November 5, 2025 • 21 mins
Recorded on the floor at Podcast Movement, we open up about what it really means to “graduate” a show. Not quitting. Not failure. A deliberate step toward the next chapter. Paula reflects on Season 10 as a season of growth and redirection, while our guest Junaid shares how 700 interviews stayed fresh by letting the format evolve — from beekeeping stories to origin journeys to the habits that keep creators moving.
We dig into why podcasts often start as private diaries that happen to be public, and how that intimacy can evolve into a powerful networking engine. The conversation moves from momentum to leverage: treating each interview as a soft invite into your world, building trust with guests, and letting those relationships compound into collaborations and opportunities. We also confront podfade at its source: post-production. You’ll hear practical ways to reduce the grind, find interns or a team, and build a simple workflow that protects your energy for the part you love—the conversation.
There’s room for joy and texture here too: a detour into beekeeping sparked by a search for local honey, a shoutout to Queen B, and the sponsor moments that keep indie shows rolling. We talk tools that matter, like link dashboards that show exactly which posts drive action, so you can double down on what works and stop guessing. And we ground the creative hustle with mental health—faith as structure and purpose, prayer as recalibration, and community as the safety net that helps you choose whether to pause, pivot, or evolve without shame.
If you’re standing at a crossroads—end the pod, rebrand it, or push on—this conversation gives you language, tactics, and permission. Share this with a friend who’s debating a pivot, and leave a review to tell us: are you pausing, rebranding, or graduating your show next?
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SPEAKER_02 (00:00):
Hey, hey, how are you doing, Janade?
SPEAKER_01 (00:02):
I'm doing good.
SPEAKER_02 (00:03):
Where are we at, Janae?
Where are we at?
SPEAKER_01 (00:05):
We are at B and H photo representing some really
sexy hot gear at PodcastMovement 2025.
SPEAKER_02 (00:14):
Do you know what B and H stands for?
It stands for Welcome to DoctorWhat Play.
SPEAKER_01 (00:53):
Yeah.
You know what?
It's probably somebody's name'sinitials.
Who knows?
SPEAKER_02 (00:58):
So Janae.
SPEAKER_01 (00:59):
But I I want to hear what you think.
SPEAKER_02 (01:02):
I really don't know, and I should have asked them,
but I'm grateful for them forallowing us to record here.
SPEAKER_01 (01:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (01:07):
You do know that I'm ending my podcast, right?
SPEAKER_01 (01:10):
You're ending your podcast because it's gonna uh,
you know.
SPEAKER_02 (01:14):
We have done enough shit.
SPEAKER_01 (01:17):
We are we're done shitting, guys.
SPEAKER_02 (01:20):
Enough more shit to shit out of talk shit we pee.
But um season 10, I wanted it tobe all about uh growth, yeah, uh
redirection, uh rebranding, umknowing when to stop because I
feel like sometimes when peopledecide to end something, they
feel like it's a failure.
(01:40):
Like maybe I feel, right?
But sometimes you need to stepback to get a clear picture of
where it's going.
SPEAKER_01 (01:47):
I think I think what you're saying is that after
you've done four years of highschool, you don't want to stay
there, right?
You're graduating, so you're notending the show, the the the
show is graduating.
SPEAKER_02 (02:00):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_01 (02:01):
It's gonna have a certificate and it's gonna, you
know, all that good stuff.
SPEAKER_02 (02:04):
So how long have we known each other, Janaide?
SPEAKER_01 (02:07):
I think about three to four years.
SPEAKER_02 (02:09):
So I asked this to everybody who comes on my
podcast for season 10.
When you met me, what was yourimpression and what is your
impression right now after allthose three years?
SPEAKER_01 (02:22):
So when I first met you, I didn't really know who
you were, and it was like, wow,this is a very high-energy human
being.
Uh, and I didn't know that youhad a podcast.
I only discovered that veryrecently, maybe maybe two years
ago, right?
And you've probably been doing aton of conversation, ton of
talks over the years.
But the more I got to know you,the more I knew how deep of a
(02:46):
heart-centered person you are.
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (02:50):
And it's funny you said you didn't know I had a
podcast because I've realizedwhenever I got to because we
meet each other in so many.
Whenever I got to theseconferences, I realized I don't
like talking about my podcast ortelling people I like to know
about them.
