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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Well, well, well, go
ahead and open up your ears,
your mind and whatever else youneed.
You're listening to Talk DirtyTo Me.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hello all you sexy
beasts, and welcome back to Talk
Dirty to Me, the podcast wherea handful of friends with a
handful of differentperspectives talk dirty to one
another about kink, fetish andsex.
And today we have with us myfavorite guest of all time to
date.
I'm going to say that, butfirst also, we have Tosin
Aoufesso, or Kink Oracle.
Ahoy, we have me, casey, yourneighborhood femdom.
(00:45):
And okay, if you've listened topast episodes, you've heard me
say things likena-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na
, my friend Aaron,na-na-na-na-na-na, or
blah-blah-blah-blah Aaron toldme this thing or
blah-blah-blah-blah me.
And Well, the man behind themask is revealed.
Ladies and gentlemen, finallythe long awaited episode.
(01:06):
Say hello Aaron.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Long time listener,
first time caller, exciting to
be here.
That is quite a lot to live upto.
But man, have I been lookingforward to this?
Yeah, it's been.
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He's just reckless.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
But my kink journey
and Aaron's kink journey kind of
started about the same time,started about the same time.
So we have had a lovelyexperience like going down that
road together and then sharingstories and swapping information
and like spilling the tea toone another, like before I could
do it on an episode.
It's been great.
So I'm so happy that you'refinally here and we can talk
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about one of your favorite kinksthat we have not just really
discussed thoroughly on thisepisode yet, on this on the
podcast, not just this episode Iam super excited, yeah um.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Should I just jump in
, or?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
do you want to?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
yeah, jump in, tell
everybody what we're talking
about so as a bit of a prelude,because that is a lot of hype to
live up to.
At my core, I would describemyself as an experimentalist.
I love to fuck around and findout and in that journey over the
last year and a half, I wouldsay I've really found that I
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enjoy ddlg, which this entireworld has.
A has initials for everything.
Ddlg stands for daddy dom let's, let's start, even like.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
What was the
circumstance that occurred,
where you were like oh, I likethis.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah, that was
probably about.
Let's say, about three or soyears ago.
I was with my ex and she calledme daddy while we were having
sex and it was over, yep.
Like a Thanos snap half yourbaby's dad, new kink unlocked.
(03:12):
Didn't explore the full worldof that as much in that
relationship but through that,as I was transitioning out of
that relationship and met somenew partners who were interested
in it as well, I've gotten thechance to I wouldn't say fully
explore, but sufficientlyexplore different aspects of it.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
It's a lot of fun
more regularly and
enthusiastically Did you seekout DDLG, or is it something
that seeped in over time, as youhad experience with partners
that you met?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, I didn't seek
it out.
My girlfriend that I've beenwith for a little over the last
year.
We really were able to have ourkink journey together as this
was all very new to her and wejust found like what we enjoyed
and leaned into that more.
We are in an open relationshipand so with other partners along
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the way I found this one otherlovely girl that was really knew
what she liked and was veryforward about that and I was
like I enjoy that that too, andso I didn't explicitly seek it
out and I had the chance toexplore with different partners,
with coming into situationswith different levels of
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experience.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And just to clarify
for anybody that may not be
familiar in a circumstance inDDLG, what that might look like
is the girl or the femalepresenting person dressing up
like a little girl younger,maybe pigtails, a cute pink
onesie.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I know you've seen a
couple pictures of Sarita,
exactly like that I sure have Isure have, and, yeah, that can
be a component of it.
You know, the daddy-dom littlegirl, ddlg, lives under this
kind of umbrella, known as CGL,caregiver little, which there
are a couple other dynamics thatcan exist in there as well, and
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adjacent, so there's also likebrat and brat tamer, for
instance.
But I bring that up to say thatit's yeah, dress up can be a
component of it.
It's not necessary, it's moreof.
There is definitely a surrenderinvolved with it.
There's often an avenue ofsubmissiveness that exists, but,
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and so even with little girllike there is, as the name would
suggest, there's often ageinvolved.
To what age the other personregresses is up to them.
If necessarily at all, doesSarita regress Embrace certain
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tendencies of different lowerages, and that's everything from
sucking on a pacifier tosucking my thumb boards and even
sometimes throwing a bit of atemper tantrum, especially
during or after being spanked.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
So how is this
different?
So, okay, so she doesn't domega regressing or go to a
specific age.
So how and I know you guys, soI know that you also have a dom
sub dynamic Would you say thatyour dynamic is always DDLG, or
like, what is the line thatseparates a regular dom sub
situation from a DDLG situation?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Cause I think you
participate in both we do and
knowing I was coming on, thispodcast gave us a bit of thought
.
And what comes first?
The interaction or the label,you know, saying that you're
having a DDLG interaction or aDOM sub interaction.
That can be helpful indescribing an interaction or
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setting an expectations aroundthat interaction, but when
you're with a long-term partnerat least my experience is is
that it's not clearly as defined.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
You need a lot more
acronyms.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
With a long-term
partner, you mean.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Well, there's plenty
of different ways to describe an
interaction, but I think themost authentic interactions is
that you lean into the thingsthat you and the partner enjoys,
and sometimes those are like,oh, those would be categorized
as DDLG.
For instance, the dressing upin the onesie, the spanking
pacifier there are components ofthat.
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There's also, you know, on thedaddy dom.
There is giving instructionsand being nurturing and, from a
praise perspective, things likegood girl, that's a good girl,
you know exactly what your daddylikes, and so those are things
to pick from inside of anauthentic interaction that would
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be categorized as DDLG.
But to say when it's strictly aDDLG interaction or it's DOM
sub, it's more of a yes.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Okay, does that make
sense.
Yeah, what I'm getting is thatit's subtle and it kind of
exists always for you two, butit's not necessarily like the
focus all the time.
Yeah, because I've seen some ofyour spankings.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I've seen some of
yoursankings.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
They're adults,
spankings.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
The real grown up.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
They're adult man to
adult woman spankings.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Well, she gets out.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Tosin, do you have
DDLG dynamics with anybody,
anybody, or have you ever, or isit something that you like?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
oh, I've done, I've
done both sides, I've done mdlbs
and ddlgs hold on mommy dumblittle little boy.
Okay, mommy, dumb little boy,and you've been the daddy to a
little girl well, one of them'snon-binary, and so you know
there's like there's layers toit, right?
A lot of people say they're inDDLG relationships, but it
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really just means their partnercalls them daddy in bed.
I was wondering and there's notlike a caregiver dynamic to it.
There's also people.
There's also like a delineationI like to make with age playing
.
There are people whoresponsibility regress and not
competency regress, so that'slike more the dynamic of like I
don't want to have to thinkabout when to make my own food
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and I don't want to make choicesand I don't want to have
responsibilities, but I'm anadult and can go to the bathroom
on my own and you don't have tolike remind me to change my
clothes and stuff, but I've doneboth.
That distinction I've neverheard it delineated like that
before me.
Neither excellent yeah, andI've been in.
I've been in like instances,like one-time affairs that were
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like various versions of that.
I was with somebody for alittle bit who like regressed to
like four-year-old for likeplay times.
I have one of my, one of mypartners I've had for a while
definitely identifies as alittle and we definitely have a
more like daddy princessspoiling party type situation.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
The person that I got
the corset for and that I went
to IMSL with For anybody thatdidn't hear that episode, tosin
bought a very expensive corsetfor this partner.
