November 12, 2023 • 46 mins
- Guest: Ben Clark
- Inventor of the Malehanger
- Inspired by Boogie Nights’ story of John Holmes’ early porn career.
- Ben’s first foray into penis enlargement testing was on his own penis
- Used hands at first using “manual exercises”
- Talks about weight hanging
- Hanging weights off of his penis
- Started at 5” length, 5” erect girth (circumference, not diameter 📏)
- Now at 7” length, 6.5” erect girth
- Has been doing this off and on for 20 years
- Been selling these since 2012 and has sold over 70k units!
- Has a how-to guide on how to use the product so there are no injuries.
- Ben has to be kind of involved sometimes - people have questions about correct usage frequently and he’s seen a lot of dicks.
- Recounts special stories from customers
- Tosin talks about how practicing piano to become more talented stemmed from feeling inadequate (or having the potential to be inadequate physically)
- Stephanie found out her mom’s boobs were fake later in life
- Kacey loves her boobs now even though she used to worry about it
- Insecurities be like: feeling like you’re “Back of the Black man line” for being 7” and tp roll thick
- Kacey’s favorite orgasm was from a dude with a huge dick, but the orgasm happened with a vibrator and his fingers
- Ben can hang 40lbs off his dick! That’s like… a medium sized dog! Or a super fat cat!
- Ben’s socials:
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Well, well, well, go ahead and open up your ears,
your mind and whatever else youneed.
You're listening to Talk DirtyTo Me.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello all you sexy beasts and welcome back to Talk
Dirty To Me, the podcast whereyou know a handful of friends
with a handful of differentperspectives Talk Dirty To One
another about cat fetish and sex.
And today we have with youTosen Aufe.
So the boy myself, casey, yourneighborhood femdom, and we have
(00:45):
a fantastic guest for you today.
We have for you Ben Clark.
Ben Clark, say hello.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Hello everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
So Ben Clark and correct me if I say anything
that is incorrect is the creatorof the manhanger.
Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
It's a male hanger, but that's okay, I'm sorry, the
male hanger.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
So this is a device of your own creation.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yes indeed.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
So you thought of it, you designed it, you created it
and now you're selling it.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yep, I started selling male hanger back in 2012
.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Okay, and for our audience, can you tell us what
the male hanger does?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
So basically in a nutshell, male hanger is a penis
traction, penis enlargementdevice that works through a
pretty simple concept calledtissue traction, which is
basically, in a semi-therapeuticsense of the term, the concept
of stretching tissue, like skin,repeatedly over time until you
achieve tissue elongation orpermanent stretch.
(01:39):
So very similar to stretchingout or gauging, as they say in
the body piercing community, theearlobes.
Once you reach a certain pointof, they'll say no return, the
tissue will stay permanentlyelongated or stretch that way
and the only way to correct itis through cosmetic surgery.
So you can use that sameprinciple on the penis and
that's what male hanger doesstretching it repeatedly, a few
(02:00):
days a week over time, and youeventually achieve a longer and
thicker penis.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
So I have 1000 questions.
I do too.
The first one is, honestly,longer makes sense to me, right,
I get that.
I get how that could work.
Right, how are you pulling offthicker?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
That's a good question.
It's basically it's not reallyclearly defined how that happens
.
It's speculated that with thepenis the thickening happens as
a result of basically part ofthe elongation, and reinforcing
is not really the term I'mlooking for, but it's very
similar in concept.
Along with the elongation youalso get a growth laterally of
the tissues.
(02:37):
I guess.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I guess if we're dealing with a cylinder and you
stretch the cylinder out, it'sgot to compensate Right, so that
it's not a skinnier cylinder,and then it's able to pull that
off.
In general it's probably it's avery thin.
The margin of it being biggerthan it began with is pretty
easy to pull off.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Okay, okay, go ahead.
And what are your credentialslike?
Do you work in the medicalfield at all?
Like, how did you get to knowthis science?
Like where?
How do I ask this question?
Where were you in life when youwere like, huh, I wonder if I
stretch my penis like an earlobe, if it will stay?
And then you did research andfound it to be true.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
So great question.
I do not have a formal medicaleducation.
I'm not a physical therapist.
In fact, I've say this in someof my online content on my
YouTube channel as a sort ofdisclaimer.
I'm basically self taught backaround 1999.
I was serving my last year in afew months in the Marines out
in 29 Palms, california.
This is back in the day when wecould still go out to newbie
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rental stores video rentalstores like blockbuster and I
did so offline or off base.
One weekend cruising theirselections, I came across a
movie called Boogie Nights andit's basically a really loosely
retold version or spin on thestory of John Holmes porn career
in the early 80s and it startedMark Wahlberg and Bert Reynolds
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and basically after watchingthat movie it kind of touched on
a little bit of his porn career, his cocaine addiction, his
fall from basically being at theheight of as high as you could
be as a male porn star back then.
His cocaine addiction took himinto a life of crime eventually,
which kind of destroyed hisporn career and he got tied up
with a group called that becameknown as the Wonderland Gang and
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the Wonderland Gang murdersbecame a whole thing because he
got wrapped up in basically amurder situation with this gang.
He was later acquitted for itand, in a nutshell, I basically
became intrigued about thiswhole story.
So I got on what was the earlyinternet back then on?
I believe it was Lyco searchand I started looking up like
John Holmes murder trial,because I've always been
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interested in like true crimekind of stuff, what makes people
tick and do the things thatthey do, how they get wrapped in
stuff, wrapped up in stuff,that kind of stuff, and so some
of these early search resultseven though I was not looking
for like ways to make my penisbigger I'd never really thought
of my penis other than anextension of my body that I
urinated and had fun with Istill ended up being turned on
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to some search results that leantoward penis enlargement
because early marketers, evenback then online, were starting
to use things like John Holmespenis enlargement and connect
those two together.
So that's how I ended up on myfirst penis enlargement forum
and it was basically a smallcollection of men who were
claiming to use exercises likestretching with their hands,
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squeezing methods with theirhands and even using something
called weight hanging, which,again, I'd never heard of any of
this kind of stuff.
So I was like, what in theworld are these guys doing?
So I started out of curiosityand I basically hung out as a
lurker, as you'd say, for a fewmonths on this forum that I
found and then I started postingand asking questions because
I'm like, okay, these guys can'tall be crazy.
(05:48):
There's got to be something toit.
They're claiming this stuffworks.
So I tried some of the basicexercises they laid out examples
of on this forum first, andafter my first, I'd say, three
months, I'd gained my first halfinch and length and girth.
That seemed to be permanent.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I was, and I was hooked and it took off from
there for me.
Okay, hold on, I want to keepgoing.
I have 10,000 questions still.
So does Tosan, but I want tosay Wait, have a Stephanie,
stephanie.
Sorry, I'm so late, you'retotally fine, hello.
So just a quick recap for you.
Ben is the creator of the malehanger, which is a penis
enlargement device, and he wasjust telling us a little bit of
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the history.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Congratulations, I'm so excited to hear everything so
you started with like actualweights.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
I started by using my hands, at first, using some of
these what they call manualexercises.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Wait, so you would pull on your own penis, correct,
was it uncomfortable?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Not much pressure.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Would you apply and how long would you have to hold
it to have results?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Basically, the basic methodology, so to speak, with
your hands is to pull until youfeel a light stretch kind of a
sensation, and hold it for about30 seconds to a minute at a
time, ease off it, repeat andthen for up to 15 to 20 minute
sessions.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And so you had results with this simple action.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, within my first two, three months.
And then I learned about weighthanging and kind of got into
that a little bit very slowly.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And that was actually hanging weights off of your
penis.
Correct, okay, real talk.
Do you have the world's largestcock now?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
No, I do not, but I've gone from an erect length
of I started out with six inchesand now actually yeah, I'm
confusing myself here a secondSorry, it's a happy dad talking
I started out with an erectlength of five inches and I was
five inches around, measured atthe tape measure, what they call
girth.
I'm currently a bit over seveninches long and six and a half
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inches in the right.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Holy shit, if you stopped doing exercises, would
it go back?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
No, as I was kind of alluding to earlier, Casey, once
you reach a point of no returnwith tissue stretching, kind of
like gauging out your lobes, thetissue stays that way.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
And is it so and everything functions as it would
otherwise, like you didn't get.
You don't get like less hard.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Oh no, I'm in my early 40s now.
I started when I was in myearly 20s and everything works
like it did back in my 20s.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Oh my God, so you've been doing this for 20 years,
often on yes, I do.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Now I restarted about two years ago because I
basically got to a point where Icould do my business full time
about two years ago and so, as aguy who believes in testing
what I sell, using what I doing,what I teach, I felt like it
made sense to get back into it.
It really helps me, as ateacher coaching guys who I sell
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my product to to be moreknowledgeable in what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, I mean it's also.
It's also good to be like look,here's my dick two years ago,
here's my dick now with thisdevice.
Correct.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
You too can have a longer dick.
Can you, for our audience,describe what it looks like?
Oh, he's holding it up rightnow.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, this is my product, male hanger, and it's
basically what you might say isa clam shell kind of device.
It goes around.
You adjust it with this wingnut here.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It goes around the shaft of the penis, correct and
tightened and loosened with awing nut, and so is the is the
clamp itself.
It's like a donut people, sothat there's like space for your
shaft.
Is the device itself weighted,or do you add weights to that?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
No, there's a hook on the end here via a strap and if
you go to my site at malehangercom you can get a visual.
I don't know if this video willhave you know, actual video or
podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
We'll put it in the car.
We'll leave it in the shownotes.
Everybody check out the link inthe show notes.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
And then you connect a weight by the hook there.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Okay, and that's like a sand bag.
I'm sorry, not a full size sandbag, but a tiny sand bag.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Now this is just a weight strap and then an actual
weight player.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Oh, we had at the bottom.
I'm sorry, your video ispropped such that we can't.
I don't think we can see thewhole screen.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
That's okay, I can move it around.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Here we go, I see, I see.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Now do you need to be like?
Still, while this is happening,can you like go about your day
with weights hanging from yourdick?
Speaker 3 (10:03):
No, you should have a place that you dedicate to
using the product.
It's not something you can wearunder clothing, but it doesn't
take much time.
Per day Total of 45 minutes toan hour, which most guys, if
they truly are interested inthis kind of like, getting in
better shape.
Elsewise, you'll make time forit.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Do people kids?
Can you do it sitting at a desk, like while you're working?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah, you can do it sitting, but you can do it
sitting.
You can do it sitting, you cando it sitting.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
You can do it sitting and have you had people come to
you with very, very tinypenises?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I've.
You know I've sold this since2012, casey.
