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Kristen (00:01):
Hey, everyone.
So welcome back.
I have Alexis with me today andwe are very excited because
today we are talking about hair.
It's just hair.
So it's true.
It's just hair.
It is.
So I'll start off.
So this came about back whenCOVID was a thing and we were
all stuck in our houses.
My husband decided to shave partof my head.
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He's it'd be really edgy, lookreally cool.
And I was fine with that becauseI was done with my hair.
Like I have really thick wavyhair.
I think yours is like that too,Alexis.
Yeah, it's gotten really wavy.
So it like, it would get to apoint and I'd be growing it out.
I'm like, yeah, I have my curls.
I'm scrunching.
Everything's great.
And it would get past a point.
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I'd be like, this is terrible.
I hate my hair.
I want it all gone.
So he was like, let's just shavehalf your head.
I was like, okay, I'm not goinganywhere.
I'm not seeing anyone.
Let's do it.
So we shaved like the one sideof my head.
So it was like parted on theside.
So I had a shaved part and thena parted.
Like on the other side was thehair and it was pretty good.
So he did that for a while.
He's like, why don't we justshave it all off?
I'm like, fine.
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Let's just shave it all off.
And he took out his little, likebuzzcutter things and then all
my hair was gone and it was justAnd it was really scary.
This was the middle of summerand I'd gone to the pool and my
friend Julie was there and she'sOh my gosh, what happened to
your hair?
And I was like, yeah, I felt,and this is not meant to be
disrespectful, but I felt like Iwas somewhere between cancer
(01:27):
patient and Auschwitz survivor.
Like it was, it wasn't like, Iwasn't bald, but the hair was so
short.
It was just like, Oh my gosh,where did it go?
Alexis (01:37):
And it's not probably
not like an edgy style at this
point.
It's probably just like astraight buzz cut.
Kristen (01:43):
Yes.
It was like, when people havehad chemo and their hair all
falls out and then it startsgoing back slowly and they like
go through their stages wherethere's like just a little bit
of hair.
It was that short.
And it was, I had never had hairshorter than my chin.
When I was in seventh grade, Igot lice.
And so I had to get on myhaircut really short.
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And that was quite terriblebecause it was way shorter than
I had ever thought.
So yeah but what I learned fromit though, is like, it started
growing back and then I'd gothrough different phases and
it's Oh, this is cute.
Now I have this cute littlepixie.
And then I was like, okay, noweverything's growing out more.
Now I'm in my headband phase andI was using headbands to push it
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back.
And now I'm in my hair clipphase.
And so I got to go through thesedifferent phases and really get
to experience it.
Different stages of my hair andwhat I could do with it.
What I liked about it.
I was also coloring it Butthat's a whole other story.
We'll get to that in a minute.
So Alexis tell me a hair storyyou have so
Alexis (02:46):
I Actually, I always
have the mindset when I go get
my hair cut, like I don't carewhat they do within reason.
And even if they mess it up, Ialways say, ah, it's just hair
will grow back because thereality is my hair grows
incredibly fast.
And so I don't really have aproblem with that.
And I've always loved my hair.
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It's the one thing that I'veactually always loved until
COVID happened.
Cause the first time I had COVIDit was the first or second time.
I don't know, but I had COVIDfor sure, like the summer of
2021.
And I was, So sick.
I had a fever of 102 for 10days.
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And at this time they, like thedoctors wouldn't see me.
It was just take ibuprofen orNyQuil.
It was so bad.
I had to go get like a pulse oxmeter.
My.
Brother in law's a paramedic andthey're like, you need to go to
the hospital, but I was so sickI couldn't even fathom getting
out of bed to get dressed toeven go and Even if I did I
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needed help getting in But therewould they wouldn't have let
anybody else in because theyweren't letting anybody into the
hospital so I was so sick and mywhole my kids were like This
sounds terrible, but they werelike feral at this point because
Kristen (04:08):
yeah, nobody's there
keeping an eye on them.
Alexis (04:10):
And they were like, and
my husband was sick too.
He was not as sick as I was.