It's like $1,200 or something.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Which I'm finally
going to get to see.
Oh, I hope we all get to seeI'm gonna be in town in a month,
so where'd you get this corsetfrom?
What is the name of the company?
I do not remember.
I got it as a at a vendor atinternational ms boot, black and
leather conference.
It was like a weekend hoteltakeover.
That was incredible.
I think there's an.
There's an episode about I tellthere is all the things um, but
(10:44):
yeah, that was that one wassuper awesome and but yeah, and
so I've been.
The most intense one was likethe birthday fat life happening.
That's the most intense dlgscene I've ever done explain
what that means birthday fatlife happening oh, so on my
birthday last year I think, yeah, last year I got, I get, I
regularly, I get a hotel and youknow I just posted on fatLife.
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In places I was like I got ahotel.
I wouldn't eat people out.
Someone took me out, bought methat offer.
It went further than eating outbecause we cooked pretty well.
They in the throes, like calledme daddy.
They noticed my eager responseto it because I enjoy it.
We paused.
We were like, do you into that?
And I was do you into that?
(11:26):
And I was like, yeah, I'm intothat.
I'm like let's do it.
And then that scene got all theway up to things like you can't
stop now.
No, no, no, I, I.
I always pause because I try to.
If I just flat it, it soundsreally really bad.
But like, uh, we into, everyonewas happy.
I checked on them afterwards, um, but basically the scene turned
into like she was trying tohave sex with me so that like
her dad would stay, and theywere like using that situation
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to like work through that, andso we were like role playing
through that while we werehaving sex and it was
magnificent and you know, andafter, like we, we parted, I was
, I made sure to like messageand talk to them.
I was like when we were done, Iwas like, hey, that was a
fairly intense scene that we did.
We just met each other and likeit easily sounds like we were
encroaching on some traumaticplace.
Do you mind if I check on youover the next couple of days?
Make sure you're okay?
(12:07):
They were happy to do that.
I checked on them.
They've been okay, they're.
Everything seems to be fine.
Please do that.
You find yourself in thatsituation and we did, and we did
stop and talk about, like thetypes of role plays that things
are into because, like I, Imentioned that, like I am into
gratification expressed sexually, I am down to the grade.
I'm down to be degraded.
I'm down to role play daddy,actual family daddy, dynamics.
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They were like I was like, ohwell, you know I have a daddy,
will you stay?
Type of things.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I was like, all right
, let's, let's roll and question
for you how long does let'scall it incest role play become
a part of your ddlg dynamics?
My well I guess it's kind ofalways there a little bit.
But like, really like leaninginto the fact that there is this
component, like leaning intothe fact that the daddy we're
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actually family members.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
A little girl, yeah
yeah, explicitly.
That experience and once with apartner I was with for a little
while, um has been the only onethat is, like you know,
focusing on the we are actuallyfamily members.
Part of it, like did you doyour homework, type of things,
and every other one it's beenlike not the family aspect of it
, more the caregiver aspect ofit.
What about you?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I had one individual
I was with it kind of naturally
evolved inside of the scene andwe checked in with each other
afterwards and it was.
It was one of those thingswhere the dirty talk went into
an area of okay, dirty talk ishot as shit until it crosses the
line and you split anotherperson out.
And for me it remained hot asshit.
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But I definitely found myselfgetting a little in my head and
self-aware of the fact of like,is she into this?
Or, you know, pushing to theother side.
You know, was it pushing to theother side of like squicking
out the other partner?
And the entire thing turned outto be hot as hell and it was
revisited in a couple othertimes.
But it was very much a newexperience for me and I think
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it's probably an example of justyeah, I'm not really part of
the kink that I personally leaninto, except for really getting
off on getting somebody else off.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Oh, yeah, I, yeah, I
feel that wholeheartedly and I'm
also a very big fan of, likeyou know, let the bottoms move
the goalposts Right, because youknow it would be weird if I
write to people over so that Ican eat them out, and then I'm
moving the goalposts to being,like you know, you know, the
only way daddy's going to comeback home is if you X, y, z,
right, that's a weird thing forme to do, but, like the bottom
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is leading me that way with therole play, like they asked, the
question was like, well, nowthat I've been really good, are
you going to stay?
And I'm like, yep, sure, let'sdo it.
Yeah, that's exactly what I'mgonna do, you know.
I'm just, you know it's, it's,it's, it's yes, ending in the
bat in the bedroom and then, ifit's a scene that, like is,
could be uncomfortable, theperson who would be in the most
uncomfortable position is theone that makes the offers and
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then, if you're comfortabledoing it, you play on.
This is this is also the reason,yeah this is also the reason
that I'm like a firm believerand, like I, I'm worried about
the idea of top space, so likebecause there's subspace where
you're just kind of like yourbrain goes and you're just
falling or whatever you're in.
But in especially a lot ofscenes that are like dangerous
or in or easily inside oftraumatic zones, your brain
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needs to be on, like I thinkit's a very healthy mental
position to be enjoying thehottest shit incest play that
you're doing but also have thesidetrack of your brain going
and be like are we safe, are wegood?
Everybody happy, payingattention, what's up?
I think that is a necessary gap, unless you've been with that
person for a really, really longtime.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Could not agree more,
you know, on that part of
moving the goalposts, to beginwith, I entirely agree with you
in the sense that outside ofwhat's been pre-negotiated for
the scene, a top should not bethe one pushing outside of what
was negotiated and outside ofthat container.
Where it gets interesting and Ithink where some of the
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challenge lies is after thebottom moves the goalpost in a
direction.
It is communicating like hey, Iwant to go in this direction.
Sometimes it requires kind offalling out of the scene and
saying are you cool with this?
Depending on level of comfortand whatnot, that can be a bit
of a gray and challenging areafor a top of.
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Okay, they've indicated goingin this direction.
Should I continue to move withthem cautiously?
But perhaps it's more?
You know, there's a little bitof a game of leap for all.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
So I can actually
speak to that and it's a little
off topic.
But so the person I seeregularly for domestic
discipline had some pretty hardboundaries as far as implements
because some of them, I think,brought up childhood trauma and
she didn't want to use them.
But if you have a really goodrelationship with your partner,
if they really like you outsideof you know the dynamic as a
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person it's possible that theyfeel safe enough to go beyond it
.
In the beginning she was likeno belts, absolutely no spoons.
Totally fine, I like battlesand gains.
But you know, eventually, likethrough conversation, I was like
oh, I like belts a lot and shewas like I could try the belt
right, and you know, then westarted with the belt and then
we had another like and then,you know, time passes, we had
(17:11):
another conversation and I waslike spoons actually one of my
favorite things because it'smean.
And it stings a lot.
It's small but mighty, and Ididn't say that to like make her
like feel bad, that she didn'twant to use the spoon.
It was just a conversation.
But because we had seen eachother so much and she felt okay
with me and you know me sayingthat later she was like we can
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try the spoon and I was like areyou sure?
She's like yeah, like okay, soI, you know, I got it out and I
made her hold it for a whilebecause, like I feel like she
was probably fine, but I feltuncomfortable.
I was like this was a hard no,while ago.