Yes, all they do, and connectthem with everybody I meet.
I'm like, how do I meet thisguy?
(03:10):
So it's not surprising that youdidn't know.
Yes.
And maybe also because I feellike talk show with P was like
my baby, right?
So there's some ways, yes, youwant it out there, but you also
like not everybody needs tolisten to it.
I'm one of the few people whoare like, I don't care about
don't give me downloads, like,don't find me.
Like, do you know what shit Italk in there?
Like, do I really want you tosee my personality in real life?
SPEAKER_01 (03:33):
Yeah, you know what I what I'm hearing here, Paula,
is that the podcast was more ofan outlet.
It's more like a journal, it'smore like a diary, right?
You not everybody gets reads apersonal diary, but a personal
diary is for us to get removethe things that are holding us
(03:53):
back, right?
So that's what the podcast wasdoing for you.
Is now that you removed all thethings that were holding you
back, you are on another level,right?
And when I started my my when Istarted my podcast, I didn't
tell anybody about it either.
For one year, I didn't promote,I didn't talk about it, I didn't
do nothing.
You know, all I was doing is thereps.
It's those early years and thoseearly days when you go into the
(04:17):
gym.
Like, I don't want to tellanybody I'm working out.
Because then they're gonna belike, hey, did you go work out
today?
SPEAKER_02 (04:23):
Like, uh, everybody's gonna know when I
walk out because baby, I made itto the gym.
You're gonna know.
You will see these pictures, andyou maybe I showed up for like
five, ten minutes.
Like it's too short.
I went to the gym.
SPEAKER_01 (04:37):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (04:37):
Speaking of your podcast, you're one of the
people I know who has pleasetell the people how many
episodes do you have?
How many have you recorded?
SPEAKER_01 (04:47):
Sure.
So I've recorded about 700guests on the show.
Like, like that's 700 hours oftalking to a new person, unless
I bring you know people back tothe show.
SPEAKER_02 (05:00):
I love it.
And how do you keep going?
Like, you know, for right now, Ikeep telling everybody I'm
ending it, but who knows in oneyear maybe I might come.
Like, I am so happy and proud ofmy podcast because of everything
that it has brought for me.
Because I feel like everybodywants to go viral with their
podcast, but they're missingthat.
Look at the opportunities thatpodcast has given you, the rooms
(05:22):
that podcast says, becausethat's also leverage, right?
It is, yes.
So um how have you been able tokeep the momentum going?
Because 700 is not I'm just ontop of it.
SPEAKER_01 (05:34):
It's not an easy number, right?
So the idea behind a podcast orbehind my podcast is number one,
it's evolving with me, right?
So I started as uh documentingmy beekeeping journey, then it
evolved to interviewing peoplewho are who've made it, then
it's involved uh, you know,start then pivoting again to
just focus on their introjourneys and then focusing on
(05:58):
how they keep moving.
So it's it's been an evolutionfor me as well, but it's another
way for me to soft invitesomebody into my world.
Right?
It's a way for me to invitesomebody uh that I've met for
the first time to come into myworld.
So not only am I providing themwith a platform, but I'm also
getting to know them as a humanbeing, as a person.
(06:20):
And who knows, maybe in thefuture you become a business
partner or you're doing uhcollaborations with them.
So that's been keeping me goingon why I keep doing the podcast.
The other reason why I keepdoing it is is a way to show my
kids and like, hey, look at allof these people, what are they
doing, what's possible for them,and how amazing you know it is
(06:42):
when you get to you know controlthis.
So that's those are some of thereasons for why I do it.
SPEAKER_02 (06:48):
I'm curious, how did you get into bees?
SPEAKER_01 (06:50):
How did I get into bees?
I love that question.
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SPEAKER_01 (07:56):
Well, I love Queen Bee, you know, Beyonce, so I
gotta get it.
It's alright, it's alright.
It's I'm all I'm only happy.
I'm only happy when it rains,you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_02 (08:11):
Alright, alright.
So Queen B took to be.
SPEAKER_01 (08:13):
So the reason I got into uh beekeeping is number
one, a few years ago we took myson to an allergist, and he was
just two years old, and he didall these pinpricks on him to
discover, you know, what butfoods is he allergic to.
