BONUS EPISODE 4: Sex Toys, Unconventional Pleasures and the Misrepresentation of Kink

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Well, well, well, go ahead and open up your ears,
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You're listening to Talk DirtyTo Me.
Hello everyone, and welcome toTalk Dirty To Me, where our four

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different friends with the fourdifferent perspectives talk
dirty to one another.
Today, Casey is on a flight, soit is just the three of us, but
we do have Sarah Marie, ourlocal vanilla.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
This private.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
And Stephanie, our neighborhood spanko.
That's what we do.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Hi guys.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Me Tosen.
I know stuff.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I've seen things there have been places, the King
of Kink everyone, the King of.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Kink, the King of Kink, king of these Living life
doing things.
So I got some stories.
But I heard that y'all readsome books.
You saw some things, did thingslike that I got media
recommendations, and I thinkStephanie's got media
recommendations.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
So do you want that as the appetizer or the dessert
after the meal that is going tobe Tosen's kink adventures?

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Let's let's do appetizer, that way I don't chew
up time on accident, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Stephanie, do you have any media recommendations?

Speaker 3 (01:22):
I do.
I am going to go out on a limband say that I am a fan of Black
Mirror.
Every season gives me somethingto think about as a whole.
Do I love every single episode?
No, it's a weird show that likebecause each episode doesn't
really have to do with the otherepisodes, like if this were any
other show, if it in like twoepisodes in one season, I

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wouldn't keep going Like, thisis just a different show and I
really enjoy this new season.
It's sort of tapping into likethe AI fears that are out there
and it was going so lovely untilI got to the most recent.
Well, the second episode that Iwatched, which was Lock Henry
and it's got Samuel Blokin andMahala Harold I think it's her

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name and Daniel Portman, which Iknew him from Game of Thrones.
The director is Sam Miller andthe writer is Charlie Brooker,
who is actually one of the mainwriters of the whole series of
Black Mirror, and this episodewas so good, like, as an actor
and an avid film watcher, it hadlike everything for me for
horror, because horror is myfavorite genre, but it's also

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the genre I have the mostproblems with.
Like it's not always done welland I want it to be done well,
and so this episode inparticular had to do with a son
who brings his new girlfriendhome to meet his mother and
they're both filmmakers and theyend up doing a story about this
serial killing that happened inthis part of Scotland that this

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kid was from, and you kind ofget really deep into it and it
sounds like just the mostdemented murderous, terrible
human being and the end of itkilled me because the end of it
made the villain kink and thatkilled me because it's just-.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
What do you mean by made the villain kink?
How do?

Speaker 3 (03:05):
you make the villain kink.
I feel like the reason I seethat is that's not a bad choice.
It's just to me, low hangingfruit at this point.
It's always like the personwho's a sexual perv, they're the
weirdo or they're the like.
Nothing that could that a childcould maybe find out after
their parents have passed.
That was an activity that theirparents did together.

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Maybe it's not that they broughtpeople back to their house and
tortured them together as acouple.
Maybe they were meeting up withconsensual couples.
I'm just saying it, just I feellike that is such an easy bad
guy.
It's just there's not enoughrepresentation, in my opinion,
on the other side of kink, wherethe whole episode could have
been great in my personalopinion, which is selfish and

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all about me but if they wouldhave made it that, it was still
shocking and the documentary wasabout that they found out that
their parents had this kink, butit was consensual and they
didn't end up murdering people.
They just tortured people whowanted to be tortured or who had
that desire, because, boy, theyreally come down hard on kink
and perversion and sickness andwanting to tie someone up and

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hurt them, and I guess I needmore evidence that that's out
there.
I'm sure it is people doingthis non-consensually, but I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
I know I get what you're saying about the low
hanging fruit.
I feel that way, a lot abouttreatment of the female
character and using sexualassault as a plot mechanic.
I feel like they use kink as aplot mechanic to say, well, this
is why this person is yucky.
It's like no, no.
But, you can't keep short,cutting it that way, because

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it's not, it's boring and lazy.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
That is exactly how I felt, and it's this build up to
.
The main character in this istheir son, and he's this lovely
human being who treats hisgirlfriend lovely, and you have
all of these ambitions you seein him and root for him.
Well, two just utter sadisticpsychopaths.
I don't think they createsomeone with such empathy, and

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so it just to me it was like, oh, it was a careless plot.
In my personal opinion, youhave to watch it for yourself
and see what you think.
But I just I loved every secondof the acting is brilliant.
As a filmographer, thecinematography is great.
It just man, I don't know, Ijust get tired of the whole
trope being that like, oh, theyhad a sexual perversion, they're

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the mass murderer of the town.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, yeah.
And it gave away like an evencooler twist of being like these
kids are so suspicious of theirparents and like are looking
into like what seems to be likethis violent crime and things.
But it turns out that it's liketotally consensual and fine,
like they're like to make theending that they are the serial
killers and they are killingeverybody in town, instead of

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they just stumbled upon theirparents, kink and everything's
fine, and like they've come intoa party where all the missing
people are and they've just beenin a kidnapping king for weeks.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Like did you see it?
Cause you're nailing it.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
I mean, I've seen similar processes and like where
they decide that it's just likebecause you have this
perversion, you've definitelydone something bad instead of
taking the opportunity to belike I know this looks bad, but
something beautiful is happeninghere.
If I ever told you about likedocumentary, I saw that was like
basically helping this guy withhis kink about wanting to have

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sex with buildings and like theyhave this little group of
people.
The sex therapist is like alittle person who tells people
all these things and has thislittle group of people who have
odd or hard to see through kinksand that little group like
comes together to build acardboard city that his wife is
in one of the buildings so hecan have sex with his wife.

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But it really feels like youhave sex with a building and I
was like that's awesome, that is, let's do this All right, yeah,
this is more fun Totally.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
And again, it's not that I didn't have fun watching
the episode I did.
I can remove myself from kinkand be like oh, crazy, but I'm
more as like a filmmaker writergoing oh, come on.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
And low hanging fruit .

Speaker 3 (07:05):
That's the only way to describe it, and I don't feel
like that show is a lot of lowhanging fruit.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, yeah, what's?
Merrick definitely has theskills to do 100 percent All
kinds of stuff.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Well, and it's also their kind of point is it's not
necessarily that they just runwith the mystery box or the red
herring, but they do circumventyour expectations 100 percent.
And the expectation is kink isyou?
Something must be wrong withyou, right, you know?