But you know, we did it andthen I used it and then I
checked in with her and it wasfine, it was great, and now I
can spank her with a spoon.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
It's awesome we love
to see it.
Yeah, and I think those thingsare beautiful.
I was like that's, you know.
I think that's why we're alllike so very happily trying to
progress like this deeper layerof human connection that we're
allowed to, because it's likelike I'm.
You know, I have no idea howthat event impacted that
person's life going forward, butyou know, I've been there for
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people going through things andlike feeling through things and
working through and talkingthrough traumas enough to
recognize when someone is likeworking through something and
I'm happy to be like whateverreceptacle.
That is A lot of the time.
That's like holding space bylistening and holding space by
being like letting someone feelcomfortable enough to like break
down and cry around.
But as good as I feel beingable to be a listening ear and a
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shoulder to cry on, I also feelgood being like yeah, I'll be,
I will, I will act out theversion of the sexual encounters
that you wish you had.
I will be a villain that youcan beat up on, like whatever it
takes to externalize it like assafely and as intelligently as
we can.
We're doing kinky things likewe're not going to get it all
right all the time and we're youknow we're rolling dices and
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taking risks, but as we talkabout everything and do it, you
can be a huge help to people.
And again, go get therapy.
Talk to medical professionals.
Don't use kink to solve yourtrauma problems all of those
disclaimers.
But if you, with someone thatyou trust and someone that
you've met and someone thatyou've talked through with you,
find yourself with theopportunity to be like, I think
this will help me.
Can we try it?
And if everybody's comfortable,do it, like I'm sure your?
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Your domestic discipline subs,relationships with belts and
spoons is better now than it wasbefore.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
That obviously there
can be a closeness that comes
from from being comfortableenough that you no longer need
to have the.
You no longer feel it necessaryto have the boundaries that
first had when you engagedinside of a dynamic totally for
everyone.
It is totally not necessary toever compromise any boundary,
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though they are all perfectlyacceptable.
You can keep them in placeforever and still have a
beautiful dynamic that grows.
That is not to say that youneed to give up boundaries by
any means.
It does make me curious to askdo y'all have any boundaries or
X or anything that were in placeat one time and are no longer
there?
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because I, as we were havingthis discussion, like one
occurred to me when I, for thelongest time, p was a hard no
still not something likereceiving or giving yes, op
anywhere, still not somethingthat particularly turns me on,
but sarita is a squirter and ifwe are with any squirter for any
length of time it's got alittle bit of a pee smell you
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can get beat on yeah yeah, andthrough that, like I'm
definitely at a place now whereI'm like, yeah, you know, if you
wanted me to pee on you andmaybe vice versa, I'd be, I'd be
game to give it a shot I just Ialso like that.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
It's like because
she's a squirter and you enjoy
her orgasm and you enjoy thatshe squirts.
Like it's kind of just changed,naturally changed your
perspective on urine.
Like it's now kind ofassociated with something hot,
even if she's not directlypeeing on you.
The the light scent of urinecan maybe be a little bit
arousing, because now it makesyou think of your girlfriend
(21:04):
squirting, yes, no I'm not sureI'm quite that rewired that I
smell pee and turn on it's notan immediate turn off, though
yeah, that's a great questionand I I can't think of any.
I am less kinky in my own sexualencounters than I think most
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people are, because we all knowthat I'm a dom that won't fuck
you and does not want to befucked in that capacity.
I just want to dominate you.
But even as a dom, I haven'tmet that boundary yet.
I haven't met a boundary thathasn't been moved.
It's a lame answer, I'm sorry.
Tell us and you go.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
It's not a lame
answer.
I'm sorry, tell us when you go.
It's not a lame answer.
Hmm, I probably.
It's similar to like engagingwith menstruation, probably Like
.
I think in my youth I was morelike no, and like it's not
necessarily something that Iwould seek out.
I think I think in general,yeah, it it's.
I think it used to be likedefinitely not.
And now if it's like, oh, it's,it's happened, we'll just clean
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it up and move on.
I think that's more parenthoodthan like.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Likewise, like I've
now I've dealt with so many
bodily fluids that are all ofit's just kind of like whatever
so I know you're a big fan ofcunnilingus, and so I've got to
ask when you say menstruationlike, what exactly do you mean
there, sir?
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Oh, like you know, if
you don't mind me asking yeah,
like eating somebody out ontheir period or like having sex
with somebody that'smenstruating.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Oh, air in your face.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
What's that called
that?
You've earned your red wings.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yes, red wings.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
So you're saying that
people are free bleeding into
you as you go down on them, likethere's women who will just be
like, yeah, I'm on my period,deal with it.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I think, like the
occurrence that has happened,
one was diva cupped, which is anon-event.
One was later in the flow cycle, which is generally a non-event
.
I think, like you know, halfwaythrough day.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
One probably I'm not
going to go for, but like I
laugh because halfway through myday one yeah, that'd be
upsetting for somebody and likeI think at one point someone had
started while I was going downon them.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
But I'm like I don't
fail.
So I'm like well, we're hereand I will not be stopped by a
river of blood I will say that Iwill make it to the mountaintop
I will make it to themountaintop.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I will say yeah I
mean it.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
It tastes like.
It tastes like blood and,honestly, like, unless you're
sticking your tongue in vagina,you're not really like the, the,
yeah it's a different air, it'sa different zone yeah, like the
, the come away is usually whatis like cleaning my beard, and
so that's like the worst it'sever gotten.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
That's not bad, I
will say that a man, a man who
is unfazed by a period isincredibly sexy.
Like I've had dudes who arelike gross, I don't want to go
near you, I don't want blood inmy urethra.
I'm like why there's blood onmy urethra?
Those are, you know, douchebags, right?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I actually know the
turning point.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Sorry, go ahead, I'll
tell it afterward and you know,
and after dealing with a bunchof dudes like that, which just
sucks because on your period iswhen you're like the fucking the
horniest right, and then you'rehanging out with somebody who's
like meh, go to hell.
But you know, being able to bewith someone who doesn't matter
the fate, like what happens, whyit happened, the how much blood
there is, it's like if they cantake it in stride and are like
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I don't care, baby, let's keepgoing, it's so great.
It's so great, it's the best, Imean I don't.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I don't understand
reluctance there.
I met this one girl in the lastyear or so who was like no
man's ever been willing to havesex with me on my period I one,
I couldn couldn't believe it andtwo, I saw it as my sovereign
duty to correct this.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Thank you for your
duty, sir.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Okay, Now.
Casey have you ever had a guygo down on you while you were on
your period?
And what would you?
How would you react to that?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Honestly?
Probably I have.
I use menstrual discs and cups,yes, which makes it a non-issue
.
Yeah, if I would not have myperiod purposefully free,
bleeding while somebody wasgoing down on me, unless I was
like, hey, I love where this isgoing, but just you know, I'm on
my period and I'm not in anycapacity.
I have no tools down there.
And if they were like fuck yeah, let's go, I'd be like fuck
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yeah, let's go Fuck it, we ball.
Let's go.
And if they're like, could youput something in, I'd be like,
yeah, let's go, you know,because it's not an unreasonable
request at all.
No, I'd be, I'd be down forwhatever.
And it's way hot when a guydoesn't fucking care and it
doesn't deter them.