For some reason I get reallysick.
But when that happened, becauseI had a fever so bad about three
months later, like I went andgot my haircut.
I was finally feeling better.
So I went and got my haircut andI actually cut like Probably
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four inches off, which isn't alot, but it was, I was, I cut
quite a bit off.
And within a week of me gettingmy hair cut, and I have very
thick hair, they usually have tothin my hair.
Yep, same.
It started falling out.
Oh.
And I was like, Oh, I, and Idon't use my, I actually don't
usually shed my hair.
Doesn't usually shed that.
I know people are like, Oh, I'msure you go through a shedding
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phase.
I really don't.
It just doesn't happen.
And so after I have kids, likeafter I've had my babies, I have
a couple of times, but itstarted falling out and it was.
At first it was like a littlebit, and then it was handfuls in
the shower.
I got rid of three trash canfulsof my hair.
(05:18):
What?
And I had bald spots.
Yes.
I was like, my family's andfinally, the doctor's Oh, it's
because you had COVID and youhad a fever for 10 days.
And I'm like, Oh that makessense.
It doesn't though.
And
Kristen (05:32):
what it do kill the
hair cells or something like
Alexis (05:35):
So your body, typically
if, even if you go through
surgery Sometimes if you gothrough surgery and stuff like
that, you're, it's like a traumaresponse.
'cause your body's so likefocused on trying to heal that
it just lets your hair Yes.
Shuts down outta processes.
Kristen (05:47):
Okay.
Alexis (05:47):
Yes.
And so that's what they saidhappened.
So then I started growing in,which was fine, but my hair was
stick straight.
Oh.
So then.
Cause I permed it before I wentto college.
So you probably saw, it'snormally stick straight.
Yeah.
I permed it before I went tocollege.
That's an old story before that,but I I, it's very stick
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straight.
So it started growing it and.
It was like perfect ringletswhen it was growing in.
But so the hair, like the 25percent or maybe 30 percent that
didn't fall out.
I literally couldn't, I had towrap like a ponytail around my
hair like six or seven timeswhen normally I can only do two
times around it.
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So it was, I had last a ton ofhair.
And so I had stick straight hairand then I had curly hair.
And it was just, it was like, ittook me three years.
It's finally back to where it'sall like normal and I'm not
trying to grow hair back in andit's weighted down.
So it's not curly, but it's wavynow.
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So I don't know.
And I also think probablyhormones, like when you start
going through menopause orperiod menopause, it starts
getting curly and I think that'swhere I'm at.
Yeah, so I didn't love my hairfor three years and it was
really hard.
I could go to the salon and I'mlike, I don't even know what to
do, but can you try to blend allthis stuff that's growing in?
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And people were shocked and I'mlike this is what happens when
you have a fever for 10 days andthe doctor won't see you.
Kristen (07:17):
Wow, that's crazy.
Yeah, I do shed a lot.
I joke that if I'm ever anywherewhere a crime happens, they're
going to come after me forsomething because my DNA is
going to be everywhere because Ijust, my hair falls out
everywhere and it's it's prettybad.
I don't think there's anythingwrong with me.
I just think I have a lot of
Alexis (07:38):
hair.
I think it's actually abnormalnot to shed.
Okay.
But I just.
I think everybody goes throughthat.
I just don't, for some reason,like you might get, like 10
hairs here or there, but it'snot I know that people go
through, have a lot more, butyeah, I'm just lucky.
And I haven't but I also don'tcolor my hair.
I don't do it's pretty healthy.
So maybe that's why, I don'tknow.
(07:59):
Have you ever colored your hair?
Yeah.
In college.
Okay.
So yeah, it is.
And now like we're getting tothat point where I'm starting to
get graze and I just don't knowwhat to do.
And I have this, I feel like Ihave this societal pressure.
Do I color my hair or do I not?
And I just don't want theupkeep.
(08:20):
That sounds lame, but I reallydon't.
And so I struggle with this.
Like how do women make thatdecision whether they're going
to color their hair or not?
And why?
As a society, do we deem men canhave gray hair.