And then as an offhand comment,the the doctor goes, you know,
(08:34):
local honey is really good forseasonal allergies.
I was like, ooh, local honey.
I gotta give me some of that.
Now, if it was a normal person,they would just go to the
organic store organic store orfarmers farmers market and get
some local honey.
But no, I had to become abeekeeper.
SPEAKER_02 (08:50):
Of course you didn't, right?
SPEAKER_01 (08:51):
So seven, eight years later, I finally were in a
home that we can build to w wecan uh have beehives.
So I started learning aboutbeekeeping, and then uh I was
watching just I was justconstantly watching videos on
YouTube about beekeeping, andthen the last one that I
watched, the guy's like, hey, ifyou really want to become a
beekeeper, you need to go join alocal beekeepers association.
(09:14):
And that's where my journeystarted to becoming a beekeeper.
SPEAKER_02 (09:17):
So if uh uh they genade um honey out there?
SPEAKER_01 (09:23):
There's uh I call it the sweet raw honey that that
was uh that I was uh selling uha few years ago, but that's that
was again, you know, it it hasgraduated.
SPEAKER_02 (09:35):
Damn, so I'm not gonna get a honey.
SPEAKER_01 (09:38):
I might have some bottles, I might I might be able
to send them over.
SPEAKER_02 (09:42):
You better send me some honey.
So um, Janae, thank you so muchfor your time.
But uh before we we call it off,because you know it's happy
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For a person who's again, ourmind plays tricks on us, right?
(11:59):
Even though sometimes you know,like right now, this is what I
need to do, but it's also kindof like a bit of sweep.
Like even with me on my podcast,I'm like, I kind of don't want
to end it, but I need to forright now.
So for a person who's judgingthemselves or thinking they're
they have failed, instead oflooking at it as I know you, as
you say, you're gonna be.
Uh what advice would you havefor them?
(12:20):
Oh, in that road cross of shouldI stop?
Should I quit?
Should I rebrand?
Because sometimes alsorebranding people think like
they failed, but it is you know,we've seen businesses rebrand,
TV shows, everything.
People rebrand all the time.
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (12:36):
So you could definitely do a rebrand of the
show, and but what you also wantto do is look at how much time
are you uh spending on a podcastin the post-production?
Because there's 10 levels ofpodcasting, right?
One level is just aconversation, that's the fun,
that's the most fun hour, right?
Everything else is what it's theafter edits, it's the it's and
(12:58):
that's what causes pod fade,right?
So see if you can find a teamthat can assist you.
See if you can bring in internsthat not only are you teaching
them podcast editing,post-production, whatnot, but
you're also um empowering them.
So think of that.
How can you bring in people thatare new to this?
And it could even be uh, youknow, going to the local
(13:21):
university and like, hey, do youhave interns?
Do you have people uh orstudents that are going to your
podcast program?
Oh, can I teach them?
Can I bring them on?
So again, that creates a newlevel of purpose for you, what
you're doing with the podcast.
SPEAKER_02 (13:36):
But these kids these days, they don't like doing
anything for free.
Everybody's all about money.
These kids are built different.
Well, back in the day, we usedto be interning and volunteer
because it always built credit.
SPEAKER_01 (13:47):
You're absolutely right, and you're hanging with
the wrong people.
SPEAKER_02 (13:50):
Okay, I hang out in my room by myself.
SPEAKER_01 (13:53):
There are people, there are people that would
happily come work with you, comelearn from you because it it all
comes down, okay.
What are you giving out back tothe community?
You're giving out love, you'regiving out so much attention,
like you're hyping everybody up,right?
You're hyping them.
So that's a really powerfulpower.
(14:15):
Cheerleaders don't get paid tocheer their team on.
SPEAKER_02 (14:18):
Oh, yeah, I found out how much Dallas Cowboys, but
they love, they're sopassionate, but they get paid
penny this.
But they put in so much.
So I feel like when you getpeople who are also passionate,
yeah, because they want to growtheir craft and all that.
So I love that.
Earlier today, when you wereinterviewing me, you asked me um
what is the one question Ialways ask.
(14:39):
So I'm gonna bring it back hereand ask you because I think we
are all about mental healthagain.
So, how do you deal with yourmental health?
What tricks and trips do you useto get yourself in the right
head when your head is givingyou all that craziness going on?