I will say that menstrual discsare amazing and they're I don't
(25:43):
know if I've talked about thisbefore and their advertisement
is their marketing is now youcan have sex on your period,
which I actually fucking hatebecause you can have sex on your
period anyways.
Stop slandering periods andimplying that you can't have sex
when you're on your periodbecause you can't.
Men, it's fine, it just do it.
Nobody should be ashamed orhave shame around it or shame
others for it.
Menstrual discs are fuckingfantastic, though.
(26:05):
Everybody just use them.
I know they are look terrifying, but if you are a body that has
a period, just it's the fuckingbombcom because it's self
emptying and once you figure outhow to use it, you don't have
to deal with anything duringyour entire period.
But the mental desk, anyways,my first two days are horrendous
, like hemorrhaging.
It's crazy.
If I'm not using a mental desk,I can't leave the house because
(26:27):
I I might not serve like it,will I, just I'd have to change
whatever it is right no, no,clothes will survive no clothes
will survive.
So I've become really good atcleaning my.
This is not really gross, butlike my blood off of my chairs
that I'm sitting in right now,because if we could just like it
is, this is an other world.
It's a tidal wave sometimes andI'm sitting there and I'm like
(26:50):
it's funny being a woman becauseyou can sit there and you're
like nobody knows that I justhad the experience of so much
stuff gushing out of my vaginaright now.
It just happens at any point.
Anyways, I've become very goodat cleaning up blood.
I can't help.
I can't help.
It doesn't matter how manywears of underwear period
underwear, discs, pants wear.
It's a thing that happensoccasionally.
Anyways, I have a disc in.
(27:11):
It's the first couple of daysof my period.
It hasn't really started yet,but I put a disc in early so
that when it does start nobodyknows Not even me I'm having sex
and the failure point of a discis doggy style.
So, it maintains for most thingsas long as it's not super,
super full.
(27:32):
It maintains for both things.
This was the first day I hadn'trealized I started.
I had started, so it was likemonstrously full.
Dude flips me over, puts me indoggy and it is like five
seconds before.
I cannot imagine what hisperspective is.
I went from normal him notknowing that I'm having a period
to just like a Jackson Pollockpainting all over this man's
(27:54):
person, his couch, the floor,and he's like I think you
started your period, which ishilarious when you see the
quantity of blood.
And I turn around and I amhorrified, I am shooketh, I'm
like, oh God, I started myperiod and I started it a minute
ago and it's all over thisperson and his property.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
It turned you into a
sexual piñata.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Boom, out comes the
candy.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
I could say you know,
this is one of the most
positive.
Anyways, I'm not going to talkabout the person, but it was
really delightful because hedidn't give a fuck.
I made this man's couch red.
He did not give a fuck.
He was like it's kind of hot.
And I stopped and I was likeplease, let me clean your couch
immediately, because I'm verygood at it because of these
(28:44):
chairs.
And I did it.
He didn't think it was going tohappen.
He was like I need a new couch.
Anyways, I was like that's verysweet, you can still get a new
one.
I'm going to clean this so youdon't have to live with this
until then.
Got it out, it was fine.
It was like halfway throughcleaning he was like are you
done yet?
Can we keep going?
I was like marry me, but don't.
Anyways, that's my period story, guys.
(29:04):
Do you think it was?
Speaker 3 (29:05):
position?
Or do you think it was just thefact that you can penetrate
deeper Like a 12 inch log inmissionary?
Would it do the same thing?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
No, I definitely
think it's if you're using a
disc, for me at least, and maybe, however, my pelvis is tilted
or my internal workings areangled, and I think maybe by and
large, this is a case if you'reusing a disc, if you're in
doggy, because the magic of adisc is when your pelvis tilts a
certain way, it self empties.
So when it's really full, Ijust have to go to the bathroom
and sit on the toilet and it,like it drains, and then I can
like clean up and go about myday and it just continues doing
that.
So I think there's somethingabout bending over and, whether
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you're standing or you're onyour knees, the way your pelvis
is tilted, it just kind of likeit pours out.
If it's, if it's super full ormoderately full, it just cause.
This is not the first time I'vehad this experience with this
product in this position, butthe first.
The other time it happened, itwasn't that full, so it wasn't
that like it, just I was like itwasn't the art that you made
that day.
(30:04):
It wasn't the Jackson Pollock, Imade that day, no, that day.
It wasn't the jackson pollock,I made that day, no.
And then, when it happened thatway, I was like oh no to self,
do not do doggy in a disc.
Got it noted great thanks.
I'll keep that in my spreadsheetyeah, log it, track it, live by
it, unless, unless you're intothat and then have your girl put
a disc in and ask her to dodoggy and you're welcome yeah,
no, I'm definitely all I feellike you call that maneuver the
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little teapot, the bloody teapot.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yes, hit me over and
pour me out.
Oh, we're silly, I love it.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
All right, it's
probably already on Urban
Dictionary, urban dictionary,but if not, we need to make
somebody check.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I remember the
turning point for me that like
that made me go from like I willprobably, I will probably say
no if requested, I think.
And then after this I had aseries of situations where it
was happening mid-stride and I'mlike we're here and it's, I
don't care, let us proceed but,the turning point is actually an
ali wong stand-up special,because she has a bit in there
(31:15):
that she was like I was what ishappening?
my partner just ran in and stolesome wings.
There's a bit in there.
That basically basically goes.
You know, I was with this.
I was with this guy and he waslike I was like let's have sex
and she was like, oh well, Ijust want to let you know that
was with this.
I was with this guy and he waslike I was like let's have sex,
and she was like, oh well, Ijust want to let you know that
I'm on my period and he lookedat me and he looked down and he
(31:35):
was like, oh well, then let'smake a fucking mess, ali I
remember seeing this on tiktokand I fucking love it.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I also love ali wong.
Oh, let's make a fucking mess,alley.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
And I was like that
man.
I was like, ah, my perspectivehas changed.
I want this is, this is my rolemodel, this is the hero that I
want to be as yes, please yeahthat actually the same special
is also what turned me aroundabout a booty hole like it,
which I'm now super addicted to.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
That's probably I'm
sorry did you say booty hole
licking?
You said it real fast and youlike ran it all into one very
small word.
That's why I got really naboo.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
I really had a booty
hole licking all the syllables,
yeah, and it's.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
You know it's a great
.
What is it about booty holelicking that you like?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
There there's
geometrical benefits, right.
So like it's fairly difficultto be like it is not engaged
position for cunnilingus becauseof location, location, but like
one of my favorite buttholelicking times was like laying
down watching a movie, just likeI, just where my head was, it
was like, oh, there's a buttholehere, I'm licking and I could
(32:38):
and so and it was just like yeah, this is, this is great.
Everybody really likes it.
People really don't realizethey like it.
It's kind of a similar thingwith like.
Why I enjoy like sucking toesand foot fetish stuff is because
people are shocked by theirenjoyment of it, and I enjoy
that dynamic a lot.
So there, yeah, there's that,and it's also, like you know,
comforting being between buttcheeks.
It's just a, it's a warm place,amen that is the title of this
(33:02):
podcast.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Once you've had your,
booty hole licked like you,
don't go back when you are witha partner like, it's like.
