November 19, 2023 • 38 mins
- Guest: Gwen Sunkel (can we get the spelling of these guest names dropped somewhere I can find them so that I don’t have to guess how to spell the name as I’m looking for their socials to link??)
- From Indianapolis
- Stand up comedian for the last 8 years
- Also a nurse practitioner by day
- About to release a special Dec 1 on her YouTube channel
- On sort of both sides of the slash for kink
- Likes to be a sub, but also loves bossing men around
- Single, non-monogamous
- Relationships are time consuming
- Stand up comedy is the girlfriend between girlfriends.
- Women in comedy have it harder
- Sex in comedy
- Bedpost Confessions
- Kink in comedy and film
- Stephanie’s not here for surprise kink in film where surprise kink in film should not be.
- TW for rape discussion
- Starts around 15m:23s and goes through about 17:28
- Another “rape” bomb at 18m:16s
- Leonardo DiCaprio seems to get paddled in his films a lot. Thrice so far.
- Gwen’s Socials
- https://www.gwensunkel.com/
- Insta: @gwenderwoman
- Twitter: @gwenderwoman
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Well, well, well, go ahead and open up your ears,
your mind and whatever else youneed.
You're listening to Talk DirtyTo Me.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello all you sexy beasts and welcome back to Talk
Dirty To Me, the podcast where agroup of friends with different
perspectives on kink, fetishand sex talk dirty to one
another.
How's everybody doing today?
Hopefully sexy as fuck.
With me I have Tosin Awoo Fessothe kink-.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Hello Ahoy.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Stephanie Slayton, the queen of spankos.
Oh, how Don't be so excited tobe here.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Stephanie, I'm just, that was just like an old, like
howdy guy, oh howdy.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
KC neighborhood femdom sometimes from time to
time, and our special guest GwenSunkel.
Gwen, how are you doing today?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Hi, I am doing so well.
I am thrilled to be here withy'all and I have to say, KC, you
have a very sexy voice.
Oh, thank you.
Very great podcasting voice.
Thanks, Trulite.
Yeah, I would say I have theface for radio, but you really
have the voice for it, so that'sgood.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Maybe one day somebody will want my sexy
podcast voice on theircommercial.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I want it right now.
I'll make a book commercialtomorrow.
Right now I'm gonna do it.
Can you do?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
it, can you do it?
Gwen?
You're a comedian yes, I am,tell me yeah and also a
character actor yes, yeah, canyou tell me a little bit?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
about your history and your bio.
Yeah, yeah, so I live inIndianapolis.
I started doing stand-up comedyabout eight years ago by trade.
I'm a nurse practitioner and Iam about to put out a special
Comes out drops December 1st.
So if y'all want to see me andwatch me, you can see that
coming out on December 1st on myYouTube channel and I love
traveling all around to tell thefunnies and laugh at all the
(01:57):
things we shouldn't laugh at,right?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, I love it, and I didn't know you're a nurse
practitioner.
That's also very exciting.
Yeah, I guess yeah.
I'm excited to have you therebecause I am also a female
shocker and a comedian as well,so yeah, so I'm really looking
forward to chatting with youabout being a woman in comedy
and sex and how it all blendstogether.
Tosin's also a comedian.
Stephanie is an actor as well.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Love it.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I'm all in the same pond here.
We're amongst friends.
We're amongst friends.
Yeah, so real quick when wedive in.
Are you at all kinky?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yeah, I would say so.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Tell me all about it.
What's your kink?
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I mean, I don't know that I have any one that I'm
very specific for, but I do lovesubmissive stuff, because it's
that old trope that it's likeugh, I'm so in charge and have
to make a lot of decisions andI'm responsible for a lot of
stuff during the day, so I wouldlove if somebody would just
come in and take that all off myplate while I'm having sexy
(02:55):
time.
But I also really enjoy makingfun of men and bossing them
around, and it's that you knowget sexy and fine with that as
well.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
So it sounds like you are on both sides of the slash
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I would say I just the thing Ilove about kink is just the
level of excitement that itbrings to sex, and I know you're
like, oh to sex need to be moreexciting.
And it's like yeah, we'replaying with it.
It's a fantasy, we're havingfun.
You know, like, if that's whatyou want to do, then there's
(03:28):
nothing.
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, do you have play partners, or is it
something you just enact withpartner partners?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
I don't have any current play partners, but I
have in the past, yeah, and soit's been like a fun dynamic One
of my favorite partners.
We would like switch mid-scene,kind of who was doming or
whatever, which was the mostdelightful thing, because it
would be kind of like, okay, tagout, I can't.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I can't be in charge anymore.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Nice, I'm spent.
I need you to make thedecisions.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
When you die, I'm going to untie you.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
And then let's just pick up where we left off, but
with reverse roles.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Yeah, I'm going to emotionally starfish this.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
That's fantastic.
And your relationship stylings.
Are you Polly?
Are you monogamous?
Are you non-anogamous?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Non-anogamous.
Yeah, I just, I wish single butnon-monogamous.
So, which always makes you feelreally good, right?
You're like I'm open toeveryone, I'm open to more than
one, everyone.
So where are they?
Speaker 5 (04:24):
I will accept anything.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Yes, yes, but yet here I am.
Maybe that's the, maybe that'smy problem, maybe it's like too
broad you know people are likeafraid to touch it because it's
too much.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
But I don't know.
I have you said sometimes I'mopen to everything and sometimes
I'm not.
But no matter what I do, I findmost often that what I end up
with is fuck boys and that'sthey're, they're so everywhere.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
They're so everywhere .
Speaker 4 (04:48):
I also say too I also say too, I don't know if y'all
run into this as likeentertainers, but, like I said,
you know the time that I wouldhave to put toward a
relationship I am putting towardperforming Like I'm dating
stand up comedy.
You know like yeah, and you canlike.
Sometimes you meet people whoare like starting stand up and
things like that and you cantell like, oh, they're just
(05:11):
doing this, like in betweengirlfriends you know, it's just
like the surrogate partnerbetween human partners is stand
up comedy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like well, I don't haveanybody to go on a day with
tonight, so I guess I'll go toan open mic and practice these
dick and fart jokes.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Oh my God, that's hilarious.
Yeah, are you?
So you've been doing comedy foreight years and you okay.
So let's talk about being awoman in comedy.
Let's do it?
I find that it is.
I mean, it's obviously maledominated.
We've all watched the MarvelousMs Mazewell.
Do you find that?
Speaker 4 (05:44):
I couldn't watch it.
I gotta be honest.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Really, why tell me everything?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Because I know how the sausage is made Like you
know it's it's.
I also like can't watch amedical drama because I'm like
that's not real.
Yeah, I like you can't watchGrey's Anatomy.
Come on, are you kidding?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
me?
Yeah, that's fair.
Have you found that?
Do you feel like?
I don't know?
This question might be clichethat it's been.
You could do it.
As a woman has been moredifficult to try to rise within
the industry.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Oh my God, yeah, like I was prepared, prepared for it
to be like a boys club, but Iwas not prepared for how much of
a boys club.
You know, yeah, I was like Ithought I was going in eyes wide
open, but still no it's, yeah,there's, there's like so many
dynamics about it, but yeah, no,I definitely feel that harder,
(06:32):
it's hard, yeah, it's harder forwomen to excel.
I feel like women will like getone chance, or like two chances
, and if they don't knock it outof the park on that like one
big chance, it's like, oh well,she's not ready, you know, but
like guys can go up there andyou know, not do their best over
and over and over again, andeveryone still like, books them
(06:53):
and and engages with them andeverything.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, that sounds right.
Oh yeah, oh for sure.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I've I've had several male stand up comic friends
trying to make it, who are justbad.
It's just like you're not,you're not fine.
How do you keep getting prettydecent slots at these places?
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Yeah, I usually say that that's it's probably a
thing where it's like all had nocowboy.
You know, it's like they're agood hang, they're like fun hang
out with.
They have weed, they you knowwhat for what you know.
Something else is like keepingthem in the door you know, is it
their dick holding the door.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
It's a doorstopper.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Yeah, it's like a doorstop.
Yeah, if the dicks and comedywere that big, we would all be
having a different podcast rightnow, I think.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
And you talk about sex a lot in comedy.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Yeah, yeah, Just because I think it's like
relatable, I guess yeah,everybody, everybody has sex.
And well, not everybody, butmany, many people have sex and
many people have they.
Don't laugh about it enough,you know, we're not willing.
We're not willing to like besilly about it.
We think like that being sexymeans being serious, and I don't
(08:02):
think that's necessarily or not, the best way to approach every
woman queefs after doggie style.
Right, right, sorry Before,during, after it's the cherry on
top of that position.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, Like that's how you know you did it right you
know I worn all the cunnilingualconnoisseurs in their lifetime
and I'm like listen, orgasmscause, you know, contractions,
tensions and then relaxations.
Be prepared to be farted in theface of okay, it's going to
happen, yeah, don't make it athing.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
You right, yeah.
Or if you're going to like,make it a thing, don't like
embarrass somebody about it,unless they're like that True.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Have you ever heard of?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
somebody like with a humiliation kink, who like
someone making them do stand upcomedy, not a stand up comedy.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
You know, I enjoy, I enjoy being animated, but I
don't think anyone's cleverlybeen that creative.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I was like all right that's, you know what stage you
should go on stage, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
That is a great humiliation for somebody.