Especially now, there's a lotgoing on out there, yeah.
(15:01):
So our minds wander, evensometimes you're like trying not
to.
So, what do you do?
SPEAKER_01 (15:06):
So, let me tell you what I do and what people have
been doing.
So there was a report out just afew years ago.
Sorry, it's a few months ago.
The number one reason why peopleuse Chat CPT, you know what that
is?
The number one reason is forpersonal development.
They want a companion, they wantsomebody that's helping them uh
(15:27):
stay on task, somebody to givetheir life meaning and
structure.
And guess what?
That guess where you can findthose three things already and
people have been using uh orfinding those three things for
the past decades or centuries.
It's religion.
Right?
So Islam as my religion beingMuslim, it brings me structure,
(15:51):
it brings me companionship, andand it gives me a purpose of why
am I even here on this planet.
So I go back to God, I go backto God, what do I need to do?
Where what am I doing in thisworld, right?
So then the number one reasonthat we're here in this world is
to number one worship.
Number two is to help others.
(16:11):
So when I find that am I inalignment with what God wants me
to do?
And if I am, then you know I'mhappy.
And then is it giving me joy?
So again, I go back to God andask him and I pray and say,
okay, what can I do?
How can I level up otherpeople's lives?
So that's what that's what I dofor.
SPEAKER_02 (16:32):
I like that.
And that's not true, because thefirst time I started getting
really depressed andunderstanding what depression
was, my mom literally was theone who told me was like, Paula,
pray.
God will give you the answer.
And the more I started praying,it felt like you're sure that
like some happiness is beinglifted off your shoulder.
And me and loyalty, I mean,shout out to my God, loyalty
(16:53):
over there.
Yeah, whenever we we go throughso much, and whenever we
underco, we're like we we areconstantly telling each other,
God guard us, that as long as wegot faith and God, we pray like
she's being amazing, she's inthe church helping the youth.
So also surrounding yourselveswith people who align with you
(17:13):
and your purpose is also a bigfactor.
So thank you so much for hangingout with me.
But before we leave, let thepeople know all the incredible
shit you do because you are anauthor, you are a podcaster, you
are a studio maker, videocreator, you are amazing, doing
incredible shit.
And I just want people to knowthat.
(17:34):
So let the people know all theamazing stuff and where they can
find you.
SPEAKER_01 (17:37):
Well, Paula, thank you so much for bringing me on.
It's been a pleasure getting tochat with you, getting to grow
with you, getting to learn aboutyou.
SPEAKER_02 (17:44):
And we have sound.
SPEAKER_01 (17:45):
And we have sound this time.
Oh my god.
Last year, earlier this year, werecorded an episode and there
was no audio because themicrophones had died and I
forgot to charge them.
But you can find me uh at SuperChnate on all the social media
platforms.
Uh, if you want to learn moreabout building home studios,
head on over tohomestudiomastery.com.
And you can check out my podcastwherever you listen,
(18:08):
hacksonhobies.com, where Iinterview amazing guests on the
show.
SPEAKER_02 (18:13):
Okay, one last question.
This is closing up for real.
For real.
SPEAKER_01 (18:16):
I need to bring you on too.
SPEAKER_02 (18:17):
I know it's about them time.
SPEAKER_01 (18:19):
It's about them time.
SPEAKER_02 (18:21):
700 people, who has been that?
I know it's hard to pick likeone conversation.
I I have a hard time when peopletell me, What was your favorite
episode?
I'm like, all of them, that'swhere they came on my show.
Like, excuse me.
Why wouldn't I bring somebodywho I know I'm gonna have?
But is there an episode?
So for people who don't knowyour show, right?
And they would wanna jump in.
Yeah, what would be the firstepisode you would recommend them
(18:43):
to be like this is the one thateither you're gonna get hooked
or you're gonna say fuck theshow?
SPEAKER_01 (18:49):
So my favorite episode after so many episodes
has been one with uh MissHeather Parody.
And then uh very recently I gotto interview my good friend and
legend, podcast legend Pat Flynnon the show.
SPEAKER_02 (19:04):
So I got to check that one out.
And I'm a big fan of Heather,and I got to meet her when
Janade came to Atlanta and didthat, and she's as amazing.