So if I had to guess out of the70,000 units or so that I've
sold in that time, sure there'ssizes from across the spectrum.
So I mean, I do say that youshould have a minimum size of
between four and five incheserect to use male hanger
effectively.
If you're starting out smallerthan that, then I usually tell a
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guy okay, you should start offwith maybe some manual
stretching with your hands, gaina little bit of size first, and
then you can use my product.
I'm pretty open and honest aboutthat kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
So yeah, yeah, Do you think it would be better?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
So I, imagine there's like a like a cap on it.
Like even with tissuestretching, even with like a low
stretching with ears I've heardthat like at some point in time
you can't keep stretching it.
Like people can get pretty bigbut it depends on like how your
cartilage is set up is.
Do you know what that cap isfor for peens?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I don't know for sure if there is a cap.
I've gained a bit, basicallytwo and a half inches ish myself
and length and about an inchand a half and girth, and I've
had customers claim up to threeinches.
I honestly feel like after awhile you basically I mean this
does take effort and consistency, kind of like joining a gym and
consistently getting there andworking out on enough of a basis
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to get the results you want.
So an inch takes enough effort.
I feel like most guys kind offall off after that and it's
kind of the minority who keepgoing.
Plus there's a practicalitysake.
I mean if you're sexuallyactive your partner can usually
take only so much anyway.
So it's kind of a point ofdiminishing returns after, say,
two inches, especially if you'restarting out with five and go
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to seven or six or seven and goto eight or nine.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Oh my God, I don't think that is a necessary size
audience.
It's too much penis.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I mean when it comes to.
I've heard I'm heterosexualmyself, but I know some gay men.
They can take it all more thebetter.
Some women, most of the womenI've been with in my life,
including my wife, they don'tlike the feel of, you know, the
cervix being slammed against youtoo much, but yeah, it's a
girth problem for butt stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I mean, I've taken.
I've taken decently longpenises.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I think that's just like the overall thing of any
kink is there's a spectrum foreverything.
So there's going to be likethere are women's anuses or
anuses that are so much furtherthan their clitoris is than
another female where, liketheirs is right there, they're
right next to each other.
So the like they're reallylucky they have a chance of
having like a prostate andvaginal orgasm a lot easier than
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another woman, and so allbodies are different.
I think that's a reallyimportant thing to say here is
that girth is it might be thething for you, it is not the
thing for everybody.
So you know, because there aresome, just like you said, your
wife, I like him right therewith her, like I don't want to
feel like something is piercingmy insides that feels Intrusive
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to me, and that's probablypurity, culture and my religion,
because it always is.
But I feel like not everybodyneeds, you know, a giant penis.
Those are.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
People all along the spectrum like I.
You know, I have a partner thatwas as a self-proclaimed size
queen, you know, and like we'retalking 10s to 12s and Like
that's the jam, like you know.
I know plenty people with likenine inch minimum.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
I'm not laughing, I'm like in awe, I'm in awe of that
I have.
I have a friend who, truly,that's what she says to me Like
her thing is cute, like sheloves it huge, that is like she
needs it all up in there.
I just mean that not everyhuman body is the same, so, like
you know, always have to changeyourself.
There's somebody out therethat's gonna love your little
penis.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yep, some people want you to, want you to beat it up
and some people don't.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, are there any negative side effects?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Not that I've seen.
I mean, you can misuse theproduct and cause yourself to
have a bruise, but that'susually about the worst.
But I've got a how-to guidethat every one of my customers
gets access to.
I literally put it on a QR codesticker On the product which
takes you to the how-to guide,and so that's got step-by-step
instructions, step-by-steppictures, videos how to
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correctly use the product.
So you really have to go out ofyour way to misuse it.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Okay, how many people's people have you seen?
Probably more than I can count.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Honestly, I talk it up to being kind of like across
between a personal trainer and aurologist, but I don't have to
see my patients in person.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Wait, so you is part of the process of having this
looking at people using it, yeah, I have to help.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
A lot of guys make sure that they're they're
putting it on correctly orthey're adjusting something
correctly, or I get a lot ofquestions about like is it?
Does this look right?
Am I wearing it correctly?
Is it upside?
You know I've seen people puton upside down, sideways,
sometimes both backwards, likeno, that you obviously have not
looked at my guide.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Take a step back.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
The QR code is right.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
So people.
So people have direct access toyou.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yes, I make myself very Easy to get a hold of.
I've got an email on my website.
I've got a phone number on mywebsite, both of which I answer
myself.
I've got a mail hangar forum.
I've got a reddit group and adiscord.
I want to be there on purpose.
I enjoy what I do and I I wantpeople to be able to use my
product correctly.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
What's, what's the most special story to you that
you've heard from use of yourproduct?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Let's see.
I've heard everything from heyBen.
I've been able to.
I've had guys who take, say,high amounts of Viagra up to a
hundred milligrams a day whohave been able to reduce the
amount they take because ofimproved blood flow from using
my product.
I've heard of hey.
You know I gained a coupleinches Anecdotally you know it's
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their words from using mailhanger and I was finally able to
have the courage to ask thatspecial someone out.
Or I finally had the courage toask for that promotion at work.
I mean, again, I've been doingthis since 2012.
I've sold this product aroundthe world to people from all
walks of life that you can thinkof all sexual interests and
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Patients.
I've even had a couple of transwomen who wanted to add some
size before they got what theycall bottom surgery done To have
more tissue to work with.
So I mean, really I've workedwith just about anybody, and
everybody Actually was about.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
When you say that some men went from using 100
milligrams of Viagra a day.
I don't know how Viagra works,so is that just a pill that you
take every single day so thatwhen you do want to have sex
it's working, or do you takethat when you want to have sex?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
It can be both stuffy , basically Viagra and See Alice
.
They're very similar and theyare both what they call best
siloed dilators.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I believe is the correct term.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
So basically, yeah, yeah relaxes blood vessels in
the penis, helps blood flow moreeasily, and so it makes getting
an erection through men's andphysical stimulation easier.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
So you can take it and not necessarily have an
erection.
You're just saying like, hey,I'm taking this as a precaution
today, because later thisevening I might meet a lovely
lady and I'll be ready to get itup.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Yes, you can do that.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Okay, I'm just trying to understand the hundred
milligrams a day.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Because you're the business in your penis get
filled with blood pumpingthrough it.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
No, no, certainly I understand what the drug does.
I'm just saying they needed to.
They need to get hard every dayLike they.
That was what they were goingfor, or is it something that you
like stack up in the body sothat it works when you're ready
to Use it?
I'm just genuinely asking cuz?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I don't Like how big that's.
Yeah, vein can relaxes, so ahundred milligrams will let a
lot more blood in than 20milligrams.
So the more struggle that youhave, the more relaxation.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Okay, so you don't take a viagra and get hard.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
You do.
I thought that you took it.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Cialis is the extended release one which is
like we'll, we're gonna react toyour body, like if you become
aroused and that normal processbegins.
Then Cialis is set up to helpyou out there.
Viagra kind of like is a morelike I'm gonna have sex in an
hour or 30 minutes and that's so.
It's a little right.
It's the cocaine erectionViagra has an agent that
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actually increases your bloodpressure a little bit so that
you're like actual blood Flow ismore and Cialis is more just
about the massive violation.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I see, okay, right so sorry, I just didn't like
chosen's alluding to Viagra ismore of an immediate within an
hour and gives you a four-hourwindow drug.
And then Cialis is somethingyou can take and it usually
lasts up to.
It's basically called theweekend pill.
You can get up to two daysworth of a window, so to speak,
where you can get erections moreeasily or on demand.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Who was taking a hundred milligrams of Viagra a
day is like so grateful to youif he had to cut back that.
That Milligram of anymedication a day, yeah, is
amazing because, again, you weresaying that Cialis is the other
one, that is a time release orwhatever, but this person is
taking Viagra to get hard whenthey wanted to get hard every
day.
So they found a new alternative.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
That's not medical and that's right and that is a
high dose.
Usually if you're taking thatmuch Viagra, you're not
responding to lower doses forwhatever the reason, whether
it's some sort of a medicalcomplication, something
health-wise, some sort of aphysical injury you've had and
lower doses just aren't workingfor you.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
How do you feel about the stereotype of men needing
to have large penises?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
It's kind of like I don't know if it's a haven't
really encountered a stereotypeof Men across the board needing
to have large penises, but theredoes seem to be a stereotype
with certain ethnicities havingcertain sizes or being expected
to be larger, likeAfrican-American dissented men
it tends to be, for whatever thereason that oh he's, he looks
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like he's got a big dick.
Because he's tall, or he's ofAfrican-American descent, he
must have a big dick, or he'sAsian, he must have a small one.
I don't know where thesestereotypes tend to come from,
but it more tends to lean toward, from what I've heard and seen
anyway toward body sizes, heightor Ethnicity.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
For whatever the reason maybe stereotype was a
wrong word the belief, thebelief that men have to have
large penises, cuz like one ofthe examples you gave, a story
with somebody saying, oh, I havea bigger penis.
Now I can finally ask for thatpromotion, which it's.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Yeah, same, and not because I'm like judging,
because like I am in a femalebody and I Think the world
always makes us think we're insuch different categories female
and men and like the fact thatlike that Ways on anyone's heart
is quite relatable to women.
We just don't ever tend to talkabout that, like that's just so
fascinating that you would feelless than.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I think it relates to body image and perception and
that ties into self-confidence,for a lot of people says a woman
may be more confident after shehas, say, breast enhancement
done.
It could relate very similarlyfor a man who's, for different
reasons, somewhatpsychologically Self-confidence
reasons, for whatever the forwhatever the reason he doesn't
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feel good about how his penislooks in relation to the rest of
his body and now he adds aninch or two to it.
I think it's a very similarkind of thing.
I remember.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I remember when I was growing up you know, being a
black dude and watching porn andDeciding that that was like the
size I was supposed to be.
Plus, you know, if this isobviously very quickly in your
black adult male life, you hearthe stereotype and then me
considering me, thinking that Ididn't have a big enough penis,
like.
What ends up happening in yourbrain.
Is any step I take towardssuccess or more Notoriety or
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anything could lead to asituation where, like, someone
will see my penis and if it'sinadequate, then who am I?
And so you'll, like, you'll,sabotage yourself, you'll do all
kinds of wild things likeeventually.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I mean, that is just like your penis has to be like
an Appropriate ratio to yoursuccess in life.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Yeah, that is so fast , so it's just out in it.
In it I am too.
I am having a mental breakdown,on top of the fact that a lot
of why is this not talked about?
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Because of the way that they're emotionally trained
, usually the main outlet withwhich they are able to have any
other emotion like at all isusually what the having sex are
intimately.