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, I mean they gave me one of the most like
fulfilling subversions of astereotype.
So like in like the black malecommunity, if you're a black guy
in your gay you're consideredon the down low and there's a
whole thing about it, right, andblack man did an episode.
That's like these two guys meetin the video game and you can
do whatever character you want.
One of the guys is like afemale fighting character in a

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street fighter game, but acouple of times into the game
then they have sex in the gameand so then they keep meeting up
to have sex, which is him, andhis best friend from childhood
is another black man, but whenhe's this woman in this game
they have sex with each other alot, but like they're both too
embarrassed to talk about it.
But the guy who's playing thewoman character like eventually
confronts him about it and likethey kiss in the rain and he's

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weird about it and it seems likethey break up and then it ends
on the scene of like certaincause problems with his wife and
all this stuff.
But like fast forward a yearand like it looks like there's
like a yearly anniversary wherehe can take the game back out
and rehab that experience withhis friend to do that, like his
wife, like gives him a pass todo that.
So it's like this beautiful,like conversation about poly and

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queerness and especially likeattacking that conversation
around, like down low black man,I was like great, great work,
black man, great work yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
All was my money.
I agree 100%, which is why Ican't like throw the whole show
away, cause one episode did mypersonal like something that I
can personally identify withlike dirty, like it's done so
many other things so beautifully.
It just was one of those thingswhere I thought, wow, it just
surprised me and I was just Iget tired of the sexual.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Devent being the.
The interesting thing is theymight not see it.
You know what I mean.
They, whoever was writing thatepisode, might not have any kink
in them, and so they're like oh, this makes versus someone
who's in the kink community islike, can we not, can we not?

Speaker 3 (09:12):
100%, 100%, which is why, again, no shame to these
people.
Again, the acting it is so toptier.
It's a really well written show.
I just my only quam was I wouldhave ended it differently, but
that's just me, so there you go.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
That's it.
You have probably a lot ofother people, though, Stephanie.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, maybe.
And again, it doesn't mean thatI don't ever want the kinkster
to be the bad guy.
That would be boring too, likefor sure.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
it's just, I've seen it and yeah, but yeah, let's,
but yeah, we've, let's go.
Let's course correct the otherway a little bit, you know yeah
yeah sure.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Or make the kinky person the bad guy, not because
they're kinky.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yes or that right there.
Or make the kinky person, thedetective, the kinky right
Detective.
There's gotta be a kink forthat right Detective.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Yeah, for sure, oh 100% 100%.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Let me investigate those draws.
And he went.
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Well, I have a media recommendation on the positive
side of things, OK.
Ok.
So I have been staying up waytoo late lately.
My sleep schedule is fucked.
I almost reached out to both ofyou because I know you're both
late night owls.
I've been staying up until like4 am Just.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
Oh, yeah, yeah, which .

Speaker 3 (10:20):
I haven't done for you.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, it is because I finally have time off and I've
been going through my grievingprocess and like some things
have shifted and then I had likea whole week without teaching.
My brain was like hey, let'snever sleep again.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
I'm like brain.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
And then it's like until the afternoon.
Then we're going to sleep allthe time in the afternoon.
It's because I'm of the empire.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
I was just going to say sorry, that's just your
internal vampirism.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
It really is when I can't sleep.
I have a few staples that I puton, one of which is the shining
.
Another one is Jane Eyre, andso I got the BBC app and put on
the mini series and I waswatching it and I was like man,
this is kinky, Like this wholestory.
Are you either of you familiarwith Jane Eyre?
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
I just watched Pride and Prejudice for the first time
the other day, which means Ihaven't read it even, and I,
which I love, books it has theMr Darcy, who is also Tom in
Succession.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Kira Knightley.
She's that project.
Yeah, I love that one.
It's so good.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
I absolutely I bawled so hard which was really
unexpected because I do cry infilms but I was like kind of
going into this, like oh, I'mtoo late to the game, like I'm
too, like this isn't going tomove me.
And boy did it.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Buddy, okay Side question have either of you ever
kissed in the rain?
Oh yeah, I have a story aboutit.
I have also kissed in the rainand maybe I was too young.
But I remember kissing someonein the rain and being like I'm
doing it, I'm doing that thingwhere you kiss in the rain.
I remember being disappointedjust because I was like I don't
want to be wet and kissing.

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Maybe I'm a texture person, butthere wasn't enough contrast
right Between, like the wetnessof the mouths and the dryness of
the, and the warmth rightVersus the like it was just all
wet.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
You know, I hear you now so.
So I have to go back and thensay I haven't kissed in the rain
like that.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Like in the rain, like the notebook in the rain.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
No, no.
But it was still like that kissbecause I always say that it
was a kiss in the rain.
But when Luke and I firststarted dating he was not really
great.
It's the thing, the I love youwords and I was like I'm a girl,
I shouldn't say I love youfirst.
So I like waited and waited andwaited.
But every day I was like welove each other.
I know we love each other theway he looks at me.
He loves me, but like I can'tsay it first.
And then one day in the car Iexploded into tears and said why

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don't you love me yet?
Cause we were going to 20swhere we went and got our soup
every Wednesday.
And he was like what?
And I was like you love me?
And he wasn't great with hiswords at that time and I went
back home and I was cause I hadno appetite and I was like if
you don't love me, I have to go.
And I got in my car and I droveall the way to Grandbury, texas
, and cried in my mom's arms andthen got right back in my car

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and drove back, cause I am aworkaholic and I put work first
and I was like I have a shifttomorrow and this is like
waiting table shift orbartending.
And I drove back like a day anda half later and got home after
a shift and it was stormingoutside and pouring rain and my
mom texted me have you looked atFacebook lately?
And I was like no.
And she was like you shouldlook.

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And I looked and Luke hadchanged his profile picture.
We hadn't spoken two days 24and 27 year old us and he had
changed it to a picture of usand I was like what?
And then I heard my door knockand I opened my door and Luke
was there with tears in his eyesand said I'm sorry, it's hard
to say I love you, but of courseI love you, and picked me up
and we kissed and it was it wasreally sweet and it was so long

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ago.
It's such a cheesy, silly storybut I'm always like that's me
kissing the rain.
But, were you in the rain?
No, but the rain was so hardcoming down and like thundering,
so like when I opened my doorand it was apartment complex, I
had to go out of my door to likegreet him, but it wasn't in the
rain.
In the rain, so I can see yourtexture thing.
So I don't, I can't reallyactually attest to it, but it

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was pretty.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
that's pretty great.
That reminds me of Mr Darcy andKira Knightley under that.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
And when I saw it it was not as staged as beautiful
and it was in Austin, texasAgain, at an apartment complex.
So visually it wasn't all there, but for my heart it was that's
how it is, baby.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
I got.
I got two killer kissing therain stories.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
So I'm telling you a dream.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
So the first one was I don't know, I'm 19, 20.
This girl that had a crush on,we've danced together and she
sings really well and where wasit?