You know, sometimes when you seepeople online and then you meet
them, and they're even betterthan you are.
SPEAKER_01 (19:17):
Oh my gosh, that's so true.
SPEAKER_02 (19:19):
Yes, so thank you so much.
SPEAKER_01 (19:20):
Thank you to being to be in photo.
SPEAKER_02 (19:23):
Yeah, this is all because of them, and thank you
for Janade.
We didn't plan this.
I didn't just pulled him andwere like, let's talk it up.
So thank you for having time forme.
SPEAKER_01 (19:32):
Absolutely, thank you.
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Let's talk and all listen tosome shit.
Happy shit talking.
Do we just stop?
SPEAKER_01 (20:54):
We can just walk away and hit stop on the on the
thing over there.
Edit it out.
Hey, hey, how are you doing, Janade?
SPEAKER_01 (00:02):
I'm doing good.
SPEAKER_02 (00:03):
Where are we at, Janae?
Where are we at?
SPEAKER_01 (00:05):
We are at B and H photo representing some really
sexy hot gear at PodcastMovement 2025.
SPEAKER_02 (00:14):
Do you know what B and H stands for?
It stands for Welcome to DoctorWhat Play.
SPEAKER_01 (00:53):
Yeah.
You know what?
It's probably somebody's name'sinitials.
Who knows?
SPEAKER_02 (00:58):
So Janae.
SPEAKER_01 (00:59):
But I I want to hear what you think.
SPEAKER_02 (01:02):
I really don't know, and I should have asked them,
but I'm grateful for them forallowing us to record here.
SPEAKER_01 (01:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (01:07):
You do know that I'm ending my podcast, right?
SPEAKER_01 (01:10):
You're ending your podcast because it's gonna uh,
you know.
SPEAKER_02 (01:14):
We have done enough shit.
SPEAKER_01 (01:17):
We are we're done shitting, guys.
SPEAKER_02 (01:20):
Enough more shit to shit out of talk shit we pee.
But um season 10, I wanted it tobe all about uh growth, yeah, uh
redirection, uh rebranding, umknowing when to stop because I
feel like sometimes when peopledecide to end something, they
feel like it's a failure.
(01:40):
Like maybe I feel, right?
But sometimes you need to stepback to get a clear picture of
where it's going.
SPEAKER_01 (01:47):
I think I think what you're saying is that after
you've done four years of highschool, you don't want to stay
there, right?
You're graduating, so you're notending the show, the the the
show is graduating.
SPEAKER_02 (02:00):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_01 (02:01):
It's gonna have a certificate and it's gonna, you
know, all that good stuff.
SPEAKER_02 (02:04):
So how long have we known each other, Janaide?
SPEAKER_01 (02:07):
I think about three to four years.
SPEAKER_02 (02:09):
So I asked this to everybody who comes on my
podcast for season 10.
When you met me, what was yourimpression and what is your
impression right now after allthose three years?
SPEAKER_01 (02:22):
So when I first met you, I didn't really know who
you were, and it was like, wow,this is a very high-energy human
being.
Uh, and I didn't know that youhad a podcast.
I only discovered that veryrecently, maybe maybe two years
ago, right?
And you've probably been doing aton of conversation, ton of
talks over the years.
But the more I got to know you,the more I knew how deep of a
(02:46):
heart-centered person you are.
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (02:50):
And it's funny you said you didn't know I had a
podcast because I've realizedwhenever I got to because we
meet each other in so many.
Whenever I got to theseconferences, I realized I don't
like talking about my podcast ortelling people I like to know
about them.
Yes, all they do, and connectthem with everybody I meet.
I'm like, how do I meet thisguy?
(03:10):
So it's not surprising that youdidn't know.
Yes.
And maybe also because I feellike talk show with P was like
my baby, right?
So there's some ways, yes, youwant it out there, but you also
like not everybody needs tolisten to it.
I'm one of the few people whoare like, I don't care about
don't give me downloads, like,don't find me.
Like, do you know what shit Italk in there?
Like, do I really want you tosee my personality in real life?
SPEAKER_01 (03:33):
Yeah, you know what I what I'm hearing here, Paula,
is that the podcast was more ofan outlet.
It's more like a journal, it'smore like a diary, right?
You not everybody gets reads apersonal diary, but a personal
diary is for us to get removethe things that are holding us
(03:53):
back, right?
