July 14, 2024 • 58 mins
Can Burning Man really be the ultimate playground for both introspective reflection and wild hedonism? Join us on "Talk Dirty to Me" as Aaron, Tosin Aufeso, and I, Casey Sammy E, pull back the veil on Flipside, a regional Burning Man event in the sweltering Texas heat. We kick things off by demystifying what a burn truly is and juxtaposing the grandiosity of Burning Man with the intimacy of smaller burns like Flipside. From managing the brutal Texas climate to debunking the myth that these gatherings are just drug-fueled orgies, we share practical advice and personal anecdotes that paint a vivid picture of the communal vibes and diverse experiences at these events.
Have you ever wondered how a solemn Temple space can coexist next to a camp dedicated to glory holes? We delve into the eclectic and sometimes surprising dynamics of Burning Man neighborhoods. We explore the balance between maintaining a safe, consensual environment and the inherent challenges of such a diverse community-driven event. Whether it's the deeply emotional moments at the Temple or the playful antics at the "Download Club," we offer a glimpse into how these contrasting spaces navigate their purposes and create a unique tapestry of experiences for all participants.
From the allure of pegging and prostate orgasms to the emotional highs and lows of therapy, we cover it all. We discuss sexual etiquette at kink events, the inclusive nature of these gatherings, and the importance of consent and safety in all activities. Tune in to hear about the fascinating world of kink culture, the beauty of Shibari art installations, and the empowerment found in vulnerability. Whether you're a seasoned kink enthusiast or just curious, this episode promises to be as educational as it is exhilarating, with stories and insights that highlight the diverse and enriching experiences available at these unique festivals.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Well, well, well, go ahead and open up your ears,
your mind and whatever else youneed.
You're listening to Talk Dirtyto Me.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello all you sexy beasts and welcome back to Talk
Dirty to Me, the podcast withthree friends with three
different perspectives on kink,fetish and sex Talk dirty to one
another.
In the studio today we haveAaron
, the experimentalist.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Salutations.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Tosin Aufeso the kink oracle.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Ahoy.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
And Casey Sammy E myself, york Neighborhood,
femdom.
How's everybody doing today?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Good Fantastic.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Amazing.
It's really hot in Texas.
I don't know how hot it is foreverybody else in the other
parts of the world, but it isfucking hot.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Man, my air conditioner broke too.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
No, how did you survive it's been broke for
three days.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Honestly, it's an interesting assistance to my
joints.
My body usually hurts a lot,but since I'm sweating profusely
and drinking copious amounts ofwater now, my joints don't hurt
as bad.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
You don't look sweaty .
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I mean, I bathed before this We'll see how I look
in an hour.
So, casey, you experienced theheat first time firsthand this
weekend.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
The first time ever in my life.
The first time ever, yes, neverbeen hot before this weekend
she finally left the airconditioning.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
First hand.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I did.
I went to Flipside, which isTexas's, one of Texas's regional
burns.
And if you don't know what aburn is, how does one define a
burn?
Regional burns are smallversions of Burning man.
Burning man is a burn, it's anart and music and whatever you
(02:05):
want it to be festival.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I'm going to go out on a limb and say if you're
listening to this podcast, youmay not have been to Burning man
, but you know about Burning man.
What makes the regional onesdifferent?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Well, the environment is definitely different at
Burning man.
It's super hot but also superdry, so there is no sweat really
, just evaporates immediatelyoff your body and there's no
bugs, whereas in Texas it'shumid as a buck and the
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mosquitoes this year were thesize of small dogs.
Um, lord, yeah, it was a wholething.
Um, so you know the, the whatam I?
What?
The what am I looking for?
Like the experience isextremely different based on the
environment.
You in, you're in, but likeit's also like it's smaller.
So I know like it turns out.
(03:03):
I know a lot of people therejust randomly by showing up.
It's like a tighter community.
You know, the art is more onpar with what's capable to be
done in the desert at burningman, but you'll have, you know,
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smaller scale, scale things thatare just as cool.
Um, it's, it's more intimate,which is nice.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Um yeah, what's the shower situation like?
Because I mean burning man, Ihear, is its own.
Like you get like sandeverywhere and you bring in all
your water, is there like ariver or a place to de-sweat
yourself?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, yeah.
So there's a couple answers tothat question.
At Burning man we build our ownshower so we can shower once a
day, and then at Flipside it'stwofold.
There is a river that you canget in.
It's most of the time is dry,given the nature of Texas.
(04:10):
This year it was not for somereason, and the water was going
very fast, so we got in it everyday out of the need to survive.
Sometimes it's lower and notmoving as fast, which means
there's leeches.
So you kind of have to pickyour battle, which means there's
leeches.
Yeah, kind of have to pick yourbattle, um, but which means
there's leeches, yeah, I'm out,I'm out, you're out of the river
.
Just the whole burn, the wholeburn flip side.
(04:32):
For me, there were no leechesthis year, toson oh, okay, I'm
back in yeah, yeah, this year itwas running fast, it was full,
you could get in and havedelightful time.
All sorts of naked people wentto the river.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah, I'm definitely back in.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
And then there's also a couple of camps that are
shower camps.
So if you don't want to get inthe river, you just walk.
You know, a quarter mile downthe road and there's a camp that
offers showers for everybodyand you take a shower.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Amazing, yeah, it's wonderful so I'm curious about
so much.
I've got some friends that arein the lifestyle, that go
religiously actually formerguests of the podcast, greg and
terry, yeah yeah, greg texted meand asked me if I would be
there so they go.
I mean they also go to Burningman and I know they have a great
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time wherever they go.
But I was curious because Iknow they go there and play and
I'm on a Facebook group forFlipside and I kind of read some
of the comments and how much isit like drug-fueled sex going
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on or what is like the kinkslash sex scene at something
like Flipside?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Okay, so Too broad of a question?
No, no, it's not too broad.
I think people's opinions ofBurning man and Burns in general
if you don't know anything isthat it is a drug fueled orgy.
That is a common thought thatpeople have and I will tell you
that burns are the experienceyou want.
(06:16):
So is are there drugsAbsolutely?
Are there orgies Absolutely?
If you want to find thosethings, you will find those
things.
If you're not into those things, you'll magically never come in
contact with them.
I'm not really involved in thekink camps or sex camps at
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Flipside or Burning man, so Ihave to purposefully look for
them if I want to find them andinteract with them.
I, now that we're having thisconversation, I realized that I
was probably at Greg and Terry'scamp.
Next to us, um, was the upsidedown pineapple camp and I, um, I
I had to have, you know, likethere's so many weird camp names
(07:04):
that I didn't even think twiceabout it.
Somebody had to be, like youknow, there's swingers, and I
was like, oh my God, I've seenon pineapple that's the swinger
camp.
So they were probably there andI just didn't know it.
There's definitely in Burningman, there's the orgy dome.
(07:24):
There's definitely an air oflike sexual freedom at all burns
and that, like I, wouldn'tnecessarily have like sex in
public or in front of people inthe.
You know the default world, thereal world outside of burns.
But there are a lot of peoplewho go and just like you're in a
(07:46):
tent and you don't care.
You know people, people willhear you or whatever.
Um, it's and it's it's morewidely accepted and people are
kind of you're not offended andif you are offended you're
probably not in the right place.
It's not.
I'm not trying to say thatthere's like people having sex
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around you all the time.
It's just that it's a place ofradical self-expression and
freedom.
So the likelihood of somebodygoing turning the corner and
seeing some people having sex ona trampoline randomly is much
higher than it would be whereyou not at a burn.
But people aren't just shaggingeverywhere you go.
Um, there are definitely oh, Iwas gonna say a burning man.
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There is the orgy dome, um,which is the I think, from my
experience, the most well-knownsex camp at burning man.
Um, and I can dive into alittle more how they, how they
logistically exist, um, giventhings like COVID and things
like that.
But and I know there's.
There's definitely kink campsand places to experience kink at
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at flip side Gosh.
Where where do I start?
Yeah, so there's a Tantra campand they run workshops and stuff
.
They were actually weren'tthere this year but they're
there every other year.
They were in workshops andthings and like I'm sure they
have more sexually orientedexperiences that they can they
guide people through.
I've never been interested inlike having a deep, intimate
(09:10):
connection with a very sweatystranger um, so I don't
participate in that.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
It's fun I I recommend it.
If you like that stuffeverybody.
I mean the sweaty, strangerpart, not the I.
I've never done it at a flipside or Burning man.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
This year was like I did not like people have sex all
the time at Burns.
I've had sex at Burns, I'vegone with partners but like this
year was so hot and sweaty.
I literally one night was likehow do I take off my own skin?
(09:49):
Cause I don't want to touchmyself.
I can't sleep because I'mtouching myself at all times.
I don't mean a sexy way, I justmean like my skin is on my body
and I needed to be off, kind ofhot and sweaty.
So the thought of like touchinganother person was not the
answer.
Like the whole weekend, like ifsomebody wanted to like get
close enough to me to like touchme or stick things in me, I
would have been like been likeget fuck away from me right now
because you're as disgusting asI am unless you're an eye,
unless you're made of ice let'sgo then roll, let's roll um I do
(10:15):
okay.
So I have some memories of thesex camp.
At flip side, um, walk you justrandomly walking, usually okay,
usually Usually there there's,so there's children and adults
at these things.
So they plan the city in a waythat they're they're cognizant
of that.
So usually anything that's alittle more risque or X-rated is
put like around the corner,down the street and around the
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corner.
So you have to make an effortto go there If you want to.
You're not just going to.
You're not going to be a kidand randomly happen upon anal
and have to go to your dad andbe like what is he doing?
to that other man you know um,but you, but you could happen
upon it if you have, if you havechildren and you're going.
It's not completely like thatis that is a risk, not that it's
(11:00):
negative or positive oranything, it's just something
that could occur.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
But like I do remember walking down the street
, I feel like it's a risk tohave to explain that before
you're ready to have to explainthat to your kids yeah, I
remember seeing like and here'sthe other neat thing about being
at burns like there can becrazy sexual things happening.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
unless you're focusing on it, you don't really
realize it.
Like I was walking down theroad and I was by the sex camp,
ecstatic cart or whatever.
This is many years ago andthere's a lady on like a massage
table.
And this is my like fuzzymemory from several years ago.
That might, at this point, beskewed or exaggerated or
whatever, but so my, the mymemory of this vision, this
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thing that I saw, is thatthere's this woman, this hot
blonde woman, on a table.
Um, I don't actually know ifshe's hot, cause I didn't see
her face, but, um, I wasimagining that she is, because
that is what I would like, andshe's surrounded by, like I
don't know, like six.
There's six men around the table.
(12:04):
I don't know, like six.
There's six men around thetable.
I am I might be misrememberingthat they're all men, but I have
a feeling that they're all men.
There could be another woman inthere, I'm not sure.
Anyways, I remember her beingnaked and she's laying on the
table and they are justservicing her or having their
(12:26):
way with her, I am not surewhich.
Like somebody's making out withher, one person's on one boob,
one person's in the other boob,one person is in between her
legs, like there's just she'sjust surrounded.
And I think I happened to lookover at the moment of climax
when she like all of a suddenlike struggled in like a good
sexy way and like somebody heldher down or whatever, and I was
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like, oh, sex camp and just keptwalking.
But it was like one of the more.
It was one of the more spicythings I accidentally happened
upon at at a burn Burning man acouple years ago.
The camp I was with was campnext to.