So if the only place where youget to feel soft or care or have
any emotion other than makemoney or be strong is having sex
and then you end you don't havea big penis, which everybody
(23:05):
says you have to have so thatpeople will engage with you in
any other connective way, itjust shatters you and so it's
like you can't do.
You feel stuck in this.
Like you know, I've said it ona podcast a lot that, like boys
are raised to only have twoemotions and that's angry and
horny, right, all bad things areangry, all good things are
horny.
And so if that's all you gotand then you don't have, and the
(23:26):
one tool that you have to have,have to have to participate in
feeling any good feeling insocieties exceptively, is
inadequate and it kind of tanksyour whole self-worth and you
can't talk about it, right, youcan't be like I'm sad because I
have a small penis.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Because, right, oh, my God, I feel like Rudolph the
Red-Nosed Render is about a deerwith a small penis and it's
just been coaxed gently andnicely for all ages to listen to
, because it sounds like this ismore for your validation with
men than women, because nobody'sasking women what they want,
because women not all women wanta big dick, like to me, there
(24:04):
is something so interesting and,again, not judgmental, just
like you said.
I mean, I've had plasticsurgery not for my boobs but for
my nose.
Like I, if there's somethingyou want to do to make yourself
feel better, for sure.
But at the end of the day, Ithink I'm just fascinated by
where it comes from, like wherethat desire is, because, again,
I've read articles on women withlike endometriosis and like
(24:26):
severe scar tissueing inside.
All sex is painful for them, solike a small penis actually is
like the bomb for them.
So somebody out there who mightfeel like their small penis is
unworthy it hasn't meant the hotdemerit of the moral of this
story.
Because, again, if you want to,I totally under, like it's
(24:46):
making me understand why thatwould be in need, but also like
don't feel shame.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
And you're more than your penis anyway.
And also there's lots of sexthat you can have that don't
involve your penis at all.
That is just as fun andglorious and in good time.
And if you take the time tolike, step away, like, if you
come to the realization that youdon't have to wrap all of your
emotional connection inpenetration, that everything
(25:13):
that you actually are lookingfor from why you become so
interested in sex and like, whyyou do it because of the way
you've been emotionallysocialized.
That's why, like, asmrstreamers do so well.
That's why, like, there's anentire porn sections that are
just women staring into thecamera being like you're great
and I want you and it's like.
(25:33):
That's because that's whatyou're looking for, more than
just like warm locations.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
I think a lot of it as well.
You could say, so to speak.
To blame for this, these kindof things, is that you know
there does tend to be in musicand in Hollywood oftentimes and
in porn there is a what somewould call a pandemic of porn
addiction for young men thesedays.
The more porn you watch, themore warped your perception of
(26:00):
things like penis size and whatyou need to have or what people
expect you to have can be that Ialready say warped, but
basically you know you've gotthese things to factor in on
this whole thing, this wholesituation.
Why these days, especially backwhen I started the stuff in
1999, I mean, like I was sayingbefore you came on the line,
steffi, to Casey and Tosen hereI'd never given my penis a
(26:22):
second thought before I stumbledinto the online world of penis
enlargement out of curiosity.
It was just something is a partof my body I literally urinated
with and had fun with, and thatwas it.
I never considered the size ofit.
Was it good enough?
Was it big enough?
Did it look normal?
Did it function like it wassupposed to?
I never had any of thesethoughts about my penis before I
found penis enlargement andthen all of a sudden I kind of
(26:42):
go down this rabbit hole.
Over the years and now I candefinitely relate to guys these
days who fast forward 20 yearsand it seems like I forget what
the percentages are, but it'spretty high.
You've got more and more youngmen who have a porn problem.
They don't socialize like theyused to, we're obsessed with
screens and not really even ondates.
I mean, you look around in arestaurant.
(27:03):
My wife and I will go out todinner.
We put our phones away, butanybody under 30 is usually if,
even if they're on a date with aperson they're supposed to be
talking to, they might besending things back and forth to
themselves on their phones,sitting right across from each
other, but they're not engagingdirectly.
So it's like you've got allthese things these days that are
contributing most likely topenis size related insecurities,
(27:23):
and so while it's I hate tosound selfish in a good way for
me, it's great for business, butat the same time it's, you know
, it's kind of a problem becauseso many have insecurity issues
about their penises.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Yeah, but I think the way that you are kind of
bringing it to light is that ithas longevity potential to.
So maybe just self confidencein one Like I'm.
Again, I'm not shaming anyonewho wants to have their penis
enlarged.
I'm saying as a female, not ofthat world of men who talk about
that.
I didn't know that this is likea that men feel insecure about
(28:00):
that.
That's so fast, it'sfascinating.
I mean, of course men can getinsecure about things.
I don't not know that.
It's just that's.
It was just a fascinating thingto learn as a female.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Well, that's why guys drive big trucks.
You know they have a smallpenis.
It's another stereotype, right?
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Is that true?
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
The.
The joke is that you'recompensating for it, right, so
you're trying your best, rightto.
I was like I mean, a goodreason of that I am the piano
player than I am now is becauseI I'm trying.
I was trying to build stockagainst the inevitable
disappointment that someone wasgoing to have, so that, like, by
the time they got to the pointwhere I was naked in front of
(28:44):
them, they were like, well, he'sreally talented, he's really
funny and there's all theseother things.
So if he's the few inches shortof what I need, that's fine,
I'll deal with it.
Especially in my, like, highschool years, there was a lot of
my motivation for becoming moreand more talented.
I mean, I also loved it too.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
I think I can relate to that, ok, and maybe maybe not
.
Like call me out, but I had noboobs.
Like we're talking concave,like my boobs went the other way
, like there was not a sportsbra, there was not anything that
I ever needed.
And you get to a certain agewhere I'm super confident with
my small, small breasts.
Now I genuinely would not wantto a boob job, but I really was.
(29:20):
Like I had heard one time thata girl's boobs came in when she
was 18 and another one she was19.
So every year I was like thisis my year.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
My boobs are going to come.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Like I'm going to be a woman.
My mom had boobs.
My mom was this tall, beautiful, stunning woman with boobs and
I was like my boobs never cameand I mean, I think it even gave
me like a like a notintelligent complex of like.
I never felt like womanlywithout my boobs for a long,
long time.
And then I found out in my like20s that my mom had a boob job.
You know, you find out laterthat, like, my mom didn't have
(29:53):
boobs either.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Your mom's boobs are fake and she never told you Not
tall as like 20.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
And I was like no, because this is, this is
Christian Southern, the Southwhere we're like we don't talk
about it at the time she wasalso like gung-ho when I wanted
a nose job because she was likeyou do you do what you need to
do?
But again, these, these allcome from places of like what we
think we're supposed to looklike and have, and just it's
just fascinating and I think italso there's a huge divide right
(30:19):
now between like men and women.
Sometimes it feels like andearly, we all kind of have
similar Shitty things to dealwith.
I mean definitely.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I wish there was a woman version of the male hanger
, because I remember when I wasyounger and also had complex Not
complex, but like was worriedabout the size of my breasts.
Now I also have small breastsand I think they're fan fucking
tastic.
So, I remember we like I sawcommercials for like blue song,
which was this cream leave you,bro, on your breasts and it
makes them bigger.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Yes, and at the time I remember that.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I mean, obviously, that I should get that, and
maybe my mom joked about gettingit for me, and now I'm like
there's no cream, this is gonnamake your boobs bigger.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
My friend found these pills in my glove compartment
and, instead of telling her thatit was to grow my breasts from
this impo martial, I was tooembarrassed so I said they were
diet pills.
And I came home that night to aIntervention from my family
because my friend had called totell them addicted to diet pills
(31:20):
and Because I didn't tell myparents or anybody that I
thought these things like so nowyou had to tell everybody
they're like you're not dietpills.
They're for my boobs, mom.
It's dumber than diet pills.
Diet pills have stuff in themthat actually work.
This is probably just dirt fromthe ground.
So I'm taking from my boobs togrow, because they did not grow
(31:43):
of it.
Did you tell everybody?
Of course we had more might.
Yes, because my parents werelike we are really.
That was a fast intervention.
Why?
Okay, well, this is the baptistchristian world.
Okay, she thought, saw this assatan and she was gonna say me
they move, they move quick withtheir exorcism, exorcism, but
just the fact that I am ateenager probably 15 at home
(32:04):
watching tv going my boobsaren't big enough, but this pill
says it'll grow it this manysizes that pill and that cream.
They probably made so muchmoney.
Oh yeah, and I get it.
Yeah, that's what we thought wewere supposed to have.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I I definitely got got by.
What is that porn star's name?
Who's like a bigger, I think atime, and Ron.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Jeremy.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, ron Jeremy, I definitely got by his penis
enlargement like infomercialsthat were going on the middle of
the night.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
He had some.
What did he say?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Oh yeah, Just like an infomercial came on at 1 am,
you know, after I was donewatching hbo.
Real sex was like Ron Jeremy's.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Taxi cab confession.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Yeah, they all of those skin and max red shoe
diaries on the lifetime channel,by the way, which was just
playing, you know, christianmovies right before they got to
keep the bills as as they set itup so diabolically to happen,
so funny.
But no, yeah, I was like youknow, when I got him on, one of
my first jobs Is to get like oneof those things because, like
it, like I said, I tried, Itried so many things.
(33:05):
I was like I did, I did penisstretching, where I was probably
doing wrong and I wasn't doingit consistently.
I was just kind of like sad andthen I was like this is gonna
fix it.
You know, that's it pills.
He doesn't cry, come on and soyou know you it's, it's a silly
time and you know like anotherthing is like.
(33:25):
It's just that it.
It would be so much better ifpeople talk about things like I
did not know that there was ashow where grower thing for a
long time like so.
I'm definitely like a turtle.
So if I'm, if I'm not erect,I'm pretty much like I have very
.
I have fairly large testicles.
So if I'm not erect, like mywhole penis is pretty much like
wrapped up in my balls.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
But you know, I I'm fine like I'm, I'm, I'm like in
the it was with a show or not agrower one time, and I'm telling
you, when his pants were downand he was not erect it was.
It was a Mushroom, but like thesize of a mushroom little.
When he was erect it was we'retalking eight girthy, horrifying
(34:04):
inches.
And bless him and who he wenton to be with because I'm sure
her cervix can handle that.
But that was like Sciencefiction to me.
When I watched it transform andthat was the first time I mean,
like they don't just tellpeople out there that it's like
that my 31 year old friendrecently reached out and said I
need to tell you something.
I'm watching this show on HBO.
