, this specific countryjust means a lot to us.
And I love Corey when we getmessages like, hey, are you guys
okay?
Because we've missed an episode,or I learned so much about you
from this one show youmentioned, and I have to
remember that.
Like, guys, if you listen to allour episodes, you would have
Corey and I pegged.
(14:45):
Oh, yeah, pegged, like openbook, open door, just open.
And that can take a little bitof a toll, right?
When you just so um forthrightand giving.
Okay, there it is.
Yeah, I love that.
Forthright and giving.
SPEAKER_02 (15:04):
So, yeah, we just want to say thank you, and we
we're uplifting you because ofwhat you've done in following
and sharing and helping andmotivating us because we need a
little, you know, kick in thebutton, the motivation too.
So, thank you guys.
Um, there's specific people outthere I really want to bring
(15:27):
out, but you know, I'm I'm gonnakeep this general and hopefully
in the very near future I cancall out some names because uh
there's some people that reallyneed to be shouted out.
SPEAKER_00 (15:37):
Yeah, yeah.
So, guys, we have some reallycool updates.
Um, while we've been taking someus time, you know, the work does
still continue.
I'm excited today.
I think it was today.
It was today.
When we woke up from our nap,Corey checks uh our emails, and
(16:00):
we got an email from ourillustrator, Vanessa.
Montano, yes, and so our nextbook is soon to be coming out,
and in this process, whathappens with that is she
finalizes the pictures and sendsthem to us, and we have a new
character that's um a co-star toone of our main characters
(16:22):
already.
SPEAKER_02 (16:23):
Yes, um, I'm so excited about this, and I and I
I know I just here's what I knowI know people are gonna get
excited about this.
Um, I'm doing things outside ofmyself, outside of what I
normally do.
Obviously, when you add someonethat's writing with you, they're
gonna bring out the pieces thatyour blind sides, and and this
(16:47):
was a blind side for me to writeabout female characters.
And when you write with afemale, uh yeah, Mike.
SPEAKER_00 (16:58):
Uh, where's the female love in this?
SPEAKER_02 (17:00):
Where's the balance in this, you know?
So she's balancing me, Jen isbalancing me out, and the female
characters are coming out, andit's it's pretty cool because I
just love the dynamics we'reworking with now.
So, guys, get ready.
This one's gonna be the nextcouple of books are gonna be
those just that that really nicegift that you wasn't expecting
(17:26):
to happen.
And especially for the kiddos, Imean, the girl kiddos are gonna
have a really good time withthese characters and and the
adventures in the fuzzy furryforest.
So that that's one of thebiggest updates.
Another one, and I gotta jumpahead of this one because um Jen
mentioned playing on the piano,playing on the keyboard, and
(17:48):
that's huge.
You don't know this, but this ishuge.
Why is it so huge?
Because Jen literally took abouta 10-year pause on playing a
whole decade, really though.
Yeah, and so almost, yeah.
This is big, and and it's notjust her unpausing playing,
she's starting to sing as well.
(18:10):
Yeah, so no, no, you don't get achance just yet.
SPEAKER_00 (18:14):
No, okay.
SPEAKER_02 (18:15):
Not only is she unpausing singing and playing,
she's unpausing, singing, andplaying in private and taking it
public, and she's gonna be doingthis in multiple areas.
And I gotta segue into somethingelse, but I want to give her a
chance to talk about this alittle bit.
Go ahead, Jen.
SPEAKER_00 (18:33):
So if y'all could see me, I'm uh smiling ear to
ear.
Ear to ear, yeah.
This is a big, big moment,pivotal, because it's one of the
fears and insecurities that I'vefaced.
For those who don't know, realquick, I used to play and sing
(18:53):
all the time.
Corey and I did duets and stuffall the time.
And um, I had surgery, andunfortunately, um it changed my
voice completely.
Um is it Corey?
Yes, there's a voicemail thatstill exists in the world.