My husband has gray hair and helooks fine.
Kristen (08:34):
Yeah, we like applaud
it.
We're like, oh, he's such asilver fox.
Oh, look at all his gray hair.
Look at his beard with the grayhair.
Yeah, it's oh my gosh, look atthat old hag over there.
What is she doing with her hair?
That's how we treat women,right?
Ugh, you should really dosomething with your hair.
Alexis (08:50):
Yeah.
Why do we do that?
Why do we feel like, the Bibletalks about silver hair is it's
wisdom.
It's like gray hair is wisdom.
But what, so I don't know.
I'm struggling with that.
I'm almost 40.
So do I color?
Do I not?
I keep picking them out, butThere's going to get a point
where you can only do that.
Kristen (09:09):
Yeah, it's so hard.
So I have lots to say on thecolor.
I'll start with this.
I have several friends,acquaintances, people I know
that have gone females, womenthat have gone like the full
gray, silver hair, and it looksso good on them.
Like it is so pretty.
Like it's actually really likesilver and nice.
(09:30):
It looks great.
And then I have my friend Amyhad recently just done it.
I think it was like a year ortwo ago.
And she's like, all right, I'mgoing to do it.
And yeah, you go through someawkward phases because while
you're having your natural colorand any of the dyes that you did
grow out, there's some awkwardphases, but then like the end
product is really nice.
I.
(09:50):
I'm not doing that and I don'tknow if it's because I'm vain
and I like and I don't think mygray hairs are pretty like mine
isn't great.
Mine's like white and they'relike scraggly and they're all in
the most awkward places.
It's not like a pretty blend.
And so I, I don't know.
I'm not comfortable with the wayI look with it, but like you
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said, I am also tired of theupkeep of it.
Like it grows out and I'm like,ugh, I really should do
something with my hair, butthere's so much work that goes
into it.
I don't know.
For a long time, I was doing alot of different colors too.
I think it was 2017 or 2018, Istarted doing purple hair.
And I did purple for a longtime.
I was like the girl with thepurple hair and it was like my
thing.
And then I started doing someother colors.
(10:33):
And this was a fun story too.
I had switched from purple topink and I had a really hot pink
color and I got promoted atwork.
And I remember a friend of minewas like, I was so impressed
that you got promoted becauseyou had pink hair and that
people could get to the levelthat you were at with hot pink
hair.
Really says something to me.
I'm like, that's really cool.
Because it's a place where itshouldn't matter.
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It's just.
It should be a way to expressyour personality.
And if you want purple hair orpink hair or yellow hair or
green hair or whatever what doesit matter?
Your work should speak foritself.
If you're still being,respectful and competent and who
cares.
But after I shaved my head thefirst time that I started to
experience experimenting withdifferent colors.
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I tried blue.
I hated it.
I tried green.
I hated it.
I did red and it was like aRonald McDonald red when I first
did it.
Oh no.
Yeah.
So at the time, and I still lovethis product.
So this isn't anything againstthem.
Arctic Fox.
They're a vegan permanent colordye.
And it's great.
Smells great.
Goes on great.
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Works really great.
But the red shade that I usedwas so red.
So I blended some purple in it.
It was more of a burgundy.
That one was good.
I liked that, but really it wasthe pinks and purples that I
liked the most.
And then I ended up going bleachblonde the summer of I have no
concept of time, but I wentblonde to one time and like
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bleach blonde, which I thoughtlooked really good.
I was like, Oh my gosh, I lovethis.
I love being a blonde.
Blondes do have more fun.
This is so wonderful.
I look back on pictures now.
I'm like, Ooh.
Not my best choice.
It wasn't great.
But at the time, I loved it.
I was tan because I was tanning,it was summer I just felt like I
was the hottest thing ever.
Look at me and my tan skin andmy blonde hair.
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But again, it just became toomuch and my hair was getting
longer and my husband was doingit because I'm cheap, so I
wasn't paying for anybody to domy hair.
I was having it done at home andhe did a great job.
He could blend colors.
Oh my gosh, he was so good.