Let me show you the joy of this.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
So Aaron licks booty
holes too.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Both ways, baby Both
ways.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I was about to say
man on the cloth.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Now it is important I
couldn't imagine just springing
it on someone as I want to makesure it's a very clean booty
hole.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Clean enough to eat
off of, as it were.
Fair enough, Tosin's like meh.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I can take 70% clean.
Listen, it's my same rule, forit's the same thing I say about
cuddling all the time.
Everything tastes like yourmouth after five seconds.
You just literally have to getthrough the intro part of it,
and once you're past that,everything just starts tasting
like your mouth anyway.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
T just start tasting
like your mouth anyway, tosin.
What I love about you is you'reone of the few people that can
make me feel like a prude, andthank you, amazing.
I also enjoy.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
No, keep going,
that's fine.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
I was going to say
from like a dominant submissive
aspect.
I enjoy licking the booty holeas there is a lot of surrender
that comes from that.
A partner needs to engage in tohave their booty hole licked.
It's a very vulnerable position.
However it's set up.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah, I will say that
the act of willingly bending
over and letting somebody lookinside your butt cheeks is
vulnerable.
I don't even get that view ofmyself.
You know it's.
There's a lot of hope that it'snot weird.
I'm sure it's.
All's a lot of hope that it'snot weird, I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
So you can edit this
part out if you decide you don't
want to keep it casey.
But you know, when we weregoing to this lifestyle event
this weekend, I bent sarita overto put the butt plug in her and
had her staring in the face asI was happening first thing I
did was ate her buddy booty holeout as like I think I saw that.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I think I saw that a
little bit.
Yeah, it makes sense.
You're trying to put a buttplug in it's one.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
You know a, you can
do some natural lubricant there,
but also it comes from justputting her in a naturally
submissive situation.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I see, I see Tricky.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Are we cutting this?
Are we cutting this right out?
Are we going to give it?
No, we can keep.
Did I hear correctly you saidyou bet your partner over and
made her stare directly at casey?
Speaker 3 (35:13):
yes, and she broke.
She broke that gaze, at whichpoint casey kind of went at her
with the paddle a little bit.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
It was a lot of fun
every single noun and verb of
that sentence totally arouses meI'm excited to paddle her again
at some point, because I thinkI know how to stop, make her
stop squirming it requires norestraints.
I'm really looking forward toseeing this as I have tried and
tried and tried she's a squirmer, she's a squirmer um, that's
(35:43):
why you gotta have gorilla armsgorilla arms check.
Going to check your privilege.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Check your privilege.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Everybody.
I know that I have been blessedand it is not not my own doing
that has blessed me with theselarge King Kong arms.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Thank God, somebody
has them.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
I'm going to rewind
us.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I'm going to rewind
us real quick, cause I want to.
I had some DDL G questionsbecause I am not into age play.
I have no interest in actinglike a little girl or a mother.
I feel like that happens withmen frequently anyways, so it's
hard for me to envision that asbeing sexy.
Oh man, erin, that reminds meof something I'm going to out
you on.
It's not that bad.
(36:24):
So here's what happens when Ihear about age play, when it
involves sex.
First of all, I have no desireto call a man daddy unless he
earns it, and it's not an agething, it's a dom thing, okay,
so.
So my idea of daddy is isdifferent.
I feel like a lot of peoplewill listen to this kind of age
play and get ick from it becauseof the incest and the age
(36:48):
difference in what's happening.
I'm like totally accepting ofeverybody's kink, but I can't
imagine being in a situationwhere I'm playing like a seven
year old to like a, however olddaddy is, and there's like sex
involved.
Does that not give you guys anypause when you're doing it?
Speaker 1 (37:01):
So you know a thing
that I say all the time is like
I have a six year old and athree year old.
They don't touch each other inmy brain Like.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
I don't feel like I'm
having the experience of having
sex with a child when I age.
Play I'm like no part of mysystem is like forgetting that
this is a girl with an adult.
Yeah, and so like I like I haveheard of, yeah, like the
mechanics of it, don't none ofthe like practical mechanics of
what I'm doing hit any part ofmy system.
(37:30):
That makes me feel like I'mhaving sex with a child, which
doesn't sound fun to me, um, andso I think that's why it's like
never been an issue with me,especially like being an actual
father.
I like it's very easy to havethe separation of my brain like
it doesn't I don't think aboutit, it's not a thing at all and
I think usually what usually ishappening with the age play
thing is increasing theintensity of caregiving.
(37:52):
So, like you know, we careabout each other.
Like when you, when you wereyoga daddy and you were taking,
you were helping me, like, getmore flexibility with my body,
there's like and then there's athere's a gap of caregiving
where, like you know more andyou're taking care of and making
sure that I'm safe and doingthings safely right.
If you add the role playelement of being like you're
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taking care of, like a youngerperson, that just increases the
intensity of caregiving.
If you're as a caregiver, youenjoy that responsibility and
the gratitude that comes fromthe responsibility and like the
consequences of like growth andsuccess of the person you're
taking care of, you're justintensifying that caregiving
feeling.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
If the person is
playing a child or something
really young, which is usuallywhat I'm getting out of it- yeah
, I can kind of dive in on thatbecause I think Tosin is
pointing towards the part of thedynamic that satisfies me as
well, and it can be easy to hearsomething like DDLG and focus
on the age, that there's like anage disparity occurring.
(38:54):
And this goes back to you usethis label of DDLG to kind of
describe a dynamic, but whatactually occurs?
There doesn't necessarily haveto be an explicit age regression
.
I would kind of encourage youto think of it more, about the
feelings one can get.
So from that little perspective,life is so hectic and we have
(39:16):
so many responsibilities and youhave to be on the ball about
everything all the time and thatis an exhausting thing.
And there are a lot of peopleand partners that I've been with
that it is just.
They are kick-ass individuals,high functioning, but they've
got the weight of the world inthem.
In this dynamic it doesn't needto be about regression so much
(39:38):
as just knowing you're going tobe taken care of, knowing that
you don't have thatresponsibility anymore so even
if there's a high trust dynamicthat occurs inside of a ddlg
dynamic and then on the otherside of that, from the call it
the caregiver or the daddy domor the mimey dom, it's this
opportunity to nurture like.
(39:59):
Why daddy dom fits for me isthat I my, the way I express my
love, language is acts ofservice.
I'm naturally a very nurturingindividual.
I mean, you've seen me, casey.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
It's true.
I like to take care of thosethings about me.
I've seen you, I've experiencedit myself.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
You are very
nurturing Couple that with, like
a bit, I would say, a strongsadistic streak.
And there you go, mix those twotogether and you got yourself a
daddy bomb.
I love it.
And so people hearing thisdon't get fixated on the age
dynamic.
There are some people that dolove the age play component of
(40:38):
that.
There is an entirely specifickink or dynamic that's all
around the age play componentthat fits nicely into DDLG.
But you can have a satisfyingand gratifying dynamic that
isn't focused on age play.
It's far more about thatopportunity to give up control
(40:59):
and be comforted and thatletting go of responsibility,
coupled with that otherindividual that is honored to
receive that and takes on thiscaregiver role and takes on the
responsibility for both parties.
And kind of going back to Tosin, what you were talking about
earlier about top space, yeah,that bothers the shit out of me.
(41:22):
Like, no, like being the thetop inside of a dynamic means
that you have acceptedresponsibility for the scene and
there is no waving your handsand saying, oh, I just got out
of my head.