Just call one of these numbers,you'll hear my voice from uh 10
(19:15):
years ago, and it doesn't evensound like me.
SPEAKER_02 (19:18):
It's so different that I called one day and it
came on, and I said, Who theheck is answering Jen's phone?
I was like, Oh, heck no.
And it was her.
It that's how different thevoice sounds.
SPEAKER_00 (19:28):
Yeah.
So I'm gonna make this realquick.
When my voice came out the wayit did, and I played the piano
and I sang, and it was just off,off, off, off.
I couldn't stomach it, stomachit.
I didn't want anything to dowith it.
So that meant I stopped playingthe keyboard too.
And I tried, and um, when I hada moment of my voice coming
(19:51):
back, my throat would just myvocal cords would just tire.
And so um, anyhow, I reallydidn't like my voice.
And now people are like, oh mygosh, you're I heard your voice,
and I knew it was you, and Ijust love your voice.
It's so different.
And um, I love my voice now, andI'm getting comfortable with the
(20:14):
register that I'm in.
And yeah, so I got to play andmy mom sang, so that was really
special.
I think that was definitely theway it was supposed to be for
the first time to be doing this.
Yeah, so I'm I am open.
I receive what's coming our wayas a result of being able to
(20:35):
play again on stage and be withyou doing music again, Corey.
SPEAKER_02 (20:39):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00 (20:40):
What in the world?
So that's take a rest just toadd something else.
SPEAKER_02 (20:45):
Yeah, that's the segue for me because um you
probably haven't heard metalking about the shameless band
a lot and know we haven'tcompletely dissolved.
Uh, we're just taking a uh adetour.
We're we're finding other routesto get to our destination.
That that's exactly what we'redoing.
(21:06):
Um, and and and that's foreveryone.
And it's not a bad thing.
It just means you know, you canpreserve the longevity when
you're able to do this.
Um, I think personally, anythingthat you're working on should be
again able to take a break, ableto pause for a minute, get some
gas, refuel, build back up, andthen go at it as hard as you
(21:30):
want to.
So this is allowing the band afew minutes in time to slow
down, and then it's allowing Jenand I to connect on a musical
level, um, like we had in thepast, which means a whole lot to
me.
Um it's big, real, real big.
So I'm looking forward to thosemoments again of connection in
(21:53):
in the musical world with withJen.
So welcome aboard.
SPEAKER_00 (21:57):
It's amazing.
Yeah, and you never know why theneed for the pause.
Right.
Right?
That's the thing.
Like I didn't I'm glad we didn'tmiss out on this.
So um, yeah, away we go.
Um, I wanted to say too,speaking of uplifting and
updates, there is a really,really good friend of mine that
(22:18):
has been listening to me playbehind closed doors, if you
will.
And so I'll just jump on and shejust is so encouraging because I
can sing any old way and play,and um, she just joins me in the
reindeer game.
So yeah, she knows exactly whoshe is.
So shout out and much love forjust the amazing friendship and
(22:42):
support in um pulling that out.
She definitely has helped me,you huge in pulling that out.
SPEAKER_02 (22:51):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Any more updates you want totalk about, Jen?
SPEAKER_00 (22:55):
Um no, I think they're gonna be up and coming,
and so just stay tuned and andlean into what we're doing
because it's gonna be good.
SPEAKER_02 (23:08):
It's gonna be real good.
Uh my last update is we we'rehitting platforms, we're we're
hitting bookstores.
Uh, we we've already uhannounced that we were in Barnes
and Noble.
Whoop, whoop, that's huge! Oh mygosh, I'm just okay, sorry about
that.
But um Walmart.
Um, we're working on Target,we're working on some
independent stores, and this isa lot of like that that moment
(23:35):
when you you have to just reallyfeel good about it inside.
You you can't express it anykind of way, but on the inside,
I just I feel like I'm glowing,the sun is busting out of me
because I'm just so um contentwith the work that we've put in,
(23:56):
and now the journey is startingto show the rewards of the
consistent pacing ourselves andrunning and keeping pace, you
know?