Speaker 2 (14:34):
I'm imagining Adele.
It's Adele, right.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
I mean she sings as well as Adele for sure Nice.
And so me and her arebabysitting my goddaughter and
she like really loves kids andlike she had like lots of
moments there and we had likelots of cute times like talking
to kids and teaching her thingsand singing together and stuff.
So I'm walking her to a car andit's raining and so we're like
kind of like scuttling andrunning the car and I opened her

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car door to her to get in andshe puts one foot in and I'm
like I'm going to beat myself upif I don't do this and having
me do this for a while.
So I grab on and I pull herback out in the rain and we kiss
and it was good.
And so that was the first one.
The second one was I don'tremember how it happened we went
to a salsa dance party, like aDJ party that was outside, that

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had like a little bitty awning,like it was really small, and so
when it started pouring downrain there wasn't really enough
room to dance.
And that's how I met this person.
We had danced a few timesbefore, so I was like we
couldn't get room to dance.
I'm like, do you want to justgo dance in the rain.
And so we run out into the rain, we dance for the almost the
entire song.
Everybody like kind of likestops and what they're doing

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like watch us dance in the rain.
Somebody took a video of it andI don't know if I can ever find
that video.
We're dancing in the rain andthe song ends and I'm like, can
I, for the end of the song, canI dip you and kiss you?
And she's like, yeah, so I dipher in the rain in front of all
the people and then when I pickher back up, I do it to my lips
and we kiss in the rain for alittle bit.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Oh, that's so nice, and it was good, it was good
times.
Yeah, I love.
So, jane Eyre, back to theoriginal.
I highly recommend the movieadaptation with Mia Wasikowski
and Michael Fassbender.
It's awesome.
The cinematography is awesome.
The way that they edited downthe story is awesome, because
I've read the book and watched,like all the things I love a

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period, romantic, very soothingbut there's something about it
that's always made me go like Idon't know why, I think this is
kinky, but it feels like it'skinky and maybe it's the status
difference between them andmaybe it's the fact that he is
very dominant, right, and she'svery innocent, and that's a
whole trope in and of itself.
But there's an adaptation thatI want to recommend called the

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awakening of Ivy Leavolt.
It is by a woman named SierraSimone and she writes fire like
her sex scenes that she writesare insane.
They're bananas in my opinion.
But okay, the Markham Hallseries, and this is number one,
and I'm just going to read youthe description Yorkshire, 1879.
When Ivy Leavolt is leftdestitute by her brother's death

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, she is taken in by hercousin's brooding, tortured
widower, julian Markham,handsome and possessive.
It's not long before Ivy fallsfor him.
But Mr Markham has dark secrets, secret that may put Ivy in
danger as Ivy unravels themystery surrounding her cousin's
death, she falls deeper anddeeper in love with Julian, who
opens her body and her mind tohis indomitable will.

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But even as he draws pleasureand desire from her night after
night, Ivy can't shake thefeeling that their passionate
affair may end in violence.
Dun dun dun.
It's lovely.
She's the one that wrote thespanking scene that I was
telling you about Stephanie andher Thorn Chapel series, but
there's something about it, andI know that it's not outright

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Jane Eyre fan fiction, but itgives me the same vibe something
about like the destitute girlshowing Like it's a whole vibe.
So that's my recommendation forthose of you that want to read
a sexy book with some sexy kink.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
I feel like what you were also saying is that you're
going to write some Jane Eyresmut.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
I you know what I read a really bullshit.
Jane Eyre smut book once.
Yeah, it made me so fucking madbecause I can't remember who
it's by and I'm not going todrag them, but they fucking
ended when Jane Eyre leaves,like there's a part where she
leaves him and they're like endof the book.
And then they never went backto it again.
They're just like this is howit ends now.
But it was just bad writing andbad plotting and bad story

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mechanic and I was like fuck you, yeah, you bastard people.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Hey everybody, it's Tosin.
I just wanted to jump in realquick and mention that I'm about
to start telling a story abouta biblical figure and I can
textually use the wordprostitute, since that's how
they said in the Bible.
We are sex positive, sex workerfriendly here and I would never

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refer to someone who was doingsex work as a prostitute, but
for the biblical context I usethe words that they use.
Yeah one of the one of thekinkiest books I ever read was a
Christian book.
Have you?

Speaker 2 (19:14):
ever heard of.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, they're wild.
Have you ever heard ofredeeming love?
So maybe so.
It's like a period adaptationof the biblical story of now, I
can't remember.
I think Micah and Hagar orwhatever.
Like Hagar was a prostitute andlike God was like to test him.

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Was this like you're going tomarry this prostitute and like
love her to Jesus?
I don't know.
And so redeeming love is asimilar story but it, like,
follows the main character,angel, who was sex trafficked as
a child, and you know he findsher doing a mission trip to
brothel or something like that,and then like rescues her and

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like they live together and he'slike I'm going to love you and
she keeps like running off orgoing off to have sex.
There is a lot of sex scenes init.
Like the core of the story islike her changing from having
meaningless sex with Michael,who waited a really long time to
have sex with her begin with,to like starting to have
feelings and feel something forit and then like running away to
do that and then gettingvengeance on her father by

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tricking him into having sexwith her, so because he's the
one who sold her.
And it's like I'm like I readthis, is like this was
recommended to me by recommendedto me by church people.
I'm like this is a horny book.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
You're making Sierra Simone sound tame.
I mean they don't like describewill do that.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah, they don't like describe the sex scenes.
They like describe what she'sthinking while they're having
sex.
They don't like really talkabout like the penetration of
things that are occurring, Likeat worst there's like a line
about being like you know, andwhen my father opened his eyes
and looked at me on top of him,like that's as sexual as it gets
and I could see like the regret, but no.

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Yeah, Well, I mean in the bookit's meant to like get revenge
on him, Like it's a of course,but I was just like that's.
I mean, it turned me on, I wasjust like, okay, but I'm nasty.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Well, beautiful.
You're beautiful and nasty andand you contain so many nasty-
multitudes.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
I do, I do yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Can we please have a shirt for toes in this, as I
contain nasty multitudes,because I think that's
appropriate, I'll call it.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Oh my gosh, well, just call it.
Speaking of nasty multiple ways.
Is that the completion of theJener?

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, that's just my book recommendation.
I pause it and I want to knowin the comments below if any of
our listeners also pause at thatJener might be a kinky book and
why.
And or if anyone reads thisSierra Simone book that I
recommend.
It's a short fast.
I just wanted to Sierra Simoneone on horny read.
Okay, the horny reads yeah, Ithink I remember Sierra Simone

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is bookmarked in my audiblebecause I think you brought her
up before she wrote a reallygreat kind of SNM book that was
a play on Camelot, on Guinevereand Lancelot and King Arthur,
but instead they're a thrupple.
It's not a love triangle, whichI personally love, because I
fucking hate it every timethere's a love triangle and
we're just going to spend thewhole time being like who should

(22:20):
I be with?
Be with both of them, if you'rein a love triangle right,
what's that movie where they'redrug dealers?