But he kept saying, he's thelonger your hair gets, the
harder it is to bleach it.
Which also, I was using ArcticFox Vegan Bleach, so it wasn't
as hard on my hair.
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But he's the longer it gets,it's going to take too long.
This is too much, blah, blah,blah.
And then I ended up going backto like a brown color.
So I've done like browns.
I've done cherry browns.
I've.
It's just been regular colorsnow, and my husband, he's I miss
your purple hair.
I really think you should goback to purple hair.
But I was just like, thebleaching and the upkeep, it's
just, it's so much work.
Alexis (13:01):
Is it?
And that's what I always wonderbecause I have my mom, I, she's
always colored her hair.
I've, from the time I wasyounger, she's always colored
it, and she's always colored itblonde.
Although she's, as she's gottenolder, it's not, she doesn't
have Blonde it's more, she's gotsome low lights in there and I
always just think like she goesin every six to eight weeks and
I'm thinking, first of all, it'sgotten stinking expensive.
(13:24):
So expensive.
I
Kristen (13:25):
know.
Alexis (13:25):
It is insane.
Like I don't even know.
And secondly, I just don't havetime.
And honestly, I really don'twant to spend my time sitting in
a salon chair for them to dothat.
That probably sounds reallylame, but I think that's my hold
back.
Also.
I just, I want to agegracefully.
I don't do fillers.
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I don't do, I don't do all thatstuff and I just want it to be
like acceptable.
And I want my girls to think,it's really okay to age the way
God.
Wanted you to age, but then Ialso don't want people to look
at me and be like, you're 40like you look like you're 60
Like
Kristen (14:05):
you're 60, I don't
worry that's crazy
Alexis (14:09):
Yeah, I don't think I
would have that problem.
Anyways, because I really don'thave that many grays, but it's
just funny because society hasmade it this thing.
So I don't know.
Kristen (14:21):
Yeah.
Alexis (14:21):
I don't know.
Kristen (14:22):
So the salon thing, the
price is a lot.
And my thing isn't the sittingin the chair.
Mine's the awkward do I makeconversation?
Do I talk to them?
Do I talk back?
Cause you hear the people whoare like, Oh yeah, beauty salon.
That's where all the gossip is.
Like in your only stuff you tellyour hairstylist and maybe I
just haven't found somebody thatlike, Connect to that but like I
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always just feel awkward talkinglike they're blow drying You're
like you can't hear me but thepart that I would do enjoy
though is having them wash myhair like Leaning back in that
sink and they're like massagingyour head like I could do that I
would go to a place and justhave somebody wash my hair just
like the relaxation of it.
I don't know if they have
Alexis (15:01):
them there, but I feel
like This might just be a Utah
thing.
They have these dry bars whereyou can go and get your hair
washed.
Yes, I do think they have them.
Kristen (15:12):
And I feel like I've
seen something on Facebook too.
It's like a water head massageor something that you can go and
get at like spas or something.
I would totally do that too.
That seems like that would be sorelaxing.
I would love that.
Alexis (15:25):
Yeah.
Kristen (15:26):
But also, the other
part about the aging gracefully
and the society, and I knowwe're talking about hair, but
since you said fillers, can wetalk about this for a minute
too?
Of course.
Okay.
You're like, yeah, Kristen, it'syour podcast, whatever.
We'll talk.
But no, I do feel like there'sthat struggle of what is
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socially acceptable and what Arewe doing because we want to do
it or what are we doing becauseother people are doing it?
Okay.
So what are your thoughts?
So you haven't done fillers, butwhat are your thoughts on it or
any like cosmetic procedureslike that?
Alexis (16:04):
So I I have a lot that I
could say on this.
So if you just interrupt me atany point,
Kristen (16:11):
okay.
Alexis (16:11):
I personally have
terrible skin.
I don't know what it is.
When I got pregnant with mytwins, I have just had terrible
skin since then.
It's, I feel like it's hormonal,but I also recently found out I
have EDS, which is like a wholething.
I don't even want to get intothat, but it also contributes to
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like acne.