Holy shit, especially ifthey're not a comedian.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Yeah, so there was actually this sorority here in
town who, like if somebody Idon't know got in trouble or
they were like punished amongtheir like punishment was that
they had to sign up to do theopen mic at the comedy club in
our town.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Oh my, God, that's fantastic.
What a punish, yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
And I'm like, I'm so glad that my life's dream is
going to shit.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Really quick before we divert too far from it.
I wanted to share this storywhen, tosen, you were talking
about contracting and relaxingand things that happened.
So I went to bedpostconfessions with a just a
storytelling show here in Austin, texas, that talks about, you
know, things that are a littlemore sex related and they do
these confessions.
So when you come in as theaudience you can fill out a
confession card it's anonymousand then they read them between
(09:41):
storytellers and they just yeah,they read like whatever
somebody confessed and one of myfavorite confessions.
So this is somebody else'sconfession that I heard at
bedpost confessions.
She was talking about how thisguy was going down on her and it
was incredible and she'd neverexperienced just pleasure from
receiving head and she wasenjoying it fully and all of a
sudden she farted and she wasmortified.
(10:03):
But before she get to sayanything, the gentleman lifted
up his finger, put it to herbutthole and said shh, that's
the man of the cloth.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Gentlemen, oh my God.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Mary, that man.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
So have you found that when you talk about sex
during your sets, the audienceis receptive to it, or do they
have to warm up to it?
Speaker 4 (10:24):
I think it's better if, like, I warm up to it a
little bit, it's I, or if I'mdoing like a really short set,
if I'm doing like seven minutesor something, then it's like I
almost want the whole thing tobe about sex.
Sometimes that's like thebetter way to go, as opposed to
just sprinkling it in here there.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do you ever do comedy aboutKing stuff?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Not really.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
How about y'all?
No, I've not had theopportunity yet.
Yeah, yeah, I do mostly improvand then I haven't done a show
in a really long time because ofthe pandemic, and I did it for
20 years before that.
So after the pandemic I waslike I'm good.
Good on that.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I'm good on that, but I would now yeah, I have to be,
because this podcast camearound after the pandemic, so it
never the twain.
The two paths have not crossedyet, but we'll see.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah, one thing, not a comedian, but I think it's
time.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I like that encouragement.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
What's Stephanie?
Yeah, agreed, I'm not acomedian, but I find it creeping
up in my work like writing andstuff.
I feel like King Rear's it said.
Now, you know, ever since I'vekind of come out of the King
closet and done this podcast andwhatnot, I find it all over now
.
Now I see it even in films I'mwatching, where I'm like, excuse
me, that wasn't in the book.
Oh, someone on set definitelyhad that kink.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Like what's an example?
I want to know.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
For instance, killers of the Flower Moon is a new
Scorsese film that's out rightnow and Robert De Niro plays
Leonardo DiCaprio's uncle.
And Leonardo DiCaprio is 48years old and he takes a
paddling from his uncle andthat's not in the book and sure
I know that people did reallycrazy things back then.
I don't know in what world a 48year old man lets his uncle
(11:58):
paddle him.
So for me that was someone onset who's like I know what we
should do here and I have lotsof feelings about that because
that's non-consensual to theaudience and weird.
Just make a just make a f**kingspanking film or don't because
I wait.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Do you think, do you feel like that no Kings can be
in film because the audiencedidn't consent to see them?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I think that a lot of people do put that stuff in.
Five Nights at Freddy's andWilly's Wonderland are
essentially the same film.
They couldn't be named the samething, but they're after this
game called Five Nights atFreddy's.
There's no pedophilia anywhere.
There's pedophilia throughoutboth of these films, from the
very beginning to the very end.
It's stuff that I feel likepeople can't help, the kinks
they have.
(12:36):
They find creative ways to putthem in and the artists were
consensual.
If it wasn't in the book, whyall of a sudden is it in the
film?
And if anything, it was alittle bit jolting where even my
spanko friends were like I was,my jaw was on the floor because
it's kind of.
It's just a weird predicament.
What world in what world?
(12:58):
And so you know, I mean I am astickler for like consent and I
do feel like that's beenhappening since, like I was a
kid in films with like, wherekids would get spanked on screen
.
I think that there's some, Ithink there's some weird
bleeding over and you know Ialso have empathy for the fact
that it was not.
You know, these people didn'tknow what to do with it.
So they're in the film world,they throw in what they like,
(13:19):
fine.
I mean the Nickelodeon guy whowas like the head of all the kid
shows.
Every one of those kid shows,the kids take their shoes off
and their feet are all in thecamera and you know, come to
find out this guy had a majorfoot fetish, which fine.
But with kids, come on Hello.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah.
But that's just my judgey, Ithink if you are doing source
material that people will expectare expecting a certain thing
and then surprising them withkinky things, then you should
let them know.
Like it'd be weird if BraveLittle Toaster was readapted and
you know, the vacuum cleanerwas like choking people with his
wires just because somebodylike they had a choking kick.
(13:55):
I was like you did something.
You did something new there.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
The Brave Little Toaster was already upsetting
enough.
Okay, we don't need.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I just really watched it and I'm just like this movie
is rough.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Who is that movie for ?
It's so upsetting, don't watchit.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
It's really upsetting .
It takes you on a rollercoaster.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
It's Wally bad it does it's Wally bad oh?
No, go ahead, so we go on youfirst you first Like do you
think that in Killers of theFlower Moon that was like meant
to be sexual?
Or do you think like any timetwo adults are like engaging in
a spanking thing, there's likeno, I don't think that.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
I don't think that it was sexual in what for anyone
watching it, unless they were aspanko who enjoys male and male
spanking, which I do.
But I don't like it in my facewhen I'm not ready for it,
because I'm also an analyticalperson and I really care about
script and story and you reallyhave to keep me on track if I'm
going to watch a three hourgoddamn film and I missed like
(14:53):
20 minutes after because I waslike what just happened?
Because I read the book and Iwas, I mean, hello, I would have
been first in line to see thisfilm, had it, you know, been in
the book and I was excited forit and show this to me.
But I was like this I'm stilllike what just happened?
What right now just happened.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
So I have to be like the weird devils.
I'm here and say that it's.
I can't imagine a world whereyou have to consent to
everything that happens in film,because so much bad shit
happens in film.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
For sure.
But that's why the worlds of,in my opinion, porn and film
should not be so polarized.
And oh, it's a porno Like thereshould be, just like there's TV
MA and all these differentwarnings for violence and all of
that stuff.
You at least know that that'scoming.
I just think that things likewe're at a place in the world
(15:42):
where we know that people aretriggered, we know that there's
PTSD, that intense rape sceneswill never be necessary to me.
In a film you can allude to it,you can absolutely say that
this is what happened.
But I think that when there'slike a like, for instance, in
Cessna Neck, what's the show?
They're in Scotland and shetime travels, anyway, there's a,
there's a non-consensual therecould prop there's probably one
(16:06):
in that too.
But there's a non-consensualspanking in this because she
like does something dangerousand so he whips her with a belt
and it's supposed to be so hotto all of these people, like
women, like when they read thebook.
We're like this is so hot inthat same season.
So the very last scene he getshis hand hammered to a table and
then another male inmate, theprison guard, rapes him, for I
(16:26):
think it's seven and a halfminutes long.
I finally was like we get it.
Like oh my God, he's beingraped, we get it.
And these were very attractivemen.
It's not that I was likeoffended by it, I was just more
like this is telling a differentstory.
Now this is a story that ismeant for, you know, like
there's a lot of grandmothersout there that would like this
(16:47):
show, but like this, thisepisode was a like closing point
for them, where they're likethis was ridiculous, it was too
over the top, and it's becausesomebody was like no, we, they
did rape men like this.
This is not about homosexuality, it's about dominance over him,
which I was like fuck off, thatguy wanted to do that guy, and
for seven minutes.
That is just not necessary inany world to me, but if, but I
(17:10):
but I could see it being a filmwhere this person was into
consensual non-consent and youset the whole scene up and you
do the scene and then you findout that it was what that person
was into or that you know.
I because, like again, why arewe showing films where, like,
this guy can whip his woman witha belt and that's okay, cause
it was just she was beingdangerous, she didn't want it at
(17:31):
all, it was definitely notconsensual.
So I mean, it's just a littlestuff like that.
I'm not like a rule follower, Ijust I think that hopefully,
now that we're more open and anewer place, people can't get
away with that so much whereit's like the porn world just
needs to step up and give goodporn films.
But that seems impossible.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Well, but do you?
I guess I have a two-partquestion.
One do you feel like thecurrent rating system and like
like rated R and something thatsays like contains graphic
sexual content, or like TVMA?
You know those ratings don'tcover the things that you're
talking about.
And then two like you know,movies and media are like a
(18:13):
reflection of our own lives andlike messy, terrible, disgusting
things happen in our own lives,like do artists have to limit
how they depict those based onthe fact that it might upset
someone?