(34:25):
Did you know that men who areuncircumstised when their penis
gets hard you can't even tellthey're uncircumstised?
And I was like, yes, but it?
But it is crazy to me but alsonot crazy to me that 30 year old
women don't understand thatpenis is all work, the thing
like circumcised or not, likewhen they're hard it's a penis
but, we have ideas of like oh,it's uncircumstised.
(34:45):
That's crazy.
You know, in sex in the citythey're like he has a sharpache,
he carries a little housearound for his penis and it's so
aggressive towards men who areUncircumstised.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah, it's so wild, like the things that like People
don't talk about that, likeeverybody experiences, and
because you don't talk about it,you don't know that it's like a
common thing that occurs that'sright had like I'm Slightly
over seven inches and abouttoilet paper roll like toilet
paper hold a roll thick which isabove average and I swear for
like up until I was like 22.
(35:17):
I was like oh, you know, I'm atthe back of the black man line
and Fine, the actual I.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
My brain is like shutting down.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Why did you think you were on the small end?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I'm a big guy.
So like my, because I'm abigger guy, I don't see my penis
past my stomach.
So my perception of like howlong my penis is is like
non-existent, because if I lookdown I don't really see it.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
I also, I also have never gotten a mirror and
examine yourself down there.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Oh, I mean like I found out, because I got like
that's what women.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
That's what women ask each other.
You've never looked at yourvagina with a mirror.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yeah, I mean, like I've seen it in videos and stuff
now, like now I'm like I've caninteract with it more from a
third party perspective.
And you know, like when I wasmeasuring it, like I was
measuring it flaccid and that'swhere I was like getting my inch
judgment from and beingsomebody who like completely
shrinks, it's like one point youwere hurting your own feeling
exactly and so and then it was,like you know, I fortunately got
(36:13):
with a partner who you knowthey were like I had.
I had imagined that likepartners I had been with up
until that point were just beingnice on, like like being sore
and things like that, and I waslike whatever.
And then like somebodyliterally was just like hold on
and like got out of like clothmeasuring tape and I was like
you were this thick around andthis long, which is here's the
here's the national average ofpenis size.
(36:35):
You are above average.
Relax.
I was like you're a toiletpaper roll size.
Nobody's that size.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Yeah, nobody's out there going.
What does the average clitorisenjoy?
Speaker 1 (36:45):
right and they should .
Speaker 2 (36:47):
I don't even thinking about the clitoris.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Westernized culture taboos.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
Yeah, yeah, but we're getting better right huge penis
for what?
Speaker 2 (36:57):
For what?
For what Like?
How is your huge penis going tosatisfy me more when your small
penis already doesn't satisfyme, where you think the
satisfaction comes in the sizeof your penis, like if it's
bigger.
I'll just all of a sudden havewaves of ecstasy when you get
closer to me, like I'll besucked into the Gravitational
(37:17):
pull of your penis and just beoverwhelmingly I'm gonna start
coming.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
This is why Casey is a goddess Does there are lines
that will be.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Does it matter what side to your penis is?
This will?
Speaker 4 (37:28):
be kink canon one day .
I believe it.
That line will be kink canon.
I will be not thought of, Iwill be an afterthought, but
Casey will have thoughts thatwill haunt you in your dreams so
that you change for the better.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Yeah, For everybody that thinks they need a large
penis to satisfy women.
You can have a big penis andwomen can be wildly unsatisfied.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Listen.
One benefit to mymisunderstanding of my own penis
size was I became a deepstudent of clitoral stimulation
because I was like well, theonly way I'm ever going to be
able to stay in the game is Iwill have to be the best at
cunnilingus.
So I don't know, I haven't donethe necessary legwork to find
out how I'm the best, but nocomplaints thus far.
(38:10):
The you don't take surveys.
I do take surveys, but that'sanecdotal and autistic.
But because I will literally,especially with new partners, I
will be like a few days after,because I feel like like I
personally have the inclinationto like, come up, wipe my face
off and be like can you give mea report card rating on anything
that I've done and how youwould like me to change and any
adjustments you would like me tomake?
(38:30):
I noticed that minute mark 448,that you are pushing my head
down to the side and I don'tknow if that meant you wanted in
more pressure or that youwanted me to move lower down
laterally on your clitoris.
So if you can clarify that forme so I can add it to the
spreadsheet so that I canperform better for you next time
, that's not hot.
I don't do that right after.
Thank you, science.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
I weighed a couple of things.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
He weighs a day, and then I was like, hey, is there
any you know calibrations oradjustments you'd like me to
make?
And there were a couple ofsignals that I didn't understand
and wanted to ask you.
Let me know and thencontinually do it, but yeah, so
you must have pretty good Yelpreviews.
I do have references.
I do have a few people that Ican send people to and be like.
Can you give a user ratingreview?
Speaker 2 (39:12):
I will say, before we say in subjects, change
subjects really quick that oneof my top favorite oriasms that
I think about when I think aboutfavorite orgasms was given to
me by a gentleman who had a verylarge penis One of my favorite
large penises, in fact but I wasgiven that orgasm using a
vibrator and his fingers.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
So that's a t-shirt that's like knowledge, that is
again canon, like that's poetry,sheer poetry, sheer poetry.
Because it's not, it's nobody'sgetting cut down here.
It's literally saying no, it isnot about your penis all the
time.
Sometimes it is very much aboutyour penis, but you should love
your penis as long as it worksthe way you want it to work.
(39:52):
If it doesn't, work, then fuckthat penis.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, no, I immediately
regret it, that phrasing.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
Just mean Then, like I understand, like, oh, I would
like my penis to get hard.
Sure, whatever you need to dofor that.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Well, ben, I'm glad you sell the age old problem
yeah it's.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
actually there aren't many.
When it comes to stuff likethis, like wanting longer hair
or bigger boobs or a biggerpenis or to get rid of age spots
or whatever, there actuallyaren't a lot of solutions at
work, so I'm delighted thatthere's a product out there that
actually works.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
And that you don't have to ingest in your body.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yeah, and you added length to your own penis and it
can say no, this is functional,it works.
Yeah, if you do want a largerpenis, this is a fabulous
solution.
And do people like, do peoplebrag about how much weight they
hang off it?
You know, like guys at the gymthey're like yeah, I squat 250
or however much a lot is or guysuse the male hang and they're
like, yeah, I hang, I hang fivepounds you know whatever Not
(40:58):
typically.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
You guys sound much more of all.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
I've been wanting to say.
I'm also one of the few outthere selling a product like
mine.
That is actually not only myown.
You know, one of my own bestcustomers actually document the
results.
I continue to get on inmeasured videos as I progress.
So I feel like that's veryimportant.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
How much weight yeah, how much weight do men hang off
the male hanger Like?
What's the maximum amount?
Speaker 3 (41:22):
There's not a set maximum amount you're chasing.
I always suggest you start withone to two pounds at most in
the very beginning and veryslowly progress, and I teach in
my guide that everybody getsaccess to how to make that
progress in a smart way, safely.
Based on my experiences withmyself and coaching others over
the years, I can personally hangup to 40 pounds, but holy shit.
(41:45):
Damn, I didn't get thereovernight 40 pounds.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
I don't even bicep curl 40 pounds on one side.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Yeah, that's an Olympian and your penis.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
So what you're saying is your penis can be me in an
arm wrestle competition.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Possibly.
It's an Olympic Olympic penis.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
And coming to the stage three time gold medalist
Ben Clark in the penis curls.
We've seen quite a performancefrom this year and we're looking
to see something greater.
I can't believe it.
He's picking up the 50 poundkettlebell.
Can he do it?
Now?
Where's Doug?
Come on in?
This is silly.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
That's hilarious, the equivalent thing.
There's an equivalent thing forwomen and it's about pelvic
floor and your muscles and it'slike.
It's like putting a yoni egginside with I forget what I used
, but you can like put a pieceof string through the yoni egg
and like hang weights off it andthen do kegels, basically so
(42:39):
your weight lifting with yourpelvis floor.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
I've seen that.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
You know, it makes you tighter and stronger and
helps you with incontinence andstuff like that.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
I've seen that yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
You can also get stuck inside you.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
I'm going to try it with 40 pounds now, though no.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Casey Do it.
Casey, do it.
No, casey tries it, I'm goingto do it.
Casey tries it.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
That would be the appropriate Casey tries it for
this episode Toast and you'llhave to do the toast and try it.
I mean sure We'll have to getyou a nail hanger.
I'll give it a shot.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Like I'll put it on, I'm not particularly, I don't
necessarily well, there arepositional advantages to a
larger penis, like there are sexpositions that I need about
three and a half more inches forto pull off, and I guess that
experience would be nice.
But you know I'll put it onLike I want to.
I do want to see, like, how itworks and how that goes.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
So you're saying that you would like to get to 10
inches?
Speaker 1 (43:27):
I think the thing I'm actually looking for is like a
comfortable penis extender,because I had looked into that
for a long time.
For a little bit, when I washaving like after the vasectomy,
I was having some likemaintaining erection issues for
a little bit, and so I was likelooking for penis extenders.
That was like, oh okay, well,this fixes the positional
problem, but I don't want tolike permanently have Like.
(43:48):
I only want to have 10 inchpenises so that I can do certain
like on the side positions,because I got to clear my belly
to do some of those and I waslike that's the only reason I
would want it.
So it would be temporary,because I don't know that.
I don't know that I have anybodyaround that's like wants to
take 10 inches of dick.
I guess there's probably somedudes I can find, but yeah, yeah
, for sure People out therehonestly it's.
(44:09):
it's surprising to me that, likehow I've I've surprised myself
with how much like dick youcould put, put in, put in the
butt, and how quickly you getused to the sizes.
Like I look at, like the dildosthat I have for my own, like
but play on my own, and theyjust keep progressively getting
larger and you just like, yeah,you can well.
No, I'm used to that, I'm usedto that thick eight incher.
It's time to move on up.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Oh my God, oh my God, ben, is there anything else
that you want to share withpeople about the male hanger
that you didn't get a chance tosay, since we're coming up on an
hour now?
Speaker 3 (44:39):
I think anything that can't be shown or answered or
covered on my website.
Honestly, I think we've coveredit.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
And your male, your male hanger, your what's your
website?
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Malehangercom, male like, and you have a YouTube
channel.
I do.
It's male like the genderhanger, like what you hang
clothes on, all one wordcom.
And yes, I'm on YouTube as welland I've got my website and all
the appropriate links and allthat you can.
There's even an introductionvideo about the product basic
use information on my site onthe main page.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Fantastic.
Yeah, everybody check it out.
All this information will be inthe show notes as well.
Ben, thank you so much forchatting with us today.