Camped next to our neighbor wasthe Download Club and the
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Download Club is a camp of gloryholes.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Every single noun and verb.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I remember you telling me about this I am not
allowed inside of this camp.
I think literally.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
What did you do last?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
time you were there, I was beside myself, aaron
couldn't go to the glory, I, I'mpretty sure it was.
It was for gay men, um, and I Iremember walking up close
enough to see the rule board onthe way in, because any camp
like that has rules.
So it was, you know, and it waspretty standard stuff.
(13:47):
It was like be kind, berespectful, use a condom, like.
I don't remember what the ruleswere, but there were list rules
and I remember I was like how dothey, how do they execute this
club, um, successfully and in away that doesn't get them in
trouble?
Because, like, it seems reallydangerous to have, because
there's still like assault andthings at burns.
It's not like it's, I thinkit's less, but it still takes
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place.
So how, how can you offer aspace like that and know that
your camp isn't going to be theapex of bad situations?
Um, because I don't think theircamp is manned.
I think they set it up and theyleave.
I can't imagine there's a spaceinside where people just chill
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out, where there's like you know.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Place to relax your jaw.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
There's not glory hole.
Hall of Honours.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
No, I don't think so.
I could be wrong.
I literally I'm not allowed in.
And if I am allowed in andmisunderstood, um, I didn't, I
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didn't, I wasn't bold enough tojust walk into the be the woman
that burns at the end of Burningman and it's this big sacred
space that's built and it'sbeautiful, and people go there
and they leave.
Whatever the fuck it is theyneed to leave behind, or they
lost someone or whatever.
There's a lot of pets in therenot the actual pets, but
pictures of them.
(15:25):
There's a lot of like fuck.
Cancer this year, this lastyear was a lot of fuck.
Fentanyl Fentanyl Is that theone?
Yeah, that's the.
Fentanyl no, fentanyl is killingpeople yeah there was a lot of
fuck, fentanyl, which is new,that has never been in there
before and that was new thislast year.
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People's parents that havepassed whole wedding dresses
it's like you can't go in thereand not cry.
It's really beautiful andmoving, anyways.
So we're affiliated notofficially affiliated, but ours
supports what the temple offers.
So you have this one campthat's like doing this very like
quiet, focused work, and ourdirect neighbor is just a whole
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bunch of glory holes.
So we have a lot of and inBurning man, neighborhoods are
kind of a little hard tonavigate.
You get an address like fiveo'clock in G and you go to five
o'clock in G and there's, likeyou know, eight different camps
in that one area.
So we had a lot of dudes comingup to us and being like is this
five o'clock in G?
And we'd be like, yeah.
They'd be like what is this?
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We'd be like, oh, it'sWishmaker.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And they'd be like, oh, because they didn't really
want to ask or say it.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I mean the nature, the nature of a glory hole.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Download camp is discreet, yeah, so I don't know,
I feel like I could imagine aglory hole camp called wish
maker, though just that's truethat would, that would be, yeah
but these guys would come up andthe first few had to be like um
, do you know where the downloadclub is?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
and we'd be like, oh, it's right next door and we're
not judging you, or whatever.
But once we realized what washappening, now all people had to
do was come up and be like uh,is this five o'clock and g?
Just this.
Would look on their face likethey're confused and be like
next door you're looking for theholes next door, the holes next
door um, uh, but but yeah, sothat's and it is.
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It is bonkers.
How many people are looking forthe download club?
It is occupied all of the time.
Oh, I'd live there.
It like there's a if you don'tand just in case I know they're
very common, but if you don'tknow what a glory hole is, it's
like a hole in a wall and youdon't know what or who is on the
other side, but you stick yourbits in and you fuck the other
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side.
So it's usually an anus ormouth and you don't know who it
is.
Am I correct?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
chosen is that you are correct, yeah, you are you
it.
It serves like the anonymouspurpose like.
So down low is like a termoriginated in like the
african-american male gaycommunity, since it was like
doubly ostracized inside of thecommunity, like to be gay, so
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like being being on the down lowwas just like you're a gay
black man.
Uh, it like extrapolated outout into just any discreet gay
hookups.
Um, so glory holes serve thatpurpose and and I was thinking
what probably the reason thatthey're like no women come here
is, I would say, 60 of men whoare at like bookstores or glory
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hole camps or situations thatare just like I am servicing a
horny need, um, that is easilyaccessible.
Um, I have been in bookstoresand like those types of
situation when like a couplewalks in or a woman walks in, um
, and it gets a weird fast, notnecessarily like dangerous all
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the time, but you definitelyhave a large group of men who
are straight but like they'rejust they would prefer to be
having sex with a woman, butthis is a compromise or a
consolation to just deal with.
I would like to come right now,and so if a woman walks into
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that environment, the radar oflike choice making is not as
good as in public and in general.
So it's probably just agenerally good rule to be like
no women come here.
All the men are come brained inhere, and it's just probably
better are you saying it'sprobably becomes problematic?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
like what do you mean by choices?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
bad choices are made so if I'm, if I want a blow job
and I would prefer a blow jobfrom a woman, but I can't get
one at one o'clock in themorning, um, from a random
stranger and I go to like aglory hole place to just be like
, because the other thing aboutglory holes is you can pretend
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it's whatever you want it to beLike.
Most people are aware that it'sdudes behind the hole, but if
it's because everything'sobscured, you can pretend it's
something else.
If you're in that mindsetwishing that you were getting a
bow drop from a woman, and thena woman publicly walks into that
location Like.
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A thing that I've seen happenoften is the place that I go,
that I've been to, that hasglory holes.
There's two rooms that haveholes in it on either side, so
there's three rooms, there'sholes to each room and if
there's, let's say, there's 15guys there and then a woman
walks into one of those rooms,everyone goes to that room.
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Now, it's not necessarily like Ipersonally have not seen, like
I've personally always seenpeople respect boundaries, um,
but you, you, I have definitelyneeded to, it is definitely
needed to be very adamantly andfirmly told to like no, this is
just a me and my husband thing.
No, I'm not accepting this.
Like, like, very like.
People are going to try likethat they, if a woman walks into
that situation, they're goingto become the focus of attention
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for a lot of people who arethere to come.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
But isn't there like a wall between her and?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
them Like I don't know.
I don't know how the camp isconfigured, but like there's, I
don't I doubt that the place isset up where I'm not going to
see other people in the camp atsome point, Like even if it is a
bunch of black box rooms likeyou still have to get to them
it's not like safety for thewoman, because it seems like
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that's kind of the issue you'rebringing up and it seems like
there's a wall there and she canchoose to do with whatever
comes through it or not.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Am I being?
Having not visited one myself,I'm unclear on the specifics,
but I thought there was like asolid divider.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yeah, once they're like in the in the room that has
the hole, it's not that big, itdoesn't matter.
I'm more mean.
If people see a woman travelingto the room and a hole, they're
going.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
That hole will become very popular.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Exactly hole they're going will become.
That hole will become verypopular, exactly, and so and
then then they have to exit andlike there'll be people outside
and like that can getuncomfortable, and and I I see
like let's just, let's just, wehave plenty of places where
people can have all kinds of sex.
Let's just eliminate this likeknown glory hole situation,
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since there's a lot of them.
And just like all dudes, gofind a hole, bring your knee
pads, have fun yeah, they'rethere every year, though.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
the download club is there every year and so is the
orgy dome.
The origin is very popular andthey have two sides.
First of all, they havemattresses on the floor.
During COVID, if you broughtyour own set of sheets, you got
to the front of the line.
I think they changed the sheetsafter each person there's.
The room is divided.
I've never been in, but myfriend has been in and she told
me all about it.
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The room is divided so you caneither go with a partner and go
to the side of the room whereyou're like just us and nobody
will bother you, but you're inlike the side of the room with
other people who are having sex,who are just there to have sex
with one another, and thenthere's another side of the room
that's like you can join us ifyou like.
So you go there with and likeif you're a man you can't get in
alone.
Obviously, I think mostlycouples get in and women the
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opposite of the down low club.
On the other side, if you arehaving sex, people can come over
and kind of join you and I'msure at times in there it's
become a giant orgy, but they'realso there every year.
As far as kink goes, what are myexperiences of kink and flip
side?
From my memory there's lesskink.
I mean it's there I'm notsaying it's not there, but I
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cannot recall a kink camp flipside.
I know that kink is throughoutthe burn, like last year.
I distinctly recall gettingflogged at a camp Like there was
.
There was some people I knowand I went to their camp and
they had a whole like set up forit, like this, like a, not a
massage table, but like a thingthat you get on and your, your
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butt sticks out, like is you'rekind of kneeling and kind of
your hips are at 90 degrees.
I'm not sure what it was orwhat to call it, but you get on
this thing and then you getflogged.
So I was like, oh my god, I'venever been flogged so a spanking
bench yeah, I was gonna saymaybe spanking or flogging bench
something like that.
Um, I got on that and then, andthen she, she flogged me and I
was very surprised becauseflogging doesn't really hurt,
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but it definitely left bruisesand I'm hard to bruise like a
couple little very blue bruises.
I was like this is, it wasbizarre, but it was a fun
experience.
And at Burning man I'm surethere's more kink things.
But since I don't go therelooking for like specifically
kinky experiences, I I don't gothere looking for like
specifically kinky experiences.
I don't go there looking forspecifically sexual experiences
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generally.
If it happens, great, but if itdoesn't, I'm not like on the
lookout for that.
If I did, I would probably runinto people that were involved
in kink and would find the kinkthere.
Like one of the campmates thatI camp with at Flipside is
submissive and he has a chastityon all the time.
He has a collar, he has thingson his wrist, he has things on
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his ankles, he's like, and whenhe got really high he was like
can I just be at your feetplease?
And I was like sure, Soundsgreat.
Just bring it out in peoplecases.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Just bring it out in people my happy place beneath
the toes of the same.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Um, so it's like it's there for sure.
People walk around and likeleather and people will have
props and paddles and things.
Um, and then at burning man, myfavorite kink memory is walking
into a camp and it was thisgiant canvas tent and I didn't
really know what was happeningin there.
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I was just following my groupof friends.
They also didn't really know,but we go in and the entire
space is just built out forinverting people in Shibari.
Oh, that's dope.
Yeah, so, and you know I'm surethe people in the camp were
super into Shibari.
So, yeah, so, and you know, I'msure the people in the camp
were super into Shibari.
But when you build a space likethat, everybody who's into
Shibari looks for you, finds youand comes and participates.
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So at this point it must've beenlike prime time or whatever,
because we walked in and thespace is packed with people
being tied up and inverted andthere's like seats all around so
you can watch it happen.
And this was my first reallyexcellent view into seeing
people get tied up and hung andlike the effect it had on them
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and it was like really gracefuland beautiful them.
And it was like really gracefuland beautiful and I was like,
how do I get somebody to do thisto me?
Because I just like beingupside down, but also because it
looks like such a lovelyexperience.
And it was, um, you know,everybody's really involved,
because I know being inverted islike you have to be very
careful and focused andeverything, so I can't really go
up to somebody and be like, um,can you do me next?
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It looks like all these peoplelike you come with a partner or
whatever, which isn't always thecase, but, um, it was really
lovely, uh, and super packed,and we hung out there and
watched for a while and I, oh,there's spanking everywhere.
People just run around withthose little crops that have
like hearts on the end and youhit people in the butt and
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they'll have a heart or redheart mark on their butt or
whatever, on the end and you hitpeople in the butt and they'll
have a heart or red heart markon their butt or whatever.