Like we run?
into this in stand-up comedy allthe time even.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Totally, totally, totally.
So for the first question, Ithink it would not be hard.
Someone is just typing out forthem to say it's this they're
going to have rape, they'regoing to have spanking, they're
going to have choking, they'regoing to have this.
If you have a problem with anyof it, don't watch this film.
I don't think that's too hardto do and I don't think those
things don't need to be in film.
My issue is if it's notnecessary because, like, let's
say, this guy was paddled by hisuncle when he was 48, the one
(18:54):
that said this is a good idea.
Let's put this in this film,whether that's Corsese or the
writer or whoever decided to addit in when it wasn't in the
book.
You need to find a differentoutlet because it's not adding
to the story and you're nottelling your story here.
You're not telling a storythat's about how that's
inappropriate or that wastraumatic for someone.
This is just like hey, backthen, uncles just paddled their
(19:15):
nephews into their fifties.
I just find that not accurate.
That's not accurate.
Like that feels to me likesomeone took a step.
I don't think they're a badperson.
I'm just like oh, I know whatyou're doing because I read the
book.
There's no spanking in the book.
Why is there spanking all of asudden?
And I'm a spank out Like I livefor that shit.
(19:36):
But I was also like, excuse me,I'd like to talk to someone.
What's happening?
But I don't think artistsshould limit themselves.
If you want to tell your story,tell your story, and I would
love to get with that person andhelp them tell a story that
they want to tell.
But when you put it in, when youpepper it in because you just
want to see it on the big screenor you want to like get it out
(19:56):
there somehow, that's where Ihave a problem.
I don't have a problem with.
This is the story.
This is actually what happened.
But I do think people get awaywith a lot by being like, but I
didn't explicitly say that he'stouching that little girl, I
just, yeah, like Willie'sWonderland, like all of that was
like really like uncomfortablycreepy when deemed after a video
(20:17):
game where there's nopedophilia in the video game
whatsoever.
So why both of these films hadthese really harsh pedophilic
undertones was so interesting tome and again, I'm not judging
them because no kids were harmedin the making of this.
But I didn't sign.
I didn't want to watch a horrorfilm about pedophilia.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
No, thanks, this actually eliminates, like a beef
of mine that I have musicallyin films, because I think it's
like in the same vein where it'slike, like, for example, as
anybody watched the line, thewitch of the wardrobe and Prince
Casper in okay, and Prince.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
It's from like years ago.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
And so that movie is scored by either Harry Grickson,
william or John Williams.
It's really good.
Like the score is incredible.
All the way through I left theline with the wardrobe being
like this is one of my favoritescores of all time.
Prince Casper comes out and I'mlike just so awesome.
This is incredible.
And the very end you know asland returning beautiful,
magical, wonderful things happen.
They have this knockoff TaylorSwift pop songs playing for the
(21:12):
end of it and I'm like what?
I literally stood up in thetheater and it was like why
would you do this to me?
I didn't say that out loud, butwould you do this to me?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Is this like Lady Gaga singing the Top Gun song?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
No, lady Gaga's Top Gun song is fine and so it makes
sense, right, the new versionof Top Gun.
It's cool.
It makes sense to update thetype of thing you do, like what
they did in the Great Gatsby,where they just, like that,
changed it over.
But it feels like what happenedwith Prince Caspian is like
somebody's doing somebody afavor, like the reason that this
is here in front of the screenis to satisfy someone else's
(21:46):
desire not for the creativestory that has nothing to do or
doesn't move anything forward.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Sony was like we'll give you $5.8 million, but
you're going to play this songat the end because we're going
to push this.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
It feels like we're like oh, we're trying to promote
one of our other artists, sowe're going to, you're connected
in and we're going to put it inthere, and so, like I think the
line for me and with whatyou're talking about is like A
yes, I definitely think like theTVMA ratings can have more
things in them.
Like a lot of streamingservices do this on their own
right.
If you watch like Netflix andHulu, they'll have like much
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more specific things likedepictions of gore and sexual
assault and things like that.
They'll add that in thebeginning in their title cards.
It's be easy to do for likemajor films.
And if you're dealing withsource material and you're going
to creatively adapt it to addin these types of things, you
should also say something aboutit.
And I have like a not like youcan't do it, but you know, I
have like a personal quam.
(22:40):
If you're like re-adapting anew a movie and you add that
randomness, in there.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Yeah, I'm not going to like protest or pick it the
film or say that it's not a goodfilm.
I'm just simply saying that whyare we, in 2023, in a place
where this person can't find afilm to work on, where they can
actually put a spanking in thatmakes sense, even if it is
consenting adults?
Like, don't you?
This was just so bizarre to me.
It was really like I wasreaching, I was using all of my
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imagination to be like no, no, Iget it.
Okay, okay, sure, your unclesays bend over and you're like
yeah, okay, it just was likeInteresting when you're talking
about adapting like a book likeyou can.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
you know, an author can dedicate 30 pages to talking
about, like, the inner workingsof the mind and the
relationship between, like adude and his nephew or something
, whereas if you're like, oh no,I really want to show that they
have this really kind of weirdmessed up power dynamic.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Here's how I do that.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Without 30 pages of exposition.
And I also don't think likemaybe in the Prince Caspian or
Lion the Witch in the Wardrobeexample, like a studio can come
in and make those kinds ofdemands, but like I don't think
somebody's just approachingMartin Scorsese on the set and
being like hey, you know whatI'm into spanking.
We should put one of those Likehe is very intentional about.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
True, but this is Leonardo DiCaprio's third film
to be paddled in, and so I'mwondering if the actor himself
was like you know.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Oh, interesting.
Okay, that's a very good pointtoo.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Leo, if you hear this , I'll thank you, call in Leo,
we would all love to spank you.
Go to littlerenegadefilmscom.
Click on podcast.
Click on Dr Dirty To Me.
There's a form at the top.
Fill it out.
Give me your phone number, Iwill show up.
I will spank the ever lovingYou're gonna spank.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
You're really gonna spank.
That's why Leo enjoys beingspanked is because he's like oh,
I have all this young energy inmy life.
I need someone to bury me,listen.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm just saying it'sinteresting to me that that is
the third film he's been paddledin and I yeah you're not wrong,
I just Are the other ones asrandom as this one?
No, they were.
He was a at a prep school inone where he was on all fours
and he was barking like a dogwhile he was being paddled.
He was like a teenager, andthen the other was a mother
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doing it in like a 1950s film.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Like.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Oh, was it De Niro.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I think so.
Oh my God, the slave version ofhim that's like in the mask,
like the one of the openingscenes of where he's like in
there.
I think he gets spanked.
I have to watch it again.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
My head will actually explode.
If that's the case, cause, thenthey're.
They're like, I feel like themystery solved.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
That's the final data point yeah, you really get to
the bottom of this, literallyand figuratively figured it out.
Let's go to.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
TMZ, no Talking about .
So, first of all, it makes alot of at least makes more sense
to me when you oh, and Iunderstood it that what is
happening is you're okay withspanking in film, but why can't
we just make a realistic like?
Why can't it be realistic andlike not really?
Speaker 3 (25:43):
like right and like yes, and, and I don't think that
children get to make anydecisions in film.
I think that's already such atouchy thing.
So if it's a, if it's ahistorical piece where the child
is spanked, I think you willloo to it, I think it's a sound,
I think it's.
I don't think you physicallyput any children in that
position, even if that is reallife, because a as a child, when
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I was spanked, I because I wasa spanko and didn't know how to
explore that that felt wildlytraumatic and wildly like my
body was being violated, and soI just but if it's with adults,
I'm not saying there aren'tinstances out there there's a
film called Cinnamon Out rightnow where they've kidnapped this
girl and it's it's of allthings, I would love to be
(26:27):
spanked by her.
She's such a babe Foxy, she wasso hot, I think she was a Bond
girl, can't think of her namebut she like switches this girl
like she with a willow switchand it's a really intense scene
and I fine, I guess fine, but Istill am like I don't know.
It's just such an interestingchoice for someone to make, like
I bet she goes and she picks awillow switch and she whips this
(26:48):
teenage girl because it's nother mom, it's not her.
This is a captive Like.
They're like gang members thatare like I don't know, it's just
.
I just feel like people dothings to get their jollies in
Hollywood, and that's okay, butI think we have to come to a
place where, like, people aregoing to start figuring it out,
like they're going to startsaying, okay, well, hold on, and
(27:09):
had I never like come out,truly come out of the kink
closet?
I would have been like, oh,they're Danny in the deep blue
sea that plays out Like I amauditioning for that play.
So that's not a great thing,though, because I'm not doing it
, because I want to tell thestory.
I'm like, oh, I get to getspanked on stage every night.
Like there's something falseabout it to me.
There's something like becausethen does the actor I'm doing
that scene with know that I'menjoying every moment of this,
(27:31):
and is that non-consensual tothem?
Like, if they don't know that Ihave this spanking kink, but
I've like auditioned for thisrole, I book it, and every night
I'm like, oh, that was amazing.
I don't know, it's just justthinks.
My brain does, things my brainthinks about.