If you get out of your head,you fucking end the scene and
that's your responsibility tooyep, yep, a thousand, a thousand
percent agree.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
Like I have an
internal like daddy code, that
is like I am not doing itcorrectly, like I am not being
daddy.
If I cannot allow you to,safely, comfortably and without
internal reluctance, letyourself fall apart, let
yourself like, be small and dropall of the things until I,
(42:02):
until I can create that spacefor you, I am not daddy.
But, like what you were sayingon the other side of it, it was
like I was like I'm not willingto call somebody daddy until
they earn it.
I refuse to let someone call medaddy until I earn it, and so
and the like.
The thing that's like reallyimportant to me that I think
about all the time is that makesme feel great is almost all the
people that I'm in DDLGs withor like, who do, who have or do
(42:24):
call me daddy, are people who,like Eric was talking about, are
badass, doing a lot of things,carrying a lot of weight on the
world, and they're also very,very uncomfortable with being
vulnerable Like that dynamic.
That scene is the one of theeasiest and most comfortable
ways for them to be like forthis 10 minutes, 50 minutes, two
hours, however we're talking.
(42:46):
I'm going to put it all downand I'm going to curl up in a
tiny ball in your big gorillaarms and let you read me bedtime
stories and feed me snacks andwatch television shows, and buy
me gifts and eat me out as longas you possibly want to and can
Like.
That's all of that.
I'm going to let it be and letsomeone take care of me for just
a little bit and then I will goback out to be carrying an
entire mountain on yourshoulders.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
So if I could, if I
could, maybe what?
So what I heard or got out ofthe conversation that was just
had is that, even though in thetitle and it specifically,
there's an age component to whatthis kink is called, even if
somebody is acting younger thantheir current age, it's you have
to remove the age from it andit's just a loss of
(43:27):
responsibility and being takencare of.
Like sometimes you don't haveto remove the age.
Like somebody sometimes wantsto be five or whatever, but in
in.
Is that, kurt?
Is that, kurt, the correcttakeaway from what?
Aaron, what you were saying islike they might be acting like a
child, but you don'tnecessarily view them as being
12.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
Yes, absolutely Like.
So sometimes you know, asmentioned earlier, like we'll
pull in dynamics of that,everything from pacifiers to
pigtails and everything, wherewhat I get from that dynamic is
imagine that feeling you hadwhen you were younger and you
were with your parent and theylike assuming you had.
Like you were younger and youwere with your parent and they
like assuming you had, like youknow, good parents and whatnot.
Just that feeling of safety andbeing taken care of.
(44:11):
Maybe you're homesick fromschool and your mom's bringing
you chicken soup, like thatfeeling of being cared for it is
.
When I think of ddlg or alittle it is about, there's,
dare I say, a bit of nostalgiafor a part from an experience of
childhood.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
OK, yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
Oh no, yeah, I was
interrupting, I just thought of
something and I keep going, ifyou were that.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
End of sentence.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
And I didn't realize
this.
But the thing that I justrealized a lot is that being in
a DDLG relationship and like howI actually view the child part
of it is exactly the same as howI think of improv stages,
because it is a large group ofgrown adults who have decided
like we're going to throw outthe way that we like the decorum
and responsibilities of likebeing an adult and we're going
to play together.
We're going to do weird things.
We're going to we're, we'regoing to like have fun and we
don't have to act like we havejobs and we don't have to act
like we need to be making surethat we have these
(45:13):
responsibilities.
It's totally fine to like putthat all down and, for a second,
just be like we're going to runaround randomly and scream
strange words at each other andplay games on stage and like
re-grab a lot of those thingsthat like felt good as a child
to do and be that we've justdecided are not OK for adults to
(45:33):
do Like.
I have an oral fixation.
I have considered many times Iwas like if they made a pacifier
that was like slightly longerand like a dickish shaped, I
would have one.
I would have one all the time.
That's probably the solution tomake me not exactly what
Aaron's about to pull out.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
Oh, I can't put my
hands on it, but perhaps next
time I'll bring a.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
I saw you reach for
something and I was just like
does this man have my dreams inhis box?
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Yeah, let's tell him
what it is OK.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
So twelve dollars on
amazon, it's perhaps could be
called a gag gift.
They have made face masks withabout like three inch dildos
attached to the inside of them,so, and by face mask I mean just
like covid style face mask.
Okay, so that goes a littlefurther and, like you, can put
(46:23):
your hands on it for thoselistening at home, just pulled
out a ball gag.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
Basically a ball gag,
but there's a dick in it that
was a.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
That was a long dick
for a ball gag that's not long
at all.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Didn't even make it.
It's too short.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
That's why I'm not
using it for those who want to
be a little more subtle.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Sorry, keep going.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
I just use that face
mask and I'm like oh, so this is
I got it for a scene I want toplay out where essentially, it's
a way to have a bit of anexhibitionist kink without
imposing it on anyone else.
And so it would be dressing youknow, kind of having the woman
dressed up but wearing a mask,and it looks like a COVID mask
(47:07):
from the outside but it has likea three inch dildo on the
inside, and so, as getting inthe Uber going to the place to
eat, what have you, she would infact have a dick in her mouth.
Yes, the entire time.
That, coupled with like aremote control vibrator, really
seems like just a fun way totravel.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Yeah, I've been, I've
been, I've been waiting to get
a remote control vibratorsituation.
I almost had one, but we endedup not going to that show and so
, but man, yeah, I can't wait todo that one of these days love
sense makes some excellentproducts.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
I've got three
different ones from them and
they're all yeah, like they do agood job oh yeah, no, I'm.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
I'm connected on a on
a couple of couple of long
distance toys I just haven't Ihave the phone, they have the
toys you said you wanted to getone.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Though that be
getting one for you or your
partner, oh, sorry.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Yeah, one of my
partners has one and we've
connected on it, we just haven'tused it.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
It's like it's there,
we just haven't had an
opportunity, but it is aaron,here's the thing I was going to
out you on, and that's a strongword.
It's a strong word.
I'm just talking aboutsomething we've talked about
before.
I feel like you've also andmaybe I'm completely wrong about
this you've swapped places anddone kind of a little bit of a
little boy role play, becauseyou had somebody you met up with
a couple of times who's intobreastfeeding and you tried
(48:27):
breastfeeding right.
A and R Another acronym.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
So this was a
one-time situation.
Met her off a field.
She said that she was nursing.
I was like I've all like so Ijust naturally love milk, milk,
which is but I've also been likereally curious about this.
It was, you know, you don'tmatch up with everyone and we
gave it the best shot.
(48:52):
It didn't really work out andthe most depressing part is she
was wrapping up her nursing andit was like a ton of work for
like a drop or two so really uh,it is still very much like on
my on your bucket list you hadsomeone on here on season one um
oh, it was.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Yeah, it was.
What was the name she?
Was it was chalky's partner atthe time who went by.
Does it start with an l?
Speaker 3 (49:15):
yeah, we'll just call
her jessica, it's fine all
right, la jessica, um, uh, shewas talking about how far she
went down that path.
Yeah, huge turn on, just gonnathrow out there like oh, I spent
that, I spent that week seeingher take the needle paddle thing
at shrine and that conversationhuge crush on it.