Those are everywhere.
There's like spin, spin thewheel and do have to.
You have to do whatever thewheel lands on and sometimes
it's take a shot.
Sometimes it gets slapped inthe face, sometimes it's like
it's spanked really hard.
You know it's like it's justthroughout, it's, it
reverberates throughout.
Um, yeah, and there's, there's,definitely it's there because
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there's the people that go withthe burning man.
A lot of them are very, a lotof them are very kinky, but
they're just, they're not in akink camp.
So anything you want can befound.
I was going to say at worst youjust find your people.
At best there's an entire campdedicated to whatever your kink
is.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Am I wrong to guess that there is a certain presence
of pet play there?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
I, because I know that, like, eclectic costumes
are often part of it, and likebeing able to have that place to
for the pet players to likepublicly have that
self-expression Absolutely.
Place to for the pet players tolike publicly have that
self-expression absolutely.
Um, maybe I'm just projectingwhat I want to have occur when I
go with you next year.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Um, no, there are definitely there, definitely is
like I see fox tails, a lot,tails, a lot, and sometimes I'm
like, is that tail plugged intoan anus or is it attached to
your belt?
I can't tell, but either wayit's a tail and sometimes it
definitely is a butt plug,sometimes it is not, and there's
a lot of masks.
So, and what's fun, what'sfunny and subtle about it is
everybody dresses up, right?
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Radical self-expression is oneof the principles of these
events.
So if you are a fucking horseor a fox or a tiger or whatever,
if that's what you feel and youlove dressing up like that
thing, you'll find somebody thatis embodying that energy of
that animal.
If you are a horse becauseyou're into horseplay, or a dog
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because you love being a dog,what's great about it is I will
pass by you and be like, oh,that person has dog ears on and
a tail, and my brain isn't like,oh, they love to be a dog,
right, it's just like supersubtle and kind of just mesh as
well with the rest of what'sgoing on.
So, yeah, there are peoplerunning around with masks and
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things on.
It's also really hot.
So the dedication to wearingleather or latex or vinyl or
anything is like man, there's anexpiry time on it and it's I
think it's about 10 minutes yeah, couldn't be me.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
well, a question that I had was because I've always
wondered this you know, burningman flip side lends itself to
having a little camp, like Iimagine it would be something
there.
But then I I was like, well, Iguess they're in separate
locations because effectively, alittle, a little camp, well,
it's just an amusement park forchildren actually, and so there
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are children there.
How does that?
How does that go?
Or have you seen that, or haveyou?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I mean, how do parents not walk into it and go
oh look, this is for you, jimmyand Jimmy's five.
Somebody has to walk up and belike actually it's not for Jimmy
, but he's welcome here.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
So it's called the free candy camp.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
I think.
I think it would be.
I don't know how do I feelabout it?
Because little spaces aregenerally, the spaces themselves
are generally non-sexual, butthey emulate a school
environment, an amusement parkenvironment, a children's
environment.
But it would be adults in likepajamas and stuff, enjoying
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those things, as kids wouldenjoy them, should kids be there
.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I have a feeling.
Oh gosh, I was going to say Ibet they would just play with
the kid, you know.
I have a feeling what wouldhappen is that there are
moderators in those situationsand, first of all, there's
probably like some sort ofindication of what's going on
outside and it's a closed spaceand there's somebody inside.
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So if you walk in with yourfive-year-old you're like, hey,
just so you know, this isn't aspace for children, and they
have that conversation.
There are also placesspecifically for children at
Burning man.
So while they do run aroundwherever more at Burning man,
less at Flipside, there's awhole village called Kidsville.
So if you're a parent withchildren that are coming, you
can stay here, you can stay here, you can stay there and there
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are things for kids to do.
People watch each other's like.
I've not been in Kidsville, butI know that that's where a lot
of the children are, so it'sunlikely that they leave that
space.
I mean, sure they do, but Ihave a feeling a lot of them
stay closer to that and don'tnecessarily go exploring all
over the city and getting lost.
That being said, I do have adistinct memory of seeing like a
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blonde eight year old boyrunning around with his address
just sharpied on the side of hisarm, like you know, three
o'clock, and he was just on theside of his arm and that kid was
just like having a ball doingwhatever he wanted.
Having a ball doing whatever hewanted.
I was like he's gonna.
He's gonna go far in life ifhe's that age and is not afraid
to be outside of the bounds ofkidsville or whatever.
(32:44):
Um, but yeah, anything you wantis there.
There's also hushville.
That's an entire village,people who don't want it to be
super loud, so there's like adecibel limitation, I think
there's also.
I think there's's like adecibel limitation.
I think there's also like agenerator rule, like it's all
non-gasoline fueled power, soit's quiet.
In that aspect too, I might becombining two different villages
(33:06):
.
There's might be the one that'sa clean energy and one that's
Hushville.
But yeah, whatever you want canbe found there.
I love burns.
I love them so much.
They're a lot of fun and peopledo magic, wonderful, amazing
things at them.
The art that people bring isspectacular.
I've been lucky enough to bringdrones to flip side the last
two years and I brought them toBurning man last year and I will
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do that again this year.
But yeah, there is absolutelykink at these places.
I mean, you have to be a littlemore careful because, like I
said, you can't get essayedthere.
Um, so, and you know, I feel.
I feel like it's less.
It happens less because you'realso in a place where if
somebody, like if it becomesclear that something
inappropriate is happening andpeople see it, the person doing
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the assaulting will not lastlong, like people swarm against
them If you get caught.
But like there's likeeverybody's, everybody, every
type of person is there.
So the bro that gets drunk andjust wants to bang a lady, you
know it's there.
Just because they're burningman doesn't make them a better
person, but the environment issuch that people are always
talking about safety and consentand all of those things and
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there's open conversations aboutI remember I went to some.
I went to some camp and theywere having a whole conversation
about polyamory and like forpeople who didn't know if they
wanted to do it or not orsomething like can't remember,
and it turned into aconversation about finding
unicorns and like being you know.
Yeah, I can't really recall,but there's all like whatever
you want to learn about somebodywho's doing a talk about it.
(34:35):
There's ted talks everywhere inthat place.
I highly recommend it sweatyass.
Ted talks sweaty, dusty, dirty,sexy ass.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Ted talks aaron, you said you wanted there to be
animal play well, I would justimagine that it would be a place
where there'd be a lot of petplay, because it's there's a lot
of of the dressing up and thedifferent outfits, so it's
something that I would justimagine would be there.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Oh, you're saying that you would like to see.
I haven't seen any full-onponies, but that would be great.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
That would be quite a commitment.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
with the heat, I mean more likely at Burning man,
because when the sun goes downit gets cold At Flipside.
Usually when the sun goes downgets like cold um at flip side.
Usually when the sun goes downit's a little more bearable too.
But this year it was not.
So you just have to wait, youhave to.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
You have to wear your leather corset at night and
well, I mean, and to to the tothe point, like, like furries
and pet play subs they are.
They are, they are builtdifferent because, like anytime
that I have come across a furry,uh, brony, uh, pet play sub,
(35:49):
like their, their masochistlevel is unique.
Because I'm just like you'recrawling around on your knees
all day in a full pup maskoutside eating out of a bowl the
whole day, the whole day.
Like that sounds painful andhot, not hot in the sexy way,
(36:15):
hot isn't temperature wise, butif it brings you joy, live your
life like, please.
And I say that like I wouldliterally.
I would literally be in theglory hole camp for hours.
I would easily suck dick forhours every day.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
It's for you, tosin, I put it up for you.
I've never been in a burn andnot seen people leash either.
That's pretty common.
And there's this one reallyiconic Burning man picture that
I love.
That is a woman who in who'slike fucking hot and she's in
(36:53):
like knee-high boots and um,forgive me, I don't know the
words or which culture iscorrect.
Yeah, but she's okay.
So she's got like a hijab on.
I don't, yeah, I don't know ifit's like afghani or iranian or
what like what.
I think she was just kind ofencompassing them all, but she
is appropriately ethnic and shehas her face covered and her
(37:14):
hair covered and the hijab orwhatever it is comes down just
to like below her nipples.
So you get a lot of reallygreat under boob, but she's not
fully exposed and she's got likeunderwear and boots and you
just see her eyes and the restof her face and hair and
shoulders is covered and she's.
She's like walking down a busystreet.
Her hand is up, she's got aleash in it and at the end of
(37:35):
the leash is a man who's alsodressed in appropriate, like
ethnic garb, like hat and tunic,and he's and she's just yanking
him and you can see the look inhis face is like that, like
it's a little like concerned,but like the, the like gender
flip there is so great and it'sso hot and I was like how do I?
(37:57):
yeah, I was like how do I bethis woman for the rest of my
life?
Not just just the confidenceand the like this, the, the fuck
you stereotype and like I don'tknow.
It was just great.
It's on the internet somewhere.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
I have it in my phone somewhere if you google hijab
burning man, it is the first hiton google images.
Looking at it now and fuck yeahI have to go almost there how
do you spell hijab?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
h-i-g-h-i-j-a-b the job burning man.
Oh oh yeah, there it is yeahthat's a, that's a burka
technically a burka?
Yeah, thank you, I thoughtburka's covered everything the.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
The burka is, the is full body, but she's doing this
version of it.
Hijab is just.
The face is open, I think.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Leave it to Reddit the top comment.
This is actually a niqabN-I-Q-A-B, since it only covers
the face.
A burqa covers the entire body.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Yeah, and a hijab just covers the hair.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
I love that the reddit comments are basically
the conversation that we justhey, reddit knows also that
outfit is so good.
I've it's like.
I'm like, how do I was I wantto do this, but I like it's been
done so well that I'm like it'sand I don't have a guy to carry
around on a leash.
That's also ethnicallyappropriate.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
It's just so great oh , we can find one in 12 seconds,
that's.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
That is not a hurdle casey, you dressed me up like
that, I guarantee I yeah, I wasgonna be more ethnically
appropriate than that you'll doit for me, aaron.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
You're so great, thank you I was about to say I
was like this picture.
I was like that's just a dudewith a beard and you think so.
Uh, he does not look middleeastern in any way.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
To me that looks like I think he kind of, I guess he
could be italian that looks likethat looks like ben guys kyle,
yeah chad and again I could bewrong.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
I would need to like there's.
There's a lot more markers thatI that I would need, but I'm
like you know, he like she'smore tan than he is and yeah for
all we know, she's actuallynative american exactly all
kinds of things.
Like I, I think yeah, you know,I, I am, I appreciate the
(40:32):
statement period like, like, Idon't care, there are people on
the Twitter space who are goingto cancel people, being like you
can't make political statementsunless you qualify, and I'm
like define qualify.
What are we doing?
Yeah, I was like it's Burningman.
She's naked, with a leash and aman on it.
We're not like man.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
She's naked, with a leash and a man on it.
We're not like and for us allwe know this could be like she
could be adhering to herreligious practices and beliefs
of not showing her face you know, oh, that's.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
That's actually a fun game, where you know, because
there's a lots of like christianloopholes that are ridiculous,
um that like people either donon-ironically loophole yeah,
yeah, poop, poop hole loophole.
Um, you know it's it's.
It's fine to masturbate ifyou're not thinking about
(41:24):
another person.