I just always want to be honestwith that kind of stuff and
there are certain scenes likethat in flowers, whatever, of
the killer moon, where I wasjust like no, I'm so sorry,
(27:54):
that's just, I really tried topull it.
I was like Googling peoplespank their children in their
forties in the 1930s.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
I mean, there are like groups of people now who
engage in like spousal spankingoh for sure, Even in 2023 and
like not from a kink perspective, like from a discipline
perspective.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
So I don't believe that it's not a kink for someone
there.
I don't believe that it's.
You can't convince me that oneor not.
I feel like so sad for the onewho's not who's in it.
That is just like.
No, I deserve this becausethere's also Christian domestic
discipline.
I, but also like I just I justwant everybody to be on board
(28:36):
with what they're doing and notnot offending people, because
again, that scene wasn't gonnalike Traumatize anyone.
I was more like uncomfortableat the thought of Anyone being
that submissive to their uncle,but I was would have been all on
board if I knew that, like bothmen were into it.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Another Kink in film.
Oh my god, I forget the filmand the famous director actor as
a foot fetish and he, nicholasCage, bloodsuckers.
Nicholas Cage no this is adifferent one the one who they
had to pour.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
They had to pour warm .
Speaker 2 (29:08):
No it's all a ceremony in a minute, but we
were watching a vampire film forbloodsuckers, our sister
podcast.
If you're into vampires andvampire films, go check it out.
And there was this.
He, this family, gets kidnappedand there's a daughter, a
younger son and a dad and One ofthe captors and like is it
creepy?
It's a creepy predator for sure.
(29:30):
But there's this one scenewhere he's looking at the
daughter and she they get justget a close-up shot of her feet
and he stares at her feet.
And there's another woman thatthey kidnapped and he's like
comes in on the bed, take offyour shoes.
And like the feet are all overthis film.
And when we read the trivia,it's because this guy has an
actual foot fetish and so he putfeet all up in it.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
It also sounds like he made this captor guy have the
foot fetish he do yeah.
So like to me, that makes itthat like, okay, we've talked
about it, this guy clearly has afoot fetish.
We know what's going on here.
So like I don't have a problemwith that, although I'm they
just randomly stuck foot shotsin it.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
It was there were.
There were several very subtlethings that happened.
It wasn't part of the storyline, the only reason we were both
like it's weird.
They showed a close-up at thatgirl's feet and then later on
we're reading trivia.
We read about how he had a footfetish and stuck it up in there
for no particular reason.
Yeah, let me, I'm gonna.
While we have this conversation, I'm gonna text Sarah Marie and
see if she can.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I actually, I actually have a question.
Give me that information,something I've doodled with
before.
So I would love to hear youknow, go ahead and everybody
sauce on it is because youmentioned like internally having
a kink.
I mean being in a situationwhere, like that kink is
activated and what do I do aboutthe enjoyment of that?
Like today I was getting him amassage with a friend of mine
and it's like a dual-personmassage.
(30:44):
They do acupuncture and she did.
She had done like acupuncturewith electro, like nodes on the
acupuncture, and I have recentlybecome an enjoyer of electro
play.
So like that was happening andI'm getting with size me two
people at the same time and likeI'm actively trying to be like
don't react and so and it's likeso, like I'm definitely Enjoy
(31:06):
it at a non professional level,like I'm not gonna make it
anybody else's problem.
I'm like I'm face down, likeany physical reactions are like
not part of the situation.
If they had asked me to flipover at the time, I would have
been like I require a moment.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I don't want to make people and I don't make people
uncomfortable and all that.
And I'm also dacrophilic, andso that's the one that comes up
the most often dacrophilic, I'msorry you're what turned on by
crying and so like.
So if someone's like Likehaving an emotional moment of
like crying into my shoulder, Iam, you know, I'm compassionate
and doing all the things I'msupposed to, but it is also a
situation that arouses me which,again, I don't make.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
That can you tell me what it is about crying.
That are my investigation.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Well it's.
It mostly has to do with, like,I'm very, very drawn to
Gratitude expressed sexually.
So the storyline in my head ofcomforting a crying person, then
the gratitude for that comfortleads to, leads to like a
internally for that personSatisfying gratitude of like
(32:06):
doing something sexual.
So I just think it's becauseit's like you know, the first
line in the story that arousesme is why tears end up turning
me on and again it's not likeagain, I don't make it anybody
else's problem or issue, andlike people don't deal with it,
like most people don't know thatI'm dacrophilic and like I have
enough Physical control, thatit's like, oh, you know, you're
not gonna catch anything arisingthere and I'm fully fine in
being compassionate about it.
(32:26):
But like is it a crime that itdoes arouse me?
And that's just this mean Ineed to start sprinting when
people cry next.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
No, and I don't think , I don't think I've said that
anything that I've mentionedI've not said.
I don't think these peoplebelong in jail and on the same
foot and in the same kind ofrealm.
I was in the class I think Imaybe told the story in the
podcast before and this teacherGave me the scene of Danny in
the deep blue sea and Iliterally my friend Chelsea, who
knows all about my kink was inthat class, sitting next to me
(32:54):
and she was like, are you okay?
And I was like I'm fine,because it's a table read, we're
not gonna.
This scene is not gonna happen.
This scene happened.
I remember it's a really, reallyintense scene and I remember
out of the corner of my eye,even though I was so into it, I
saw his chair move closer tomine and, sure enough, when that
scene came mind you, I've beenat the studio for seven years, I
have watched so many table read, so they'll be like we kiss
(33:16):
here.
It says we kiss here or I slaphim here.
No one does anything at thetable read.
Sure enough, he threw me overhis knee and spanked me that,
even though I love that that wasI was like I didn't wait or
anything?
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Were you sitting in a chair and he just like you up
and ragged?
All yes.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
And it was where I was like and if I'm gonna like
kiss somebody, we like talkabout it, we like there's that
conversation.
That's an example.
I'll tell you after.
But I think ceremony bothceremony and of course Chelsea
was there, because Chelsea waslike, when I came to sit back
Down she was like are you okay,is it?
You Are you still there?
Like, did you just dissociatecompletely?
Because and I was fine, it wasnot.
(33:52):
I didn't eat therapy afterwards, but I did remember thinking
someone should tell him don'tjust like thank someone, that's
like not okay.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
No, definitely not.
And on top of it.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
At the end, when she, like, gave us our notes or
whatever, he came up to me and Ithought, oh, this is the moment
.
He says I'm so sorry.
And he said put some ice.
And I thought, buddy, if onlyyou knew what I could take.
Your Spanking was nothing, itwas just more of the like this
was so yeah, yeah, this personjust was like I could do this, I
100% could do this, without youknow, seeing if it's okay with
(34:25):
that when it's not real quickand if the answer to this is no,
that's okay.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Do you have a couple minutes of a set sex jokes in it
that you could tell us?
Speaker 4 (34:34):
sure, I guess, yeah, yeah, I don't know how, like how
.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Is that?
We're gonna be like we'll tryit out if it's.
If it's terrible, we'll cut it.
If it's not, if it like doesn'ttranslate Well, if it makes you
feel better, I'll add a laughtrack.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Did you all do any zoom comedy or like zoom
performance?
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Oh my god, I did and it was terrible a whole ass zoom
musical.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Oh I, my friends and I would describe it as the
methadone of comedy.
Oh god Does it?
Speaker 2 (35:03):
just doesn't hit the same, you know stand up did it
and did it, and theater did itas well.
I'm gonna do our playsdigitally.
Do an a?
Yes, I had to do.
I did a run of shows at atheater and then, during the
pandemic, they're like we'regonna do that show on the
computer and I was like I do notconsent.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Are we neither?
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Yeah, so I, as I said before, I like everyone, I'm a
bisexual lady and that meansthat I have a very specific type
and that is people with knuckletattoos, because they look like
they can really finger bang.
You know, right, like if thehamburger helper hand had
(35:45):
knuckle tattoos, I would neverget out of the grocery store.
You know They'd be like faketits, real beef.
You know that's in my head thehamburger helper's knuckle
tattoos would say yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
How's that, does that work?
That was perfect.
That was perfect.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yeah, I was going to ask you, like what?
Is a bit that you have that'slike a sexy bit that you
personally enjoy, but doesn'tlike land well on stage.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
That one, that one I know.
No, really, you guys I havelike big hands, really do it for
me.
I'm sure Stephanie is someonewho enjoys spanking.
You're like big hands and Ilike I'm always very transparent
with people that I feel likefingering is the superior in all
sex act in my humble opinion.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
So Penises are not shaped for that.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
I'm always just like get on the train.
Guys, come on like the fingerbanging train.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
It's pretty great.
It's a good train.
It's good, it's a good trainyeah.
Like yeah, quinn, thank you somuch for coming out and chatting
with us.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
You've been so delightful.
This has been a blast.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah, this conversation has been awesome,
so thank you so much, gwen.
Real quick, before we go, canyou tell us where people can
find you on the internet and inreal life and if you have any
shows coming up?
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Yes, you can find me on my website, gwensunklecom.
I'm on social media atGwendoorwoman, so that's like
Wonder Woman, but like with aGwen and a Juan, and I list all
my show updates there.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Amazing.
Go find her people.
It's fucking funny.