Thank you, you've been fuckingfantastic and I appreciate your
time.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Totally.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Thank you for having me, Of course, and until next
time I'll use sexy beast.
Let's all.
Let's all lift 40 pounds withour tenitals.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Okay, let's do that.
Get right on that.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Bye, all right, bye.
Bye sexy babies.
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello all you sexy beasts and welcome back to Talk
Dirty To Me, the podcast whereyou know a handful of friends
with a handful of differentperspectives Talk Dirty To One
another about cat fetish and sex.
And today we have with youTosen Aufe.
So the boy myself, casey, yourneighborhood femdom, and we have
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a fantastic guest for you today.
We have for you Ben Clark.
Ben Clark, say hello.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Hello everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
So Ben Clark and correct me if I say anything
that is incorrect is the creatorof the manhanger.
Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
It's a male hanger, but that's okay, I'm sorry, the
male hanger.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
So this is a device of your own creation.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yes indeed.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
So you thought of it, you designed it, you created it
and now you're selling it.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yep, I started selling male hanger back in 2012
.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Okay, and for our audience, can you tell us what
the male hanger does?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
So basically in a nutshell, male hanger is a penis
traction, penis enlargementdevice that works through a
pretty simple concept calledtissue traction, which is
basically, in a semi-therapeuticsense of the term, the concept
of stretching tissue, like skin,repeatedly over time until you
achieve tissue elongation orpermanent stretch.
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So very similar to stretchingout or gauging, as they say in
the body piercing community, theearlobes.
Once you reach a certain pointof, they'll say no return, the
tissue will stay permanentlyelongated or stretch that way
and the only way to correct itis through cosmetic surgery.
So you can use that sameprinciple on the penis and
that's what male hanger doesstretching it repeatedly, a few
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days a week over time, and youeventually achieve a longer and
thicker penis.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
So I have 1000 questions.
I do too.
The first one is, honestly,longer makes sense to me, right,
I get that.
I get how that could work.
Right, how are you pulling offthicker?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
That's a good question.
It's basically it's not reallyclearly defined how that happens
.
It's speculated that with thepenis the thickening happens as
a result of basically part ofthe elongation, and reinforcing
is not really the term I'mlooking for, but it's very
similar in concept.
Along with the elongation youalso get a growth laterally of
the tissues.
(02:37):
I guess.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I guess if we're dealing with a cylinder and you
stretch the cylinder out, it'sgot to compensate Right, so that
it's not a skinnier cylinder,and then it's able to pull that
off.
In general it's probably it's avery thin.
The margin of it being biggerthan it began with is pretty
easy to pull off.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Okay, okay, go ahead.
And what are your credentialslike?
Do you work in the medicalfield at all?
Like, how did you get to knowthis science?
Like where?
How do I ask this question?
Where were you in life when youwere like, huh, I wonder if I
stretch my penis like an earlobe, if it will stay?
And then you did research andfound it to be true.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
So great question.
I do not have a formal medicaleducation.
I'm not a physical therapist.
In fact, I've say this in someof my online content on my
YouTube channel as a sort ofdisclaimer.
I'm basically self taught backaround 1999.
I was serving my last year in afew months in the Marines out
in 29 Palms, california.
This is back in the day when wecould still go out to newbie
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rental stores video rentalstores like blockbuster and I
did so offline or off base.
One weekend cruising theirselections, I came across a
movie called Boogie Nights andit's basically a really loosely
retold version or spin on thestory of John Holmes porn career
in the early 80s and it startedMark Wahlberg and Bert Reynolds
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and basically after watchingthat movie it kind of touched on
a little bit of his porn career, his cocaine addiction, his
fall from basically being at theheight of as high as you could
be as a male porn star back then.
His cocaine addiction took himinto a life of crime eventually,
which kind of destroyed hisporn career and he got tied up
with a group called that becameknown as the Wonderland Gang and
(04:22):
the Wonderland Gang murdersbecame a whole thing because he
got wrapped up in basically amurder situation with this gang.
He was later acquitted for itand, in a nutshell, I basically
became intrigued about thiswhole story.
So I got on what was the earlyinternet back then on?
I believe it was Lyco searchand I started looking up like
John Holmes murder trial,because I've always been
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interested in like true crimekind of stuff, what makes people
tick and do the things thatthey do, how they get wrapped in
stuff, wrapped up in stuff,that kind of stuff, and so some
of these early search resultseven though I was not looking
for like ways to make my penisbigger I'd never really thought
of my penis other than anextension of my body that I
urinated and had fun with Istill ended up being turned on
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to some search results that leantoward penis enlargement
because early marketers, evenback then online, were starting
to use things like John Holmespenis enlargement and connect
those two together.
So that's how I ended up on myfirst penis enlargement forum
and it was basically a smallcollection of men who were
claiming to use exercises likestretching with their hands,
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squeezing methods with theirhands and even using something
called weight hanging, which,again, I'd never heard of any of
this kind of stuff.
So I was like, what in theworld are these guys doing?
So I started out of curiosityand I basically hung out as a
lurker, as you'd say, for a fewmonths on this forum that I
found and then I started postingand asking questions because
I'm like, okay, these guys can'tall be crazy.
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There's got to be something toit.
They're claiming this stuffworks.
So I tried some of the basicexercises they laid out examples
of on this forum first, andafter my first, I'd say, three
months, I'd gained my first halfinch and length and girth.
That seemed to be permanent.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I was, and I was hooked and it took off from
there for me.
Okay, hold on, I want to keepgoing.
I have 10,000 questions still.
So does Tosan, but I want tosay Wait, have a Stephanie,
stephanie.
Sorry, I'm so late, you'retotally fine, hello.
So just a quick recap for you.
Ben is the creator of the malehanger, which is a penis
enlargement device, and he wasjust telling us a little bit of
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the history.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Congratulations, I'm so excited to hear everything so
you started with like actualweights.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
I started by using my hands, at first, using some of
these what they call manualexercises.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Wait, so you would pull on your own penis, correct,
was it uncomfortable?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Not much pressure.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Would you apply and how long would you have to hold
it to have results?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Basically, the basic methodology, so to speak, with
your hands is to pull until youfeel a light stretch kind of a
sensation, and hold it for about30 seconds to a minute at a
time, ease off it, repeat andthen for up to 15 to 20 minute
sessions.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And so you had results with this simple action.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, within my first two, three months.
And then I learned about weighthanging and kind of got into
that a little bit very slowly.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
And that was actually hanging weights off of your
penis.
Correct, okay, real talk.
Do you have the world's largestcock now?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
No, I do not, but I've gone from an erect length
of I started out with six inchesand now actually yeah, I'm
confusing myself here a secondSorry, it's a happy dad talking
I started out with an erectlength of five inches and I was
five inches around, measured atthe tape measure, what they call
girth.
I'm currently a bit over seveninches long and six and a half
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inches in the right.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Holy shit, if you stopped doing exercises, would
it go back?
Speaker 3 (07:52):
No, as I was kind of alluding to earlier, Casey, once
you reach a point of no returnwith tissue stretching, kind of
like gauging out your lobes, thetissue stays that way.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
And is it so and everything functions as it would
otherwise, like you didn't get.
You don't get like less hard.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Oh no, I'm in my early 40s now.
I started when I was in myearly 20s and everything works
like it did back in my 20s.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Oh my God, so you've been doing this for 20 years,
often on yes, I do.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Now I restarted about two years ago because I
basically got to a point where Icould do my business full time
about two years ago and so, as aguy who believes in testing
what I sell, using what I doing,what I teach, I felt like it
made sense to get back into it.
It really helps me, as ateacher coaching guys who I sell
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my product to to be moreknowledgeable in what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, I mean it's also.
It's also good to be like look,here's my dick two years ago,
here's my dick now with thisdevice.
Correct.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
You too can have a longer dick.
Can you, for our audience,describe what it looks like?
Oh, he's holding it up rightnow.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, this is my product, male hanger, and it's
basically what you might say isa clam shell kind of device.
It goes around.
You adjust it with this wingnut here.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It goes around the shaft of the penis, correct and
tightened and loosened with awing nut, and so is the is the
clamp itself.
It's like a donut people, sothat there's like space for your
shaft.
Is the device itself weighted,or do you add weights to that?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
No, there's a hook on the end here via a strap and if
you go to my site at malehangercom you can get a visual.
I don't know if this video willhave you know, actual video or
podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
We'll put it in the car.
We'll leave it in the shownotes.
Everybody check out the link inthe show notes.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
And then you connect a weight by the hook there.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Okay, and that's like a sand bag.
I'm sorry, not a full size sandbag, but a tiny sand bag.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Now this is just a weight strap and then an actual
weight player.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Oh, we had at the bottom.
I'm sorry, your video ispropped such that we can't.
I don't think we can see thewhole screen.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
That's okay, I can move it around.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Here we go, I see, I see.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Now do you need to be like?
Still, while this is happening,can you like go about your day
with weights hanging from yourdick?
Speaker 3 (10:03):
No, you should have a place that you dedicate to
using the product.
It's not something you can wearunder clothing, but it doesn't
take much time.
Per day Total of 45 minutes toan hour, which most guys, if
they truly are interested inthis kind of like, getting in
better shape.
Elsewise, you'll make time forit.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Do people kids?
Can you do it sitting at a desk, like while you're working?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah, you can do it sitting, but you can do it
sitting.
You can do it sitting, you cando it sitting.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
You can do it sitting and have you had people come to
you with very, very tinypenises?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I've.
You know I've sold this since2012, casey.
So if I had to guess out of the70,000 units or so that I've
sold in that time, sure there'ssizes from across the spectrum.
So I mean, I do say that youshould have a minimum size of
between four and five incheserect to use male hanger
effectively.
If you're starting out smallerthan that, then I usually tell a
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guy okay, you should start offwith maybe some manual
stretching with your hands, gaina little bit of size first, and
then you can use my product.
I'm pretty open and honest aboutthat kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
So yeah, yeah, Do you think it would be better?
Speaker 1 (11:07):
So I, imagine there's like a like a cap on it.
Like even with tissuestretching, even with like a low
stretching with ears I've heardthat like at some point in time
you can't keep stretching it.
Like people can get pretty bigbut it depends on like how your
cartilage is set up is.
Do you know what that cap isfor for peens?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I don't know for sure if there is a cap.
I've gained a bit, basicallytwo and a half inches ish myself
and length and about an inchand a half and girth, and I've
had customers claim up to threeinches.
I honestly feel like after awhile you basically I mean this
does take effort and consistency, kind of like joining a gym and
consistently getting there andworking out on enough of a basis
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to get the results you want.
So an inch takes enough effort.