Um, you know, I've heard somestranger ones, but we'll save it
for the special guest that youhave coming on, because I have
interesting stories on that one.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
So question for y'all a little left field, but now
that we're all a little turnedon from that photo sexy
adventures.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Oh for me.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Yeah, what reports do y'all have from the front?
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Hmm, what am I doing?
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Oh, outside of Burns I was, was like I'm so sorry to
disappoint you.
I was trying to escape my ownbody.
Um, I have no sexy adventuresto talk about.
Um, I've been seeing my, mydomestic disciplinarian subbie,
though, and she's been, butthere's nothing new there.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
I dropped a hundred dollars on the dildo.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Whoa.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
And so, and that's for you.
Yeah, I've been.
I have been forever on thesearch of a fake penis that
replicates as much of the mouthfeel possible for my particular
type of oral fixation like.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
You want a penis it feels I'm sorry, you want a
dildo that feels like a penis inyour mouth yes and so, and this
one's pretty good, it's prettygood and so I had.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
I had a partner shove it down my throat while I
masturbated recently.
It was lovely.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Yeah, it was great All right.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Well, I'll just use this as a story to share with
y'all.
Like I had one of the mostincredibly sexy experiences two,
maybe three weeks ago.
So Sarita and I have this onestrap on.
That is where the dildo partvibrates, but it also has, like
it has, an egg that goes upinside of her.
(43:21):
That's kind of a G-spotstimulator.
It's got a clit sucker on itand then it's got the vibrating
phallus part of it.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
So many things.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
Yeah, it's fantastic.
Phallus part of it, so manythings.
Yeah, it's fantastic.
So we I've been doing the athome like hair removal treatment
thing and so did that.
And I was like, hey, use somecoconut oil on me.
And that transitioned into herpegging me a little bit with it
and I told her to first, likestart massaging my back and use
(43:57):
that same like energy to peg meLike so kind of like kind of
sharing a bit of like the vibeof like I want it to feel like a
massage.
And she did that for a whileand it was really hot and we
were good.
So it was like, hey, let's, Ithink we had to go to dinner or
something like that.
We come back.
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I put a butt plug in her.
She puts the entire setup backon and starts slowly working me
and start slowly working me.
Things lined up where the clitsucker was right where it needed
to be, the egg was going andshe was now full because she had
(44:43):
this butt plug in her.
All of a sudden, I feel that,like I remember I reached behind
, I like grabbed her thighs andshe pushed herself kind of deep
inside of me and then juststarted coming and did not stop.
Like their puddle formed underme, she was squirting and it
kept on going for, I swear, likea minute.
(45:05):
And I started feeling like waterhitting my back and I was like
my back and I was like man.
She must have really squirted.
No, it was over a minute longorgasm that she was crying and
those were tears from the orgasmhitting my back and I will tell
you oh, hell yeah the.
(45:26):
She describes it as her mostintense orgasm ever and it was
just a beautiful and fucking hotmoment.
Um, I'll look up the name ofthe vibrator to to share with
everyone, but yes, please yeahthat's so great oh man, that's I
I would like to have thatexperience that I.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Most of the porn that I watch is as farm to table,
literally one of the only otherones grass fed yeah, grass free
range organic hormone free yeah,I prefer to.
I prefer to climax to things, toporn that is made for me by
people I know or who have doneit for me, um and so, or of me
(46:12):
pleasing someone else.
But I will.
I will wander into the the, the, the wild, with the number one
thing being she comes whilepegging, like it's my, like, it
is one of my favorite thingsthere.
Strangely enough, there's alimited set of it.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
It's not a lot so I just sent you the link for those
at home.
Strap hyphen on hyphen me dotus absolutely brilliant so this?
it has a vibrator and a clitsucker uh, yes, and so you use a
special harness that allows youto like slide it through.
(46:54):
And I forget the name of theharness Tosin.
You mentioned it once, but it'sbasically Jockstrap.
There's another one like that.
Nonetheless.
Yes, it's a great fucking time.
Now they have them in alldifferent like sizes and
measured some of the currentstuff that I have and was like,
yeah, I'll go with the medium,they're so expensive, but I kind
(47:19):
of.
Now I'm like, well, I mean alittle bit more fullness, I
don't know yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
One of my, one of my partners has the non vibrating
purple one, which is the mainone that I've been pegged with
in the recent times, and big fun.
You know I've not not crying intears for a minute, but you
know she's.
(47:45):
She's definitely come thrustinginto me, which is elite If you
have not experienced it as ahuman being, like that's the
whole game.
Honestly, that was a veryeffective fix for an insecurity
that I've had for a lifetime,which is like like getting
(48:06):
pegmore, because I'm, I'm, wasgenerally worried about being
like.
You know, if I'm havingintercourse and I'm coming too
fast or like my, the intercourseis not like making them climax,
um, that they would prefer notto be having it.
And then you know, having bottomfor a while and had someone
(48:27):
like climax while they're insideme, which I've never had a
prostate orgasm.
I've never even gotten closeand you know I still want to do
it, like I was just like, yeah,no, I don't care, I don't care
if it's four and a half minutes,let's go do it, do it again.
And the experience and theexperience of you being the
(48:48):
recipient of like a climax that,while being penetrated, is like
its own glorious event, like,like, easily.
I will be like, yeah, run up inthere for 45 seconds and if you
, if you come like that, go forit, and I will go on about my
day feeling full, better andwonderful yeah, a plus life
(49:13):
experience.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Yeah also, you've never had a prostate orgasm I'm
not.
I'm not I've only had probablyabout five and I had to check
that I didn't like comeafterwards because I thought
that it was like a right like itmine.
Let me not rub it in.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Wait, I don't know what you mean.
You had to check that youdidn't come.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
So it's one of those things where it is very intense
and it almost and I was unclearas to whether I was like
physically coming or not, but itfelt like there was something
about it that was distinctlydifferent and it was the just
(50:00):
probably the intensity of theexperience and the fact that it
was emanating from my prostate.
But with proper pressure onyour prostate, you feel it on
the tip of your dick, and sofrom that and like that shaking
type of orgasm, I wasn't clearon whether it was like I came
(50:23):
orgasm or not, as that alsoindicates whether-.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
You mean, you came as in, you ejaculated?
Speaker 3 (50:31):
Yes, yes, whether, yeah, I ejaculated or not did
you ejaculate?
No, not from the prostateorgasm, and that's awesome too,
because you just had thisamazing experience.
You catch your breath and thenyou can still have sex.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
And orgasm like again with ejaculating.
Speaker 3 (50:53):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Whoa.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
Now, these things are rare.
I mean, these are like shootingstars, blue moons.
They do not occur that often,but they're.
Speaker 1 (51:03):
Yeah, I mean, my problem has been like I'm not
flexible enough to do itmanually.
I don't or or have theendurance to do it manually by
myself.
Um, I haven't had the time orlike found the free time to like
experiment that with someoneelse I have gotten.
(51:25):
I have seen the light at theend of the tunnel right.
There's been a couple ofexperiences where it's just like
tunnel right.
There's been a couple ofexperiences where it's just like
oh, if we kept doing this exactthing for a while, something
interesting is going to happen.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
Um, but that's when you say don't you dare stop well
, one.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
It felt like it felt.
It still felt like it was likewe got a, we got a bit of
railroad to go before we getthere and, like one of them,
like the proper amount of lubewasn't used, so like I didn't, I
didn't have much more roadway,so it was just like I was like,
oh, I probably can only takeabout another 10 minutes of this
, um, and one of them I wasdoing a shoot, so I was
(52:09):
distracted, and the other onewas like you know, they were
like perched on their toes in abed to do it, and that's a lot
of that.
That's a high physical demand,and so, because they would like,
in order for the work, that Ihave to remain in that position,
(52:29):
and if you're like perched onyour toes, like fully twerk,
thrusting to pull that off, likeI don't know how long you can
do that, and if you haven't liketrained to do that, it is fun
watching your partner get alittle winded pegging.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
Oh yeah, it takes it takes work.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
That is.
It is I'm not gonna say themost misogynist part about me,
but it is definitely like a.
It's a.
It feels like a very andrewtate moment in my soul.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Are you kidding me?
As if squatting on y'all'sdicks till burnout in our thighs
isn't a thing?
Are you kidding me right now?
Speaker 1 (53:08):
that's not I what I have done.
Both I have written on top.
It is exhausting.
That is it.
That's not I what I have done.
Both I have written on top.
It is exhausting.
That is that's not what I'msaying there is, but like the,
the particular switch,especially if that person has
complained about, or you havehistory of people complaining
(53:29):
about like physically not beingable to do that for the whole
time, or why are you tired, orall this other stuff.
Because I had a lot of partnersthat have been like the ratio
of being ridden to me being ontop is like one in a hundred and
and that that particular persondidn't peg me and so generally
(53:50):
my the andrew tate in quotesfeeling uh is not towards the
person that's doing it, it's thehistorical people who have been
like it's not that hard, it'slike why are you, why are you so
complaining?
Speaker 3 (54:03):
this is not andrew tate.
This is very feminist.
It is.
This is a celebrating equality,a quality.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
Well, no, it's hard for everyone it's the, it's the
schadenfreude of taking pleasurein the, in the torment.
I'm being like, yeah, you'retired, yeah, that shit's
exhausting and I'm verycomfortable right now.
Just laying down this feelsgreat and again I that that
(54:31):
particular mind phrase is whatI'm talking about and again I am
grateful to the people puttingin all the work, doing that.
I am happy to be on top.
I've had plenty of expending, alot of energy experiences.
It's not relegated to men andwomen.
I know plenty of lazy men likeall of that, like all of that,
this, but that particularthought that happens when like,
(54:55):
uh, I've, when I've been beingpegged and a partner is
exhausted the little tinygremlin, that's just like
happens.
And again I got laughed at whenthe first time that I rode um my
partner who begs me and I waslike reverse cowgirl doing the
(55:16):
whole thing and I was just likeeverything burns immediately,
yeah, Immediately, and I'm justlike, oh, geez, and it's like,
and how good it feels only getsyou so far so quick I every, we
(55:38):
all have it hard.
It's it's hard out here okayit's hard out here.
Yeah, anyways, all you sexybeasts, until next time let's
burn and get peg, find a gloryhole do thigh stretches and
exercises, and thank you toeverybody who bounces up and
down on penises or thrusts intoholes.
Speaker 2 (56:00):
Yeah, thanks, we appreciate the physical effort
put the work in thanks fortuning in to another episode of
talk dirty to me, and we'llcatch you on the next one bye.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
I was sobbing on our couch because I was just like
admitting this part of myselfthat I had not told anyone about
those first explorations arereally the um, the most intimate
and the ones that really kindof stick.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
That's something that I still I am still.
Speaker 1 (56:29):
I've been in therapy.
Still.
I'm struggling to like turn offin my brain.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
We come out with these guards and it's hard to
then figure out how to put themdown.
Speaker 3 (56:40):
I want to feel more empowered in my body because I
grew up not feeling that way.
Speaker 2 (56:44):
Closen Therapy is wiping away tears.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
I am, that was perfect.
Speaker 3 (56:50):
I look forward to the day when our society has
progressed past the point whereit's just like this kind of
universally accepted witch huntagainst anybody who even tries
to ask for help.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
So happy that a podcast like this exists, that
you guys have a forum where youknow you can talk so openly
about things, and justespecially for me, like every
episode is eye-opening on adifferent perspective.