Ladies and gentlemen, ladiesand themsters, sexy beasts out
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We're talking to you, come on.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Come on, ok, yeah, I want to get in here.
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What else?
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Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah, I'll flip your nails everybody.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
I'll see you behind the door.
Bye, bye, you, sexy beasts.
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello all you sexy beasts and welcome back to Talk
Dirty To Me, the podcast where agroup of friends with different
perspectives on kink, fetishand sex talk dirty to one
another.
How's everybody doing today?
Hopefully sexy as fuck.
With me I have Tosin Awoo Fessothe kink-.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Hello Ahoy.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Stephanie Slayton, the queen of spankos.
Oh, how Don't be so excited tobe here.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Stephanie, I'm just, that was just like an old, like
howdy guy, oh howdy.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
KC neighborhood femdom sometimes from time to
time, and our special guest GwenSunkel.
Gwen, how are you doing today?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Hi, I am doing so well.
I am thrilled to be here withy'all and I have to say, KC, you
have a very sexy voice.
Oh, thank you.
Very great podcasting voice.
Thanks, Trulite.
Yeah, I would say I have theface for radio, but you really
have the voice for it, so that'sgood.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Maybe one day somebody will want my sexy
podcast voice on theircommercial.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I want it right now.
I'll make a book commercialtomorrow.
Right now I'm gonna do it.
Can you do?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
it, can you do it?
Gwen?
You're a comedian yes, I am,tell me yeah and also a
character actor yes, yeah, canyou tell me a little bit?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
about your history and your bio.
Yeah, yeah, so I live inIndianapolis.
I started doing stand-up comedyabout eight years ago by trade.
I'm a nurse practitioner and Iam about to put out a special
Comes out drops December 1st.
So if y'all want to see me andwatch me, you can see that
coming out on December 1st on myYouTube channel and I love
traveling all around to tell thefunnies and laugh at all the
(01:57):
things we shouldn't laugh at,right?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, I love it, and I didn't know you're a nurse
practitioner.
That's also very exciting.
Yeah, I guess yeah.
I'm excited to have you therebecause I am also a female
shocker and a comedian as well,so yeah, so I'm really looking
forward to chatting with youabout being a woman in comedy
and sex and how it all blendstogether.
Tosin's also a comedian.
Stephanie is an actor as well.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Love it.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I'm all in the same pond here.
We're amongst friends.
We're amongst friends.
Yeah, so real quick when wedive in.
Are you at all kinky?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yeah, I would say so.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Tell me all about it.
What's your kink?
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I mean, I don't know that I have any one that I'm
very specific for, but I do lovesubmissive stuff, because it's
that old trope that it's likeugh, I'm so in charge and have
to make a lot of decisions andI'm responsible for a lot of
stuff during the day, so I wouldlove if somebody would just
come in and take that all off myplate while I'm having sexy
(02:55):
time.
But I also really enjoy makingfun of men and bossing them
around, and it's that you knowget sexy and fine with that as
well.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
So it sounds like you are on both sides of the slash
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I would say I just the thing Ilove about kink is just the
level of excitement that itbrings to sex, and I know you're
like, oh to sex need to be moreexciting.
And it's like yeah, we'replaying with it.
It's a fantasy, we're havingfun.
You know, like, if that's whatyou want to do, then there's
(03:28):
nothing.
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, do you have play partners, or is it
something you just enact withpartner partners?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
I don't have any current play partners, but I
have in the past, yeah, and soit's been like a fun dynamic One
of my favorite partners.
We would like switch mid-scene,kind of who was doming or
whatever, which was the mostdelightful thing, because it
would be kind of like, okay, tagout, I can't.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I can't be in charge anymore.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Nice, I'm spent.
I need you to make thedecisions.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
When you die, I'm going to untie you.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
And then let's just pick up where we left off, but
with reverse roles.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Yeah, I'm going to emotionally starfish this.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
That's fantastic.
And your relationship stylings.
Are you Polly?
Are you monogamous?
Are you non-anogamous?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Non-anogamous.
Yeah, I just, I wish single butnon-monogamous.
So, which always makes you feelreally good, right?
You're like I'm open toeveryone, I'm open to more than
one, everyone.
So where are they?
Speaker 5 (04:24):
I will accept anything.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Yes, yes, but yet here I am.
Maybe that's the, maybe that'smy problem, maybe it's like too
broad you know people are likeafraid to touch it because it's
too much.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
But I don't know.
I have you said sometimes I'mopen to everything and sometimes
I'm not.
But no matter what I do, I findmost often that what I end up
with is fuck boys and that'sthey're, they're so everywhere.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
They're so everywhere .
Speaker 4 (04:48):
I also say too I also say too, I don't know if y'all
run into this as likeentertainers, but, like I said,
you know the time that I wouldhave to put toward a
relationship I am putting towardperforming Like I'm dating
stand up comedy.
You know like yeah, and you canlike.
Sometimes you meet people whoare like starting stand up and
things like that and you cantell like, oh, they're just
(05:11):
doing this, like in betweengirlfriends you know, it's just
like the surrogate partnerbetween human partners is stand
up comedy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like well, I don't haveanybody to go on a day with
tonight, so I guess I'll go toan open mic and practice these
dick and fart jokes.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Oh my God, that's hilarious.
Yeah, are you?
So you've been doing comedy foreight years and you okay.
So let's talk about being awoman in comedy.
Let's do it?
I find that it is.
I mean, it's obviously maledominated.
We've all watched the MarvelousMs Mazewell.
Do you find that?
Speaker 4 (05:44):
I couldn't watch it.
I gotta be honest.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Really, why tell me everything?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Because I know how the sausage is made Like you
know it's it's.
I also like can't watch amedical drama because I'm like
that's not real.
Yeah, I like you can't watchGrey's Anatomy.
Come on, are you kidding?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
me?
Yeah, that's fair.
Have you found that?
Do you feel like?
I don't know?
This question might be clichethat it's been.
You could do it.
As a woman has been moredifficult to try to rise within
the industry.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Oh my God, yeah, like I was prepared, prepared for it
to be like a boys club, but Iwas not prepared for how much of
a boys club.
You know, yeah, I was like Ithought I was going in eyes wide
open, but still no it's, yeah,there's, there's like so many
dynamics about it, but yeah, no,I definitely feel that harder,
(06:32):
it's hard, yeah, it's harder forwomen to excel.
I feel like women will like getone chance, or like two chances
, and if they don't knock it outof the park on that like one
big chance, it's like, oh well,she's not ready, you know, but
like guys can go up there andyou know, not do their best over
and over and over again, andeveryone still like, books them
(06:53):
and and engages with them andeverything.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, that sounds right.
Oh yeah, oh for sure.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I've I've had several male stand up comic friends
trying to make it, who are justbad.
It's just like you're not,you're not fine.
How do you keep getting prettydecent slots at these places?
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Yeah, I usually say that that's it's probably a
thing where it's like all had nocowboy.
You know, it's like they're agood hang, they're like fun hang
out with.
They have weed, they you knowwhat for what you know.
Something else is like keepingthem in the door you know, is it
their dick holding the door.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
It's a doorstopper.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Yeah, it's like a doorstop.
Yeah, if the dicks and comedywere that big, we would all be
having a different podcast rightnow, I think.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
And you talk about sex a lot in comedy.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Yeah, yeah, Just because I think it's like
relatable, I guess yeah,everybody, everybody has sex.
And well, not everybody, butmany, many people have sex and
many people have they.
Don't laugh about it enough,you know, we're not willing.
We're not willing to like besilly about it.
We think like that being sexymeans being serious, and I don't
(08:02):
think that's necessarily or not, the best way to approach every
woman queefs after doggie style.
Right, right, sorry Before,during, after it's the cherry on
top of that position.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, Like that's how you know you did it right you
know I worn all the cunnilingualconnoisseurs in their lifetime
and I'm like listen, orgasmscause, you know, contractions,
tensions and then relaxations.
Be prepared to be farted in theface of okay, it's going to
happen, yeah, don't make it athing.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
You right, yeah.
Or if you're going to like,make it a thing, don't like
embarrass somebody about it,unless they're like that True.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Have you ever heard of?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
somebody like with a humiliation kink, who like
someone making them do stand upcomedy, not a stand up comedy.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
You know, I enjoy, I enjoy being animated, but I
don't think anyone's cleverlybeen that creative.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I was like all right that's, you know what stage you
should go on stage, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
That is a great humiliation for somebody.
Holy shit, especially ifthey're not a comedian.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Yeah, so there was actually this sorority here in
town who, like if somebody Idon't know got in trouble or
they were like punished amongtheir like punishment was that
they had to sign up to do theopen mic at the comedy club in
our town.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Oh my, God, that's fantastic.
What a punish, yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
And I'm like, I'm so glad that my life's dream is
going to shit.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Really quick before we divert too far from it.
I wanted to share this storywhen, tosen, you were talking
about contracting and relaxingand things that happened.
So I went to bedpostconfessions with a just a
storytelling show here in Austin, texas, that talks about, you
know, things that are a littlemore sex related and they do
these confessions.
So when you come in as theaudience you can fill out a
confession card it's anonymousand then they read them between
(09:41):
storytellers and they just yeah,they read like whatever
somebody confessed and one of myfavorite confessions.