Yeah, just it's amazing.
I can't I don't I don't evenhave words for it.
So just know this it feelsreally good.
SPEAKER_00 (24:14):
It really does.
Um, I do have something toshare.
I am stoked for next year.
Corey is gonna start providingworkshops on writing, and I'm
going to partner with him andbring out some journaling um
things and just setting a spacewhere we can be together and
(24:39):
just write without overthinking,just whatever's on your mind and
your heart, what does that looklike?
Expressed, um find out who youare as a writer and bring that
out.
SPEAKER_01 (24:49):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (24:50):
And then it's gonna be uh part two.
If you're interested in parttwo, which I highly recommend.
Um, we know that we are in aworld of people independently
doing things.
So uh I think we've not, I thinkwe've had enough time, Corey
especially, just knowledge andhow to self-publish.
And then also if you don't, whatelse there is, we've met a lot
(25:12):
of really great authors alongthe way who are published, and
so they'll be able to sharetheir journey as well.
Yeah, so that is going to bepart of 2026.
SPEAKER_02 (25:24):
Yeah, and I'm gonna have some of a little bit to say
about that in our win section,which is coming up.
So uh let's talk about somewins, Jim.
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (25:33):
What what's yours, Corey?
Like, are we talking big wins,small wins, just wins in
general?
SPEAKER_02 (25:38):
Just some wins, you know, that that we can share,
and hopefully someone can feellike they can piggyback off of
those wins and and catch thisthis this uh the wind of
winning.
The wind of winning on thesailboat.
SPEAKER_00 (25:57):
All right, all right, so I know we've already
talked about some of the stufffrom Jenko's perspective.
I have one that I'd really loveto share with everyone here,
man.
You know that kind of way whenyou're in a situation and
there's a responsibility youhave, maybe, and you realize I'm
not equipped for this.
I don't know how to do this.
(26:18):
And that was a very real momentfor me in this new position, um,
is grief support.
Uh, I have always processedgrief internally, way down deep
internally.
I don't typically talk about it.
Um, and so there was a big eventthat happened, very sad event
(26:39):
that happened at work.
And part of my job would havebeen to support this team, and I
would have supported them withlove.
That's never not a thing for me,and compassion, understanding,
and just leaning in and andbeing there for them.
But as far as words related togrief and understanding the
nuances and the and the type ofsupport that's needed, um, I was
(27:03):
so blessed to be able to talk tomy boss about it.
And um, and this is amazing tome.
We just plugged in and saw whatwas out there, and so now I am
in a workshop to become a griefeducator.
That's a huge win.
I think grief is so griefsupport is so needed in our
(27:24):
world because this is anythingto do with loss, right?
It doesn't have to be throughdeath, it could be many things a
job, losing a job, um, nothaving a relationship with
someone anymore, right?
Just those big changes.
So that's a win.
SPEAKER_02 (27:40):
That's a huge win.
SPEAKER_00 (27:42):
I get I get to learn all about it and and grow.
SPEAKER_02 (27:45):
Yeah.
I wanted to touch on a littlebit of what you shared as far as
the workshop because that's ahuge win for me.
SPEAKER_00 (27:52):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (27:52):
And for you.
Uh, when I say me, it gives mean opportunity to share my
knowledge and wisdom andexperience in the publishing,
writing, um, also someillustrative parts of putting
out a body of work.
A lot of people are comfortablewith the YouTube, a lot of
(28:14):
people are comfortable withGoogling or AIing information
about that, but some people needthat one-on-one or in-person
type of uh learning setting.
Yeah.
And when this presented itselfto me, I realized like that
here's an opportunity forsomething that's that's missing.
(28:34):
Uh a one-on-one or an in-personchance to learn some of the
steps and possibly all the stepsand get to know what that's
about.