So I just honestly thought thatNobody else has bad skin until I
had was talking to a friend andthey're like, you do know, like
everybody on social media uses afilter when they're talking to
you, they're using a filter andthat's not their normal face.
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And I don't, because first ofall, I don't do that.
And so I'm like, no, I wouldjust use a filter, but it makes
so much sense.
So I just have always for thepast, three or four years, I've
felt really bad To be honest, Idon't have the money to go spend
hundreds of dollars on all thisskincare and dermatologists and
everything like that.
So I just deal with it.
And my husband's happy with me.
(17:16):
I just, I found just like theconfidence just to deal with it.
Okay.
And so I looking at everybody'sstuff, I just assumed everybody
goes and gets filler and thingslike this from social media.
And I think that's the case.
(17:37):
You have to remember I live inIdaho.
Utah is just right below likewe're three hours from Salt
Lake.
Okay.
Kristen (17:43):
Yeah, and I use all the
secret lives of Mormon wives I
know what you talk girls That's
Alexis (17:49):
like this is just like a
common actual thing Like there
is an whole book and theyactually probably do more
plastic surgery.
I feel like than some otherplaces so there is a ton of
plastic surgery and fillers andstuff here And to me, I just
don't, I don't love it, but itcomes from a I tend to be
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crunchy.
It comes from, I just don'tthink it's good for your body.
I know some people use Botox,like I have family members that
get migraines and they use itfor that.
And I get that, but there is, itis, I think it's toxic.
I also don't love like implants.
You are going to find, in fact,my sister was consulting with
plastic surgery in the past yearand you are going to find that
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they are going to stop doingimplants, I would say in the
next 10 or 15 years because somany women are getting them
taken back out because they'reliterally creating autoimmune
issues.
It's your body isn't meant tohave foreign objects in it like
that and they break down and itmakes them incredibly sick.
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So I look at it from that, butthen I look at other things
where I think it could be good.
I really think women should begiven the option and their
insurance should pay for if theyneed a tummy tuck, because it's
not just a tummy tuck, likeafter they have kids, it's
literally fixing your stomachmuscles.
And I personally would do that.
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I've had five kids and twinswere my last set, like my last
pregnancy.
And I think it would solve a lotof the issues that we have of,
as we age, you can't jump on atrampoline because you're going
to pee your pants or sneezingand coughing and pee your pants.
That's not normal.
Other countries don't have thatbecause they work on pelvic
floor or they, have surgeries.
(19:35):
And I do think that those couldbe beneficial, but I come at it
from more of I just don't thinkit's good for your body kind of
a thing, not necessarily likeyour vein or anything like that,
because to each their own, ifthat's what makes them feel
good, then that's what makesthem feel good for me.
It's just not something I wouldknow.
Maybe if I had more money, Iwould look at it differently,
but let's be real.
I do not have the money for anyof that either.
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So that's how I feel about it.
Kristen (20:01):
No.
And I think that's, I thinkthat's a normal take on it.
I think mine is to I think itjust scares me too much.
Like just the thought of needlesand, if you're getting like
basically plastic in your face,like there's just, to me, I'm
like, Ooh, I just, I don't, itjust scares me too much.
So I, I get that.
(20:21):
Yeah.
So I have a relatively goodskin, I think.
I haven't had acne.
I haven't had any of thoseissues.
And I've been lately using snailmucin, which apparently, Koreans
use and they have very niceskin.
And my husband makes fun of me.
He's You don't know what thosesnail secretions come from.
You're putting snail sperm onyour face.
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Dude, I don't care if it keepsthese fine wrinkles at bay and
makes my skin looking good Idon't care what part of the
snail it came from it isworking.
At least I think it's working soi've been using it for almost a
year now not exclusively I haveA pretty hefty skin regimen and
I'm not using sunscreen as muchas I should.
Also for anybody listening,here's a PSA.
(21:06):
Don't just use sunscreen on yourface, put it on your neck, your
chest and your hands, because Iam dealing with my old lady
hands and I don't have sunspotsyet, but I look at my hands.
I'm like, Oh, my old lady hands.