So this is somebody else'sconfession that I heard at
bedpost confessions.
She was talking about how thisguy was going down on her and it
was incredible and she'd neverexperienced just pleasure from
receiving head and she wasenjoying it fully and all of a
sudden she farted and she wasmortified.
(10:03):
But before she get to sayanything, the gentleman lifted
up his finger, put it to herbutthole and said shh, that's
the man of the cloth.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Gentlemen, oh my God.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Mary, that man.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
So have you found that when you talk about sex
during your sets, the audienceis receptive to it, or do they
have to warm up to it?
Speaker 4 (10:24):
I think it's better if, like, I warm up to it a
little bit, it's I, or if I'mdoing like a really short set,
if I'm doing like seven minutesor something, then it's like I
almost want the whole thing tobe about sex.
Sometimes that's like thebetter way to go, as opposed to
just sprinkling it in here there.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do you ever do comedy aboutKing stuff?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Not really.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
How about y'all?
No, I've not had theopportunity yet.
Yeah, yeah, I do mostly improvand then I haven't done a show
in a really long time because ofthe pandemic, and I did it for
20 years before that.
So after the pandemic I waslike I'm good.
Good on that.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I'm good on that, but I would now yeah, I have to be,
because this podcast camearound after the pandemic, so it
never the twain.
The two paths have not crossedyet, but we'll see.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Yeah, one thing, not a comedian, but I think it's
time.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I like that encouragement.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
What's Stephanie?
Yeah, agreed, I'm not acomedian, but I find it creeping
up in my work like writing andstuff.
I feel like King Rear's it said.
Now, you know, ever since I'vekind of come out of the King
closet and done this podcast andwhatnot, I find it all over now
.
Now I see it even in films I'mwatching, where I'm like, excuse
me, that wasn't in the book.
Oh, someone on set definitelyhad that kink.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Like what's an example?
I want to know.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
For instance, killers of the Flower Moon is a new
Scorsese film that's out rightnow and Robert De Niro plays
Leonardo DiCaprio's uncle.
And Leonardo DiCaprio is 48years old and he takes a
paddling from his uncle andthat's not in the book and sure
I know that people did reallycrazy things back then.
I don't know in what world a 48year old man lets his uncle
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paddle him.
So for me that was someone onset who's like I know what we
should do here and I have lotsof feelings about that because
that's non-consensual to theaudience and weird.
Just make a just make a f**kingspanking film or don't because
I wait.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Do you think, do you feel like that no Kings can be
in film because the audiencedidn't consent to see them?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I think that a lot of people do put that stuff in.
Five Nights at Freddy's andWilly's Wonderland are
essentially the same film.
They couldn't be named the samething, but they're after this
game called Five Nights atFreddy's.
There's no pedophilia anywhere.
There's pedophilia throughoutboth of these films, from the
very beginning to the very end.
It's stuff that I feel likepeople can't help, the kinks
they have.
(12:36):
They find creative ways to putthem in and the artists were
consensual.
If it wasn't in the book, whyall of a sudden is it in the
film?
And if anything, it was alittle bit jolting where even my
spanko friends were like I was,my jaw was on the floor because
it's kind of.
It's just a weird predicament.
What world in what world?
(12:58):
And so you know, I mean I am astickler for like consent and I
do feel like that's beenhappening since, like I was a
kid in films with like, wherekids would get spanked on screen
.
I think that there's some, Ithink there's some weird
bleeding over and you know Ialso have empathy for the fact
that it was not.
You know, these people didn'tknow what to do with it.
So they're in the film world,they throw in what they like,
(13:19):
fine.
I mean the Nickelodeon guy whowas like the head of all the kid
shows.
Every one of those kid shows,the kids take their shoes off
and their feet are all in thecamera and you know, come to
find out this guy had a majorfoot fetish, which fine.
But with kids, come on Hello.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah.
But that's just my judgey, Ithink if you are doing source
material that people will expectare expecting a certain thing
and then surprising them withkinky things, then you should
let them know.
Like it'd be weird if BraveLittle Toaster was readapted and
you know, the vacuum cleanerwas like choking people with his
wires just because somebodylike they had a choking kick.
(13:55):
I was like you did something.
You did something new there.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
The Brave Little Toaster was already upsetting
enough.
Okay, we don't need.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I just really watched it and I'm just like this movie
is rough.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Who is that movie for ?
It's so upsetting, don't watchit.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
It's really upsetting .
It takes you on a rollercoaster.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
It's Wally bad it does it's Wally bad oh?
No, go ahead, so we go on youfirst you first Like do you
think that in Killers of theFlower Moon that was like meant
to be sexual?
Or do you think like any timetwo adults are like engaging in
a spanking thing, there's likeno, I don't think that.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
I don't think that it was sexual in what for anyone
watching it, unless they were aspanko who enjoys male and male
spanking, which I do.
But I don't like it in my facewhen I'm not ready for it,
because I'm also an analyticalperson and I really care about
script and story and you reallyhave to keep me on track if I'm
going to watch a three hourgoddamn film and I missed like
(14:53):
20 minutes after because I waslike what just happened?
Because I read the book and Iwas, I mean, hello, I would have
been first in line to see thisfilm, had it, you know, been in
the book and I was excited forit and show this to me.
But I was like this I'm stilllike what just happened?
What right now just happened.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
So I have to be like the weird devils.
I'm here and say that it's.
I can't imagine a world whereyou have to consent to
everything that happens in film,because so much bad shit
happens in film.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
For sure.
But that's why the worlds of,in my opinion, porn and film
should not be so polarized.
And oh, it's a porno Like thereshould be, just like there's TV
MA and all these differentwarnings for violence and all of
that stuff.
You at least know that that'scoming.
I just think that things likewe're at a place in the world
(15:42):
where we know that people aretriggered, we know that there's
PTSD, that intense rape sceneswill never be necessary to me.
In a film you can allude to it,you can absolutely say that
this is what happened.
But I think that when there'slike a like, for instance, in
Cessna Neck, what's the show?
They're in Scotland and shetime travels, anyway, there's a,
there's a non-consensual therecould prop there's probably one
(16:06):
in that too.
But there's a non-consensualspanking in this because she
like does something dangerousand so he whips her with a belt
and it's supposed to be so hotto all of these people, like
women, like when they read thebook.
We're like this is so hot inthat same season.
So the very last scene he getshis hand hammered to a table and
then another male inmate, theprison guard, rapes him, for I
(16:26):
think it's seven and a halfminutes long.
I finally was like we get it.
Like oh my God, he's beingraped, we get it.
And these were very attractivemen.
It's not that I was likeoffended by it, I was just more
like this is telling a differentstory.
Now this is a story that ismeant for, you know, like
there's a lot of grandmothersout there that would like this
(16:47):
show, but like this, thisepisode was a like closing point
for them, where they're likethis was ridiculous, it was too
over the top, and it's becausesomebody was like no, we, they
did rape men like this.
This is not about homosexuality, it's about dominance over him,
which I was like fuck off, thatguy wanted to do that guy, and
for seven minutes.
That is just not necessary inany world to me, but if, but I
(17:10):
but I could see it being a filmwhere this person was into
consensual non-consent and youset the whole scene up and you
do the scene and then you findout that it was what that person
was into or that you know.
I because, like again, why arewe showing films where, like,
this guy can whip his woman witha belt and that's okay, cause
it was just she was beingdangerous, she didn't want it at
(17:31):
all, it was definitely notconsensual.
So I mean, it's just a littlestuff like that.
I'm not like a rule follower, Ijust I think that hopefully,
now that we're more open and anewer place, people can't get
away with that so much whereit's like the porn world just
needs to step up and give goodporn films.
But that seems impossible.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Well, but do you?
I guess I have a two-partquestion.
One do you feel like thecurrent rating system and like
like rated R and something thatsays like contains graphic
sexual content, or like TVMA?
You know those ratings don'tcover the things that you're
talking about.
And then two like you know,movies and media are like a
(18:13):
reflection of our own lives andlike messy, terrible, disgusting
things happen in our own lives,like do artists have to limit
how they depict those based onthe fact that it might upset
someone?
Like we run?
into this in stand-up comedy allthe time even.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Totally, totally, totally.
So for the first question, Ithink it would not be hard.
Someone is just typing out forthem to say it's this they're
going to have rape, they'regoing to have spanking, they're
going to have choking, they'regoing to have this.
If you have a problem with anyof it, don't watch this film.
I don't think that's too hardto do and I don't think those
things don't need to be in film.
My issue is if it's notnecessary because, like, let's
say, this guy was paddled by hisuncle when he was 48, the one
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that said this is a good idea.
Let's put this in this film,whether that's Corsese or the
writer or whoever decided to addit in when it wasn't in the
book.
You need to find a differentoutlet because it's not adding
to the story and you're nottelling your story here.
You're not telling a storythat's about how that's
inappropriate or that wastraumatic for someone.
This is just like hey, backthen, uncles just paddled their
(19:15):
nephews into their fifties.
I just find that not accurate.
That's not accurate.
Like that feels to me likesomeone took a step.
I don't think they're a badperson.