Speaker 1 (49:36):
Oh yeah, I spent that
week week looking for like an
anr partner on fat life whatdoes anr stand for?
Speaker 3 (49:42):
adult nursing
relationship adult nursing
relationship so toson, althoughI haven't really pursued this,
there is a texas anr subredditoh, I didn't check reddit.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
I was, yeah, I was, I
was, I was sticking with fat
life.
Speaker 3 (49:55):
But now that go
bravely into that.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
Good night sir yeah,
yeah, she went by liz, it's the
dollification episode.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
Um, yeah, yeah she
was talking about like her
journey of, like going through,like her dedication to it was
impressive yeah, she's like.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
She's like a 20
something that hasn't had babies
and I was like I'm gonnalactate and then made it happen
just like that which is bananasyeah, because I mean, I, I
experienced it like naturally inmy relationship.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
You know, my partner,
children and like when they
started lactating whateverlactating it would like, you
know they enjoyed it in generaland so you know, while she was
breastfeeding it was a commonoccurrence where I would be on
it and, you know, manuallystimulating and it was.
It's my favorite, it's myfavorite.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
You'd manually
stimulate her while she was
breastfeeding you.
Speaker 1 (50:42):
Yeah, yeah, there's.
Please, if you've never had itdone in your life, make someone
tell them while you're drinkingmilk out of their nipples.
It is a holy time.
Speaker 3 (50:51):
I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
Do it, do it, check
your feelings.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
I just had a fight.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
That is it.
That was.
I am grateful.
I would do it again in aheartbeat.
Speaker 2 (51:04):
Oh my gosh.
I'm like, do I want kids now,just so I can lactate while
somebody manually stimulates me?
Speaker 1 (51:10):
Do you lactate while
I'm having kids?
Speaker 2 (51:11):
It seems like there's
so much work involved in pills
and pumping.
Speaker 1 (51:19):
I mean, if you're
worried about that I've got bad
news for you about kids.
Casey, way harder, way harder.
There's dirt all over my houseright now.
There's a plant.
There's a plant in here, caseyyou mentioned.
Speaker 3 (51:28):
You had a couple
other stories for us tonight oh
yeah, story is no what.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Okay, I do have a
couple things.
One is I have a very importantannouncement that I'm going to
announce on the podcast.
Don't worry, it's not thatcrazy, but I think I, you know,
I left something a littleunfinished in a couple of
previous episodes.
I wanted to give an update.
If there's any listeners outthere who have been with us the
whole time and have beenlistening and know everything it
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is worth having a party for.
But I wanted to let everybodyknow that I can officially say
my fissure has healed.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
Casey, it is time to
get your booty hole eight.
Speaker 1 (52:07):
I will line up 45
volunteers tomorrow.
I will be one through six.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
I'm glad to be here
with you, aaron, because I know
that we talked about it a bunch.
It's actually been healed for awhile, but I didn't want to say
it out loud and jinx it,because the moment I remember
when I was TMA we've talkedabout poop in my period in this
episode.
I remember the moment I was inthe bathroom and I was going to
the bathroom and I was like,shut the front door, holy shit.
I think my butthole's cured andI was, you know it.
(52:33):
It was so great because there'sa long period of time.
So if you didn't listen toprevious episodes, we talked
about butt stuff and I don'tknow, it just came up.
There's a whole butt poopepisode or two and I, you know I
outed myself as having a severeand chronic fissure and it's
one of the most extreme painsI've ever had.
I've never had a doctor be likeyou need surgery immediately.
This is the worst fissure I'veever seen.
(52:54):
If you don't know what fissureis, it's basically like a very
severe paper cut in your anus.
Who knows why.
You get them I shit glassapparently but they're
incredibly uncomfortable becauseyour butt has a lot of nerve
endings in it, like I was likewhen it first happened, I was
standing in the middle of mybrother's living room and I just
started sobbing.
I couldn't tell them why mybutthole hurts.
(53:14):
It's really bad and they wantto give you surgery for it
immediately if it's bad.
But if, like, the side effectsof that when you're older are
terrible, like you'll'll justshake yourself and I had no
interest in doing that or reallybending over and having
somebody like I feel likethere's, the solutions for it
are old and need to be updatedand they haven't been.
Now on this whole journey oftrying to fix my butthole
(53:36):
without surgery and it seemedimpossible because my fissure
would not heal and I made goingto the bathroom terrible and
going to the bathroom should bea joyful thing.
Amen, that's how I feel aboutit.
Now Just be happy every timeyou go to the bathroom and be
like fuck, yeah, this is great.
But I lived with pain for avery long time before I finally
called a homeopathic doctor or anaturopathic doctor or whatever
(53:57):
and they were like you need touse enemas and put this weird
stuff on your butt.
All the weird stuff you can puton your butt doesn't do jack
shit.
Stupid, don't buy it.
I wasted my money so you don'thave to.
Speaker 3 (54:07):
Just enema.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
Religiously, do not
go to the bathroom without an
enema.
I have one connected to myshower head now.
It will never leave my side.
I will have it for the rest ofmy life.
But I did that for over a yearand I got to the point where the
fissure didn't hurt anymore butit wasn't healing and I don't
know why, because there wouldstill be blood, like minimal
blood.
I even went to the proctologistagain and she was like I don't
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know what you're talking about.
It looks healed, I don't seeanything back there.
And I was like I feel it andthere's blood.
So you're stupid.
Anyways, left thinking you know,doctors are ridiculous most of
the time.
But I was just reallypersistent in not getting
surgery and in using an enemaand in hope and in hope, and
eventually it went away.
And there was this period oftime and this lasted two years
(54:52):
at least people, two years andthere was a period of time where
it was healed and I wasn'tgetting blood, but it was still
very, very sensitive and feltdangerous to go to the bathroom.
I was like any moment I couldsplit open again.
So I didn't feel like I washealed at that point.
But you know, time passed and Irealized that I didn't have
that delicate feeling oruncomfortable feeling and I go
(55:13):
to the bathroom like a normalperson.
We can do figging.
Now, tosin, we can stick gingerup our butts and see who can
last longer.
Speaker 1 (55:22):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (55:28):
Do some fun stuff
with your butt before you do
thinking with your butt, justlike you've had enough pain.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
Okay, let's do, but
let's let's focus on pleasure in
2024 I'm gonna explore that nowbecause I feel like it's
uncharted territory for me.
I don't get pleasure in my buttand I'm gonna figure out how to
get pleasure in my butt.
Speaker 1 (55:43):
It's gonna happen hey
, huge fan, fuck, yeah,
everybody, everybody.
Speaker 3 (55:46):
The fact that you're
such an advocate of enemas means
that you're already ahead ofthe game when it comes to my
pleasure I can make my buttholeso clean inside.
Speaker 2 (55:55):
Sorry, I dropped my
microphone and the other thing
that I was going to now thatI've made that big announcement
about my butthole.
So my my client, my lovelysubmissive, who I have claimed
on fat life that I am a domesticdisciplinarian for I was, you
know.
I received this package todayand I know everything that I'm
(56:15):
expected to receive right nowand this was not the shape of
any of those boxes that shouldbe small enough to fit in my
mailbox For anybody who is notwatching, which is everybody.
It is like a four foot long box, it's like a triangle shape,
it's very long and thin and it'sfrom another country.