And then partnering and couplingthat with journaling and
writing, period, uh, with Jen.
Huge win because guys, there'snothing more, and and I'm gonna
(28:56):
say the obvious part out loud,excuse me.
But Jen and I love to worktogether, and it does something
for us when we're able to worktogether.
We used to didn't look forspaces to work together, but now
we see the importance of husbandand wife and partnering with one
(29:18):
another to put something out andgive it to the world.
Uh, it's received so much betterfrom a husband and wife couple.
It's it's also received um on alevel that is taken more serious
when there's two people thathave been doing this for any
amount of time and they see thatyou know, we're committed to
(29:42):
what we're teaching, but evenmore so committed to one
another.
So these are all big wins thatwe're experiencing and and
knowledge that we're now walkinginto and saying, you know what,
we let let's live in this space,let's embody this space.
SPEAKER_00 (29:58):
Yeah.
Want to end this part with thisthought is that you have to be
open to the conflict and thefriction.
When I think about everythingthat we've been through and
said, Oh my gosh, this is whywe've kind of been fighting or
(30:19):
bucking the system because it'sthe thing that actually works.
SPEAKER_01 (30:23):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (30:23):
Right.
And so just remember that whenyou're going through something
and it's like, man, why is thisso big in my life right now?
It's usually because that's thething.
Yeah.
That it's supposed to be, youjust got to figure that part
out.
So um, yeah, bring it.
Like, I just am excited aboutlearning and then being
(30:46):
partnering, um, partnering withpeople who desire the same
thing.
For those who don't know aboutCorey and I or Jenco, I just
think we are one of the biggestcheerleaders ever.
Like when we work with peopleand they're in their element, it
just excites us.
(31:06):
It brings us so much positivityand life creativity that we're
all about it.
So, anyhow, ah the winds, thewinds are so good.
SPEAKER_02 (31:18):
The winds, um, that moves us into our last and final
space, and it's just keeping itreal and what that means to us
and what it's meant to us uh inthis journey that we've been on,
and able to just pause for asecond, look back, and
acknowledge those things.
(31:38):
What's what's been real aboutthis journey, Jen?
What what give me a couple ofthings or maybe just one thing
that you've you've had toacknowledge.
Oh man, I gotta keep it realabout this.
SPEAKER_00 (31:53):
Man, that's such a loaded question.
Uh-huh.
So if I had to pick one thingright now.
There are times when it can getkind of lonely.
You know, when you're justputting your work out there
continuously.
And what I mean by lonely isyou're just wondering, like, how
(32:15):
is this hitting people?
Um there can be a fear ofrejection.
Fear is a little bit a strongword, but that's always the
thing, right?
Like, are people gonna likethis?
Um, are they gonna see what thisis about?
Um, and you I think at the endof the day, as a creative, it's
(32:36):
nice when people appreciate yourwork.
So um when you don't hear itsometimes, which is very few and
far in between, but when it doeshappen, it's like, oh, didn't
that go well?
Did it not translate?
You know, that kind of way.
It's like it really kind of messwith your mind and your heart.
(32:58):
So you just always have to stay,stay up and be protected about
that and be confident in who youare and whose you are and why
you're doing what you're doing,and what your purpose is and
what your mission is, and juststay true to all of that despite
um those moments.
SPEAKER_02 (33:15):
Yeah.
So in my in my keeping it real,um realization that's about a
part of keeping it real, right?
Um yeah, I I'm I'm just gonnasay it.
It's tough, but if I'm thesmartest person in the room, if
(33:36):
I'm the one doing what I'mtalking about or thinking about,
I'm probably in the wrong space.
And I had to come to thatrealization.
I have to keep myself in roomswhere there are people 10 times,
20 times, 100 times smarter thanI am, understand business better
(33:58):
than I do, understand the theprocess better than I do.
I cannot allow myself tocontinue to walk into rooms and
spaces where I have theadvantage because I'm more
advanced than everyone else.