I'm just like oh, I know whatyou're doing because I read the
book.
There's no spanking in the book.
Why is there spanking all of asudden?
And I'm a spank out Like I livefor that shit.
(19:36):
But I was also like, excuse me,I'd like to talk to someone.
What's happening?
But I don't think artistsshould limit themselves.
If you want to tell your story,tell your story, and I would
love to get with that person andhelp them tell a story that
they want to tell.
But when you put it in, when youpepper it in because you just
want to see it on the big screenor you want to like get it out
(19:56):
there somehow, that's where Ihave a problem.
I don't have a problem with.
This is the story.
This is actually what happened.
But I do think people get awaywith a lot by being like, but I
didn't explicitly say that he'stouching that little girl, I
just, yeah, like Willie'sWonderland, like all of that was
like really like uncomfortablycreepy when deemed after a video
(20:17):
game where there's nopedophilia in the video game
whatsoever.
So why both of these films hadthese really harsh pedophilic
undertones was so interesting tome and again, I'm not judging
them because no kids were harmedin the making of this.
But I didn't sign.
I didn't want to watch a horrorfilm about pedophilia.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
No, thanks, this actually eliminates, like a beef
of mine that I have musicallyin films, because I think it's
like in the same vein where it'slike, like, for example, as
anybody watched the line, thewitch of the wardrobe and Prince
Casper in okay, and Prince.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
It's from like years ago.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
And so that movie is scored by either Harry Grickson,
william or John Williams.
It's really good.
Like the score is incredible.
All the way through I left theline with the wardrobe being
like this is one of my favoritescores of all time.
Prince Casper comes out and I'mlike just so awesome.
This is incredible.
And the very end you know asland returning beautiful,
magical, wonderful things happen.
They have this knockoff TaylorSwift pop songs playing for the
(21:12):
end of it and I'm like what?
I literally stood up in thetheater and it was like why
would you do this to me?
I didn't say that out loud, butwould you do this to me?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Is this like Lady Gaga singing the Top Gun song?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
No, lady Gaga's Top Gun song is fine and so it makes
sense, right, the new versionof Top Gun.
It's cool.
It makes sense to update thetype of thing you do, like what
they did in the Great Gatsby,where they just, like that,
changed it over.
But it feels like what happenedwith Prince Caspian is like
somebody's doing somebody afavor, like the reason that this
is here in front of the screenis to satisfy someone else's
(21:46):
desire not for the creativestory that has nothing to do or
doesn't move anything forward.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Sony was like we'll give you $5.8 million, but
you're going to play this songat the end because we're going
to push this.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
It feels like we're like oh, we're trying to promote
one of our other artists, sowe're going to, you're connected
in and we're going to put it inthere, and so, like I think the
line for me and with whatyou're talking about is like A
yes, I definitely think like theTVMA ratings can have more
things in them.
Like a lot of streamingservices do this on their own
right.
If you watch like Netflix andHulu, they'll have like much
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more specific things likedepictions of gore and sexual
assault and things like that.
They'll add that in thebeginning in their title cards.
It's be easy to do for likemajor films.
And if you're dealing withsource material and you're going
to creatively adapt it to addin these types of things, you
should also say something aboutit.
And I have like a not like youcan't do it, but you know, I
have like a personal quam.
(22:40):
If you're like re-adapting anew a movie and you add that
randomness, in there.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Yeah, I'm not going to like protest or pick it the
film or say that it's not a goodfilm.
I'm just simply saying that whyare we, in 2023, in a place
where this person can't find afilm to work on, where they can
actually put a spanking in thatmakes sense, even if it is
consenting adults?
Like, don't you?
This was just so bizarre to me.
It was really like I wasreaching, I was using all of my
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imagination to be like no, no, Iget it.
Okay, okay, sure, your unclesays bend over and you're like
yeah, okay, it just was likeInteresting when you're talking
about adapting like a book likeyou can.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
you know, an author can dedicate 30 pages to talking
about, like, the inner workingsof the mind and the
relationship between, like adude and his nephew or something
, whereas if you're like, oh no,I really want to show that they
have this really kind of weirdmessed up power dynamic.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Here's how I do that.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Without 30 pages of exposition.
And I also don't think likemaybe in the Prince Caspian or
Lion the Witch in the Wardrobeexample, like a studio can come
in and make those kinds ofdemands, but like I don't think
somebody's just approachingMartin Scorsese on the set and
being like hey, you know whatI'm into spanking.
We should put one of those Likehe is very intentional about.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
True, but this is Leonardo DiCaprio's third film
to be paddled in, and so I'mwondering if the actor himself
was like you know.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Oh, interesting.
Okay, that's a very good pointtoo.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Leo, if you hear this , I'll thank you, call in Leo,
we would all love to spank you.
Go to littlerenegadefilmscom.
Click on podcast.
Click on Dr Dirty To Me.
There's a form at the top.
Fill it out.
Give me your phone number, Iwill show up.
I will spank the ever lovingYou're gonna spank.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
You're really gonna spank.
That's why Leo enjoys beingspanked is because he's like oh,
I have all this young energy inmy life.
I need someone to bury me,listen.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm just saying it'sinteresting to me that that is
the third film he's been paddledin and I yeah you're not wrong,
I just Are the other ones asrandom as this one?
No, they were.
He was a at a prep school inone where he was on all fours
and he was barking like a dogwhile he was being paddled.
He was like a teenager, andthen the other was a mother
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doing it in like a 1950s film.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Like.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Oh, was it De Niro.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I think so.
Oh my God, the slave version ofhim that's like in the mask,
like the one of the openingscenes of where he's like in
there.
I think he gets spanked.
I have to watch it again.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
My head will actually explode.
If that's the case, cause, thenthey're.
They're like, I feel like themystery solved.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
That's the final data point yeah, you really get to
the bottom of this, literallyand figuratively figured it out.
Let's go to.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
TMZ, no Talking about .
So, first of all, it makes alot of at least makes more sense
to me when you oh, and Iunderstood it that what is
happening is you're okay withspanking in film, but why can't
we just make a realistic like?
Why can't it be realistic andlike not really?
Speaker 3 (25:43):
like right and like yes, and, and I don't think that
children get to make anydecisions in film.
I think that's already such atouchy thing.
So if it's a, if it's ahistorical piece where the child
is spanked, I think you willloo to it, I think it's a sound,
I think it's.
I don't think you physicallyput any children in that
position, even if that is reallife, because a as a child, when
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I was spanked, I because I wasa spanko and didn't know how to
explore that that felt wildlytraumatic and wildly like my
body was being violated, and soI just but if it's with adults,
I'm not saying there aren'tinstances out there there's a
film called Cinnamon Out rightnow where they've kidnapped this
girl and it's it's of allthings, I would love to be
(26:27):
spanked by her.
She's such a babe Foxy, she wasso hot, I think she was a Bond
girl, can't think of her namebut she like switches this girl
like she with a willow switchand it's a really intense scene
and I fine, I guess fine, but Istill am like I don't know.
It's just such an interestingchoice for someone to make, like
I bet she goes and she picks awillow switch and she whips this
(26:48):
teenage girl because it's nother mom, it's not her.
This is a captive Like.
They're like gang members thatare like I don't know, it's just
.
I just feel like people dothings to get their jollies in
Hollywood, and that's okay, butI think we have to come to a
place where, like, people aregoing to start figuring it out,
like they're going to startsaying, okay, well, hold on, and
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had I never like come out,truly come out of the kink
closet?
I would have been like, oh,they're Danny in the deep blue
sea that plays out Like I amauditioning for that play.
So that's not a great thing,though, because I'm not doing it
, because I want to tell thestory.
I'm like, oh, I get to getspanked on stage every night.
Like there's something falseabout it to me.
There's something like becausethen does the actor I'm doing
that scene with know that I'menjoying every moment of this,
(27:31):
and is that non-consensual tothem?
Like, if they don't know that Ihave this spanking kink, but
I've like auditioned for thisrole, I book it, and every night
I'm like, oh, that was amazing.
I don't know, it's just justthinks.
My brain does, things my brainthinks about.
I just always want to be honestwith that kind of stuff and
there are certain scenes likethat in flowers, whatever, of
the killer moon, where I wasjust like no, I'm so sorry,
(27:54):
that's just, I really tried topull it.
I was like Googling peoplespank their children in their
forties in the 1930s.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
I mean, there are like groups of people now who
engage in like spousal spankingoh for sure, Even in 2023 and
like not from a kink perspective, like from a discipline
perspective.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
So I don't believe that it's not a kink for someone
there.
I don't believe that it's.
You can't convince me that oneor not.
I feel like so sad for the onewho's not who's in it.
That is just like.
No, I deserve this becausethere's also Christian domestic
discipline.
I, but also like I just I justwant everybody to be on board
(28:36):
with what they're doing and notnot offending people, because
again, that scene wasn't gonnalike Traumatize anyone.
I was more like uncomfortableat the thought of Anyone being
that submissive to their uncle,but I was would have been all on
board if I knew that, like bothmen were into it.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Another Kink in film.
Oh my god, I forget the filmand the famous director actor as
a foot fetish and he, nicholasCage, bloodsuckers.