(56:35):
And I was like what the fuck isthis?
And I went out and I saw it onmy steps and I couldn't open it
because I had to be somewhere.
And I was out for like an hourand a half and I was like what
the fuck is that box?
What is that mystery box?
There's nothing that Ipurchased and ordered.
And then I come home and itstruck me.
I was like oh, she bought me animplement.
You bought me two implementsbecause we had a discussion.
(56:57):
And then she followed up andshe told me and I forgot, and I
don't know what this is, but Ifigured I'd open it live, love
it live on podcast.
Yes, I mean it'll be recordedwhen everybody else hears it.
But hold on, let me get someskizzers yeah, I mean there's
video recorded too.
Speaker 1 (57:11):
We can, we can, we
can throw it behind the paywall
when I set that up.
Speaker 3 (57:13):
Finally just mailing
you things to beat this shit out
of her with can you?
Speaker 1 (57:20):
can you stand by your
wall when you do?
Speaker 2 (57:21):
it by my wall okay
it's-hmm.
Okay, it's like dirty Christmas.
Which is the best?
Speaker 1 (57:27):
Christmas.
That's a dumb joke.
I was going to say put in theho and ho, ho, ho.
Speaker 3 (57:32):
But it's not good.
I know Casey has an impressivecollection of canes, but based
off of the box shape, I want toguess a cane.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
Yeah, four feet.
Speaker 2 (57:40):
Four feet is leading
me to think cane or fl four
feet's leading me to think caneor flogger could be a flogger
that's shorter than I expected.
Speaker 1 (57:53):
Oh, oh, oh, riding
crop, this is a bullwhip, okay,
oh, you're in it now you're init now.
Speaker 2 (57:56):
Hold on, let me.
Let me take the bubble wrap offto make sure I'm correct,
before we get excited about that.
Speaker 3 (58:11):
Oh, you're gonna be
so good at bull whipping, oh
this is fat oh, oh, oh, my godhurt, oh no I don't want to be a
bottom.
Speaker 2 (58:23):
Oh my God, that's
going to hurt.
I'm going to do it on my thigh.
Oh no, I don't want to be abottom.
Gnarly, I didn't even hitmyself that hard.
Fuck a duck, I'm on my way.
I have like a welt on my thigh.
Speaker 1 (58:39):
Oh, maybe I'll wait,
maybe I'll wait.
Speaker 2 (58:43):
So for our listeners
it's like a three foot ish long
bullwhip and it's fat, it'sblack leather with a gorgeous
silver handle at the end andit's really.
It's like what is the diameter?
It's like maybe like an inchand a half or an inch at its
thickest and then it tapers offto a thinner end that's still
very thick, maybe half, halfinch, I don't know and it's like
(59:06):
it's flexible, it's like a whip.
Speaker 3 (59:08):
It's a fat whip, fat
short whip and you might as well
beat it with a rubber hose atthis point I know this is gonna
be like.
Speaker 2 (59:14):
This is gonna leave
some epic marks, yeah it looks
like.
Speaker 1 (59:17):
It looks like a.
It looks like a long.
It looks like a three foot longtentacle with a silver pommel
yeah, if you, if you know what acane looks like.
Speaker 2 (59:23):
it's like a.
It's like a fat, flexible canemade of leather, really pretty,
and I'll let you know how itgoes.
Looking forward to it.
Speaker 3 (59:33):
So I know that you've
been telling me that she's been
wanting some longer sessions.
You might want to hold off onthat towards the end, because
that might cut the session short, real quick.
Speaker 2 (59:43):
I don't know, she's
hardcore man.
I I mentioned how I had asession with her and I made her
bleed a lot and she was like Iwant to stay longer let's keep
going, let's keep going.
Speaker 1 (59:54):
Yeah, I'm hydrated
taking it forever.
Speaker 2 (59:56):
She could have taken
it forever.
It was, she's hardcore.
But I'm super excited aboutthis bullwhip.
I've kind of been.
I've been wanting to try abullwhip for a while because
they're really pretty and thisone looks so dummy.
Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
I have to check,
because I think that particular
style has a different name yeah,I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
It's a classic
bullwhip.
Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
You're right because,
like bullwhips, have like the
little, like the, the.
I don't know why I'm about tosay twinkly shits, tassels.
Yeah, it has like.
It has has like hair at the endof it and that one kind of like
nubs off earlier, but I don'tknow why I want to get hit by
one probably.
Yeah, I'm on my way.
Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
I've never seen
anything like it before.
Maybe Sarita can try it.
Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
She's already scared
of you.
I I like when I hit myself withit to test it out, because I I
don't like hitting people withthings I haven't tried myself.
I I usually let somebody elsehit me with a new implement
first.
That's not gonna happen.
This is horrendous.
So I held it like halfway downand hit myself, not that hard,
but hard enough to fucking hurt.
I have a red welt on my leg.
Uh, she will regret this and Iam so delighted well, there you
(01:01:03):
go, talk dirty to me is firstdirty christmas box opening.
Anyways, those are my two thingsand this has been a fucking
fantastic episode.
Aaron, I want to have you backto talk about butt stuff and to
talk about lingerie and all theother amazing things that you do
, so be prepared to see aaronagain semi regularly, everybody
(01:01:27):
yeah, we gotta do it.
Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
We gotta do an anr
race.
We're gonna, we're gonna get itin our life next year why there
we?
Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
go an anr race oh,
who gets it first?
Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
based off the stories
I've heard you tell, I, I feel
like you're gonna beat me by acountry mile, but see you, it's
about the journey, not thedestination.
Yeah, I mean, you've you.
Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
I, I feel like you're
gonna beat me by a country mile
, but see you, it's about thejourney, not the destination
yeah, I mean you've, you've, yougot the, you got that
commercially attractive face.
I may be in weirder places, butyour, your opportunities are
wide, I think.
I think it'll be an even race.
Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
We'll see all right
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Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Yeah, amen, bye I was
sobbing on our couch because I
was just like admitting thispart of myself that I had not
told anyone about those firstexplorations are really the um,
the most intimate and the onesthat really kind of stick.
Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
That's something that
I still.
Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
I am still.
I've been in therapy.
Still am struggling to liketurn off in my brain.
Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
We come out with
these guards and it's hard to
then figure out how to put themdown.
I want to feel more empoweredin my body because I grew up not
feeling that way.
Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Oh sin.
Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Everybody's wiping
away tears.
I am.
That was perfect.
I look forward to the day whenour society's progressed past
the point where it's just likethis kind of universally
accepted witch hunt againstanybody who even tries to ask
for help.
So happy that that a podcastlike this exists, that you guys
have a forum where you know youcan talk so openly about things
(01:04:03):
and and just and especially forme, like every episode is eye
opening on a differentperspective.
Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
This is the podcast I
always wished existed, so I'm
excited to be a part of it.
Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
It really does seem
like we're helping people.
Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
This podcast really
is sexy.
Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Glad we're back for a
third season.
Well, I guess we should do ouroutro, Casey.
Do the thingy, but you know, doit, it sexy.
Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
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podcast by Little Renegade
Films.
It stars Casey Sammi you heardwhat the man said do it sexy.
Okay, okay, I'll do it sexy God.
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It stars Casey Sammi, tosinAwafeso and Aaron.
(01:04:46):
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Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Ooh, ah, ah.
Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Ah, mmm.