So that's what the podcast wasdoing for you.
Is now that you removed all thethings that were holding you
back, you are on another level,right?
And when I started my my when Istarted my podcast, I didn't
tell anybody about it either.
For one year, I didn't promote,I didn't talk about it, I didn't
do nothing.
You know, all I was doing is thereps.
It's those early years and thoseearly days when you go into the
(04:17):
gym.
Like, I don't want to tellanybody I'm working out.
Because then they're gonna belike, hey, did you go work out
today?
SPEAKER_02 (04:23):
Like, uh, everybody's gonna know when I
walk out because baby, I made itto the gym.
You're gonna know.
You will see these pictures, andyou maybe I showed up for like
five, ten minutes.
Like it's too short.
I went to the gym.
SPEAKER_01 (04:37):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (04:37):
Speaking of your podcast, you're one of the
people I know who has pleasetell the people how many
episodes do you have?
How many have you recorded?
SPEAKER_01 (04:47):
Sure.
So I've recorded about 700guests on the show.
Like, like that's 700 hours oftalking to a new person, unless
I bring you know people back tothe show.
SPEAKER_02 (05:00):
I love it.
And how do you keep going?
Like, you know, for right now, Ikeep telling everybody I'm
ending it, but who knows in oneyear maybe I might come.
Like, I am so happy and proud ofmy podcast because of everything
that it has brought for me.
Because I feel like everybodywants to go viral with their
podcast, but they're missingthat.
Look at the opportunities thatpodcast has given you, the rooms
(05:22):
that podcast says, becausethat's also leverage, right?
It is, yes.
So um how have you been able tokeep the momentum going?
Because 700 is not I'm just ontop of it.
SPEAKER_01 (05:34):
It's not an easy number, right?
So the idea behind a podcast orbehind my podcast is number one,
it's evolving with me, right?
So I started as uh documentingmy beekeeping journey, then it
evolved to interviewing peoplewho are who've made it, then
it's involved uh, you know,start then pivoting again to
just focus on their introjourneys and then focusing on
(05:58):
how they keep moving.
So it's it's been an evolutionfor me as well, but it's another
way for me to soft invitesomebody into my world.
Right?
It's a way for me to invitesomebody uh that I've met for
the first time to come into myworld.
So not only am I providing themwith a platform, but I'm also
getting to know them as a humanbeing, as a person.
(06:20):
And who knows, maybe in thefuture you become a business
partner or you're doing uhcollaborations with them.
So that's been keeping me goingon why I keep doing the podcast.
The other reason why I keepdoing it is is a way to show my
kids and like, hey, look at allof these people, what are they
doing, what's possible for them,and how amazing you know it is
(06:42):
when you get to you know controlthis.
So that's those are some of thereasons for why I do it.
SPEAKER_02 (06:48):
I'm curious, how did you get into bees?
SPEAKER_01 (06:50):
How did I get into bees?
I love that question.
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SPEAKER_01 (07:56):
Well, I love Queen Bee, you know, Beyonce, so I
gotta get it.
It's alright, it's alright.
It's I'm all I'm only happy.
I'm only happy when it rains,you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_02 (08:11):
Alright, alright.
So Queen B took to be.
SPEAKER_01 (08:13):
So the reason I got into uh beekeeping is number
one, a few years ago we took myson to an allergist, and he was
just two years old, and he didall these pinpricks on him to
discover, you know, what butfoods is he allergic to.
And then as an offhand comment,the the doctor goes, you know,
(08:34):
local honey is really good forseasonal allergies.
I was like, ooh, local honey.
I gotta give me some of that.
Now, if it was a normal person,they would just go to the
organic store organic store orfarmers farmers market and get
some local honey.
But no, I had to become abeekeeper.
SPEAKER_02 (08:50):
Of course you didn't, right?
SPEAKER_01 (08:51):
So seven, eight years later, I finally were in a
home that we can build to w wecan uh have beehives.
So I started learning aboutbeekeeping, and then uh I was
watching just I was justconstantly watching videos on
YouTube about beekeeping, andthen the last one that I
watched, the guy's like, hey, ifyou really want to become a
beekeeper, you need to go join alocal beekeepers association.
(09:14):
And that's where my journeystarted to becoming a beekeeper.