I feel like most guys kind offall off after that and it's
kind of the minority who keepgoing.
Plus there's a practicalitysake.
I mean if you're sexuallyactive your partner can usually
take only so much anyway.
So it's kind of a point ofdiminishing returns after, say,
two inches, especially if you'restarting out with five and go
(12:11):
to seven or six or seven and goto eight or nine.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Oh my God, I don't think that is a necessary size
audience.
It's too much penis.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
I mean when it comes to.
I've heard I'm heterosexualmyself, but I know some gay men.
They can take it all more thebetter.
Some women, most of the womenI've been with in my life,
including my wife, they don'tlike the feel of, you know, the
cervix being slammed against youtoo much, but yeah, it's a
girth problem for butt stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I mean, I've taken.
I've taken decently longpenises.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I think that's just like the overall thing of any
kink is there's a spectrum foreverything.
So there's going to be likethere are women's anuses or
anuses that are so much furtherthan their clitoris is than
another female where, liketheirs is right there, they're
right next to each other.
So the like they're reallylucky they have a chance of
having like a prostate andvaginal orgasm a lot easier than
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another woman, and so allbodies are different.
I think that's a reallyimportant thing to say here is
that girth is it might be thething for you, it is not the
thing for everybody.
So you know, because there aresome, just like you said, your
wife, I like him right therewith her, like I don't want to
feel like something is piercingmy insides that feels Intrusive
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to me, and that's probablypurity, culture and my religion,
because it always is.
But I feel like not everybodyneeds, you know, a giant penis.
Those are.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
People all along the spectrum like I.
You know, I have a partner thatwas as a self-proclaimed size
queen, you know, and like we'retalking 10s to 12s and Like
that's the jam, like you know.
I know plenty people with likenine inch minimum.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
I'm not laughing, I'm like in awe, I'm in awe of that
I have.
I have a friend who, truly,that's what she says to me Like
her thing is cute, like sheloves it huge, that is like she
needs it all up in there.
I just mean that not everyhuman body is the same, so, like
you know, always have to changeyourself.
There's somebody out therethat's gonna love your little
penis.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yep, some people want you to, want you to beat it up
and some people don't.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, are there any negative side effects?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Not that I've seen.
I mean, you can misuse theproduct and cause yourself to
have a bruise, but that'susually about the worst.
But I've got a how-to guidethat every one of my customers
gets access to.
I literally put it on a QR codesticker On the product which
takes you to the how-to guide,and so that's got step-by-step
instructions, step-by-steppictures, videos how to
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correctly use the product.
So you really have to go out ofyour way to misuse it.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Okay, how many people's people have you seen?
Probably more than I can count.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Honestly, I talk it up to being kind of like across
between a personal trainer and aurologist, but I don't have to
see my patients in person.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Wait, so you is part of the process of having this
looking at people using it, yeah, I have to help.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
A lot of guys make sure that they're they're
putting it on correctly orthey're adjusting something
correctly, or I get a lot ofquestions about like is it?
Does this look right?
Am I wearing it correctly?
Is it upside?
You know I've seen people puton upside down, sideways,
sometimes both backwards, likeno, that you obviously have not
looked at my guide.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Take a step back.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
The QR code is right.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
So people.
So people have direct access toyou.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yes, I make myself very Easy to get a hold of.
I've got an email on my website.
I've got a phone number on mywebsite, both of which I answer
myself.
I've got a mail hangar forum.
I've got a reddit group and adiscord.
I want to be there on purpose.
I enjoy what I do and I I wantpeople to be able to use my
product correctly.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
What's, what's the most special story to you that
you've heard from use of yourproduct?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Let's see.
I've heard everything from heyBen.
I've been able to.
I've had guys who take, say,high amounts of Viagra up to a
hundred milligrams a day whohave been able to reduce the
amount they take because ofimproved blood flow from using
my product.
I've heard of hey.
You know I gained a coupleinches Anecdotally you know it's
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their words from using mailhanger and I was finally able to
have the courage to ask thatspecial someone out.
Or I finally had the courage toask for that promotion at work.
I mean, again, I've been doingthis since 2012.
I've sold this product aroundthe world to people from all
walks of life that you can thinkof all sexual interests and
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Patients.
I've even had a couple of transwomen who wanted to add some
size before they got what theycall bottom surgery done To have
more tissue to work with.
So I mean, really I've workedwith just about anybody, and
everybody Actually was about.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
When you say that some men went from using 100
milligrams of Viagra a day.
I don't know how Viagra works,so is that just a pill that you
take every single day so thatwhen you do want to have sex
it's working, or do you takethat when you want to have sex?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
It can be both stuffy , basically Viagra and See Alice
.
They're very similar and theyare both what they call best
siloed dilators.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I believe is the correct term.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
So basically, yeah, yeah relaxes blood vessels in
the penis, helps blood flow moreeasily, and so it makes getting
an erection through men's andphysical stimulation easier.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
So you can take it and not necessarily have an
erection.
You're just saying like, hey,I'm taking this as a precaution
today, because later thisevening I might meet a lovely
lady and I'll be ready to get itup.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Yes, you can do that.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Okay, I'm just trying to understand the hundred
milligrams a day.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Because you're the business in your penis get
filled with blood pumpingthrough it.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
No, no, certainly I understand what the drug does.
I'm just saying they needed to.
They need to get hard every dayLike they.
That was what they were goingfor, or is it something that you
like stack up in the body sothat it works when you're ready
to Use it?
I'm just genuinely asking cuz?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I don't Like how big that's.
Yeah, vein can relaxes, so ahundred milligrams will let a
lot more blood in than 20milligrams.
So the more struggle that youhave, the more relaxation.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Okay, so you don't take a viagra and get hard.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
You do.
I thought that you took it.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Cialis is the extended release one which is
like we'll, we're gonna react toyour body, like if you become
aroused and that normal processbegins.
Then Cialis is set up to helpyou out there.
Viagra kind of like is a morelike I'm gonna have sex in an
hour or 30 minutes and that's so.
It's a little right.
It's the cocaine erectionViagra has an agent that
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actually increases your bloodpressure a little bit so that
you're like actual blood Flow ismore and Cialis is more just
about the massive violation.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I see, okay, right so sorry, I just didn't like
chosen's alluding to Viagra ismore of an immediate within an
hour and gives you a four-hourwindow drug.
And then Cialis is somethingyou can take and it usually
lasts up to.
It's basically called theweekend pill.
You can get up to two daysworth of a window, so to speak,
where you can get erections moreeasily or on demand.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Who was taking a hundred milligrams of Viagra a
day is like so grateful to youif he had to cut back that.
That Milligram of anymedication a day, yeah, is
amazing because, again, you weresaying that Cialis is the other
one, that is a time release orwhatever, but this person is
taking Viagra to get hard whenthey wanted to get hard every
day.
So they found a new alternative.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
That's not medical and that's right and that is a
high dose.
Usually if you're taking thatmuch Viagra, you're not
responding to lower doses forwhatever the reason, whether
it's some sort of a medicalcomplication, something
health-wise, some sort of aphysical injury you've had and
lower doses just aren't workingfor you.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
How do you feel about the stereotype of men needing
to have large penises?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
It's kind of like I don't know if it's a haven't
really encountered a stereotypeof Men across the board needing
to have large penises, but theredoes seem to be a stereotype
with certain ethnicities havingcertain sizes or being expected
to be larger, likeAfrican-American dissented men
it tends to be, for whatever thereason that oh he's, he looks
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like he's got a big dick.
Because he's tall, or he's ofAfrican-American descent, he
must have a big dick, or he'sAsian, he must have a small one.
I don't know where thesestereotypes tend to come from,
but it more tends to lean toward, from what I've heard and seen
anyway toward body sizes, heightor Ethnicity.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
For whatever the reason maybe stereotype was a
wrong word the belief, thebelief that men have to have
large penises, cuz like one ofthe examples you gave, a story
with somebody saying, oh, I havea bigger penis.
Now I can finally ask for thatpromotion, which it's.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Yeah, same, and not because I'm like judging,
because like I am in a femalebody and I Think the world
always makes us think we're insuch different categories female
and men and like the fact thatlike that Ways on anyone's heart
is quite relatable to women.
We just don't ever tend to talkabout that, like that's just so
fascinating that you would feelless than.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I think it relates to body image and perception and
that ties into self-confidence,for a lot of people says a woman
may be more confident after shehas, say, breast enhancement
done.
It could relate very similarlyfor a man who's, for different
reasons, somewhatpsychologically Self-confidence
reasons, for whatever the forwhatever the reason he doesn't
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feel good about how his penislooks in relation to the rest of
his body and now he adds aninch or two to it.
I think it's a very similarkind of thing.
I remember.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I remember when I was growing up you know, being a
black dude and watching porn andDeciding that that was like the
size I was supposed to be.
Plus, you know, if this isobviously very quickly in your
black adult male life, you hearthe stereotype and then me
considering me, thinking that Ididn't have a big enough penis,
like.
What ends up happening in yourbrain.
Is any step I take towardssuccess or more Notoriety or
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anything could lead to asituation where, like, someone
will see my penis and if it'sinadequate, then who am I?
And so you'll, like, you'll,sabotage yourself, you'll do all
kinds of wild things likeeventually.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
I mean, that is just like your penis has to be like
an Appropriate ratio to yoursuccess in life.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Yeah, that is so fast , so it's just out in it.
In it I am too.
I am having a mental breakdown,on top of the fact that a lot
of why is this not talked about?
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Because of the way that they're emotionally trained
, usually the main outlet withwhich they are able to have any
other emotion like at all isusually what the having sex are
intimately.
So if the only place where youget to feel soft or care or have
any emotion other than makemoney or be strong is having sex
and then you end you don't havea big penis, which everybody
(23:05):
says you have to have so thatpeople will engage with you in
any other connective way, itjust shatters you and so it's
like you can't do.
You feel stuck in this.
Like you know, I've said it ona podcast a lot that, like boys
are raised to only have twoemotions and that's angry and
horny, right, all bad things areangry, all good things are
horny.
And so if that's all you gotand then you don't have, and the
(23:26):
one tool that you have to have,have to have to participate in
feeling any good feeling insocieties exceptively, is
inadequate and it kind of tanksyour whole self-worth and you
can't talk about it, right, youcan't be like I'm sad because I
have a small penis.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Because, right, oh, my God, I feel like Rudolph the
Red-Nosed Render is about a deerwith a small penis and it's
just been coaxed gently andnicely for all ages to listen to
, because it sounds like this ismore for your validation with
men than women, because nobody'sasking women what they want,
because women not all women wanta big dick, like to me, there
(24:04):
is something so interesting and,again, not judgmental, just
like you said.