Speaker 3 (22:26):
and Twilight, what it's?
Blake Lively and she's the Girland the Thrupple.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yes, that was one of the first movies that I was like
, yay, they did it and it'scalled oh, it's been dirty crazy
, or savages or savages and it'scalled and it's got her and
Aaron Taylor Thomas.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Aaron Taylor somebody .

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Johnson, that's it.
And hot ass Frida Kahlo.
Oh, that's right.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
So my yeah, she's real good.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
And the book is brutal.
The book is different.
Oh, I've never read the book, Ijust I've read the book and the
and the prequel to the book,and both are lovely, amazing
yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yeah, I've been on that train since Buffy.
I'm just like, if you know, ifyou know, let Seth Green just be
with the werewolf and willow.
I'm going to beat you up.
It's just so stupid.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
There's in the Buffy comics there's a great dream
sequence Buffy is having whereshe's in a liminal space right,
and she like opens a door to oneof her dreams and it's her and
Angel and Spike all naked with,like you know, artistic ribbons
draped around them.
But it's like her fantasy ofher and Spike and Angel and I'm
like, yeah, that makes sense.

(23:36):
Why does that not make sense?

Speaker 1 (23:38):
That's the simplest solution to all of this.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
Okay, I'm going back to Buffy tonight.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Listen.
I live tweeted my Buffy watchat some point years ago Like I
was just Facebooking while Ijust binged through everything
and I made it through Riley GoodLord.
That was a long season.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
He's not, he's only bad because he's terrible.
But like when you take him,when you take him, when you
isolate him out, like if youwatch all of Buffy multiple
times and then, for whateverreason, you come back and you
just watch season four, you'relike okay, I get it.
Get it, riley, you know what Iwant to know?
I want to know about yourelectro playing your electric.

(24:19):
Me too, Me too, you're speakingon nasty multitudes.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Oh my God.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Casey should be so proud of me for getting us back
on topic.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Casey, I hope I'm going to tell her.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Text right now.
We got back on topic.
So you know, as the I was likeokay, well, I got to do some
changey stuff, say stuff to talkabout, and I am a fan of the
hands free masturbation ingeneral.
I like, I like that game.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Wait, what yeah?

Speaker 3 (24:48):
You masturbate with your hands Tosen.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
How do you not masturbate with your hands?
You need your hands to putthings in your bits, right?

Speaker 3 (24:56):
I've never seen a person look more like an AI
right now.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
You're frozen on the screen.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yeah, but your mouth is trying to catch up to it, so
it's it's not matching any ofyour words, but it's going extra
fast Because it melted my brain.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
I just sorry, here's what I'm imagining.
I'm imagining Tosen standingnaked in the middle of a room,
just standing there in an empty,empty room, and he's like
masturbating while not moving atall.
Right, like, because that's howyou masturbate, without your
hands.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
I tried for years to achieve immaculate orgasms,
especially when I was like Jesus, sing really hard, and I was
just like, all right, I'm notgoing to, I'm not going to lay
hands on myself, because that isunholy.
And if God wants me to climax,then he will give me the gift of
being able to do that with,like just my own mind.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
And so Christians jump through.
That's what you are ExactlyFrom many a wet dream going oh
my God, see, it wasn't even me,I didn't do that.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yes, the Lord, the Lord giveth and the Lord take it
away, and the Lord make itbecome a thumb.
She eats in the night.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Same.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
That's great, I appreciate it.
So I was like all right, whatcan I?
We're going to do.
And you know, I've gone throughlike several auto masturbators
and stuff.
But most of them are like, say,their hands free, but they're
not really like you kind of haveto deal with it.
And they're also like not sorryfor this information, they're
not set up for girthier members.
So, like a lot of them that arelike spinning or sucking ones,
they're like jam up becausethey're not set up for that

(26:21):
thickness, because your penis isso big, as if your large penis
it's fine.
It has a circumference that islarger than the sex toy makers
are making.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
That's fine, but also bless the toy makers.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Please keep making them.
Make them a little bigger, butyeah like have variety.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
Hello, that sounds like American clothing too.
Like we don't have sizes foreveryone.
We have sizes for a verylimited amount of people.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah, I was like come on, come on, there's a
demographic here.
And so you know, I'll try sometoys that do that and you know I
have one that's like a spinningone that's been doing well but
it does take like some deskconfigurations.
And then I had like came acrossa porn of like a person putting
a tens unit on like their lowerarea.
What kind of a tens unit.
So like people use those,they're like these little.

(27:09):
They have these little pads on.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
You know those guys, that those, those TikToks where
they're like you want to knowwhat period cramps are like and
they snap things to their.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, those are, those are tens units, that like
are really powerful.
So it's like they're theselittle pads and it's this little
PDF looking thing and I waslike, all right, I'm going to
stick these electrodes in pelvicareas and see what happens on
your very large penis sobasically he's like, let me have
period cramps down here.
Yeah, my first, my firstmistake.

(27:40):
My large penis is, tens unitsdon't work unless they're
sending electrical signals tomuscles Otherwise, otherwise
they're just sending anelectrical current.
So I put it on my penis firstand I turned up a little bit of
like nope, that's uncut, thathurts, right, because there's
not muscles there for it tocontract.
So it's just like sending anelectrical current through it
and I'm like, oh, not fun, right?

(28:02):
Also, don't put the tens unitsapart from each other, because
then it can close the circuitand you're electrocuting
yourself and it's not fun.
It's a very low grade.
So it's like it wasn't like itwas.
It hurt a little, but I waslike there's no damage and I was
wrong.
It was just like it's.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
Static shock yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
I mean I'm been, I was sterile before.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Oh, that's right, that's right.
No harm, no foul, no harm nofoul, we'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
And I was like it still works, I'll be OK, I'm
fine.
So then I was just like, ok,well, let me put it around the
muscles, let me put it on themuscles that contract when you
orgasm, the fine.
So I got one in the perineum.
I got some like all my thighs,some of my pubic bone area and
man, I got close Right.
I wasn't like I couldn't likedo nothing and climax, but it
was just like if I had the time,if I could sit for like an hour

(28:46):
or a couple of hours, Iprobably could get there, like
find all the right mechanismsfor it.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
You could go tantric with it and just.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
I could go tantric with it.
You know, get the breathingright and then get it done, and
so that was fun, you know it was.
There was definitely a lot oftrial and error and I have to
give it a shot again when I'mlike fully shave everything
because it doesn't agree withhair very well, since it absorbs
all of that.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
But is the goal, Tosin, when you say like
handsless masturbation?
Is the goal for you to like,put these electrodes on yourself
and then lay down and not moveand have?