Speaker 3 (57:14):
This is the podcast I always wished existed, so I'm
excited to be a part of itreally does seem like we're
helping people this podcastreally is sexy glad we're back
for a third season.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
Well, I guess we should do our outro um casey do
the, do the thingy.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
But do you know, do it, do it sexy talk dirty to me
is a podcast by little reegadeFilms.
Speaker 1 (57:33):
It stars Casey Samuels, you heard what the man
said, do it sexy, okay, okay,I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
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Speaker 1 (57:44):
Talk Dirty to.
Speaker 2 (57:45):
Me is a podcast by Little Renegade Films.
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Thank you.
Well, well, well, go ahead and open up your ears,
your mind and whatever else youneed.
You're listening to Talk Dirtyto Me.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello all you sexy beasts and welcome back to Talk
Dirty to Me, the podcast withthree friends with three
different perspectives on kink,fetish and sex Talk dirty to one
another.
In the studio today we haveAaron
, the experimentalist.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Salutations.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Tosin Aufeso the kink oracle.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Ahoy.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
And Casey Sammy E myself, york Neighborhood,
femdom.
How's everybody doing today?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Good Fantastic.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Amazing.
It's really hot in Texas.
I don't know how hot it is foreverybody else in the other
parts of the world, but it isfucking hot.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Man, my air conditioner broke too.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
No, how did you survive it's been broke for
three days.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Honestly, it's an interesting assistance to my
joints.
My body usually hurts a lot,but since I'm sweating profusely
and drinking copious amounts ofwater now, my joints don't hurt
as bad.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
You don't look sweaty .
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I mean, I bathed before this We'll see how I look
in an hour.
So, casey, you experienced theheat first time firsthand this
weekend.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
The first time ever in my life.
The first time ever, yes, neverbeen hot before this weekend
she finally left the airconditioning.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
First hand.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I did.
I went to Flipside, which isTexas's, one of Texas's regional
burns.
And if you don't know what aburn is, how does one define a
burn?
Regional burns are smallversions of Burning man.
Burning man is a burn, it's anart and music and whatever you
(02:05):
want it to be festival.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I'm going to go out on a limb and say if you're
listening to this podcast, youmay not have been to Burning man
, but you know about Burning man.
What makes the regional onesdifferent?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Well, the environment is definitely different at
Burning man.
It's super hot but also superdry, so there is no sweat really
, just evaporates immediatelyoff your body and there's no
bugs, whereas in Texas it'shumid as a buck and the
(02:42):
mosquitoes this year were thesize of small dogs.
Um, lord, yeah, it was a wholething.
Um, so you know the, the whatam I?
What?
The what am I looking for?
Like the experience isextremely different based on the
environment.
You in, you're in, but likeit's also like it's smaller.
So I know like it turns out.
(03:03):
I know a lot of people therejust randomly by showing up.
It's like a tighter community.
You know, the art is more onpar with what's capable to be
done in the desert at burningman, but you'll have, you know,
(03:25):
smaller scale, scale things thatare just as cool.
Um, it's, it's more intimate,which is nice.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Um yeah, what's the shower situation like?
Because I mean burning man, Ihear, is its own.
Like you get like sandeverywhere and you bring in all
your water, is there like ariver or a place to de-sweat
yourself?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, yeah.
So there's a couple answers tothat question.
At Burning man we build our ownshower so we can shower once a
day, and then at Flipside it'stwofold.
There is a river that you canget in.
It's most of the time is dry,given the nature of Texas.
(04:10):
This year it was not for somereason, and the water was going
very fast, so we got in it everyday out of the need to survive.
Sometimes it's lower and notmoving as fast, which means
there's leeches.
So you kind of have to pickyour battle, which means there's
leeches.
Yeah, kind of have to pick yourbattle, um, but which means
there's leeches, yeah, I'm out,I'm out, you're out of the river
.
Just the whole burn, the wholeburn flip side.
(04:32):
For me, there were no leechesthis year, toson oh, okay, I'm
back in yeah, yeah, this year itwas running fast, it was full,
you could get in and havedelightful time.
All sorts of naked people wentto the river.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah, I'm definitely back in.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
And then there's also a couple of camps that are
shower camps.
So if you don't want to get inthe river, you just walk.
You know, a quarter mile downthe road and there's a camp that
offers showers for everybodyand you take a shower.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Amazing, yeah, it's wonderful so I'm curious about
so much.
I've got some friends that arein the lifestyle, that go
religiously actually formerguests of the podcast, greg and
terry, yeah yeah, greg texted meand asked me if I would be
there so they go.
I mean they also go to Burningman and I know they have a great
(05:26):
time wherever they go.
But I was curious because Iknow they go there and play and
I'm on a Facebook group forFlipside and I kind of read some
of the comments and how much isit like drug-fueled sex going
(05:46):
on or what is like the kinkslash sex scene at something
like Flipside?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Okay, so Too broad of a question?
No, no, it's not too broad.
I think people's opinions ofBurning man and Burns in general
if you don't know anything isthat it is a drug fueled orgy.
That is a common thought thatpeople have and I will tell you
that burns are the experienceyou want.
(06:16):
So is are there drugsAbsolutely?
Are there orgies Absolutely?
If you want to find thosethings, you will find those
things.
If you're not into those things, you'll magically never come in
contact with them.
I'm not really involved in thekink camps or sex camps at
(06:41):
Flipside or Burning man, so Ihave to purposefully look for
them if I want to find them andinteract with them.
I, now that we're having thisconversation, I realized that I
was probably at Greg and Terry'scamp.
Next to us, um, was the upsidedown pineapple camp and I, um, I
I had to have, you know, likethere's so many weird camp names
(07:04):
that I didn't even think twiceabout it.
Somebody had to be, like youknow, there's swingers, and I
was like, oh my God, I've seenon pineapple that's the swinger
camp.
So they were probably there andI just didn't know it.
There's definitely in Burningman, there's the orgy dome.
(07:24):
There's definitely an air oflike sexual freedom at all burns
and that, like I, wouldn'tnecessarily have like sex in
public or in front of people inthe.
You know the default world, thereal world outside of burns.
But there are a lot of peoplewho go and just like you're in a
(07:46):
tent and you don't care.
You know people, people willhear you or whatever.
Um, it's and it's it's morewidely accepted and people are
kind of you're not offended andif you are offended you're
probably not in the right place.
It's not.
I'm not trying to say thatthere's like people having sex
(08:06):
around you all the time.
It's just that it's a place ofradical self-expression and
freedom.
So the likelihood of somebodygoing turning the corner and
seeing some people having sex ona trampoline randomly is much
higher than it would be whereyou not at a burn.
But people aren't just shaggingeverywhere you go.
Um, there are definitely oh, Iwas gonna say a burning man.
(08:28):
There is the orgy dome, um,which is the I think, from my
experience, the most well-knownsex camp at burning man.
Um, and I can dive into alittle more how they, how they
logistically exist, um, giventhings like COVID and things
like that.
But and I know there's.
There's definitely kink campsand places to experience kink at
(08:48):
at flip side Gosh.
Where where do I start?
Yeah, so there's a Tantra campand they run workshops and stuff
.
They were actually weren'tthere this year but they're
there every other year.
They were in workshops andthings and like I'm sure they
have more sexually orientedexperiences that they can they
guide people through.
I've never been interested inlike having a deep, intimate
(09:10):
connection with a very sweatystranger um, so I don't
participate in that.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
It's fun I I recommend it.
If you like that stuffeverybody.
I mean the sweaty, strangerpart, not the I.
I've never done it at a flipside or Burning man.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
This year was like I did not like people have sex all
the time at Burns.
I've had sex at Burns, I'vegone with partners but like this
year was so hot and sweaty.
I literally one night was likehow do I take off my own skin?
(09:49):
Cause I don't want to touchmyself.
I can't sleep because I'mtouching myself at all times.
I don't mean a sexy way, I justmean like my skin is on my body
and I needed to be off, kind ofhot and sweaty.
So the thought of like touchinganother person was not the
answer.
Like the whole weekend, like ifsomebody wanted to like get
close enough to me to like touchme or stick things in me, I
would have been like been likeget fuck away from me right now
because you're as disgusting asI am unless you're an eye,
unless you're made of ice let'sgo then roll, let's roll um I do
(10:15):
okay.
So I have some memories of thesex camp.
At flip side, um, walk you justrandomly walking, usually okay,
usually Usually there there's,so there's children and adults
at these things.
So they plan the city in a waythat they're they're cognizant
of that.
So usually anything that's alittle more risque or X-rated is
put like around the corner,down the street and around the
(10:37):
corner.
So you have to make an effortto go there If you want to.
You're not just going to.
You're not going to be a kidand randomly happen upon anal
and have to go to your dad andbe like what is he doing?
to that other man you know um,but you, but you could happen
upon it if you have, if you havechildren and you're going.
It's not completely like thatis that is a risk, not that it's
(11:00):
negative or positive oranything, it's just something
that could occur.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
But like I do remember walking down the street
, I feel like it's a risk tohave to explain that before
you're ready to have to explainthat to your kids yeah, I
remember seeing like and here'sthe other neat thing about being
at burns like there can becrazy sexual things happening.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
unless you're focusing on it, you don't really
realize it.
Like I was walking down theroad and I was by the sex camp,
ecstatic cart or whatever.
This is many years ago andthere's a lady on like a massage
table.
And this is my like fuzzymemory from several years ago.
That might, at this point, beskewed or exaggerated or
whatever, but so my, the mymemory of this vision, this
(11:42):
thing that I saw, is thatthere's this woman, this hot
blonde woman, on a table.
Um, I don't actually know ifshe's hot, cause I didn't see
her face, but, um, I wasimagining that she is, because
that is what I would like, andshe's surrounded by, like I
don't know, like six.
There's six men around the table.
(12:04):
I don't know, like six.
There's six men around thetable.
I am I might be misrememberingthat they're all men, but I have
a feeling that they're all men.
There could be another woman inthere, I'm not sure.
Anyways, I remember her beingnaked and she's laying on the
table and they are justservicing her or having their
(12:26):
way with her, I am not surewhich.
Like somebody's making out withher, one person's on one boob,
one person's in the other boob,one person is in between her
legs, like there's just she'sjust surrounded.
And I think I happened to lookover at the moment of climax
when she like all of a suddenlike struggled in like a good
sexy way and like somebody heldher down or whatever, and I was
(12:46):
like, oh, sex camp and just keptwalking.
But it was like one of the more.
It was one of the more spicythings I accidentally happened
upon at at a burn Burning man acouple years ago.
The camp I was with was campnext to.
Camped next to our neighbor wasthe Download Club and the
(13:12):
Download Club is a camp of gloryholes.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Every single noun and verb.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
I remember you telling me about this I am not
allowed inside of this camp.
I think literally.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
What did you do last?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
time you were there, I was beside myself, aaron
couldn't go to the glory, I, I'mpretty sure it was.
It was for gay men, um, and I Iremember walking up close
enough to see the rule board onthe way in, because any camp
like that has rules.
So it was, you know, and it waspretty standard stuff.
(13:47):
It was like be kind, berespectful, use a condom, like.
I don't remember what the ruleswere, but there were list rules
and I remember I was like how dothey, how do they execute this
club, um, successfully and in away that doesn't get them in
trouble?
Because, like, it seems reallydangerous to have, because
there's still like assault andthings at burns.
It's not like it's, I thinkit's less, but it still takes
(14:09):
place.
So how, how can you offer aspace like that and know that
your camp isn't going to be theapex of bad situations?