I'm like, it's something I'mactually very self conscious
about.
Yeah.
So sunscreen, sunscreeneverywhere.
Yeah.
Alexis (21:25):
That's true.
What's funny too is I use beeftallow on my face as well, but I
don't actually worry aboutwrinkles because I don't have a
terrible amount of them, butwith EDS, it gives you loose
skin.
So my hands have all like creepyloose skin.
I will never be able to get ridof that.
(21:46):
It's just what it is.
And it makes sense as to why Ihave had.
So many stretch marks, just evenfrom getting too tall, too fast.
Sometimes you can do everythingin the world and you're still
just going to be stuck with yourgenetics.
Kristen (22:00):
And the hand thing,
I've even, I'm like, this is why
people in the olden days woregloves all the time.
Let's bring that trend.
Let's start wearing decorativegloves all the time so that
nobody has to see my old ladyhands.
But that's something I strugglewith.
But to your point, though, thesociety thing and the social
media thing, that's what killsme.
(22:21):
Because even in my head, like Isay, this isn't real.
This isn't what this personlooks like.
And like the knowledge part ofmy brain knows that.
But the part of my brain thathas, like, all the feelings and
emotions is she's so muchprettier than you are.
You don't look like that.
People don't like you.
I can't get out of my head thatbecause I don't look like these
(22:42):
perfect things on social media,that I feel like I'm not good
enough.
And maybe that's partly why I'mstill dying my hair and I'm
still wearing makeup.
I love makeup.
That's a whole other topic onits own.
But I do think it's a struggleand I don't know how we as a
(23:02):
society get past that.
And I do think, have you seenthe thing Pamela Anderson,
Pamela Lee, whatever you want tocall her.
She and some others have beendoing that thing where this is
me, this is without my hair,this is without my makeup on,
this is just what I look like.
Have you seen those things goingaround?
Alexis (23:18):
I haven't.
I probably should because thatwould probably make me feel
better because I honestly hatewearing anything but mascara.
I just want to walk out the doorand not feel like I have to, I
always just feel like, I have somuch caked on my face if I do
more than that.
So I don't love it.
So I don't know.
Can you get yourself some
Kristen (23:38):
Mary Kay CC cream?
I got a girl if you need it, butI've got it down to, I want to
say it's a five minute face, buta little CC cream, a little
bronzer, eye shadow, mascara, aquick one through your eyebrows.
And lip color of your choice.
Bam.
Done.
Maybe that's,
Alexis (23:55):
maybe I'll have to, yes,
we'll do that.
But the other thing is, I alsodon't leave every day.
Keep that in mind.
I work from home and Ihomeschool my kids.
It's really silly for me to buymakeup to use one day a month
and then like your mascara, youopen it and you know you need to
clean it.
Toss it in two or three months.
So it's it rarely gets used andthat sounds silly, but that's my
(24:16):
life.
Kristen (24:18):
I don't think that's
silly at all.
I think you've got what worksfor you.
And I think that, and then maybeyou do the gray hair then.
And maybe you're like, you knowwhat?
Lots of people aren't seeing meanyway, so let me do it.
Sometimes I feel bad.
Alexis (24:31):
Like I should actually
like dress up.
I tell myself that maybe if Iput jeans on and dressed up
every day, I would feel better,but the reality is I spend so
much time in the kitchen cookingand on the floor, like with kids
and stuff like that.
What's the point?
What's the point?
Kristen (24:44):
I don't know, but I
love how you said I should put
jeans on and dress up.
The fact that those two, like inmy mind, wearing jeans is one
style and dressing up as adifferent one.
So it's funny for me that you'relike, I should put jeans on and
dress up.
I'm like, Oh yeah that's anoption.
When
Alexis (25:01):
you wear like sweats or
joggers every day, or, okay, in
the summer, I love summerdresses.
So I actually do wear dressesmost of the summer because it's
cooler.
And I just love I have a couplethat I just love them.
So in the summer, I actually dowear dresses a lot.
Kristen (25:18):
Okay.
So now I want to talk about thisdress thing.
Even in the garden.