Speaker 1 (29:16):
an orgasm.
Just lean back in my chair andlet it happen.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Lay back and think of where I feel like girl.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
Is this a girl versus guy thing?
Because I feel like girls, likeI can do that the vibrator, or
is that hands on, is like layingon top of a vibrator, hands on.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Well, are you holding the vibrator and moving it at
all?
No, no.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
No, I mean, that would work totally fine Like
that.
I consider that like I wouldn'tconsider like a stationary
flashlight or like a fake dollvagina.
I'm still like thrusting to getit done, but for me it's like
not touching myself and layingstill right and so like a
replicating, like being serviced, and so those are the or like

(29:54):
dollification right Like thatcould also tap into the
dollification kink if you're notmoving at all and still have an
orgasm.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Right yeah, I just.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
I really like just complete being like I dissipate
to nothing but the pleasure thatis being received, that I don't
have to manage.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
OK, no, I'm definitely moving around a
little on the vibrator.
I'm on my stomach, but I'm notusing my hands.
I see what you're saying, sojust no movement.
Just you're just laying there.
Magic is what you're saying.
I think.
Magic, what, what, what?
That's what I need.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
And the only thing that I've gotten that like works
is one like spinning, one thatI have which I am, my
imagination is is just beingweird.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
I did I want to know what?
Oh cool, so it At all?
What?
Oh for the?

Speaker 2 (30:44):
listeners so soon has this.
It looks like it's a cheesegrater.
Oh, 100 percent, but for your.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
But it has the same problem Like, as soon as it
requires any type of pressure,it stops Right.
So the problem with this one isI literally can only like go to
the very top, which is fine,you know, my glands get the jobs
done, but it's a veryprecarious situation where I can
set it up, where I don't haveto touch it, it's like such a
design.
Well, I do it really is, and Iwas like it, literally Just like

(31:15):
a little bit bigger.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
Is the patent like a legal, like some Christian men
own it.
They're like never, never getto pleasure man.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
This makes me want to do research because there's
this amazing blog that I readfor a while.
This person reviews sex toysand I wonder if they've ever
written anything on it.
It's called hey Epiphoria.
Hold on, I'll put the link in.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
So if your member was significantly tiny, do you
think that machine would workfor them?

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Well it is.
I don't even, it doesn't needto be significantly, oh like.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
No, just because it's .

Speaker 1 (31:48):
There's definitely a too small where nothing would
reach you.
You know, like if I put I do,if I put my finger like right in
the middle of it, I can feelnothing.
So if it's like the size of oneof my fingers it's probably a
problem.
I see, ok, but there's.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
But what you're saying is any bigger, any bigger
, and it's going to stop, right,yeah, like it's, if I, if I go
further than like?

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Is that if I go further than like that?
Much which is like about aninch in, then it It'll freeze,
even if it's like right off thebattery at its strongest motor,
and so I can only get like someof it in.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
And then, what company is that we need to call
them?
Now we do.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
I am working at a low price point because, like
there's some that I've seen,like the Quickshot launch, which
is like an open endedflashlight that is on, like a
machine that will move it up anddown.
For you.
That probably will work, likethose are big enough or
stretching enough and the motorLike 120, 130 to get the whole
thing.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
So I highly recommend , when you have a chance to go
to hay epiphoracom.
It's H E Y E P I P H O R A, andthe log line is where sex toys
go to be judged.
Oh OK, I love it.
She is so awesome.
She also reviews porn and otherthings like that, and she's got

(33:07):
like a favorites list and a toybox where she categorizes
everything Right and it's likefor the Virgo and you it's like
color coded as well and likereviews things for different
price points as well, so youmight be able to find like the
highest end on the lowest pricepoint for yourself for your
large, large penis.
It's not, it's it's aboveaverage, but it's not like huge,

(33:32):
ginormous penis for yourplanetary size, my intergalactic
cock, we have to.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
We have to set expectations.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
People are listening to this intergalactic cock from
here, yes, please.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
From here to deep space line.
So there's that.
So like I tried the 10s unitand that was close, it almost
got me there, I bought anothercouple of glands trainers, which
are just basically things thatlike cover the head and do stuff
.
One of them says it's a suckingfunction, but it's really just
like a pinhole size hole thatwill like close the air gap
that's in there.
It doesn't like do sucking.

(34:07):
And both of those have theproblem of just like the
vibration needs to be like justlike two decibels more and we
would be able to make it this.
By the way, this comes from athing right?
Because one of my guess I'mtelling this story.
One of my go to ways to masterit when I was a kid was vacuum
cleaners.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Really.
Oh yeah, it just seems like Ijust got told way too many times
that like if you sit on thedrain at the bottom of the pool
it'll suck out your internalorgans, and I think I thought
the same vacuum cleaner.
You've never heard the urbanmyth about oh my gosh, it's like
a classic pool urban myth thatif you sit, on the bottom of the
urban legends the urban legendOkay Is if you go to the bottom

(34:48):
of the pool, where the pooldrain is, and you sit on it,
you'll get stuck and then it'llsuck all of your internal organs
out of your poop hole and thenyou'll just like that.
Just like that, I know.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
And on top of you're going to drown because you can't
get up.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Yep, okay, well, the the actual horrible way to do it
True horror Cause.
That's crazy and not nevergoing to happen.
But it is don't ever get on jetskis, because I somehow got on
the algorithm of Tik Tok ofColoscopy bags.
Is that who you say it?

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Coloscopy bags.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Yeah, and all of these people had one thing in
common, and the reason they gottheir Coloscopy bag is they were
on a jet ski and they went tofall off.
But before they fell off, youknow, when jet ski shoot water
up at the back it shot up inthem and literally they said
they were swimming to shore withtheir intestines coming out of
their butt.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Nope, and I heard it, it's not an urban legend.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
This is like Google it right now and I'm like I
don't ever want to.
Google no.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Oh no, yeah, I've heard of jet ski streams
disemboweling people.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
So I feel like literally disemboweled them.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
I feel like if you put a vacuum on your penis,
you're going to suck out yourinternal organs through your
penis.
But you're just now telling methat's not true.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
No, and this is the vacuum cleaner the, you know,
suck on the floor thing.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Those are brand.
Did you have a brand that youlike?

Speaker 1 (35:59):
I don't remember what my child I'm assuming it's the
hose right.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
The hose, yeah.
The hose that you use Likewhere you have to put your top,
yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
And so in that hose, if you take off because there's
the extension one that liketapers, you take that off and
you get like just the hose thatis the perfect size to be able
to like create just like a smallenough space around it that it
like creates like a full servicevibration around everything.
And it was it is to this daythe fastest anything could ever
make me like.
It was 30, 40 seconds easyEvery time, every time.