Um, because I don't think theircamp is manned.
I think they set it up and theyleave.
I can't imagine there's a spaceinside where people just chill
(14:32):
out, where there's like you know.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Place to relax your jaw.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
There's not glory hole.
Hall of Honours.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
No, I don't think so.
I could be wrong.
I literally I'm not allowed in.
And if I am allowed in andmisunderstood, um, I didn't, I
(15:05):
didn't, I wasn't bold enough tojust walk into the be the woman
that burns at the end of Burningman and it's this big sacred
space that's built and it'sbeautiful, and people go there
and they leave.
Whatever the fuck it is theyneed to leave behind, or they
lost someone or whatever.
There's a lot of pets in therenot the actual pets, but
pictures of them.
(15:25):
There's a lot of like fuck.
Cancer this year, this lastyear was a lot of fuck.
Fentanyl Fentanyl Is that theone?
Yeah, that's the.
Fentanyl no, fentanyl is killingpeople yeah there was a lot of
fuck, fentanyl, which is new,that has never been in there
before and that was new thislast year.
(15:45):
People's parents that havepassed whole wedding dresses
it's like you can't go in thereand not cry.
It's really beautiful andmoving, anyways.
So we're affiliated notofficially affiliated, but ours
supports what the temple offers.
So you have this one campthat's like doing this very like
quiet, focused work, and ourdirect neighbor is just a whole
(16:10):
bunch of glory holes.
So we have a lot of and inBurning man, neighborhoods are
kind of a little hard tonavigate.
You get an address like fiveo'clock in G and you go to five
o'clock in G and there's, likeyou know, eight different camps
in that one area.
So we had a lot of dudes comingup to us and being like is this
five o'clock in G?
And we'd be like, yeah.
They'd be like what is this?
(16:31):
We'd be like, oh, it'sWishmaker.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And they'd be like, oh, because they didn't really
want to ask or say it.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I mean the nature, the nature of a glory hole.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Download camp is discreet, yeah, so I don't know,
I feel like I could imagine aglory hole camp called wish
maker, though just that's truethat would, that would be, yeah
but these guys would come up andthe first few had to be like um
, do you know where the downloadclub is?
Speaker 2 (16:56):
and we'd be like, oh, it's right next door and we're
not judging you, or whatever.
But once we realized what washappening, now all people had to
do was come up and be like uh,is this five o'clock and g?
Just this.
Would look on their face likethey're confused and be like
next door you're looking for theholes next door, the holes next
door um, uh, but but yeah, sothat's and it is.
(17:18):
It is bonkers.
How many people are looking forthe download club?
It is occupied all of the time.
Oh, I'd live there.
It like there's a if you don'tand just in case I know they're
very common, but if you don'tknow what a glory hole is, it's
like a hole in a wall and youdon't know what or who is on the
other side, but you stick yourbits in and you fuck the other
(17:41):
side.
So it's usually an anus ormouth and you don't know who it
is.
Am I correct?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
chosen is that you are correct, yeah, you are you
it.
It serves like the anonymouspurpose like.
So down low is like a termoriginated in like the
african-american male gaycommunity, since it was like
doubly ostracized inside of thecommunity, like to be gay, so
(18:07):
like being being on the down lowwas just like you're a gay
black man.
Uh, it like extrapolated outout into just any discreet gay
hookups.
Um, so glory holes serve thatpurpose and and I was thinking
what probably the reason thatthey're like no women come here
is, I would say, 60 of men whoare at like bookstores or glory
(18:35):
hole camps or situations thatare just like I am servicing a
horny need, um, that is easilyaccessible.
Um, I have been in bookstoresand like those types of
situation when like a couplewalks in or a woman walks in, um
, and it gets a weird fast, notnecessarily like dangerous all
(18:59):
the time, but you definitelyhave a large group of men who
are straight but like they'rejust they would prefer to be
having sex with a woman, butthis is a compromise or a
consolation to just deal with.
I would like to come right now,and so if a woman walks into
(19:19):
that environment, the radar oflike choice making is not as
good as in public and in general.
So it's probably just agenerally good rule to be like
no women come here.
All the men are come brained inhere, and it's just probably
better are you saying it'sprobably becomes problematic?
Speaker 2 (19:39):
like what do you mean by choices?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
bad choices are made so if I'm, if I want a blow job
and I would prefer a blow jobfrom a woman, but I can't get
one at one o'clock in themorning, um, from a random
stranger and I go to like aglory hole place to just be like
, because the other thing aboutglory holes is you can pretend
(20:01):
it's whatever you want it to beLike.
Most people are aware that it'sdudes behind the hole, but if
it's because everything'sobscured, you can pretend it's
something else.
If you're in that mindsetwishing that you were getting a
bow drop from a woman, and thena woman publicly walks into that
location Like.
(20:21):
A thing that I've seen happenoften is the place that I go,
that I've been to, that hasglory holes.
There's two rooms that haveholes in it on either side, so
there's three rooms, there'sholes to each room and if
there's, let's say, there's 15guys there and then a woman
walks into one of those rooms,everyone goes to that room.
(20:52):
Now, it's not necessarily like Ipersonally have not seen, like
I've personally always seenpeople respect boundaries, um,
but you, you, I have definitelyneeded to, it is definitely
needed to be very adamantly andfirmly told to like no, this is
just a me and my husband thing.
No, I'm not accepting this.
Like, like, very like.
People are going to try likethat they, if a woman walks into
that situation, they're goingto become the focus of attention
(21:15):
for a lot of people who arethere to come.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
But isn't there like a wall between her and?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
them Like I don't know.
I don't know how the camp isconfigured, but like there's, I
don't I doubt that the place isset up where I'm not going to
see other people in the camp atsome point, Like even if it is a
bunch of black box rooms likeyou still have to get to them
it's not like safety for thewoman, because it seems like
(21:43):
that's kind of the issue you'rebringing up and it seems like
there's a wall there and she canchoose to do with whatever
comes through it or not.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Am I being?
Having not visited one myself,I'm unclear on the specifics,
but I thought there was like asolid divider.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yeah, once they're like in the in the room that has
the hole, it's not that big, itdoesn't matter.
I'm more mean.
If people see a woman travelingto the room and a hole, they're
going.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
That hole will become very popular.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Exactly hole they're going will become.
That hole will become verypopular, exactly, and so and
then then they have to exit andlike there'll be people outside
and like that can getuncomfortable, and and I I see
like let's just, let's just, wehave plenty of places where
people can have all kinds of sex.
Let's just eliminate this likeknown glory hole situation,
(22:36):
since there's a lot of them.
And just like all dudes, gofind a hole, bring your knee
pads, have fun yeah, they'rethere every year, though.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
the download club is there every year and so is the
orgy dome.
The origin is very popular andthey have two sides.
First of all, they havemattresses on the floor.
During COVID, if you broughtyour own set of sheets, you got
to the front of the line.
I think they changed the sheetsafter each person there's.
The room is divided.
I've never been in, but myfriend has been in and she told
me all about it.
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The room is divided so you caneither go with a partner and go
to the side of the room whereyou're like just us and nobody
will bother you, but you're inlike the side of the room with
other people who are having sex,who are just there to have sex
with one another, and thenthere's another side of the room
that's like you can join us ifyou like.
So you go there with and likeif you're a man you can't get in
alone.
Obviously, I think mostlycouples get in and women the
(23:33):
opposite of the down low club.
On the other side, if you arehaving sex, people can come over
and kind of join you and I'msure at times in there it's
become a giant orgy, but they'realso there every year.
As far as kink goes, what are myexperiences of kink and flip
side?
From my memory there's lesskink.
I mean it's there I'm notsaying it's not there, but I
(23:55):
cannot recall a kink camp flipside.
I know that kink is throughoutthe burn, like last year.
I distinctly recall gettingflogged at a camp Like there was
.
There was some people I knowand I went to their camp and
they had a whole like set up forit, like this, like a, not a
massage table, but like a thingthat you get on and your, your
(24:17):
butt sticks out, like is you'rekind of kneeling and kind of
your hips are at 90 degrees.
I'm not sure what it was orwhat to call it, but you get on
this thing and then you getflogged.
So I was like, oh my god, I'venever been flogged so a spanking
bench yeah, I was gonna saymaybe spanking or flogging bench
something like that.
Um, I got on that and then, andthen she, she flogged me and I
was very surprised becauseflogging doesn't really hurt,
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but it definitely left bruisesand I'm hard to bruise like a
couple little very blue bruises.
I was like this is, it wasbizarre, but it was a fun
experience.
And at Burning man I'm surethere's more kink things.
But since I don't go therelooking for like specifically
kinky experiences, I I don't gothere looking for like
specifically kinky experiences.
I don't go there looking forspecifically sexual experiences
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generally.
If it happens, great, but if itdoesn't, I'm not like on the
lookout for that.
If I did, I would probably runinto people that were involved
in kink and would find the kinkthere.
Like one of the campmates thatI camp with at Flipside is
submissive and he has a chastityon all the time.
He has a collar, he has thingson his wrist, he has things on
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his ankles, he's like, and whenhe got really high he was like
can I just be at your feetplease?
And I was like sure, Soundsgreat.
Just bring it out in peoplecases.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Just bring it out in people my happy place beneath
the toes of the same.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Um, so it's like it's there for sure.
People walk around and likeleather and people will have
props and paddles and things.
Um, and then at burning man, myfavorite kink memory is walking
into a camp and it was thisgiant canvas tent and I didn't
really know what was happeningin there.
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I was just following my groupof friends.
They also didn't really know,but we go in and the entire
space is just built out forinverting people in Shibari.
Oh, that's dope.
Yeah, so, and you know I'm surethe people in the camp were
super into Shibari.
So, yeah, so, and you know, I'msure the people in the camp
were super into Shibari.
But when you build a space likethat, everybody who's into
Shibari looks for you, finds youand comes and participates.
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So at this point it must've beenlike prime time or whatever,
because we walked in and thespace is packed with people
being tied up and inverted andthere's like seats all around so
you can watch it happen.
And this was my first reallyexcellent view into seeing
people get tied up and hung andlike the effect it had on them
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and it was like really gracefuland beautiful them.
And it was like really gracefuland beautiful and I was like,
how do I get somebody to do thisto me?
Because I just like beingupside down, but also because it
looks like such a lovelyexperience.
And it was, um, you know,everybody's really involved,
because I know being inverted islike you have to be very
careful and focused andeverything, so I can't really go
up to somebody and be like, um,can you do me next?
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It looks like all these peoplelike you come with a partner or
whatever, which isn't always thecase, but, um, it was really
lovely, uh, and super packed,and we hung out there and
watched for a while and I, oh,there's spanking everywhere.
People just run around withthose little crops that have
like hearts on the end and youhit people in the butt and
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they'll have a heart or redheart mark on their butt or
whatever, on the end and you hitpeople in the butt and they'll
have a heart or red heart markon their butt or whatever.
Those are everywhere.
There's like spin, spin thewheel and do have to.
You have to do whatever thewheel lands on and sometimes
it's take a shot.
Sometimes it gets slapped inthe face, sometimes it's like
it's spanked really hard.
You know it's like it's justthroughout, it's, it
reverberates throughout.
Um, yeah, and there's, there's,definitely it's there because
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there's the people that go withthe burning man.
A lot of them are very, a lotof them are very kinky, but
they're just, they're not in akink camp.
So anything you want can befound.
I was going to say at worst youjust find your people.