I love that.
I love that.
So let's talk about dresses fora minute, Alexis.
This we've come so, so manytopics we've hit here.
Okay.
I know.
I want to talk about dresses fora minute because you and I were
raised similarly, I believe.
I was in Christian school mywhole life.
(25:38):
Where I always had to wear askirt to class had to be below
my knees like I always had to bedresses and skirts was yours the
same way or
Alexis (25:47):
I did not start going to
a Christian school until sixth
grade Okay, so I went frompublic school to happening to
wear a dress or a skirt everyday And that was a bit of a
culture shock.
Let's just put it that way.
Okay.
Kristen (26:00):
So we had to do that.
And then the college Lexis and Iwent to together, it was a
similar dress code skirts anddresses for class.
You could wear pants out orwhatever.
So I had to wear skirts anddresses.
Except for when you went
Alexis (26:11):
to eat, then you had to
put a dress on, which was so
stupid.
Oh, to go to the
Kristen (26:16):
cafeteria.
Alexis (26:17):
I forgot about
Kristen (26:18):
that.
I know.
Alexis (26:22):
Did we have to on
weekends too?
Yes, we had to get up and put a,we could wear a jean skirt only
on, like on Saturday.
Oh, it was I was so annoyed.
So annoyed.
How can I remember
Kristen (26:34):
ever eating on a
Saturday?
I'm sure, I wasn't getting upfor breakfast and I feel like I
was always out on Saturdays.
I don't remember.
Remember eating on Saturdays,
Alexis (26:41):
you probably didn't but
Jesse and I did.
You
Kristen (26:44):
know, anyway, I'm
getting so sidetracked, but like
my whole life had to wear skirtsand dresses.
And I, when I got to my adultlife, it was like, I'm not doing
this anymore.
I can wear what I want.
Here I am now, 40 ish, 21 and ahalf, and I love wearing skirts
and dresses.
I have started wearing skirtsand dresses to work again now,
(27:06):
and I think it's so funnybecause Work recently published
a dress code last year, which Ifought against.
Not fought in a bad way, theyasked for comments, I provided
comments, and it bothered me,and this is what I told people,
that the reason it bothered meis because my whole life I was
restricted on what I could andcouldn't wear.
And I'm like, I'm an adult now.
I shouldn't be told what I canand can't wear.
(27:26):
And it wasn't even a superrestrictive dress code.
It was more like the intent ofit.
But now it's like.
To look back I'm like, but Ilove wearing skirts and dresses.
So like you said in the summerThat's almost completely what I
meant.
I have so many maxi dresses andmaxi skirts all summer It's
dresses on because it's alsocooler than wearing pants and
more comfortable than shortssometimes And even at work like
(27:48):
anytime it's nice.
I'm like, that's it I'm wearinga skirt or days that I shave my
legs I wear a skirt or dress toobecause I've done the work and I
feel like it warrants that mylegs should be shown
Alexis (28:00):
Yeah, no I get it And
that's the funny part of it
because I don't know.
I sew a lot of my clothes here.
I sound so ridiculous.
You're adorable.
I used to sew I know.
But so I do sew and I'm, that'smy favorite thing is to make
dresses because And I alwayswear, they're knits.
So I love to just make quick,simple dress.
(28:21):
And I don't know, they're, it'snice to.
Wear a dress in the summer atleast for here.
It just gets so hot that it'syep I'd rather just wear a dress
than try to wear shorts or jeansBut
Kristen (28:33):
and the humidity too,
so I still have three or four of
the dresses you made and Icontinue to get compliments On
them and it's so fun.
I wore one a couple months agoand a friend of mine She's oh,
is that a so and I don't evenknow what like brand, style,
whatever, designer.
She said a design.
Is that so and so dress?
I'm like, no, it's actually anAlexis dress.
And she was like, oh, I'm notfamiliar with her.
(28:54):
I'm like, yeah, it's very elite.
Alexis (28:56):
That's hilarious.
I, I forgot that I used to sendyou all my stuff because I was
sewing for work so much that Ihad too many and I would just
make stuff and send it to you.