(36:29):
Wow and was grand and I couldsit still.
I didn't have to like hold onto it Once it like had created
the section thing.
I could literally just like laydown and be done immediately.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
And you know, and it Is this Tosin teenager Tosin.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah, this is like young Tosin.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
So vacuum cleaners to teen boys are what shower heads
or bath faucets are to females.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's not.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
I put on penis and a lot of things when I was a kid.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
So what was the biggest mistake?
You put your penis into yeah,where did you?

Speaker 3 (36:59):
were Were you like no spring mattress oh yeah, I
didn't hurt myself.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
I had like cut a hole into a corner of my mattress.
I was like I was a pillowhumper when I was a kid.
And so I had like stuffedanimals that I'd opened up and
like pillows that I would, and Iwas just like why don't I just
like there had already been likea hole that had like kind of
been burned into my bed onaccident for matches?
And I was just like what if Ijust bit it?
And fortunately it opened to apoint where it was in the middle
of a spring, but it did meanthat I was, like you know,

(37:26):
banging my penis against springs.
That wasn't multiple springs.
That wasn't great, and I heatedup a piece of fruit once and it
was too hot.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
What fruit that?

Speaker 3 (37:37):
I don't remember, I think it's your call me by your
name moment.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Yeah, yeah, I don't remember which one it was.
I want to say apple, but Idon't think it was an apple, it
was squishier.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
I was about to say an apple.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
How yeah?

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Yeah, and maybe no, peach Pete had a pit in the
middle.
It's something without orange.
Maybe it was an orange.
Yeah, it was an orange becauseit's deceptively hot, because
like the inside got reallyreally hot but the outside
seemed like feasible.
So then I let it kind of holeand I went for it.
I was like I was uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Let's not do that again.
So to the citric acid.
My goodness.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Yeah, yeah.
But you know, all of theseskills have given me a sturdy
penis, which people are a bigfan of.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
A sturdy huge, ginormous penis, yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
I know my mom really likes being able to like do
whatever she wants to it and I'mjust like, no, we have a long
way to go before it's a problem.
So there's that.
That was the electric play.
I also have a partner that I'vebeen doing some like wax stuff
with, like burning candles anddoing things they had bought,
like a set that has likesparkles in it and like is a
little bit more slow burning inlower temp.
So I had some like wax pouredon my hand and man, that's warm

(38:41):
and I was like it's definitelynot like.
I was like I get it Right, LikeI get it.
It's the like, the anticipation, and then it coming and then
it's like a really sharp,intense heat pain and then it
kind of like dissipates and thenit's tactily really fun.
Like dried wax on the bodies iscool to like pick off and so
that was fun.
But I definitely have way morefun like drawing things on
someone's you know naked backthan I did getting wax poured on

(39:03):
me?

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Do you get pedicures, Tosen or manicures?

Speaker 1 (39:06):
I have gotten both yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
I don't get them.
Often I have friends who likethat's like their thing, that's
like their like release.
They just love pedicures.
And both times I've gone I'mlike, oh, they have hot stones
and wax and that is like wheremy brain is automatically drawn
to and it is like I don't findit like.
I don't think I find it kinky,it's just more like it's just so
warm and hot and then they peelthe wax off of you and it feels

(39:30):
amazing.
So I do.
How that could be?

Speaker 2 (39:32):
I just got an awesome gift from my boss at the studio
.
They got me like a really nicepedicure and manicure gift card.
And so they like put your wholehand into this bag of wax.
And then it like it's.
And she's like tell me if thisis too hot.
And I was like, first up, Iwill never tell you if it's too

(39:52):
hot because I refuse to admit tomake you alter your plan.
But second off, it was so cool,I was like I'm being turned
into a candle.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
That was.
That was the other fun part ofit for me too, because it's like
a couple of things that I amrealizing about my like dumb top
self things is like pretty muchsince that dollification
episode I've been like I'm verymuch enjoying turning people
into like art or bonded orinanimate or inactive things.
So the wax play like the moreand more you do it, the less and

(40:22):
less human they become right,and so like turning them into a
doll, like all of that is likeoh, this is I'm a fan.
I'm like painting the art thatI want to later rub up against.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Oh my gosh Well, did you ever do that thing when you
were young of letting someonedraw on your back right?
Like my girlfriends and I usedto draw on each other's backs
all the time, and I rememberbeing like this is heaven, yeah,
you know.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Or say, when people cracked an egg on your head, you
remember that, yeah, and thatfelt so good, yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
I know I all of those things.
One of one of the fun more likesubmissive things is that I've
done with a mama is that like alot of the times, like we
usually take a shower togetherand then she'll like do yoga on
my back and it is immaculate, itis heavenly, like it's so good.
Yes, please.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Tosin, have you ever done one of these?
You remember when we weretalking to the lovely silicone
human?
Have you ever done the thingwhere you're in the vacuum
sealed sandwich bag?
Do you know what I'm talkingabout?

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Yeah, the yes.
I want to really bad my, myhesitation, for it is like I'm
definitely like climax centric.
I either need to be being in aposition where it's like not
orgasm is like a power plaything.
I guess I can just put a condomon because it's like it's.
It's bad form to like come inthe back bag because it's really
difficult to clean and if I'mgetting that level of sedentary

(41:42):
deprivation and like people arerubbing on me and stuff like I'm
going to want to want to finish, but, like I said, I just put a
condom on.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
I see, keep it clean.
That sounds like it's right inyour wheelhouse.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Oh yeah, no, I was like I like milking tables and
all those things like those are,those are my jam and I was like
I want to do those.
I want to do he's so bad, sobad.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Anybody's ever gone one of those suction things into
a car cleaner, you know like acar wash or the things you're.
Oh, but you're in that.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Oh, you're protected.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Oh, that'd be wild.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
That does sound fun.
I've done a hydro massage whichis close to that.
It's basically a vac bag likeup to your neck and then there's
like a portable car wash thatlike runs up and down your body,
yeah, and I was like those arepretty cool.
And then I've been like on atable shower before, which is
kind of similar, like you laydown on a table and somebody

(42:30):
like bathes you was like ashower head on the table, and so
those are, those are all sexualway or in a non sexual way?

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Like is it a sexual thing?
I mean you can make to sexual,but you know, you know what I
mean.
Like is it like?