At best there's an entire campdedicated to whatever your kink
is.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Am I wrong to guess that there is a certain presence
of pet play there?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
I, because I know that, like, eclectic costumes
are often part of it, and likebeing able to have that place to
for the pet players to likepublicly have that
self-expression Absolutely.
Place to for the pet players tolike publicly have that
self-expression absolutely.
Um, maybe I'm just projectingwhat I want to have occur when I
go with you next year.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Um, no, there are definitely there, definitely is
like I see fox tails, a lot,tails, a lot, and sometimes I'm
like, is that tail plugged intoan anus or is it attached to
your belt?
I can't tell, but either wayit's a tail and sometimes it
definitely is a butt plug,sometimes it is not, and there's
a lot of masks.
So, and what's fun, what'sfunny and subtle about it is
everybody dresses up, right?
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Radical self-expression is oneof the principles of these
events.
So if you are a fucking horseor a fox or a tiger or whatever,
if that's what you feel and youlove dressing up like that
thing, you'll find somebody thatis embodying that energy of
that animal.
If you are a horse becauseyou're into horseplay, or a dog
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because you love being a dog,what's great about it is I will
pass by you and be like, oh,that person has dog ears on and
a tail, and my brain isn't like,oh, they love to be a dog,
right, it's just like supersubtle and kind of just mesh as
well with the rest of what'sgoing on.
So, yeah, there are peoplerunning around with masks and
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things on.
It's also really hot.
So the dedication to wearingleather or latex or vinyl or
anything is like man, there's anexpiry time on it and it's I
think it's about 10 minutes yeah, couldn't be me.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
well, a question that I had was because I've always
wondered this you know, burningman flip side lends itself to
having a little camp, like Iimagine it would be something
there.
But then I I was like, well, Iguess they're in separate
locations because effectively, alittle, a little camp, well,
it's just an amusement park forchildren actually, and so there
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are children there.
How does that?
How does that go?
Or have you seen that, or haveyou?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I mean, how do parents not walk into it and go
oh look, this is for you, jimmyand Jimmy's five.
Somebody has to walk up and belike actually it's not for Jimmy
, but he's welcome here.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
So it's called the free candy camp.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
I think.
I think it would be.
I don't know how do I feelabout it?
Because little spaces aregenerally, the spaces themselves
are generally non-sexual, butthey emulate a school
environment, an amusement parkenvironment, a children's
environment.
But it would be adults in likepajamas and stuff, enjoying
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those things, as kids wouldenjoy them, should kids be there
.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I have a feeling.
Oh gosh, I was going to say Ibet they would just play with
the kid, you know.
I have a feeling what wouldhappen is that there are
moderators in those situationsand, first of all, there's
probably like some sort ofindication of what's going on
outside and it's a closed spaceand there's somebody inside.
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So if you walk in with yourfive-year-old you're like, hey,
just so you know, this isn't aspace for children, and they
have that conversation.
There are also placesspecifically for children at
Burning man.
So while they do run aroundwherever more at Burning man,
less at Flipside, there's awhole village called Kidsville.
So if you're a parent withchildren that are coming, you
can stay here, you can stay here, you can stay there and there
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are things for kids to do.
People watch each other's like.
I've not been in Kidsville, butI know that that's where a lot
of the children are, so it'sunlikely that they leave that
space.
I mean, sure they do, but Ihave a feeling a lot of them
stay closer to that and don'tnecessarily go exploring all
over the city and getting lost.
That being said, I do have adistinct memory of seeing like a
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blonde eight year old boyrunning around with his address
just sharpied on the side of hisarm, like you know, three
o'clock, and he was just on theside of his arm and that kid was
just like having a ball doingwhatever he wanted.
Having a ball doing whatever hewanted.
I was like he's gonna.
He's gonna go far in life ifhe's that age and is not afraid
to be outside of the bounds ofkidsville or whatever.
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Um, but yeah, anything you wantis there.
There's also hushville.
That's an entire village,people who don't want it to be
super loud, so there's like adecibel limitation, I think
there's also.
I think there's's like adecibel limitation.
I think there's also like agenerator rule, like it's all
non-gasoline fueled power, soit's quiet.
In that aspect too, I might becombining two different villages
(33:06):
.
There's might be the one that'sa clean energy and one that's
Hushville.
But yeah, whatever you want canbe found there.
I love burns.
I love them so much.
They're a lot of fun and peopledo magic, wonderful, amazing
things at them.
The art that people bring isspectacular.
I've been lucky enough to bringdrones to flip side the last
two years and I brought them toBurning man last year and I will
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do that again this year.
But yeah, there is absolutelykink at these places.
I mean, you have to be a littlemore careful because, like I
said, you can't get essayedthere.
Um, so, and you know, I feel.
I feel like it's less.
It happens less because you'realso in a place where if
somebody, like if it becomesclear that something
inappropriate is happening andpeople see it, the person doing
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the assaulting will not lastlong, like people swarm against
them If you get caught.
But like there's likeeverybody's, everybody, every
type of person is there.
So the bro that gets drunk andjust wants to bang a lady, you
know it's there.
Just because they're burningman doesn't make them a better
person, but the environment issuch that people are always
talking about safety and consentand all of those things and
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there's open conversations aboutI remember I went to some.
I went to some camp and theywere having a whole conversation
about polyamory and like forpeople who didn't know if they
wanted to do it or not orsomething like can't remember,
and it turned into aconversation about finding
unicorns and like being you know.
Yeah, I can't really recall,but there's all like whatever
you want to learn about somebodywho's doing a talk about it.
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There's ted talks everywhere inthat place.
I highly recommend it sweatyass.
Ted talks sweaty, dusty, dirty,sexy ass.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Ted talks aaron, you said you wanted there to be
animal play well, I would justimagine that it would be a place
where there'd be a lot of petplay, because it's there's a lot
of of the dressing up and thedifferent outfits, so it's
something that I would justimagine would be there.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Oh, you're saying that you would like to see.
I haven't seen any full-onponies, but that would be great.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
That would be quite a commitment.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
with the heat, I mean more likely at Burning man,
because when the sun goes downit gets cold At Flipside.
Usually when the sun goes downgets like cold um at flip side.
Usually when the sun goes downit's a little more bearable too.
But this year it was not.
So you just have to wait, youhave to.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
You have to wear your leather corset at night and
well, I mean, and to to the tothe point, like, like furries
and pet play subs they are.
They are, they are builtdifferent because, like anytime
that I have come across a furry,uh, brony, uh, pet play sub,
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like their, their masochistlevel is unique.
Because I'm just like you'recrawling around on your knees
all day in a full pup maskoutside eating out of a bowl the
whole day, the whole day.
Like that sounds painful andhot, not hot in the sexy way,
(36:15):
hot isn't temperature wise, butif it brings you joy, live your
life like, please.
And I say that like I wouldliterally.
I would literally be in theglory hole camp for hours.
I would easily suck dick forhours every day.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
It's for you, tosin, I put it up for you.
I've never been in a burn andnot seen people leash either.
That's pretty common.
And there's this one reallyiconic Burning man picture that
I love.
That is a woman who in who'slike fucking hot and she's in
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like knee-high boots and um,forgive me, I don't know the
words or which culture iscorrect.
Yeah, but she's okay.
So she's got like a hijab on.
I don't, yeah, I don't know ifit's like afghani or iranian or
what like what.
I think she was just kind ofencompassing them all, but she
is appropriately ethnic and shehas her face covered and her
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hair covered and the hijab orwhatever it is comes down just
to like below her nipples.
So you get a lot of reallygreat under boob, but she's not
fully exposed and she's got likeunderwear and boots and you
just see her eyes and the restof her face and hair and
shoulders is covered and she's.
She's like walking down a busystreet.
Her hand is up, she's got aleash in it and at the end of
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the leash is a man who's alsodressed in appropriate, like
ethnic garb, like hat and tunic,and he's and she's just yanking
him and you can see the look inhis face is like that, like
it's a little like concerned,but like the, the like gender
flip there is so great and it'sso hot and I was like how do I?
(37:57):
yeah, I was like how do I bethis woman for the rest of my
life?
Not just just the confidenceand the like this, the, the fuck
you stereotype and like I don'tknow.
It was just great.
It's on the internet somewhere.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
I have it in my phone somewhere if you google hijab
burning man, it is the first hiton google images.
Looking at it now and fuck yeahI have to go almost there how
do you spell hijab?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
h-i-g-h-i-j-a-b the job burning man.
Oh oh yeah, there it is yeahthat's a, that's a burka
technically a burka?
Yeah, thank you, I thoughtburka's covered everything the.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
The burka is, the is full body, but she's doing this
version of it.
Hijab is just.
The face is open, I think.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Leave it to Reddit the top comment.
This is actually a niqabN-I-Q-A-B, since it only covers
the face.
A burqa covers the entire body.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Yeah, and a hijab just covers the hair.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
I love that the reddit comments are basically
the conversation that we justhey, reddit knows also that
outfit is so good.
I've it's like.
I'm like, how do I was I wantto do this, but I like it's been
done so well that I'm like it'sand I don't have a guy to carry
around on a leash.
That's also ethnicallyappropriate.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
It's just so great oh , we can find one in 12 seconds,
that's.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
That is not a hurdle casey, you dressed me up like
that, I guarantee I yeah, I wasgonna be more ethnically
appropriate than that you'll doit for me, aaron.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
You're so great, thank you I was about to say I
was like this picture.
I was like that's just a dudewith a beard and you think so.
Uh, he does not look middleeastern in any way.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
To me that looks like I think he kind of, I guess he
could be italian that looks likethat looks like ben guys kyle,
yeah chad and again I could bewrong.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
I would need to like there's.
There's a lot more markers thatI that I would need, but I'm
like you know, he like she'smore tan than he is and yeah for
all we know, she's actuallynative american exactly all
kinds of things.
Like I, I think yeah, you know,I, I am, I appreciate the
(40:32):
statement period like, like, Idon't care, there are people on
the Twitter space who are goingto cancel people, being like you
can't make political statementsunless you qualify, and I'm
like define qualify.
What are we doing?
Yeah, I was like it's Burningman.
She's naked, with a leash and aman on it.
We're not like man.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
She's naked, with a leash and a man on it.
We're not like and for us allwe know this could be like she
could be adhering to herreligious practices and beliefs
of not showing her face you know, oh, that's.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
That's actually a fun game, where you know, because
there's a lots of like christianloopholes that are ridiculous,
um that like people either donon-ironically loophole yeah,
yeah, poop, poop hole loophole.
Um, you know it's it's.
It's fine to masturbate ifyou're not thinking about
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another person.
Um, you know, I've heard somestranger ones, but we'll save it
for the special guest that youhave coming on, because I have
interesting stories on that one.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
So question for y'all a little left field, but now
that we're all a little turnedon from that photo sexy
adventures.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Oh for me.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Yeah, what reports do y'all have from the front?
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Hmm, what am I doing?
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Oh, outside of Burns I was, was like I'm so sorry to
disappoint you.
I was trying to escape my ownbody.
Um, I have no sexy adventuresto talk about.
Um, I've been seeing my, mydomestic disciplinarian subbie,
though, and she's been, butthere's nothing new there.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
I dropped a hundred dollars on the dildo.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Whoa.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
And so, and that's for you.
Yeah, I've been.