I mean, I've had plasticsurgery not for my boobs but for
my nose.
Like I, if there's somethingyou want to do to make yourself
feel better, for sure.
But at the end of the day, Ithink I'm just fascinated by
where it comes from, like wherethat desire is, because, again,
I've read articles on women withlike endometriosis and like
(24:26):
severe scar tissueing inside.
All sex is painful for them, solike a small penis actually is
like the bomb for them.
So somebody out there who mightfeel like their small penis is
unworthy it hasn't meant the hotdemerit of the moral of this
story.
Because, again, if you want to,I totally under, like it's
(24:46):
making me understand why thatwould be in need, but also like
don't feel shame.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
And you're more than your penis anyway.
And also there's lots of sexthat you can have that don't
involve your penis at all.
That is just as fun andglorious and in good time.
And if you take the time tolike, step away, like, if you
come to the realization that youdon't have to wrap all of your
emotional connection inpenetration, that everything
(25:13):
that you actually are lookingfor from why you become so
interested in sex and like, whyyou do it because of the way
you've been emotionallysocialized.
That's why, like, asmrstreamers do so well.
That's why, like, there's anentire porn sections that are
just women staring into thecamera being like you're great
and I want you and it's like.
(25:33):
That's because that's whatyou're looking for, more than
just like warm locations.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
I think a lot of it as well.
You could say, so to speak.
To blame for this, these kindof things, is that you know
there does tend to be in musicand in Hollywood oftentimes and
in porn there is a what somewould call a pandemic of porn
addiction for young men thesedays.
The more porn you watch, themore warped your perception of
(26:00):
things like penis size and whatyou need to have or what people
expect you to have can be that Ialready say warped, but
basically you know you've gotthese things to factor in on
this whole thing, this wholesituation.
Why these days, especially backwhen I started the stuff in
1999, I mean, like I was sayingbefore you came on the line,
steffi, to Casey and Tosen hereI'd never given my penis a
(26:22):
second thought before I stumbledinto the online world of penis
enlargement out of curiosity.
It was just something is a partof my body I literally urinated
with and had fun with, and thatwas it.
I never considered the size ofit.
Was it good enough?
Was it big enough?
Did it look normal?
Did it function like it wassupposed to?
I never had any of thesethoughts about my penis before I
found penis enlargement andthen all of a sudden I kind of
(26:42):
go down this rabbit hole.
Over the years and now I candefinitely relate to guys these
days who fast forward 20 yearsand it seems like I forget what
the percentages are, but it'spretty high.
You've got more and more youngmen who have a porn problem.
They don't socialize like theyused to, we're obsessed with
screens and not really even ondates.
I mean, you look around in arestaurant.
(27:03):
My wife and I will go out todinner.
We put our phones away, butanybody under 30 is usually if,
even if they're on a date with aperson they're supposed to be
talking to, they might besending things back and forth to
themselves on their phones,sitting right across from each
other, but they're not engagingdirectly.
So it's like you've got allthese things these days that are
contributing most likely topenis size related insecurities,
(27:23):
and so while it's I hate tosound selfish in a good way for
me, it's great for business, butat the same time it's, you know
, it's kind of a problem becauseso many have insecurity issues
about their penises.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Yeah, but I think the way that you are kind of
bringing it to light is that ithas longevity potential to.
So maybe just self confidencein one Like I'm.
Again, I'm not shaming anyonewho wants to have their penis
enlarged.
I'm saying as a female, not ofthat world of men who talk about
that.
I didn't know that this is likea that men feel insecure about
(28:00):
that.
That's so fast, it'sfascinating.
I mean, of course men can getinsecure about things.
I don't not know that.
It's just that's.
It was just a fascinating thingto learn as a female.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Well, that's why guys drive big trucks.
You know they have a smallpenis.
It's another stereotype, right?
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Is that true?
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
The.
The joke is that you'recompensating for it, right, so
you're trying your best, rightto.
I was like I mean, a goodreason of that I am the piano
player than I am now is becauseI I'm trying.
I was trying to build stockagainst the inevitable
disappointment that someone wasgoing to have, so that, like, by
the time they got to the pointwhere I was naked in front of
(28:44):
them, they were like, well, he'sreally talented, he's really
funny and there's all theseother things.
So if he's the few inches shortof what I need, that's fine,
I'll deal with it.
Especially in my, like, highschool years, there was a lot of
my motivation for becoming moreand more talented.
I mean, I also loved it too.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
I think I can relate to that, ok, and maybe maybe not
.
Like call me out, but I had noboobs.
Like we're talking concave,like my boobs went the other way
, like there was not a sportsbra, there was not anything that
I ever needed.
And you get to a certain agewhere I'm super confident with
my small, small breasts.
Now I genuinely would not wantto a boob job, but I really was.
(29:20):
Like I had heard one time thata girl's boobs came in when she
was 18 and another one she was19.
So every year I was like thisis my year.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
My boobs are going to come.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
Like I'm going to be a woman.
My mom had boobs.
My mom was this tall, beautiful, stunning woman with boobs and
I was like my boobs never cameand I mean, I think it even gave
me like a like a notintelligent complex of like.
I never felt like womanlywithout my boobs for a long,
long time.
And then I found out in my like20s that my mom had a boob job.
You know, you find out laterthat, like, my mom didn't have
(29:53):
boobs either.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Your mom's boobs are fake and she never told you Not
tall as like 20.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
And I was like no, because this is, this is
Christian Southern, the Southwhere we're like we don't talk
about it at the time she wasalso like gung-ho when I wanted
a nose job because she was likeyou do you do what you need to
do?
But again, these, these allcome from places of like what we
think we're supposed to looklike and have, and just it's
just fascinating and I think italso there's a huge divide right
(30:19):
now between like men and women.
Sometimes it feels like andearly, we all kind of have
similar Shitty things to dealwith.
I mean definitely.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I wish there was a woman version of the male hanger
, because I remember when I wasyounger and also had complex Not
complex, but like was worriedabout the size of my breasts.
Now I also have small breastsand I think they're fan fucking
tastic.
So, I remember we like I sawcommercials for like blue song,
which was this cream leave you,bro, on your breasts and it
makes them bigger.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Yes, and at the time I remember that.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I mean, obviously, that I should get that, and
maybe my mom joked about gettingit for me, and now I'm like
there's no cream, this is gonnamake your boobs bigger.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
My friend found these pills in my glove compartment
and, instead of telling her thatit was to grow my breasts from
this impo martial, I was tooembarrassed so I said they were
diet pills.
And I came home that night to aIntervention from my family
because my friend had called totell them addicted to diet pills
(31:20):
and Because I didn't tell myparents or anybody that I
thought these things like so nowyou had to tell everybody
they're like you're not dietpills.
They're for my boobs, mom.
It's dumber than diet pills.
Diet pills have stuff in themthat actually work.
This is probably just dirt fromthe ground.
So I'm taking from my boobs togrow, because they did not grow
(31:43):
of it.
Did you tell everybody?
Of course we had more might.
Yes, because my parents werelike we are really.
That was a fast intervention.
Why?
Okay, well, this is the baptistchristian world.
Okay, she thought, saw this assatan and she was gonna say me
they move, they move quick withtheir exorcism, exorcism, but
just the fact that I am ateenager probably 15 at home
(32:04):
watching tv going my boobsaren't big enough, but this pill
says it'll grow it this manysizes that pill and that cream.
They probably made so muchmoney.
Oh yeah, and I get it.
Yeah, that's what we thought wewere supposed to have.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I I definitely got got by.
What is that porn star's name?
Who's like a bigger, I think atime, and Ron.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Jeremy.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, ron Jeremy, I definitely got by his penis
enlargement like infomercialsthat were going on the middle of
the night.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
He had some.
What did he say?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Oh yeah, Just like an infomercial came on at 1 am,
you know, after I was donewatching hbo.
Real sex was like Ron Jeremy's.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Taxi cab confession.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Yeah, they all of those skin and max red shoe
diaries on the lifetime channel,by the way, which was just
playing, you know, christianmovies right before they got to
keep the bills as as they set itup so diabolically to happen,
so funny.
But no, yeah, I was like youknow, when I got him on, one of
my first jobs Is to get like oneof those things because, like
it, like I said, I tried, Itried so many things.
(33:05):
I was like I did, I did penisstretching, where I was probably
doing wrong and I wasn't doingit consistently.
I was just kind of like sad andthen I was like this is gonna
fix it.
You know, that's it pills.
He doesn't cry, come on and soyou know you it's, it's a silly
time and you know like anotherthing is like.
(33:25):
It's just that it.
It would be so much better ifpeople talk about things like I
did not know that there was ashow where grower thing for a
long time like so.
I'm definitely like a turtle.
So if I'm, if I'm not erect,I'm pretty much like I have very
.
I have fairly large testicles.
So if I'm not erect, like mywhole penis is pretty much like
wrapped up in my balls.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
But you know, I I'm fine like I'm, I'm, I'm like in
the it was with a show or not agrower one time, and I'm telling
you, when his pants were downand he was not erect it was.
It was a Mushroom, but like thesize of a mushroom little.
When he was erect it was we'retalking eight girthy, horrifying
(34:04):
inches.
And bless him and who he wenton to be with because I'm sure
her cervix can handle that.
But that was like Sciencefiction to me.
When I watched it transform andthat was the first time I mean,
like they don't just tellpeople out there that it's like
that my 31 year old friendrecently reached out and said I
need to tell you something.
I'm watching this show on HBO.
(34:25):
Did you know that men who areuncircumstised when their penis
gets hard you can't even tellthey're uncircumstised?
And I was like, yes, but it?
But it is crazy to me but alsonot crazy to me that 30 year old
women don't understand thatpenis is all work, the thing
like circumcised or not, likewhen they're hard it's a penis
but, we have ideas of like oh,it's uncircumstised.
(34:45):
That's crazy.
You know, in sex in the citythey're like he has a sharpache,
he carries a little housearound for his penis and it's so
aggressive towards men who areUncircumstised.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah, it's so wild, like the things that like People
don't talk about that, likeeverybody experiences, and
because you don't talk about it,you don't know that it's like a
common thing that occurs that'sright had like I'm Slightly
over seven inches and abouttoilet paper roll like toilet
paper hold a roll thick which isabove average and I swear for
like up until I was like 22.
(35:17):
I was like oh, you know, I'm atthe back of the black man line
and Fine, the actual I.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
My brain is like shutting down.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Why did you think you were on the small end?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I'm a big guy.
So like my, because I'm abigger guy, I don't see my penis
past my stomach.