Speaker 3 (42:42):
I don't know if someone could bathe me in it not
be sexual.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yeah, it's a precursor to a naughty massage.
Oh, they give you a massage andfinish you funly.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Finish you fun, we're happy, finish you fun, happy
endings.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
I try not to use that phrase because that is part of
an abusive culture of happyending is well, so happy ending
comes from Asian massage parlors, and Asian massage parlors are
usually dealing with traffic,women.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Happy ending.
That's where they started.
Was that massage part thatphrase?

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah, that's what you would request to be like.
I would like to.
You know, I'd like a happyending.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
Here's more money, okay, so people would go to ones
who didn't provide that and belike I want a happy ending and
we don't provide that.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
That's rude You're you're assuming that because
you're saying like I think likerecently there's definitely been
like dudes who go to likelicense massage therapist and
are being like bros and are likeI don't have a ending, but the
term, the term happy ending wasjust like the code word for it,
cause the way that, like an ampis set up is like you pay to get

(43:44):
the massage, they're going togive you the massage.
If they deem it all that like,there's a whole process of like
how to present yourself, how toprove you're not a cop Like you
like show yourself show yourselfnaked as soon as you possibly
can, and then if you pass all ofthese tests and like the madam
is like it's fine, then you canrequest one, or they'll ask you
if you would like like anyextras or do you want a happy
ending?
And so that's where that codeword came from.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Side note I watched the first episode of warrior on
the HBO.
I did too, just before thisepisode.
Warrior, oh, did you really?
The very first episode, thevery first, luke, and I just
started it tonight.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
I saw.
I saw an ad for it.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Anyway, it had.
It's set in Chinatown in 1870,something in San Francisco, Very
cool.
I had a lot of naked women andI was like hoping.
I was hoping for a boy penis inthere, but no, no boy penis and
not loads of autonomy that Isee so far.
But this is just episode one.
I'm going to give it some more.

(44:42):
Yeah, it's got three seasons sofar.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Yeah, me too Same.
Oh SMC crazy, because I had.
I had not even seen previewsfor that till Luke and I got
home tonight we watched therighteous gemstones and right
before it was a preview for thatand we're like oh kung fu with
like a Western kind of bride andI watched evil dad rise, and
right before it was a trailerfor that.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Yeah, I watched the evil.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Have y'all.
I need to check this outbecause it seems like it's our
responsibility, but if any ofy'all watched idol, no no.
I haven't yet.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
You want to know why I'm like Johnny Depp kind of
creeps me out and knowing hisdaughter is in it kind of creeps
me out and I know that that'sweird, but I'm like I don't want
to watch his daughter be allnaked.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Well it's, I haven't watched it.
I've watched a lot of like Kingof podcasts where people like
respond to it oh, because it'sgot a.
It's got a pretty heavy DSdynamic in it, but it's gonna
make me angry, it's going tomake you angry.
It's like it's the the weekendis like the Dom character and
he's not really a Dom, he's justabusive.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
And so haha, and it's like all about to.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
It's all about making music and like cinematography.
It's like beautiful and likeshot really well and like looks
good and it's got like somekiller actors in it, like people
are doing their job, but it'sjust like you need to the King
consultant pretty badly, fromwhat I'm hearing, like I haven't
watched it and it's like anobsessive amount of sex scenes,
like it's like a time.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
If you're a filmmaker out there and a writer and
you're passionate and all of asudden you think to yourself I
think I want to have thischaracter that has a kink.
Please reach out to someonewith that kink.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Yeah, or yeah, kink or Google it even.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Or like they don't even do a cursory, a cursory
Google.
Just a quick search.
Like girls, I think girls didlike a really great job of like,
of like everything around insexuality.
There definitely was like thingsin there that were abusive, but
they knew, they talked about it, they were working through it
and there's just like to thisday.
One of the hottest scenes inall of media that I have ever

(46:37):
watched is Marnie, when she goesto the show open of like the
short guy and they have aconversation and he says
something like real dominant andsexy to her at the end.
That's like at the end and itwas like because I'm a man and I
know how to do things.
And then it's like a scene oflike her just like walking away
like vigorously and you thinkshe's pissed, but like as soon
as she gets to her room shecloses the door, leaving it's

(47:00):
the door and like puts her handsin her pants.
This is our master, the hottestshit I have seen.
I think about that every day.
Who's like?
Oh my God, well done.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Yeah, okay, you've convinced me.
My sister for years is like youneed to watch girls.
I feel like you should watchgirls and I'm like, okay, but it
just it's one of those thingswhere it's been gone for so long
.
I'm like I did that fullicitytoo.
It was really late to the gamewith fullicity and I loved
fullicity, so I highly recommendgirls.
I think it's incrediblyreflective of that culture.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Like so perfectly, yeah, and it's so funny.
The other thing that's veryfunny about it to me is how
angry it makes people.
They're like ugh, I don't wannawatch these girls being girl.
I don't.
There's something Sexual orthere's something very
interesting about how oursociety responds to female

(47:49):
culture or showing women inmultiplicity right, or showing
them in distasteful light, wherethey're like we shouldn't be
teaching girls this and it'slike what the fuck are you
talking about?
No, you're just definitely.
You're just definitely betelling these stories, yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Because they're happening to people.
It's one of the ones where it'slike I'll talk about like I
love girls.
I think it's great, I thinkit's a great show.
One of the complaints that Ihear about it is like it's hella
white and I'm like fine, you'reright, that's also.
You're coming up with acomplaint that has nothing to do
with what it's trying to do andI was like sure they could have
casted more black people in it,but it didn't make sense.

(48:25):
the location that they were infor like black people to be in
their lives, like that's wherethey were and what they were
doing and you're following awhite woman's journey and
finding themselves Whiteprivileged yeah.
I was like you would be hammingit in to have that in there,
and I was just like just takethat as a part of the story.
That, like this, is what thiswoman's life would really look

(48:46):
like.
Yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Conquer.
I also think that they didabuse really, really well.
They nailed it.
They really did.
No, what were you going to say?
I was going to.
I can't remember the exactepisode, but it was the
standalone episode with just I'mgoing to paraphrase this
horribly, but what's his name?
Ends up taking his penis out.
Begat of nothing, right?
She's meeting with a writer whoshe said he was a misogynist

(49:11):
and he's arguing back with herand then he ends up and I can't
I do.
do you know what I'm talkingabout?
I can't remember the episode orthe context.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Yeah, she she's been working with like a publisher
for a couple of days or like apublisher a couple of days and
like, and he's been like kind ofsaffing around whether or not
he's going to publish her or notand the way that they play that
seat off is like the guy waslike, oh, I thought this is what
she wanted and cause he justkind of like willy-nilly, like
drops trial, like she turnsaround to grab something, comes
back and he's like pantsless.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
And I looked it up.
It's from season six, episodethree of girls.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
The title is American bitch, yeah, and it's like the
episode of sex in the city whereCarrie has the guy that takes
her under his wing at Vogue,cause the head lady at Vogue so
mean to her and he's like couldbe her father, like age wise
difference, and she's not givenany inclination that she's into
him and he's like helped herreally do well at Vogue, like

(50:03):
telling her how to make herarticles good.
And he's this like seems like afather figure and he takes her
to that like Vogue's stash oflike clothes that they use for
models for the cover.
And she is in heaven cause sheis just seeing it all and she
turns around and his he haddropped his trousers and she was
like, oh, pull your pants up,you could be my father.
Like Like.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Listen this one.
It says Lena Dunham's HannahHorvath has summoned to the
apartment of a fictional famousnovelist, chuck Palmer, played
by Matthew Rice, to discuss ablog post she wrote about
accusations of sexual assaultagainst him.
The conversation doesn't gosmoothly.
Then it does, then it doesn't.
What unfolds is a nuancedexamination of the power dynamic
between influential men and thewomen they abuse.