I have been forever on thesearch of a fake penis that
replicates as much of the mouthfeel possible for my particular
type of oral fixation like.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
You want a penis it feels I'm sorry, you want a
dildo that feels like a penis inyour mouth yes and so, and this
one's pretty good, it's prettygood and so I had.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
I had a partner shove it down my throat while I
masturbated recently.
It was lovely.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Yeah, it was great All right.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Well, I'll just use this as a story to share with
y'all.
Like I had one of the mostincredibly sexy experiences two,
maybe three weeks ago.
So Sarita and I have this onestrap on.
That is where the dildo partvibrates, but it also has, like
it has, an egg that goes upinside of her.
(43:21):
That's kind of a G-spotstimulator.
It's got a clit sucker on itand then it's got the vibrating
phallus part of it.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
So many things.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
Yeah, it's fantastic.
Phallus part of it, so manythings.
Yeah, it's fantastic.
So we I've been doing the athome like hair removal treatment
thing and so did that.
And I was like, hey, use somecoconut oil on me.
And that transitioned into herpegging me a little bit with it
and I told her to first, likestart massaging my back and use
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that same like energy to peg meLike so kind of like kind of
sharing a bit of like the vibeof like I want it to feel like a
massage.
And she did that for a whileand it was really hot and we
were good.
So it was like, hey, let's, Ithink we had to go to dinner or
something like that.
We come back.
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I put a butt plug in her.
She puts the entire setup backon and starts slowly working me
and start slowly working me.
Things lined up where the clitsucker was right where it needed
to be, the egg was going andshe was now full because she had
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this butt plug in her.
All of a sudden, I feel that,like I remember I reached behind
, I like grabbed her thighs andshe pushed herself kind of deep
inside of me and then juststarted coming and did not stop.
Like their puddle formed underme, she was squirting and it
kept on going for, I swear, likea minute.
(45:05):
And I started feeling like waterhitting my back and I was like
my back and I was like man.
She must have really squirted.
No, it was over a minute longorgasm that she was crying and
those were tears from the orgasmhitting my back and I will tell
you oh, hell yeah the.
(45:26):
She describes it as her mostintense orgasm ever and it was
just a beautiful and fucking hotmoment.
Um, I'll look up the name ofthe vibrator to to share with
everyone, but yes, please yeahthat's so great oh man, that's I
I would like to have thatexperience that I.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
Most of the porn that I watch is as farm to table,
literally one of the only otherones grass fed yeah, grass free
range organic hormone free yeah,I prefer to.
I prefer to climax to things, toporn that is made for me by
people I know or who have doneit for me, um and so, or of me
(46:12):
pleasing someone else.
But I will.
I will wander into the the, the, the wild, with the number one
thing being she comes whilepegging, like it's my, like, it
is one of my favorite thingsthere.
Strangely enough, there's alimited set of it.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
It's not a lot so I just sent you the link for those
at home.
Strap hyphen on hyphen me dotus absolutely brilliant so this?
it has a vibrator and a clitsucker uh, yes, and so you use a
special harness that allows youto like slide it through.
(46:54):
And I forget the name of theharness Tosin.
You mentioned it once, but it'sbasically Jockstrap.
There's another one like that.
Nonetheless.
Yes, it's a great fucking time.
Now they have them in alldifferent like sizes and
measured some of the currentstuff that I have and was like,
yeah, I'll go with the medium,they're so expensive, but I kind
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of.
Now I'm like, well, I mean alittle bit more fullness, I
don't know yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
One of my, one of my partners has the non vibrating
purple one, which is the mainone that I've been pegged with
in the recent times, and big fun.
You know I've not not crying intears for a minute, but you
know she's.
(47:45):
She's definitely come thrustinginto me, which is elite If you
have not experienced it as ahuman being, like that's the
whole game.
Honestly, that was a veryeffective fix for an insecurity
that I've had for a lifetime,which is like like getting
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pegmore, because I'm, I'm, wasgenerally worried about being
like.
You know, if I'm havingintercourse and I'm coming too
fast or like my, the intercourseis not like making them climax,
um, that they would prefer notto be having it.
And then you know, having bottomfor a while and had someone
(48:27):
like climax while they're insideme, which I've never had a
prostate orgasm.
I've never even gotten closeand you know I still want to do
it, like I was just like, yeah,no, I don't care, I don't care
if it's four and a half minutes,let's go do it, do it again.
And the experience and theexperience of you being the
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recipient of like a climax that,while being penetrated, is like
its own glorious event, like,like, easily.
I will be like, yeah, run up inthere for 45 seconds and if you
, if you come like that, go forit, and I will go on about my
day feeling full, better andwonderful yeah, a plus life
(49:13):
experience.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Yeah also, you've never had a prostate orgasm I'm
not.
I'm not I've only had probablyabout five and I had to check
that I didn't like comeafterwards because I thought
that it was like a right like itmine.
Let me not rub it in.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
Wait, I don't know what you mean.
You had to check that youdidn't come.
Speaker 3 (49:38):
So it's one of those things where it is very intense
and it almost and I was unclearas to whether I was like
physically coming or not, but itfelt like there was something
about it that was distinctlydifferent and it was the just
(50:00):
probably the intensity of theexperience and the fact that it
was emanating from my prostate.
But with proper pressure onyour prostate, you feel it on
the tip of your dick, and sofrom that and like that shaking
type of orgasm, I wasn't clearon whether it was like I came
(50:23):
orgasm or not, as that alsoindicates whether-.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
You mean, you came as in, you ejaculated?
Speaker 3 (50:31):
Yes, yes, whether, yeah, I ejaculated or not did
you ejaculate?
No, not from the prostateorgasm, and that's awesome too,
because you just had thisamazing experience.
You catch your breath and thenyou can still have sex.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
And orgasm like again with ejaculating.
Speaker 3 (50:53):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Whoa.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
Now, these things are rare.
I mean, these are like shootingstars, blue moons.
They do not occur that often,but they're.
Speaker 1 (51:03):
Yeah, I mean, my problem has been like I'm not
flexible enough to do itmanually.
I don't or or have theendurance to do it manually by
myself.
Um, I haven't had the time orlike found the free time to like
experiment that with someoneelse I have gotten.
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I have seen the light at theend of the tunnel right.
There's been a couple ofexperiences where it's just like
tunnel right.
There's been a couple ofexperiences where it's just like
oh, if we kept doing this exactthing for a while, something
interesting is going to happen.
Speaker 3 (51:40):
Um, but that's when you say don't you dare stop well
, one.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
It felt like it felt.
It still felt like it was likewe got a, we got a bit of
railroad to go before we getthere and, like one of them,
like the proper amount of lubewasn't used, so like I didn't, I
didn't have much more roadway,so it was just like I was like,
oh, I probably can only takeabout another 10 minutes of this
, um, and one of them I wasdoing a shoot, so I was
(52:09):
distracted, and the other onewas like you know, they were
like perched on their toes in abed to do it, and that's a lot
of that.
That's a high physical demand,and so, because they would like,
in order for the work, that Ihave to remain in that position,
(52:29):
and if you're like perched onyour toes, like fully twerk,
thrusting to pull that off, likeI don't know how long you can
do that, and if you haven't liketrained to do that, it is fun
watching your partner get alittle winded pegging.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
Oh yeah, it takes it takes work.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
That is.
It is I'm not gonna say themost misogynist part about me,
but it is definitely like a.
It's a.
It feels like a very andrewtate moment in my soul.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
Are you kidding me?
As if squatting on y'all'sdicks till burnout in our thighs
isn't a thing?
Are you kidding me right now?
Speaker 1 (53:08):
that's not I what I have done.
Both I have written on top.
It is exhausting.
That is it.
That's not I what I have done.
Both I have written on top.
It is exhausting.
That is that's not what I'msaying there is, but like the,
the particular switch,especially if that person has
complained about, or you havehistory of people complaining
(53:29):
about like physically not beingable to do that for the whole
time, or why are you tired, orall this other stuff.
Because I had a lot of partnersthat have been like the ratio
of being ridden to me being ontop is like one in a hundred and
and that that particular persondidn't peg me and so generally
(53:50):
my the andrew tate in quotesfeeling uh is not towards the
person that's doing it, it's thehistorical people who have been
like it's not that hard, it'slike why are you, why are you so
complaining?
Speaker 3 (54:03):
this is not andrew tate.
This is very feminist.
It is.
This is a celebrating equality,a quality.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
Well, no, it's hard for everyone it's the, it's the
schadenfreude of taking pleasurein the, in the torment.
I'm being like, yeah, you'retired, yeah, that shit's
exhausting and I'm verycomfortable right now.
Just laying down this feelsgreat and again I that that
(54:31):
particular mind phrase is whatI'm talking about and again I am
grateful to the people puttingin all the work, doing that.
I am happy to be on top.
I've had plenty of expending, alot of energy experiences.
It's not relegated to men andwomen.
I know plenty of lazy men likeall of that, like all of that,
this, but that particularthought that happens when like,
(54:55):
uh, I've, when I've been beingpegged and a partner is
exhausted the little tinygremlin, that's just like
happens.
And again I got laughed at whenthe first time that I rode um my
partner who begs me and I waslike reverse cowgirl doing the
(55:16):
whole thing and I was just likeeverything burns immediately,
yeah, Immediately, and I'm justlike, oh, geez, and it's like,
and how good it feels only getsyou so far so quick I every, we
(55:38):
all have it hard.
It's it's hard out here okayit's hard out here.
Yeah, anyways, all you sexybeasts, until next time let's
burn and get peg, find a gloryhole do thigh stretches and
exercises, and thank you toeverybody who bounces up and
down on penises or thrusts intoholes.
Speaker 2 (56:00):
Yeah, thanks, we appreciate the physical effort
put the work in thanks fortuning in to another episode of
talk dirty to me, and we'llcatch you on the next one bye.
Speaker 1 (56:15):
I was sobbing on our couch because I was just like
admitting this part of myselfthat I had not told anyone about
those first explorations arereally the um, the most intimate
and the ones that really kindof stick.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
That's something that I still I am still.
Speaker 1 (56:29):
I've been in therapy.
Still.
I'm struggling to like turn offin my brain.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
We come out with these guards and it's hard to
then figure out how to put themdown.
Speaker 3 (56:40):
I want to feel more empowered in my body because I
grew up not feeling that way.
Speaker 2 (56:44):
Closen Therapy is wiping away tears.
Speaker 1 (56:47):
I am, that was perfect.
Speaker 3 (56:50):
I look forward to the day when our society has
progressed past the point whereit's just like this kind of
universally accepted witch huntagainst anybody who even tries
to ask for help.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
So happy that a podcast like this exists, that
you guys have a forum where youknow you can talk so openly
about things, and justespecially for me, like every
episode is eye-opening on adifferent perspective.
Speaker 3 (57:14):
This is the podcast I always wished existed, so I'm
excited to be a part of itreally does seem like we're
helping people this podcastreally is sexy glad we're back
for a third season.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
Well, I guess we should do our outro um casey do
the, do the thingy.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
But do you know, do it, do it sexy talk dirty to me
is a podcast by little reegadeFilms.
Speaker 1 (57:33):
It stars Casey Samuels, you heard what the man
said, do it sexy, okay, okay,I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
Sexy God.
Speaker 1 (57:44):
Talk Dirty to.
Speaker 2 (57:45):
Me is a podcast by Little Renegade Films.
It stars Casey Samuels, tosinAwafeso and Aaron.
For more of our offerings, goto littlerenegadefilmscom.
Thank you.
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