How do top leaders captivate audiences and drive action? Carmine Gallo distills the communication habits behind Steve Jobs and Jeff Bezos into practical moves you can use right away. From minimalist slides to memo-driven meetings, and from relatable stories to memorable metaphors, this episode shows how to simplify, persuade, and be heard.
In this episode, you will learn:
✔️ Why simplicity signals confidence and increases retention
✔️ How to wrap data in a narrative so people care and remember
✔️ The Amazon rule that replaced slides with written memos
✔️ How to manage nerves with deliberate rehearsal under pressure
✔️ A simple structure to avoid the curse of knowledge. Start at the top
Whether you lead teams, pitch clients, or present to executives, these strategies will help you communicate with clarity and credibility.
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MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE
📖 Talk Like TED by Carmine Gallo: https://amzn.to/3N9Fgn2
📖 The Bezos Blueprint by Carmine Gallo: https://amzn.to/4gpDaOi
📰 Carmine’s Columns on Inc.: https://www.inc.com/author/carmine-gallo
🎙️ Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard: https://armchairexpertpod.com/
TRANSCRIPTION
Carmine Gallo: We’re all storytellers. We’re wired for story. It’s how we process the world through narratives and stories. It’s the way we communicate information, mostly through stories, not bullet points on a slide.
Andrea Wojnicki: If you wanna communicate like the world’s top leaders, then you’ll love this episode with Carmine Gallo, bestselling author, storytelling guru, and expert communication coach. We’ll reveal storytelling secrets from Steve Jobs and Jeff Bezos, and break down how you can craft stories that connect, persuade, and stick.
Let’s do this. Let’s talk about talk. I’m Dr. Andrea Wojnicki. Please call me Andrea. This is Talk Sbout Talk, the podcast where I help you communicate with confidence. I also write a newsletter. We’ll put a link to that in the description.
About Carmine Gallo
After years of following Carmine Gallo,
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