SPEAKER_02 (09:17):
So if uh uh they genade um honey out there?
SPEAKER_01 (09:23):
There's uh I call it the sweet raw honey that that
was uh that I was uh selling uha few years ago, but that's that
was again, you know, it it hasgraduated.
SPEAKER_02 (09:35):
Damn, so I'm not gonna get a honey.
SPEAKER_01 (09:38):
I might have some bottles, I might I might be able
to send them over.
SPEAKER_02 (09:42):
You better send me some honey.
So um, Janae, thank you so muchfor your time.
But uh before we we call it off,because you know it's happy
hours soon somewhere, you know.
I gotta get a bad visor andstuff.
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For a person who's again, ourmind plays tricks on us, right?
(11:59):
Even though sometimes you know,like right now, this is what I
need to do, but it's also kindof like a bit of sweep.
Like even with me on my podcast,I'm like, I kind of don't want
to end it, but I need to forright now.
So for a person who's judgingthemselves or thinking they're
they have failed, instead oflooking at it as I know you, as
you say, you're gonna be.
Uh what advice would you havefor them?
(12:20):
Oh, in that road cross of shouldI stop?
Should I quit?
Should I rebrand?
Because sometimes alsorebranding people think like
they failed, but it is you know,we've seen businesses rebrand,
TV shows, everything.
People rebrand all the time.
Yes.
SPEAKER_01 (12:36):
So you could definitely do a rebrand of the
show, and but what you also wantto do is look at how much time
are you uh spending on a podcastin the post-production?
Because there's 10 levels ofpodcasting, right?
One level is just aconversation, that's the fun,
that's the most fun hour, right?
Everything else is what it's theafter edits, it's the it's and
(12:58):
that's what causes pod fade,right?
So see if you can find a teamthat can assist you.
See if you can bring in internsthat not only are you teaching
them podcast editing,post-production, whatnot, but
you're also um empowering them.
So think of that.
How can you bring in people thatare new to this?
And it could even be uh, youknow, going to the local
(13:21):
university and like, hey, do youhave interns?
Do you have people uh orstudents that are going to your
podcast program?
Oh, can I teach them?
Can I bring them on?
So again, that creates a newlevel of purpose for you, what
you're doing with the podcast.
SPEAKER_02 (13:36):
But these kids these days, they don't like doing
anything for free.
Everybody's all about money.
These kids are built different.
Well, back in the day, we usedto be interning and volunteer
because it always built credit.
SPEAKER_01 (13:47):
You're absolutely right, and you're hanging with
the wrong people.
SPEAKER_02 (13:50):
Okay, I hang out in my room by myself.
SPEAKER_01 (13:53):
There are people, there are people that would
happily come work with you, comelearn from you because it it all
comes down, okay.
What are you giving out back tothe community?
You're giving out love, you'regiving out so much attention,
like you're hyping everybody up,right?
You're hyping them.
So that's a really powerfulpower.
(14:15):
Cheerleaders don't get paid tocheer their team on.
SPEAKER_02 (14:18):
Oh, yeah, I found out how much Dallas Cowboys, but
they love, they're sopassionate, but they get paid
penny this.
But they put in so much.
So I feel like when you getpeople who are also passionate,
yeah, because they want to growtheir craft and all that.
So I love that.
Earlier today, when you wereinterviewing me, you asked me um
what is the one question Ialways ask.
(14:39):
So I'm gonna bring it back hereand ask you because I think we
are all about mental healthagain.
So, how do you deal with yourmental health?
What tricks and trips do you useto get yourself in the right
head when your head is givingyou all that craziness going on?
Especially now, there's a lotgoing on out there, yeah.
(15:01):
So our minds wander, evensometimes you're like trying not
to.
So, what do you do?
SPEAKER_01 (15:06):
So, let me tell you what I do and what people have
been doing.
So there was a report out just afew years ago.
Sorry, it's a few months ago.
The number one reason why peopleuse Chat CPT, you know what that
is?
The number one reason is forpersonal development.
They want a companion, they wantsomebody that's helping them uh
(15:27):
stay on task, somebody to givetheir life meaning and
structure.
And guess what?
That guess where you can findthose three things already and
people have been using uh orfinding those three things for
the past decades or centuries.
It's religion.
Right?