So my perception of like howlong my penis is is like
non-existent, because if I lookdown I don't really see it.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
I also, I also have never gotten a mirror and
examine yourself down there.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Oh, I mean like I found out, because I got like
that's what women.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
That's what women ask each other.
You've never looked at yourvagina with a mirror.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yeah, I mean, like I've seen it in videos and stuff
now, like now I'm like I've caninteract with it more from a
third party perspective.
And you know, like when I wasmeasuring it, like I was
measuring it flaccid and that'swhere I was like getting my inch
judgment from and beingsomebody who like completely
shrinks, it's like one point youwere hurting your own feeling
exactly and so and then it was,like you know, I fortunately got
(36:13):
with a partner who you knowthey were like I had.
I had imagined that likepartners I had been with up
until that point were just beingnice on, like like being sore
and things like that, and I waslike whatever.
And then like somebodyliterally was just like hold on
and like got out of like clothmeasuring tape and I was like
you were this thick around andthis long, which is here's the
here's the national average ofpenis size.
(36:35):
You are above average.
Relax.
I was like you're a toiletpaper roll size.
Nobody's that size.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Yeah, nobody's out there going.
What does the average clitorisenjoy?
Speaker 1 (36:45):
right and they should .
Speaker 2 (36:47):
I don't even thinking about the clitoris.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Westernized culture taboos.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
Yeah, yeah, but we're getting better right huge penis
for what?
Speaker 2 (36:57):
For what?
For what Like?
How is your huge penis going tosatisfy me more when your small
penis already doesn't satisfyme, where you think the
satisfaction comes in the sizeof your penis, like if it's
bigger.
I'll just all of a sudden havewaves of ecstasy when you get
closer to me, like I'll besucked into the Gravitational
(37:17):
pull of your penis and just beoverwhelmingly I'm gonna start
coming.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
This is why Casey is a goddess Does there are lines
that will be.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Does it matter what side to your penis is?
This will?
Speaker 4 (37:28):
be kink canon one day .
I believe it.
That line will be kink canon.
I will be not thought of, Iwill be an afterthought, but
Casey will have thoughts thatwill haunt you in your dreams so
that you change for the better.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Yeah, For everybody that thinks they need a large
penis to satisfy women.
You can have a big penis andwomen can be wildly unsatisfied.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Listen.
One benefit to mymisunderstanding of my own penis
size was I became a deepstudent of clitoral stimulation
because I was like well, theonly way I'm ever going to be
able to stay in the game is Iwill have to be the best at
cunnilingus.
So I don't know, I haven't donethe necessary legwork to find
out how I'm the best, but nocomplaints thus far.
(38:10):
The you don't take surveys.
I do take surveys, but that'sanecdotal and autistic.
But because I will literally,especially with new partners, I
will be like a few days after,because I feel like like I
personally have the inclinationto like, come up, wipe my face
off and be like can you give mea report card rating on anything
that I've done and how youwould like me to change and any
adjustments you would like me tomake?
(38:30):
I noticed that minute mark 448,that you are pushing my head
down to the side and I don'tknow if that meant you wanted in
more pressure or that youwanted me to move lower down
laterally on your clitoris.
So if you can clarify that forme so I can add it to the
spreadsheet so that I canperform better for you next time
, that's not hot.
I don't do that right after.
Thank you, science.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
I weighed a couple of things.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
He weighs a day, and then I was like, hey, is there
any you know calibrations oradjustments you'd like me to
make?
And there were a couple ofsignals that I didn't understand
and wanted to ask you.
Let me know and thencontinually do it, but yeah, so
you must have pretty good Yelpreviews.
I do have references.
I do have a few people that Ican send people to and be like.
Can you give a user ratingreview?
Speaker 2 (39:12):
I will say, before we say in subjects, change
subjects really quick that oneof my top favorite oriasms that
I think about when I think aboutfavorite orgasms was given to
me by a gentleman who had a verylarge penis One of my favorite
large penises, in fact but I wasgiven that orgasm using a
vibrator and his fingers.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
So that's a t-shirt that's like knowledge, that is
again canon, like that's poetry,sheer poetry, sheer poetry.
Because it's not, it's nobody'sgetting cut down here.
It's literally saying no, it isnot about your penis all the
time.
Sometimes it is very much aboutyour penis, but you should love
your penis as long as it worksthe way you want it to work.
(39:52):
If it doesn't, work, then fuckthat penis.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, no, I immediately
regret it, that phrasing.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
Just mean Then, like I understand, like, oh, I would
like my penis to get hard.
Sure, whatever you need to dofor that.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Well, ben, I'm glad you sell the age old problem
yeah it's.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
actually there aren't many.
When it comes to stuff likethis, like wanting longer hair
or bigger boobs or a biggerpenis or to get rid of age spots
or whatever, there actuallyaren't a lot of solutions at
work, so I'm delighted thatthere's a product out there that
actually works.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
And that you don't have to ingest in your body.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yeah, and you added length to your own penis and it
can say no, this is functional,it works.
Yeah, if you do want a largerpenis, this is a fabulous
solution.
And do people like, do peoplebrag about how much weight they
hang off it?
You know, like guys at the gymthey're like yeah, I squat 250
or however much a lot is or guysuse the male hang and they're
like, yeah, I hang, I hang fivepounds you know whatever Not
(40:58):
typically.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
You guys sound much more of all.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
I've been wanting to say.
I'm also one of the few outthere selling a product like
mine.
That is actually not only myown.
You know, one of my own bestcustomers actually document the
results.
I continue to get on inmeasured videos as I progress.
So I feel like that's veryimportant.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
How much weight yeah, how much weight do men hang off
the male hanger Like?
What's the maximum amount?
Speaker 3 (41:22):
There's not a set maximum amount you're chasing.
I always suggest you start withone to two pounds at most in
the very beginning and veryslowly progress, and I teach in
my guide that everybody getsaccess to how to make that
progress in a smart way, safely.
Based on my experiences withmyself and coaching others over
the years, I can personally hangup to 40 pounds, but holy shit.
(41:45):
Damn, I didn't get thereovernight 40 pounds.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
I don't even bicep curl 40 pounds on one side.
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Yeah, that's an Olympian and your penis.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
So what you're saying is your penis can be me in an
arm wrestle competition.
Speaker 4 (41:58):
Possibly.
It's an Olympic Olympic penis.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
And coming to the stage three time gold medalist
Ben Clark in the penis curls.
We've seen quite a performancefrom this year and we're looking
to see something greater.
I can't believe it.
He's picking up the 50 poundkettlebell.
Can he do it?
Now?
Where's Doug?
Come on in?
This is silly.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
That's hilarious, the equivalent thing.
There's an equivalent thing forwomen and it's about pelvic
floor and your muscles and it'slike.
It's like putting a yoni egginside with I forget what I used
, but you can like put a pieceof string through the yoni egg
and like hang weights off it andthen do kegels, basically so
(42:39):
your weight lifting with yourpelvis floor.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
I've seen that.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
You know, it makes you tighter and stronger and
helps you with incontinence andstuff like that.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
I've seen that yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
You can also get stuck inside you.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
I'm going to try it with 40 pounds now, though no.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
Casey Do it.
Casey, do it.
No, casey tries it, I'm goingto do it.
Casey tries it.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
That would be the appropriate Casey tries it for
this episode Toast and you'llhave to do the toast and try it.
I mean sure We'll have to getyou a nail hanger.
I'll give it a shot.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Like I'll put it on, I'm not particularly, I don't
necessarily well, there arepositional advantages to a
larger penis, like there are sexpositions that I need about
three and a half more inches forto pull off, and I guess that
experience would be nice.
But you know I'll put it onLike I want to.
I do want to see, like, how itworks and how that goes.
Speaker 4 (43:23):
So you're saying that you would like to get to 10
inches?
Speaker 1 (43:27):
I think the thing I'm actually looking for is like a
comfortable penis extender,because I had looked into that
for a long time.
For a little bit, when I washaving like after the vasectomy,
I was having some likemaintaining erection issues for
a little bit, and so I was likelooking for penis extenders.
That was like, oh okay, well,this fixes the positional
problem, but I don't want tolike permanently have Like.
(43:48):
I only want to have 10 inchpenises so that I can do certain
like on the side positions,because I got to clear my belly
to do some of those and I waslike that's the only reason I
would want it.
So it would be temporary,because I don't know that.
I don't know that I have anybodyaround that's like wants to
take 10 inches of dick.
I guess there's probably somedudes I can find, but yeah, yeah
, for sure People out therehonestly it's.
(44:09):
it's surprising to me that, likehow I've I've surprised myself
with how much like dick youcould put, put in, put in the
butt, and how quickly you getused to the sizes.
Like I look at, like the dildosthat I have for my own, like
but play on my own, and theyjust keep progressively getting
larger and you just like, yeah,you can well.
No, I'm used to that, I'm usedto that thick eight incher.
It's time to move on up.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Oh my God, oh my God, ben, is there anything else
that you want to share withpeople about the male hanger
that you didn't get a chance tosay, since we're coming up on an
hour now?
Speaker 3 (44:39):
I think anything that can't be shown or answered or
covered on my website.
Honestly, I think we've coveredit.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
And your male, your male hanger, your what's your
website?
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Malehangercom, male like, and you have a YouTube
channel.
I do.
It's male like the genderhanger, like what you hang
clothes on, all one wordcom.
And yes, I'm on YouTube as welland I've got my website and all
the appropriate links and allthat you can.
There's even an introductionvideo about the product basic
use information on my site onthe main page.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Fantastic.
Yeah, everybody check it out.
All this information will be inthe show notes as well.
Ben, thank you so much forchatting with us today.
Thank you, you've been fuckingfantastic and I appreciate your
time.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Totally.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Thank you for having me, Of course, and until next
time I'll use sexy beast.
Let's all.
Let's all lift 40 pounds withour tenitals.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Okay, let's do that.
Get right on that.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Bye, all right, bye.
Bye sexy babies.
Speaker 5 (45:36):
Bye, Talk Dirty to Me is a podcast by Little Renegade
Films.
It stars Sarah Marie Currie,Casey Sammie Casey why don't you
sound?
Real sexy while you do it Do.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
I.
Speaker 5 (45:47):
No, why don't you, oh , why don't I?
Speaker 4 (45:49):
Yeah, Like you remember how you read your
synopsis and you say yeah, youwant me to do it like that.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Yes, okay, great.
Speaker 5 (45:56):
Okay, genius.
Okay, talk Dirty to Me is apodcast by Little Renegade Films
.
It stars Sarah Marie Currie,casey Sammie, tosin Alifaso and
Stephanie Spick, with silentcontributions by Taylor Novak.
Title and closing themes byTosin Alifaso.
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