(50:44):
It's real good.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Oh, I think I was conflating the scene with the
boss that she had in like anearlier season, which was played
by John Cameron Mitchell.
No, he killed it.
He killed it so good.
And I always like super respectmen in series like that who do
a good job of playing aggressors, right, because somebody has to
do that for that story to betold.

(51:06):
If you're going to tell it,yeah, and so, especially when
it's like someone like thatactor, who it's like you don't
look at him and go like, ah,you're a predator, right, and so
it's, it's also really good tolike take somebody who also
people associate with like verywholesome roles, to do that.
I mean, like Adam Driver alsodid a really great job, but
people, I think people have aneasy time seeing Adam Driver as

(51:27):
a bad guy.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Hello, he literally played Darth Vader.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
Come on he literally, and so, yeah, I appreciate it
greatly.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
Say you've sold me, I'm going to start it.
No yeah, go go watch Girls, forSure, that's where I'm at.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
But yeah now, it's been fun figuring out how to get
my hands free life.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Yeah, you're going to do any you need to like create
a toy.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
I've thought about this for a while, and so you
know there's lots of things thatI haven't tried yet that I need
to like.
One of these days, once I getout of this, like casual thing,
I'm in, I'm going to get thequick shot launch, but my worry
about that one is like it's avery powerful motor, so it looks
like you have to hold on to it.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Or it'll just like fly off your way, yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
And I'm looking for something that will, like, sit
there on its own.
And there's things that arelike more complicated
apparatuses that like you needto like vice grip to your desk
and stuff.
Yeah, and you know none of thethings that have suction cups,
that say that, like, the suctioncups will handle it are strong
enough, because if it's powerfulenough, it's heavy and the
suction cups are not usuallygood enough and if it's not,
you're going to have to, likesee, clamp it to a shop table or

(52:29):
whatever.
Exactly, I got to get duct tapeout and all these things he
needs cement.
And I was like and I'm nottrying to do construction work
before I masturbate.
That's not what I came here todo, Unless that's your kink and
it sounds like it's not.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Oh my gosh, tosen, did we finally find a kink?
That's not your kink, do?
In construction before kink.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Honestly, I've done it, and I mean, there's when I
was, like, wanted to practicebottoming, I had this.
I had to make this wholeapparatus with a trash can and
pillows on the floor and buildthis whole thing so that
everything's at the right heightso that I could, like,
comfortably back up on it.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
And you were like never again.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Oh no, I did it many times.
It was just, it was more thanit was.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
Four times he said yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
The problem with that configuration was just like it
was a lot of setup and it wasn'tnecessarily very quiet because
the trash can would hit the walland oh sure.
There were always people in myhouse.
So but no, yeah, I'll find it,I'll find something.
I mean this one, you know itgets the job done.
It's stuck around.
The other two that I got I'mprobably not going to keep just
because they're not strongenough, and they're just not

(53:34):
strong enough.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
Yeah, they got to be strong for your huge, ginormous
incredibly large sometimesplanetary.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Just not strong enough.
Try harder.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
They're not strong enough to be your man.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
Thank you.
Yeah, sam, I'm sorry, thank you.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
I ate out of clown and I'm sorry.
What?
Yeah, one of the one of thepeople that I am starting to see
regularly for pillow prints andthings and like shooting some
content with they had just likegot done with a clown gig for
one of the nights we wererendezvousing.
I was like I don't know how youfeel about this, but can I just
stay in my clown outfit?
I'm also just started my period, but I think this will make for

(54:10):
every she's like real witchycrunchy person.
She has a video of her likeorgasming, licking flowers and
Wow, and I was like none ofthese things are problems for me
.
Let us, let us proceed, proceed.
That was fun.
That video is up on Love Honeyor whatever it's called,

(54:30):
somewhere.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
That's lovely.
Well, there you go, people.
If you need to see that love,yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
No, it's that love honey.
What is the real name?
It is loyal fans.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Oh, that's nice, Instead of only fans.
What's the difference betweenonly fans and loyal fans?

Speaker 1 (54:45):
They're the same, they're the same.
They do the same thing, loyalfans is closer to fans Lee and
like UI structure, but it's thesame concept.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
Nice, it's just, somebody didn't have that much
of imagination.
They're like what sounds likeloyal, loyal.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Only loyal fans.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
I mean just loyal fans, but it's yeah, only ours
are loyal.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Well, ladies and gentlemen, these and themsters,
we are concluded at the end ofthe hour.
Would we like to wrap theepisode here?
Tosin learned that he's stilllearning how to find things to
put up on his huge penis.
Stephanie learned that shewants to watch girls.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
And.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
I learned about that you need to make Jane airborne.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
Oh yeah, that's right , jairus, one is coming, yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
I'm going to try to do the Soutro.
Believe me if I'm messing up.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
I'm sorry you got this.
I believe in you.
Yeah, we love you.
You're great 100%.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Thank you.
Thank you for listening to thepodcast.
Everybody, please go subscribeto our Patreon so we can
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(56:00):
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(56:20):
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Thanks for listening to us andy'all have a good night.
Thank you for joining us andtalking dirty with us.
Bye, bye.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
Bye, bye.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
Oh, next time, let's all stand perfectly still and
have an orgasm.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Perfectly still yeah.
All right, thank y'all, bye.

Speaker 4 (56:41):
Talk dirty to me is a podcast by Little Renegade
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It stars Sarah Marie CurrieCasey Sammie Casey.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Why do you sound real sexy while you do it?
Do I?
No, why don't you?
Oh, why don't I?

Speaker 4 (56:53):
Yeah, like you, remember how you read your
synopsis and you go like oh, youwant me to do it like that.
Yes, okay, great, okay, Genius,okay, talk dirty to me is a
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It stars Sarah Marie Currie,casey, sammie, toast, alifaso
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