I forgot about that.
Kristen (29:06):
And they're perfect
because like you said, they're
very lightweight.
They're very like forgiving ofthe parts of my body that I
don't love that they cover up.
They're just amazing.
Yeah, I'd take a dress again ifyou have dresses that you made
that you don't want anymore.
Alexis (29:24):
You know what?
I probably do, so it doesn'tmatter.
My goal this year is to sew morebecause I haven't been sewing
very much really.
Yeah, I'll send you mymeasurements.
You should, obviously.
No, I'm not even joking.
You shouldn't.
I will have to make you somesoap.
Yeah, that's hilarious.
Oh my word, why did I forgetthat?
(29:44):
It's like you forgetting havingto wear a skirt to Cathcart, I
know, like
Kristen (29:48):
I have zero
recollection of that.
I know we did on Sundays,because Sunday was also Chicken
Finger Day.
Like after church, we do.
And she had to
Alexis (29:54):
wear nylons that day.
Oh, that was good.
In the
Kristen (30:00):
Florida humidity and
heat.
Yeah, I like to think that gaveus some kind of value or taught
us some lesson, but no, I don'tthink it did.
Okay.
If you say so.
Alexis (30:12):
Maybe.
You at least.
Okay.
So I think their reasoningalways was when you get into a.
Business place you need to learnknow how to dress properly and
you know how to dress properlyfor work now So there you go.
That's true And I can
Kristen (30:25):
probably tell you the
times on one hand that I have
actually worn pantyhose now i'llwear tights I will wear cute and
stylish tights, especially inthe fall and winter I will not
wear pantyhose.
I don't know why it's differentto me.
But like tights are like Thickerand more comfortable and nylons.
Yeah.
And I think you're right.
I thought the same thing withlike how we had to dress, not
(30:46):
wear jeans.
We had to wear like khakis orwhatever, nice pants when we go
out off campus too.
And I've actually thought aboutthat.
I'm like, it's probably becausethey were trying to teach us
like business casual withoutsaying it was business casual.
But.
Which is
Alexis (31:01):
funny because business
casual is so different even from
now than what it used to be.
Kristen (31:06):
Oh, yeah Everything's
changed.
You can wear to your point jeansare a dress up now also, so
Alexis (31:13):
They are When I go to
church I'm wearing jeans They're
my nice jeans.
They're not like holy jankyjeans.
Like the, I don't know, there'sa difference.
Like I have t shirt kind ofjeans and then you have like
nice sweater or blouse jeans.
You know what I mean?
Yes,
Kristen (31:30):
totally.
Totally.
And Jesus would love you even ifyou were in janky jeans.
So don't worry about it.
That's true.
That's very true.
Alexis, we have been all around.
We've talked about hair andmakeup and cosmetic stuff.
and skin products and clothing.
We've just, we've been on anadventure today.
Alexis (31:50):
It's been a lot.
I don't know that we weren'treally planning on that when we
started, but I like it.
Kristen (31:55):
No, that's why I said,
I'm like, we're just going to
see where it goes.
And I am pretty happy with whereit went.
So any final thoughts as weclose this episode?
Alexis (32:10):
Just be comfortable in
who you are and don't feel like
you have to spend lots of moneyto change and look good for
society.
Whoa.
Kristen (32:21):
Yeah.
I know.
That's so hard though.
It's hard.
But we're gonna work on it.
This is something we're gonnafocus on.
We are gonna focus on beinggrateful and thankful for the
bodies that we have, and foraging gracefully, and for being
comfortable in our own skin, andnot caring what other people
(32:44):
think, and not feeling like wehave to filter ourselves for
society.
Alexis (32:49):
Yeah, you can take care
of your body, but you don't, you
shouldn't have to filter it tomake it look different because
the reality is somebody elseprobably looks just like you and
they may have an insecurity.
So if you just show who you are,maybe that helps them too.
Yeah.
Kristen (33:02):
And after all, it's
just hair.
It's true.
All right.
Thanks, Alexis.
We'll talk later.
All right.
Bye.