So Islam as my religion beingMuslim, it brings me structure,
(15:51):
it brings me companionship, andand it gives me a purpose of why
am I even here on this planet.
So I go back to God, I go backto God, what do I need to do?
Where what am I doing in thisworld, right?
So then the number one reasonthat we're here in this world is
to number one worship.
Number two is to help others.
(16:11):
So when I find that am I inalignment with what God wants me
to do?
And if I am, then you know I'mhappy.
And then is it giving me joy?
So again, I go back to God andask him and I pray and say,
okay, what can I do?
How can I level up otherpeople's lives?
So that's what that's what I dofor.
SPEAKER_02 (16:32):
I like that.
And that's not true, because thefirst time I started getting
really depressed andunderstanding what depression
was, my mom literally was theone who told me was like, Paula,
pray.
God will give you the answer.
And the more I started praying,it felt like you're sure that
like some happiness is beinglifted off your shoulder.
And me and loyalty, I mean,shout out to my God, loyalty
(16:53):
over there.
Yeah, whenever we we go throughso much, and whenever we
underco, we're like we we areconstantly telling each other,
God guard us, that as long as wegot faith and God, we pray like
she's being amazing, she's inthe church helping the youth.
So also surrounding yourselveswith people who align with you
(17:13):
and your purpose is also a bigfactor.
So thank you so much for hangingout with me.
But before we leave, let thepeople know all the incredible
shit you do because you are anauthor, you are a podcaster, you
are a studio maker, videocreator, you are amazing, doing
incredible shit.
And I just want people to knowthat.
(17:34):
So let the people know all theamazing stuff and where they can
find you.
SPEAKER_01 (17:37):
Well, Paula, thank you so much for bringing me on.
It's been a pleasure getting tochat with you, getting to grow
with you, getting to learn aboutyou.
SPEAKER_02 (17:44):
And we have sound.
SPEAKER_01 (17:45):
And we have sound this time.
Oh my god.
Last year, earlier this year, werecorded an episode and there
was no audio because themicrophones had died and I
forgot to charge them.
But you can find me uh at SuperChnate on all the social media
platforms.
Uh, if you want to learn moreabout building home studios,
head on over tohomestudiomastery.com.
And you can check out my podcastwherever you listen,
(18:08):
hacksonhobies.com, where Iinterview amazing guests on the
show.
SPEAKER_02 (18:13):
Okay, one last question.
This is closing up for real.
For real.
SPEAKER_01 (18:16):
I need to bring you on too.
SPEAKER_02 (18:17):
I know it's about them time.
SPEAKER_01 (18:19):
It's about them time.
SPEAKER_02 (18:21):
700 people, who has been that?
I know it's hard to pick likeone conversation.
I I have a hard time when peopletell me, What was your favorite
episode?
I'm like, all of them, that'swhere they came on my show.
Like, excuse me.
Why wouldn't I bring somebodywho I know I'm gonna have?
But is there an episode?
So for people who don't knowyour show, right?
And they would wanna jump in.
Yeah, what would be the firstepisode you would recommend them
(18:43):
to be like this is the one thateither you're gonna get hooked
or you're gonna say fuck theshow?
SPEAKER_01 (18:49):
So my favorite episode after so many episodes
has been one with uh MissHeather Parody.
And then uh very recently I gotto interview my good friend and
legend, podcast legend Pat Flynnon the show.
SPEAKER_02 (19:04):
So I got to check that one out.
And I'm a big fan of Heather,and I got to meet her when
Janade came to Atlanta and didthat, and she's as amazing.
You know, sometimes when you seepeople online and then you meet
them, and they're even betterthan you are.
SPEAKER_01 (19:17):
Oh my gosh, that's so true.
SPEAKER_02 (19:19):
Yes, so thank you so much.
SPEAKER_01 (19:20):
Thank you to being to be in photo.
SPEAKER_02 (19:23):
Yeah, this is all because of them, and thank you
for Janade.
We didn't plan this.
I didn't just pulled him andwere like, let's talk it up.
So thank you for having time forme.
SPEAKER_01 (19:32):
Absolutely, thank you.
SPEAKER_02 (19:36):
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Do we just stop?
SPEAKER_01 (20:54):
We can just walk away and hit stop on the on the
thing over there.
Edit it out.
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