So I've been forcing myself, andit's tough because when you have
(34:21):
to ask questions, when you haveto admit you don't know
something, it's hard.
That is not the easiest part ofmy day to say, I don't
understand.
Please help me understand.
Can you show me how to do this?
Can you tell me how to get fromthis level to the next level?
And so that's been my 100% keepit real moment, and that
(34:45):
realization that I'm not gonnago back to that advantage
position, that feel-goodposition, because that's what it
really is.
It's about my pride and my ego.
Hey, I I can teach everybody inthis room something about this,
or I can show them that, and Ijust don't want it anymore.
I crave to have more wisdom,more knowledge, and more
(35:09):
understanding.
If you're listening to this andyou're saying, What is he
talking about?
I'm talking to you.
I am talking directly to youbecause the moment you reach the
plateau, what are we doing thisfor?
SPEAKER_00 (35:26):
Yeah.
It's so important.
And I was gonna even sayearlier, Corey, when you were
talking, um, one of the things Iwanted to mention about you, and
I think we could do an episodeon this, is through all of this,
relationships are so key, andthis is what I mean.
Relationships that Corey seeksout with people um always adds
(35:49):
value to the big picture.
And the way you network Coreyand build relationships isn't
just like lateral or sameknowledge type things, like you
know how to build up and reachout to people who've already
done the work or they have theirexpertise, and you plug into
(36:11):
them and you come very humblewith needing that information.
That's a gift, that's a gift,and it it looks very tiring when
I watch you do it.
It's like, wow, this is intensebuilding uh and seeking out and
putting yourself on the otherside of their desk to say,
(36:34):
here's where I'm at.
Now show me.
And I think that's valuable,especially in this space of AI.
I mean, you can easily get thatinformation from AI, but there
is something that's differentabout people who have walked it
and talked it and done it.
SPEAKER_02 (36:51):
Can can I say something about that, Jen?
Yeah.
Um, when I talk about AI, it'sit's not always in a positive
light, but it's definitely notin a negative light.
Um, you have to be the masterand not the slave.
So when you get ready to createsomething that you need AI's
assistant, I can encourage thatyou be the master and not the
(37:12):
slave.
Don't let AI do everything.
But that's not what I want totalk about.
What I want to say right here iswe forget when we're creating
things, how important the humanconnection really is.
And when I go and I sit withsomeone and I'm allowing them to
mentor me and tutor me and showme different aspects of what I'm
(37:38):
interested in, I'm not doingthat for five minutes, 10
minutes, a couple of weeks.
I'm doing this for a lifetime.
I what I mean is I'm building arelationship that where if I see
this person 10 years from now,I'm gonna be able to say, hey,
how's it going?
And get a response back.
(37:58):
Not like, okay, you used me forwhat you needed, now you just
moved on.
Um, it's so important to me tobe able to build a relationship
that lasts for an eternity.
And this is where the AI thingcomes in.
That relationship won't get oldand replaced with the next best
thing.
Meaning, AI will go out ofstyle.
(38:21):
Something in AI will go out ofstyle and you have to upgrade.
These relationships are forever.
SPEAKER_00 (38:28):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love that.
Something to think about as weend this episode is that we are
built for connection.
Yeah.
So I think my overall questionis how are you connecting with
someone today?
And someone new, right?
Those are really important tohave the new connections.
It's great for our brain, greatfor our minds, our spirits, our
(38:50):
hearts.
SPEAKER_02 (38:50):
Yeah, it does wonders to you.
Yeah.
For you, with you, all thatstuff.
SPEAKER_00 (38:55):
All of it.
All of it.
Well, I guess this is it.
And we are going to the end ofthe room.
Yeah, we are here, and uh, weplan on being here every week,
definitely until the end of theyear.
That's something you can counton.
So you know us to take theelevator.
We say, look up and let'selevate every day.
SPEAKER_01 (39:23):
Elevate every day, elevate, every day, elevate,
every day.
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