Nicholas Cage no this is adifferent one the one who they
had to pour.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
They had to pour warm .
Speaker 2 (29:08):
No it's all a ceremony in a minute, but we
were watching a vampire film forbloodsuckers, our sister
podcast.
If you're into vampires andvampire films, go check it out.
And there was this.
He, this family, gets kidnappedand there's a daughter, a
younger son and a dad and One ofthe captors and like is it
creepy?
It's a creepy predator for sure.
(29:30):
But there's this one scenewhere he's looking at the
daughter and she they get justget a close-up shot of her feet
and he stares at her feet.
And there's another woman thatthey kidnapped and he's like
comes in on the bed, take offyour shoes.
And like the feet are all overthis film.
And when we read the trivia,it's because this guy has an
actual foot fetish and so he putfeet all up in it.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
It also sounds like he made this captor guy have the
foot fetish he do yeah.
So like to me, that makes itthat like, okay, we've talked
about it, this guy clearly has afoot fetish.
We know what's going on here.
So like I don't have a problemwith that, although I'm they
just randomly stuck foot shotsin it.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
It was there were.
There were several very subtlethings that happened.
It wasn't part of the storyline, the only reason we were both
like it's weird.
They showed a close-up at thatgirl's feet and then later on
we're reading trivia.
We read about how he had a footfetish and stuck it up in there
for no particular reason.
Yeah, let me, I'm gonna.
While we have this conversation, I'm gonna text Sarah Marie and
see if she can.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I actually, I actually have a question.
Give me that information,something I've doodled with
before.
So I would love to hear youknow, go ahead and everybody
sauce on it is because youmentioned like internally having
a kink.
I mean being in a situationwhere, like that kink is
activated and what do I do aboutthe enjoyment of that?
Like today I was getting him amassage with a friend of mine
and it's like a dual-personmassage.
(30:44):
They do acupuncture and she did.
She had done like acupuncturewith electro, like nodes on the
acupuncture, and I have recentlybecome an enjoyer of electro
play.
So like that was happening andI'm getting with size me two
people at the same time and likeI'm actively trying to be like
don't react and so and it's likeso, like I'm definitely Enjoy
(31:06):
it at a non professional level,like I'm not gonna make it
anybody else's problem.
I'm like I'm face down, likeany physical reactions are like
not part of the situation.
If they had asked me to flipover at the time, I would have
been like I require a moment.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I don't want to make people and I don't make people
uncomfortable and all that.
And I'm also dacrophilic, andso that's the one that comes up
the most often dacrophilic, I'msorry you're what turned on by
crying and so like.
So if someone's like Likehaving an emotional moment of
like crying into my shoulder, Iam, you know, I'm compassionate
and doing all the things I'msupposed to, but it is also a
situation that arouses me which,again, I don't make.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
That can you tell me what it is about crying.
That are my investigation.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Well it's.
It mostly has to do with, like,I'm very, very drawn to
Gratitude expressed sexually.
So the storyline in my head ofcomforting a crying person, then
the gratitude for that comfortleads to, leads to like a
internally for that personSatisfying gratitude of like
(32:06):
doing something sexual.
So I just think it's becauseit's like you know, the first
line in the story that arousesme is why tears end up turning
me on and again it's not likeagain, I don't make it anybody
else's problem or issue, andlike people don't deal with it,
like most people don't know thatI'm dacrophilic and like I have
enough Physical control, thatit's like, oh, you know, you're
not gonna catch anything arisingthere and I'm fully fine in
being compassionate about it.
(32:26):
But like is it a crime that itdoes arouse me?
And that's just this mean Ineed to start sprinting when
people cry next.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
No, and I don't think , I don't think I've said that
anything that I've mentionedI've not said.
I don't think these peoplebelong in jail and on the same
foot and in the same kind ofrealm.
I was in the class I think Imaybe told the story in the
podcast before and this teacherGave me the scene of Danny in
the deep blue sea and Iliterally my friend Chelsea, who
knows all about my kink was inthat class, sitting next to me
(32:54):
and she was like, are you okay?
And I was like I'm fine,because it's a table read, we're
not gonna.
This scene is not gonna happen.
This scene happened.
I remember it's a really, reallyintense scene and I remember
out of the corner of my eye,even though I was so into it, I
saw his chair move closer tomine and, sure enough, when that
scene came mind you, I've beenat the studio for seven years, I
have watched so many table read, so they'll be like we kiss
(33:16):
here.
It says we kiss here or I slaphim here.
No one does anything at thetable read.
Sure enough, he threw me overhis knee and spanked me that,
even though I love that that wasI was like I didn't wait or
anything?
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Were you sitting in a chair and he just like you up
and ragged?
All yes.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
And it was where I was like and if I'm gonna like
kiss somebody, we like talkabout it, we like there's that
conversation.
That's an example.
I'll tell you after.
But I think ceremony bothceremony and of course Chelsea
was there, because Chelsea waslike, when I came to sit back
Down she was like are you okay,is it?
You Are you still there?
Like, did you just dissociatecompletely?
Because and I was fine, it wasnot.
(33:52):
I didn't eat therapy afterwards, but I did remember thinking
someone should tell him don'tjust like thank someone, that's
like not okay.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
No, definitely not.
And on top of it.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
At the end, when she, like, gave us our notes or
whatever, he came up to me and Ithought, oh, this is the moment
.
He says I'm so sorry.
And he said put some ice.
And I thought, buddy, if onlyyou knew what I could take.
Your Spanking was nothing, itwas just more of the like this
was so yeah, yeah, this personjust was like I could do this, I
100% could do this, without youknow, seeing if it's okay with
(34:25):
that when it's not real quickand if the answer to this is no,
that's okay.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Do you have a couple minutes of a set sex jokes in it
that you could tell us?
Speaker 4 (34:34):
sure, I guess, yeah, yeah, I don't know how, like how
.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Is that?
We're gonna be like we'll tryit out if it's.
If it's terrible, we'll cut it.
If it's not, if it like doesn'ttranslate Well, if it makes you
feel better, I'll add a laughtrack.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Did you all do any zoom comedy or like zoom
performance?
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Oh my god, I did and it was terrible a whole ass zoom
musical.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Oh I, my friends and I would describe it as the
methadone of comedy.
Oh god Does it?
Speaker 2 (35:03):
just doesn't hit the same, you know stand up did it
and did it, and theater did itas well.
I'm gonna do our playsdigitally.
Do an a?
Yes, I had to do.
I did a run of shows at atheater and then, during the
pandemic, they're like we'regonna do that show on the
computer and I was like I do notconsent.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Are we neither?
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Yeah, so I, as I said before, I like everyone, I'm a
bisexual lady and that meansthat I have a very specific type
and that is people with knuckletattoos, because they look like
they can really finger bang.
You know, right, like if thehamburger helper hand had
(35:45):
knuckle tattoos, I would neverget out of the grocery store.
You know They'd be like faketits, real beef.
You know that's in my head thehamburger helper's knuckle
tattoos would say yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
How's that, does that work?
That was perfect.
That was perfect.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yeah, I was going to ask you, like what?
Is a bit that you have that'slike a sexy bit that you
personally enjoy, but doesn'tlike land well on stage.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
That one, that one I know.
No, really, you guys I havelike big hands, really do it for
me.
I'm sure Stephanie is someonewho enjoys spanking.
You're like big hands and Ilike I'm always very transparent
with people that I feel likefingering is the superior in all
sex act in my humble opinion.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
So Penises are not shaped for that.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
I'm always just like get on the train.
Guys, come on like the fingerbanging train.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
It's pretty great.
It's a good train.
It's good, it's a good trainyeah.
Like yeah, quinn, thank you somuch for coming out and chatting
with us.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
You've been so delightful.
This has been a blast.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah, this conversation has been awesome,
so thank you so much, gwen.
Real quick, before we go, canyou tell us where people can
find you on the internet and inreal life and if you have any
shows coming up?
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Yes, you can find me on my website, gwensunklecom.
I'm on social media atGwendoorwoman, so that's like
Wonder Woman, but like with aGwen and a Juan, and I list all
my show updates there.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Amazing.
Go find her people.
It's fucking funny.
Ladies and gentlemen, ladiesand themsters, sexy beasts out
there, Don't forget about theform I pitched at the beginning
or sometime in the middle ofthis podcast.
If you have something you wantus to talk about, or if you
don't know, I guess it would beawesome Go click that form, fill
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I will read it and do stuffwith it.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
We're talking to you, come on.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Come on, ok, yeah, I want to get in here.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
What else?
And we have a page.
Link is in the show notes.
If you want to help support us,make talk dirty, do me better.
We would love your patronage.
And until next time, everybody,let's all finger bang.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah, I'll flip your nails everybody.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
I'll see you behind the door.
Bye, bye, you, sexy beasts.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
Bye, that's hilarious Talk.
Dirty to Me is a podcast byLittle Renegade Films.
It stars Sarah Marie Currie,Casey Sammie Casey why do you
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While you do it.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Do I no, why don't you?
Speaker 5 (38:09):
Oh, why don't I?
Yeah, like you, remember howyou read your synopsis and you
say oh, you want me to do itlike that.
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